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Ask the Sheriff - Midday Mobile - Tuesday 7-16-24
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So just another way to get in touch with us here at this show and throughout the week on FMTalk1065. All right, and those numbers are important too, because it is, you know, it's very interesting to how people get down that schedule. Last week, at this time, people said, "Where's the sheriff shot? It's the second Tuesday of the month, and where's the sheriff?" And I said, "Hold on, y'all. I'm glad y'all caught that. We pay attention, but sometimes we call it an audible, and this month is one of them." And today, the third Tuesday is when we talk to Mobile County Sheriff Paul Burch. Good to see you. Good to see you. Yes, there's a few times we move things around, but they were on the text line going, "Where's the sheriff?" It's second Tuesday. We had the Alabama Sheriff's Conference last week, so I had to attend there. And it happens a few times of the year. I want to, a couple of things as we get started here. First of all, so the story today, I heard the update from WKRG about the ceremony today for Canine, the Canine Malice, so it goes, "Would y'all call them fur missiles?" Yep. They're affectionately referred to as fur missiles. Now, what is the story? How did he die? How did Malice die? He was tracking a felony suspect for another agency who asked for assistance and collapsed during that track about a mile into the track, so he was a young dog, so we don't believe it was heat or anything like that. We don't really know what caused the death, but he was actively engaged in the tracking of a felony suspect. I think about from just the bond that people get with dogs, first of all, you got that bond, and I don't want to look past that, but I also do want to look into the importance of that loss as a loss of training. I mean, before a dog becomes part of Canine, for Mobile County Sheriff's Office, give me an idea how much training that dog has. They've had some extensive training before we picked them up. We buy them out of state, and there was a couple of different locations that we purchased from them from, and they're very, very expensive. And then months, if not, a year of training between that particular handler and that dog goes on continuously, so there's a lot that goes into it. Yeah, so it is a loss. I saw people on Facebook are emotional about the dog die, and people don't like that, but I also look at it and maybe this is a colder side, I'm not trying to be cold, but there's a lot of experience in that dog that you... There is. He was young. He's four years old. We've got two that we're about to retire. Well, I was going to ask you next, when's retirement for dogs? When do they get to retire? About six to eight years in service. Okay. And like I said, we've got two that we're retiring in about two weeks, and we're searching for replacements for them, and we will have replacements in place before they're retired. Do they stay with the handler, or what happens to those dogs? Typically, yes. I know one of your handlers here quite well, and I know that relationship you were talking about, you know, you get the dogs, but then that relationship between the handler and the dog, they're partners. I mean, they get each other. They are. And not just the handler, that canine becomes part of the family, you know. So it affects an entire family, not only, you know, the handler and his, you know, his or her wife or husband and kids, you know, but the sheriff's office family as a whole. I mean, that's, you know, we're, we interact with those special operations units frequently and get to see the dogs in action, which is an amazing thing to see. And so, you know, it's a loss for everybody within the sheriff's office family and the handler and his family. You know, it's interesting as well as much as we'll talk about technology that you all use in law enforcement now more, you know, every day, it's a big part of what y'all do. But then here is the importance of bands old as Fred, you know, I mean, it's, there's all this high tech stuff. And then here we are also talking about the value of a dog. Yeah. Yeah. And again, it's not only the, the cost of the training in, in, you know, the original purchase, you know, the special equipment has to go into the vehicles, you know, where, you know, the handler can hit a button and open the door and then come out. The temperature has to stay controlled, you know, if the canines in the vehicle so that a lot of money goes into the canine program. Now top uses for, for canines for y'all, the top uses for the dogs, like what would you list, you know, tracking suspects, that knows, yes, track tracking and apprehending. Okay. And how, you know, use them to obviously track and find the person, then to grab on, you know, people that, but how often does that keep your deputies? Or if they're in a municipal setting, you know, a police officer, how often does that keep them out of harm's way? I mean, you know, it keeps the deputies, you know, safe when we deploy a canine, but it also keeps the community safe. If we've got a fleeing felon who saves bail, he'd burglarize the house or bail from a vehicle running through a neighborhood, the faster we can apprehend that suspect, the safer the community is. Right. And not saying you don't have some track stars as deputies, but none of them are as fast as a dog. They are not. Do a race, whoever the facet deputy is, all right, y'all, we're gonna do a little sprint here. Yeah. Well, you know, rule of thumb. If you do deploy a canine, stay still. No, and if you're running, you don't get bit. It likes that more. Yeah. It's funny, too. We've talked about this story. Mardi Gras. Once again, with deputies, with weapons on their hip and, you know, lethal, non-lethal, all these things, people like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're trying to move people with Mardi Gras. Y'all get on the horses at Mardi Gras, and it's like, we showed up, we part of the Red Sea, whether you like, why is every movement? Oh, there they are on the horses. That's why, you know, it's funny how with the technology and all these things, horses and dogs are still being used as part of what y'all do in the Sheriff's department. Yeah. And you could apply the same at Metro jail. You know, we do have some uprisings periodically where you're nothing major, but you'll get a group that refuses to go back into the cells or go back into the pod. And we have a special response team of corrections officers that have the Taser shields and that don't seem to affect them when we send the dogs to the jail. That does. They can't get in that cell fast enough. It's just interesting that, you know, the kind of the old idea is still being currently there. You mentioned the jail too. So here in this week about overcrowding in the jail, where are you right now? We're at 1491 this morning. And what's, what's, what's, what's full? 1187. Okay. So do you have the issues at a jail level, at a county level that the state does with, you know, the judge Thompson, I think is the oversight with the overcrowding Alabama prisons. Do you have those same issues at the jail site at this level? We do. Yeah. Overcrowding is always an issue. You know, the jail was, was built, you know, many years ago and I don't think with a lot of, there wasn't a lot of foresight for growth was built and we're pretty much out of real state in the area of the jail, but, but we are going to have to do something to, to ease the overcrowding. So can they come in the way they did for the prison system and require like DOJ or somebody required or what they can and, you know, and I'll say we're probably on the brink of that. Wow. Okay. So what has helped the state has been a little better about picking up their state inmates. Because you talked about that before that they would leave them here. They would come in for to have a hearing or something and leave them or? Yep. And, you know, in another situation is, you know, the, we as sheriffs throughout the state stick together and, you know, when the tornado year or so ago, that tore down the jail up around cell. And so much. Yeah. You know, we've got 20 of their martyrs and capital martyr. Yeah. I mean, there's no, a lot of the counties took different ones, but we still have 20 that they are taking care of Dallas County 20 is what we call them. Okay. That's just something that you have to do to help out the other sheriffs. Their jail is still under construction. And then once that's done, you know, they'll be able to move them back over there. And I think they've, you know, building a better, you know, facility that will accommodate more. Okay. So about building here, does that has, is that something that funding comes through the county commission or how does that process it? Let's say you do get a green light. You're going to do a new jail. It does. The fund is from the county commission, you know, they can do bonds. And I'll share an idea that I have and, um, actually, this is a discussion that Jerry called and I've had several times, what I would really like to see in the, in the future is a minimum security jail, you know, people who are not of any danger, whether they're serving time on tickets, child sports, something like that. And have a trade center attached to that where they can learn a trade. Okay. Uh, where, where hopefully they don't come back to jail and, you know, that would, that would be a really good way to, I think, to help out the community as a whole. So have a, so in the short, have another place where those people that right now are right there off I have taken up space, you know, where I could, you know, be housing just, you know, violent or significant, you know, repeat offenders in the main jail, have a separate facility that's minimum security, that would require less staff and then have a trade school attached to it and, and hopefully, you know, not see them again, and they be out and be productive citizens. Yeah. I mean, as, as you look at jail overcrowding and then prison overcrowding, how much of it has to do with recidivism, if you, these people didn't come back, would we had the same issues? Right. And again, as I, you know, can't stress enough, it would be strictly for non violent offenders. All right. We'll come back. More of your questions coming in right now on the text line at 3430106, your chance to ask the sheriff, our guest, Mobile County Sheriff Paul Birch, right here on Midday Mobile. This is Midday Mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM Talk 1065, twice 1223 FM Talk 1065 Midday Mobile. Ask the sheriff your chance to ask Mobile County Sheriff Paul Birch, questions will get some from the text line and some from the, from the phone lines as well at 3430106. Dan Yankee asking this sheriff said in recent weeks have traveled to Pensacola and New Orleans via I-10. In both cases, we noted multiple state highway patrol and sheriff's department cars from Florida, Mississippi and Louisiana, but not one in the Alabama stretch of I-10, not one. Well, like I said, you know, I don't control, you know, Alia, you know, so as far as where they position themselves. But now I've said before that sheriff's office don't routinely work traffic. We don't have a traffic division. You know, we do have units on the interstate, but they're there for the purpose of interdiction, whether it be for drugs, human trafficking, those kinds of things. So, you know, you may or may not say them because we've got so fair, may not see them and it might take their there. Okay. All right. So if they're, since we don't have the invisibility function that tells me everything I need to know. It's okay. The Sims guys said if a bicycle has the right of way on a road, why don't they require a tag lights and so on? I mean, that's, well, it's not a motorized vehicle. So, you know, I think that's where the tag would come in, but, you know, they certainly, if you're going to ride on the roadway, you know, I think, you know, my opinion, you should have some flashing lights on you and the bicycle as well as a bright colored vest. I've seen so many near misses while, you know, driving around town and, you know, I think a lot of what I have seen is it's been careless on the part of the person riding the bicycle. It's almost like they just dare, you know, people to get, like they'll ride right on the edge rather than, you know, closer to, you know, there's a delicate balance and, but again, you know, I believe the tag issue is probably because it's not a motorized vehicle and that's where, you know, the revenue comes in, although I will say that hadn't stopped some. I think I have a pretty famous picture from last year where I was on Florida getting ready to turn westbound on Spring Hill and in line in front of me was a Yamaha Timber Wolf four-wheeler, nice four-wheeler, but I mean, yeah, traffic. We have seen those too and, you know, no matter how many times you preach it, you know, people will get on there and, you know, I've seen them running to the grocery store or seeing them at gas stations, you know, is what it is. Vince saying here, it's interesting because I was going to say, I was going to talk about this about people getting hit. One of the people that came out to my house out to the farm this weekend to ride was somebody who has been hit, he was hit once in college and then hit as an adult. The hospital, three of them were taken out by somebody just not paying attention. Three bicycles in a row, this older person hit them. This bike has every flashing light you can see on it. It's regularly, you know, I mean, you can't miss it as he's riding, but Vince asked how about the eBikes because I talked about my eBike and all they said, they have, he said that thing has a motor. That would probably be a question for the licensed commission office or, you know, the state. I don't know what, you know, I know, say, for instance, a golf cart to be street legal has to go a certain speed. I don't know if eBikes reach that speed or they get, I know they're maxed out like mine is maxed out at 28 miles an hour because at 28, something changes above there. So every time I have Clint Jamison on or something like that, we're talking about the eBikes. People always ask it. I know I have never hit 28 on mine, but it's max, it's governed at 28. Yeah. And that may be, you know, the, the parameters of it to keep it from being a per se motorized vehicle. Maybe that's it. And I love bike riding. I've got a couple of nice bikes, but the way people text while they're driving today, I ride mine off of the main streets. I mean, just, I'm not willing to risk a lot of times a ride with my daughter to just not willing to risk that because I mean, I, I pass three people on the way here, just oblivious to the traffic ahead of them because they've got their face down on their phones. I usually bump my siren and that gets their attention, but that would do it. Jason says, uh, how would the sheriff say the crackdown on marijuana has gone? Have there been any arrests? Thanks. We, we make frequent arrests, arrests, we, we've focused in some of the, uh, areas here recently where we get complaints and every stop by the airport and airport boulevard. That's some of the convenient stores. And I will say, you know, I had, uh, an occasion run to the store right nearby, uh, where this all originated and did not detect near as much as I had in the past. Okay. So, so I thought, but hopefully we've got our message again. And I'll say it again, if you choose to do that in your home, it's still illegal, but keep it in home. You know, nobody out here wants to be, you know, seeing you riding down the road or sitting in a stoplight and smoking a joint, you know, it's still illegal. But it didn't do it in public. Yeah. I mean, we got a comparison we said in the past is for law enforcement, not to engage because if some, some old boys, you know, at traffic light and got a can of course light in his hand, hanging out the window as he's riding down the road, y'all are going to see that and pull that person over, then we get to a stop light and it smells like, you know, Peter Tosh showed up at the, uh, at the streetlight, you're like, you know, it's just flagrant, I guess. Yeah. And I said, I can't speak for any other agency, but I can tell you if a sheriff's deputy sees that you're going to get stopped. Okay. We'll get more questions if we come back at three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Your chance to ask the sheriff. We'll go kind of share Paul Barge, our guest. This is midday mobile with Sean Sullivan on FM talk one oh six five, right at 1235 FM talk one oh six five and bid day mobile glad to have here on this Tuesday, which by the way, what do they always say programming note or something like that? This show live from the Alabama deep sea fishing rodeo on Friday. Always love to go see the JCs and be on the island and be down there for the liars contest on Thursday and the midday mobile live from the rodeo on Fridays, from noon to two, and then we'll see you throughout the weekend, y'all, y'all going to be busy down there? We will. You know, but it's we have, we don't have the problems down there that there were years and years ago. I just fit take because I remember the ab to kid down there in the eighties and some of the stuff I saw go to the I mean, it was I was wide out of like, this is wow. Yeah. That's kind of calm down and but we, you know, we always support dolphin island when they have an event like that and, you know, it's always fun. It's going to be another big year just talking to those guys that it means growing so much because all of us at fish, but they've got all the music shows and entertainment. People come down there. Grab a fishing rod, yes, and that's kind of, kind of the purpose of the law enforcement presence because there are a lot of people down there just for the entertainment aspect of it, which is great. It's great for dolphin island. It is indeed. So yeah, we'll see y'all down there. Mr. Doug says, why are the new sheriff's vehicles stealth? Isn't it safer to have neon reflectors like in Europe? And I don't know what that means. So can you help me understand what his question is to well, I'm, I don't know if he has seen a couple of the, you know, maybe SWAT vehicles that have the, I guess, more stealth look, you know, where it's not, and the terms escaping me, but you know, it's, you know, blends in. Okay. And that's for a purpose and, but you know, the, the mark, regular marked vehicles have, you know, gray striping, they're clearly marked as sheriff and they have a big gold star on them. So, you know, we did clean up, you know, the look of the vehicles, you know, when, when I took office and, cause I, I just like a nice clean look. And what we found with the two tone paint, when we purchased new vehicles and get that two tone paint as adding another $3,000 to the cost of the vehicle. So now I want to roll black. The vinyl is like 350 bucks to put on there and just, you know, saves the money. There's money, $2,700 a video. Okay. Michael said, how do cops know who has weed in their vape versus nicotine? I smell weed everywhere. Is there a way for them to tell or is it a non-issue now? Well, if it smells like weed, you're going to get an inquiry, you know, or interaction with law enforcement and, you know, based on, you know, we can seize it. And usually people that are doing that are going to have other things too. And then that vape will be sent off to the lab just like we would any other drug and determine, you know, if it's, you know, has THC in it or not. Ben says in Baldwin County, it's illegal to drive a low-speed vehicle on a road with a speed limit greater than 35 miles per hour. It doesn't stop people, but it's illegal. Is that the same for Mobile County? I would be willing to bet that's a state law, again, I'm not versed in all the, you know, traffic type, you know, I guess ordinances or, or, or laws that we just don't typically deal with a lot. And we certainly don't see a lot of bicycle riding out in the county. And so, you know, I would think Baldwin County be some of the, I guess, inner city type places where you'd ride bikes. I want to get back to the text questions, but I have some that I had for you, having you in here and knowing your, you know, decades in law enforcement and the different things you've done looking at the assassination attempt from Pennsylvania on Saturday and people raise armchair quarterbacking what they would have done. We got, you know, watching this video and that video and had a lot of comment yesterday on it, you're, you're, you're years in law enforcement, watching that, your, your reaction to the situation. Well, I was actually watching it live when it happened and, you know, was in disbelief. And obviously, you know, fast forward to where there's, you know, been some other footage of the shooter and where the locations weren't I, you know, in this information about law enforcement officer, you know, seeing him on the roof and getting back down. I really don't, you know, like to armchair quarterback and second guess and other officers, you know, reactions to something because everybody reacts differently. But clearly, you know, there was a serious failure in the security of that the entire event, you know, as it relates to the outer perimeter. Any position of elevation should have been locked down and it's like, you know, it's been set on TV several times. You know, when they are 15, 150 yard shots, nothing. Yeah. I mean, that's, you can do that with, with just fixed sites and, and so how that was allowed to happen, you know, hopefully we'll know one day, you know, I can say, you know, you know, there's obviously video out there, citizens pointing to the guy and, you know, you know, should have law enforcement started firing on him as soon as he was seen. Yeah. Again, I hate to armchair quarterback. Yeah. That's a tough thing. Yeah. It's a tough thing too. Cause I mean, I had my initial reaction there like I think most people, but I've always tried to take when I think something, I try to be my own devil's advocate and go, did the, the counter team know that he had the gun because I mean, you're in a situation where that could just be anybody, Lord, you know, it's like, I'm still on the side, but I'm challenging myself to say, well, maybe they said they didn't see the gun or something like that. And you can't go shooting somebody who happens like somebody who want to get a better, better view of the thing. Like prone position. Yeah. And I would just see, I'm trying to figure out what we keep them. Yeah. I'm sure that, you know, those weapons have, you know, I don't see them in any way you couldn't have seen a gun again. Yeah. Wasn't there. I'm not on track quarterback. And, you know, one thing that I'm wondering and waiting, you know, patiently for the investigation to play out is did, did that sniper have to wait on permission to take that shot? I keep hearing different things here, right? I hear waiting it or they had to go ahead. I don't know that either. I'm interested. But I think the thing that nobody can really argue is this idea that that building should have been locked down. Absolutely. Right. And you said, like you've done these things before. We've had, had Trump in town before. We had President Obama in town. When y'all work with Secret Service, right? This is a thing. You lock the buildings down. There are meetings that go, go on weeks prior and then leading up to the event, you know, when Obama was in town, I was, you know, much lower rank and was along the stretch of Dauphin Island Parkway, going toward the island, watching a driveway of a building and to not let anybody turn in that driveway. And again, that building had already been cleared and you know, you know, you stand a post. So y'all identified in those meetings beforehand, here's buildings that could give an angle of a shot, right? Yep. A view. Then you go, then that building gets, you said, locked down. So nobody in that building while the motorcade is going by or whatever is that? That's pretty much, you know, the premise behind it. And, and again, that's something impressive to watch, too, if you've never seen an in-person. Those motorcays are running about 80 miles an hour. Yeah. Anything in front of it gets out in the roadway is toast. And so that's pretty impressive to watch in person if, if you ever have that opportunity. So, so again, to see that go through, I know they don't stop, but, but the buildings on the sides, I just, I'm trying to make sure that I'm coming at this, honestly, that that building 130 yards away should have been locked down. It should have been a lot of down. Okay. There's no, people I talk to over the weekend that have some experience in it. They said, you know, it's 360 degrees. It can be as much as 2000 yards around this. Any building that we give advantage point, you know, these are the areas outside the magnetometer, that those are locked down and nobody can go in. Even in high rises, this is one guy was telling me, worked a thing in a city and like a whole bunch of businesses were in this place and nobody went to work that day because he said you can't because it, because we can't let anybody in there. Yeah. I mean, and again, this, this shows exactly the reason why and, you know, but that, that was, you know, you not only look at the point of elevation, you know, being on roof, but just a direct line of sight, you know, to President Trump and again, there was a, there was a law enforcement failure, you know, where that failure come in, I'm sure will come out, you know, soon enough David from the text line said what impact will the imminent retirement of Baldwin County Sheriff Paul Smack have on Mobile County, if any? You know, it's, it won't have a lot of impact. You know, I got a great working relationship with Sheriff Mike have a great working relationship with Chief Deputy Anthony Lowry, who will, you know, become the sheriff, you know, when Hall's for tires and, you know, he's now going to be the, we voted last week at our conference. He's the executive director of the Alabama Sheriff's Association and, you know, he's actually a Montgomery meeting with the governor today to hammer out some of those details. Now, yeah, I had talked to him when he was on the show with me. I just said, I know part of this job is going to be, well, in Montgomery and especially during session, you know, in the, because this is something that all 67, there's things that happen in session in Montgomery that absolutely are important to sheriffs in every county in the state. There, I mean, we, we stand together on a lot of issues that, you know, I guess are legislative issues and you know, House has a lot of experience in going to the legislature and has relationships up there. So there couldn't have been a better pick to be the director of the association. Vince asks, he said, I know this is a city issue and it's been talked about before, but holy crap, there's a huge problem in Tillman's corner with homeless people. I just went through there and saw at least 25 to 30 homeless people. I'll get my guys on it, we have, you know, the sheriff's office has worked with the second precinct of MPD and, and I think it's made a real big dent in it. And you know, we have a unit that addresses that and I'm sure one of them is listening right now and then it's probably already headed that way. We heard that. So again, we don't mind if y'all call, you know, call us when you see it and because they move around for place place. I mean, right here where we are, there's, I mean, it's not 25 or 30, but there's a contingent right here by the studios. There is, you know, unfortunately, we, you know, a lot of its mental illness and we can't arrest our way out of that situation. And that's not, and that's not where there's, it's frustrating. I know on y'all's level. That's not where there's people need to go. No, you know, they need mental health care and I know there's programs in the city to do that. But, and I'll say like I said, at the top of the show, I'd rather use the jail for violent offenders and instead of, you know, people with mental issues. Yeah. I mean, that, where are we now from what is first term of Bentley when the state basically just sent everybody back, right to the county level? And that was such a tax on police department, sheriff's departments. Where are we from then to now? Have we made an improvement on dealing with that for yours? That there's some improvement. We had a meeting last week where the city has negotiated with an entity here mobile for right now for 10 beds and because like there is a population in the jail which, you know, personally, I think is, you know, constitutionally wrong that we can't release someone who don't have an address. And so, you know, now we will be able to release have a place to release them to and I didn't even think about that that you can't release them from jail if they're, they can't tell you where they're going. Right. The people there for mental health issues. And so, you know, this, this will be a huge help because, you know, once, you know, they'll go there, be assessed and, and, you know, hopefully keep the process moving. So even if somebody is, yeah, there, there's no reason to hold them anymore. But if they don't have an address, y'all can't release them. That's correct. Always learn something new. I'll tell you what, we'll go to the break here. We'll come back because I got more questions coming in at three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, your chance to ask the sheriff, Mobile County Sheriff Paul Burch, our guest. [Music] This is Midday Mobile with Sean Sullivan on FMTalk 1065. 1251 FMTalk 1065, Midday Mobile, your chance to ask the sheriff, our guest, Mobile County Sheriff Paul Burch. Adam asks, does the sheriff's department have a bomb sniffing canine? We started the hour talking about the canines. We do, you know, that they can detect bombs, they can detect firearms that may have been discarded during a chase. And so, you know, and they're separate from our, you know, patrol dogs that, you know, track and buy. Can we, can we talk about, talk about what else they can sniff the SD, this is, if y'all hadn't heard this, you know, I thought, well, everybody knew about it because the dog came here in the studio and this and that. This is the most amazing thing. I'd tell people about the sheriff, they said, nah, I'm like, y'all, it's a real thing. So talk about this dog. So, you know, SD can detect electronics, whether it be cell phones, phone drives, floppy disks for those who might still have those. Yeah. So, you know, she can, you know, we take her a lot on our iCAC warrants, iCAC is internet crimes against children, you know, pedophiles, basically, and so she, she joins that team on all of their search warrants, unfortunately, there are many more than I would like to see in Mobile County. No, Joe, there are a lot, there are a lot of perverts in Mobile County. Hey, decide no, but I've, you know, I've said, you know, if you fish a pond, if the pond, if the bass and the pond aren't reproducing, every day you go catch you a limit, eventually it gets pretty hard to catch fish, but it seems like, I mean, it's not a real question. I just, when I see these stories, I'm like, y'all, get a bunch of them. When did the fishing get tough, you know, but it doesn't seem to be, and it's, you know, it's just sickening to know there's that many people who are into child pornography. Because if y'all are catching, then I don't know what the ratio is, but there's that many more out there. And what he was talking about, Estif, well, with the dog, so y'all could go in to some dirt bags house and, you know, they got the computer or whatever and you get, they may have hidden stuff. So if that, if that SD card or that whatever is hidden somewhere in the house that you might not see it, a deputy might not see it, dog can smell it. Estif can, can detect it and alert and, you know, we use, we use her in jail occasionally. Every now and then we get word, the cell phone's been smuggled in. And so she can locate the cell phone once we narrow down the area where the, you know, inmates have it. Yeah, it's, it's talking to a buddy of mine that trained bird dogs with, you know, we're talking about quail dogs and he said, John, if that quail dog can smell that quail at a hundred yards with a crosswind, it can sure smell a piece of electronics at, you know, at a further distance. He, I mean, he wasn't surprised when I told him, he said, well, think about what these dogs do on quail, you know, they can train them for anything. It's my understanding that what she detects and dogs like her is the chemical spray that are on the computer boards within these different various electronics. So that's what she's actually smelling is pretty cool. Yeah. So back to, there's the high tech world with these SD cards. And then we go right back to the fact that a dog is a, is a critical piece of law enforcement. She is. And she's really good. You know, she's, you know, a non-biting dog. Right. And so she's a sweetheart. She's really good at schools and different community events. You know, we also have a canine that's assigned to the schools that's not a biting canine, but she can detect drugs and firearms. So, you know, we'll, we'll use her a lot more this year. Back to the theme of this show, we started off in the beginning. There's all kinds of stuff you are doing high tech. We talk about the high tech world of law enforcement, but we talked about dogs and several, and horses here. And still a big part of what y'all do. It is. It's a very integral part of what we do. The Michael says, when the sheriff leaves your studio, he can go to the I-65 exit and see at least a panhandling there. I am wondered about the camping portion after the ruling, Supreme Court ruling about two weeks ago, three weeks ago, and I'm going to see at the Mobile City Council, moves on this on because it's in reading it. I'm no lawyer, but it seemed like this would give the ability of municipalities to say you can't be camping on public property. Yeah, I would think so, you know, and, you know, again, I'm not super versatile city ordinances because it hadn't been at the city in over 25 years, but I believe they have an ordinance now about, you know, panhandling with a sign and an intersection. And again, I saw, you know, one getting off the interstate on the way here. Although I'd like to throw this into the mix to always cause trouble, but is there a difference between that person panhandling and when I'm heading to the island on Thursday or Friday, there's going to be somebody right there, right by the fruit stand, raising money for softball or whatever. They're in the road too. There they are. I mean, I hate to say because I don't know against a kid's softball team, but, you know, how do you differentiate the person that's hustling for themselves versus, you know, filling the boot or something like that? Well, you know, a lot of it, you know, I think what I was just referring to, I think it includes like intersections where you're exiting the interstate and that's, I think there's some language in there pertaining, you know, to that major thoroughfares and, you know, but again, I would like to read up a little more before I comment too specifically about it. Yeah. And kind of back to that Supreme Court decision, I think it's more like they had talked about in a councilman, a councilman Reynolds has, but I don't know what has happened where people are setting up encampments, you know, on private property, you can say, yeah, you got to get them out of there. But like on municipal property, you know, can you tell them to leave? Yeah. I think, you know, when it becomes an encampment, then, you know, I think you have every right to tell them to leave because you're imposing on others who are maybe trying to use that particular facility. And, yeah, it's not what it's designed for. But the problem is if I'm the enterprising attorney, I'm saying, well, they're a citizen too, whether they're homeless or not, they have the right to be there, you know, you can be there. They can be there. That's the tough thing. Yeah. Well, you know, but a lot of, you know, let's just say, you know, city property or a park, something like that. They're specific rules that say, you know, that sunset is closed. Right. Yeah. And, you know, which by the way, we got like 30 seconds left, but I know talking to a commissioner do it. We were talking about the different who has law enforcement groups talking about some of these great parks are opening back up in the county, which I'm pretty excited about. And that you'll have people in the sheriff's department doing patrols on those places. Yes. We do have a dedicated personnel to control those facilities. So keep them, you know, keep them to where they can enjoy them. They're not somebody taking over there doing the wrong thing. That's right. And, you know, commissioner do it. Let's talk about what a great detective he was. Don't don't listen. No. Okay. Dooley noted that sheriff, as always, we appreciate you coming by, probably see you down the road to go. Yep. We'll be down there. We'll be able to kind of share it. Paul Burch, our guests coming back. 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