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Geekscape 405: Facing Our Demons With Bryant Dillon Of Fanbase Press!

Bryant Dillon is a longtime friend of Geekscape, mainly as one of the heads of indie publisher and news outlet Fanboy Comix! Now, Bryant returns to the show to announce their new branding as Fanbase Press! Bryant talks to us about the decisions going into the change and what it means for their fans! We also discuss my recent but undeniable addiction to Nintendo's Miitomo app and Kenny fills us in on the VR title 'Adr1ft'! And of course, what was up with that season finale of 'The Walking Dead'? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:: 44m
Broadcast on:: 05 Apr 2016
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[Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Hey, what's up Geekscapes? We're going to brand new GeekScape. We are here at our brand new time slot on Z Hollywood. And why don't we just listen to the-- [Music] [Music] Okay, that's enough. It's a new time slot and we have one engineer today. He's kicking ass though and we're on Z Hollywood and it's a sister site to T Radio V. It's under the same umbrella but we're here at 2 p.m. on Tuesdays now because you know what? Sometimes it's okay to have your evenings and those of you guys who are podcast listeners, you're none the wiser. Yeah, it doesn't matter when we record it anyway. Yeah, so be happy. They're probably like, "No, I want my Monday night Tuesday morning." Well, you know, it's going to be a few hours later and the world will keep spinning. Life will continue and that's the end of my singing. That's Kenny Craig. This is GeekScape. We talk movies, video games and comic books. We've been doing it for a while and we're doing it now with you as our listener. I'm Jonathan London. That's Kenny Craig. Every week we usually have a guest and he talks to the latest movies, video games and comics. With us, this week is Brian Dillon. Brian Dillon is, I think, the CEO, CFO, seat chief president, one of the heads of what you guys may remember if you're a GeekScape fan and you've been to the side a few times, we talk about this company called Fan Boy Comics and they put out a lot of indie books and they're high quality indie books and we become friends over the years. We've had dinner at their places. It's just Brian and Barbara Goode people and suddenly they're like, "You know what? We love GeekScape so much. We're also going to go through a brand change instead of- You guys did it. You can do it. You guys do it. What's our tea radio feed? Is it Hollywood? We can make a change too." I was like, "You guys getting a divorce?" I was like, "No. You idiot. We're going from Fan Boy Comics to Fan Base Press. So instead of Fan Boy Comics, which is the earlier iteration of the publishing imprint, now they're going to Fan Base Press and Brian was like, "He's here on the show to talk about it." It sounds so much more professional. That was the entire goal. It would be more professional. Please, sir. As you're talking about your profession, a little more into the mic, look at the distance that we have. Sorry, sir. Oh, is this better? Better? Oh, crisp tones. I'm a little shy at first. I'll warm up. No, it's okay. Please. So Brian, again, tell us why you changed the name from Fan Boy Comics. I mean, I see you guys at all the conventions. You guys have a press table, like a publisher table. How did you see your ... Where did you start and how did you guys see yourself at the point where you said we're going to do a brand name change? Well, I mean ... A rebranding. I guess the company's been around for five, six years now. We initially started out publishing comics. As you guys, I'm sure know, the production of a comic for an indie comic artist takes forever, especially if they have a day job. Sure. And so that just allowed us at Fan Boy Comics to find time to explore other options, to do podcasts, to start doing concavrage, reviews. But the initial idea was to do comic books. It was. You guys were like, "We're going to go into publishing." Yeah. Okay. Yeah, and this was sort of the idea of building an audience for that comic book, that first comic book that was being produced, as the artist was working on it, we were like, "Well, let's start building the audience now." Yeah. And once we have the finished work, they'll already be there to propose to, you know, to say, "Hey, check this out." Sure. Yeah, exactly. It sounds like drug dealing. It does. It doesn't ... Hey, we've got the new comic. But like, proposing is like, "I'm going to put this on your finger and you are mine." It's very, yeah. It is very formal. Yeah. And I mean, we all know fanboys. The percentage of success on those proposals is not very high. So I think it's time for a rebrand. Hey. It worked once or twice. It worked with me, at least. And Bryant. So I have a member of the club. The ratio in this room at least is pretty good. Yes, 66%. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. We need to add Kenny. Well, unless you add all of the amounts that everyone said no, and then it's like back to 4% for you. Are we counting those? Yeah. Yeah. We're counting all the notes. I don't know. I don't know. Mine count. Because it was kind of like a black snake moan situation where I had a change in the reader. You ain't leaving, girl. This is my take to a poem. That's it. I want you to wear the dress. So. And say yes. Say yes in the dress. So how's Excel did you guys think you were? Because you'd published several collections. Yeah, we've put out six books so far. We started getting in past comics. We started doing a horror poetry book in 2014. What's the audience for that? The audience? For a horror poetry? I wasn't entirely sure. We had the benefit of Bill St. Cabbage doing a cover for us for that book. We had the author Robert Pankabean, the screenwriter of Heavy Metal 2000, and well known in the horror community. So we figured there was a least fandom for the creators, but it's been really surprising. Horror poetry seems to hit people in a weird place where they're like, well, you know what? I don't like poetry, and I'm a little iffy on horror, but in horror poetry, I'll check that out. Horror poetry thing surprised you, and it's actually doing well for you. Doing really? It does really well. Wow. It's like mixing gangster rap and Abba, if someone did a mix, you're like, oh, that sounds horror. I have to listen to that. I have to listen to gangster rap, but together, have you ever heard of Super Mash Brothers? Yeah. I hate all those songs by themselves, but you put them together, and all of a sudden I'm like, I love this. It's so great. Horror poetry. It's probably the exact same thing. That's awesome. Dude, now I take the perfect nicks. Complications. And then where did it lead to the point where you guys looked at what you had built and said, okay, fanboy comics can only go so far. Fan-based press is what we're going to do from here on out, and you guys can find all this stuff at fanbasepress.com, by the way. Basically, it's a double issue. The two words in the title, fanboy and comics, both we felt we had outgrown to a certain extent. We have a really heavy female audience, and we have a strong female presence on our staff, and that's obviously been an issue that's been being discussed and geeked them recently quite a bit about how there is a new inclusion of female fans. Sure. And then you have a game world. They're called Grills. Wait, what? And video game girls are called Grills. Oh, really? Yeah, because they're like, "Grill, grill, grill, grill." Does everyone like, "Oh, my God, a girl." That's really funny. But yeah, obviously you want to feel inclusive. We want to feel inclusive. We feel like there have been some people that were unwilling to or prejudged us basically based on the fanboy name. And then in regards to press, I mean, like I said, we've been doing things like podcasts, news coverage, now poetry books. We have a few other books in the works, we're doing an audio drama. So comics was a little confusing for people as well when they were like, "Well, if you're comics, why do you have this and this and this?" and you're like, "Fine, I'll get rid of it." Jesus, rebrand it. Exactly. Exactly. Is there a stigma attached to the term fanboy? Do you think that, like, what is a fanboy to you? What do you think about it? Personally for me, I always thought I was hoping that for a long time it could be a gender neutral term. I always thought it was equal to fan or geek or something like that. But then once people started calling fan girls, you're like, "Oh, my God, I'm fan-girling over one direction." You're like, "Fuck." Exactly. It was completely divisive that fan person. Well, some of these really, some of the uglier things that have happened recently, people have sort of claimed this term and we've only seen some of the online harassment, some of the doxxing, stuff like that. What we felt was important was if some people are going to mistake us as potentially being on the wrong side of an issue, let's just correct that now, we're at a good place to reinvent ourselves, the comic thing was, as I said, sort of, we outgrown for us. You're still going to do them, but what do you think? I mean, are you still going to do comics? Yeah, yeah. We're not abandoning anything. It's really more of a paint job change, you know? I'm starting to draw one right now while you're talking. You pitch it to me. Excellent. It's called "Blankman," I can say. It's called "Superchair." It's called "Superchair." And he goes through time. Can he go through time? Can he go through time? But my wheelchair does not. And he saves marsupials from extinction. Wow. Only marsupials. I'll have a nice little place to live. You like your little pouch, your sidekick's called "The Quality Kid." It's going to be good. It's going to be fun. This sounds like a show for Cartoon Networkers. Well, I don't know about that because his battle cry is, "Let's go get some platter pussy." I don't know. Maybe a don't swim. Yeah. Yeah. He goes, "All right. Go on, kid. Let's go get some platter pussy." Whoa. Whoa. Hey. He can't say that. Come on. Get some platter pussy. Whoa. Hey. What's happening? You guys have a marsupial-friendly publication there. We do. I guess our possums marsupials? I don't know. I know their mammals. I don't know if they're marsupials. Yeah. Prudence potential. Yeah. We have a title called "Penguins vs. Possums," probably our most successful book. Seven issues out so far. The eighth issue is coming out probably around Kamikaze. End the war. There'll be a definitive answer. To the whether or not the penguins or the possums of war? Yeah. Yeah. It's a bloody war. It's leading to Armageddon. So Armageddon will occur in this final issue. Every human on the planet will have to choose a side. Penguins are possums. And wait, where is this taking place like geographically? Because based on that, I have a feeling I know which one will win. Well, it's a global conflict, but it did start during the time of the Pangaea supercontinent. Oh, okay. It's an age-old war, so it's been going for years and years. And that's now going to carry the fanboy press, or the fan base press. Yes, right, right. Why not go more violent on the name change and be like, "Let's just screw the fan." Fan stab press or something. No, no, no. You just get rid of the fan name and just go something completely new. You wanted to kind of transition? Yeah, you know, because the fan idea is not something that we want to abandon. I mean, we are very fan-focused. We at the company celebrate our own... Fandom? Fandom, yeah. Our own geekery, if you will. And that wasn't something we wanted to lose. We just wanted to make sure it wasn't the idea of, like, we always had to explain, like, "Oh, well, it's not just for boys," or, "It's not just for the hardcore fan." We wanted to basically be a place where, you know, if you're a hardcore geek, you can come and enjoy our stuff. But if you know absolutely nothing, you know, the door is open as well, so fan base seems to really serve that where it can be basically, you know, obviously, it reflects the idea of fandoms, but it also can be a base or a headquarters for fans. Yeah. Well, Geekscapes, we're going to take a spot break here at Z Hollywood, but when we come back, we're going to talk a bit more with Brian about the state of the comics industry, and we'll also talk about my latest addiction that basically stole my entire weekend. Uh-oh. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to wait for this break to hear about it. We'll be right back on Geekscapes. All right, we're back here on Geekscapes. I was just dancing to this music. It's good. Yeah. I like it. It's fun. It's like a little bit over 8-bit music. It's like 10-bit music. 10-bit music. 10-bit music. Yeah. It's like, I think it was like 16. I think so. Yeah. It had a little bit of kid chameleon going down on that bitch. Yeah. And the kid chameleon going down on that bitch. Yo. You'll play some of that kid chameleon up in this bitch. Hey. I want all 16 bits of that audible habit. No, I don't want no 8-bit chipped tunes. We got an upgrade. All right, girl. We got upgrade all the way to that 16-bit. All right. 32x. Sega CD. Yeah, fuck that lower crap and 8-bitty titties. Yo. We don't play that game right here, right? That's super 64, right? Just ain't no Bayou Billie Silly. Ah. What? Bayou Billie Silly? I don't know what we're doing right now. Obviously, video games are our major subjects here on Geekscape. We can't seem to get away from them. But what are you addicted to? This is my addiction. And again, we have Brian Dillon here. If you guys used to be fanboy comics, now it's fan-based press. You can find all these publications at fanboy press fan-- Yeah. I'm so sorry. I know. FanbasePress.com. It's fanbasepress.com. Give me a month. Okay. And I won't do that anymore. All right. We will re-record this in 28 days. That's why I posed the question. Why not just get rid of the whole-- why not just go ground zero and say, says the guy who took Geekdrum and turned into Geekscape. Okay. Never mind. Strike that from the record. Anyway, let's talk. So Nintendo, you knew it was coming. They're going to release this new app, right, for iOS and Android. I didn't know this. So Nintendo, who have been pretty big on-- Are they a big company? Well, what they're big for is that they have their proprietary titles, their first party titles. And they got the Mario's and the Zelda's and all this stuff. And they've got their Wii U and their 3DS, and they don't really do a whole lot of the hardcore games. Right. They let Sony and Microsoft kind of battle it out for that, with their PC master right on the skimmers. And we heard this rumor that Nintendo was getting into the mobile market. And we're like, okay, it'll probably be a Mario title or some kind of Zelda app or Metroid thing. Or what I want to see is a Pikmin dealio or Animal Crossing, eh, I'll choose Joe Scott. But what we ended up getting was announced a while ago was Mitomo based on their me characters that are your likeness in their Wii U and 3DS title, right? And then they released this app in Japan, and it immediately started breaking all these records. And the install base was like three, six percent of phones in Japan had Mitomo on it. And all it was, and I was not really looking forward to this. I was looking forward to the idea that Nintendo as a company was going to go into the mobile market and start proliferating their content, which I love, into the rest of my life. So the idea of a Mitomo thing felt like a head scratch to me. Although, it made sense that the me base that you have when you turn on your Wii U, there's a, what are we turning on your Wii or Wii U or your 3DS? Yeah, there's like a little character that jumps around in this place. It's a bit of a venue, I'm so sorry. It's like a bit of a menu, right? In the app, it makes sense that Nintendo would start with this base layer of, we're going to introduce you to the kind of narrator for your experience, you, your avatar. And then as we release future apps, because their list, they're going to release future apps, the Mitomo will be the home base for this and he will guide you through whatever Zelda title or Pikmin title or whatever we have. They release it and it's basically in Japan, you start reading about it, it's basically, you design your Mitomo and then you ask questions of other people, right? And you add your- Wait, you ask questions to other people? Yeah, so like, are you a people or just in the app? No, it's real people. Everybody in this game is real, as far as Mitomo concerned, but it's, it's, you can get the app. My friends can get the app. I added a crap ton from Facebook, some geeks gave us, some Twitter geeks gave us. You can add from Twitter and Facebook right off the bat and then you can start adding from your friends. And you can dress them. There's incentives. There's like a coin in currency that you can earn by asking questions. So, so I would go- so when you start the game, you make your likeness, you dress them and then it's like, and you have some extra coins if you start linking profiles and answering questions and the questions are like, what's your favorite color? Can you- Do you type in your own responses? Well, yeah. Oh, no. I was just making sure I didn't know you had to choose me. Right. I wanted like this is like- Yeah. There's profanity. Yeah. Okay. This isn't very big. Okay. Thank God. This is all I care about. I already unfriended somebody who like everything they wrote was penis, date, cock. But, and I was like, okay, I don't need to look up in my app. Let's warm it. Let's warm up to the stage of Mitomo. I never knew you unfriended me on that app. So, so you answer about five questions. You can probably answer more right off the bat. And these questions then go out to your friends list and they see your answers. And I think once they answer, their friends see the answers and they can all start this giant web of conversation. When you answer questions, you get coins that you can use to buy more outfits. And when you, when people like them, you know, there's little missions like get five likes in a day and you get this many coins. Oh, God. Answer this many questions or listen to your friends questions and you get this many coins. So there's an incentive to be a part of this conversation because you want these damn coins so you can buy an effing hot dog suit, which I love the hot dog suit. I have, I have the, listen, this is what I have. I have a, I have a big, like a giant baguette, like a baguette head. All right. I have a baguette head. I have the Mario suit, which I got as a gift for joining, linking with my mind and tendo account, which opened as well. I got a space suit, dinosaur suit. I have, I, there's a game called Meetomo Drop, which is like a pachinko machine, but you drop these little Meetomo's and sometimes you just end up with a candy, which you use to buy extra answers from your friends to find out what their responses are. But you can also land on certain platforms that may have pieces of costume to it. And I have landing on the same damn fucking thing and I ended up with these little cat shoes. I have every little cat shoe on that game, different colors because I just wanted a cat that's basically a scarf, but it's a cat and you play right around your neck or you have a cat on your neck. And I wanted to wear that. I wanted to wear that with maybe a hula skirt and roller skates with my baguette head. I have one question for you. And it was, are you still married after this weekend? There were points during the weekend where I said, look what my Meetomo is doing. And I turned it to Laura and I, and she just had to leave the room. Have you grabbed her phone yet and installed it and it like installed Meetomo and then asked her questions back and forth? Here's something that's cool about it, when you're making, when you're making your character, like you'd make on a Wii U or you'd make on a 3DS, you want it to be a close likeness or you want it to be a complete aberration of nature. Yeah, sure. Yeah. But you, one thing that's new is this, this voice processor kind of thing where you can augment the voice of your metomo in the, the damn thing actually talks to you. So whatever responses there are, different characters have different voices, like you would design your voice. I'd design my voice. It could be a high pitch, it could be a low pitch, you could have a different tone, different treble, whatever. And it's a pretty damn sensitive system. Everybody kind of sounds like a freak, but they sound like a different degree of freak. So it's like, "Hi, how are you?" Or it's like, "Really? Really?" But, you know, but you, you change it up and what's awesome is you turn on the volume on this game and these little bastards actually talk to you and they're saying hilarious things based on the answers that you read. All I know is it's a, a new community. It's fun. The, the thing went like straight to number one on the app, the, the web store, the iTunes store and all that, whatever it is. And, and I know a lot of you geekscapers who are listening came to visit my house, saw me in my baguette head wearing my space suit with 45 different, 45 cat shoes, kitty cat shoes, these little cats on the front of my shoes. And, uh, whatever, man, so I landed on a couple, uh, gender neutral platforms. I mean, just straight up girly platforms, but hey, I'm going to wear them with style. There have definitely been times when my friends have kind of visit my me, Tomo or my me, Tomo has just shown up in their house and I look like, exactly criminal. Everyone's like, "Oh, look, there's Jonathan." Exactly real life like this. Like it says, Jonathan's coming over for a visit door opens and this looks freak in nature because the thing is you can, you can level up and you level up. You can level up your popularity by based on how much you have, how many friends you have and how much interaction those friends have given you. Oh, it seems like high school. No, stop it. Yeah, this is what we tried to avoid. It only, it only avoided me. So, so you can gain levels in popularity by having people interact with your questions or you interact with those questions. You can also level up the second thing, which is style points and that means you just try different outfits, buy some new stuff, go to the nearest, switch it out, go visit the web store, buy some more outfits with your coins that you've earned, doing answering questions. Yeah, this sounds like, it sounds like the rest of my life is going to be sad and pathetic. This is the construction of a human being. Like, am I going to, like if I install this app, am I going to be like, "Hey, answer your friend's questions so you can give them 15 points and you can get 15 points in return." This is like fucking farm though. Like, on Facebook, and like, I'm like, where you have to block every, I have to block my grandmother on Facebook to get rid of fucking farm. Yeah, but Facebook is an app in a community that you open for other reasons. This you're going to answer the questions. You open it to see what the fun responses are and to see if you can get the kitty cat. I want to see what the deletion rate of this is, this app is after the first week. You should be damn mouth. Because let me tell you, right now I'm just hoarding money, like I bought my cool space suit and everything, but now I'm like hoarding money because I know those link outfits are coming. I know the Luigi outfit is coming, I know the Pikmin outfit is coming, I know this crap is coming and so I'm hoarding all this gold and I'm answering like a motherfucker just so I can get those outfits when they hit. I want that mention. I want to say I'm a suit. You're not going to need to hoard all this gold to be the richest man in this game because after next week and no one else is going to be playing it. You watch your mouth, okay? A bunch of Japanese people can't be wrong. Remember World War two, wait, all right, that's a good enough place to stop for a commercial break here on Z Hollywood. When we come back, we probably won't mention me Tomo again, but we will be talking more with Bryant from fan base press and we'll be talking about some other things, maybe of what Kenny's been playing in video games, we'll be right back here on Geekscape. All right, welcome back to Geekscape, give me two seconds, I have to add a couple friends. Hey, can I see your friend or your phone for a second, Jonathan? No. I just want to see it for three seconds. Don't do this. I just want to see your phone. You're going to delete my Tomo. No. But here's the thing about deleting it is linked to my my Nintendo account, so even if you delete it, it's still going to keep my... Yeah, but out of signage. Out of mind. I did that. You know what, I did that with Clash of Clans this week. And? It was huge, but I had to make... I only deleted Clash of Clans because I had to make room for this in my life. But did it work? Yes, I don't play Clash of Clans anymore, but it is. So everyone really didn't work. So everyone just needs everyone to bombard Jonathan with his next addiction. You know what they say about addiction is like you just transfer them? Right. It's like, oh, hey, I quit drinking in heroin, but now I just smoke cigarettes all goddamn day. Yeah. And drink coffee. I'm going to inject my Tomo right into my toes. Oh my god. My wife doesn't know that I'm playing it. That might tell you. She's like, you're not playing that game anymore. I'll be like, no. I'll walk in a fucking space with a donkey thing on my head. It's like, I don't know her. So listen, I'm not the only one playing video games around here. I'm not the only guilty party. Kenny is actually guessing on Geekscape Games this week, if Shane releases it. So we're recording it on Thursday. It's going to happen. Oh god. So we all had a meeting about scheduling and stuff of how we're taking this seriously. You want to hear something hilarious? Yeah, I just did. Yeah. Shane was like, all right. I want everyone to be on time. Oh my god. So look for that in two weeks. Look for Kenny. So Kenny, if you actually want to talk about any pertinent games that are out now, you can. Yeah. No, I've been playing a game called the Drift. It's like it's a drift. A drift. A-D-R. Number one. Oh, got it. F's. That's like F-T. That's a 404 games. Yeah. Those guys were up here. Yeah. Yeah. They did, um, How to Survive. Yeah. Right? And yeah, they did How to Survive. Like that. How to Survive the first person edition and the second one, which those were great games. Yeah. Like I played that and those were great co-op games. This game's a drift. It takes place. It's exactly what kind of would you think from the name. It takes place in a space station and you wake up and you're this female astronaut named Alex Oshima and she is the last survivor on a, like a space station. And once you go outside, you're, you're, and you also have an oxygen leak. So what happens? You wake up in the space station. The entire space station is shattered to bits. Okay. So like an asteroid storm or like a meteor shower. Something happened and you don't know and you have no idea and this game was specifically made for VR. Oh, so it's first person. For you, first person, your, your head is inside the helmet of the astronaut. And I will say. Depleting oxygen. Yep. Depleting oxygen. You have to find oxygen while you're going. And it's like, it's a crazy mixture between relaxing and intensity. Right. Like because I just want to give yourself to death. Yeah. You just want to, you just want to float to the atmosphere and see if you burn out, but the oxygen doesn't last long. Wait. Oh, you can't even get to the atmosphere. Yeah. Well, I, I actually tried it. I won't tell you what happens. Okay. I won't tell you what happens, but I actually tried doing that. Once I got enough oxygen. Um, is this a PC master race only, um, game or is this available like the Xbox one and PS4? That's a good question. I, I, I, will you know my Thursday? Yeah. I'll know my Thursday. Okay. Or if anyone has Google. So you'll know in three weeks, unless you Google on my Thursday in November. Yeah. Thanksgiving day. Um, yeah. It's a nine month old podcast. Have you heard of this game called the drift? Yeah. Um, but yes, uh, it's like visually one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen. Sure. It's, it's so immersive and I wasn't even playing it in VR. So if you like, if anyone has a chance to play like in VR, I know it's super expensive right now, but I can only imagine what it was like, like the, the story's a little bit light on it. Not that great. Um, but like visually, I didn't even give a shit. Like this is like the sander bloke movie. Yes. Gravity. Gravity. It's exactly like gravity, except, um, imaginary George Clooney doesn't hop into your space. You're always, I mean, that seems like a pretty fatal situation. It is. The space station that's being destroyed is the goal to get to a couple of other safe places or, or is most of it just, Hey, this is how you're going to spend your time before you die. Um, made I was hoping that actually both because I've, I've spent many, many times just looking at shit and then all of a sudden, my character's like, Oh, fuck, I forgot air. Like it's coming from the hedgehog. We need to breathe those bubbles. Oh, wherever your underwater. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so there's a whole story. You, um, find different data things along the way and you hear audio logs to unravels the story. And your goal is to basically turn different, uh, like, excuse me, um, like, fuck this mic. Um, you have to like float across the entire space station, like fixing things so you can get back to the, um, skate pod, skate pod to get back home because it's beyond, it's beyond repair. Right. You can't do it. And, um, uh, yeah, every single time on it, um, it probably, it took me probably six, seven hours. Um, so an average per, like, no, but I'm like kind of a completionist and I, I'm not just fuck around the entire time I play a video game. So probably would take it probably about four hours if you just do the game straight forward. Yeah. It's just like a full 20 bucks. 20 bucks. Okay, perfect. 20 bucks. Like it's worth it just for just aesthetically alone and it's worth it. And it's a cool game. I definitely recommend it. I definitely recommend it for anybody. That sounds awesome. Um, I, that kind of goes in the, like, that's about as much time as I can put into a console or PC game, like, well, the good thing about the addiction I currently have is I can play the stupid little game for a minute at a time. In the car while you're driving. Right. So that's what you need. So you just, that's all we need to do. Just, just wait for Pokemon go to come out and then it's like, what a fatality, right? Would just give you a VR system that you could use while you drive. Oh, I mean, didn't they create that, uh, at Magic Mountain, they have a VR rollercoaster? I, I, I live right near Magic Mountain and for a half for seven years and I've never been. You've never been a Magic Mountain? You want to go? You want to go, Jonathan? It's a little overpriced, but I'll go with you. Uh, they do have a rollercoaster that while you're on the real world rollercoaster, they put a VR headset on it. So even though you're riding a rollercoaster, the VR headset is, you're in a fighter jet fighting alien and an alien invasion. So it's like Independence Day on a rollercoaster. That's actually kind of cool. Yeah. What would be hilarious if they did the VR headset and have, and have the, like you're actually in a rollercoaster in the VR, but do it the ever exact opposite of what the real thing is doing. So you're going right in real life and then the VR is going left. So you learn that you lean left to get ready for it and then it's like, I'm not even worried about that. It's the up and down though. Just make it a yak. Oh man. If you're like, yeah, I wasn't ready for that at all. You can make it off and start crying. Oh, that's insane. The other, uh, okay. So the other experience we all had collectively was the Walking Dead finale. This is an hour and a half Walking Dead finale to this current season, which I think a couple of these episodes have been awesome. I think the episode with Carolyn Maggie, but we're kidding if it was a smaller episode? That was one of them. My favorite one. My favorite one. So it's fantastic. This one though introduces Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Negan. We all have read the comics and we know the Negan character in this issue 100 huge moment from the comics. We won't spoil anything here, but the internet reaction to this episode was not, I would say, mixed towards negative. Like, they... Why? People weren't like to it. I just wanted to watch the season finale, the series finale Sopranos again. Well, the... I think I don't know where people are landing on this thing other than it's getting negative Twitter reaction. I try not to spend too much time reading into that stuff because it'll eat up your day and you're just like, wait, I just sat here and read a bunch of A-holes opinions that don't really matter. Yeah, they don't matter. By the way, I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. Hey, Holly, we're talking about my opinion. So you guys should listen to it. But I think the gist of it was that there was no answer to who Negan killed because in the comics, he's captured our survivors. He put them on his knees and he's playing Eenie Minnie Mo to who's head they're going to bash in. And in the comics, if you guys haven't read it, who dies? Well, there's actually an answer to the comics in that issue that you bought and secured. In the TV show, he goes Eenie Minnie Mo and they start getting a little artsy about the blocking of who he's actually landing on. And then when he actually lands on the individual and starts smashing their brains in. We're playing a drift. Yeah. It's the first person. You just hear the crunch and you see the bat coming down and the blood starts appearing on first person. They go over their eyes. You in the screen and then the body falls forward. And we're left with a Who Shot JR situation for the entirety of the summer until this show comes back in October, potentially in October. And it's like a whole summer at Comic Con and everything, people are going to be asking who do you think Een killed? You can ask the writers. And they're like, well, we had a disagreement of who should die. So we're like, let's not tell anybody. No, Scott Gimple has said, former Geekshape guest, Scott Gimple has said that he knows how episode seven starts. They had something come out today where someone's isolated some audio from the finale. And apparently you hear some character names. So I guess if you really want to dig for it, there's potentially an answer out there. But there's also a book with an answer. Oh, no. There's an actual comic book with an answer. But that's the crap right there that is the waste of time is that you're sitting there and you're like, I'm going to replay it 30 times until I find out something that gives me a 1% better feeling of what might have happened in this episode. Where do you get the time for that? I understand Bryant reading that because the waste of time work has been done for him. He can show up and be like, OK, I'm going to read this because, you know, whatever I'm curious. There's a backlash. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I understand. See, in high school, you don't want to copy the answers because that's your damn future. On the internet, you can copy the answers because then you're clever. It's all right. You will definitely. It's just you're combating your own impatience, but go live a life. Yeah. I hate to tell you, but like, there's other things to do than sit there and replay the damn scene backwards and forwards and see if it's satanic messages backwards and then like, come on, people just wait. People are obsessed with this show, much like they're obsessed with like a lot of shows, Game of Thrones and another one. But I think the difference in, and I kind of, I've been reading sort of where the season's going. I've read the comics, but I left the show back in season five. I haven't proceeded through mid to season five. There's, I think this is transparently a gimmick, you know. There's storytelling and then there's this feeling that Walking Dead toys with every so often. It's like every couple episodes where they're like, oh, this is just to get you to turn in next week. It has no other purpose. It's not dramatic. It's not artistic. Oh, I think that would be weird for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at least with that, they were like, don't worry. You'll live. Like you're the audio afterwards. Yeah, the king. Oh, like they did that with like, what's his name? Glenn. Yeah, Glenn. Glenn getting his guts ripped out. They realized it was just a corpse on top of Glenn, and that he hit under a dumpster miraculous study. Yeah. You know, it's not my show. That's all I got to say. It's not my show. I don't have control of this. And if you guys don't like it, turn it off. I'm going to keep watching it. Ultimately, that's all we're talking about and it applies to Geekscape too. If you don't like it, turn it off. I hope you don't because we're about to take a break and we've got a whole lot of a lot more Geekscape coming, but we are going to take that break here on Z Hollywood and we'll be right back to talk a little bit more with Bryant, some more Kenny, and I'm going to check my mute helmet on the break. And we'll tell you which one of us dies. Hopefully I'll break. All right, Geekscape is back on Z Hollywood! I think that may have been the kicker that really caused people to turn this crap off. Anyway, this is Geekscape. We're going to talk a little bit more movies, video games and comics. We're sitting here joined by Bryant Dillon from Fan Base Press. And Bryant, why don't you talk a little bit about the immediate future of Fan Base Press. You guys were at Wondercon. Did you guys weren't there as publishers though? Well, I saw you guys running around as press too. Yeah, we do both. Yeah, well, we just-- We just-- We just-- We usually always have a table so that we can, you know, obviously be offering what we publish our publishing line and make some money to pay for the parking. Sure. Oh, yeah. $20 parking a day. Yeah. But we also do press at most of the major cons. We had a number of interviews at Wondercon. We had a couple panels that were really exciting. All this stuff is on fanboycomics.net right now. If you want to check out those interviews and panel coverage. If you go to fanbase press.com, like this is just points of fanboycomics. Yeah, well, right now there's a place holder. So for fan base press, that's just going to be the placeholder for now. And then once May 2nd hits, that's the official switch. Oh, okay. And so fanboycomics.net will just point directly to the new website, and that'll be uploaded on May 2nd. That's awesome. Good. And as far as the future, I mean, going into Comic Con, what are the releases that you talked about the Penguins vs. Possums coming out in October? October. We have the final issue of Penguins vs. Possums, and there'll probably be a second trade of those issues in early 2017. And other than that, we've got an audio drama adaptation of Robert J. Peterson's sci-fi comedy novel, The Odds. We're working on that right now. It's sort of Mad Max meets Big Trouble in Little China. Do you guys do the full reading on it? Like, every beyond. You literally do every word of that novel or do you? No, no. We're editing it down. We're going through the writing process right now with Bob. And I mean, we've been doing that for maybe like seven, eight months. Sure. But yeah, we're whittling it down to 11 episodes. I mean, there's more than chapters than 11. So, I mean, you're definitely cutting things, combining characters, things like that, making it work for the auditorium medium. I mean, how many people listened to these audio dramas, because you guys did the ones were based on... Yeah, we did a fan project that wasn't through fanboy comics, but it was a few of us that worked there that was called Katniss Chronicles, came out before the Hunger Games films, and it was just the adaptation of the novels. And there was like all three novels covered, 70 plus episodes, full cast, full sound effects. Wow. How long are they each episode, basically? Shh. Between 20 minutes and an hour. Wait, what? How many of you do? 70 plus. Oh, what the hell? We do over 70. Three seasons of television. We do over 70 hours of audio. I really liked that story, everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I listen to audiobooks as well. So, I would love to hear that. I mean, anybody who spends that much time in front of a microphone is... It is ridiculous. Wait a minute. Yeah. Someone's pointing fingers at himself. No. In this next one, the odds, you guys are up the production value, how many hours do you see that thing going? This one's going to be more like a Netflix miniseries. It's going to be probably 12 to 15 episodes. They'll all be available in some manner online. We're still figuring out whether we're going Audible or iTunes or whatnot, but we'll have a component that you can, some sort of physical component so you can buy it at conventions as well. I'm thinking a USB or something like that. But we're still working out those details, I mean, and this one's going to be entirely different. I mean, the Katniss Chronicles was very faithful to those novels. This has got a lot more of a hard-r edge to it. Yeah. It's very sci-fi. Yeah. Exactly. Batman is Superman, but with a lot more fun. Yeah. But enjoyable. But not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Oh, no spoilers. Enjoy. No spoilers for Kenny. If you guys actually want full spoilers, Ian, Kerner and I did a good one. I listened. Very good. Very good. Yeah. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed your thoughts on the film. Yeah. Was I kind? Was I fair? I think it was fair. You were. I thought you were very fair. Okay. All right. That means he's thought I was too nice. I thought you were too nice. How dare you? When you do like these audio dramas, how do you record them? Do you do like the old radio dramas or everyone's in the same room, or is it all just individual? Like they would do it with pretty much any voiceover. It's mostly like a typical voiceover work. Most people are recorded separately. The audio producer that we're using, Sam Rhodes, who is actually a co-founder of Family Comics. He's built an audio booth in his apartment, essentially out of one of the closets. It works incredibly well. You guys rebranded just to cut him out. Exactly. There was a feud. It was like he's part of fanboy comics. So fan base. Fan base. The Hyatt tier of the two. Yeah. I mean in Hollywood. Everything's fine with Sam. He was actually going further into audio production and acting, and so we're still working with him on this project. But after that, you're done. But after that, never again. Fuck. Never again. Where's my number? Can we still use your recording booth? Yeah. But yeah, that project should be really exciting. We've got some potential talent, name talent, that would be one to be involved. Kenny. Yeah. The cast of Geekscape Games. Yeah. Oh, say more. Anyone who has a voice. Can I be on it? Shane's going to hear me. Shane's going to go. I'm going to go on to hear me. Shane's going to be like, can you hear her Skype? Yeah. That's Shane. What's that clapping sound in the background? I'm watching a video. Shit just sounds skin on skin though. So if you need any like, like a fully audio, we've got this right here. We just dramatized Shane doing a list of things to himself while watching punny videos. Maybe you guys should. We needed a whole audio drama community. Yeah. Yeah. We're like that dude from Police Academy. Michael Winslow. Michael Winslow. We're going to cut those 30 seconds and we're going to put it, we're going to put it on Audible. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're going to do it. We're selling audio drama. Shane's journey. You're listening to Shane's journey. Man, I swear Shane called me yesterday to relay a story and I just thought that he was calling to be like, hey, can you not make fun of me anymore? Was it about a woman? No. It's about Eric Diaz. I just wanted her. We're more writers who we love and Eric's always got a home here. I feel like a lot of our former writers have a home here. So he was just calling to let me know how he's been. Because he ran into one of my guests that they've been talking, but if Eric ever needs anything, he always called me, but he called Shane because Shane's cute. Jesus Christ. What's up? Your favorite thing. I have everything that you guys have. Yeah. Somebody wants to go to familiespress.com. What would you recommend? What would you recommend? What would be the top thing? Yeah. I think I would definitely say check out Penguins vs. Possums. I think it's something appeals to everyone if you're really in the comics, if you're not in the comics at all. It's a little wacky. It's a little epic. So definitely, I would say check out Penguins vs. Possums as well. I'm one. Okay. Okay. So guys, this is the new time slot for Geekscape, 2PM Pacific Standard Time on ZHollywood. And you know what? I like it because it's been some evenings working. Yeah. I mean, the thing is it's like, oh, free up an evening, and I'll just be working. But I love what I do. Kenny likes what he does, and it's easier for Kenny. It's easier for me. And everybody here at ZHollywood is very supportive of the change. So sorry for getting in the podcast a few hours a little later. We're very happy we still have the same producers. But you know what? We have the same engineers. They love us. They were like, I'm going to switch to Tuesdays. If you guys switch to Tuesdays, because we love you guys, so I love the support here. And we're setting it up to just keep rocking. So I think this was episode 405 of Geekscape. I think you guys have been listening for the entirety, or if you've just been listening to the last hour. I'm Jonathan London. You can find everything Geekscape at geekscape.net. We're on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube at geekscape.net, either geekscape.net or GeekscapeTV. Everything is @crippledkenny on Twitter, and where can we find all the fan base press stuff? Definitely. Go to fanboy comics right now. We'll switch over everything on the second. So it's fanboy comics with an X on Twitter, it's the same on Instagram and online where fanboycomics.net. Okay. And again, guys, like fanbasepress.com will also forward you to a couple of those landings. So for Brian, Dylan, thank you so much for being here at Work Geekscape. We're going to be here next week. Thank you guys for listening. And we'll see you guys next time. Thanks, guys. Bye. for watching. for watching. for watching. for watching. for watching. for watching. for watching. for watching. for watching. For watching. For watching. For watching. For watching.