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Geekscape 41: His Name Was Sanchez

Guest Co-host: Mark Bell from Film Threat! - Review: "Resident Evil: Extinction"! News: The Southland Tales trailer! Paul Dini is writing Gatchaman! Jonathan interviews The Film Crew's Kevin Murphy and Bill Corbett! Comics: Thor #3 is actually good! Gerard Way's "The Umbrella Academy"! Video Games: Rock Band! And Mark enters a Guitar Hero tournament... and discovers SANCHEZ! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 25 Sep 2007
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"My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big row ass man. Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laughing at me to this day." Not everyone gets B2B. But with LinkedIn, you'll be able to reach people who do. Get a $100 credit on your next ad campaign. Go to linkedin.com/results to claim your credit. That's linkedin.com/results. Terms and conditions apply. Linked in. The place to be. To be. You got to start the story there. Or if you want to see Brad Pitt and George Clooney. Go to Apple TV Plus, and if you want to see their new movie wall, you can't do it. I can do it. So do it. Definitely go to Apple TV Plus. The minute is cool. Okay, fine, it's very cool. Wall Street, September 27th on Apple TV Plus. Way to go. Handy Snyder for Twisted Sister and Strange Land. And you are watching Geekscape. Yeah. [Music] [Music] Hi. Welcome to episode 41 of Geekscape. I'm here with my good buddy Mark Bell from Film Threat over the next hour or so. We're going to be bringing you the latest news and reviews in the world of movies, video games, and comics. So we've had a pretty active week. We're going to bring you everything you need to know, right? Yeah, of course. And more. More than you would even remotely want to know. So, so lean in. Engage yourself with my audience. Well, I didn't want my pet monster to fall over us. I think I was holding him up there with my shoulder. We're here in Casa, done. That's Ben's little spunk catcher. And here we are. But pillow. It's his butt pillow. And why don't you talk a little bit about what you do over Film Threat? Oh, well Film Threat, I'm the editor in chief, which basically just means that anything, any content you see up on Film Threat, I made the decision to put that there. So if you see a story you don't like or review, you know, I may not have written everything, but I definitely am responsible for putting it there. I got something though. You got something? What do you got? You guys made a list after Owen Wilson killed him. Oh, the top 10 cinematic suicide. That was me. That was me. Don't you miss? What do we miss? Groundhog Day. Okay. Okay. Here's the thing with Groundhog Day, right? That's not a final. That entire, well, it all, some of them weren't finals, but there's many, many suicides that we didn't get. But the thing was with Groundhog, the entire movie, I don't know, it didn't, it was my top 10. And yeah, and I love Groundhog Day, and I would put that in a top 15, but it wasn't my top 10. What were you talking about? It's a little early on the show for you to be talking this much. I'm really sorry. I apologize. There's no reason this shouldn't be brought up later. It's okay. Like once the new listeners have adjusted to the fact that this show derails every time you open your fucking ugly mouth. That's true. My mouth is beautiful. Guys, over here, left of screen is our good friend Brian Gilmore. He is a cancer on the wonderful society that is Geekscape. You are the one thing keeping us, to not continue, let's talk about what he does at film threat, and how long have you guys been around, how long have you been done? Film has been around for over 22 years now. 22? 22 years. Yeah, because it was started in '85. It was kind of a college fancy, and Chris Gore started it up in Detroit. And then around the early 90s, Larry Flint bought it and made it into like a full-fledged kind of glossy magazine that was coming out all the time. And film threat really covered, you know, the first independent film wave, I guess you could say of like the Tarantino's 91, 1993. You know, I guess we would include Ed Burns, but you know, like the Kevin Smith, that whole thing. And then around '95, '96 film threat was no longer with Larry Flint and started the website. And then the website has kind of is what still exists. The magazine ended, I think it was '96. No, no, no, brassics. Well, there was tons of brass, but I mean, the problem with the magazine, and particularly the film industry which kind of started to turn around '97, because when you were out of '97 '98, I guess, well, when was Blair Witch? Would you say that was like '99? No, what was '99? I guess '99. Okay, so Blair Witch was '99. But that was like, at least when I consider like the independent film world really started speeding up to the point where people were just grabbing their cameras and filming whatever. So a magazine, particularly an independent film magazine, I don't know how they would be able to keep up on a monthly basis with everything that happens. So like the website being able to be updated twice, three times whenever we feel like a day, you know, every day we change it. So it's like, I mean, that, the website format is much better, particularly in the landscape of the way filmed. And how long have you been doing this? I've been with FilmThreat for four years. Cool. Well, and the best move you've seen your entire time at FilmThreat? Like, something that maybe our audience hasn't heard of, but you're like-- Well, you know, I mean, I think your audience is pretty film-savvy, so probably. I mean-- We have a lot of video game players who maybe aren't all into film. We have some comic people who aren't totally into film. For the most part, you're right. Yeah, I mean, like a film that I love that I saw with FilmThreat, but I mean, it was around before I saw where FilmThreat was like Wild Zero, which is like the zombie, you know, Japan punk movie, which I'm sure they've seen. Guitar Wolf in it? Guitar Wolf, yeah. Which is, that's just amazingly like off the rails, just nuts, you know, and I'm trying to-- I actually haven't seen it, but I remember-- You really haven't seen it? No, when I lived in Philly, it was playing at the Philadelphia Film Festival. Yeah. And I remember Guitar Wolf was in this Japanese zombie movie, and I really wanted to see it, but I just never happened to see it, and now it's one of those things that like if I'm in a movie or something, I just haven't picked it up. It's great. It's nuts. I mean, it's a real zombie end-of-the-world type thing, but then you have that kind of Japanese punk rockability sensibility going, and then you also have this weird androgynous relationship between a guy and possibly a hermaphrodite, and then an alien invasion. And it's like, it's nuts. It's the type of movie that, you know-- It shouldn't work, but it does. Yeah, it shouldn't. It should be so ridiculous that, you know, you're making fun of it more than enjoying it, but it's something that you actually can enjoy. I think that a lot of B-movie horror flicks, they kind of make the mistake of they go the ridiculous, but then it's not enjoyable. You're not laughing with it, you're laughing at it, and I think that something like wild zero is something that you just-- You go with it, as opposed to, you know, just looking at it. We're big fans of Film Threat. We've had Chris on my old show. We'll have Chris back. I've seen him a couple times in the last year. So, it's just a matter of, you know, organizing the show and getting people in here. Glad you're joining us. No, thanks for having me. You guys are good friends of ours. Yes. Best review, Gay By Don, Ever Got, my short film, Ever Got It. I love Gay By Don. Oh, thanks. I don't think I wrote the review, though, but I saw it at the Palm Springs International Film Festival, Short Film Festival. And you like it better than Snow Day, buddy, Snow Day? You don't have the answer. No, I like Snow Day. There was a wonderful actor in that movie. Mr. Benjamin Don. Ben, Ben Don. Yeah. No, like Snow Day, Bloody Snow Day. I saw that at Comic-Con, right, Ben? Is that what I saw it? I'm sure. Yeah. So, it was Comic-Con, and I've seen, obviously, Gay By Don. Do you think if I was to write a Gay By Don feature that Ben Don could play a believable redneck? Possibly. He could definitely play a believable gay guy. Goddamn it. You knew. I mean, come on. I'm gonna have to save you for a second. Yeah, you put that on the T-ball pedestal. I'm gonna have to save you for the sequel. I'm sorry. Don't get mad if we go into production on a GBD feature, and we're not called. But it's funny, have you seen the short film, The Cress of the Creature? Okay, The Cress of the Creature. The Cress of the Creature. It's done, like, kind of '50s black and white style. It's this amazing, just this amazing short film. And the entire thing is, it's a sea monster in this lake. Oh, I guess it's a lake monster. Uh-huh. Who's, it's, you know, it's emo, as it comes up, and it tickles people's feet. And everybody doesn't get freaked out until they think the monster might be gay. Uh-huh. And then all of a sudden, it's like, we must go find and kill the gay monster. It's absolutely hilarious and wonderful. That's really funny. And, you know, obviously you did Gay By Don, so I think it would be right in there of something you'd enjoy. Yeah, definitely. Well, you know, when we talk about the Hollywood horror stuff, then... That'd be cool. Yeah. Um, so speaking of movies that are unintentionally funny, and then to the point where you aren't even laughing, we went to see Resident Evil 3, this Resident Evil Extinction. Uh, this one has Milajova Beachback. She joined by Ali Larder, and this is basically the human race at its last point of extinction. There's barely any humans left. Everybody's a zombie. Yeah, I mean, I don't think... But the Umbrella Corp still has awesome computers. Yeah, the people that lived... Underground? Underground, we're alive. And then these, you know, Road Warrior Mad Max types on the road, you know, going from gas station to gas station and like the worst mileage, you know, gas mileage cars, known to man. Yeah, you know, that makes sense. They couldn't find a Prius. A lot of awesome movie things about this movie. Just to let you know if you get rid of it. Find yourself in the midst of a zombie apocalypse. Wear finger-cut gloves. Yes. They just look badass. And, you know, and a handkerchief or something over your head. Something to cover your mouth from desert stands. Your hair, 'cause your hair's gonna get all messed up. She has these leather thong things, these, these, these scarder belts. Yeah. Like, that's gotta be economic. That's gotta be nice. Well, you can, you can hide. You can put the guns on the inside of the leg that way, 'cause there's an opening right by the, the craft. Yeah, if you haven't, uh, any, if you ever find yourself with no one for miles, that isn't an undead, we're Crossless panties. Yes. We're easy access hoes. Because you have to repopulate the earth, whether they're undead or regulated. So, so this is, this is the third movie. At the end of the, the second one, she started developing these psychic powers. And this one, it's like basically by the end of the movie, the fucking Forza, at least, you know, uh, and the Clone Wars. But anyway, did you do the movie? Oh my God. Did you, did you like the first two? That's two. Yeah. They're not, yeah, yeah, no, exactly. No, I, I, you know, like the first two. I, the first one, I thought was a little incomprehensible. Like the, the editing, the editing in the first movie was so amazingly awful. It was like one minute, they're all here and then the zombies attack and then you'll get like a flash and then they're all in another room. You're like, well, wait, what happened? How did they get out of there? Paul Anderson is very talented director. He isn't, he isn't. You know that, you know that Miller. No, he wrote this one. He wrote Russell. Okay. Yeah. Uh, but he did Highlander. I love that. I love the first one. You want to call me? Yeah. Yeah. I love the first one. You do know that Mila Jovovich can speak now has Paul Anderson seed inside of him. Yes. Inside of her. It's like, I'm telling you guys, uh, it's the, it's the nemesis. That is why I want to be a director. It's the nemesis tyrant that's going to pop out. I don't want to be a director who does like Adam Sandler movies and stuff like this. I want to be a geek director because they get the hottest chicks. I'm telling you right now. Mila Jovitch, you've got, you've got this dude. I wonder. You've got this dude, uh, James Gunn, James Gunn had Jenna Fisher for a while, but then you've got this guy, uh, who just did the, the fourth diehard movie. Right. Uh, he, he's, you know, I had it on the way over here. Yeah. Um, but, but he's a with the, uh, the chick from underworld that he directed. Oh yeah. Kate Begginsell. The key, the key is to put hot women in, uh, dangerous situations. And then as the director, you're saving them. Right. So that's, that's basically what though, but let's, let's, let's take a step back now that we're thinking like obviously Mila Jovitch is pregnant with, uh, Paul W. Sanderson's kid. Um, so let's, let's look at resident evil three as a metaphor for pregnancy. A bear, a barren dead world. Oh, here we go. Children dead everywhere. The only thing that can possibly save is her blood and her blood, her Mila Jovitch and by the end of the movie, I don't know if we're going to spoil anything or if we don't really care on your most folks. Yeah. Like if you don't want to get a lot of heat recently, really spoiler. Okay, spoiler, but basically by the end, you know, she basically births a world of Mila Jovitch's right, you know, in one way or another. So, so this entire thing is basically just his, uh, present to her for being pregnant with his kid. So spoiler, spoiler is over. Yeah, spoiler is over on waving my hands to those of you. Uh, spoiler is over, but um, the movie I felt, I don't even know what to say about this movie because I, all three of these movies are few, I find are very fun to watch once. Yeah. Yeah. And then you never see him again unless you go over to your good buddies who, how Susan a new metal, you know, it is still listened to or static ex albums or when he saw all three of them, when the next one comes out, just turn on like USA or something and you'll get to see the first 18 in the series or whatever, because they're going to do them constantly until the movie actually hits the theater. Right. I've had a refresher course for the last two weeks of these movies and they're, they're these jump scary movies, you know, that, that, yeah, the one, the thing that I thought were the two things that were very annoying in this movie were the editing where you just kind of blur the action sequences by editing them. Yeah, I don't really have to choreograph much. I never understood like we've, we've kind of made an action movies and horror movies. We've kind of made a move into filmmaking where we're going to get really tight close-ups of really frantic action. You just use sound design to tell you what you mean. And you don't know what's going on on screen. Like all you're seeing is shapes and colors moving around and you know, for example, the, the Star Wars prequels, right? The lightsaber battles. It, could you follow what was going on? Like it was just lights. It was flashing lights. Like it, you couldn't really invest in it to the way that you couldn't say something like Luke and Vader at the end of Jedi, where like they're really, you know, every move you're seeing and it's insane. Like everything just becomes spectacle that you can't understand. Or old boy. Yeah. That was great. Now you guys enjoy old boy. I'm not a fan. You guys, it was a rubber hammer. A rubber hammer down a hallway. I, you know, I, I, I, I love old boy. I thought that that movie, I loved basically. I mean, the hammer thing, obviously a lot of people are going in that, but, but just the entire thing on the whole, just the idea of a guy being kidnapped for like 15 years and then just to be messed with. I mean, like that movie is like the, the villain in that movie makes the guy from seven, you know, look like a moron, you know, with absolutely no willpower whatsoever. Cause he, he couldn't even wait a couple years to do his plan, you know. So going back to this movie, the, the second thing that annoyed me was the music cues. Right. Some of them were so they were really overdone in, in these movies, you know, it ruins when these guys are going to jump out. The zombies are going to jump out cause it cuts to silence and always goes immediately to silence. Yeah. And you know, it's going to be a loud noise. And so you're watching this and you're like, Okay, I was playing with a, I was next to Gilmore when we were watching this at the theater. I was playing with Gilmore. I was, I was pretending to be the late reaction guy. Oh yeah. So whenever Gilmore, Gilmore sit next to me, whenever something would jump out or you're supposed to jump, I would let it happen. And then a second later go, which I'm sure was annoying for you after the second one. Yeah, I got a little really like it gets a joke. Oh, that is being your friend. Yeah, it was fun. But I love seeing shitty movies. If I see shit, like because most movies that I probably wouldn't see like Ghost Rider, I mean, I guess I would see, but I wouldn't be for it. Yeah, like this, I go see it with John. Yeah, cause I mean, it's fun. You're not, you're not going, you're not going in. I enjoy this stuff. Yeah. It's just fucking retarded. It's like a gauntlet film. Yeah, this is a, it's not a gauntlet. It's something we've been talking about on the show. The gauntlet is finding movies like Wizard of the Lost Kingdom. Okay. You know, hard rock zombies, which I really have to see. And having a bunch of your friends over. Yeah. Basically anytime a mom and pop shop cleans out their VHSes. Right, right, right. Just go pick up like the 50 cent, you know, dick. Absolutely. And just running a gauntlet, just watching the most unbearable movies in a row. We're having a picnic in November. That's, that's my job. Period. To do like, to do like a year, I could never do your job. To do, to celebrate a year's worth of geek scape, we're going to have a picnic in November. Okay. You're going to come. Awesome. At the end of the picnic, we're going to come back to Benz. We're going to all hang out here. Maybe upstairs. Sure. And we're going to watch like a full night gauntlet. Nice. I'm going to, I'm going to show, uh, spores, which is the one that we made in undergrad. Oh, geez. You're going to pull out the, all the film school stuff. Yeah. That one is unwatchable. But I must say, uh, you know, Resident Evil 3 was, I will see Resident Evil 4. You know that. Yeah. Well, of course, because you'll have this, you know, bash it the next day. I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's what we do. Why will I watch another Resident Evil 4? I will too. But why? I don't know. I know. I don't know what gets us to watch these movies. I paid six bucks for this one. Yeah. That's basically if you're with your friends that you can laugh with, six bucks. I watch it so that I could competently speak about it, which is kind of stupid when you think about it. Cause like, I probably could have said the exact same stuff, having not seen it. Yeah. That I'm saying, having now seen it. And it dents your intelligence so much that just trying to grab words out of the English language, because they're actually walking out of this movie. You can't speak about it competently. I'm talking about the Mike Epps character. Oh, Mike Epps character. I didn't want to say something about that. Yeah. That, you know what I'm sick of? Mike Epps, the comedian is in the stone. Anything else. What's that? Uh, that's not true, but at least very sick of, um, that don't know. Um, is characters in zombie movies who, they get bitten, but they don't tell anybody and they turn on someone. This happens very early on. We're not spoiling anything. Uh, what? Mike Epps character gets bitten very early in the movie. There's zombies in the movie. Yeah. People do get bit and, uh, it's just, but he keeps a secret. What do you do if, if you were with your homies, you're trying to survive in a zombie wasteland, right? Would you just blow your brains out when you get bitten? Well, I would you try and take as many of the motherfuckers with that. I would try to take as many as I could, but at the same, at the same token, I wouldn't do half the stupid shit that these people do in these movies. Like, like pull up to a motel, send two guys in. Yeah. And everybody else with guns is hanging out with the vehicles. We're going to send two guys in and they're going to go, no, let's say, and then like when the one guy, and they don't stick together, you know, help each other out. No. So of course like the one guy has issues, gets attacked. And he's tripped by a meter. Yeah. And then at the end of the day, what was the purpose of that entire stop? So, so let's say you stop, you're trying to get gas, you know, the kids need to pee, you stop at a place in the zombie wasteland. You know what I was thinking? You see a motel, start putting holes in the walls, right? You know what I mean? Just something where it's not a dark hallway anymore or the fucking place down. If that's why this book by Richard Mathis in the I Am Legend, why I think that the move to New York, I can understand why they moved the location from Los Angeles to the Will Smith movie, they moved to New York because you can't knock the damn buildings down. Yeah. One of the coolest things about the Richard Mathis in the book was he lived in a home where he had destroyed all the houses around it so that the vampires didn't have anywhere to rest at night, you know. And it's just common sense survival knowledge when you're living in a vampire. Well, what you learned really early on Resident Evil 3 is that a chain link fence can stop thousands of puns for five years. So when you end up fighting the zombies, they're pulling the metal grates off your car. Yeah, exactly. They're punching through humvees, but if you just put a fence up with some barbed wire at the top, they don't do anything. Like, it's oh my. So, oh, it's just, and the thing is you can't really go off and start throwing the lapses of logic around me because it's such a waste to endeavor because, of course, the lapses of logic. How many zombie issues do we have in the world today? But there are some geeks out there who might like this movie and might correct you. And we know it's still a ridiculous thing, but the ones pulling the grates off the cars were the super enhanced zombies and the ones around the fence were the regular shitties. Wait, wait, wait. But we're on a corporation. What about the crows? The crows will go through the windows. Now, now through the grates, they have master, they have cool beaks. They could fly over. These monster zombies that have been infected with this thing from the umbrella corporations. What I like is we know this. Yeah, you know that there's this happen in the second. This happened in the second one. Now, what I like is they put these zombies in uniforms. That was great. Just so you know which ones they are. You know, and they all look like gas station attendants job, put them in a gas station of tenants, uniform, and inject them with this. I like that. Okay, so here's a question about the Stevie scene. Everybody's seen this in the trailer, right? The Stevie scene, she she's looking through her little eyepiece or whatever. She she aims in, she aims right up on his name tag Stevie. She's the crossbow gets him right in the forehead. That is the worst aim whatsoever. I gotta tell you right now, she's adjusting for wind. Oh, okay, got you. Oh, wow. So she that's yeah. And then she used to her mind power. Okay. So we've talked about this movie a little too long. We got to talk about this trailer. We can't play it for you because I can't find a nice quick time adjustment for you guys. But this is Southland Tails. The next one from Richard Kelly. Have you seen this trailer? I have seen this trailer. Dwayne Johnson, it's got, you know, they put out these trade paper racks midway through the summer. They put these out graffiti designs, did it? Who else you have in this movie? You got Buffy in this movie? You got Buffy in this. You got Justin Timberlake. And you've got Stiffler. Stiffler's in this. Sean Williams got it. I like Sean Williams. I like Sean Williams. I'm not enough to go see this. I've got nothing against this. Mario Terry. In fact, actually as the trailer goes, it's kind of a, you kind of sit there and go, oh, they're in it too. Oh, that's in it too. Kevin Smith plays a guy. Kevin Smith, yep. So, right? So the trailer, I guess it gives, tries to give you a little bit of a plot because Dwayne Johnson is an actor researching with Sean Williams got the role of a cop. Because that's what, that's what they tell him. Dude, I don't know, but this Richard Kelly stuff. Because you have to, you have to know what it is. You have to read the graphic novels to have any idea. You've read the graphic novels? I've read the first one. Okay. And enough to know that watching the trailer, having read the first one, and just seeing what, I still don't, I mean, obviously I need to read two and three, but I don't think that's going to help me. Like, I don't think I'm going to get it. You don't think you're going, I, I, yeah, I didn't, I didn't get that. Yeah, I got Tony Darko. You are. But then again, but, but, but the question is, how did I get it? Did I get it by like Richard Kelly's definition? Did I get it by my own personal definition? Like, you know what I mean? Like, like, I, well, it's about possibilities. That's actually, Oh, that's what you say. That, well, actually, I'm stealing that from a Jimmy Duvall who played the rabbit in the movie. Okay. Yeah, it's actually, I asked him because he, he played, he was in the movie. And I'm like, I'm like, it's about diverging realities. Yeah, it's about diverging realities. If you listen to Richard Kelly, it's a superhero movie. Like he has to sacrifice himself to save this alternate reality. So there's that. So there's that aspect to it. But, but Jimmy, I mean, when I asked him, Jimmy was just like, he just stopped and he got acquired. And he was like, it's about possibilities. That's about like that was like the best answer I could have heard. That's an actor. Yeah, but it was good. You know, actors, they don't, they don't put a lot of thumbs. So they throw you cop out. They throw you cop out responses like, it's about like possibilities. Motherfucker, it's about a living off of pretending to be other people. Ben. Alright, I'm fucking with you. Stop running away from yourself and play yourself for once in your life. Find out who you really are. Like I'm fucking with you actors. I'm a big fan. I think really good actors have an enormously tough job. I mean, because you've been on set and you think about all the things that they have to ignore. They have to be able to do their, yeah, they have to be able to do their job. 100% of the habit this experience and then they broke it. Yeah, this, this, this experience, which is basically like a lighting guy off to the side drinking coffee. Like there's the grip and sleep in the corner. And depending on who the director is, you either got a guy screaming at you from across the room with two headphones on. He can't really hear what you're saying. I once, I was emailing back and forth with an actor about being in my short. Short never happened, but had he had he agreed to do it. I definitely would have, would have done it because he, he's a really good name and he couldn't do it because of time and this and that. But I told the boyfriend of a girlfriend's mom that I knew that we were talking about dinner and I said, yeah, his email, we've been talking and stuff. And he said, why don't you email him back and tell him, you make so much money for not doing anything for playing make believe. Oh, yeah, that'll go. And it's like, I think actors get paid this much like NBA players like sports stars. Yeah. Think about the jobs they provide. The only reason that dude is off camera eating a candy bar is