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Brewsers #160- Roxy and Rachel with Beer Babes Family

Today on Brewsers, we speak to Roxy and Rachel with Beer Babes Family. We talk about how they started with a study of Egyptian Art, collaborating with breweries, and their future. Follow us on instagram and twitter at Brewserspod. Like, share, review, enjoy and cheers. Sign up for our newsletter! #brewsers #brewserspod #Enjoylife #DrinkLocal #Cheers

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Duration:: 40m
Broadcast on:: 25 Jun 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

I'm your host, Roy Dijon and today we speak to Roxy and Rachel with Beer Babes Family. We talk all about how they started with a study of Egyptian art collaborating with breweries and their future. This is such a fun interview and they are doing so many great things when it does come to what their foundation is all about and that's all about people. So I love their story and we're going to get right to it. But first, make sure to sign up for our newsletter. It comes out twice a week. You get even more information about our guests. You get fun facts and you get fun facts happening with your favorite podcast all about beer, coffee, booze and brews. Also without further ado, here is Roxy and Rachel with Beer Babes Family. I would like to welcome to show Roxy and Rachel with Beer Babes Family. How are y'all doing tonight? Good. How great. Doing well. So for those listening, kind of paint us a word picture of what's going on around you. I mean, I can see you right now, but people who are listening can't see you. What's happening around you and I guess where do y'all drinking? Well, we're drinking KVR. Ah, nice. Keep in the classy. Because that's kind of the crew that we roll with. That's our go to here that we have a 30 pack of in the fridge at all times. I mean, it's cheap. It's good. It's sessionable. If you're having a drinking game, then that's probably the best one you could have. And DVR. I'm a big fan. I don't drink it usually, but we were like many breweries before us all for the last beer. Perfect. That's what they need to have the tagline for good end of the night beer. Yes, and good all day drinking beer. Now let's go all the way back in time. What is y'all's earliest memory of beer? I start drinking craft beer back in 1998. We have a craft beer really famous in Montreal called Viniburu. They do Belgium style beer. And I actually, this is one of the fewer people who start directly with craft beer. I never drank regular beer. So this is how I discover craft beer and beer in general with them. And I've been drinking craft beer and beer since 1998 that way. Yeah. I barely drink those kind of things because I'm used to craft beer. I'm not a snob though. No. He's not a snob at all. No. You're an equal opportunist. Yes. Yeah. That's relaxing. My earliest memory of beer. So I grew up in Milwaukee. Mm. Milla, okay. Yes. The beer capital of the USA. And my grandfather, my maternal grandfather in the basement, he had built a kegerator out of an old refrigerator. Nice. And he always had a half barrel of beer in there. And I learned how to pour beer when I was like a toddler. I'm not shitting you. That's real. Like he'd be like, Rachel, I'm out of beer. Here's my glass. Go fill me up. And so I learned how to pour beer when I was very, very young. And that's kind of the environment I grew up in, which was blue collar working class folks in Milwaukee. And beer was the drink that people rewarded themselves with at the end of the day. And I didn't get into craft beer, not until the 2010s-ish when I was in graduate school in Memphis, Tennessee, and that's kind of where I started my craft beer journey. Well, yeah, that leads me right to my next question. What was your gateway craft beer that you're like, oh, I can actually get into this. You go first. I didn't hear your gateway craft beer. Like your first one that was like your aha moment. It was probably, I want to say, like it's a really, it's a triple Belgium beer. It's a really beautiful beer style. I still drink it pretty often. By Yibu. By Yibu. Yeah, by Yibu. Fish and Maftela. So I'm a huge South fan. So, like, I've been starting to drink those beer like more than 20 years ago. So, and I keep buying them all the time. And because they're big, the beer is cheaper than other craft beer because they're huge. So for me, it's a good win-win. The beer I drink you guys don't know about it. Well, what is it? But it is French Canadian beer, so we find it in the space. That's why, even if I say names, they won't ring a bell to anybody. Well, I mean, I would hope somebody in French, Canadian area of province would be listening to this. So, yeah, I guess I'm sure. I don't know. I think probably my gateway craft beer was pyramid, apricot wheat. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I drink that a lot at a place called Flying Saucer in Memphis, Tennessee, where, yeah, we'd go and we would do trivia in that place because they had so many different taps. That's kind of where I expanded my palette. But in my brain, pyramid apricot wheat is there, and you can't get that beer anymore. It is. It's funny because the beer I drink the most in my 20s was an apricot wheat beer. I mean, it's a good gateway, for sure. Not the same as you, but it was also an apricot wheat beer. Wheat beers are a great start. Always learning something about your friends there. That's fantastic. And you're still learning stuff about one another, and that's fantastic. Did you get a plate at the Flying Saucer? I did not know that. Same. I stopped logging them at a certain point. So I feel like I should have one, but I don't, I don't have proof that I had over 200. Now beer babes, in a sense, started with Rachel, your study of the Egyptian art in the world behind it. For those that don't know, what is the beer babes family? So the beer babes family. So we started, so Roxy and I met via Instagram in 2020, so during COVID. And I was haphazardly drunk scrolling one night as one tends to do. As we all do. And I ran across her profile and she was posting about beer, history and the city of Montreal. So I love beer. I love history. And Montreal is one of my most favorite cities in the world that I've been to thus far. And so I sent her a message. I was like, hey, I really love your content. Let's be friends. And she's like, fuck yeah, let's be friends. So we started talking. And then she invited me to join an interaction group on Instagram. And after talking, we decided to start one that was all women that were posting about beer. So a woman only interaction group. And we playfully decided to call it the beer babes. And we started using the hashtag beer babes family. And so these 20 women that were in this group. They would use that hashtag. And eventually that kind of took off and people were like, what is the beer babes family. How do we participate? And we're like, well, it's not anything. We're just when we're talking about beer, like that's it, like it's nothing really. And it kind of took off from there. So that's our humble beginnings and in 2021, people were starting to ask for merge. So we decided to do a shirt and raise money out of it that we're giving to charity. And at the same time, a brewery in Arizona reached out to us to do a collab beer with a ping-boo to raise money for them. So we did it. And our first five beer was actually for the ping-boo. And eventually Rachel was like, what do you think if we do it for our own charity? And I was like, okay, let's do it. I'm always like, okay, let's do it anyway. We still grow out of it. Like, if you ask us where we see each other in five years, we're starting to have a picture. But it's probably like the last two years and a half are really like, we're going with the flow and we just go with where our women and the people in the industry bring us. And we are very enthusiastic with our future and what the next year will be really, really, really exciting for us. Yeah, like Roxy said, we are just allowing things to come to us and letting those collaborations happen as they present themselves to us. It's a very organic thing right now. Yeah. I mean, as things should be, you're not forcing anything, you're allowing things, like you said, you're going with the flow and allowing things to come to you. And I mean, it's amazing that a brewery in Arizona of all places was reached out to y'all and was like, hey, do you want to do a collaboration? And you're like, duh, why would we not want to do that? Well, during the pandemic, brewery, we're reaching out to a lot of influencer. It was really popular. I know in Quebec, it was really popular to do beers with influencer. So I feel that this is how it starts. But we also are really proud to go with the flow because we don't want to grow too fast. It's only me and Rachel. We now have a couple of women who start to help, like Shayna, but it's really going slow. We don't want to grow too fast and lose, I don't want to see control, but if we grow too fast, it could go with, and we don't want that. Well, and we both have day jobs, you know, this is our passion project. This is not our full-time job. Everybody that helps us, we're all volunteers, nobody gets paid. It's just a work of passion at this point. I know that game. Yeah. Yeah. Now, considering, so I've heard of this happening in the pro wrestling world as well, there's this group called Heels, which is a double entendre because Heels is bad guys in wrestling talk, but Heels obviously also refers to the shoes. So there are obviously a large bit of women that love pro wrestling, but obviously it's a male dominated thing. Same thing with the beer world. We all go to breweries and we see, yeah, there's women there, but were they there on their own account? Or is it because they were there with friends or their boyfriends, husbands, whatever? Now, when it came to actually starting, you know, obviously the group for women that do love beer, how did it, was it kind of a rush or was it kind of like a trickling effect or kind of how did all that process really work? And was there also stupid men that describe them or disguise themselves as women to try to get into a group? Okay, I was wondering that because we choose the women that we were already exchanging with. Nice. Naturally, and every, I feel that the need was there and when we reached out to women to work with us and join our group, they were all really open about it. At first, it was an engagement group. So for sure, it was more about people who were looking for likes and more follower, the women on profit, the women who now support us are more there for the cause. And those women like pays those trip travel with us are there to support us. They really believe in what we're doing. And it's really organic. That's awesome. But nothing is for us or nothing. We never like in our mentality, if someone's there, it's because they want to be there as well. Right. We're family. That's why there's the word family in the living family. I love that a lot because again, it should be a family. It should be, you know, we're here for everybody as well. Well, beer has this wonderful influence on community and bringing people together. I mean, historically, if you look at pubs and how they came to be, you know, public houses, places where at the end of the day, when, you know, you had a long, hard, arduous day at work, you would gather with your local community members at whatever institution had, you know, AIL at that time, and everyone came together and we shared this beverage and you talked about things and you worked out community issues and family issues and things like that. And so that is something that we really hark back to. And it's really crucial to our mission and what we're doing is creating this community and cultivating this community for not only women. But for anybody who understands and sees what we're doing and supports us because yeah, we've got tons of women that travel for us, but we have just as many men that are, you know, interested in what we're doing and supporting us and traveling and seeing it all through. So, beers, yeah, it's that glue that holds us all together historically and contemporarily. Yeah. And to be honest, so many people take social media have too serious. Very. There should be. There should be. Yeah. Some people take it way too much serious, yes, the cause beyond what we're doing is serious. Right. But this is something we're having fun with, right? People forget about it so. Yeah. You know, it's true. I mean, I know a lot of, I mean, the untapped world can be pre-toxic and don't even get me started. I mean, so I've talked to so many breweries now that like, you know, some of them really lean into the bad reviews. Some of them, you know, will lean into too much. I think when it comes to what people are thinking and rating and all the other stuff. And it's like, they've never made beer their entire life. They're just, you know, beer fans that come out and like, oh, I don't like this. It was like, I give it two stars. Why? Why didn't you like what did you like? Like, you know, where's the constructive criticism and all of it? And I imagine that there is so much more of that when it comes to like, you know, helping people as well. Because like you said, like the pubs in the breweries have always historically been the gathering point for communities in general. And I still think that they are still the gathering point for communities, then coffee shops like that's where people come together. Whether you drink or not. So, you know, that's up to you. Now we're having more options when it comes to like the non alcoholic stuff is doing fantastic right now. And then, you know, THC cellsters are starting to become more of a big thing if that's what your thing is. And so like, there's always going to be something for you at a brewery, whether you drink or not. But it's like you said, it's that glue. It's like that's what brings people together. And that's what like I know down here, we had Beto O'Rourke hit so many different breweries on his, you know, political race or whatever he was doing. And so that's, you know, that's a place for people to come together. Now you talked about your collaborations. How many of y'all done me now? We're going to release our 27 collaboration tomorrow. Insane. Congratulations. That is huge. Yeah, it's crazy. That's fucking crazy. What else is like most brewery work with us love it so much that it worked with us every year. So we have in 2024 work with us for the third time. That's awesome. We are pretty late. We'd have to work with 26 different brewery, but we have different releases. Now, Rachel, I know you're a sister-owned, Roxie, are you, and I also worked for a craft career at Ferburi in Montreal. See, so you both obviously know what you're doing. Is there, I mean, this is going to be hard because they're kind of like your babies is I want each of you to answer your top three kind of favorite beers that y'all have made or whether it be the beers themselves or just, I guess, the experience really. I know that the beer that was really the best on top was also my favorite. But ironically, we released a beer almost a year ago in Orlando with Broken String. It was an apple sour, it was really good. I personally really enjoy the beer I brew with La Maras, which was a stout in 2022. And I know you liked it and I like it too, the grieze that we did with granite. So good. In June last year, at Granite Mayor, we were there actually one, our first grand in December 2023, and this beer was so good. She's brewing the same one this year, but it was so good. You're going to have people to be able to try it on tap. But we boost almost every style so far. We had like barley wine, we had IPAs, we had styles, porter, sizzles. It says we had like, I think the only thing we haven't really had is like a regular lager. That's the hardest one to do. And it takes the most time now. And you can't hide anything. We have this cocktail. So like we touch pretty much every style, almost, I want to say. We've touched a lot of styles, yeah, for sure. And when we are working with a brewery, we always try to encourage them to showcase what they want to show off to the world, because when they're working with us, they're getting international exposure in perhaps a way that they wouldn't get normally. And so it's like, show off what you want to show off or do something crazy experimental, whatever you want to present to the world in a way that you might not have been able to do before, do it. And so we've fortunately had, yeah, beer all over the map. Yeah. And we bring more and more exposure to those brewery because we are growing in the business. I'm kind of not going to look really popular right now. And when it very worked with us, they're very usually get exposure across the entire continent. So it's important that the brewery is proud of what they're putting out as well. As they should, yeah, I mean, you guys are, like you said, you're helping spotlight other breweries and you're helping build what you guys are doing as well. And it's obviously, you know, it works best for everybody. Yeah, we want the relationship to be very reciprocal. And because Roxy and I both work in the industry, you know, it's really important for us to ensure these people that are supporting us that we are going to support them back. So we want them to make money, we want to ensure them that this collaboration is going to give them the exposure that they deserve, like it's, it's about them helping us as much as we are helping them and vice versa. And that relationship for us is really, really crucial because sometimes when beers do charity collaborations, they don't make any money or they lose money. And breweries can't afford to lose money. On social media, I know breweries sometimes aren't really active on social media. So they won't share or repose or they won't be active with us. Those are the beer that usually raise the less money because of that. Social media has an impact that a lot of people don't understand. And we all, we drink to bring awareness to this. If you work in partnership with us, you will gain out of it. It's still something we have to teach some time to some brewery. Most of them get it, but I guess we see that the more the more they work with us, the more the beer sounds faster, the more people are. Visit the brewery, like the Vancouver brewery work in January. People travel to February after the really weeks after the release to try to get the beer. And the beer was sold out in three weeks, it was really fine. That's fast. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, congratulations again. That's huge. Like you guys are helping, like you said, build these breweries up to where you're having collaboration beers sell out in less than a month. Like that's almost unheard of now. Well, I mean, that's what we that's our goal, like we want everybody to benefit from working with us. Like, yeah, as we see how important, I mean, we know how important that is. Yes, that's why we like, I take a lot of time to travel to those release racial chem as much as she can. It's not the beer babes way for this travel, it's us because we realize that when we're there, people have tendency to show up to travel to show their support because, hey, the two co-founder are there. So it means it's a big thing. So we'll go to. So we're trying to be there as much as we can. So far, I've been able to go everywhere. She was not able to go. So there's always one of us, and we're going to try to do it as long as we can. Eventually, we'll need help out of it, but we want to grow. We did 12 beer last year. This year, we're doing 26 release Monday. We want to do at least 50 next year. I would love to do 65. Yep. Wow. It's a lot of work for two women who work full-time other places and travel to all those releases. Yeah. Man. Well, so you had brought up the fact that we all kind of know that some of these breweries are not the best when it comes to their social media, whether it be just because they don't understand how social media works or they haven't hired somebody that is on that, not cutting edge, but that fully understands how the algorithms work, how often you need to post, the fun stuff you do need to post. What kind of tips would you all give some, either breweries or, I guess, people in the industry that would really kind of need help when it comes to their social media? We can force them. We always encourage them to, I had them as a collaborator all the time when we post stuff. I'm the one behind the social media, she's doing a lot of other things. Roxy is the social media queen. I interact as much as I can with them. I encourage them to like share everything with us, but it's not always working the way we want. We can force them, but I feel that the one that I understand it, realize it and beneficial with them. So this is what we're trying to do, but at the end of the day, we cannot force anybody to do anything. Right. But like if every, I have a question for us and they're not sure what they should do, they can always reach out to us, but doors always open. Like we would be happy to help her eat the grow, but we could be higher for that. I'm like, I'm always there if anybody needs help at the end of the day, but like we just give them tips, but we don't force anybody to do anything for us. That's good. Yeah. I mean, I know there's, again, there's so many breweries out there that need the help when it comes to what to do and what not to do with social media or just in general just post more, like even do some behind the scenes, pictures, videos, whatever. Like, you know, just help bring people to your brewery and let them know what's going on. What do we do usually when they do the birthday? We try to have at least one of the people who is aware of what we're doing, like one of our ambassador, usually the person because we cannot have those collab without the local people. So the people who help us get the beer are usually there on brew day. That's a nice opportunity for those people also to find out how to brew beers. We will usually ask them to take pictures and videos. The brewery that are really active with us will also send us material when they can the beer, if they can it, because it's not an obligation anymore. And on brew day, when we're there, we take a lot of materials as when we post about it for months after. But most of the brewery understand at least the part where we need material after that when we do with it, it's in our control. But we post everything on our social media. That's good. Yeah, I'm glad you're helping them as well because they need as much help as they can get. And you know, they're helping you as well. So what have you guys do you think? What have you learned the most from brew one to brew now 2627? To make it as easy as possible for the brewery. We are sometimes too organized for them because we do it a lot in advance a little brewery. We were actually booking 2025 at this moment and a lot of brewery are telling us, oh, it's too far in advance for us because you have too opposite in brewing. Some brewery know a year in advance when they're going to brew and some only know like four weeks in advance when they're going to brew. So we learn to follow their face. On our side now we have contracts we send to them. We have files for the labels like we got organized on our hand because the more release we do the more stuff we need to remember, but I think I personally learned to be more patient and more understandable of everybody's schedule and like, a lot of last minute things that come up and stuff like this. So on my end, this is what I learned just being flexible. Yeah, the flexibility is really important for us. Yeah. Yeah. Now, being as you are obviously, you know, an American and Canadian organization, even though it is all North America, they're obviously two different countries and flying and traveling internationally. And I imagine transporting any liquid when it comes to internationally can be a little bit of an issue. What have been some, I guess, stories really or adventures you had to go through when it does come to dealing with Canada and America and then, you know, just do the in betweens. I usually I'm the one who crossing the border. So far Rachel's coming to the first time in Canada for the beer babes next month. So far, you know, with the laws with Canada, I'm allowed to bring an amount of beer in my checking bags. I never go over it. It's for my personal views and sometimes like for my sister, my mom and like some people around me, but we didn't have any stories so far regarding if the girls want to share beers and traits, beer and ship beers to other people, it doesn't go through us. Right. I'm really aware of it. And it's really important because we don't have a beer permit or anything, so we're not allowed to do any of those things anyway. Yeah. Yeah. They don't ship or transfer any beer. Yeah. So we don't have any weird story about it. Yeah, you're not trying to send stuff over. And I mean, even in the states working for brewery, I know that shipping beer, I mean, every state has different liquor laws. And so you literally can't do things like that unless you work with a distributor and so we don't work with a distributor, obviously. The brewery is in charge of distributing beer. Sure. Yeah. So if we work with a brewery that has a distribution, you know, layout that crosses state lines, or international borders, that's great. But we as a business and as a nonprofit have nothing to do with that sort of stuff. Yeah. That is all brewery-centric, depending on what their capabilities are. Gotcha. Yeah. I was just trying to... I think with more and more brewery, anyway, that don't even count the beer anymore. Right. And for us, it's less trouble. It's easier. People have to come to try it. So we're trying to encourage the women and the men in our community to travel to those releases. Yeah. The beer is not canned. So kind of realizing I like it more, and it's less work for everybody anyway. Hmm. Makes sense. Now, you kind of already mentioned what you guys are looking forward to. Obviously, you're starting to play in 2025. What does, you know, from 2025 to 2030 look like for y'all? We don't know yet. What would you like for the next five years? One year at a time, my friend, one year at a time. Hello. I know we would love to have a beer in every States and province. Yeah. Eventually. I bought a map on my kitchen wall where I put stickers in every States and province where we had beers. There you go. So I think one of our personal goal will be to fill up this map. Yeah. I love it. We are starting to have worries and reach out to us instead of us reaching out to them. And it's, it's a really good feeling. So we hope that eventually the people in this community would talk about us with their local worry and they would just reach out to us more and more. I will love to be overwhelmed by email and request to work with us. That's one that they know I'm looking for. Yeah. One day at a time, I think it'll happen eventually, obviously, you know, 27 brew is insane. So that's within five years. So the next five years, you're going to be more than double that. It's in three years, actually. I'll let you guys start in 2021. So yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah. We've been sold in April 2022. Yeah, we became legitimate nonprofit in the United States in April of 2022 and in Canada in December of 2022. So then, yeah, five years you guys are going to grow even more so is going to be even crazier. I mean, if things keep going how they are right now, it's just naturally going to come to that. Yeah. So we both enjoyed the quality of the people that we met on the road and that helped us. We discover amazing human being every, every month. This is another thing that we hope that's going to continue to grow the community is as important for us as a collaboration and the nonprofit sides. Yeah. I think this is what brings us apart to like the pink booth. Our goal is not the same thing. Right. They do more like educational sides. We do business. It was really important for us to be different from them, but also we are also community. We are one entity, not like chapters and the people join us or we know their names. We know who they are. We know their lives. So it's not just like an end all of Instagram, it's a real person behind it and it's, it's really, really important for me and Rachel. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Now you're talking about meeting so many great people along the way and obviously you've had so many bruise that you've collaborated with. This might be a little difficult. I'm not trying to get you any trouble. What are your top five favorite breweries that you guys have come across, whether you brewed with them or not? I think Greenwood and Phoenix is a really important brewery for us. We're going to work with them for the third time this year. They are female owned, female brew. That's awesome. The brewery we're going to release a beer tomorrow, yeast brew is also really respected in Florida. They've been great since the, since day one. It's a couple who own it. They are amazing. I think Granite in Toronto, like Mary won the grand for a reason. She's been a huge part of her family. Again, it's not to put apart any other people that I'm not making. No, not at all. My friend at the Presbyterian Montreal, it's not Montreal. It's in Quebec. We're going to work with them for the first, the third time this year, the only beer in Quebec this year. They worked with us before we were an un-profit, they still continue. Obviously, bone owls where Rachel work has been a huge support since day one as well. They've been incredible. So again, if I didn't mention the brewery, it's not because we don't care. But I feel that those are the core of the people we need to build around and the quality of amazing human being we're looking for. Main street was also. Yeah. Main street in Vancouver, like the beer we told you, sold out every week. J.C., run their social media, create content for us. I was pulling stuff out, but it was also creating content. There was something almost every day going out and it works because the beer sold out in three weeks. So it's proved that if you put the work out, it's working. Eight times. And non-such is putting in a lot of work. So we have a release in the end of April with non-such in Winnipeg. And they're putting together a two day fundraising event for us, which includes the release, but also like informal panel discussion about women and beer, a beer pairing dinner. So yeah, like people are showing up and really putting thought and heart and soul into these events. There's more than just the release, like if I could continue so far, like we had a release last weekend in Toronto, and this brewery is going to work with a restaurant in Lancaster, which is like four hours from them, it's between Montreal and Toronto. And another influencer called Abba Mackerel, who was actually doing her shirt and new shirts for us, will like you get a dinner, a pairing beer and food dinner with ticket sold and money will go back to us. So we are having more and more people who work with those brewery as well and those brewery are pulling themselves out to try to find new ways to raise money for us, which is amazing for us. Yep. It's all about the people. It's the people. Like that's the end of the story. Some brewery will brew the beer, don't put anything on social media, it takes seven months to be sold out and they're disappointed by the experience, but others put a lot of energy with us, they work with us and the beer is, they, they, it created an amazing community. This is what we need. Yeah. Mm hmm. I love that so much. Now, I have a segment on the show I call it the Five Counts, just five random questions. Y'all answer just as quick as possible. Okay. If you were on America or Canada has talent, what would your talent be? I'm getting pretty good at checking beer, but I don't think it's. You say that, but I, that's, I mean, if you can, if you can, it's way better than I am. People don't know this about me, but I play a lot of music instrument. I'm pretty good at it. That's probably what I will do. Oh my God, I don't know. You draw. You're, you're, you're having this fun and you think good pictures to get your amazing photograph. I like to take photographs. I don't know. That's my talent. It, it kind of is, but yeah, it's, how are you going to show it off like on a show? Yeah, I know that when it has to be on a stage. Yeah. She's training to be a, I could be only, I was going to say I can lift weights. I'll do my Olympic weight lifting. I'll snatch and clean jerk. So close. Powerlifting. Nice. Uh, if, well, this will go as great in the next one. If you were a pro wrestler or MMA fighter, what would your name be? Beerkowski. Yeah. Killer Roxy. What are you nerding out on right now? I'm, I'm watching a lot of video about how to grow on social media, how to get a better, because our business is on social media, so like how to get more views. I don't understand it's like a second, but now I'm pretty good on Instagram and I, we would love to grow our YouTube channel as well. So like there's always a way to, so I'm, I'm, I'm pretty nerd about it right now. This is what I do like every time I'm on my cell phone. That's good. I don't know. I've been really, I've been reading a lot lately and not reading anything in particular, but I really started just reading period again books, I guess, in any capacity. I love it. All right. So we have less than a minute and I have two more questions, but I want to make sure people get to your social media. What is your social media and website that so people can follow you guys and find out more about our easy to find on the beer babes family.com and beer babes family on social media, if you look at the bio, both of our personal social media links are there too. But the main focus should be the beer babes that Rachel and Roxie are on my end. Okay. Let's see if it catches it. Real fast. Who are what inspires you who inspire me? So many women inspire me, Rachel inspire me every day. My mom, I won't say that, thank you so much to the beer babe family again, Roxie and Rachel for coming on the show. Guys definitely go check them out and make sure you are helping out everybody that you can and they are definitely on that great path to doing so. So while you're doing that, make sure to follow us on our social medias. It is bruiserspah that is B-R-E-W-S-C-R-S-P-O-D on the Instagram of the threads and the Twitter. If you want to send us an email, it is bruiserspahd@gmail.com. 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