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Jeff Poor Show - Tuesday 7-16-24
to get you back to the show. From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Poor Show. I don't think Hank done it this way. Good morning. Welcome to the Jeff Poor Show and I can talk with those six five. Good Tuesday morning to you. Thank you for listening. We always do appreciate it. Text line 251343. 0106. If you need to be in touch with the program, all you gotta do is text me. That's the way we kind of do it here. Let's get kind of a full show today coming up here in about 30 minutes or for Paul DeMarco. That would be a big check here with him. He's kind of watching this from afar. What he thinks of the gathering in Milwaukee. That's caught up in about 30 minutes. Calling in from Milwaukee couple of guests today. First off, like Judy Barlow, he's a short Republican women. She's a delegate up there. She's been on the floor. I've now been with the Republican elite of the state. We'll get her thoughts on the count of the mood of the room. And the 11 o'clock. I thought I heard him on Phil Williams radio show yesterday. By the way, up in Birmingham today or tell him to be more precise. But as I listen to Jared Hudson, who's he ran for sheriff at Jefferson County, but he's a former Navy SEAL. And I think has kind of a good analysis of the whole situation. It unfolded Saturday. What the sniper and the counter snipers are going through. Really. He's he is a pro at this and he is a I think a reliable source. It's been a few minutes for him and the 11 o'clock hour talking about that. That'll be an interesting discussion. And then finally, assuming all goes well, Republican Party Chairman John Wall will be with us in that 11 o'clock hour as well for Milwaukee. So a lot to talk about there. Please make sure you stay tuned for that. So the last night, it fell a little flat to me, to be honest. I mean, you know, the the energy. And this is look. This is not a knock on this. This is how these always are the first night. And I did a while since I sat home and watched one on TV. Probably the 2000. All right. She was the last one I sat and watched on TV. When you're there, you're doing a hundred other things. And the sort of the. What's going on on the stage is kind of secondary. But something, yes, I thought we're a little too long. I know it was like every day American night or whatever. I don't. The teamster. The teamster speech was a big get for the R and C. I mean, that's just something that just doesn't happen. I thought his speech was a little long. Obviously, the moment of the night was Trump walking out in the venue. And I don't. My perception of it was that maybe this is more of a made-for TV thing. Talking to people who were there said it didn't really feel that way in the room. But watching on TV, there's sort of a somberness to it. A vulnerable Trump. I don't know what it was. I'm tired. He may have been on pay medication. But it wasn't the Braggadocia swaggering, you know. I mean, Donald Trump, we're seeing on display throughout these rallies over the years. Somebody stuck to his board and said, "I can't do it too." The only time we've ever seen Trump this vulnerable or this emotional might have been when he got back from Walter Reed after COVID. And he's walking across the White House lawn with the tie in his hand. But other than that, I mean, looking at it right now, it felt different. Good or bad, I don't know. I'm eager to hear what you guys, especially those of you who've watched these things every four years, pretty regularly. I can see this is the first time I have watched an RNC on TV in a long time. Now I've watched DNCs, but this is such a different animal. Guys, I think, let's swap roles here. And if it convinced somebody who took a shot at Joe Biden and a DNC where the political convention right now, it'd be a much different event. I think the DNC would be fueled with rage, anti-second amendment, never let a crisis go to waste. That's what they do. This is the way they roll. That, to me, is just the way I would have expected to go. I think, honestly, I think the Republicans ought to have leaned more into the execution and the half-crazed people that have been led by the media, the left-wing media in America, that might think that this is the appropriate way to go about something. That is the elephant in the room. And it was only kind of casually talked about all night long. You're watching this and you think, you know, it doesn't feel right to politicize it. Maybe not, but, like, what would the DNC have been like? And they would have been all over it. 2513430106. There's also this, and this is the first time, and I'm not there in the room, once again, to really feel it. But this has to be the first time in the room. The Republican National Convention in '84, where you felt this optimistic about things politically. And Dallas, and I was eight years old, but I did watch it. And, you know, Republicans have not been in this position in a long time. Every election cycle, probably for a lot of you, the Democrats, the media told us the Democrats were the favorites. Heck, they told us they were the favorites in 80 and 84, too. I think maybe two thousand four hundred nine eleven. Well, I mean, it felt like they had had some kind of hope for John Kerry all the way up until the New York Convention. And then, like, from the Convention forward, from the '04 Convention to Election Day, it felt very Republican, like the Afterburner got ignited with George W. Bush. But it feels like now, I mean, when when the usually Republicans feel like the little brother, especially when the media talk about them. It's like they go over in Alabama and it was very Alabama bias in a lot of places in the state. It feels like that with the media because there's so what to take for the Democratic Party and Democrats can do no longer. Everything Republicans do is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. It seemed like it's headed in that direction. But for once, it feels like Republicans have a sense of optimism. Because it bit to hundreds of these gatherings of conservatives and Republicans. And in my professional career, we're always like taking on the state, taking on the government. We're always had to play from the underdog role. But now there's, like I said, a sense of optimism. I mean, I have a sense of optimism that we haven't seen before. And I think Republicans, Democrats share that view. The the the the asked Biden, Biden, Q talk is finally simmer down. Let him be a sacrificial am. Don't don't throw one of your star players out there off the bench and ruin that kind of thing. And that's why I think it's really important for the future. And maybe this, it may, maybe sends a little too overconfident, but it feels that way for a lot of people right now in Republican circles. And if you're a betting person, tell me this. How much money would you lay down? Will Joe Biden win in the 2024 election? Is there anybody who would lay one red dime down head to head? No line? No. I'm not going to spot the Democrats a bunch of points here. Well, and just how bad is it? What have you thought about that? Like what does what how bad is it for Democrats down ballot? I mean, we talked a little bit about the history of the Rio appearance did last night. A Carolyn Dobson, Mr. Murray figures. Dobson might pull it off. But what about the rest of the country out of these swing states? The assassination attempt on Donald Trump. You couple that with a very bad performance from Joe Biden. I don't even know that Obama could have overcome the situation. If it's Obama circa 2012 versus Donald Trump right now, I don't even know that. But more or less, Joe Biden, who's just way past his prime beleaguered and not not generating a lot of enthusiasm. They've taken a break from Project 2025 to making out JD Vance to be some kind of of a large villain. I'm fine. I mean, I don't have real strong emotions about it either way. I get the brand. You know, you've got to understand where JD Vance is coming from and sort of the forgotten man and how that plays into the whole phenomenon of Trump. Do guys like James, the unofficial troll of the Jeff bill? I just don't refuse to try to understand. Let's call it a cult. The cult of Trump. Why do you think such a cult exists? Why do you think people are lost enough to cast their lot with the Donald Trump, James? And a guy like JD Vance has explained this with his name and his name. Your institutions have let you down. Your government, they moved on and they're, you know, we're focused on LGBTQ rights and we're focused on the ghost of climate change. Meanwhile, in middle America, there's people dealing with opioid addictions, it's just wrecking small towns, trade cars. They're wrecking the local economies. Manufacturing is gone. And I get it like that's how economies go, but there was no real answer for it. And instead of like trying to slow down the tide of change, our policymakers in D.C. just sped them up. They hit the, they paved the road and sped up. And sped up the acceleration. That's what people are tired of. So that's what's important. And I don't think people really understand how a Trump is possible, or they refuse to. Instead of trying to acknowledge that, it's just, it's only because there are races. I guess people in 2016 only started being racist because of Donald Trump. There was never racism before that was there. There was never homophobia. There was never bigotry. There was none of that until Donald Trump came along. And that's why Donald Trump is what he is, isn't it, guys? But that's the important thing that people refuse to understand. You watch this unfold. You watch what's going on. As you watch the teamsters, presidents speak at the R and C. They wonder how this something like this happened. Understanding that connection between this whole Trump movement to be going on for almost 10 years now. And what we have now is why you have Donald Trump. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, six-bury back this is the Jeff Porte Show it up at talk 106 5. tell me to stay away from a train line she said that all the railroad men just drink up your blood like wine. Welcome back to the Jeff Porte Show it up at talk 106. Thank you for sticking around on this Tuesday morning text line 2513430106 if you want to be in touch with the program hit us up there. JD Vance, so what do you think of him somebody pointed this out the advance breaks a a long standing in the tradition or theme of American politics right now of a full beards who was the last time at that level vice president or president. Someone with a full beard had been nominated to such a lofty perch but a while. If you recall we I guess we tend to like our high ranking elected officials shaved. I'll see the last candidate on a presidential ticket with a full beer was Benjamin Harrison in 1892 for what is worth and those trivial anyway Paul Michael coming up in the next hour or the next segment stick around or that I also I know hearing about some reports on the ground about they're having been some protesters but it is protesting outside the R and C just quite in Milwaukee just isn't really quite on the level. Next month when the Democrats gather what will the protest will there be protest what will those look like. Are they still fighting about Israel slash Gaza is that still a thing and we think about everything that's just been overshadowed by not only Trump assassination but Joe Biden's egg elated the debate last month. And all the things that Republicans are going to have to be able to use against or uses talking points I guess against Democrats Katie Brit spoke last night. I don't know she's she was fine. I still think it's real interesting to chose her give her a prime time speaking role and not Tommy Tuberville. Also yesterday we talked about it on the show a bunch. The the law fair the documents federal documents case was dismissed by the judge in the southern district of Florida Eileen Cannon. Any appointment of the special counsel was unconstitutional and I don't know will the DOJ appeal it will I guess they will too little too late. I think law fair is breathing its last breath here guys. This was supposed to stop Trump but it's only made him more powerful sounds like some of the line from a Star Wars movie but every time they think that they strike and draw blood on Trump because one of these like prosecutions or legal cases the public rallies he goes up in the polls it just is not whatever you think the motivations were but I think the motivations here because of the different standards of justice were pretty pretty clearly political it's not a political tool. There is sort of a sympathetic reaction for the American public going did they look at it and they look at it like the big bad government's picking on the little man and there's consequences for that. These people don't get it they get high on their own supply to get drug power they get guinea you watch them on TV news and that's what happens all right we'll be right back this is Jeff or showed a good talk for the 65. They're sticking around on this Tuesday morning texting them to get touched in the program there was two five one three four three zero one zero six whatever it is it's on your mind hit me up there still come on a program Judy Barler from Eastern Shore public and women that's in the next hour and John Wall from the Alabama Republican Party chairman of the Alabama Republican Party will be with us joining us now and he and I both kind of watching this from afar but Paul DeMarco joins us on the line Paul good morning are you great how you doing today do well do well thanks for making time for us we always appreciate it I guess we'll do this for sort of the address the elephant in the room the reaction to the attempted assassination and I don't know it feels different I don't know what it is to be on the side of the ball and the way things are sort of going and there's a bunch of emotional factors but politically speaking I haven't seen or heard about this much optimism from Republicans since I was a child yeah if we can just talk about the assassination check real quick government how much accountability do we ever have from government look back to Afghanistan those 13 soldiers and sailors are you aware of Jeff of anybody anybody that was held accountable for their deaths the complete failure of all of that and you had all these folks come before Congress and we got nothing for those poor families and here we here we are there's going to be an independent investigation we can't have a JFK investigation there's no questions everything's got to be put on the table because there's just so many questions swirling around all this there's a lot of finger pointing that's you know one thing I do hope is complete independent clear answers who failed who didn't fail and accountability for so from that part as for the election I mean yes been a you look what's going on with the president is vice presidential pick the dismissal of that case I mean yeah he's riding high down thank goodness he survived this ask nation tip but you know how politics he can change on the dime yeah I do but I mean there's no one thing here is just there's just no reason I don't think to believe that Joe Biden has a like an ace up his sleeve can pull off anything right I mean he's just it's been flat for for the I guess last six years unimpressive uninspiring and for Biden to win I mean it's going to really take a Hail Mary and I don't know they're capable of it well what's going to be interesting Jeff is obviously for since the debate it has been two weeks of hard is he going to quit he's going to quit obviously with the assassination attempt with the vice presidential pick by Trump and then you know everything leading up to the convention this week and president Trump speaking on Thursday night what happens on a week from today or a week from Monday are we back to are the Democrats back to we can't have him as the presidential nominee are they back on that are they just giving up on that you know that I think that's once we get past this week and that the news cycle is looking for to for more for more food to report are we back on that because the media was on all over that I mean they were all on board hey that that night he cannot be the nominee are they are they have they been are they off of it well do you think it's just so just just I look what we know right now the Democrats are kind of like this is the one that got away from us you can't win why throw another candidate out there and let's make make make a potential you know future star of the party fall on the sword no I don't think they're going to give up on it and and you know somebody was asking this me this morning like about you know Elon Musk and his is a good what 45 million dollars he's putting in a month towards a pack to support Trump in that number I read I said put it towards ballot security because you know the Wisconsin Supreme Court just ruled in the past three weeks they're still going to support those boxes where you can just put put ballots in those boxes so anything is possible in politics and you've you've got to focus on the election you got to focus on ballot security you know the polls as of last week were still closed so I thank you still full steam ahead yeah I don't disagree I mean they got to keep playing he got play to the whistle but I mean just as observers here Paul you and I I mean would you lay a dollar down on Biden right now well it was interesting I mean you know there was you know the people are talking about Tim Scott and Katie Britt but what about the teamsters president speaking last night and and I'm like is he just hedging his vats you you'll heard he speak or you know or is he like reflecting what his members are telling us like look we're voting for Trump right you know you go out there and do all that but is he is or his members saying we're voting for Trump you know he's reflecting what we won't so I thought that wasn't interesting because has there ever in the history of this country a teamsters no president spoke at the Republican convention yeah no no and only missing me see last night Jim Saki said that I mean seeing the teamster president speak stung a little I think that was the way she described it no obviously I think that's I think it's a big deal I'm not so sure that if you watched the last night or not but I don't know if I would have given the teamsters guy that much airtime and prime time at the convention what I I agree with you and especially with some of the stuff he was saying I mean you know yeah what exactly you're your standard uh Republican talking points and it was also like and and you know we we just we don't we don't look at party we look at you can't see that a Republican national convention but I think Republicans in the room were just happy he was there yeah I think it's the hey that the whole theme of this presidency is the elites it's the Hollywood it's the media it's uh it's you know pro-homos it's it's what everybody's been saying that the college academics they're all out of touch with you Donald Trump is in touch with the average man and woman uh and I think that feeds into his pick of uh JD Vance I mean we are in touch with the average American we we we take the mantle of the the blue collar worker the average man we've taken that from the Democrats because look what they have done whether it's boys playing in girls sports whether it's uh what's going on these riots at the campuses that's done now we're we're your party that's the thing is what it looks like to me I agree with that it's just the they got a little two niche on the Democrat side every little special interest and trying to be um you know when diversity being such a uh a high high ideal for the Democratic Party you can't please everybody you know uh you can please please as many people as you can but I think this is just this is what's going on here they they got a little too there's just too much there and they've left other things kind of on the burner yeah and and that's why when you looked at some of this polling and even some of the you know the the Rust Belt that is is closer you know the Michigan's and Wisconsin's and Pennsylvania's and even they talked about New Jersey and New York like he's pulling Donald Trump is pulling folks that uh admit Romney or George Bush never pulled well tell me since he's connecting with him and I know if you're handicapping this right now what does that what do you think the totals look what is how about this is the way to ask your question what is possible here for Republicans in Trump to cycle what I mean what states will Donald Trump that he has it historically or Republicans have it historically been competitive in what's on the table you think here well well let's look at two different things folks are going to vote against Biden and then folks are going to vote for Trump I mean when they're talking about New Mexico I think the governor New Mexico told Joe Biden my state is in play and that had been a red state then it became a blue state and when you start looking at states like Nevada a big union membership out there but they're saying hey that's towards uh Joe Trump now Arizona who knows I mean can you predict anything about Arizona no no I mean put Arizona aside when you talk about states like Nevada and New Mexico maybe George Trump you know they talked about um Michigan I think with everything that's going on in the Middle East I think that's why you say could Michigan go towards to Trump because of the anti-Joe Biden vote there in that whole Detroit and all that area so I mean simple to say in landslide was it after Reagan did I read that after the assassination temp bill Reagan he won every state except Minnesota yes that Minnesota DC went for Mondale I know everybody's talking landslide landslide but you've been covering this a long time like I've been watching this is still July there is so much that's going to happen between now and November and look I want to be the most optimistic person it's over it's a landslide election you know let's start talking about the cabinet there's just too much that can happen between now and then I just don't know what I guess I what what can't I do like what what less less the Jeffords are there is it going to be Apollo is it going to be this or are we going to just run on a national abortion ban and uh project 2025 and JD Vance being like uh some kind of like Lex Luthor character I mean I don't think that's gonna get the many votes no I think they've played all those cards and they and they and they and you look at two years ago where democrats outperformed and republicans didn't win what they thought they were going to win but there is such a thing is momentum in politics there's no question about it at some point then it's like what everybody wants to be on the winning team which is what I thought you saw with the teamsters last night I mean yeah did he get invited by the republicans but I think he also see his members are for Donald Trump and I think that's where the momentum is starting to swing plus they can't forget that Joe Biden's um performance and debate and they know in the next four years there could if Joe Biden were to get elected it'd be a president Kamala Harris is that do they really they don't they don't see that as Syria that's not a serious candidate I mean I disagree the teams you see is maybe there's a like it was more superficial but I mean there's a real problem there the the democratic party isn't like a democratic party and historical American view it's like a put all the cultural issue stuff aside let's pretend that the the whole discussion about boys playing a girl sports and all that stuff on the table here but but you look at everything else it's becoming more like a European sort of left wing socialist type of approach to policy just that that kind of stuff doesn't do well in America I don't think and I think that's it becomes more focused on like the collective and the big cities and the sentiment there and that's where you start seeing a little there's starting to lose a little with groups like the teachers are probably other unions I would suspect well Jeff isn't it the perfect storm of the democrats have just gone so far left like you described just so far left and then the republicans have some like Donald Trump who really taps into that average man populism and so between the two of those it puts the republicans in a very good position to win the presidency take back the senate and keep the house with both how far left the democrats have gone and then how Donald Trump is like this is about you it's not about political issues I'm just about you I'm about you and your family and your job and taking care of the economy and I love America so that's look at Ronald Reagan and after President Carter I mean isn't that kind of what Reagan did like you know this country's great yes and it pulled all those back after the 70s I mean there really is a a look back some similarities I'll say everything but some similarities there but we were doing a correction here and I get in trouble for saying this about I could teach you so much all the time I still think of it as a pendulum swinging back and forth back and forth and maybe with the pendulum this time you had some forces holding it trying to keep it from swinging the other direction but inevitably the pendulum does go back to the other side it's always trying to achieve some kind of equilibrium and just sort of a correction right now that the democrats that left side of the aisle has way over reached here and Paul I mean think about Joe Biden himself yeah he's he's a traditional democrat but like he must never like the far left flank of the democratic party in the 80s and 90s and even in the 2000s and as Obama's running mate this whole like wokeism that is within the federal government now Paul I think is sort of a new development a new sort of it's not a if you take Biden pre 2019 say it's it's not something that you would associate with him no he was more like some of the centric republican candidates we've run in the past and that's why they're really is it George Wallace has said there's was there's not a dime for the difference right well there is you can clearly see the difference now and if you didn't have Donald Trump running and you had one of some of the past candidates running people could have said well there is a difference but it's really just not that there's such a stark difference such a stark difference I think that's why we are where we're at now with the popularity of Donald Trump and and why people are taught I'm again until I see it like this this is going to be a landslide that he's going to win 49 states or 48 states or 47 states I'm not there yet I want to believe it but I'm just not I think it's in the way we ought to look at it Paul is it's possible right I don't I'm not going to say that it is a lock but you would never have said it was possible with Trump the last two times with a bit Romney with John McCain with George W Bush you never would have said such a landslide it's possible we were sitting here today on July 16th 2024 and that there is a possibility at least of a landslide at this point well you mentioned something earlier and again the unity in Milwaukee and again I still think Nashville was dumb for not having this convention in the world eyes of the world looking at Nashville but when there's Chicago when Joe Biden's trying to win the middle and he's got a room full of folks saying no no no no we're not in the middle we're as far left I mean Bernie Sanders and all and AOC and you've got the protesters for pro-homos and all that there there's going to be everybody's going to watch the Democratic convention like is this what we're looking for because how does Joe Biden swing to the middle when everybody around is saying no no no no that's going to be the contrast that we're all going to be watching between the Republican convention where they pray for the parade for the hostages in Israel they're not going to do that if the Democratic convention it's the exact thing they attack Republicans for that the Republican party cares too much about their right too much about the Tea Party too much about the far right flank and this is they're afraid of losing those guys on the left that's exactly right and that's why he he he's gonna be told swing to the middle but he can't that they boxed him in they're not going to allow him to do that Paul got to leave it there out of time but I always appreciate you making time for us and let's talk again soon hope your listeners have a great day thank you all the marco ladies and gentlemen we'll be right back to see is the Jeff pore show it at the top with oh six five what you doing thanks for sticking around on this Tuesday morning to five one three four three zero one zero six you want to be a touch with the show what you gotta do you gotta text me and we will proceed accordingly still come on a program about uh 45 minutes or so from now Judy Barlow all the East Shore Republican women uh she will be joining us from uh Milwaukee uh the side of the the uh the proceedings the uh Republican National Convention two five one three four three zero one zero six um gene gene and James the only one's participating on the text line the risk kind of disappointing and terrifying uh Gene's had to see Vance destroy his pull the career so soon Prince is cooked and look at what happened into sessions Gene delivered like a crazy universe Gene Vance can be vice president uh James the official troll I watch the video of Trump for 2016 where he called the second amendment cult members to take her out I know you have a well-rounded excuse as to your own hand in the violent rhetoric uh no he you you lose that there's no one took a shot at Barack Obama or Joe Biden you don't have any moral high ground here all they did was break some glass to go sit Nancy Pelosi's chair in the US Capitol no one tried to kill no one tried to kill kill K. I. L James no one tried to kill the president of the United States do you you walk you have to see the moral high ground on this now and Republicans aren't making I mean some on Twitter are but Republicans are making this I know I need what they should be making in my opinion we'll be right back this is effort talk one of six five from Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics it's the Jeff Porte show I don't think they've done it this way well the back to the Jeff Porte show enough to talk with those six five thanks for staying with us on this Tuesday morning broadcasting uh this morning from Birmingham uh we're and take care of a little work business here two five one three four three zero one zero six you need to be in touch with the show all you do is shoot me a text a message still to come about 30 minutes from now from Judy Barlow who's getting ready to interview Katie Britt but she's going to join us at 10 30 block we'll talk to her uh sort of about how it went or maybe she's interviewing her now actually but we'll talk about that and what it was like getting to see an Alabamaian on the stage last night Alabama was all said and done when the Trump era is in American politics is finally over Alabama's played an outsized role in this president's administration and it's in his campaign in his politics I mean we could start with Jeff Sessions but just look around he's made multiple trips to the state now Tommy Tuberville Katie Britt for whatever reason back to Luther Strange and a weird Roy Moore Luther Strange Republican primary runoff in 2017 I mean I think about this all the time and I know other states have their internal political squabbling and whatever but the Halaton on a national basis do we talk about what's going on in Idaho or Kansas or you know some other state that has a similar punching weight as Alabama as it pertains to national politics it's not often so uh like historically when the when the the book the definitive book is written about Donald Trump it'll be kind of remarkable how much the state of Alabama appears in that book two five one three four three zero one as zero six is the text line hit me up there also on the program uh Jared Hudson a former Navy SEAL is a very fascinating take on how Saturday unfolded and then John Wall the Republican Party Chairman for the state of Alabama will be with us also at 11 o'clock hour he picked us up on that text line like you said two five one three four three zero one zero six I recap last night was the first night he already see it just felt a little bit flat to me but and and what I'll say this this is the first one in a long time that I haven't been there in some capacity watching it on TV not I mean the speeches I guess Amber Rose kind of uh thing was kind of I don't know the woman with the tattoo forehead outer forehead the Teamsters president talked way too long some of those speeches I just I know there was no star power there that's a star powers and we didn't need Tony Danza or or whoever the go-tos are for Republicans right now John Rich speaking on the stage this is not why Republicans are tuning in and here's what they were tuning in for they were tuning in because the leader of their party the presidential nominee was almost killed on Saturday and I felt like that was downplayed does anybody else like watching this last night wanted a little more of that and I don't know how that would have kind of come to be what it could have been we'll at least talk about the media I think back to the it was maybe it was 04 all these conventions and how many times did the chant CNN sucks and things like that erupted maybe Emmy granted this was the first night a little subdued everyone's a little shell shocked but I I don't my concern is that this will be the theme and and that Trump's gonna go in and try to give a unity speech I don't I wouldn't trust these guys don't try to extend the olive branch to them because they sure as hell are going to extend it to you that's the way the left plays it's it's the ins justify the means they they they they try to bankrupt Donald Trump they have indicted him in multiple jurisdictions they're losing they are losing guys you know you thought Trump's moose was cooked about a year ago didn't you I did so well they're going to get him on something but they're they continue to lose and even if you look at the even if he considered and you look at the the the New York conviction there's a lot of questions there to jury instructions very open ended away that judge Judge Richard uh left it made it more possible to get the conviction and I all fair isn't working um we have few texts to get to here 2513430106 Lloyd everyone keeps asking how the shooter got on the roof it's obvious they were in on it an approved assassination an approved assi nation from the top I I don't I don't think so I'm more as time goes by guys it is entirely possible your government that you think is capable of pulling off a grand conspiracy like this is not it's just totally adept totally socially engineered full of DEI full of quota hires not a meritocracy there's this moral meritocracy that has been in our society for the last 20 years that meritocracy is only get you so far you need more diversity because meritocracy keeps the underclass is down or something and so they try to they try to engineer the government as such but the problem is you're not getting the best people most qualified people for these jobs and I think that's what was on display on Saturday now um the analogy somebody kind of gave me and I can totally see this I guess I don't think it was like some kind of great conspiracy Lloyd and y'all can disagree me but I also think this it's like the it's like leaving your car unlocked with the keys of the ignition you didn't outright tell somebody to come steal your car but you didn't take every every possible measure to prevent it from being stolen as you should have that to me is a better analogy than this was ordered from all high in front of all these people I you know like well if you know because you had democrats that were wanting to strip him of a secret service protection if something happens well you know we didn't do anything which negligence may be as just as bad as some kind of conspiracy but but I think the negligence is more of a product of like I said the less qualified people being elevated to positions or responsibility they couldn't handle number one and number two just a total lack of respect for Donald Trump and him not thinking that he deserves that kind of protection democrats have no moral high ground but they they may have had it I would argue they had it with after January 6 you just can't do that that's not the way we do things in this country but they over reached as democrats do it anytime they have a good hand they overplay it and they overplayed it January 6 card with the the the made for tv production and prime time going down the list there they overplayed their hand and they're not getting what they think they should get out of this and this is where we are today fire dog the amount of controversy rush limbaugh got for saying he hooked up on a fail trumped his hitler and a threat to democracy trump will be dictator and in all elections jean and jean your party got trump elected president again law fair the rhetoric of the media democrats did this on a texter doesn't tell you there's a conspiracy it tells you there's a really screwed up they could should go ahead and start investigating what trump gets in office keep investigating it then start outing heads or start cutting kids uh backstrap you ever noticed the trolls never have anything good to say about their candidate or their side I challenge the trolls in the jet poor show to give us good reason they support democrats visions for the u.s are they trump haters well james does this he's like oh i don't buy fan either but he never criticizes biden it and he doesn't really criticize trump he just criticizes people you guys who affiliate with trump as you are some kind of brain dead sycophants that you know it aren't really thinking it's true like you need to speak at a double change if you listen to the speak in your fact home wait if you listen to you speak in fact your tone is not confident in the republicans you know given the time republicans will blink it up i am just going to watch them screw this up you want to put a little wager on this james you want a little a little wager on that how confident do you feel about them not doing well is the question and based on what do you think joe biden's got he's got the trick play the secret weapon that he's going to unveil right there at the last minute it's like a billy bush kind of tape or something and then all of a sudden trouble lose bradley bird and martha roby but still with the presidency maybe or maybe this time he loses it auto jeff i think you nailed it it was not a permission but omission to cause the assassination attempt yeah i just i don't know that this guy had the capability of of being aware of that i don't know what his motivations were but right now it's hard not to say is it possible democrats talking about dollar trump v and hiltler might have fed into that democrats have no moral high crowd just from daniel and foley what about the blm movement not morals no morals uh sam good morning jeff changes subject and don't know if it's been talked about or not but then you happen to see the woman who was the head of the teachers association show last week don't know what she was on or she was selling but quite the show yeah that was that was bizarre danny a head guys these are some unhinged people uh and they text your jeff please comment on the fire delivery speech but i had the teachers i felt like i had been teleported to a democrat convention and some alternative even though i'm blue i appreciate your far fair views uh sam says and i you know i i didn't like it i wasn't crazy about that speech at all and i i would have put that speech i understand that you need that it's a big deal for republicans to get support from a teamsters big wig but i did not like the message the messaging in that speech was way way off should have been earlier in the night they should not have put him in prime time maybe you don't put him at the very beginning of the slate when no one's watching but you don't put him that's not with donald trump blocks out and that's the big moment of the night and he had the teamsters guy talking about all this kind of weird labor unit stuff was not the time for that you need something a little more inspirational we'll be right back this is fm talk about o six five you can now do more without it costing you more alabama's attractions have come together to offer the all-in-one ticket it downloads to your mobile device no matter how many attractions listed on the ticket you see during the time span you bought your price stays the same pick the right ticket option it best fits your schedule and then enjoy more attractions without spending more all-in-one tickets for different areas of alabama are available at alabama.travel and other places where online tickets are sold brought to you by alabama tourism department the aba and this station welcome back to the jeff pore show it up and talk one of the six five gd barlow coming up in the next segment so stay tuned for that uh let's see what else do we have here uh i'm gonna get through these texts uh like i did get but two texts in the first hour now the second hour i've gotten like 20 uh government fbi are capable of this column is dorothy killigail and had the storogid your mafia they took care of for all they did barrow burrow but i think you're right in this situation dei incompetence yeah i i don't think everybody's not not in this day and age not with so many cameras and so many citizen uh quote-unquote journalist out there i don't feel it's better i i i just think it was just flat out of competence it but maybe this is a definitely the possibility maybe they knew it was incompetence maybe they knew that there were vulnerabilities because of their approach and if something happened we don't know that something's gonna happen but you never know right that's as far as i would take that king of all named textures who need to conspiracy when there's just bad hires apparently at high level security i that's what it looks like to me james the unofficial troll i tried to bet you before and you like a cow or bowled out so now trump got shot and you're all in now okay jeff what do you want to bet i'll try this and get either way with you i'm not i wasn't speaking but james just regard my prior comments i'm not gonna bet some anonymous troll but i'm asking you would you wager i'll try up losing right now what kind of hell mary do you think joe biden can throw that uh don't take me literally ill not jean for eight years we reward it after every rally the violence can occur so no surprise the speaker got attacked by one of his own oh oh jean you don't know that there's no uh i guess there's no accountability for chronic malcatence on the text line but we'd appreciate the feedback uh no text or the atypical staged i know come on guys buddy uh can't wait for the debate between vance and kamala going and shipping shore okay thanks for the update uh a new texture or perry from fair hope it seems like james here is comments he needs a cognitive steel test too just like grandpa chose uh chris i already thought so the teacher speech i wasn't still familiar with him yesterday and he said he's on a dorsey trepper biden and would wait to do so possibly after the dancy conviction i just would not have put him on prime time i hate that was a mistake uh damn yankee our society culture has always been crazy i'd hand it in the hinged individuals the history will show that covid lockdowns of 2020 2022 dramatically changed the middle health of many americans history will label many of our country's issues as pre and post covid but hey texture hey jerk this is bar for follow so what do you think about jd vases the vp vice president debates how long ago just want to know your opinion i i would be surprised that there is a vice presidential debate ricki uh i can't read that right now it hurts my eyes ricki uh you're called to spicy this morning a named pat asked why are republicans writing over the atypical trump i could go on could go for a new tv it applies is for the kids it's a bear calling yesterday since it's not what republicans do they got lives they don't put government on a pedestal they don't or are they don't seek out excuses to use their spare time to do those kind of things you got jobs they got families you got baseball practice they got too much going on in their lives to take to the street and start looting and vandalizing when it does happen it happens i guess they go for the jugular they go to the us capital must like they're not going to just knock over the uh the downtown storefront you know the little don't furnish your store or the nail salon or whatever we gotta get a break in here we'll be right back this is the jeff pore showing if i'm talking one oh six five oh welcome back to jeff pore showed if i'm talking one oh six five hey just stay with us on this Tuesday morning this time day one of the r and cedar republican national convention in the books and uh day two tonight uh i think we hear from family tonight maybe so we'll see how that goes but uh we'll uh we'll we're efforting uh i don't you know this is not really a verb but uh we're efforting Judy Barlow uh she since she had a ten o'clock with Katie bridge she does her own podcast for the national republican women and it sounds like maybe uh tag got away from them uh knowing how these things are and how busy people are at these events getting the schedules to light up just right sometimes does it happen but that gets me time to get through these texts as we go if we are able to connect with Judy from Milwaukee two five one three four three zero one zero six uh buddy what the hell who chose alabama's delegates what a joke mostly older bleach pod here and women look like a realtors convention well i mean how do you those are the people who ran so and i'll say this uh they change the way they do delegates in alabama for the republican convention they no longer put them on a republican primary ballot they put them on uh they put them on uh the the republican executive committee what you do have to run for the state republican executive committee they convene they have two meetings a year a summer and a winter meeting and they vote on who is on who is going to who who the republican parties delegates are so that's who picked somebody um i don't know how you feel about that but republican party is a private organization it's not a public organization and i would say if you don't like who they are sending to these conventions do you need to go join the republican party run as a member of the executive committee and then you'll have a say at who the delegates are but they did that to keep uh i i think why did it happen in 2020 as some of the delegates were not the handpicked delegates that the party would have elders would have liked to have seen when they put them on the ballot and the fear is of course the democrats are coming and vote for who's going to be the delegates i i it's a whole strange new rule there but i nothing you can really say about it they're i guess said a private organization Jeff is checking this from Jason he's checking how social media is pointing to minds of almost everyone i know they are all absorbed in trump conspiracy videos at the sad times everybody wanted to crack the case is tiresome but like let's be honest here guys is it possible that government just sucks it is bad at their job it just does everything wrong and in this circumstance they blew it here too i mean this is this is fundamental conservatism 101 that you can't rely on government for everything and government's going to let you down and where we want government to succeed is secret service military but guess what they're fallible just as well especially with a president with leadership like joe biden and it's this idea that we need to socially engineer every asset every facet of government that you got to have to do right diversity uh yet he used to write pronouns add all that together guys and it's not crazy to think that they can let us down in such a a significant way but this is this is the lesson here and i i'm not making excuses but you can't rely on government for every to to be the solution to every problem you have they can't even protect the the probably the future but certainly the past president united states why are you going to rely on them for your happiness yes we don't need to look to govern politics is fascinating it's a fascinating study of uh american psychology of the american people it's important i'm not trying to diminish it but as a but if we are going to deify these political figures they're going to let you down and furthermore if we're going to deify the agencies that they're over they're going to let you down but like i said if the federal government can't protect not all trump then why would you think that the federal government can be the source of anything else in your life fire dog uh let me protesters at the r and c and let me protesters at the d and c well this what left wingers do they protest gee and elizabeth truss the shortest careers prime minister speaking at the convention what does that do for trump gee if i were you i wouldn't vote for trump gee seriously i would uh i would vote for the other guy you probably shouldn't vote for trump i need texture i would wager what wager that trump's not going to win but i would wager you that there's not going to be something that comes up hurting trump or advanced before the election but it's not going to it's sort of like yeah but i think it's continuing with this trajectory i don't know what else you could do other than the iconic historic like fist up in the air after you just took a bullet to the ear you could how you could overcome but but things are adding in a very upward trajectory we're in a place that republicans have it been in 30 40 years 40 years yeah 84 where it just looks like they're on their way to sailing to uh to at least to win but if not a big big big landslide remember when it took for democrats to overcome the Reagan years it took like a a transformational character and whatever you say about bill clinton and his personal life well bill clinton really bridged the divide the the democrats for 50 years should run on old fdr new dealism it just wasn't what the democratic party needed to win and you had the carvals and stuff monopolists and that whole apparatus bring clinton and and they ran his moderates they appealed to the the usual idiosyncrasies of the democratic party and they appealed to a bigger base of people in you know throughout the country george hw bush seemed to loop and then he had ross perot you throw that in but it was bill clinton who rescued democrats from that death spiral what's he going to take to rescue democrats and out are is this just a blip in the radar and the democrats will resume their sort of ascendancy is it seems like they've been on since obama lv very well abides press conferences he said that oh about trump there's more there's moral coming daniel the democrats have taught how our mothers and mothers with kids has said they wished the gunmen would not have missed they are trumped arrangement syndrome i am going to go on a limb here i think these people on the left who are cheering this there are a lot more people on the left behind the scenes that we're wishing that that gunmen have been a little more accurate than they're letting on josh you can't win democrats if you strike me down i shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine yeah there was every time they take a shot at trump every time it's like every time they throw down field with the law fair with some hyperbole it winds up the ball ends up being a pick six it's not having its intended consequence step jack the lady will see the list i said that trump needs to be kept in the line of fire but she quickly changed it by saying trump need to be kept in focus they just can't help themselves they don't have to be careful about what they say james the sad troll uh jeff what is what you're feeling is conscious yet deep down you know that trump is apos s undeserving of the presidency no i i don't i disagree but james the whoever's deserving of presidency is based upon who gets the most votes in the electoral college not it's not some kind of like emotional response from jeff poor james the troll of who deserves the presidency and james for the hundred time you need to just take a chill pill and think about why are people voting for him it's not a deserving is not a uh an appropriate way to describe it if he earns the presidency by getting the most votes then that he's president it's not because you don't like him because he sells a bible or something this is am i getting through to you man jean i don't know like trump since 9/11 what he bribed about now he has the tall building well jean i all we can do is pray for you you and jean james jean yelp yelp or a little too active on the text line on a day two days three days after your uh the the object of a lot of your venom over the last couple of years had just almost gotten killed like what's wrong with you guys it's like you can't help yourselves if somebody had tried to kill biden who goes on a the adversarial talk radio show a Joe Biden had almost been killed who goes on like a pro left wing media outlet imagine right wingers and it says stuff you guys say like like what kind of like horrible human beings are you just can't just take a few days off after an assassination attempt yeah i think do do some cell searching here guys just to sit down and look at yourself in the mirror and think what am i doing with my life that it's it's the tuesday after a saturday of an assassination attempt and you go on the local talk radio shows text line to badmout the guy that almost got killed and his supporters seriously like there's something wrong there or you i mean like unless you're just taking your trolling exercises to the extreme like like can't you take a day off take a week off come back come back next month this is not the time for that it's getting exhausting having to like respond to this stuff the cows was almost killed and i tried to think like if it be like me going to uh let's see whatever the local talk show at Tucson Arizona is assuming they had a text line after gabby giffords got shot at talking about how terrible she was as a congresswoman like like what's going on there this is better couldn't ever got 50 percent to vote thanks to perow why is the democrat escape campaign campaign who they really are how long do we fool them it's just to get to the finish line when it all cost third-degree your government fails all the time look at how 158 and Sarah and traffic mess as they got BP money they should have went ahead and forwarded all the way Mississippi not the Alabama patch the road to some make more traffic problems for the future do the right the first time that 158 situation is i guess it's an improvement over bloody 98 but you're right right there at the interstate is created a mess and they overdeveloped it there uh james people wonder the same for jim jones victims they are an occult jeff untrue i text you daily liar i'm not saying that you don't text me every day i'm saying what why not take a break james i got the gals got killed what if he had been killed would you be doing the same dog and pony show i don't understand people like you i named texter it's so sad jay's mother must be going to the grocery store for him by filling up his car with gas every day he's lost touch with what's going on in the country but that's just the point like one more time to emphasize this take all the the happening state the bad debate performance from by the way take the assassination attempt away take all the law fairway why do people flock to trump is it his hair did he have like a great line of stakes these tall buildings why would people flock to the the billionaire from queens new york why would they do that and this is the question i never they never can answer on the left it all levels of the left from rachel mattell on down even joe biden barack obama kind of gets into it understand why they go with a guy like donald trump it and instead it gets to russia collusion arid's uh it's just pick a tree it's just some kind of hatred there's never an acknowledgement of why people really go to trump they refuse to even try to understand we'll be right back this is epip talk 4065 now if you're leather jagged means to you what this hat means to me but i get you i miss my son not the good things i've done walk away from trouble if you can it won't be in your week if you turn the energy i hope you're old enough to understand the sun you don't have to fight to be a man welcome back to the jeff port shoulder so talk whatever 65 they just stay with us on this tuesday boarding 25 was three four three zero one zero six is the tax line uh day number two of the artsy coming up here in milwaukee tonight uh we'll try to uh give you the best recap we can for uh um tomorrow's program uh so make sure you tune in uh tomorrow we are scheduled to have the joey clark and berry more from uh well joey clark from Montgomery but berry more from milwaukee i'll likely either be and far it's alabama in the shoals or in huntsville i haven't decided uh really but i'm making my way around the state here the next couple of days uh taking care of some 18 19 news business so uh we will be on the road but uh so far so good not phone wood uh two five one three four three zero one zero six um yeah fire dog and we could talk about that uh erased the fact that morning joey didn't pull it off air monday tells you what you need to know every you wiped out me even wiped out me that makes your median knew they had been over the line even craziness we seem to trust them to be on the air well it's just not the time to go out there with your your guns blazing it's a title it kind of back up guys it'd be like well you know baby right now is not the time to to give trump a few days led hit i mean he's got a bandage where he took a gunshot i mean he got lucky but i mean it was almost killed i put yourself in that circumstance where you what if you had almost but even had a bullet graze you put yourself in those circumstances you should even put a word out but you don't have millions of millions of supporters and it's saying an emotionless told as supporters i mean whatever you want to think of that it has it's just a bad look right now you got discretion is the better part of valor and you can't go full bore all the time but guys i am telling you jean and james i don't number one i i don't really understand why you listen to concerted talk radio i'm very appreciative that you do but why you participate in it in such a way other than it it gives you some kind of uh cathartic benefit i i don't i don't understand it but even the msmbc said hey like yeah we know he sucks but let's take a let's take a day off of uh of trump mashing tv it does trump get a day off only when somebody almost strives to kill him but he does get a day off third nigger to read the people support trump is like the song he tells it like it is people don't like hearing truth about government all the time all the money they tax us it should be heaven on earth but the democrats and government put us through hell i believe a god a jesus and trump they got our back auto what happened with jadie devance seat in the senate will the governor of ohio point someone in this place i don't ask your question jadie vances barely won that seat now well eight points i mean that's not barely let's get a break in here berry back this is if it's awkward oh six five from bucks pocket to the shores of orange beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on alabama politics it's the jeff poor show i don't think welcome back to the jeff poor show that from top one oh six five they just stay with us on this tuesday morning tech side will be in touch with the show all you do is text me two five one three four three zero one zero six that's how we communicate on the program uh still a come on the program uh alabama republican party chairman john wall will join us from milwaukee will kind of get his view of what's going on there uh talk about the mood uh it is really strange for me to watch about tv uh these things on tv right now but uh uh we'll get a little more from someone who is there but in the meantime i'm very pleased to bring on my next guest uh he's a former navy seal he runs uh a bunch of different things uh the shooters academy uh the the covenant rescue group but uh jared hudson uh joins us on the line jared good morning how are you good will do well thanks for coming on and i was listening to you my friend philliam's radio show yesterday i thought this this will be really a good uh a good segment for our audience but the way you kind of explained saturday and and try to figure all this out we're we're we're monday morning quarterbacking and all but it's it's a very it's a very uh unless you're there it's hard to really know the circumstances that led to why that happens with the uh tip of the assassination yeah yeah i mean that's that's the biggest thing i mean it's like you said you know monday morning quarterback and doesn't do anything for anybody obviously we all know now a guy was there to shoot the president because well i got shot at the president right um you know everything else that that you did you everything else that you do uh in these process you're trying to actually figure that out you don't actually tell it uh in the moment does that make sense so if i'm a i'm a sniper sniper instructor actually running training for east coast still teams right now um and you know as a as a shooter whether just a you know cat guy your counter salt team or whether you're on the cst counter sniper team for the seat first guys you're just trying to figure stuff out because the last thing you want to do is shoot somebody or hurt somebody that that doesn't need to be does that make sense yeah especially and i you know maybe it's different now for secret service but i mean think about this Jared other than other than uh the donald trump era of presidential politics i mean these big events he puts on and having to protect him with all these you know potentially thousands of people there has to present a lot of challenges did you give it yeah i guess i'll repeat what i said the trump era of politics that we're in right now the uh presidential politics where he has these massive events with thousands of people and where we are right now with all these people there bigger biggest presidential events we've had in a long time has to present a lot of different challenges to protecting the president uh well yeah i mean there's that you know and i'll be honest with you and it's just always any sort of close protection is always difficult again because you're trying to you want to mitigate the risk if something does happen but your goal is for something not to happen right so um and you put things in place in my opinion the biggest issue that you see with what's going on now let's say trump era politics is you have a system that is obviously against trump it's obviously against this man you know whether you like trump or not i don't think anybody can reasonably say the system the bureaucracy is not against him uh and and so when that happens you see things put in place where it's not necessarily that they you know plan to hurt the man you know like hey we've got this whole plan that we're going to take him out but they do things that lead to the ability for somebody to do this does that make sense just kind of like if i was to burn your house down then like i said well i really didn't burn your house down i just i just started a fire in your yard well yeah i started the fire in the yard that burned the house down so technically i i really did burn your house down but in reality well they're just kind of spread over again that's kind of what we see going on in my opinion we we kind of see the uh that the house is is being burned down but it's not being burned down by an actual act of light in the house on fire it's kind of tertiary because of the things that that we did off to the side and one of the big things is diabolic wrap that we see going on that has been the biggest detriment to our combat forces to the military uh to look at secret service right everybody sees the pictures in the videos pictures worth a thousand words uh and you see the same thing happening there you got some lady cheetah that's in charge of the secret service um never done anything yeah i'm sure she's a nice lady but she's emotionally doesn't like chumps so she's not going to give him what he needs and that's the biggest thing is there is a shortfall across the board on the amount of people that you would normally have on a high-profile event uh like like a trope rally so well the way i've been kind of like in ajared is it's like you'll lead your keys in the car with the windows down and it's sitting on your driveway and you wonder why your car got stolen like it's just the ground lathe is too fertile for something like this to happen and he maybe maybe it wasn't intentional maybe it was but there is sort of a bias there like you said especially government and i heard eric prince say this recently he's another uh for those who don't know eric prince is he's another still he's like a good girl with him the day he came the generation boy did and he uh started to accompany black water everybody's heard of black water right he was talking about this and and he he had to know on the head any private security company or any any uh private sector uh contractor anybody in that you know role as a private security professional that was running a security program white was running for president trump that day and to not get him off the exit it's more than just you know how did the guy get on the roof that guy actually that that can happen and i don't fault any of the snipers for that i just fault the administration for not having enough people in place to mitigate that but neither handle their the biggest thing is is they do not do the things they're supposed to in any private security company would be sued they would be sued for that lack of effort so again we see the bureaucracy we see the government we see the one reason the secret service exists and i'm sorry people say oh what the secret service uh yeah it was because that's your one job uh no i will say this president didn't get shot but that was the hand of god to protect him on that 100 percent uh because it wasn't it definitely wasn't anything that they did um to keep those rounds from uh ultimately hitting him in the in the air hitting in the head let me ask you this and i bet uh probably a hundred or so of these presidential political events to have a layer of secret service protection in my career and you do see like you know for a while nuking rich or but cars that are dead crews they all had secret service protection but i really want the footprint that the secret service protection of a president or even a former president in the like trump had is it possible the secret service right now there's like a lot of law enforcement is stretched very thin and you didn't have the b-team we didn't even have the c-team there you had a lower level d-team because this secret service is stretched so thin right now with presidential candidates vice president the first lady and so on no i mean so i don't know i mean i don't know i know some of the guys that are on that that uh operation i know some of the guys on the counter sniper team uh and they're solid they're solid dudes again i don't know if it's so much that there's any more a b and a team of b teams like the standard the training the the selection process uh is still the same but i say the selection process you know with uh take that with a grain of salt because the selection process is changed again it's the dei thing instead of having pipe hitters there do what pipe hitters do and that's fight and die to protect whatever you're just complete the mission right that's that's what i did is seal overseas that's what still do uh with with a lot of my buddies as contractors overseas we will literally die in complete the mission we won't come home to share families to complete the job when you don't have that anymore and that's part of the selection process is fun that individual when you don't have that anymore i think that's where you run into bigger issues um and then when you have the higher levels not necessarily making a call saying hey you can't you can't fire this shot that doesn't exist those guys work under compromise authorities so they fire the shot as soon as they see it uh seeing that there's a thread or a compromise in place um with that being said it's the uh it's the bureaucracy at the leadership level where you have a lot of dei things implemented to where they say uh put people in a position of leadership they don't need to be in i mean look at that game stand for well look at all these generals and admirals and all these two are supposedly supposed to be you know uh the the george patons of our era and they literally they literally couldn't lead a kindergarten uh field trip much less the u.s military in war in afghanistan right and it goes to show with what has happened to us in arach in afghanistan and it's the same thing with secret service uh you know those people get in charge they change the standard they change the selection process to the port we're so watered down there's no such things in ab or c-team everybody's the same everybody's equalist equity it's not it's not equality it's equity which means you can suck at your job but you're going to be put on par with me uh even though i don't suck in my job because of diversity equity and inclusion uh let me ask you another question about this the the shooter would be assassin uh now the late would be assassin from his perch where he was to where the president was standing how difficult of a shot was that uh you talking about for the to shoot him or for him to shoot the president either one but mostly to put him to hit hit the president now it looks like oh yeah counter snipers but he wasn't exactly using that kind of gear was he no i think he had a r-15 maybe with a red dot um i mean he did a good job using dead space using defellates uh where he called out on the roof i mean he was definitely in a position and i've got again talking to my buddies in the in the different uh on the different counter sniper teams there around the the president like they legitimately couldn't seem and when there were portions where they could seem they couldn't identify if it was him or if it was you know let's say a bird bouncing around on the roof would be one of the one the guy's told me just because it was you know so far he was hidden so well so he did a good job moving to the position as far as the shot that he took not a super difficult shot to make um necessarily but it is a difficult shot when you're you know he could definitely hear people pointing at him screaming at him uh obviously he's got income around he was shot at by the snipers uh a few times there was multiple shots taken out want to get too much into that because i don't know uh how much i can or can't say on that but i do know that uh kind of the way he was shot was because uh he took one round that calls him to sit up which allowed you know snipers from another side to actually be able to see him to engage him so with that being said um it wasn't a hard shot but at the same time again it was uh the kid pulled off a pretty a pretty good little uh pretty good little stalk and stalk and shoot uh and he almost had it he should have been able to hit that shot uh but again you know the lord seems to have protected trouble that day and then finally like i hear a lot of this but i i i tend to think a competency of government just makes me think it's not possible but that that this could have been an inside job and there were staying down orders i mean i i don't want to dabble too much in this realm but what do you think we do hear stuff like that no it's not true like i said earlier i mean it's real we work on compromise authority i mean as a law enforcement officer in the state of alabama you know i'm making a rest a sheriff a police chief can't tell me not to make an arrest or even better can't tell me not to shoot somebody who's an active shooter in the school uh the reason is is because in that position i'm the one who has to make this decision even as a special operation sniper in the still teams it's the same way i didn't have anybody telling me that i could or couldn't make a shot i made that decision and i would call it compromise authority whatever the compromise is based on our threat matrix dictates whether we shoot or not so all the stuff of i was told not to take the shot i mean look at the DMV they can't even get you in and out to get your tag in less than 30 minutes do you think the government can capitulate at that level it's not that they're that smart or that great at doing the farthest things it's through that dumb and that stupid they put dia stuff in place they're emotional with their decisions we don't like trump so they limit the security that's provided for them at the higher levels they limit and these are the type of things that happen when that goes down jerry i'll leave it there thank you so much for making time for us this morning i know you're very busy but uh best look to you let's talk for you it's more than this thanks brother have a good all right jared hudson there on on the program former navy seal uh we gotta get a break here be right back this is jeff or show it at the top one oh six five you knew when i fit up more than i could chew but through it all when there was no like a rhinestong cowboy riding out on a horse set of stars playing the rodeo like a rhinestong cowboy getting caught and let us call welcome back to the jeff or show that we're talking about oh six five nature staying with us on this Tuesday morning two five one three four three zero one zero six programming note uh we'll have tomorrow on the show joey clark from a new suck nine through one of mcgumery and uh congressman berry more from the second congressional district uh soon to be the first uh not all probability the first congressional district uh joining us tomorrow so stay and make sure you tune in for that say to john wall cut up in the next second minute or less uh something else it goes horribly wrong with the booking uh just a few decks gene i listened when i came because the other way i could find out how many crazy have ever politicians are and of course they affect us all and make alabama terrible well that's that's that's fine gene and i'm glad you listened why do you interact with the show the way you do and when i say that like jean the president's before president states seem to be that the future president united states at this point was almost killed and yet you can't help yourself with i mean like who does what kind of ghoul are you i'm gonna say that to like him i'm just questioning like what what causes you on uh two two three days after an assassination the tip to text into this program with the put downs with the uh criticisms why not take it don't take a few days off let the let the temperature in a room pulled out a little and then uh jump right in like it's uh royal rumble 49 or whatever uh let's see here jason jett the early favorite replace vance's vivec solid choice uh well i don't know what you're referring to there jason big ears and this guy confirmed whether or not the sniper who took the guy out was charged and arrested after he took out the shooter or is that a conspiracy theory i have not heard that uh joe we killed dear deer stands at that distance all the time a name text or since me a screenshot of a text why does it the msm reflect on all the incendiary rhetoric of uh from all democrats taking top trump out a lakein project saying only way to stop trump is by pulling a bullet in trump tons of youtube footage when dibs can't get their way they're on h h file or shoot up softball fields or spread supreme court justices and then try to take trump out democrats have a huge problem they have a weak candidate in trump's cases keep dropping life lies and he's stronger than ever i mean i i don't know what they got to run on other than trump bad but like a lot of people look at that they think is he really as bad as as they say is he you know is democracy gonna end it's trump gonna be a dictator and we're just gonna take the constitution walk it over to the shredder and uh now that he wins a presidential election we're gonna form the first galactic republic or the first galactic empire of the donald trump era it's it's it's it's hyperbole and maybe you could get people to believe that initially but at a certain point people start to kind of not buy it they you get desensitized to it and you start thinking well maybe i've been lied to this whole time and it doesn't work as well as it used to if that makes sense yeah i would democrats have a good hand they overplay it every single time republicans are playing this hand at all but i mean who knows what's going through republicans heads right now we'll be right back this is the jeff pore shoulder for talk what is this one then it cradges south of nashfield and it turned that car around he said this is where you get off boy because i'm going back to out of there as i stepped out of that Cadillac i said mr many things he said you don't have to call me mr mr the whole world called behind he said looking back to the jeff pore show it up at top 106-5 they just stick it around on this tuesday morning 25 13 4 3 0 1 0 6 time permitting we'll get to your text if there's any left of jean and james don't have another gripe about our state of politics anyway joining us here from milwaukee i've always a pleasure to introduce almighty republican party chairman john wall to the program chairman good morning how are you oh good morning it's good to be on the show hey thanks for making time i do appreciate it well what's the vibe now this is chairman then this is the first one i have not been to first republican convention since 2000 and i've been watching it on tv which is kind of unique to me it feels it feels a little flat on tv but i mean typically how these first nights go they're not the most boisterous of the convention well what's sort of the what's sort of the mood there you know i and i think it probably is just because it is earring on tv because i'll tell you when when donald trump's um video feed went to him entering the building that room was electric i'm just a patch of people crying um you know people screaming there's there is a lot of energy um in this dimension i it's a little bit sober you know there's definitely a a little bit of a cloud still hanging over from what happened you know up in pennsylvania and and not just for donald trump and his family but also for the other victims um you know it's something that's been mentioned a lot um a lot of prayers for them and just you know a lot of respect there but we also i mean donald trump has been very clear he does not want that to overshadow that what the convention should be all about which is about us as a republican party and him as our nominee communicating with the american people will our values what we believe in and why those values best represent the people of american and help them have a happier safer and more successful life something else that occurs to me kind of watching that and i want to hear what you you got to say though watching donald trump on tv and and then you know he always appears kind of uh a super human but for the first time there seemed to be sort of um i don't say vulnerable but he felt a little uh he did feel like a little bit of a swagger wasn't there more uh somber if he would i i would agree and you know and look we all watched that video uh when when he when he was shot and you go to the ground and and then you know in that moment we really did see the humanity of donald trump um and then and then we saw a secret service you know jump on and and circle on him and then we saw him try to break free and we saw that that boldness and that that leadership and it really is leadership i don't know we had a pre i don't think we've had a president who who has that kind of that kind of guts and that kind of that kind of spirit since teddy roosevelt um just to be that like fighting to get away from secret service to communicate with the crowd that he was all right and to stay strong um that's whether you love donald trump or you hate him you have got to respect that and see that leadership um but i think you're right as i watch the video you know as he walked into the stadium and and walked up and sat down and then and then listened to the stories um you know from the from the speakers afterwards you see there's been a change in his spirit there's been a little change attitude and i think it's healthy i think it's actually a good thing um because he's still that bold leader he's still that strong leader but it also has a look i think he's got a little more humanity um after going through you know that i mean let's be honest at near-death experience um it's going to change you and i think it has changed donald trump for the better some of my bread bar colleagues who are there told me this um that for the you know probably have attended hundreds of these conservative gatherings from r and c's to c-packs to you know whatever else faith and freedom uh afp etc for the first time there's really like an optimistic that you're not optimism you're not playing from behind that you get to wind it to yourself probably since for the first time since probably that two thousand four convention in new york do you get that sense i do um but look we also need to be honest about this we're not the only one to feel it the the democrats feel it the mainstream media feels that it's why they're panicking right now um the republican party is united we have our candidate we know the values we believe in and more importantly the politics here we know we're in a battle for the heart and the soul of this country this election cycle it's not about political parties or political battle this is a battle between light and darkness um and but and freedom is on the ballot this november and that realization um for us of how important this is and and us be united the democrats feel the same thing they see their indivision they're they're having trouble they know that they're windows in the republican sales um and it's because of their bad policies like let's be honest about this the democrats have wasted so many opportunities to try to do the right thing um but i think that's what you're seeing you're seeing you're seeing they're so desperate to take Donald Trump out whether it's the rushing conspiracy whether it's constantly villainizing him uh through the media or the court system or wherever it is they're trying anything to stop him because right now right now he's unstoppable what do you think about the cuz chairman since the the january six episode in 2021 it just feels like body blue after body blue after body blue leveled on republicans or republican causes or republican policies nationally maybe not locally but certainly nationally but here in the last month we've had the what we what we've been saying all along about joe biden in debate some of this law fair stuff is starting to crumble apart uh the trump gets a little steve and then this happens unfortunately what happens but it turns out to be a positive politically it's it's probably at least to me it feels a little strange to be kind of on the winning side all of a sudden well and there's still a lot of time left but like look this is still going to be a far pop battle and at some point the mainstream media and the democrat party are gonna get their act together they're gonna they're gonna fully get behind their candidate whoever whether that's joe biden or whether they try to try to bring someone else in and they're going to get united they're it's going to be a fight this is not going to be easy um but yes right now it is very clear um and i and i hate to look at the tragedy in pennsylvania through a political lens um because i think i think the more important message out of this and and what i really really hope that that the american people can internalize and and the mainstream media because they need to internalize this more than more than anyone you can't throw non-stop insults and undermine people's character and and trash them and villainize them the way they have Donald trump and not expected to incite people and if we're honest whether you're republican whether you're a democrat whether you're independent we should all be looking for the same thing and that's helping the american people be secure in their liberty and the freedoms be happier healthier more successful and lead them and have a brighter future for their children and if that's our goal um whatever party then all we should be doing is debating which issues which policies get us there faster and i think that's what we have got to try to do is to bring that back into perspective joined by a member republican party chairman john wall has called us in from billocuous constant and the other part of this and and this is just me speaking last night watching in i told you it felt a little flat on tv but uh i would and i don't know if this would be appropriate or not but but in this kind of curious they didn't speak a whole lot the speakers didn't about the elephant in the war room they're talking about the assassination they didn't spin i mean they spent a lot of time on democratic party policies and those being bad but they didn't really go for the jugular on this assassination attempt and and i i don't know what the right approach would have been but i was a little a little surprised by that you know there's been a lot of talk about that um here and i think it's because it's a democrat way to to go after personality do after you know a crisis or something the republican model and i'm not always saying it's the best thing to do politically but i think it is the right thing is we want to talk about policy we want to talk about values and we want to talk about why those policies why those values matter and and that's that's been something Donald trumpets has said you know that's what he wants this to be about he wants he wants this to be about the making the american people's lives better like that's the key that's what this is about you know last night's theme was make america wealthy once again and we want that for the american people we want the american people to be able to afford groceries we want them to be able to to be safe in their community so that because people are flooding across the southern border we want a strong national security that keeps us safe on a global scale and we want to keep our children safe from a woke agenda coming out of a federal department of education that has completely lost touch with american parents the other thing i thought was a little surprising after the big moment with trump and coming out the the and i i understand why you want to put him in a prominent role with showcasing but i i wasn't crazy about the teamster president and especially the messaging in the length of the speech uh i don't know that's appropriate for it r and c but i i certainly understand why you would elevate that that's a big coup against democrats and they will readily acknowledge that to ask somebody to like that at your convention it is it is still it's well it's still i was gonna say it's still a little bit weird that you you have an open democrat on stage at the republican national convention um like i i get it it's it is a big coup and it's important and i think i think it also shows i think it also shows how bad democrat policy is um the modern democrat the national modern democrat party is completely out of control and have completely lost touch with the american people um and i think we're gonna see these things increase over the next few years if the democrats stay on the same radical rhetoric um so so i understand the concept understand why it was good but i i tend to agree with you i don't know that that was the right form for it because i think the convention should be about republican leaders sharing our values of our views with the american public um so i pros and cons to everything but i i agree with you that it was an interesting choice yeah i i don't know where i would have put that i certainly would have tried to work it in but uh this is like when the the country you got the prime time opportunity to really drive your message home and we're kind of talking big labor issues and and and big labor and and not necessarily conservative um but maybe that's the maybe that and maybe this is it it's just just a brand that the republican party in in 2024 is aiming for yeah no i i mean it's also about the fact that we want to we you know we want to bring um we want to break the big tent and we want to we want people who are struggling to make ends meet and maybe view themselves traditionally democrats we want them to be able to be comfortable voting republican um and i think that's that's something we're going to see the cycle in a lot of these swing states we're going to see people who have never voted republican before vote republican and that that is a good that is is good for the future of this country you saw that with Ronald Reagan i think this is very possible this is going to be a more of a Ronald Reagan type year where where you see an overwhelming response from democrats who are we're struggling with what the democrat party has become the jd van selection i i'm i'm i guess i'm okay with that i i don't i don't really have strong feelings about him one way or another uh he definitely leans into the maga sort of brand and his writings reflect that and then this is what i tell people in this show especially people that don't really understand the whole trump phenomenon but that's where it comes from it comes from the forgotten guy in west Virginia and Ohio and the mid west and the rust belt or wherever and this is like this is why Donald trump succeeds in this political environment no that's absolutely right and and i for one am extremely excited about jd van i think of the choices of the of the kind of the final choices that were out there i think he was the most conservative choice i i think he brings a very different perspective he's only 39 years old um he's young but he's not afraid to be a bold conservative i also like the choices he's made why he's been in the senate and and the staff he chose to hire you have so much of her so so much of the of these dc senate offices um are made up because of who who does a person hire how does the staff look in jd van's hired extremely conservative staff the staff that we're willing to fight and that gives me hope for the future i think i think we see a we have a young bold leader who um it's going to communicate well and and hopefully give us a chance to to speak directly to some young voters out there um i'll tell you this i am looking forward to the device uh the vice presidential debate between him and Kamala Harris i hope that happens as you'll see assuming there is one i i don't know what i give that but you're right uh she's just not in it we we could talk about this i mean she's just never really impressed me uh when she had her chance in 2020 and she had to lead in the polls i mean she's kind of sat on it and squandered it so i i think jd van's kind of she's outmatched there uh agreed i think she's going to have a very hard time um you know very hard time going up against him and i i think he's going to be able to to talk about issues from from from a perspective as as a younger uh a younger person with a family talking to younger voters out there who are struggling to provide for the families and telling them look i'm in your shoes um and i'm a businessman i know how to fix the economy so you can put on the table um and that's that's the perspective we need um right now here in america last question we'll get you out of here on this and this will be talking about all day are on the show all morning what and i i don't want to i'm not saying that republicans should be overconfident or anything like that but just from a Biden perspective why can he do at this point what do they have left i don't think there's anything that joe biden can do to get to to to make up the gap here and and this is what called the market what i're talking about how many states now are in play as of today that republicans could get versus where they were maybe a month or two ago yeah i know it's incredible i mean i know for ging is down on the table um i was joking with the chairman of delaware she's like delaware is on the table we can win delaware and and she said that tongue in cheek because all of you see delaware is going to be very hard almost impossible is joe biden's home state um but no this there are so many opportunities in this election cycle and there's so much frustration with the policy of the democrat party and i hope and i pray that the american people see that failure but more importantly see the chance to restore freedom liberty and try to restore america because this is this country's the greatest greatest experience greatest governmental experiment in the history of this world and let's not squander the chance of the panic policy of us chairman thanks for making time for us so we'll do another kind of post uh mornum uh next week i will look forward to it always good to be on the show chairman john wall day i've had a republican party we're right back this is after talk what is six five let's yeah go to jackson you big talkin man and i'll be waiting in jackson behind my japan player you come again just what i'm about to make it work without you you look into my eyes and lie those quick lies and pretty soon i'm wondering how i came to that you're all you gotta do welcome back to the japanese show it up and talk one of six five come up on tomorrow's program joe carte from newstalk 93 one in montgomery and congressman berry borer will be with us uh looks like you may stay tuned for uh uh mid-day mobile but uh any moment now the verdict in the men and death trial will be read they have reached the verdict in his corruption trial so we'll see what that entails uh anyway uh let's see do we have any text i want to get to uh not really uh tim jeff you'd have to admit trump has got a set wow that's a graphic and vulgar uh squirrel come all will keep up our tricks saying i'm speaking just to give the craziest twitter something to quote yeah i want to remember from the vdp debate of 2020 that and the fly uh fair enough all right uh come up here certainly mid-day mobile shall solve it take it away well a couple things first of all just uh i sure hope i don't think it would happen but advanced versus hairless vp debate would be delicious i think it'd be fantastic i don't think it's happening either no i guess it's not going to happen and on the menendez thing yeah so we're waiting they said the uh the verdict is now being read in the menendez trial you know it's really not bob it's nadine remember what his authority said i don't know people i have some strange fascination with the you know we got from new jersey but uh because it's over the top uh guilty yeah is it guilty guilty of conspiracy and bribery oh well maybe this time they'll get you remember last time what happened last time yeah so last time i even yeah so maybe this time is different i but he remember his attorney saying well it wouldn't him it wouldn't bob it was his wife he was he was doing right it was just his wife nadine was making these deals it wasn't the you know senator so um yeah so they're coming up uh asked the sheriff mobile county sheriff paul birch is going to be my guest also april mary fogle and alabama secretary state west allen that and a whole lot more coming up on mid-day mobile a lot of reasons for you to stay tuned to that well uh we'll see where this menendez uh goes stock goes he's a good guy come on come on it feels it feels so page two right now it's his wife you know yes it is page two you're right yeah any other news cycle this will be screaming headlines but here we are in america on july 16 2020 which means i gotta get out of here guys i will try to do better tomorrow for wherever i am sorry phyllis i forgot to say goodbye this has been the jeep horseshoe on a flip talk one oh six five