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Geekscape 409: We Get Abducted By 'Venus' The Movie!

Filmmaker Canyon Prince is a long time Geekscape friend and guest and now he's got another movie going into production: the female-led Science Fiction road film 'Venus'! Along for the ride are producer and lead Elizabeth Cron and actress Brittaney Morrison (be careful on the pronunciation)! We talk about putting the film together, what makes this different than other alien movies and look forward to the film's Indiegogo campaign! This is one you'll definitely want to be a part of! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:: 48m
Broadcast on:: 04 May 2016
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I hope you've been recommending this stuff to your friends. I hope you have been writing little reviews on iTunes or whatever and giving us five stars. That stuff really helps, especially again, going into con season where maybe you're going to San Diego and maybe you see somebody that you're like, you know what? Yeah, I just got their autograph, but I want to learn a little more about this person and I want to get that special Geekscape flavor of interviewing on that. So tell people to come on Geekscape, you know, tweet at them. If you see them at conventions, you know, follow them to their hotel room and tell them that this will only stop if you go on Geekscape. The stalking will only stop if you go on Geekscape, threaten them. I'm kidding, I'm not gonna, okay, we got it. Kenny Craig is out today, but it's okay. Ken is here and Elizabeth is here in Brittany. I'm Southern, so sometimes Brittany, I'm going to roll with the Brittany. Brittany, this girl Brittany here, but I mean in my heart of illiterate hearts. Brittany, Brittany, I just don't slow down enough. It's like a fucking speed bump to be like Brittany, right? No, I do two solos. Brittany. Brittany. That's okay, I've had people call me Bernie. Bernie, well, well, I don't think you're much danger today, but maybe we'll see how it goes. Sometimes I call it BSOS. BSOS, BSOS, BSOS, okay. BMO, BMO, BMO, BMO. BMO, like in Adventure Time? Yeah, Brittany, BMOOR. Now, Kang into Director, I'm guessing Brittany, you are in the cast of one of Kang in the upcoming projects. That's not an actual directing technique that you use with her, is it? Well, let's do it again, but this time BMOOR. Yeah. Can we just make her a shirt and she has to wear it on set when she's not on camera? I've heard some horrible directing techniques. I've heard some abusive directing techniques. And I think that's somewhere in the middle. You know, it's okay, it's all right. It's all right. You know what, if it's a wrist slap, it's 2am, we've got 10 minutes left. BMOOR. They're already loading the trucks, we've got one more shot to get, and we're all waiting up, Brittany, to get some sleep. You know what, the BMOOR shirt might just come out, all right? Beats the BMOOR bat, which you'll have several weeks in the production. Or it just has nails in it. Yeah, I have done squirt guns before. We can get the fuck out of this. But you use on cats. Yeah, shoot the actors in the face, and I'm like, BMOOR. Look, hey, something distracting you, I'm sorry. I was expecting you to emote like a human being. I'm so scared now she's doing like a fake laugh. I can't keep us preparing yourself because when Kang and I get together, the last time I saw them I was at my birthday. We just talk filmmaking, we kind of go off the rails. And I love Kang and because I'm going to talk about you in the third person. You're going to fucking stand there and take it. What I love about Kang and is, if you guys are longtime geeks, listeners, you remember that Kang and Kang on the show? I was like, I'm going to raise $3 and go make a movie. And he did it. And he made a very good movie, and I loved it. And now he's like, you know what, I raised $6. And I'm going to go make a movie called Venus, and not only is this not going to be a drama as the last one was, but this one's going to be an alien movie. So we're going to add sci-fi elements to it, and all I hear is production values. And I'm like, oh, okay. That's a slow clap. And I'm like, dude, in all honesty, I'm being sarcastic, but if I have any faith in anybody actually doing that stuff, it's this man right here. So I'm glad to talk to him about this new project Venus, which you first told me about. I guess at my birthday, you were like, I'm thinking about doing this alien thing. Did we talk about it when we went out for lunch? I don't recall going out to lunch. When you have it, when you actually just ate it. You've grown a giant beard, though. So like, you're like a hobo right now. Okay, so I paid for lunch. It was not a hobo guy. When did we go to hammers? I don't recall that at all. Yeah, it was right after you found out about the warring thing. Yeah, but before that, it started. Okay, so it was almost exactly a year ago. It sounds quite right. All right, all right. Yeah, you may have mentioned it. I don't recall it, but I do know that at my birthday, you said, hey, I'm going to be doing this alien movie. Elizabeth's going to be a part of it. We're excited. Might invite this girl, Brittany, to be in it, but we don't know yet. Audition was soft. His word's not mine. And yeah, I was like, dude, I have faith in you. And whatever support you need, you let me know. I know you're going to be shooting at the fucking desert somewhere. We are. Yeah. So you just got back from New Mexico. We were location scouting for a week. How'd it go? It went great. It was a lot of fun. It was kind of, we went through PTSD when we came back to LA. Yeah, there's a lot of, yeah, it's, which makes me a little nervous. How proud you were. Like the film is even worse when you make a movie. What do you mean? Just, you know, you're out there for, well, let's say for, for this project. It's three or four weeks. Yeah, for the actual filming, but then everything prior to that was leading up to that. And then, you know, you're running on all cylinders and, you know, shooting 16 hour days or whatever. And then you come home and it's just. It's gone. Yeah. It's like, what do I do? You know, all your friends are busy and it's, it's, it's a, it's a dark time. So, um, I, yeah. And you think that that's an external thing, but I really do think that it comes from that deflation of just being like, uh, really what you, like you said, going 150 miles an hour. And then it's like, okay, now I'm back to 10 miles an hour. Aren't you glad that like, you're not going back to like a small town? You're coming back to LA where things actually move. So it's okay. You know, you can get back up to speed. My mom, uh, recently moved to new Santa Fe. Okay. And there's a, uh, a town called Lamey. And it's just outside of Santa Fe. And I was going to take the train out there in a few weeks because I wrote a movie that also takes place out in the West. Um, is this the one about the guy with the dog? Coach and stuff. No, this one is about, uh, it's just dog movie. Okay. Like guys, if you listen to Geekscape, you know how much I love dogs. Dogs have been with Geekscape the entire day, but it's like, okay. An actor, a dog in the American West. Very epic. Like vistas, right? And beautiful shots, but I might take the train out there. Like I might not drive. I might take the train out there and just put it together. Right? Spend some time with my mom. Uh, but there's nothing fucking out there. Yeah. Like there's nothing out there. And so I think you're looking at the juxtaposition between crowded LA. Mm hmm. Fresh air. Yet. Having to go 150 miles an hour. Yeah. And you're generating things. Like here's the thing with filmmaking, guys. You're generating something that I started talking about called the creative metabolism. Right? And you have to feed it. You have to watch stuff. You have to read stuff. You have to look at stuff. You have to feed this creative metabolism because when you are shooting or you are writing, you are throwing this stuff out so fast and furiously that it's physically draining. And I don't think my wife had an appreciation for it until she started. I literally, guys, I've been with her 10 years, 11 years. She just read my treatment. Anything I've written. She just read it like this weekend. Nice. It's the first time I've ever read anything. Right. Well, there's a dog involved and she's a dog trainer. Yeah. So I was like, "Hey, what's the story with this guy? What can we add?" And I think when she read it, she was like, "Oh, I get it." And like she sees my face when I come in from running and she's like, "Oh, I get it." I still don't know what the fuck you did all day, but you're exhausted at the end of the day. Well, she's like, "Thank God that you were a decent writer." Yeah. No, she's very happy with it. She's like, "Oh, at least he doesn't fucking suck." And my last feature script, which I think the one you're talking about, he got some good response so it hopefully can get something moving, but she still has not ran a lot to read that. Yeah. And the people have read it like this. So I don't think I'm bad. I just think... I try to make movies that aren't... It's always tricky. I feel like you never get... Cause I remember you told me when you went to see "Heart Sun," you're like, "Now I'm going to see my buddy's movie. I hope it doesn't suck, but if it doesn't, I'll just be like, "Hey, yeah." You made a movie. And it didn't suck. "Heart Sun" did not suck. You know? Where can people watch that? Because we saw... "Heart Sun" is on Amazon, Amazon Prime, Mgo. It's on... What? Mgo. It's... Oh, it does. Okay. And it just got acquired by somebody and they're changing the name. But it's another platform. Yeah. I don't know if it's a great name. Like all these... M-G-G-G. Right. So you're saying the whole consolidation that happened that formed Hulu may... You know, those contracts are kind of to go and some people are bailing on it or... You know, you criterion is bailing on Hulu. Like they're criterion starting their own streaming thing. And now you're starting to see it and be like, "Hey, why don't we start the next thing and the next thing? What are you doing until something works and this permanent and becomes the iTunes for movies?" Yeah. Especially with Apple, the new Apple TV now and you can make your own apps and stuff. It's really gonna... So Mgo. Mgo. Mgo. It's not just in Canada? I forget what they're changing their name too. I want to say it was started by DreamWorks. Sure. Sony and a couple of guys. And DreamWorks just got bought by... Oh, DreamWorks Animation. About like... Yeah. Universal. So it's like, "Oh, great." Yeah. More card shifting. We don't know where our movie is anymore. It's tough. Let's talk a little bit about it. Were you part of the creative process of making this movie? I mean, I know you guys are collaborators. Yeah. Yeah, very much so. The project actually started off by me wanting to just go road tripping. And I said, "Hey, Ken, and you can hold the camera and shoot me while I say things about national parks." Fucking home movie. Well, yeah, right? We don't do anything, Ken. I've had that conversation. Is that what it came out? I'd be like, "We don't do anything. We don't go anywhere. We're here and you write your fucking scripts. We don't do it. I don't want to watch a movie." Kind of like that. It's kind of like that. You're going a beard. I want to see the world. I love Docs. I love documentaries. I love the whole thing there. But he's a narrative person. So I said, "Hey, like, let's go do this Doc stuff." And he said, "Only if I get to shoot a narrative at the same time." So I said, "Okay, fine. What do you want to do? It'll be you, me, and we'll have another guy. We didn't get anywhere with the plot." Right. And so finally, we said, "Why don't we make it about three girls that go on a road trip? All of a sudden, the idea..." You fucking sly dog, you. Yeah, it came at, well, it was quite the fun. I don't know. Well, it actually, so we had started the story we knew, "Okay, it's going to be these people that go on a road trip along the extraterrestrial highway." Oh, okay. In Nevada. And that's a thing. Yeah. Real life. It's a real section of a highway. What's the highway number? But it's not Route 66. It's like it's on thing. Right. So it's like it goes through... No, it's not 66. It goes through Area 51. A town of Rachel and stuff. So we're like, "Yeah, it's two guys and a girl, and it was going to be her." And most likely, my buddy Philip and... Maybe Brittany. No, Brittany wasn't. No, Brittany wasn't. I didn't know she existed. There wasn't another girl. It was just Elizabeth. Yeah. And then I was toying around with maybe being the other person. But then I was like, "Oh, well, we'll probably just have a sound guy, and that's it. So then I'd have to film it." So we worked out a little bit of the script, and it just wasn't working. And then we were up at Carmel Film Fest, and we were out to Sushi, and we'd been trying to figure out, you know, crack this story. And I think it was her who was like, "What if it's three girls?" And we kind of just sat there for a minute and was like, "You know what? It could work." And then all of a sudden, all of the pieces started flowing together. It was good sockey and good sushi. So it was flowing. It was good. Well, we're going to stop here for a station ID. Is that cool? Just... And when we get back, Geeks gave us, we're going to talk a little bit more about Venus. We will unlock the mystery of Brittany, and get her talking, and we'll find out a little bit more about it. Hang with us. We'll be right back. Hey, Geeks, Geeks, we're back. And the entire time Brittany is like staring at me like, "I don't know what you expect from me. I just know I'm part of this project, and I know that Kang-in likes hanging out. And I'm part of this Venus thing. And I personally, Jonathan, don't know what role you play in this whole project. You know, we've got to produce her an actress over here. That's right. Go writer. Yeah. Keep better here. I get a story credit. You son of a... She gets a WGA story credit. Okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. All right. So you're going to fill a union on this thing. Itch. We're picking. Right. We're going to writer's guild. Probably not. DGA that I wanted to. Of course. Yeah. That's where we're at now. In this girl, Brittany. Yeah. Brittany. Brittany. What are you doing in this movie? I play Hannah. What is this? That is Evie's sister. Okay. And she's kind of like the one who likes the hair, the makeup, not so much the dessert. Desert. Yeah. Yeah. Well, what's the justification for your character being on this trip? It's like, well, I mean, what's the impetus for this trip? First off, the inciting incident, my friend. What is the whole impetus on that on going on with that? Well, it depends what we're talking about. Are we talking about draft one or draft two that's being written right now? I was talking about draft two. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're still writing the script. I'll read it. Okay. No, the script... The script's done, but... It's done. It runs a bag. It's done. We just had our table read on. It's done. Yeah. We've got to make it. We're polishing it. Yeah. Perfect. So there's a third girl, a friend. We're sisters. We're playing sisters. So Hannah and Evie are the sisters. And then the third girl, Becca, is all about the boys and the booze and the let's go to this star party and hang out and all this and third person. Third. Yeah. They're best friends. Yeah, she does. Becca and Hannah. They're best friends. They say, "Come on, Evie. Let's do it." By the way, it's right by the extraterrestrial highway, which Evie's like, "Oh my God." Are you kidding me? Awesome. Yes. Let's do it. So Evie's like the alien nerd. Right. And she's like, "Well, yeah. I'll do it. But just as long as we get to go to the extraterrestrial highway and see some gosh darn aliens." And so there they go. Pack their bags and they're off. And you go along with this because there's a party in the party. In the party. Right. Yeah. The party. The boys. Possible cowboys. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe you promise these kids. Maybe you promise them. Well, we just got back from the slippers. And so yeah. We're trying to find Britt to me a cowboy now, a single available cowboy. Oh. Can we open her up to the geekscapes? Yeah, sure. You're like, "I watch a lot of cowboy bebop." That kind of counts. I mean, for Evie it counts. Yeah. I dig that. Hey, there we go. And I mean, we're talking about, when you said like, she's kind of like the alien geek. She's into this stuff. And I'm like, "Well, I don't think we have a movie." You know what I mean? Yeah. Because it's like not believable. But now with Comic Con and cosplay and really like ladies have come out in full force to embrace this culture, which I think they've always been a fan of. Right. Can't speak for them. But I feel like they've always been a fan of it. They didn't seem like a fan of it while I was trying to date in high school. Yeah. And the only thing I had was my knowledge of comics, but it seems to have turned that way. Is that something like you're really into, Elizabeth? Like you're like, really? For me, it's the road. Right. Honest to goodness, it is the open road. And actually, there was a thing that I was researching when I was road tripping because I've been back and forth the United States more than a dozen times in a car driving. Why? Because I don't know. I like it. It's beautiful. You know, everybody's like, "Go out of the country, travel, see things. Go to your country, travel and see things." You know, it's so diverse here and it's amazing. But I was doing some research in Nevada and thinking about going through the extraterrestrial highway. And again, this was maybe 10 years ago or so. Nevada had this tourism thing where you could actually collect stamps from all these little towns along the extraterrestrial highway. It was an alien theme. It was an alien theme whole thing. There's one place called the Little Alien, which is an inn. The Little Alien Inn. Oh, got it. Yeah. So, but now when we went and we scouted back in fall, I was like trying to contact Nevada tourism. No response. Yeah. It'd be great to have them on your side to be like, "Hey, we'll open the doors and all these things because we're doing a giant love letter to us." And then we went and half the buildings were half of buildings. I mean, everything is falling down. Yeah. There's nothing out there. The aliens attacked. I think something happened. It was like Independence Day. Yeah. Mars attacked or something. I don't know what happened. But, you know, the towns aren't out there anymore. There's no possible way. Like, your springs was one of the places that you had to get a little stamp and have a receipt and there's just no- Nobody's stamp it for you. Nobody there. I mean, there's some angry alien cows. You asked for this. You were like, "Hey, who stamps this thing? Where's the stamp head from?" Like 1955? Something. Yeah. This is a physical thing that you can get, the stamp head, the stamp thing. It used to be. Yeah, 10 years ago when people were actually going out to these parts. It's disappointing. Now you can't. Because, like, that's like nerd McDonald's, "What's the game you play?" Monopoly. Yeah. Like, "I want to do that." Yeah. Yeah. Like, "I want to do that." Like, I don't have a lot of interest in the whole alien thing. You know, I get it. It's cool. And I think, but I have OCD. So I would be the person who would get, like, every stamp. And then when I found out that that fucking half town doesn't have a stamp, I'd lose my damn mind. I would make a stamp. Yeah. And that stamp would be in blood for the people who took that town from us. The cow's blood. At least you get some alien-ish jerky. How many legs do those cows have? Do they have, like, four? Do they have normal cows? They all have, yeah. They have four. Brittany. Yeah. And they're really cute. It's so hard for me to slow down enough to save your name properly. Because Brittany, so Brittany. Yes. What's that possible? You could say Brit. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. You would say. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. If you'd like. You would say. I'm a very opener. I feel like. And you learn a lot about the different people that live there. And you kind of want to take some of that along with you. All the ones that don't. Yeah. And you're an alley actress. Yeah. From where? Originally. From Ontario, California. Oh, so it's like. Yeah. You know the middle of nowhere. Like, that's Ontario. Yeah. Like, Ontario's out on the 60, though, right? Like, that's like out on the 10 or something. Like, it's. What the fuck is Ontario? Like, it's out east, right? But not. But it's like, it's like, in the Empire, right? Yeah. Okay. If you need a math expert, you got a bird to me. Yeah. And so. So you come here and you're doing this acting thing. And now these assholes are going to drag you back out in the desert. You're like the desert expert for them. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. The white sand expert. Oh, did you guys do white sand? White sand is awesome, right? It's pretty amazing. It did. Oh, we did the whole sledding thing. And it was great. Because as soon as we pulled up, we saw people returning their sleds and I was like, that's a thing. Let's go sledding. Done. Done that drive a bit. My mom used to live near there. And that's also where they buried all those damn E.T. cartridges out there by white sands and lust cruises and all that in El Magordo, like that is where they had that whole crate or case of E.T. Atari cartridges and they buried them out in the middle of nowhere. It's like the worst video game ever made. It didn't sell the E.T. video game for Atari. But it was so cute. It was a total piece of garbage. It didn't sell. And Atari looked up and had the worst game ever on their hands and it wasn't selling. And so they went and they put them all in a landfill. And it's one of the most, you know, it's one of the most famous geek, like Ark or the Covenant stories ever. It's like, you might have to steal that and go look for it in a minute. Yeah, I think we're going to go find that. Did you? Yes. Yeah, you put it in there. There's a documentary that like Zach Penn, one of the writers from like X-Men and stuff, like Zach Penn did a documentary on it. There's some news stories like they did excavate the Atari like cartridges like because you had to find out like where this kind of thing was buried. You have to go back and do a little bit of archaeology because I guess they don't just go into the landfill and dump shit. They do it by lots like you would do on like a development, right? You would sell lots and so they have to go back and be like, well, what lot would we have dumped all those Atari cartoons in in 1981 or two or three or whatever and like where would it be? They'd go back and go through all the records, which were all paper, there's no computer any of this and they had to go through this this this tome and say, okay, well, it could either be here or there. It's going to be kind of expensive to go out there and dig stuff up because there's stuff on top of it and around it. Right. It might have caved in when the stuff starts falling apart, the soil falls in and so this is pretty cool. I thought it was fascinating. Yeah. And that's what... Was it just the ET game? I will not spoil it for you. But they were all looking for the cartridges to the ET game and there were hundreds or thousands of them and you may want to maybe that's in the script like, you know, it does hang out with the alien thing, you know, and it's in there and are you going to film this or are you going to be the DP on this thing or are you going to bring it up? Deepy's a buddy of mine named Mike Sue and he's going to be the DP, I'll be directing it. Okay. Maybe a cameo? Yeah. And these actors and directors, but you can't help it, can you? They're really pushing me to play this one. This one role. He wrote specifically for himself because he described the person as a bearded trucker. So let's just go ahead and pretend that you wrote it for somebody else. Are you old enough to play this? You're like underneath the hair, you're like still a pretty young and, you know, handsome dude. Well, thank you. I keep the hair and the beard for the role, you know? Yeah, you got to be like, yeah, you got to be dark man, like you're going to pull that cap down. Yeah. You know, and there's a, like he's an ominous kind of character. Well, the problem is he's ominous and then he's, he's revealed to be friendly. Originally, there was, there was two characters that myself as a producer combined into one, which is this role. But the, what used to be the second character, which is now this character Jackson gets butt, butt ass naked. Oh. So ladies, I'm going to get butt ass naked. Okay. There's your writing credit. Yeah, right. She's like, let's see that thing. Let's see it. Bring it out. How many? Let's do it. Now, listen for the geek, you know, not my own interest, the geek. Is there female nudity perhaps in this movie? There it, um, be very critical. I think the technical term is implied nudity. Yeah. Get the fuck out. I tried guys. I tried. The geek scape is a tried because, you know what, if there's one thing that you guys need, it's another damn alien movie on your shelves. All right, geeks, butt on your hard drives. I know what lurks on there and I tried to add to that collection too. I'm trying geek scape. I'm sorry. No, Brittany has a thing for, for showing her butt. So. Oh. Okay. We're heating back up. We're heating. You know what? The geek scape is her back. We got their interest. You know, okay. Well, maybe, even if you grow your hair out a little bit more, they, you know, you might be able to trick them. If I go, that is a hot lady. Whoa. It's got to be here. Uh, geekscapers, we're going to take another station break. We come back. We may not talk about nudity again, but we'll probably talk about some stuff that interests you. So you're going to want to hang out. Okay. We'll be right back on geekscape. All right, geekscapers. We're back here. Okay. In print. Makes me think of rapists, whenever you say geekscapers. Hey, geekscapers. Jesus. Shit. You're like geekscapers. No. It's like, it's like we're, we're explorers, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're like cadets. We're geekscapers. It kind of reminds me of manscaping that you do for your new scene. Yeah. The manscaping. Yeah. You know, listen, you're going to go wax. You're going to just do razor and like deal with the deal with the stubble. I have an answer. Yeah. We get, we got a group on for, uh, for waxing. So what's that? What does that do? Three for the price of one. Oh, it wasn't yesterday like national waxing day. I don't know. Like that for women. Better. Oh, for women. It hurt. Wait. Have you done the waxing? I haven't done the waxing. It's got to hurt, right? Yeah. Maybe she says it doesn't, but I feel like she feels great like ripping off a fucking band aid. No, that's just annoying. With pubes attached to it? No. There's like, there's like a certain thing that gets the chemicals flowing in the brain for you. I don't know. It's a pain thing. Post, post. I don't have a tattoo. It's chicken. Wild, bro. You're both welcome. You're both welcome. Yeah. I was Brittany this wild. He's taking these chicks out of the desert. What? Just with their butt. That's the last one. Dude, if you fucking change the beard, you could, I can't believe you could grow that beard. Anyway. I have never had a tattoo, but I would imagine that the people that get off on tattoos would also get off on the waxing because it's that same, I don't know. You have a tattoo. Yeah. Okay. What's your tattoo? See, it's a spine tattoo. Okay. I don't know. Yeah, go for it. All right. That's cool. Yeah. It looks like a note curve thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a little swirls. All right. I don't know. I prefer the sugaring if I do. Yeah. Sugaring is nice. Get to pink with me. What? It's like a wad of honey sugar that they kind of like. Yeah. Put on your hair. It's just like, yeah. There's no lemon thing. There's different kinds of wax. Yeah. There's hard wax. So soft wax. You don't use strips. Okay. So what's hard wax? Like you're waxing a surfboard? No. No. You're still waxing your nether regions. Okay. It's just hard. Okay. I mean, you could do it. I mean, I was going to play you guys. You nice ladies are doing it to your eyebrows or something. I wasn't going to go full. Okay. So you got that. And wait, how does it work with the hard wax? With the hard wax. It's just more like clay. So you put that on and you let it dry. Soft clay. Yeah. Okay. Like in ghosts. Hot. And then you put it on. Okay. Oh, what? Yeah. No, but there's you know. No. I don't write that. The dust they get and then it like kind of hardens. Oh, yeah. Oh. So, okay. So, please. So, the hard wax you put like a mud on and then it hardens and then it's rip city. And then it's just go for it. Fuck it. Okay. Right, right, right. Okay. Now what is this honey wagon? The. Honey bear. It wasn't. Honey wax. Honey wax. It's just like a ball that they literally hold this. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kind of. And then they just kind of like put it on you and like. Put it out and just. Okay. They just take it off. It's like whappy taffy. If it's like silly. Yeah. It's like exfoliation. Like honey exfoliation, but it takes the hair with it. Yeah. Dude, I'm so fucking wrong. So, there's no like white little cloth that you put down on the wax and then. Okay. Yeah. That's the soft wax that you like put on. So, what those kids did to me in high school wasn't waxing at all. I wasn't there. I couldn't tell you. Hey. I like a story. I still have the scars. I'm just fucking around. Not wax. You're going to get waxed with this. Probably. Oh. Any chance to whack your fucking face? Yeah. That would hurt. I don't know why you are. Listen, every time you come on the show, the beard is more out of control and you look like fucking Alan Moore at this point. So, what part of the need to prove your artistry lends itself to growing a beard which makes you inaccessible to others? No, I get there. Don't worry. Okay. What is this? When are you hiding for the world? When we finish the festival run for our son, I had kind of, you know, because I used to be an actor mainly. You're really an actor. Yeah, we just had this guy show waxing. Actor sacrifices. But I realized like I had looked like my head shots for a decade. Okay. And I didn't have to do that. Do that. Jack. Didn't have to do that anymore. What's the word? So, I was like, oh, what if I just grew up my hair and beard until. I started shooting my next movie. Is this your fat album stage, dude? Without getting fat. Like, is this your fat album stage where you're like, I got nothing else to prove, bro. I got nothing else to prove. What else could the world ask? It's going to be. I've already given it so much. It was a way for me to arrange the time between movies and- So you're going to shave it during this movie? Well, so there's the problem now. So I did that and then it's grown out and everything and now I'm getting ready to do a new movie. It's like the peanut butter solution. I don't know if I want to cut it. Wow. Okay. So, well, you can't, you can't, if you're playing the trucker. Yeah. Yeah. I would definitely keep it for the movie. So then if I get rid of it, at least it's documented somewhere. Yeah. That's a good idea. That's a good idea. But you also had a reaction as the beard started getting longer and longer. You were telling me about what you noticed people seeing in you. Bugs. Lots of bugs. Bugs and twigs, mainly. I thought as I grew it out, I would become less approachable if people would be scared of me. Oh, but people are just going up to me. Yeah. People are like, all the time, dude, love your beard, bro. Love your beard. Echo Park. So we're in this Coachella and then it worked on a couple of movies, you know, like, Assistant Directing and stuff, and I get cast in every one of these movies because they're just like kidding. You look like an oil rigor, you know, rock musician. Yeah. You worked at quarry. Sure. You ever kidnapped kids? You ever delivered presents on Christmas? Yeah. Yeah. I think that you're very fashionable in certain select opportunities. Great. Yeah. No. I'm fucking being a leading man. Be that weird. That's right. That's good. That's good. Great. And hard son. Thank you. I think you were good. And I think you were great in, oh, what's his name is movie? Jeremy. Yeah. I think James is a movie. I was going to call him Jamie. It's like, don't call me that. Listen, let's talk about logistics, all right? Like, did you guys do like a Kickstarter or an Indiegogo or any of that or you're just like, fuck it. Let's go. Mmm. Cause I hear his mouth full of the wild didn't get no video. You know, like, can you help that with this? So I'm in charge of the crowdfunding. Canyon handed that one over to me. We kind of split things. I'm going to, that's the extent of that story there, but we're going to do it. We are doing Indiegogo. Okay. Yeah. And we are launching it. We're launching it in a week. Okay. So we have a free launch page, which if you go to Venus the movie Facebook or Venusthemovie.com, you can sign up there for all the alerts. And then when we launch in a week, you're first to know about it and we have amazing perks too. Like a Twitter too, right? Like a Venus? Like a Instagram. There's a Facebook. Venus the movie. We just start a Snapchat. It's all Venus the movie. Okay. And talk about the perks and talk about like what you guys are going to be aiming for here with this. How much do you guys think? What's your goal? Indiegogo, right? So you don't have to get it, but it'd be nice. What is the goal on that? We've been going from 50 to 100,000 back and forth just because the budget has been changing now that we went out and we scouted. So it's going to range between there, but we also want to open it up and it's, well, I don't want to tell you that. Sure, sure. Sure. But some of the perks you get, you get the digital version of the movie, you get a blue ray. Alien stamp book? Alien stamp book? No, Alien stamp book. But I will tell you, they have this Alien tequila. What if we made an Alien stamp book? Oh my gosh. That's so genius. Ooh. I don't want to tell you how to run your campaign, but I'm thinking one of the perks. I don't want to tell you how to run it, but I think one of the perks is the shot of Canyon in his rear. You hit a certain goal. He turns around. There you go. No, that's already in the script. And they'll like cop different. Yeah, you helicopter or do a camera slap. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The camera slap. That'd be. Yeah. Well, down for some cameras slap. It might be a stretch on the performance, but if there's anybody where I think can reach those depths of character, I think it's you, pal. I think it's you. I like it. I've reached for that length of character and really get to know him. All right. It's fucking should become three dimensional, like 3D movie. The aliens, like, are they existential or like the literal aliens are going to see little aliens in this movie? What do you think? I mean, don't spoil it, but like, like fucking paid for aliens. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Like in movies when it's like, I want to see the aliens. They don't show it. Why are you looking at me? So you will see aliens in various stages. And basically aliens are in the midst of replacing us. Oh, oh, so so perhaps one of the girls may have already, oh, oh, oh, you know what? It's unfair. I'm thinking like a writer and I'm not. It's not fair. All right. Geekscape is going here with an open mind and enjoy it, but do you see the aliens early on? I was thinking about that movie, The Host, you know, the director who did like Snowpiercer. I kind of like The Host in retrospect. I remember seeing it being like, ah, the third act is kind of just soft, but the fucking movie is pretty awesome. And he shows that monster like in clear day, like 15 minutes into the movie. Yeah. Like, how are you guys doing this whole thing? This you'll see, you see a quick glimpse of an alien in the opening scene. And then it's probably about halfway through where the shit hits the fan and it starts going. You don't need me to play like an alien or something. I think I'll play like a fucking Jawa or something. Well, if you're, you know, if you're in town, it sounds like you're in town. Yeah. I'm ugly enough to do it. You might just cover myself with a damn beer. Yeah, then you can play Jackson. Yeah, you go. Hey, ladies. You do not. Nobody wants that. They're like, what is that? A white pube? Like, nobody wants that. Okay. Nobody. Nobody wants it. All right. That's rough. Doesn't want it. Okay. Yeah. That's nobody's demanding that. Trust me. Household or cineplex. No one's demanding this. No one's demanding to see that shit. Oh, just me and my comics. Everything will be okay. A light fully lived. One panel at a time. Oh, Jesus. Check it. Just got really sad. I'm kidding. Geekscape. I'm being facetious. We're going to stop for one more break. We'll get back. We're going to be talking a little more Venus and probably a little less Venus right here on Geekscape, hang with us. Guys, we're back here on Geekscape on Z Hollywood and we're talking little movies. I'm sorry if we're talking too much movies, but you guys know it. If you're a new time Geekscape, we've got a video game show, Geekscape Games. It's kind of hosted by Shane O'Hare. Oh, God. Kenny is also on that show. So if you want to listen to a host on that show, Kenny's there and every now and then Derek comes back or you can listen to Shane make a bunch of fucking bad jokes. I really sold it. No, I like it. We also have a horror movie podcast called the Horror Movie Night podcast and these three young gentlemen get together and talk horror movies. And you guys suggest the horror movie. So it's cool. Like the audience suggests the horror movies. You force these assholes to watch them and they're just sad enough to go all ahead and do it too. They're like, I ain't doing nothing. I'm going to watch this fucking bad movie and then I'm going to talk about it on the Internet. Oh my God. It gets sad. You know what? This is Geekscape and we're going to talk movies just this episode. If you guys want your video games, we'll be back for E3 and all that stuff. And again, Comic Con is coming up. So there'll be plenty of comics and video games coming up. And of course, Captain America Civil War is coming out this week. I've got my tickets, probably two seats over from Ian Kerner, who you guys love having on the show. So not only are you going to have this episode, I think sometimes this weekend you guys are going to end up with a additional special Geekscape podcast where Ian and I talk all things Captain America Civil War because every time there's a big comic movie, you guys demand the Ian episode, so you're definitely going to get it. And that's that. But right now, we're talking Venus. We're talking indie movies. You guys are told this. You're going to be shooting pretty aggressively out in the middle of the desert. You've got a desert expert, though. She's got weaponry and all sorts of stuff. And what are the big challenges on this thing? What happens on Indiegogo if you get, when are you thinking about shooting it basically is what I'm saying? So you get to Indiegogo and you raise 30 or 40 in your like 10/20 short of really being able to go out in the desert and put this together. I mean, really realistically, this thing's happening. Right. Translate the station. Yeah. We'd love for it to leave the station with your help Geekscapeists, right? Yeah, we go to Nevada in three weeks and we shoot five days there and then we're back for like a month and then on June 28, we head out to New Mexico for three weeks. And that's it. And then we'll have one day of shooting in LA. So you're missing Comic-Con? No. We're back in time. We're back in time for Comic-Con. Yes. Oh my God. Thank the board. Ben Begley is in the movie. Oh, Ben Begley. We have to make sure he's available. I've seen him in Supergirl. Yep. But he's got other things going on. But every now and then I'll see Ben Begley in like the background of like Supergirl like Ken Grant office scene and I'm like, oh, you know what? They got to throw him shit to do because I don't know who's clearly in the pilot. And then every now and then I feel like I've seen Ben again, but like I know Ben's always got things going on. We go to the same comic store and you know what Geekscape is, I'm talking about somebody you've never met. He should come on the show. We should keep Ben on the show. I think he's a great actor and he's obviously like right on that cusp of like, boom. He's great. And then we actually, he plays Chuck in the movie and then Chuck's roommate Doug is played by Ben's real life buddy, Tori and Thompson, who was in the final girls. Okay. Was that movie good? I really, we really enjoyed that. I want to say that. That looks funny as well. We watched it and then like the next day we went to Ben's premiere of the movie who wrote Funhouse Massacre and Tori was there and her and I were kind of geeking out on it. I'm like, Hey, we just watched your movie. You're really good. The movie's good, right? Yeah. And then we basically wrote this role for for he and Ben and so he's going to be in the movie too. Yeah. He's in the movie. James, I mean, obviously we like Elizabeth, we like Britney, but like who else is in it besides this ass? So it's them, the other, the other good girl is Tara Dane, who's playing Becca. And then Jay Michael is in it for, he's got a small little cameo in it. Tammy Carey. Yeah. Like, is in it though. She probably doesn't know that yet. Oh, well. Surprise. Surprise. Congratulations. She's like, they're dragging me out of the fun. Yeah. Great. Actually, she wasn't going to have to come out. She was just going to shoot in L.A. until the table and Ben had a good idea. So now we got to take her out to New Mexico too. Oh, you don't have to bring her back. Be like, just remember guys, we don't have to bring you back. We got to take you out there. You don't got to bring you back. Threaten your actors. We violence. So like pay for them to get out there, but then they have to, you know, run around. I didn't know that part. They'll bring you going to find out. Forget this. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. You got to bring some comfortable shoes, girl. Cool. I'm excited, dude. I'm excited to see another King in Prince production. Can you share that name at least, you jerk? Which, like, she's got story credit. Like, you know. Yeah. I mean, she's got, she's a producer film and lead actress and realistically she'll probably make more money than I will, because I got to defer all my chips. Yes. That's right. I'll get paid in, like, five years. Yeah. My wife was asking about that. She's like, so when you go off and shoot the movie, like, how much, like, do you get paid? And I go, oh, you didn't just raise it as how much do I pay. Oh, no, it's how much do I pay? It's not how much do I get paid. No. And it's indie. It's how much do I pay very much. Like, you know, Jeremy Sonner, like, how he, like, went into, like, a second mortgage to do a blue ruin. I saw it in just a green room. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. Which is fucking awesome. I'm supposed to go to Ben today, but I'm here. I'm very sorry. No, you should have gone because it's a very good movie. And Geekscape is, I think, an open wide this past weekend. And former Geekscape guest and friend Mark Weber is on there. And he does really well and God, just like, having met Jeremy, like, 11 years ago at South Binder, like, seeing, like, the talent and blue ruin and then the talent again in this movie, because he effectively makes Captain Picard a pretty effective lead. Like, Patrick Stewart plays, like, the head of, like, a neo-Nazi group. And it's really believable and awesome. And it's terrifying. And the movie's just really good. I didn't know it was done by the guy who did blue ruin. Yeah. And he's just so talented, but with blue ruin, it was like, that's what you made with 100 grand. Why do I even do this? Like, in, he's like a pretty talented photographer, I thought that movie was really tightly scripted and shot. And if you guys haven't seen blue ruin, go see it. And then, of course, like, green rooms this weekend, I think, wide, and it's pretty damn awesome. I enjoy that. And Captain America goes back. Yeah. I was like, why don't we write the fucking Captain America movie? You know what I mean? Like, whoever's in here writing these, like, indie scrap jobs, it's like, eh, I'm gonna, like, eat pretzels and, like, some, like, crackers to get this movie made. And then he's like, nah, this is the, uh, why don't we just write a damn smart idea, like a, like a commercial idea, sell out superhero movie, so it's going to be on the title of the script. Well, this is the, this is the, uh, you know, the positioning film. So, you know, it has a very, uh, Terminator ending, a very Sarah Connor kind of thing. Yeah. So, so the hope is we do this for nothing and then, you know, the, the sequel is a big studio film. That's cool. That's cool. Okay. 100 million dollar budget. And Geekscape, it's going to only happen. And aliens in the first. It can only happen. It can only happen Geekscape is if you guys get on this crowd funding whenever you guys, uh, launch it. Indiegogo. Yeah, this crowd. Yeah. Indiegogo Venus the movie. And of course we're going to throw that stuff up on the Geekscape website. So, uh, how long are you guys going to run the campaign for a month? Yeah, it'll be 30 days. Okay. So you guys are going to have, uh, 30 days of support from us here. Geekscape, uh, Geekscape is, I think they're going to, uh, auction off a roll as an alien or something. Maybe like a beetle monster. Yeah, we do. We have ways for you to get involved. You give us your money, uh, be a producer, be an actor, have a walk on line. I think I can play a desert rock or show your junk. I can probably play a meteorite. That's about the range of my talent. I love it. Jonathan, stand over there. Actually, he is a meteorite in the film. I will play it. I'll be like green and shit. I just won't brush my teeth for a month. We'll just sling shot you and do it. Tuck and roll. Tuck and roll asshole. Yeah. We're going to need a cow with, uh, overly large utters. Mm-hmm. Check. Yeah. Yeah. I think that, no, David, that chicken. It has a cow costume. Yeah. Let's do it, girl. Yo. You have a cow costume? Um, I do not have a cow costume, um, but it's just going to fucking cow and wear it. I mean, what? What? You can't say that. You can't say that. You can't just get a cow and wear it. Um, no. He gave us, uh, he gave us, this is what I want you guys to do in, in all the insanity and the stupidity that I'm throwing your way. This movie is going to launch, it's indigo going a week. You guys are going to go right now to Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and look for Venus, the movie. You're going to set up those alerts. And of course on GeekScape, we're going to be throwing this stuff at you too. But you want to support this movie because obviously like that first movie, I was like, okay, Cang it. I'm all right. See him again. And he came back with a really damn good movie. So this one, you know what? There's a train back in the station. It ain't going to be in the station again. All right? Because this is going to be it. Now he's going to be doing a fucking Star Wars movie. Because remember, any of these indie directors, there's one movie away from a Danny Star Wars movie. Isn't that the way it is? He's going to be doing Spider-Man. You want to hop on this train now. Lots wax. So again, just go look for Venus, the movie, and set up those alerts. You'll be hearing more from GeekScape. Thanks for coming, guys. Thanks for having us. Thank you. That came in. Elizabeth Brittany. Yeah. GeekScape is, you can find everything GeekScape at Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, same place. It's just search for GeekScape. Become our friends. You know we're going to San Diego Comic-Con booth 3919, and you know what? You're going to find some Venus stuff there, too, because I'm just announcing right now they're going to be doing some signing and appearances and promotion there. All right? Because that's the way that GeekScape works. We're in this together. I just don't like, but it's on the table. It's on the table. You guys are doing it. I love you guys for the boys, the fine boys here at ZHollywood. We will be back next week and same bat time, same bat channel. So hang with us and we'll see you guys next week. I love you guys. Over and out. I love you. I love you guys. I love you guys. Love you guys. Over and out.