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[Music] ♪ Comics, movies ♪ ♪ Red and ginger that we're going to ♪ ♪ Redis, freedoms ♪ ♪ For what's it about to be ♪ ♪ A sense of the ♪ ♪ It's still ♪ ♪ In the world behind ♪ ♪ All your friends are waiting ♪ [Music] Hey, what's up Geekscapes? That's the Geekscapes theme song. I'm Jonathan London and it's -- [Music] I was doing so well. It was so great. You had the energy. And then I had to talk. Yeah, well then you had to say a word with the T-I-T and an H next to each other. You're like, "Sorry." That went to theme song. I'm Jonathan London. If this is your first Geekscapes, we're going to be talking about his movies, "Giddy Games," comic books, TV, all the stuff that's pretty genre, pretty nerdy, pretty pop culture. And we're going to be talking about that with our good co-host Kenny Craig. He's over there. Now you're doing a job. That's the boy. And he's my co-host. And we're having fun. And we're joined by a guest every week. My guest is running late. Mr. Jeff Gund, who runs the info list here in Los Angeles. It was just kind of an entertainment networking list. He also has events, parties. You know what? Let's just be frank. I invited him on the show so he can finally invite me to parties. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I've been a one in full list party. I had a lot of fun at it. And never gotten invited again. It might have done-- I lit a couple of years old. Yeah, I did it. Yeah, that was-- Have they even had another one? Or is it like, or is it-- You know what? According to other people's Instagrams, they've had several just not-- Wow. With me. Yeah. I thought it'd have been like, Seep Grove's character and Anchorman were like, "Oh, how's your charity golf tournament?" Nope, can't have it. Honestly, many people died last year. Kenny, that was you. Let's just be frank. Like, would I really be doing a show called Geeks K if I was invited all the parties? I think the fact that I don't get invited to the parties gives me enough credibility to do this show. So-- That's true. Like, if you meet a quota of number of parties you go to every year, it diminishes your health. You know? I don't get invited to shit. Let's just face it. Do you want to go a party with me? Really? No. I don't know. I need to get invited one first. But once someone invites me, I'll invite you along with it. Kenny, I love to go to a party with you. But every time we get invited to a party, they just end up pantsing me. It's like, I'm the guy who gets invited to, like, just get fucked with it. So-- That's because everyone at the parties are in wheelchairs. That's really easy to pants people singing out. All I got to say is, when Jeff does show up, and I called him, he's running a little late in traffic. When he does show up, he's got some explaining to do. Yeah. Because, yeah, no, we cannot continue to perpetrate this stereotype that Geeks are not allowed to go to parties. Because we are a party here on Geekscape. Yeah. We're a party nine years running, baby. And people keep leaving. Yeah. Hey, do you want to go anywhere now? Where else? We were just at Geekscape for eight and a half years. Yeah. We're one of those parties where, when it turns 1 a.m., you can't say no. Oh, Jesus. I'm like one of those frat parties. Because everyone's asleep at 1 a.m., and I can't say no. The frat parties are all like the doors. It's like whoever's inside, astroglyte. Whoever's inside. We're inside of. That's Geekscape. If you're here and you're listening to this, it's too late to leave. Is that why you don't go to any parties anymore? Because if you went to that one party, you had that experience. And now you think that's the experience I am that guy. I'm that guy. I'm that guy who is like, wait, that's only for the girls, right? Nope. Nope. You'll find out. This goat is for you as well. It's done. I do want to pause and say, I do appreciate all the Geekscapists who are longtime Geekscapists. Some of them, I get to know only through social media, like Matthew MacGyver, who's in Toronto. He's a great guy, and I had no idea that he had had some health ailment. Like a stroke. What the hell? And like, he's a young dude, but I guess he hadn't been taking care of himself. But he told this story on Facebook, which was close to St. Patrick's Day, about how he almost choked the death on a shamrock shake when he like left the hospital. After his stroke or heart attack, whatever the hell he suffered. Shamrock shake, that's like the seasonal one. Yeah. Is it McDonald's? Yeah, McDonald's. And he barely had any use of anything at this point. He was still kind of in recovery. Didn't know if he'd ever recover from this thing. And he's like, you know what, I want a shamrock shake. He had some change and stuff, went like wheeled himself or dragged himself. I don't know. It was like The Walking Dead. Over like McDonald's down the way. And Matt, if you fucking are fucking with me with this story on Facebook, bro, you killed it because I'm falling for it and telling it right in here on the geekscape. He goes and gets the shamrock shake. He like, like crippled dribbles that done his throat. Realizes like it went down the wrong pipe, is half choking, like he can't ask for help. He could barely mumble to the woman that he wanted the shamrock shake. He gets it back. This is Matt MacGyver who's been a long time geekscape since the beginning. And he was almost killed by a shamrock shake, which I think that's a pretty Darwin award. No, no, Darwin award is like, when you're doing something you shouldn't be doing. Drinking a shamrock shake, going to McDonald's, like, that's bad. But we've all been guilty of it. Yeah, but he just had a stroke or whatever, and he's dragging himself too. He's using half of his brain literally at that moment. Yeah, but I don't think anybody assumes that drinking a shamrock shake is a life challenging, like it's not a risk. The epiglottis is a bitch. Right, so Matt, I hope you're doing better. But what was cool about the post was it talks about, like, how he kicked his ass into shape, and he's doing better or at all. The person I want to shout out to as well is Miles Harvard, also in Toronto, whose mom is dealing with some stuff, and he put it out on Facebook on blast. Just said, I'm going to be out with it. So I feel like I can talk about it and just let him know that from the geekscape family you've been a part of all these years, dude, we're with you, we hope you're putting smiles on your faces, and we hope you're happy, and it really sucks that you went to the Canadian Expo and wanted to talk to Casper Van Dean, because he sent me a picture that Casper Van Dean was sending autographs, who was recently on geekscape, and he wanted to go up to him with his kid and be like, "Hey, I loved you on geekscape." But as soon as he started walking down the autograph aisle, they were stopped and said, "If you actually want to approach the celebrities, you're going to have to buy a ticket." So it's like $40, $50 just to go up and say, "Hi, you were great on geekscape." And honestly, geekscape is if people who you like have been on geekscape and you see them on social media or you see them at a convention season starting up, we got WonderCon this coming weekend. I'm going to be there, go up to these people at conventions who've been on geekscape and say, "Dude, I loved you on geekscape. It really helps us out. It does us a service for these guys to hear, and ladies, for these people to hear, "Hey, I really enjoyed your geekscape," because they'll tell other people to come on, they'll come back, usually I don't feel much better about being on the show, you know? - They're feeling better about like wasting an hour. - Yeah, exactly, they feel so down afterwards that's the first time someone finally mentioned it to them. - But really, if there's anybody you want to see on the show, send them a message, send them a tweet, send them, whatever, it's a stocking is infinite on the social media at this point. - And it's legal. - So stock the hell-- - But it may not be, it may not be actually. - I completely give you guys carte blanche to stock in the name of geekscape. It's like, "Stop in the name of love." No, it's stock in the name of geekscape. Go out there, find the people on social media you want to have on the show. I'll talk to anybody, we've proven that. And just go out there and say, "Hey, you should go "on geekscape, it's a good show, I listen to it." And you know, convention, social media, wherever you find these people, just go up and talk to them. - Because, I just don't see that we're going to end the show. I'm going to keep doing the show, I love doing the show, and I love talking to people. - And also restraining orders are really, really difficult to enforce online. - It's almost impossible, I just get a VPN, you're good. - Yeah, I'll do the show from Canada or Mexico if I need to. - And hey, hey, Obama went to Cuba. - Oh, he did? - He did from Cuba, yeah. - He did. Well, they're restraining order, I mean, they can't really, like, those things don't shift countries, do they? - You're restraining orders? - Yeah. - Only one way to find out. - Yeah, so if anybody ends up getting freaked out, the geekscape is getting a little too much heat. - We're coming to you live from Cuba. - Hey, Cuba, hey, that was in Cuba. - Hey, hey, hey, we're not allowed to use the internet or the radio, so fucking-- - We're still talking into sex. - Chickens in 1950s cars doing kickbacks in the background and it's like, "Boom, boom, boom!" There's a bunch of fucking music and stuff. Yeah, we'll do it from Cuba. - Sure. - I'll leave a damn plantain on the air, I don't care. It'll be fun. - That's all you will eat the rest of your life. - No, in Cuba, I'd probably get tortured. - Well, that would be the last thing. - Yeah, in the Bay of Pigs, yeah. - Bay of Pigs too, that's what we'll call the geekscape episode. - Yeah, so geekscape, it's just something to think about. That's that, that's our business, okay? The other piece of business that is big here for you geekscape listeners, I'm just going right down the line, is this is our last show on T-Radio V. Yeah, I know. - I'm in a tier coming out of my eye. - I know, our last show on T-Radio V, 'cause, "Hey, we're getting the upgrade!" - Oh, yeah! - Here at T-Radio V, our good friend Michael Zenna, who runs T-Radio V, has kind of formed, kind of taken T-Radio V and he's separated it, right? - Yeah. - He's allocated the D-League, T-Radio V, and he's got the A-League, the more Hollywood-style, right? The more celebrity-centered, Hollywood-centered shows here on T-Radio V. - And then what are we gonna be called? - We're going to see Hollywood, baby, I don't. So Mike Zenna, who runs it, he's gonna come on the show next week for a little time and just talk about what the whole deal is with geekscape, now going to Z-Hollywood. I gotta be honest, I'm gonna miss you guys at T-Radio V, but we're gonna be recording for the exact same-- - We're gonna be recording for the exact same-- - We're gonna be recording for the exact same-- - The exact same location. - We're not gonna miss shit. - We're gonna miss you so much, looking through that same glass fella. - Instead of saying we're here on our home, T-Radio V, we're gonna say geekscape, coming to you from our new home, Z-Hollywood, hey, Z-Hollywood. Yay, we made it, we got off the developmental league. I feel like we got a 10-day contract in the NBA. Woo, let's start launching shots. - I'm really happy that we have seven days before it's happening because you have seven days to practice that intro, right? - I'm not kidding, this is not coming out-- - Oh yeah, 'cause I haven't had nine years to get this out of my system. They're like geekscape, we can practice right now. Geekscape, coming to you from Z-Hollywood, yay! And then in Cuba, in Cuba, we can shoot machine guns near. - Oh, okay, cool. Oh my God, Latinos, right here, right here. - You know, I learned that those bullets coming down actually won't murder someone. - Get the fuck out of here. - No, they don't, terminal velocity's not fast enough for the bullets to kill someone on the way down. You can shoot guns in there. - I mean, it would hurt a little bit, but what's the worst I could have? - No, wait, in Texas, I heard so many stories about those bullets coming back down and going through like the hooded cars and shit. You think that won't go through the skull? - That person stuck a handgun on the fucking hooded car and shot it. (laughing) - And they were drunk and didn't remember it. - Yeah, it was Texas, so maybe. - But, that kind of stuff doesn't happen. And Z-Hollywood, something new live from Cuba. - We're coming to you live from Cuba, Z-Hollywood. I hate you! - People are so confused right now. The police gave us are like, I don't know what to do. I'm going to stop listening now. After all these years, I'm done. - Finally, once they're changing. - This guy's an asshole. Geeks gave us, let's just pause for a station identification. One of our last used station identification's here on Z-T radio V, now I also have to get this. You know what, after that crap. Mike's probably going to walk in here and be like, yeah, you know what, you're not on Z-Hollywood either. But, let's pause here. We're going to take a break. I'm going to go make sure that my guest isn't dead. And we'll be right here on Geekscape talking to Jeff Gunn. And, let's talk Batman vs Superman and Daddy or Devil. Season two, yeah, on Geekscape! (cheering) (upbeat music) - All right, we're back on Geekscape, yay! We did it! - We saved the universe! Yay, yay, we're going to miss T-Radio V. T-Radio V is not going to miss us. But, you know what, in all honesty, I'm flattered that Mike was like, hey, I've selected some shows to be on my new channel. And, you're one of them. And, it's cool. So, I'm excited. You guys can even go to zHollywood. I think it's zHollywood.com, zHollywood.net or one of those, and we're on there. We're right next to Eric Roberts, which is cool. 'Cause he was in, he was in another Hollywood themed movie. - Oh, what's he? - Nominated for Oscar for Star 80! - No way. - Do you ever see Star 80? - I never saw Star 80. - Pretty good. He played a guy with a restraining order. - It all comes back. - It all comes back. - Did he move to Cuba to get away from it? - No, Star 80 is a pretty good movie, but it's about Dorothy Stratton, the Playboy Playmate who moved from Canada to LA in her stalker case. He plays the stalker, and he was nominated for an Oscar. - You wouldn't think he'd play a really good stalker or anything. - That's odd. - Well, you know I don't do not talk trash. - Because you make it better. - No, we're in the same dugout now as him. That's a sports reference here on Geeks Gape. We're gonna give you a few more before the hour is done. So joining us right now is our good friend, Jeff Gund. He runs the info list here in Los Angeles, and I guess really anywhere. Jeff, talk to the audience. Tell them really, all I know about the info list is that every now and then our good friend, Yuka Kobayashi, or some of the folks at Stanley's Comic-Kazu will invite me to an info list party or an info list event. And I really don't know where it started. I don't know anything about it. I'm a dummy. - No, first, yeah. - So talk into the mic, please. Please, yeah, there you go. - I mean, Yuka and the whole gang over at Stanley's Pound Entertainment in Comic-Kazu. - Yeah. - They're all awesome bunch of people. So my truly favorite people on the planet. And hopefully I'm somewhere in one of their group of favorite people, but I'm a fan of that. - I was with Keith Trellons. - You know what, I was with Keith Trellons early today. He's one of the, he and Regina are partners at Comic-Kazu. And I'm hosting Comic-Kazu all year long again at the stream tomorrow night. So if you guys wanna watch that, it's on an 8 p.m. Pacific Standard Time at thestream.tv. But he was, had very nice things about you. They said very nice things about you, Jeff. - Good day, good day. - But what's the story with the info list? Like, what's the history behind it? 'Cause I just know people who are signed up to it and you guys send out like entertainment jobs, networking events, you run parties. Where did all come from? - Yeah, it's all pretty much. It's all entertainment industry. It's information on jobs and opportunities for filmmakers and writers, casting stuff, a lot of TV shows cast through me, TV shows, commercials, films too, to like networking events, seminars, but all entertainment industry related information. And it started, I actually had no intention of creating anything. - Right. - And it really was just like 15 years ago. Just being a good friend. I was out there networking, doing my own thing. Actually, I started the industry as a composer. I was doing music for film and TV and stuff. And all the networking I was doing for that. I'd be meeting people who were like talented filmmakers and like awesome actors and just creative people who just like were having trouble getting worked, just doing what they love to do. - Sure. - And just being a good friend, maybe I'd see a job in the Hollywood Reporter, a job ad or something. So I'd forward it. Hey, saw this job ad, here's the info, cinemarism, if you want, you know? - It would. - It'd be helpful. - Was anybody altruistic with it? Or was this just, I mean, I'm sorry, was this just pure altruism? Or was this in the hopes that, hey, you remember who hooked you up? 'Cause like, I'm still a composer. I'm still looking to do that. Hey, you know, has any of this come back to you? - I mean, for the most part, I mean, I've always just kind of done that, connected people up and let people know about stuff. And it's all came from pretty much altruistic. Sure, if people remember me and say, hey, you got me my job here's, you know, I'm always happy to say yes, but. - Here's a high five. Enjoy this. - How long has this been going on? - It was probably back around 2000 that I first just started randomly, you know, it'd be once, twice, three times a week, maybe, whenever I heard about something, I'd send out an email to whoever I knew. - And the list just grew. - And it just grew organically from that. And then before I knew it, information actually started coming to me. It'd be like, hey, Jeff, you got me my job. We're hiring. I know you have like a list of people. Why don't you send us to your list? I'm like, hey. - How big is the list now? - Is that proprietary information? - I'll tell you for, no. - High five? - I'll tell you for high five. - Yeah. - No, it's, we're over like 58,000. - So 58,000 people are subscribing. Is this, do you think that, I mean, Hollywood jobs are hard to come by, right? And it's, they're pretty selective. There's a ton of people applying for them. Is it, is there, can anybody join this list? Or do you have to actually like have some chops to join the list? Just in the hopes of not completely flooding these people's inboxes who are giving you guys opportunities to look for jobs. - I mean, when it first started, there was definitely kind of a barrier to entry, which is basically, I have to think you're a cool person. - Oh. - Oh. - What? - Now there's only a barrier entry to the party. - It's like a member of the skulls here. (laughing) - Alumni. - And as it started growing, growing, growing. Finally, I was getting like so many emails and requests for people to get on my list that I couldn't keep up with it anymore. - Right, you're like, oh, okay, let's just everyone's in. - And well, so then I had to launch a website kind of, and the idea behind the website was that it was going to automate kind of some of these processes where we could just like sign up. - And make sure there's not a ton of bots going out as well. Right? Because that's a problem too. Maybe some bots start hopping on this thing and you don't want anything to get hacked. - Right now. - Yes. - So far, I've been lucky. - Right. So what kind of jobs can I find on this thing? 'Cause, you know, I mean, they moved us to ZHollywood and I think they're just-- - I know, we have Hollywood in our name. We should, you know-- - I'm pretty sure we're pretty much-- - Pretty impressive. - I think we're qualified for anything at this point. - I think we're qualified for anything. - Well, what's the story? I mean, you're putting some people in some pretty good gigs? - Put people in some awesome gigs. - Yeah. - We've done everything from, I mean, jobs have been everything from like, you know, PA jobs, whatever. - Sure. - All the way up to we posted for CFO of Arklight Pictures. - Whoa. - What the hell? - Whoa. - Wow. - It's been quite a range. I mean, we do casting for everything from small indie films to like a lot of big TV shows, cast through even game shows. - Wow. - Someone on a game show who won like $800,000. - Yeah, how much of that kick did you get back? - Yeah, we're going to have to find that first. - Yeah, you know what, that's fucked up, you know what? That person would not have won $800,000 without Mr. Jeffrey Gund. - I got to thank you. - I did get a-- - You did get a thank you? - I did get a thank you and 10% please. - In what denomination did you get your thank you? 'Cause dude, $800,000 is another to sneeze at. And-- - No, I mean, she was a writer, so it allowed her to buy a house and pursue full time. Her days are a writer. - And now you live in her basement, rent free, holy. - Yeah, it's your house, brother. The house is Jeffrey Gund built. - Wow. - Okay, so-- - Some of these stories like that, too. I've got people on, you know, all kinds of like reality shows. - Okay. - So I'm gonna help you launch a business. - Sure. - You know, we do your house. And actually, when I first started, I didn't want to do any of the reality casting. I wanted to just be, you know, the quote unquote, the real casting characters. - Right, you didn't want to be that trash TV cast. - But I think reality is blown up so much that you can't help it in having a choice. - Some of it feels legitimate. Like, I, you know, Laura sometimes watches those home and garden shows where you make the houses and stuff like that. - Like the mini houses? - No, like the brothers who are-- - Oh, yeah, the-- - The pair dudes, the flippers and stuff? - Yeah, yeah, right, right. - Brothers who have flippers. So, and I watch some of that stuff. Sometimes I'm like, I just want to see what it looks like at the end. - And I do, and I actually, I try and concentrate on the more positive theme shows. - Right. - To help you launch a business or redo your house or do something cool, you know, as opposed to like, let's put, you know, five people in a house and that's how an act is much like-- - Wow, you know, shot at MTP right there. - Well, Jeff, is it only exclusive to Los Angeles or is it, could people in New York who are listening to this maybe join up? Like, I don't know, I really don't know much about it. - Actors will move. - Actors will go wherever the job is. - Well, not just casting, but a lot of the opportunities are people who it's open to. Is this a nationwide, a nationwide thing? A worldwide thing, 'cause we're gonna be in Cuba soon. - Station wide and specifically also open to Cuba. - Okay. - Yeah, just recently. - Yeah, we sell like plantains and hanging out with the font the girls. I don't know, that's not Cuba. - No, that's not Cuba. - That's not Cuba. - I've been rolling cigars. - But no, it is, it's nationwide. - Okay. - So, I mean, some of the things are very specific to LA, but there are other, like, especially the reality shows. - Right. - They're frequently cast nationwide. A lot of the commercials I cast are nationwide too. - And where can people find nationwide? Like, the nationwide is on your side. (laughing) - That's right. - Jeff, go ahead and go on your side. Now, this is infolist.com, and that's where you can sign up for this thing. - Yep, and it's free. It's free to sign up. - It's free to sign up, so you can have that. And the one thing, the way I learned about info list is you guys do your pre-comicon party, right? Like a year, like a, oh, year. A week or so before Comic Con, before everybody basically leaves Hollywood to just, be insane. - And also a year? - And also a year. - A year and a week before Comic Con. - A year and a week before Comic Con. Well, I'm counting. Jeff throws this party, and it's cool. I mean, I took a picture with a dude in a predator suit last year. - That's awesome. - And had a lot of fun, and there are a couple movers and shakers hanging out. I, and then just the layman's, like me. - You. - Like me. - Yeah, I'm like, - Hey, is this a name mean anything? - I don't know. - I'm going to be on Z Hollywood. - Hey. - And we're here in a week from today. - We're gonna be on Z Hollywood. - And they're like, yeah. - The Comic Con party has, yeah, really blown up. - It's been crazy. - It was something that was supposed to, originally just kind of a fun, cool networking thing. - Mm-hmm. - And now it's blown up to, I mean, Yuka and Stan's company got involved, and that of course didn't hurt at all. - It's been fun. - But it's now, I mean, we had like, I think close to 1500 people showed up last year. - Yeah. - And we have, I mean, literally, if they dropped a bomb on this, like, you know, the comic book industry would cease to exist. I mean, 'cause we have like writers, producers, and directors of like every major comic book movie you can think of right there. We had, you know, the writer of X-Men. We even have video game people. We had the creator of Call of Duty, video game franchise. - The guy from Geekscape was there, and he was like, "Hey, excuse me. "Do you have five seconds?" - He's noted really, really weird. - You know what, I was the guy in the corner. I was like the creepy guy who's just like staring at everybody. 'Cause nobody wanted to talk to me. - No, but everyone's nerds there. Everyone there is like a big nerd. We all gravitate to the corner. It's the middle of the room that's empty at those parties. - Yeah, yeah. There was a bit of a delineation to them. - All wall flowers. - Yeah, you know what? This was not a high school dance. This was a happening, shaking thing. And I want to get invited again. Here's the thing about the Infillist parties. - I think I can arrange that. - Every now and then I see my friends at Infillist parties on Instagram, and I'm like, "That's not the pre-comicon. "There was another party, and I didn't get invited." (laughing) Dude, nobody wants me at a party. I'm not, I don't drink. I'm not single. I just hang out, and all I want to talk about is how the 92 X-Men are completely overrated. - Yeah, but if you get people drunk enough, that's what they'll want to talk about. - Maybe at this party. - Yeah, so you just need to be with someone that's that drunk, and then everyone will love you. - We do have booze at the parties, I'm told. - Well, you may have to drink it. - You may have to be drunk to talk to me. - I'm the other guy, I can get you on the list. - Oh yeah, well, Jeff, we appreciate it. You know what, as geeks, we need all the help we can get. We're gonna take a quick break here. We're gonna come back on T-R-A-D-O-V, and on Geekscape, we'll be right back. Geekscapes, don't pause, I see, don't do it. Don't do it, we'll be right back. (upbeat music) Hey Geekscapes, we're back, and I love the energy. It's like the countdown gets me pumped. It's like fist pumping in there. It's fucking awesome. - I've got a secret for all of you guys. I may be putting their stuff on blast, but here's the thing. Whenever we show up here at T-R-A-D-O-V, soon to be Z Hollywood, to do the show, our engineers are like, "Yes, Jonathan's here. I was having a bad day." And now I know that that clown is gonna make me laugh for the next hour, even if it is at his own expense. And you know what, it's fine. You guys can make fun. As long as you guys are entertained. And I wanna let you guys know that tomorrow night, if you guys like Geekscape, you guys can watch the stream. It's kinda like a sister thing over there. It's like, this is T-R-A-V-C-Z Hollywood. Sometimes I go over there to the stream, and I do a show like we did Geekscape 400. And tomorrow night, I'm doing Kamikaze all year long. We've got some cool guests. I'm hosting that with my friend Keith Traulens over at Kamikaze, and it's live streaming, just like it was a month ago with the Power Rangers. And there's a live studio audience. If you're in LA, you can come on by and watch it. It's at eight o'clock. And the Infillist is one of the sources of our in-studio audience. You solicit the in-studio audience on the Infillist, don't you? - Yeah, yeah, I do a promotion for them, and gather people to bring people from far and wide. - Oh, that's cool. - The enjoy. - The Power Rangers thing was awesome. - Oh, that was, yeah, that was a lot of fun. They just kind of threw me to the wolves because I'd never hosted Kamikaze all year long, but I think I did all right. - And I think you know a thing or two about it, where I think you may be all right about it. Like doing that type of gig. - You know something, don't you do a podcast or something? - Yeah, if it appeals to-- - It's a podcast about it. - If it appeals to socially awkward males between the ages of 15 and 35, I think I can appeal to them. - Yeah, that's my beat as they would see in the police force, which I would never make. - Okay, well, you definitely got your beat off very well on that show. - If you need a beat to walk, I'll beat it off for you. But tomorrow night, Geekscape, we're doing our thing on Kamikaze all year long, so watch for that. We'll post on the website when it's up, and it's awesome that Jeff is getting that studio audience. Jeff, last time I was at the party, when I was at the, I hung out with my friend, Tiffany Smith, who co-hosts DC All Access, do you know Tiffany? She's one of the co-hosts of DC All Access. She does all the DC Warner Bros hosting. In yesterday, as you guys, she was at your party-- - The Smith Lord on Twitter. - It was the Smith Lord on Twitter. We should get her in here. It was really the first time I actually talked to Tiffany, like we have a lot of friends, mutual friends, and they introduced us at the party last year. And yesterday, the good folks at Skype, I'm still a Skype ambassador. The folks at Skype had me on Skype, talking to the folks from Batman versus Superman, Donna Justice, as they walked into the premiere in New York at Radio City Music Hall. Tiffany was on the red carpet, and she was interviewing people and saying, "Hey, we've got Jonathan on Skype, asking you questions. I got to ask Ben Affleck a question. I got to ask all sorts of people a question. Diane Lane." Really, if you guys, I'll post it on the website here pretty soon, but it's not up yet. It was live streamed yesterday, but pretty soon, I think Warner Bros will put it up, definitely, before the premiere of the movie. It'll probably be up tomorrow, but the video is myself, Tiffany Smith, the cast of Gotham showed up. It's all the red carpet people from Batman versus Superman. I mean, you can't get bigger than Ben Affleck in Hollywood. In Zack Snyder, I asked him a question about directing all these cool characters, and that's all up there. So I think you will have fun. It'll be up, and I'd have to give a shout out, because you guys have to look at it. - To ask Batman a fucking question. - Yeah, if he needed a sidekick. - I mean, he did not, no, he did not. - And then, no, he probably said yes, then you turned him down, 'cause you're like, "I have a Marvel guy, bye." - Our good friend, Trisha Helper, Trisha was on there. - Yeah. - It was fun. - Fucking, Belle Stark alive. - No, not Trisha Helper. - I was gonna say, I'm blanking Trisha Hirschberger. - Okay, I was gonna say Trisha Helper. I was like, "What?" - Trisha Hirschberger was on it. - That's just move. - Who is way better for me. Like, Trisha has been on Geekscape. Remember she's a sweetheart? - Yes. - Trisha's like a gamer, she's awesome. I would rather have her than Trisha Helper any day. - You know what? - What? - I agree to go straight, but you're an asshole. - You know what, I'd rather have you, Jonathan. That's my answer. - You know what? One of those two women went to the Geekscape picnic. - Really? - It was Trisha. - Her for this. All right, so look for the Batman versus Superman red carpet thing tomorrow. Let's talk about this Kickstarter thing, Jeff, that you did the info list, just had a successful Kickstarter campaign. You guys raised $40,000. And you guys had all sorts of geek incentives like meeting Stanley and doing round table discussions with producers. What was the impetus for doing a Kickstarter campaign? 'Cause you guys have been around for 16 years. Why do a Kickstarter campaign now? - Well, info list has been kind of growing like crazy. - Yeah. - And keeps growing and keeps growing. And we're at the point now, we're kind of bursting at the seams. The website, you know, I mentioned that was done for me, was like 10 years ago, and it was even pretty much old technology, even at that time. - Yeah, it was a geo-cities account. (laughing) - It works great on my Netscape Navigator. - You guys can find it at myspace.com/fennster. - But friendsster.com/infillist on Prodigy Online. - And so, do you dial into the BBS? - Exactly, yeah. So you guys are gonna do a new Bells and Whistle website. - So yeah, we are way, way, way overdue to catch up with technology. - Sure. - So we're gonna be adding everything in social networking functionality. It was gonna be kind of targeted social networking. So you'll be able to kind of connect with not just anybody, but like the right people to help you do what you're doing. - That's awesome. - We're gonna have something I call collaborative networking, which is gonna be an engine design to kind of bring people together. - Do you need them to get closer to the mic? - Yeah, they're adding volume, and it's getting a little fuzzier, but they literally like, put your mouth up against it like this. - Yeah, just don't tell them. - I don't know. - Don't know. - You're sorry. - Don't worry, Andy Dick used that mic earlier. There's nothing wrong with it. (laughing) - So you'll be able to connect actors with directors, with screenwriters, or some people who are on the other side of the entertainment industry who maybe are at the agencies or production companies, and maybe they're looking for assistance. - It's gonna be an engine to put people together. So if you're a author and you need an illustrator, a filmmaker and you need a crew, or a photographer and you need a makeup artist that's gonna be connecting you up with the people you need to get your projects done, to find work, to make your own work, to get your, create your stuff, and it'll be an engine designed to do specifically that. - That might be a pretty awesome tool. - Right. - Is it true that you guys are gonna go with the Tagline Infillist Better Than Tinder? - Yeah. - Is that true? Like you guys are gonna be hooking more people? Is that true? - We swipe left on Tinder. - Yeah, Infillist, hooking people up at a better than Tinder, better than Grindr. Wait, what did you guys gonna go like? - Grindr? - Wait. - Grindr? - How about Twinder? - You guys are gonna hook people up faster than Tinder. That's what we should name it, Infillist. - With less STDs. - Pretty much getting rid of all the technology and just gonna do a swipe. (laughing) - You just swipe right and left with this job. - I want that job. No, not that job. - It's like speed dating. It's like speed interviews. Hi, my name's Jonathan. Nope, not bad. (laughing) - Hey guys, what's out there? - No, I'm done. - I like the right screen, please. - Oh, you're out of here. Wow. - And when can we expect that? Like it was a successful campaign. The money's gonna go into this website. What kind of incentives did you guys offer? - We had some really amazing people came forward and offered their time and their services to the campaign. We had one of the guys who was at the Comic-Con party. It was Dave Anthony, who's the creator of the Call of Duty game franchise. - Holy shit. - Like, you know, a little known video game franchise. It's like the largest on the planet. - Yeah, maybe something'll come. - Damn it. - Yeah. - We had David Hader, who was a screenwriter of X-Men. - Whoa, X-Men, yeah. - Giving a one-on-one lunch meeting with someone. - And an actor from Metal Gear. - That's right, voice actor. - Voice actor. - That's cool, I never do that. - He's a king of voice over. - Yeah, I asked him to do my ringtone on my phone. He punched me in the face. - And was it the sound of your nose breaking? That was the ringtone? - That's good enough. I got it. I got it. Ow. - Solid snake, just punched me in the face. - So we had Jim Herzfeld, who's screenwriter for Meet the Parents and Meet the Makers. So we kind of had all kind of genres. - Yeah. - The geeky stuff. We had some of the regular mainstream stuff. It's a mutant from Geekscape, walking around, trying to talk to Josh Holloway. That's cool. And now, are you guys gonna be adding some more events? Is it gonna be like a launch party for the website? Obviously, I'm angling towards an invite. But this whole thing, like, what's the timeframe on this new website? And if you're already signed up for the Infillist, do you have to re-sign up for it? Or do all those previous members get it re-integrated? - All the previous members will get re-integrated. And there's always gonna be a free level of membership. So, 'cause I wanna maintain that. 'Cause I know actors are not always, you know, well, though. - It's a tough living. - It's a tough living. - They are sometimes broke, you know. - Sure. - But except we love the ones who aren't. - Yes. - And we love the ones even who aren't. - So you're anticipating maybe a tiered system at one point at some point? - So yeah, we're gonna have a tiered system. So I wanna keep the free for, you know, the basic information. - Sure. - But we're gonna have some premium features and some premium ways that help people even more. And those will be, 'cause eventually, I have to make at least a little bit of money. - Right, right. And what kind of stuff, I mean, if you could say, like what kind of stuff would be available to me if like I paid a subscription? Are those rates available now? Or like, I mean, not that the features are available, but do you know what the tiered system's gonna look like and price-wise and what the features are? - We're still figuring out exactly, but I mean, you're probably, you know, to get some of the premium discounts. - Right. - It's like whenever we promote seminars and workshops. - Sure. - One of the requirements is I always require a discount from my group and so, you may. But I always, all my business has always been win-win. - Sure. - So, which is why, 'cause I used to do win-foolies just totally, totally for free. - Right. - Which worked until it took up so much time that it was getting out of my opinion. - Now you're, now's your job. Now you can't have a job. - Now's my job. It's info-less, right? - And I still keep it free for the actors and people who receive the information. - Sure. - But I do charge the people who send out the information. - Got it. - But I made my business model such that I knew whatever I'm charging them. - Right. - But I'm gonna be setting them more than that in business. So, they win 'cause they get more money. I win 'cause I get paid for what I used to do for free and the people on my list win 'cause I would always require the discount. - Right. - It was win-win and that's why it kept spiraling upward. - And if, like, the tiered system, if you maybe add, like, you know, if you pay, I don't know how much it is, but you get access to more of a discount or maybe you get access to, I mean, well, first off, how much do I have to pay for Stan Lee's home address in cell phone number? Like, that's really what I'm talking about here. (laughing) - I just, why, how much do I pay for Stan Lee's Tinder? - If you pay enough, he'll just give you blood samples of some of these people or photographs that you can use as blackmail to get a better career in Hollywood. I mean, that's what, I mean, you know what? You don't have to take my ideas, Jeff. You don't even have to take my money, but I'm suggesting it as-- - But I think in the next 10%, the next Kickstarter we do. - Next Kickstarter, I say we put in a tier that for $1,000 a month, so a kid pays $1,000 a month. That's $1,000 a year, you know. You can actually get to tuck some of these celebrities in to bed, maybe, you know. - What do you think? - When you said you get to tuck some of these celebrities, I was like, really? We're going to Taylor Jenner? - Well, no, I mean, okay, let's just cut to this shit. How much for David Spade's cell phone number? (laughing) That's the guy. I mean, come on. No, he's probably gonna come in at T-R-E-D-O-V anyway, sooner or later, be on Z-H-E-H-L-A-R-Y, but listen guys, it's getting away from me, the information that you need to know is, you go to the website, you sign up for their listserv, it's infolist.com, right? - Yeah. - Infolist.com, and you're gonna see some changes coming up, thanks to you guys donating to the Kickstarter. There are still incentives available though, if you go to infolist.com, some of the incentives that weren't claimed, even though it's successful, some of the incentives that weren't claimed, are still available up on the website, some cool stuff, we're gonna take another spot break here on T-R-E-D-O-V, our last spot break at T-R-E-D-O-V, and we'll be right back, and we're gonna talk about those incentives, as well as the big news of Daredevil Season 2. - Does that come out? - Maybe. - Weird. - We'll be right back! [MUSIC PLAYING] - All right, Geekskapus. - You know what? I'm really gonna miss this place. - Are you? - I know. - I'm really good, I'm really good. - I'm really good at this. - And I just got here. - Yeah, Jeff just got here. - We're gonna have to pack all the shit. - I'm not packing anything, we're burning it down. - Yeah, I'm not packing anything either. - We're burning this place to the ground. - We're burning T-R-E-D-O-V down, and then we're gonna show up to the ashes in Doozy Hall. - That's a good idea. - Yeah, maybe. - You know what, maybe we'll just leave this place. So, Jeff, what are some of the incentives that are still up on the website right now? - Like, if you go to infolist.com/donate, little D, donate, what can people find? Like, what's some of the stuff up there? - Well, there's some of the basic stuff. - Into the mic, please. - Into the mic, please, sure, please. - There's some of the basic stuff, like you get discounts on membership to the new, newly released infolist.com when it comes out, you'll be able to get, we've still got a round table meeting with Yuka from Stan Lee's pal Entertainment, Neil Fisher, who's a representative of Davis Films, and they do, like, done a bunch of big horror films. - Yeah, they did the underworld series. - Oh, cool. - Like, Neil's a producer on that. And Neil, it's also, like, I think a producer on, like, The Last Unicorn, like, Neil's-- - What? - We gotta get Neil in here, 'cause he does so many of these. - He's an awesome teacher. - Nerd things. - That's awesome. - Like this-- do you remember-- okay, so there's a card game or a table-time game called The Seven Seas, like, a pirate game, and they threw a Kickstarter? - Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. - Over a million freaking dollars. Neil's a part of that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - 1.3 million. - 1.3 million dollars. - Like, I saw that, and I was like-- - You know what? You know how they did it? You know how they did it? Jeff Gunn, you know what his kickback was? Nothing. - Wow. - So, thank you. - You just, like, that $800,000. Hey, maybe all of that $40,000 that they raised was that person, all right? - Maybe that was my thank you. - Yeah, maybe that was the thing. - Maybe that was the thing. - Maybe that was the thing. - Yeah, let's go with that. - That was my heart. - Let's go. - I'm kidding. That is cool. The Seven Seas kick started to hit 1.3 billion. I never even heard of this game. - Yeah, me either. - And all of a sudden, I'm like, "Whoa, hello. Hello, legs." That's a bad thing. Tim Burton is a fat man. So, there are a couple of meetings you can get. What else? Maybe a T-shirt? - You can get T-shirts. Also in the round table is Dan Ferris from CAA. - Whoa. - So, while you people look into, you know-- - I need representation. - Get amazing information from these head of business development. They're not head of, but it's an executive business development. - Get out of here, kid. - Get out of here, kid. - Throw us your script in the trash. - Whoa. - You have it. You paid to get to that meeting or at our round table. - Yeah. - Yes, absolutely. - And then-- - And then he'll throw in the trash. - Just like he did at the party. Whoa. - That's my lot in life. So, that's it. Infillist.com/donate. - Would you guys know Mark's Decree? - I know. Mark very well. - I would-- Mark's been on GeekScape. I consider Mark a bit of a mentor to me. He's a great guy. - Yeah, he's on the round table too. - I love Mark. I love Mark. - He holds so many people. - He holds Space Command thing. Like Mark is a saint. And every now and then we'll go to lunch. And I'll be like, Mark, what's my next move? This isn't that. And he'll tell me some amazing advice. I'll be too dumb to follow it. My career will sputter. And I will eat out of a trash can. And then I'll ask him to lunch again. I know. Mark is one of my biggest supporters and proponents. He's opened many doors for me. I love Mark. And I think he's worth the price of admission alone. - Oh, wow. - No, Mark's great. - And now you might be interested in this. Because you can also own the things you can get are VIP wristbands for infamous parties. - Whoa! No! Wait, what is that tear? How much is that tear? - I need to get it in my Christmas month. - Whatever the tear is, I think it's another couple hundred bucks for me. - No, whatever tear it is. There's one more coming out of your eyes after that. Oh, for everyone else, we're for you, Jonathan. Because it's a bit of a tiered system here on this VIP wristband. - It's no longer a tiered system under Jonathan's feet. - Hey, Jonathan. I didn't think that VIP wristband would fit around your neck, but you successfully hung yourself in. You know what, guys? That's it. Infilliz.com/donate. We know that Batman v Superman is coming out this Thursday. I'm going with Ian Kerner at 6 p.m. on Thursday. That's the first screening we are going at the Chinese theater here in Hollywood, which is a legendary theater. It's got probably the best laser projection inside in California. - Really? - Yeah, dude. I saw Mad Max and Star Wars there, and it was incredible. - Wow. - So we definitely got tickets for Batman v Superman. I can't wait. But that's not the big news this weekend. It's not even the fact that I talked to Ben Affleck. It's that Daredevil Season 2 came out. - Right. - And is, I think, better than Season 1, which I said was the best thing that Marvel has done. - Has ever done. - And Daredevil Season 2, I think, beats it. - John Bernthal's Punisher is phenomenal. - I will tell you. I'm not going to spoil all the seeds that I planted in your head about. Is John Bernthal going to suck? Is the Punisher? - I agree with. - No, he's really good. - You were eating crow, weren't you, brother? - Yeah, no, but I knew that. - John Bernthal's awesome. - He was amazing. - And Geese Davis, we're not going to spoil anything about Daredevil Season 2 here on the show. Ian has promised... - Daredevil dies, twice. - Ian has promised that he's going to make the time to do a Daredevil Season 2 special with me. And we're going to record that special and put it up on this very feed. So if you guys want all the spoil, once you're done with all 13 episodes, it'll be safe to watch. You'll get my opinion. You'll get his opinion. You'll get his super encyclopedic nerd analysis of all the episodes, but... - Twice. - Twice. - But we're not going to spoil it here. I just got to give you my impressions, though, that it's still awesome. Everything that came in Daredevil Season 1, including some parts of what came in Jessica Jones, totally matters. The Marvel Cinematic Universe has advanced to this point. It's flush with the story. You get everything that you wanted in Daredevil Season 1 and more. The Punisher and Electra stuff is phenomenal. Those are two characters that are constantly conflicted between the ideas of maybe being painted as heroes, maybe they're villains. In this season, they do such a phenomenal job of making them a mix of both. But not as like, "Oh, is he good guy? Is he a bad guy?" And it's just vague storytelling. This is not vague storytelling. The stakes have been very clearly defined. Their goals are very clearly defined. The performances in both those characters are really awesome. They're just not amorphous characters. It's somewhere in the gray area. They're clearly done characters performed very well, and you get it. You get why they're in between Good and Evil. - One thing that also makes them like, between Good and Evil is also of like Daredevil's perspective of them. His perspective is almost changing as well. - He tried to define his code somewhere in Season 1. He was either successful or not, and things happen in Season 2 that make him re-reapproach that code or whether or not it was right or not. What I love about these Netflix series is you have room to really introduce these characters and make them a bit realistic, but also give them three dimensions. You may not get in two hours. There is a scene in Season 3 which is taken right out of the Garth Ennis run on Punisher. It's a scene between him and Daredevil talking about their two conflicting ideologies and why one works and one doesn't. It's taken from the page. There's a rooftop scene, and it's just awesome. Later on, I think in episode 10 or 11, Kenny hasn't seen it. - We're really going to get into it with this podcast with Ian. There's a scene that's taken from a Punisher run done by Jason Aaron. Jason Aaron also in this Punisher run did the original Wilson Fisk issue that you saw as episode 8 of Season 1, which I think was the best episode, but you see Wilson Fisk as a kid. He does this conversation later on. It comes right from his Punisher run. He does it later on in Season 2. It's just amazing writing. It's amazing character work. It talks about us as a society, especially now with this whole gun issue going on. It's really in the forefront of our politics, of our conversations online, our conversations with each other. This is really damn good storytelling. I'm a huge fan of Daredevil Season 2, and I really want to watch a ton of it. I've probably watched the whole thing again. - Yeah, I am. - What's another three days? - No, it's only 12 hours. You can do it. - It's 13. - Yeah. - Exactly. - You can do it. - We managed to do it, even though I was on set all day on Saturday. - Wow. - I gave the Batman vs. Superman thing on Sunday. - Yeah, I'm eight and a half episodes in and I started at 3am. - What's a couple toothpicks for your eyelids to keep your eyes open? - Just toothpicks and toothpicks. - I did so much blow to keep myself awake. Just kidding. Just kidding. I saved the drugs for the Infilis parties. - I'm kidding. - I'm kidding, Jeff. I'm kidding. - You made me an addict. - No, I'm kidding. - That's why he's straight-headed. - Honestly, guys. - Those only come with the VIP bracelet. - No! - What tear is coke? - What tear is heroin? - What tear is heroin? - Yeah. - I need that coke coke. No, Jeff. - I'm kidding. - If you're not watching Daredevil Season 2, we're not going to spoil it here for you guys, but did you watch any of the Season 1 or anything? - I love Season 1. I watched that in the weekend. - Yeah. - And Season 2 is like cop on my list. - Now that Kickstarter's over. - Yeah. - Season 2 has been watched anything for the last month. - Yeah. - But now that we've finished a couple of days ago. - Now you're never going to leave your house. And next time you leave, you're going to be 400 pounds. You're like, "I watched all of Daredevil 14 times." - I watched all of Daredevil. Then I went back and I watched a bunch of stuff. I also watched a bunch of Malcolm in the middle. - Malcolm in the middle. - I watched a-- - And then I was like, "I have to watch Breaking Bad." - I was like, "This is great. I loved it." - Fuller house. - Yeah, God. - Shotgunged it. - I will say the worst part of Daredevil Season 2. I actually think Daredevil Season 2 is way worse than Season 1 because Daredevil's in his costume the entire season 2. - Oh, yeah. - And it's so fucking bad. - Hey, hey, hey, hey. - Relax, relax. - Just put him back with a cross over space. - No, you do that at Comic Con. Dude, Electra's at Comic Con is going to be ridiculous. - Yeah. - She basically puts a bad bit of mask on. And it's like, "Hey, she's wearing jeans." - Yeah. - There's going to be Electra's all over Comic Con. Not that I complain. I'd love to see some more Ellen pages. Or not Ellen Page. What's her name? - Karen Page. - Oh, yeah. - I like Ellen Page too. - Yeah, Ellen Page logo. - I like her. - I like Juno. - Ellen Pompeo. - But Karen Page was awesome. We're really getting to Daredevil on this special, guys. But this is GeekScape. And it's our final T-Radio V show. And we got to share here with Jefka. - I'm honored to be on the final one. - Yeah, and I'm honored. - This is just a good thing we're about to be. - It's great. - It's great. You guys, next week we're coming back. - I'll have the one who put you out. - We're coming back at the exact same time, 7pm next week. Pacific Standard Time here on GeekScape Live. We're gonna have a lot of fun, but we'll be on ZHollywood. You guys won't notice a change, except I'll just be saying ZHollywood. - Will there be different back drop low posters next week? Probably not. - I don't know, man. - Wow, we're gonna take the posters with us, even to new ZHollywood. - I have no idea. - I have no idea. - I was gonna sort of like gulp blood all the walls. - Sacrifice, sacrifice, sacrifice. - I'm kidding. GeekScape is, that's GeekScape. Go to infillist.com, sign up for an account, because it may be the only getting invited to a party. Check out those tiers, keep this feed open, share it with your friends, tell people about GeekScape. As I said, if you see a celebrity or somebody you want on GeekScape, do a little online stocking, tell them to come on the show. If you see them in the convention, now the convention season's starting up, tell them to come on the show, and we'll be here. Why shouldn't they? For Kenny Craig, I'm Jonathan London. For Jeff Gunnar, I'm Jonathan London. This is GeekScape on T-Radov and next week we'll be on ZHollywood, but it'll be the exact same, because that's why it's been for nine years. We love you guys. Check us out on geesecape.net on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, all that stuff. We'll see you guys next week. Peace! Woo! [MUSIC]
Jeff Gund has been running Hollywood's popular Infolist for almost two decades! An information source for entertainment gigs, parties and networking events, the Infolist has helped many Hollywood professionals get their start. Now Jeff is on Geekscape to talk about the big changes ahead, including the successful results of the recent Infolist Kickstarter campaign! We also take a moment to talk about some upcoming changes in the Geekscape world, Jonathan Skype's into the 'Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice' premiere and we all marvel in awe at 'Daredevil' Season 2!
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