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Geekscape 407: Entering A World Of Fantasy With Chris Mancini!

Longtime Geekscape friend Chris Mancini from The Comedy Film Nerds arrives on the show to talk about his new comic book 'Long Ago And Far Away', currently in the middle of a Kickstarter campaign! Fernando Pinto, who created the Geekscape logo, is the book's artist so you should probably go check it out! While Chris is here we give our thoughts on Disney's new 'The Jungle Book' and Richard Linklater's 'Everybody Wants Some'! Plus, the follow up to 'Jurassic World' gets a director and some news has surfaced on Sony and Marvel's new Spider-Man film 'Spider-Man: Homecoming'! Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:: 48m
Broadcast on:: 20 Apr 2016
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I'm Jonathan London, your host, and this is Geekscape. We've been talking for about nine years now, and this will be no different. We're gonna be talking movies, video games, and comic books. That's basically what I've decided this show is gonna be about. Every now and then we talk TV, but basically if you're a geek, if you like to go to Comic Con, if you're into any of that stuff, or if you just got your head pounded into the locker as a kid, welcome home. And Daredevil's over, so why don't we talk about TV anymore? Yeah, there's only fear of the walking dead, and that shows just a pile of limp cardboard. Hey, don't be rude, but you're right, a lot of these genre shows are ending. Supergirl had its finale last night, I think Arrow and Flash are wrapping up. What's left of us here in television? What's left? And you know what was really good that I watched last night was the Better Call Saul finale. Oh, that's pretty stressful. Finally, I could start watching this season, I'm excited. Pretty awesome. Yeah, I do understand that that is a show that if you're not addicted to it to the level I am where it's like, I just gotta know, I just gotta know that it just becomes stressful to not binge watch that show, because you just gotta go right into the next episode, and I love that show. But yes, this is Geekscape, I'm Jonathan Lennon, that's Kenny Craig. We do this show weekly, and if you're a longtime geek scapist, you know it. It's like, it fits like an old glove. Every week though, we also have a guest co-host. This week is no different, we got our good buddy from the comedy film nerds, Chris Mancini. He's here to promote a Kickstarter, he's a fellow director, he does a million things. He wants to save the kid from a firing building. Wow! Yeah, no, no, no, no, it's true. Is he still alive? It was a promotional stunt, but yeah. Let's just say, if there's a problem here, and so many yells, is there a lockdown board? Let's just look to Chris and see what he does. Sweet, I've got it all planned out. Okay, that could happen with me at any moment. It may not be successful, but Chris will do something funny. I'll be here. It may go wild. I'll start punching shit. It's something to happen. Chris, let's try this. I saw this on a TV show. What's good to be back? Last time I was on Geekscape, I was on a couch. Yup, the couch together. Oh, wow. Whoa, that wasn't Geekscape. Anyway, hey man. Hey, that's for the private files. Yeah, oh yeah, that was an episode of Geekscape. Jonathan, I couldn't find it on the RSS. Why were you taking me to the internet? Why did you ask me to take my shirt off? I was looking for an old episode of 19. I must have been thinking of a different podcast. Do you guys do this? I was thinking of the couch show. Do you still do that segment called the final splash? Welcome back, Chris. Welcome back to the first Geekscape you've been on note. Yeah, well, dude, welcome back. Nice to meet you guys. Catch me up with Graham and what's going on with the comedy film nerds. What's going on with that? Oh, we've been going not as long as nine years. You're like vets in that kind of space. Is that the word? Yeah. Is that the word? You know what? I appreciate you saying that. We got the PTSD. Yeah, the podcasts. There's like five. So comedy film nerds has been going really well. We're still doing a weekly podcast and then we add like some spoiler as we did a big Batman versus Superman one that Huffington Post mentioned and saying it was one of the definitive ones of what was wrong with the movie. This is the best person to say that what's shitty about the movie. Everybody's saying this movie is not that good, but these guys. We said it in a different way. They knew how great it was. But these spoiler casts, you guys are getting like this is pretty awesome. For the Force Awakens, these two fools flew to Australia. We went to Australia to see it a day early. And then they did the podcast. And then we did the podcast right after it. Yeah. With Steel Wars, Steel Saunders's podcast. In fact, as soon as we landed in Australia, that's a really long plane ride. Yeah, you have to leave there two days early to get there one day early. Exactly what happened. And it was like, okay, 16 hours. And then what do we do? All right, we check into the hotel. Then we had to do TV. We did RC-TV because they wanted to do segments on us about the crazy American comedians who came down to Australia to see Star Wars a day early. And then we did a midnight screening. Then we went to a bar next door in front of like it was like two 300 fans of our podcast and the Steel Wars podcast. And we did something like a two to three hour story. Oh my god. If it was insane. So listen to that. You know what? I asked who listened to that. Everyone. Yeah. In reference to like a two to three hour podcast. Like who doesn't do that? It's like every single person that wants to do it. Yeah. The Star Wars fans, absolutely. And I think I said it last week on the show. You know, the people who are like spoiler breakdown. Like they're one more bad, fantastic form of it from like throwing themselves off a building. But there are fans who are that dedicated that they're willing to invest that time. And that's insane. When I saw that email that you guys were doing this, I was like, A, it sounds like definitely sounds like Graham and Chris. And B, that's insane. And C, at what time, at what point are you going to get treated for the deep vein thrombosis that you have from all the fucking plane rides there and back. It really, it really was like at the end of it. I was like, you know what? This was a trip for a younger person. I was so tired at the end. I'm like, I need like another two days just to recover because you're on a plane for like literally two, three days. At least like way back, you are a younger person. Because it's back in time travel, which is pretty cool. Yeah. I get my younger. I'm going to stick to the strategy that we're going to see and talk about these movies. I was able to play lottery numbers. I'm going to see and talk about this movie when we can. Knowing that in some parts of the third world, we're still several days early. Maybe several years. Like we like an Istanbul. These guys are like, man, this is spoiler. This is spoiler. I'm just loving these talkies. That's a great Istanbul accent, by the way. I took that accent off of like the Turkish Superman shorts and things like that. You've seen those like little videos like the Turkish Superman, the Turkish Spiderman. But I want to now. It's like basically. I don't know if I get Turkish Star Wars too. Yeah. It's like a bad version of Star Wars or Superman where the government was like, we're not going to actually be able to bring these. We'll be able to bring these movies into our country, but we'll make our own versions and they're going to be awesome. If not the country, the force goes to sleep. Yeah. I saw the government fan films. Yeah. It's not like a Turkish Rambo. Oh. That was going around Facebook a couple days ago, like a Turkish version of Rambo. I think you're closer to Afghanistan. Yeah. And I was like, I think a Turkish Rambo is basically the side that Rambo is. It's a bunch of your friends getting blown up by one guy who's all USA, baby. But no, Chris is on the show, not just to talk about the comedy film nerds, but he's got an actual comic book that our good friend Fernando Pinto. Yes. Did the gigscape logo. Yep. Amazing. I also did one of your other comics. He's the one of my other comics and Chris was looking for an illustrator and he said, yeah, what about that dude Fernando? And this was a little bit ago. This was a while ago, yeah. And I said, dude, Fernando's awesome. Yes. You'd be honored to use him and then you guys put this comic book together. We totally did. It was originally, I'd originally met Mark Wade and was going to go on his thrill bent comic site. And the funding fell out just right when it was about to go. On your comic book? Yeah. On the project on thrill bent. Okay. So. How does that work? Like I know thrill bent, thrill bent still around. Sort of. Okay. It's the sights up. It's evolving. Yes. It's going through its next phase. So that fell through and I was like, I can't, I just can't wait any longer. I have to get this going because it's been in development for different places. And I was like, I can't. This is one of those stories that I had to get out. I had wanted to do it. So I emailed you and I said, look, I need a comic book artist. And you said, you got to check out Fernando. I did. I emailed him. And then it's like, he's in Chile. I'm like, okay. I was a little worried at first because like with this, the humor translate, especially when you're working closely with someone. Yeah. And I was like, oh, no, I'm a fan of your podcast. I listen to you all the time. I'm like, oh, this is awesome. Now there's literally nothing lost in translation. And he already loves me. Yeah. And then he went to college in New Jersey. I'm like, all right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You got it. So we put together some sample pages and then we put them together. And then we're like, all right, how much would it cost to get you and possibly some support artist paid that printed and all that stuff. And then we came up with a Kickstarter number because we didn't want to do like an issue one. Sure. This is the entire story beginning middle and 140 pages minimum. And so we put it together. We're about halfway through. It's about a $28,000 thing. We're about $17,000 more than halfway. Yeah. We're in a striking distance. Yeah. We're in a striking distance. 11,000 more we need so. And when we put it together, it was one of those weird things where it's been in development with me for so long trying to get it made. Then when Fernando started drawing it and the images started coming in, it was like it started to come to life to me. Yeah. Out of the gate too. And the great thing about it is he's also more experienced than I am with comics. This is my first one. So it was able to bounce things off. I'm like, all right, well, what if we laid out the panels this way? And he's like, well, why don't we try this? And then things like that I had a learning curve like, oh, I can't put 18 panels on one page. So, okay, all right, fair enough. I'm learning. But one of the things about being a director is you just kind of put it in storyboard mode. Like when you lay out a graphic novel, so he kind of hit that sweet spot. It was like, here's how it should go. And here's the pacing. And then, you know, there's certain joke pacing that I would slow things down. And then like, you know, pregnant paws, panels, things like that. Or page turns. Yeah, page turns exactly. I remember Mark Wade when we were talking about it. He goes, one thing that made me laugh. He's like, the only way I can surprise a reader is at the beginning of the next page. Yeah. I think that's very true. So it was, I actually learned a lot from him too. He was kind of mentoring me a little bit on how to put this together. Not a bad mentor. So he's been supporting it. He's a pretty big, good one. Yeah. He gave me a quote to do and he's promoting it and supporting it on Twitter, which has been very helpful. That's cool. I got him Mark Guggenheim, who's the show owner for Arrow. Yeah. Mark Allen Miller, who works. It's all marks. Only marks been supporting it. Well, Mark's in our audience. Yeah. I tried to get Mark Millar, but he didn't respond. Mark, Mark. Yeah. If you guys want to do your support, we got that. He'll take money from not just marks, though, if you guys want to support this Kickstarter. So. He still got those two weeks left. Exactly. The Kickstarter and then search for... A long ago and far away. Okay. And the premise is that I was always thought like, you know, as a kids, we would read Narnia and all these great stories about how kids would go into this magical world, fight the evil witch and then come back. Well, I always thought, well, what would happen when those kids grow up? They're in a dead-end job. They're 30 and they're kind of haunted by their past and then they have to go back in this world as an adult. Right. As a jaded, nerdy adult. So would they still be here or would they kind of make things worse because they're kind of jerks? Yeah. So I always thought about that seventh Narnia book and at the beginning, like the kids die in a train wreck. Do you remember that? Yes. I do. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. The final Narnia book. I was so excited reading one through six. It's towards the beginning. It is from the last battle. There's a train derailment with the kids. It's about between them and tons of metal. I think some of them die, right? Does Aslan bring them back or something like that? I forget how it resolves itself. Well, they go to heaven. Oh, yeah. Right. It is very much like that. Yeah. Well, it's very much like a Christian book series. Yeah. For sure. Not amazingly well hidden, but they did some job. We'll just call it allegorical. Allegorical. There you go. There you go. And so what religion is this? What is this? I created my own because that's the way you make the most money. Oh, that's true. I think that's very true. You know. So, and what it is, is then this character Jason goes back into the world. He actually brings his two comic book friends with him. And, you know, they're arguing about him. And they had not been to the world before. They had not been to the world before. They think he's crazy. They think he's crazy. And then he actually ends up there with them. So he decides, well, do I save the world? Do I just try to get back? And I was writing it. And there's a lot of jokes about, obviously, elves and dwarves and witches. And, but it was one of those things too. As you know, when you write, it's all, everything's autobiographical. So these other themes started kind of being created as I was writing. Like, as we're younger, we have this childhood sense of wonder where we look at the world. Everything's new and there's endless possibilities. That's just called crazy. Yeah. Then as we get older, we're like, we're like jaded adults. And we're like, we lose that. So it's also a story about when you're a jaded adult, how do you get that back? How do you get that childhood sense of wonder back? Speak for yourself. I'm saying the same fucking moron I was as a kid. I'm still like, oh, boogers taste like sugar. So there's stuff like, oh, you got to be careful that guy. He's a giant dwarf. They're really cranky. I'm like, what? You're just a guy with a beard. You're not a giant dwarf. Oh, so in the fantasy world, they're able to maybe dismiss some of these things in the fantasy world. They're like, oh, look at all this magical stuff. And they're like, well, some of it's magical. Some of it just kind of sucks. Yeah. And they're arguing about who would win in a fight. Conan and Harry Potter, because they hate magic. But they're in the middle of an actual fight when they're doing it. So now they can actually see it. They're like, oh, well, if we wait five minutes, we can actually get an answer to this. That's awesome. And so we're going to talk a little bit more about it. We're going to take a station ID break here at ZHollywood. ZHollywood. And when we get back, we're going to talk a little bit more with Chris about long ago and far away, stay with us, Geekscapus. We'll be right back. Hey, Geekscapus. During the break, if you're watching this on ZHollywood, you see during the break there's a roll call of all the various DJs and guests we've had here at ZHollywood. And I like to do impersonations of them. And here's the thing. I have never done one of those things. Even though I'm a host here, Eric Roberts gets asked to do, hey, you're watching ZHollywood. Did you like to do one of those spots? Get a chance to do it. I have not been asked to do it. I just asked you. I don't have any poll here, but I just liked it. And then you see Hollywood that they're guests and they're hosts to identify the brand. Right, right. I haven't been asked. How would you do it? Yeah. How would you do it? You guys know. You guys know. Right. Well, see, there's two different types of IDs on that reel. Some of them are people who are normal. No, well, there are people who are, like, enthused, right? Right. And they're like, hey, what's up? This is so-and-so and you're watching ZHollywood. And it's very enthused. I would like to think that I'd be that person. But that person seems like they're just a little bit too into it, right? Like, they really want you to watch their show and they're super desperate. I don't want to totally come off like that, even though that's probably the most honest. Yeah. Right. So that version would be like, hey, what's up? This is Jonathan from Geeks Game and you're watching ZHollywood. That was horrible. Total cheese dick, right? That was horrible. The other one that I noticed. The one I'm interested in now. This one is more like the, it ain't no thing, but a chicken wing. Yeah. Come on, right? Where they're like, yo, what's up? This is your boy soul and soul and you're watching ZHollywood. You know what? I don't even know who so-and-so is, but I'm down to watch that now. Because that person's like, yo, you just want to chill with me, right? I just want to chill with so-and-so. So I was thinking of myself. Can you meet me in the middle with those jobs? No, you're asking me to- Hi! This is Jonathan London in New York. You're asking me to get a lot of my range, Chris. Chris, if you directed me, I could probably find it near the 40th take, but- Right. Take the energy of the first one. I think my version of that person, from what I can gather from seeing them- I think that's just- I'll chew-chill. I studied this very much. I've said that. He's a freak. I've studied this many weeks. My version would be like, yo, this is your home. God damn it. Yeah, I'm laughing. If someone just heard this on audio, they're like, well, they're giving blow jobs. Like, here's the thing. Here's the thing. The people who are happy to be here are really enthused to make their IDs. I want to do more than them. I want to be like, hey, what's up? This is Jonathan from Geekscape, you're watching Sea Hollywood. And do I have room for our cartwheel right here? Then the people who were like, this ain't no thing. I want to be like, this really, really ain't no thing. Like, if they are not impressed, I'm really not impressed. And if they have better things to do, I totally have better things to do, even though I don't. So my one would be like, fucking temp. See, Hollywood up in there? Geekscade. Yo, what's for long? Like, I don't know. I just think that somewhere in the middle would just be, I think, a normal stage ID. See, your apathy makes me curious. Let's see. Maybe we need to get on that green screen and recall all these right away. We could put it on green screen and they could lift me up next to you. And it looks like I have real legs. You got to get up. I was thinking like, well, what's so interesting that he just doesn't care about. Yeah. You're like, if he doesn't give a shit that much, I wouldn't want to know about this. Yeah. Yeah. What? What is he talking about? That's right. Guys, this is my low-key stage ID for Geekscape, Sea Hollywood. Go ahead and put an image, like, of a baboon or whatever you want on it. And this is what I'm doing, okay? Guys in the engineering booth, like, let's use this for the real, right? Don't even use my face because that, too, should be a mystery. That, too, should be there. Oh, you know what? I think we're maybe a picture of Ziggy. Sure. Sure. Like, you know the cartoon Ziggy? Like, let's do that. But basically, this is it. Yeah. Can we spice that into the celebrity reel here in the Hollywood? Just loop it. Yeah. Like, a guy, just-- Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mmm. Let's do that. Where's the bathroom? To do that. Let's talk to the guys. I mean, I don't know. That decision is about my pay grade. You know what? I think they would totally love that decision. Mmm. Okay. Well, until then, I want to inform you guys, you're watching Geekscape on Sea Hollywood. We're here every week. Our guest this week, though, is Chris Mancini. He's got a Kickstarter. He's running for this comic book with our good friend Fernando Pinto, who did the Geekscape logo. So really, you owe it to these guys to Kickstart, this project. It's called Long ago and Far Away. It is a fantasy comic book about modern day people who, when they were kids, they went into a fantasy world. And now they've been separate from that fantasy world. They've gone on and led their lives and they said, "You know what? I wonder if that fantasy world's still there." And not only that, does that fantasy world still need me as much as I may need it? And then, who knows? I think they go over there in Heijigson-Sue and maybe a high adventure story in which they rescue maybe not that world, but both worlds. What do you think that I nail it? And pretty close. Yeah! And right after that, there's a train crash and everyone's dead. Yeah. The last battle. Yeah. So, Chris, let's talk movies because that's what you guys do on Comedy Film Nerds. And if you guys aren't familiar with Comedy Film Nerds, you should definitely check out that podcast. It's a great podcast. Chris is on it with Graham Elwood, another very funny comedian. And I saw two movies this past weekend. I saw John Favreau and Justin Marks' The Jungle Book, which made a ton of money. And I loved it. I thought this Jungle Book, although it was CGI, with the CGI's phenomenal, by the way. And even though it's CGI and bells and whistles and it's modern day approach to the classic Disney, kind of telling it, I still thought it was pretty awesome. Now, let me ask you this question because when I first saw the trailer, I wasn't that excited to see it because it looked like the trailer was showing. But we're just making a CG version of the animated movie. Yes. And from what I'm hearing, especially with other people who've seen it, it's not like that at all. It's its own movie, it has its own tone, and it's actually really fun to watch. I mean, from beginning to end, I think it's an awesome script by Justin Marks. It's really a clean script. It's really a well-written script. And then I think it's John Favreau's best movie. And I do include an Iron Man, really. It's right there, I think, with that first Iron Man. Better than Chef. I like Chef. I think Chef didn't earn some of its dramatic beats, you know, where I was like, "Oh, that was convenient." You know, the resolution, I thought, in Chef, it was a bit abrupt, it was a bit quick. Let's get to the talking animals. But here, you know, he just sets it up from the get-go. And really, from beginning to end, this is a really well-done movie. And there were those moments where I turned to Laura and I said, and she's a little more familiar with the cartoon version, the Disney version than I was, and I said, "Was that in there? Was that in there?" And there were a lot of beats that actually were. And some of the songs were, as well, but they had been changed enough to be a part of this world. There are a lot of songs in the original. Yeah. This one, for the most part, only has two or three. Okay. So, the character stuff is great. And I love the fact that they took this 12-year-old Indian kid and turned him into a really, really good star, I mean, he's really charismatic in this. And sure, there are parts where you watch the performance, you're like, "Well, it's still a 12-year-old working with CGI animals on the green screen. It's not easy to do that for an adult. This kid is hitting it out of the park multiple times in this movie, and the movie is just fun to watch. And it scratches that same itch that the old one did, and it does it in a way that definitely satisfies the 2016 sensibilities. I loved it. I thought it was pretty awesome. And the things that they added, they should have added. But did they do like a Roger Rabbit, where all the actors were actually in the costumes of their characters? I don't know. I know that they did. I know that they did like a Vanity Fair spread, where one of those magazines like Vanity Fair photographed the actors alongside their live-action versions. I thought it was great. It's really well done, traditional, like budget Hollywood film, but it wasn't a bad script. If the right chord. Every single beat was awesome. I loved it. It's one of my favorite movies of this year, which is great because the other movie, Zootopia, is another one that I thought it was great to do. I thought Zootopia was great, too. Fantastic. I really liked it. The other movie I saw this weekend that you also saw Chris was the Richard Linklanner movie. I'm sure he is a big fan. Yeah. Well, I talked to him a little bit here and there, but like, press events. You know, if he's doing a bumper, he's probably like, "You know, you want to listen to games?" Yeah, right, right. But everybody wants some of his new movie, and it basically follows the weekend before class this freshman baseball player. He's a pitcher. He comes in. He has to live in the baseball dorm. It's 1980s. It's literally 1980, and it's an awesome... It's the turn of the decade where it's right at the beginning of the '80s, and there's still some '70s in there, yeah. And he's the freshman in the new pond, and he has to learn the ropes of being not only on the baseball team, but in college. And I found it, even though it's plotless for the most part. Yes. Not for the most part. Not for the most part. It was for the entire part. You're watching this movie, and the only structure is this movie's going to end in the first class period. This movie's going to start with him taking his things for college out of the back of his truck, and meeting all the guys, and learning where he's going to live, and over the weekend he's going to learn the ropes of college. And then it's just going to end as soon as he sits down for his first class period. Yes. And that's about as much structure as you get. Right. I loved that. I don't mind the amorphous, French new wavy kind of, "This is about the characters and the experience." And you know what? Screw you. Life doesn't have structure. You just have to exist for two hours with these characters, and they're going to do some interesting things. They're going to do some non-interesting things. There are going to be some parts you like. There are going to be some parts you understand, but from beginning to end, you're going to see it all as relatable. And to me, it struck the chord of just being honest, and I was like, "Oh, I remember all of those sentiments during that period of my life." That being said, you-- I didn't like it as much. I think you needed a little more. Yeah. And I'm a huge Linkledder fan. I loved "Boyhood." Best movie of the year. I love it. You know, I like these other movies before sunrise, before sunset, I've enjoyed a lot of his films. I really felt like this one kind of missed the mark a little bit, because arguably you could say every Richard Linkledder movie has a slow pace, meandering plot, if any, dialogue heavy, and is character driven. So if all of those pieces are in every single movie, what makes one more compelling than the others? I was trying to figure out why this one didn't resonate with me as much as the other ones. And I was thinking that I think because this one didn't show me the insights that the other movies did. This, like "Boyhood" showed insights into growing up and those quiet moments of our lives that ultimately define who we are. I didn't see a lot of that in this movie. Like I felt like this movie was just kind of like a pale comparison of the other movies. And this isn't '79. It takes place in '80s. It's almost cocaine-less. Yeah. Is that why? No. No. It was more pot. Okay. So that's why it didn't-- if it had Coke instead of pot. Waiting for this was like, "Oh, this is the sequel to 'Day of the Confused,' or this is the spiritual success of 'Day of the Confused.' No way. And watching the movie, I just thought that was not the proper way to sell it. There's something in all different ways, like, "Oh, no, this is the extension to 'Boyhood' because it's 'Boyhood' ends where he goes to college." And this is one like, "Well, now you're just trying to shove things into this neck." Just give us the movie. Yeah. Just give us the movie. It's like 10 Cloverfield Lane. It didn't have to be in that universe. It's just let it stand on its own. I think both those movies, that was part of the sell. It was like, "We're worried people aren't going to see these movies if we don't leave them as--" Right. If we just leave them as-- Yeah. Richard Linkler doesn't need an extended universe to put his movies in. No. The guy in my opinion is an Oscar winner. Yeah. And with 'Day of the Confused,' I think the moment that you wanted that-- I think would have been nice, but this movie doesn't have-- is that moment where Jason London has, in the original 'Day of the Confused,' on the football field, where he just kind of says, he has that-- you're right, that little insightful monologue about where he is in life, where he thinks he's going in life, and is all this-- is this all there is? Right. And Patricia Arquette had it in 'Boyhood.' I thought there would be more. Oh, man. There's like a really powerful scene. She's got an Oscar for this scene. Yes. That's it. She's awesome. And so I think like those actual beats were kind of missing, where this was more-- it felt like just kind of mandering sketches, like driven by character, but-- You're hanging out with these guys. Yeah, you're hanging out with them, and there's not much going on, and we know there's not much going on. And then I thought, well, maybe he's trying to make just a straight comedy, but no, there were still some dramatic beats in there, too. I just didn't feel like it dug deeper, or had the resonance of his other films. Sure. So if you're a fan, there'll still be things to like. I think it's not like it's a complete disaster or anything, I just-- I think it's this hateful eight of-- Yeah, you're accusing the movie of having a level of self-indulgence, and not knowing when to maybe figure some things out, ask itself the hard questions. Oh, I might be saying that. Yeah. I did enjoy it our own Dave Traverso over on the Kickskade website, gave it a 3.5. I'm going to land somewhere closer to a four, but I absolutely understand the sentiment that Chris is sharing with you guys. And my wife was like, after 30 minutes, I realized that I'm just going to be watching these guys exist, and I didn't really need to hang out with these guys, because I didn't hang out with them in college, and I'm like, I wanted to hang out with them in college, but now I get to. I wanted to get to a theater party. That was amazing. Dude. There was like this giant, you know-- I want to have friends. That's actually. Yeah, it was this college theater party that looked like it had about a $100,000 budget. It looked like a Fellini production. It looked like a Fellini production. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. It's lights hanging from the ceiling and everything. It's like, what is happening? This has been-- you know, this theater party. What was the budget for this party? Yeah, they've been planning it for six months just to get all the props. Those are the parties at Harvard. That's what you have. Maybe Yale. Yale's the theater school, I guess. But, guys, those two movies came out this weekend. Those are our thoughts. Let us know what you guys are watching on the Geekscape Facebook or throw it at us on the Twitter. And definitely comedy film nerds talk to Chris and be like, hey, Chris, totally feel you, bro. Or don't feel you at all. Or, hey, what's your address? I want to feel you in person. You know where to feel us. We're here every week, but right now we got to feel these station IDs here at ZHollywood. Or, it will be right back, guys, after this short break. Stay with us. You know, welcome back to Geekscape here on ZHollywood. Too much energy, Jonathan. Too much energy? Too much energy. Too much. Yeah. I'm excited. We're ready to do the show. Oh, yeah. Here on ZHollywood. Okay. Welcome back to Geekscape. We're here with our good buddy, Chris Mancini, the comedy film nerds. He's got a Kickstarter out for this comic book drawn by Fernando Pinto, who did the logo you're looking at right now from your podcast, Fetchur, long ago and far away. Go to Kickstarter and they got two weeks left on this thing and throw them some scratch because it's going to be 140-page comic book. It's not like you're kickstarting one issue and you'll never see the rest. That's the Super Action Man comic. It's because you're going to get 140 pages of fun in your lap. You're going to be reading it. And what are you going to get? You're going to get a print version, you're going to get a digital version, like one of the tiers. Everything. Print version, digital, and then Fernando will do custom artwork for you guys. Really? Yep, he'll do a... He did. It's called the Geekscape logo. For you guys specifically. Right. And people that actually back it. And then we have tears that go up all the way where you'll get my other books, pacify me and comedy film nerds guide to movies. Yeah. If you want all digital, you'll get, this is digital and you'll get Fernando's other two graphic novels. You'll get those. I love those books. But yeah, and then as you get higher, then there's one comedy film nerds tier where you can go and see a movie with Graham and I, and then we'll record a spoiler with you after the movie. Oh, now the spoiler episodes are those episodes where you guys are aggressively trying to see the movie earlier. And then do the podcast or what's the... It's like include a free air travel to Australia. Yeah. I'll do that. What tier is that? Yeah. LA area only. At that. You guys are cast that you guys do over at Comedy Film Nerds. Those are, those are specifically early. They're specifically, we want to try to, sometimes they're a little later like if it's a movie that like fans keep asking for the like, sometimes there's a movie every once in a while that like, oh, do people want it? Spoiler up on that? Yeah. The fans will ask for it. And then we'll see it and we'll do it. Could you guys do Lady Hawk for me? We could. Okay. That's a little bit. But, um, Roger, Howard, and Michelle Piper as a, as a hawk. That's a... Was it Matthew Broderick? Oh my God. Richard Donner's Lady Hawk, that's a little bit of magic in it. Yeah. A lot of it. And, uh, so yeah, you can actually, you get that and then you also, um, you know, we'll record the episode with you. But then we wanted to do like a high give back tier. So the highest one is $5,000. You get all the rewards, uh, but then we'll make your own comic for you. So Fernando Pinto and I, we decided that like, if you're helping us that much, we want to help you. I'll write 10 pages and Fernando will draw ink and letter 10 pages. So if you don't know how to make your own comic, you're not sure what to do, you just have an idea. We'll start the first 10 pages. We'll do one. We'll give you the, uh, we'll, we'll make the first 10 pages for you. Holy shit. You know what? That's like him hiring him, like figuring out a way for himself to get hired to write 10 pages of the comic. Right. Yeah. And I'll also thank God I don't have very much money. Otherwise you'd be just writing a comic and he'd be drawing just a bunch of penises. Yeah. And I do it just to troll you guys as a, uh, the internet, the money goes in a circle. That's what we're trying to do. Kenny has a, a comic called space chair in the planet of the penis, the Alons. Yeah. And it's him versus the penis, the Alons, and he's just shooting them with the space chair, right? Are they shooting you? Well, they're shooting out of the space. The space chair has a rocket penis, uh, I don't know if we could stretch that into 10 pages. Well, you don't want to stretch it then. Well, stretching it would be a right. Oh, yeah. Don't, don't do that. Yeah. This is not a good idea. We need to, we need to. You know, that's here. We actually had to put nothing crazy, please. Did you actually write that? Yeah. You actually wrote nothing crazy. Because beggars can now be choosers. Yeah. Fucking $5,000. I'll write anything. Yeah. Give me five. Hey, it's a guideline. I'm going to, I'm going to. No, I'm going to cut it. Guys, no, no Kickstarter. No kicks are involved. You give me $4,500. I'm going to draw and write your comic, just do $49.99. So $1 less. You guys are like, undercutting each other, and you're like, I'll draw, I'll, I'll write and draw whatever the hell you want. You sent me $4,500 right now. You're $43. Kenny will also draw it. Yeah. Kenny, you know what? Kenny will act it out. Kenny will do something. Yeah. I will sign language. It's the entire thing. $5,000. For the hearing impaired. Me doing something. But most people. Nothing crazy. You can give, guys. Only give me crazy. Don't give me anything normal. That won't do a normal comic book for you. And if your idea isn't normal, isn't crazy enough, I'll make it crazy. Or you have to pay more for less crazy. Yeah. Yeah. You give me a boring ass comic. You're paying more. So if it's $7,500 for something about like a cat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How cute. Yeah. All right. But most people have been pretty much just buying the book $30 or $20. And then one of the things about kick starters too, you want to make sure you give people stuff. So even if you just give $5, you get like wallpaper for not as going to draw wallpaper for us. Mm. Give me $4.99. I'll give you a $4.99 or draw your personal fat head for actual wallpaper. I guarantee it will not be as nice as Fernandez. Not even close. Oh, one of the things he's going to do too is if you send a picture of yourself and one of the tears, he'll draw you in the world. Yeah. See, here's the thing. He's like, I could try to undercut Chris and Fernando all I want. My comic will look like shit compared to Fernando's. Fernando will draw something that looks great. And my comic will look like you're like, dude, stick figure. You will want your money back so damn bad. He's amazing. He's so good. I love the guy. I love the guy. I do. My Chilean brother. You hear me? You hear me? He's in the punk rock. Yeah. He's a punk rock band. Yeah. Fernando is like a cool version of me. Which I can't imagine that. I can't imagine that. He's just a more functional human being than I ever was. But listen, guys, comedy film nerds, podcasts, that's where you can see Chris and of course to go to Kickstarter and find long ago and far away and throw him away. There's about 13 days left so make haste. So we create a little controversy. What do you think about the Sony controversy with the Ghost in the Shell? You know, when they're talking about they cast Scarlett Johansson in a role that everybody was like, no, she's Japanese. It's Ricky and Ghost in the Shell and I make the argument that, yeah, Disney just opened a movie to upwards of $108 million with an Asian actor in the Jungle Book and now we've got this Ghost in the Shell and George Johansson's there. And here's the controversy. A lot of people I think we're going to let Sony off the hook and be like, okay, we understand that this is your version of Ghost in the Shell. We understand that as a business you guys have to cast a bankable star and we understand that she's also a cyborg. So perhaps they put this Japanese character into a cybernetic body and then they didn't just hire an actual cyborg for the role. Well, then the news started coming out that Sony had invested money into a technology to make Scarlett Johansson look more Japanese. Yeah, really. Is that a snopes-approved article? Did that actually happen? No, yeah. Yeah. A lot of places are reporting that. I'm going to go ahead and say if this turns out to be true. It was a quote from someone from Sony, he was like, oh, and he was like, oh, we even invested this much as like whatever, but that didn't pan out. Guess what? Now I can understand the controversy. Digital white face, or digital yellow face, digital yellow face. That's like, come on guys. You know what Sony should be worrying about more, making a coherent movie? Yeah. Your mama raised you better than that is all I can argue. It's like, your mama raised you better than that. Unbelievable. Like, but even like the Ghost in the Shell stuff, getting the casting aside, it's a very complicated subject matter to get right especially. Like even if you watch the Animes or the TV series or any of that stuff, it's very dense and it's also only some of it makes sense. Sure. So like you just kind of got to go with it. So I'm interested to see like what stuff they're going to dumb down and what stuff they're going to keep. Like the original Animes is like an amazing chase scene in it. But you know, there's certain parts of Ghost in the Shell whether it's some of the TV series it goes off the rails a little bit as far as like coherency. But I'm excited about it. I've always liked Ghost in the Shell. Yeah. Could we get the picture back up again to see what it looked like because... Because... Okay. So I know like they changed her name. So she's now just the general or instead of I don't know, I forget what her name is. The major. They kept the... The general. Sorry. They kept like the side bang. The major. So does the one in the right look like she's actually Japanese? You know what? Save your white and you're just born. Yeah. Maybe Sony, what they meant to say was like, we're going to make her look more Japanese. Maybe they meant we're just going to give her anime hair. Right. Yeah. Maybe that's... Yeah. That's just used the wrong words. And... They didn't say like actually any Japanese like characteristics or anything. So that's what they meant. It's just... It's just all our problem. So it's our problem and we can just have to wait and see when the movies release and see which side you land on. I mean, guys, you know, I gave Avatar the Last Airbender a chance and that made it a film screen and... And that turned out very well, didn't it, Jonathan? Man. Yeah. You know what? I forget the very generous films. That's very generous of me, by the way. Dude, I gave it a chance. Yeah. It was not a very good movie. The Spider-Man reboot over at Sony that... Homecoming? That has it. Yeah. I mean, I think that title is kind of cool. We know the title is Spider-Man Homecoming which is fitting, we think, because Marvel's now involved and maybe Spider-Man's coming home. There's also a rumor that Iron Man or maybe one of the other Marvel characters that are over at Disney is going to have a cameo in it. And there's also a rumor that Michael Keaton's going to play the villain. Really? Really? Spider-Man Homecoming. I think what happened, too, with Disney, they were like, "All right, I think we've failed playing the waiting game to get the rights back to these characters." Let's make a deal. Sony was just going to keep churning out terrible films just to keep the rights. If you're going to do that to our characters, can they... So they worked it out where, "All right, why don't we make the movies you guys can still love the rights?" Because I don't know if all the details of the deal have been released, but it seems like from hints that they've let out in conversation that the movies made by Marvel/Disney, but then they're making it for Sony. I'm not sure, but a lot of this originated in the response to that Sony leak where there was, in the Sony leak, supposedly emails hinting the fact that Sony Entertainment Group was pressured to make a deal with Marvel for a conjunction deal in the movies. And I was like, "Okay, well, when the audience, when the public found out about that, they were like, "It's a great idea. Let's do that." Not to say that the original Sam Raimi, the first two Sam Raimi movies, I think are incredible. They're great. They're fantastic. So Sony is capable of making good movies. I don't know what the corporate culture became to the point where it was like the decisions were being made that we got two amazing Spider-Man movies that felt like they weren't a Spider-Man character. They felt like they were darker and maybe they were a little more Batman, and that's just not Spider-Man. So I'm really excited for Tom Holland. Yeah. Thank God they're not doing that with superheroes anymore. They're not changing the DNA or making them dark. Yeah, that's so good, but that's over. But we may look up in one day and see Tom Holland as the best character, or best actor who's ever played this character, because I think he's incredible. One of his former directors, he directed The Impossible, I think Tom Holland is the best part of The Impossible, and The Impossible is a really damn good movie, but this kid runs circles around Naomi Watts when you and McGregor, he's so good in this movie, is a movie called The Impossible by this Spanish director, Jay Beyona. You guys may recognize that name from The Orphanage, which was a really damn good horror movie produced by Gamertil Toro. Jay Beyona is now directing the follow-up to Jurassic World. Wow. So we have a really, I mean, not that Justin, not that Colin Trevor was not a good director, I thought he was a really damn good director. We now have another really, really damn good director. So what did Jurassic World have any plot details been released yet, what are you possibly going to do? The Jurassic Fiverr doing the soundtrack. Because it's Jurassic Five. Okay. That's all I know. That's it. And so... The Jurassic Fiverr on the soundtrack. Is there going to be a park, or are the dinosaurs going to get loose, or are they going to eat people? No. What's going to happen? If Jurassic Fiverr doing the soundtrack, no dinosaurs are going to get loose. It doesn't matter. Are they going to weaponize the dinosaurs? Like that was that great character in the last one, he's going to weaponize everything. Yeah. I don't, you know what? The best of this one. I'm going to weaponize the cafeteria. I can only tell you my plans for creating a park of dinosaurs. They're not going very well. I need better funding. If you guys want to kickstart my dinosaur park. I... You'll build fences that actually hold dinosaurs. Well, I'm starting a kickstarter pretty soon. First, I'm going to collect all the amber, and then I'm going to... Don't worry, you'll get your damn dinosaurs. We're going to get all the... The Dino DNA. Keep Scapus. I will give you this promise. If you fund my Jurassic World park, right, which I am going to do is a personal, like, a kickstarter. If you fund that, you will get your dinosaurs faster than you're going to get mighty number nine. So, think of all your failed kickstarters and realize that those kickstarters that have never, ever given you the rewards, I will give you live dinosaurs before you get your mighty number nine. No, they get the egg, or do you actually hatch them before you send them? I think the egg on the face. Do we get to do our own little... Come on. Push. You know what, Kenny? That's a tier, and I'm not ready to release my strategy at the moment, because there's two competing parks. But we'll think about it. We may just start out with a backyard installation and grow from there. It's going to be like a neighborhood like Funhouse, like a neighborhood like Haunted House, and then cardboard box is kind of like... And if it goes missing or two, then no one will be the wiser. Well, it's plot detail at that point. If it goes missing, that's not a tragedy. Okay, he ran away. It's a plot detail. It's like, well, he's not missing. Are you going to try to make the dinosaurs look more Japanese? Well, that depends on... Yeah, you know what, that's a T&A. I'm not ready to release that information. I'm just telling you that I'm excited that this guy got hired to do Jurassic World's follow-up, because I think he's a really talented director, and think what you will about Jurassic World. I think Colin Trevor was a really good director. I'm excited to see his Star Wars movie. Sixty not guaranteed. You know what, we'll see how Jay Bayona fares against like a bigger scale movie that has more like corporate interest involved, and I am saying yes, that may influence the script and director's ability to tell a cohesive story, right? But I wish him the best. I thought Jurassic World was really fun in a lot of parts, so we have that. I'm hearing that we have to take another break here. Do we have another Station ID break, our last one coming up? Oh, the end of show. We only have three... Do we get three sets? Yeah, we got three. Do we just blew through our fourth thing? Yeah. Wait, what time is it? We got... 49. Oh my God, yeah. Okay, so let's... Yeah, screw it. I don't need to keep talking. I've been talking this whole time. We all think the same thing. Oh, a jerk. We pretty much talked about a lot of stuff, but listen, if you walk away with one thing out of every moronic thing I've said in this hour, the one smart thing is go to Kickstarter, support a good friend, Chris Mancini, who's nice enough to give his time to come talk to you because he's got this comic book with Fernando Pinto, who also gave his time to make you the Geeks Give logo, which I'm wearing on my chest right now. His comic's called Long ago and Far Away, you can find it on Kickstarter, and they're halfway... They're over halfway to their goal, and they got two more weeks, so you definitely, definitely, throw them your shackles. Chris, where else can we find you? On Twitter, I am @ChrisJMancini, and you can find me a comedy film nerd, and then I have my own site, ChrisJMancini Online. You're trying to break away? What's going on with that? Oh, no, no. It's all goes back to comedy film nerds. Okay. Cool. But the directing is going okay. When are you getting... You know, in the current climate of Hollywood, you're just one indie movie away from getting like a Star Wars movie. Totally, totally. Well, we've got the documentary coming out this year. Okay. It's the podcasting documentary, which we also kickstarted. Okay. But we've been stuck in post-production for a fairly long time. What's going on with that? What it's done now, so just delays tech problems, and the thing about making a documentary for $140,000 and going all over the world to do interviews. I don't know what you're talking about. You can't do it. Yeah. You kind of can't do it. Went to Japan and Australia, and so now it's done where it's just starting. We haven't announced any film festivals yet, but it's just going to start playing festivals and it'll be out in the fall. That's exciting. It's got like Mark Marin. You should Tyler. Love the Night Vale. All those big podcasters. They have it in it. Cool. It's called Earbuds. Cool. So guys, there's going to be more news for that if you follow the comedy film nerds on Twitter, and of course, at their website. Again, Kickstarter, go to Kickstarter long ago and far away, get that comic book. It's going to be awesome, and you don't want to have to read about it later. You want to be able to read it as soon as it's released. On the bleeding edge. Guys, Geekscape. You know where to find us. We're going to be here every week at the hall, and for Kenny Craig, the folks in the engineering booth. I'm Jonathan London. You can find us on Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, all of that, and of course at Geekscape.net. We will see you guys next week with some more awesome guests, and thank you for listening. Kenny, anything else to say? Why don't you do your little sign off? Do yours. Do yours. You want me to do what you do? Do the higher, do the low. You do it. Please smart. That's a fitting ending. We'll see you guys next week