Have you ever been asked to do something and because it felt stupid you didn't really give it a full effort? Our guest, John Toups, calls this action Malicious Obedience. 
John is focused on driving safety, productivity, and employee engagement at companies like Exxon, Shell, and Suncor. In this discussion, we dive into some of the practices that he's used to engage teams within the construction industry to drive those outcomes. It's a fascinating topic!
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