Geekscape

Geekscape 40: Snausage Fest

Guest Co-host: Horror Superfan Ruben Olague! - Review: "Hatchet"! News: The Iron Man trailer rocks! Who is the Punisher villain? Indy 4 gets a title! Comics: Rick Remender's "Sorrow"! Wildstorm's "New Line Tales of Horror"! Jonathan talks with Bruce Timm about the "Superman/Doomsday" DVD! Video Games: Ninja Gaiden 2 goes 360 exclusive! Christian Bale as Solid Snake? Forums: Best movie songs and Jonathan reviews New Found Glory's "From the Screen to Your Stereo 2"! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 18 Sep 2007
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(upbeat music) ♪ Come and make some movies ♪ ♪ Read a picture that we're going to ♪ ♪ Read your videos ♪ ♪ Read your videos ♪ ♪ For I say the part I think ♪ ♪ I say to the ♪ ♪ Geekscape ♪ ♪ In the world behind ♪ ♪ All your friends are waiting ♪ ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ ♪ Now there's George in the show ♪ - That's so radical. - So hi everybody out there on the internet. Welcome to episode 40 of "Geekscape." Can you believe that we're at episode 40 already, guys? - It's 40. - Wow. - Well, Ruben, this is my guest, Ruben Olagi. - Olagi. - I've known you for three or four years and I've always thought it was-- - Oh, leg. - Oh, leg. - Most people do. - Most people do, but it's Olagi. - Olagi. - This is my buddy Ruben Olagi. He's a horror film aficionado. - Aficionado. - Connoisseur. - Fan. - Fan. - Well, we're gonna talk catch it on this episode of "Geekscape." We're gonna bring you the next hour's worth of movie, reviews, news. We've also got video games, comic books, basically everything you want as a geek, coming at you in one little bite-sized chunk. So, sit down and get ready for it. We gotta get more over here on the right. Do not pander with ugly mug. - I just don't want to-- - I look good today. - I know you don't. - I've got Ben over here agreeing with me. I don't want people sending me like their iPod, their PFPs, 'cause you broke it. (laughing) You look like-- - With my beauty. - With my beauty. Do you ever watch "Land of the Lost?" You remember this, Chaka? - Yes, that's your hair is Chaka-ish. - No, no, no, no. Today, you don't look like Chaka. You look like one of the Ugnots from Empire Strikes Back. The little dudes who take apart C-3PO in Cloud City. (laughing) - No, that's great. - That's great. (laughing) - That's great. - Well, I look like a snowman. - Yeah, yeah, Ben looks like a snowman. (laughing) Wow, yeah, no. John's always just got the cow pen going only, not as successful. - The Ugnots, the Ugnots from Cloud City. (clapping) Say hi to Lando. - So, you're watching "Geekscape." We're gonna bring you a ton of reviews and news. Let's stop talking about it. Let's introduce everybody to Ruben. - Ruben and I met at a 20th anniversary, right at 30th celebration. - Yeah, 25th. - 25th. - This guy knows this is a horror fact. - Yeah. - And I had gay by Don playing. I sent you a copy. - Yeah, I sent you a copy. - Did you like it? Now, how do you feel about it? Coming from a straight man. How do you feel I nailed the gay by Don? Like, did everything. - Well, except for the pink bow, I thought it was kind of cool. - So, the pink bow was-- - But I understand what you're trying to do. - That is a straight man's view of the gay experience. - It's like an umbilical cord thing. - Oh, okay, pink. I will have you, if I do a feature, I will have you on set to be like the dude saying, "No, no, no, no." - What should it-- - That's not right. - Where should it admit the gay consultant? - A leather whip. - I don't know. - A leather whip? - Yeah, hold on. (laughing) - I'll email you. - You'll be on set? - That's right. - You'll be on set. You'll do the dance number. - Yeah, thanks. - Now we're just being assholes. - Okay, so we've got "Hatch It Reviews." This is the one from Adam Green. - Adam Green. - His first time filmmaker. A movie about a bunch of kids, two kids mainly, they're at Mardi Gras in New Orleans. They don't wanna hang around with a bunch of drunk people. We've got "Dark Spiting" over the left. (laughing) - You like it. - You're right. - You got some Michael Big stuff going on over here. (laughing) - A friendship to Boston. Are you seeing this? - Help me. - That looks like Michael Big stuff. - And they were so slow and fluid. - What do you want over there? (laughing) - Wow, okay, we've got some action. So you've got these college kids. (laughing) I think that's enough. - Man, you scared 'em. - You're gonna get 'em more. - Chaka. - Chaka, chaka, I'm not scared 'em. So you've got these kids, they don't, you know, one of 'em wants to do a, like a haunted swamp tour. - It's correct, yes. - And the haunted swamp tour breaks down, of course, in the middle of it, Victor Crowley. - Victor Crowley. - The ghost of Victor Crowley is on the swamp. - The ghost of Victor Crowley, yeah. - The ghost that happens to grab people and rip the top of their heads up, break 'em into. - Now, we've got Freddy, Jason, Mike Myers, is there room for Victor Crowley? - Actually, don't forget you got Jigsaw too, right now. - Okay. - Which is still like, I think I just heard last night at my scary movie group that there's signed on five and six, I think. - Wow. - And they're only gonna have four. - I haven't seen it. - And the next month? - I saw like the first 15 minutes of the first sauce. - I haven't seen any like previews at all for, I mean, I saw a quick trailer for "Saw" for, at the, for "Halloween" opening night, but I haven't seen anything online about it, which is really strange. Last year, there was stuff popping up for "Saw 3" all over the place, little scenes here and there and everything, but no one's seen anything. - Do you think this, what are you doing? - They have a viral thing on the internet. - Oh, they do? - For some more. - For some more. - Where it's, we got the press thing about it. There's something about who's on the tape and you could go somewhere, you can listen to some tape recording. - Wow. - And it's some, you know, cute little like, oh hey, what is this? - Do you think this frame is slowing down for some time? - Saw, I don't because it's gotten bigger every year. I don't know if, the thing is with like hostile two and like captivity and all that crap. It's like, it's like, I mean, I liked hostile two, but it did seem like a little bit rushed to me. I wish he would have spent more time working on it. - Also do his gift grab. - It was enjoyable, but it wasn't-- - But it was enjoyable, except for the last five minutes. - That's true. - Okay, whatever. (laughing) - Well, it was a lot better than captivity. - You got the horror master. - Thank you. - Don't have a pack tag. Go on your own. - Whatever. - I like that. (laughing) - Yes. - Yes. - We got it. - Yeah. - We'll do it. - Fabulous. - Oh man, it's signed up, he's signed up, buddy. - So back to Hadget. How do you think this one ranks in there for the first time? It's an indie movie. - Because it's independent and because it's more of, it feels like, I've written actually my review yet for it, but because it feels like it's a throwaway to a good old fashioned '80s slasher movie, I think it's gonna do really well. And I think that, I don't know if it's gonna rejuvenate anything, but it's a lot better than watching the torture movies because the torture movies are starting to get, well, I'm not starting to get, they are stale now and people are like, okay, well, how many arms can you see cut off and saw this, though? - You wanna see them get pulled off by a giant retard? - Exactly. (laughing) - It's not retarded, it's distinct. - It's different in the way. - No, yeah, he is retarded. - This movie, you're right, was a lot of fun. I mean, my only knocks against it are things that I think, in a certain sense, helped the movie, which are the production values. I feel like Adam Green did the best he could with the amount of money he had. And some of the shots, some of the scenes looked a little stagey, you know, but. - But started all the '80s slasher movies. - Yeah, look at that first nightmare on Elm Street. Doesn't 100% hold up, you know? Especially the end with the fire. - Yeah. - It doesn't work, sleep away camp. You have, and I think that horror fans are the most forgiving genre fans, period. And production values is one of those things. In directing the camera moves and things like that. - I think the thing is. - I think the thing is, - is a better visual director. - Yeah. - The stories, I don't care. - You have to take into consideration that the horror fans are people that will, even if they don't think the movie's great, they're still gonna buy it. If there's a convention, there's somebody in a movie that wasn't great, they're still gonna want their autograph. The thing is that there's still fans true and true because of the genre itself. So I mean, even if a movie like Hatchet doesn't do well in the theaters, you know, it's gonna do well in DVD and in conventions and stuff like that, because it's a director that actually poured his heart into it instead of just Hollywood saying, okay, we want something to make captivity too. - So it's a matter of sincerity. - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah, that's what I really liked about it. It had a lot of heart, I loved Planet Terror. - Yes, Planet Terror was awesome. - And Planet Terror was like, oh, hey, look, guys, remember that these are all these things about this genre, but Hatchet was like, you know what, here's this genre. - Yeah, exactly, just, here it is. - This one did seem like a kid who's 100% grew up on it. We interviewed Adam Green and some of the people were involved in Hatchet in some of the past episodes. And yeah, this movie was exactly what I expected walking in. - Correct, exactly. - It's a lot of fun. If you guys are gonna love this on DVD if it hasn't been playing in your neighborhood. - It's gonna be on the right end of it. It's gonna be on the right end of it. - Now you said your boyfriend didn't like it. - Correct. - Now, I kind of have a problem with people downloading just this movie in particular. I mean, when Ben and I went to the screening that we went to, the writer/director was there and he basically, you know, this is coming out in a really limited release. - Correct. - It's, you know, you can't find it anywhere and it's really an indie movie. Put everything you had into it. And think movies like this, I actually do kind of wanna go out and support. I totally understand that, but-- - King of Kong, yeah, King of Kong, exactly. It's like a movie that you're not gonna get, but the few theaters it does show in, I think people should go to King of Kong, but people that have been downloading on the internet, I know a few people on our boards have not liked it. - Well, the thing is, I don't condone the downloading, like I told him to begin with, but the thing is he's in Australia and it's not playing anywhere. Keep in mind that when I told him about Halloween, he really wants to see Halloween. So he looked on the website to see when it's gonna be playing in Australia and there's no date. - For the Halloween? - For Halloween, no, for Halloween, in Australia. So, hatchet, good luck, Australia. I mean, I would love it if it did, but it's not something he can go, I mean, you might have to spend a day going traveling to Australia. - Wait, what was the experience? - Well, see, that's just it. That's what I told him. Well, he saw it before I did, and he didn't like it, and I was like, well, that's kind of interesting, 'cause everything I've read and seen about it looks like it'd be a fun movie just to watch. So when I saw it, I totally loved it. And when I was talking to some friends after, and I thought, you know, the reason he didn't like it was because he sat there at his computer, watching it by himself, he didn't get the full on experience, plus he didn't feel like he's 22, so I mean, the thing is he didn't really grow up on the 80s, yeah. - I'm 22. - Okay. - You're trying to pick up my guess. - He tried to steal my water, too. - Do you have an accent? Do you have an accent? Does your man have an accent? Is it sexy? - Yes. Yeah, it is. - Does he ever, in bed, does he go? - I wouldn't know yet. - Do you just met him on the internet or what? - Well, I'm February. - Can we back, get back to him. - I wouldn't know about your life, this is a relationship. You met this, when are you gonna meet the guy or so? When are you gonna meet this guy in person? - He comes here on November 19th. - On November 19th? - Oh, that's cool. - We gotta bring the camera. - Yeah, okay. Ding dong, Avon. - That's the one thing the truth is, Ruben might already have a camera present. - I hear no say well. (laughing) - So, you met this guy, it is, he got-- - On my face. - Through the horror panel? - Is he a horror panel? - No, no, through my face. No, he actually, yeah, he met. He knew somebody-- - I've got computers in my space. - In Australia. - In Australia. - No, yeah, I'm saying-- - Just not hatchet. - I just never met anyone that's actually met someone. - Actually, I have two friends in my space. - No, we find on November, if he actually is worth anything. He could be lying. - He could be some seven-two-year-old bald man, give me fake videos and stuff and stuff. - Roastness, yeah. - You gotta have, you gotta have the catcher predator there. - That's true. - Is it they to rest you? (laughing) - I'm Mark Hansen. - So, hatchet. - Chris. (laughing) - Chris Hansen. - Chris Hansen. - Um, you're like, yeah, no, I like talking about the relationships with them. - I can tell. - Your eyes lit up. - Any other reviews show you can get a bunch of people saying that the Robert E. Burt, it's bullshit. - And why didn't you like that with him? - What's up with him? - What's up with all these niggas? - Roger Ebert? - Roger Ebert? - I don't read that fat guy shit. (laughing) - I don't read that. - He's dying. - He's dying. - He is dying. - He's dying. - I know, he's dying. - He's dying. - Hey, baby. - We're all dying. All right, we're all dying. - All right. - You just eats a lot. - Dr. Hatchet. - Dr. Hatchet. So actually, you know what I'm saying? It was that it's, I think that it's gonna lose a lot when it comes to DVD. Because if you sit there alone in your room and watch it, it's not gonna be as fun as having a whole theater there, especially having a friend next to you watching it because, you know-- - That's one of those movies also where you can get together with a bunch of people and watch it. - Oh, yeah, definitely. - Like Trapped in the Closet. You're, is he Trapped in the Closet? - No, but I've been. - He's a girl. (laughing) - Oh, but yeah, like movies like that were, it just comes out on DVD and you know, it would be great with a lot of people. - Oh, correct. - You could definitely get people together to watch it. - Like Chugrel. - Like Chugrel. - Like Trapped in Closet. - Yeah, I cannot wait. - I cannot wait. - I cannot wait. - I gotta let you borrow our Kelly's Trapped in Closet. It is, it is a horror movie in itself. - Great. - Yeah. - So I would love to see a hatchet too. - I would love to see another one of these. - You would not? - We don't need to see another one. - We don't need to see something-- - Not hatchet too, but something, you know, I mean-- - Something else from Adam. - Okay, when Scream came out and all of a sudden everybody started making Scream rip-ups, there were a couple of good, not great, but a couple of good ones that were enjoyable to watch in the theater. Valentine was okay, it was okay just because, I don't know, it was okay. I can't stand David Borean. - Why not? - No, Denise Richards was better. - Oh wow, that's one for you. That's for you Denise. - One for you Denise. One vote for her in the world. - Man, these are the geeks, so they're gonna take angel's side. - I like, of course they are. I liked, I didn't like, I know what you did last summer. Those sucked, actually. But I did like the, what's a shit, what's that? - Can I say shit? - I didn't say anything. - This is the internet. - So was you. - No. (laughs) - No, I can't think of the name. - The only one with the kids are finally a destination. - Well finally this nation was awesome. - Yeah. - But that was a, I don't really think that was a long way. - I don't know this nation should be called Don't Be Clumsy motherfuckers. - But at the same time-- - Basically I wouldn't tie my shoes if I thought that was happening. (laughs) - I wouldn't be shaving. - That was huge. - Yeah. - I wouldn't do anything, I wouldn't, I would like myself on a closet and just like not leave. And then the house ends up getting hit and it falls on me. - That's what I always thought, yeah. - Oh shit. - But people are like going and working out and shit. - He's trying to remember me. - I'm stumped from the kind of internet. - What is this? - I don't know. - You got me, you got me. - Oh. - Is it that magical movie or something? - I never saw it. - The magical movie. - No, no, that was what's his best suggestion. - Jessica Elba and what's the guy? - Devin Sawlar. - Devin, yeah, I think some filed us, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Uh huh. - Who got arrested. - Who's in all those movies from that? Like a crack? - Who is in this movie? - Or I can't think of it. - Do not take a crack on my camera. - I can't think of it. - Oh shit. - Well what do you think of it? What are you thinking of? - I'm trying to think of the black chicken at the movie with-- - Oh, with Moisha? - Yeah, Daniel Harris was in it. And she was the gothic chick. - What did you exhale? What was it? Was it still not a group back? - Oh. - Yes. - What? - I'm trying to think of it. I can't remember. - You're trying to think of some movie with Moisha? - Rebecca Gayhart was the villain in the first one. It was-- - Urban Legend. - Urban Legend, yeah. Urban Legend was a really, really good one. - Did you like the one with Joey Lawrence in it? He was one of the sequels? - That one was fun. It wasn't 'cause of the first, but it was fun. - So you're a horror fan. - Urban Legend. - So listen, these are all slasher movies. But I'm just saying, as far as the movies would scream, the movies that scream inspire, as far as that little five, six year thing. - Do you want to see it? - These are all the reasons I like Tachys. I would like to see the ghost movies go away. I would like to see these Japanese-- - The Asian or with the hair. Yes. - Cool, I'm not in the way. - They're going away. I don't think they're making Grudge 3. - Adam Green is trying. - You make Grudge 3? - That's one of the things that he always does as a sound bite when he's promoting Hatchet is this movie didn't get made and basically the biggest obstacle was that people broke back literally where we can't make this. And you know this isn't going to come in. - It's true. - I like because it's not Japanese. It's not a remake. - It's not a remake. - Gilmore. - Gilmore. - Yeah. - He said that on our show. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He's quoting him. - Oh. - You know who I ran into at the dog park with Scott Glosserman made a movie called Behind the Mask? Rise of Leslie Vernon? You've got to see this movie. It's another one that, it's another horror movie Incra Bay put out. - I haven't seen every single horror movie ever made. - Don't let him in. - Don't let him in. - I've never seen this one. - You just gasped. - When I say that someone always gasped. - Those are the scary movies back when it wasn't slasher, it wasn't like gore. It was like let's try and scare the shit and let's try. - Reuben, are you qualified to be shudding here? - What are you kidding? They didn't have the production value for it. That's all the extra since last night in a cemetery. - He went to the cemetery. - In a cemetery screening and he got picked up by this Persian girl who was drunk. - In the bathroom. - Smell like Martha's Vineyard. - She smelled like Martha's Vineyard. He looked up, her brother was running at him. - With a scimitar? - With a scimitar. - With a hatchet. - That's a movie I need to make scimitar. Especially now with this whole crusade, his love, his love, I'm going to make this movie scimitar. Do you know who the killer is going to be? - Al Paden. - I'm kidding, VJ. I'm kidding. VJ is Indian. He's not Middle Eastern. - Oh. - I did see a good Indian movie. A good buddy who made an Indian movie, I would see. - Oh, that's so funny. - That's how we were going to talk about my boyfriend. - As if the person-- - Now! - When we were talking about the boyfriend, you wanted to do a magic. - I thought we were talking about anything. - The horror story that came out of this cemetery screening that you told me was a friend of a friend of a friend who listened to this story as Gilmore told it to me. This guy goes out and gets drunk at a bar. Meets a girl. They get housed. They go home together. He stumbles upstairs with her place. They have drunken sex. Wakes up the next morning, she still asleep, realizes she's dead. - What? - I thought you hate that. - She's had alcohol poisoning. - Oh, I know. - And she's dead. He's like, "What the fuck do I do?" They were having sex. He doesn't know when she was still dead. He doesn't know when she died. - It was drunken sex. - They were having drunken sex. - Don't have drunken sex, kid. - So that's over as I'm up real quick. - Correct. - He calls the police. He realizes he's got to do something about this. As he makes his way out of the room, he realizes that she's got a daughter and he has to tell this little girl, who's awake now, that no, he did not look her to death. - They made sweet love. - The police are on their way. He says, "Your mom's still asleep. Let me make you breakfast." He has to sit there, make you breakfast for this little girl, as she's like, "Where's mommy?" - Oh, yeah. She's asleep. However horrific is that. That would be a great short film. - Oh, God. - At least she's not frank. - Dad's brutal. - At least she's not frank. - Wow. - Wow. - That's awesome. - Moving. - Now I see why he's a horror fan, though. - I see why he's a horror fan, though. - You know what? You know what? One thing I want to see when I catch it, and this will be the end of it, is the gags are great. And that's one thing in horror movies that I loved. These gags are awesome with the slime and the bit with the raccoons and the bushes. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. - This movie has some great gags. - Don't give it away. Some big ladders say it yet. - Okay. - You guys. - Have it rented or bought it yet? - No. - That bush. - That bush has some poop. - But it does look, it looks great. I love that there's no CG. - Yeah. - You know? - Yeah. - I saw the remake of Not Don of the Dead, Day of the Dead, starring Nick Cannon and Mina Suvari. - Suvari, yeah. - Wow. - Terrible. It had those spider zombies where they're like climbing on the walls. - Oh, but it was all CGI? - It was all CGI. You know what was CGI? That's the reason I like Hatchet. - The Hatchet? - The Blood. - The Blood. - Well, they do know that a lot more lately. - No, but anyone based. - Oh, really? - And it looks like a video game. - Oh, really? - It's disgusting. But anyways, Hatchet was great. - Let's move on. Did you see the Iron Man trailers that came out? - I didn't get a chance to see it yet. And I didn't do my homework. - It's so good. - This Iron Man trailer is amazing. - I hate the trailer, but I love it. - Why do you hate the trailer? - I think I'm going to like the movie a lot. - Why do you hate the trailer? - It's great. It's really cheesy. I don't know. The whole time that I was looking forward to an Iron Man trailer, I kept thinking, "Alright, this is going to be good from what I've seen. The suit looks good and everything, but just please, just don't be so cheeseball to have fucking the Iron Man song, the fucking song that-- - It's the trailer, buddy. - It's the black. - It's the black. - It's the black. - How about you relax? - But that's the thing. I hate the trailer. I think the movie's going to-- looks great. Except for that song in the trailer, trailer's great. - Who's going to say that too? - Why don't you like this? - You're not American. - How cheesy is that? - It's fine. - How cheesy. - Just relax. - It turns me on. It's Jesus. - Everything turns. You know what? You turn America off. - Oh, wait. This is just America? - You don't, honestly. The-- - No, no. He's huge in Poland. - What is Paltrow? I wasn't buying it to begin with. But seeing her in that trailer, she actually looks like Pepper Pods. - Yeah. Seeing Gwynne Paltrow, you see Gwynne Paltrow. You see Jeff Bridges. You bet you didn't know he's in the movie. Terence Howard, do you see him? - Yeah. - This movie's going to be good. - It's so cool. - Robert Downey Jr. is Iron Man. It's got to be good. - Perfect. - Well, I'm so glad to recognize your same theater there with Robert Downey Jr. - Great. - It's a little bit of a snorafest. - Yeah, well. - A little bit of a snorafest. - But the-- - I can see why Ben Funnelfish Dunn thought it was great, though. He loves sending us after bad movies. - But the end of the Iron Man trailer, where he's just kind of flying alongside the jets. - That's great. - How cool is that? - Very good. - How cool is that? - I don't like Ultraman. You know, or something like that. - You should. Ultraman is amazing. So we got some more news in comic books. Everybody thought that this guy from Hot Fuzz was going to be Jigsaw in the Punisher movie? Okay. Jigsaw is the next Punisher movie. - Okay. - He gets carved up. - Okay. - He gets carved up. - Yeah. - The dude with the mustache who plays the antagonist? - No. - No. - No. Patty. Considine. He was the dude who's like, "You and your monkey." - Okay. All right. - You know, he's a comedic actor in that. - Oh, right, right. - He was also in Born Ultimatum. - Yeah. - Did you see Born Ultimatum? - No, it's not yet. - He plays the journalist at the very beginning. - Yes. - At the very beginning, he plays the journalist. - Yes. - Don't ruin it forever. - Well, it turns out that he's not going to be Jigsaw. He's a very good actor, but he's not going to play Jigsaw in the Punisher movie. He got the script. He got the offer, but the first person they went to accepted it, and that hasn't been announced yet. - No. - I'm looking forward to Jigsaw. - The dude who's completely being carved up by the Punisher pieces his face back together and comes after Frank Castle. - That's cool. - That's exciting. - Yeah. - I hung out with the Punisher last Monday, or last Wednesday night. Thomas Jane? - Thomas Jane. - We were shooting this thing for, it's like a commentary for digital comics, and they're doing all the raw studio stuff. - What do you mean commentary for digital comics? - Well, you know how they have this raw studio? It's him, Tim Bradstreet and Steve Niles. They have their own comic publishing company, and they put out Bad Planet in this other one called Alien Pig Farm, 3000, which is awesome. - That's awesome. The 3000. - So there's this company, I'm friends with these guys, they're gonna be on the show here and there, and they're putting out digital versions of the comics. The comics are out in print. You can pick them up at your store, but they're taking the comics, they're digitizing them, and then you can watch them on your PSP, you can download them, we'll watch them and stuff like this. But it's visual, so you're watching the comic and things are coming at you, it really kind of enhances the comic book. You can also choose to have, not just a soundtrack, but you can choose to have a director, like creator commentary. - That's kind of cool. So what kind of set, like does it have scary noises, like scary noises? - I don't know. I had a camera and we recorded the commentary tracks with them, and then we went to like Pink's until 2am. - That's cool. - Is that gonna take the place of comic books then? - I don't think so. I don't think you're ever gonna replace comics. It's like, the internet's never gonna replace radio or TV, you know? It's all these gonna, everybody's gonna have their little music. - But it hasn't, it hasn't, the internet in a sense, replaced it right now. - It's dented it, but it's kind of dented it in the same way that television dented, 'cause I know everybody, nobody at my work listens to the radio on the radio, they listen to stations on the computer 'cause there's nothing. - And I've got that satellite and I listen to that, but I think there's room for all of it, you know? - In your car, you can't listen to the internet on radio. - Can't you get a satellite? - I listen to this. - I listen to my satellite. - People listen to this. - On your iPod. - On there. - It's all competing, it's all competing. - When I listen to-- - Talk converging. - When I used to listen to my car. - No, you didn't. - Yeah. I was a pizza delivery guy. - Martin Shearer, he's one of our Canadian listeners, says that he's almost driven off the road a couple times listening to this show. Mainly out of anger. - What's your biggest tap? - Because Gilmore won't shut up, or can you say it? - So we got the Indiana Jones title, have you heard the Indiana Jones title? - The Indiana Jones title? - Yeah, the title, the new movie. You know how they got Raiders Law star, this new one, you're hearing this for the first time, right? - Christ, yeah. - It's Indiana Jones in the magic purple bunnies of-- (laughter) - My aggro of doom. (laughter) - That would be good. It's Indiana Jones in the kingdom of the Crystal Skull. - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. - That's all we get. - Wow. - Wow. - Yeah, I know, I know. - It kind of hit with a thud, you know? - It's a little too long. - Yeah, it is a bit long. - Well, we'll wait and see the movie, that's really all you can do with the Indiana Jones stuff, you know what I mean? - Yeah, Kingdom of the Crystal. - Almost cocks. - Almost spells out cocks, yeah, cool, cocks. - Indiana Jones, cocks. - My gator just went off in a big way. - With his pink glass. - My pink glass, my light blue shirt. - His light blue shirt. - Oh, America. - So, let's talk about our sponsor real quick, NetRiver.net. It's our sponsor, you go to their website, you can get a hosting plan, let's say you play like these server games, you know? They've got this really cool one called Left 4 Dead coming out with the zombies, cool. A lot of our audience plays PC games, I've got a Mac, I can't talk PC games too much. But if you guys play these online games and you need like a hosting server, go to NetRiver.net. They'll hook you up. If you need a domain, go to NetRiver.net, they'll hook you up, email Josh at NetRiver.net or sales@netriver.net, you'll get yourself a really cheap deal and no technical bugs. - They can get it even cheaper for us though. - You can get it cheaper for us because we're going to throw you a discount. 10% off if you put in the commercial code, Gilmore, I know, he detracts from your geekscape experience. Here's our way of saying sorry. 10% off by putting in the name Gilmore. That's our little promotional code. So, NetRiver.net, check them out, they have a new website coming up, why am I checking my phone? I've got business to you. - What else do you want? - We've got to talk comics. - You read comics? - No. - Would you read comics if they made a comic book like this with Freddy and Leatherface on it? - New Line Cinema's Tales of Horror. - Right. - Check that out. New Line Cinema's Tales of Horror. I picked this up just because I knew we were going to be talking about this stuff. - Wow. - Which, it's supposedly Wildstorm is putting out some pretty quality comics based on Nightmare on Home Street, Friday 13th, stuff like this. This is not one of them. - Oh. - You know, I can understand like a lot of, I can understand like creators who work in comics really wanting to work with these characters in these worlds. Wildstorm's not going out and getting them. - Neither is anyone. - You know, Pete Milligan is a pretty good writer. He wrote like, he wrote some of the X books for a while. - What's one movie? - Some of the artworks okay, but first off, I'm not a Leatherface. - He looks pretty. - Yeah. - Um, Leatherface is I. - But he doesn't have that sense of humor. You know what I mean? You need that sense of humor. Like Jason even has a sense of humor, he doesn't even say anything. - Yeah. - I suppose. - Freddy is all sense of humor. - That's really hard comic books though because you have that like really shitty like sloppy kind of like black summer looking art, you know, that really indie press like bad art that could be, you know, it looks, it's trying to look a little cool. But at the same time it's trying to look scary. Like sort of the juxtaposition of those two is kind of hard to portray an comic. - I can see how horror and comics is difficult because of the pacing issues that are so crucial to a good horror movie, you know, because it's almost all pacing. It's like that, it's like alien. You don't see an alien for a long time. - Correct. - Have you ever been scared of that comic? - The comic that I would call a horror comic, it's not based on pacing, but something like the Walking Dead was a zombie book. - It doesn't scare me. - Yeah, it doesn't scare you. I think it builds its drama, not through pacing and fear. It builds it through just running their characters to the ringer. - But it's not like a horror, like it's trying to scare you or anything. - There have been times when Walking Dead where I turn in the corner and somebody, one of my characters is getting chomped on suddenly. - That's a little surprising. - It's surprising and you get that, you know? So you can do it if you're a very good writer and you have a really good artist, but this one, Tales of Horror, that's Tales of Your 250 just going down the drain. - But if you guys do want to get a good comic that I like, it's an issue one that I picked up. - Only one issue came out and it came out last week. It's by Rick Remender, it's called Sorrow. Now Rick Remender is the guy who's doing Fear Agent, which I think is awesome. - Fear Agent, which I love. - I think it's so good. - That last issue is great. - It is. - This guy can do a cliffhanger at the end of every issue that works. - I love it. - This is a fun, like, guys with laser guns fighting aliens with, you know, brain aliens type old school sci-fi, you know, space quest-y type. - But it's real though. I mean, it's really realistic. - Oh yeah, you see people get blown apart. But I mean, it's not really hokey, like, I'll get you, you know, it's, it's kind of like it is. - Do that again. - Do that again. - It's like, look at you. Look at you. - It's a munchkin. - But it's like walking. - Yes, it is a munchkin. - Wow. Hey, look at this. - That's a munchkin. - The munchkin fucking lives off camera and talks, not every now and then you see a chicken wing or a finger. Come on camera. - But fear agent, fear agent is seriously one of tree houses, they don't live in tree houses. - They don't fucking live in tree houses. - Oh, there you go. There you go. Now you're proud of yourself. Drink out of your pick up. You're a great human being. Do it, toast to yourself. But fear agent, I think, is really, really great because it's what the Walking Dead started off as. - So what's the sorrow? - Sorrow. - Who's putting this on? - I don't know who's putting it. I think it's image. - Okay. - And image is solid. - Yeah, image is better now than when they launched. - Yeah, image is one of my favorite publishers. If it's image, I'm interested, you know. But sorrow is by your commander and it has that same Walking Dead black and white, but it's inked really, really well on the style. And here's what it is. You have a douche bag who's riding a car with two chicks. - When you say douche bag, we got to give them a visual representation of that word. - Oh, why don't you pan over there. - Shut the fuck up. - So you have a douche bag's driving a car and then he drives it really, really fast and he's trying to scare these two girls and then they pick up this hitchhiker. And they pick up the hitchhiker and they crash into a pole into this ghost town because they want to get away. So they're in the middle of nowhere. And so basically they're stranded in the middle of nowhere and they have-- - Sorrow. - In Sorrow, Nevada. And supposedly you don't really know at first, but it's really creepy. You see this really creepy little kid. You see like all these people who are acting really weird. This guy has like flies on his face and just the way that it's done, it looks like it's going to be really great. What happens with the synopsis is I think the government testing killed a bunch of people in this town, basically everyone's dead, but they haven't said it yet so it's going to come out. It's good storytelling so far. - They're dead too. We don't know yet. - Oh. - Hmm. - I don't know. See other off-camera voice. The sorrow, it looks like it feels like a Saturday sci-fi horror film. - Oh, okay. - That's what it feels like right now like that. - sci-fi channel? - Like the sci-fi channel. - The sci-fi channel. Like the Saturday industry. - Yeah, yeah. - The most dangerous night of television. - Yeah. - Starring Casper Vandy. - It's always got Casper Vandy and her Bruce Campbell or Tony Todd. - It's Casper Vandy. - Chris McArpender. - Chris McArpender. - Chris McArpender one. - Yeah. - You know, the whole undead anyway. - Well, I'll check it out just because, I mean, I will check it out just because Rick Remender is writing it. So if it's the dude from "Fear Age" and I'm going to read it. - Yeah. - And that's, when you told me about it, I thought it was like a couple of shoes in. - No. - I'm picking it up. - And it looks like it's going to have a female heroine. - We will see. So we've got-- - It's supposed to be a male heroine. - Which is a good one. - Which is a good horror girl. - I know. Instead of hero. - Video game. Oh, wait. I'm not done with comics because we've got to talk about Bruce Tim because this "Death of Superman" DVD is coming out next week or as of the broadcast, this show. Bruce Tim is the guy you know him from "Animated Batman." - He did "Batman the Animated Series." - He did "Batman the Animated Series." - "Batman the Animated Series." - Batman the Animated Series ever made. - Write some comics every now and then. He put together a DVD based on "The Death of Superman" that happened in the early '90s. - Okay. - But this is like an animated version. We sat down with him at Comic-Con and I got a chance to interview him about the DVD putting it together and working with one of our favorites, Thomas Jane from "Firefly." Take a ass actor. - Thomas Jane. God. - Guys, I'm horrible with the-- - Pause. - Name, head it. - Name, language. - Oh. - What's this? - Adam Baldwin. - Adam Baldwin. - Who played Jane. - That's how you understand how my head's working. - See, I get where it's working. - My head isn't working. - No, I get where it's going though because every time you say Thomas Jane, I think of that character. - Dude, you should've seen him. - Jane. - That's really awesome. - Oh, man. - Oh, nice guy. Nice guy. Nice guy. Nice guy. Had a lot of fun. - Yeah, bad. He did it then. - Here's that clip. We'll be right back. - What's up, guys? We're here at Comic-Con. - Well, let me start that over. We know where we are. - That really suck. - We know where we are. - That's bad, dude. - Horrible. You want to do it in the intro? - No, please. Be my guest. - We're gone. - Get your hat together, guy. - Come on. - We've got a treat for you. How are you guys doing? We have a special guest. Why don't you introduce yourself to the Geekscapes? - I'm Bruce Timmy. - The Geekscapes is where we all talk about the things that we love, movies, video games, comics. Think of it kind of as a view for geeks, or Dr. Phil, if you've got some really deep things that you've got to get out. So we're here promoting Doomsday Superman. - Yeah. - Superman Doomsday. - Superman Doomsday. - Because he's... - He's the star. - He's the star. He's Superman. - You directed it? - Yes. - And what was the other role on the film? Did some writing on it? I mean, it's animation. You got to do all of it. - Co-wrote the story with Wayne Capese, and I co-directed it with Lauren Montgomery and Brandon Vieri, and I produced it, and I designed a lot of the main characters, and a little bit of everything. - How long was the process of putting this project together? - It was pretty quick. We got started on at early spring of last year, and I don't know. It wasn't a real long production schedule. It was pretty short. Pretty tight. - And compared to the short-reformed weekly television episodes, what's the main difference when you're going from a weekly cartoon to a feature? What's some of the creative things that need to change? - The biggest thing, obviously, is that in a weekly cartoon, you've already got a lot of your stock characters already built, and all of your backgrounds already built. You don't have to redesign the planning, you don't have to redesign Lex Building. So here, it was starting over completely, so everything had to be built up from scratch, and all new Superman design, all new Lex design, all new Lois, everybody. So that's the tricky part of the challenge, is that you don't have a lot of the stuff already sitting in the drawer. You've got to reinvent the wheel. - And plus, you want to separate it from the weekly. This isn't a TV movie, this is its own beast, its own thing, and you guys take it in places that the television series would never go. How much of it did you take from the early 90s storyline, the Paul Jenkins stuff? How much of that ends up in the animated film, or is it something that you've completely thrown your own take on, the story of Superman versus Doomsday, and the way it works out? - It's a little of both, I think it's faithful to the original comics in broad strokes. We looked at it as we broke it down and thought that there was about six or seven main things that absolutely had to be there for it to actually be an adaptation of the Death of Superman. There were places where we kind of needed to twist the story off in a different direction so there didn't follow the storyline of the comics exactly, but in broad strokes it really does. It's clearly inspired by the comic, much more so than the previous Death of Superman show that we had done on Justice League. - Why separate them, that's what I wanted to learn. - I don't like masks, masks are the fantastic, we say, are the same, but it's really amazing. - So something like the Mask of the Phantasm works itself into the animated Batman series. Why separate them? - Why separate what? - Superman Doomsday from the animated Superman show. It's mostly a way of rebranding, rebranding the character for a completely different audience because this is aimed directly at 13-year-olds and older. It's aimed more squarely at the comic book fan audience and the mainstream audience. It's not, the old show, even though it did have crossover audience as well, but it was still, it was a six to 11-year-old show and it was marketed that way. More importantly, it was marketed that way on a home video. So everything about this is going to be marketed to an older audience. - The DVD buying audience, it's not being targeted at target moms. So changing the look and changing the backstories of the characters and recasting it, that was all about rebranding it. - And directing the voice cast, someone like Adam Baldwin who already has a geek following from things like Serenity and Firefly, this is a totally different role for him. How much input and how much molding did you have because you're a Superman aficionado. Did you already come with a lot of, was he an authority on the subject matter coming in here? - I don't think he's much of a geek. I'm sure he knows the character from the movies and one out and from just popular mythology, but I don't think he's like a hardcore comic book geek and so it didn't take a whole lot of direction. I mean, the thing about Adam is we've worked with him in the past and he's, he really excels at playing kind of the heavy, like he did on Firefly, he's kind of the rough macho guy. He rarely gets to play the hero, but I knew, again just from working with him in the past, when you meet him in person, he's a really, really likable guy. So even though he does have that kind of tough exterior and he's got that really deep macho voice, he's just such a sweetheart that it's like, okay, that would work for Superman. I knew that he would be fine for Superman. So it wasn't a stretch, wants to get him in the studio to get the performance out of him. So in closing, you've done your animated film, we know your work in comics, TV, what would you ever leap into live action as a director or a writer? Somebody's got to ask me first. Yeah. Are you writing stories that can lend themselves to a live action audience or a live action format? Sure. But I mean, but they're being, it's complicated. That's a tricky question. It's a business question. It is. It's a business question. Sure. You're open. You're open to the idea. Sure. Harley Quinn, was she one of Eric's girlfriends? Not one of mine. Thank you so much. Sure. Thank you so much, Chris. So I promise for the rest of the show to get every name right. It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen. Thomas Jane. Adam Baldwin. Yeah. What's a good comic movie tie-in in the spotlight? I tried. I tried to get these things going. I mean, if we, if we didn't go like, if we didn't, if we re-shot, we'd be perfect. You know what I mean? If we had segments in like multiple cameras and I was like, let me try that again, V.J. And did it right now. Oh, it'd be fun. No, this is legit. This is sincere. People want to see you fuck up anyway. People want to see me fuck up. Yeah, exactly. I figure, hey, I am a fuck up being confused about being a fuck up. Can we talk video games? Oh, not me. I have Gilmore. No, you said me. You said being a geek is being out of fuck up anyway. Yes. Because it's not. But, can you name a good comic that came out of a movie? Can I name a good comic? I came out of a movie? Firefly stuff was awesome. Firefly stuff? Because it was written by the kind who wrote them anyway. Any horror movie? Any horror movie? Ones that were good. 9 or 13. I mean, do you ever recommend it? Did they? Yeah. Did they ever do comics? It's like, yeah, the Friday 13 is one of a solid comic. It's like this. It's like, why? I don't see why anyone ever bothers. Let's talk video games. Because we don't have a whole lot of video games to talk. And the Ninja Gaiden 2 is going to be an Xbox 360 exclusive. I heard the first one was hard as fuck. I heard it was impossible. Yeah. So there you got the second one. That's looking awesome. And speaking of digital blood, we were speaking about digital blood suppose it is an extremely bloody game. It's a very, beautifully bloody, too bad you can only get past, you can't get past five minutes of it. If it's anything like the first one, did you hear this rumor about Christian Bale playing Solid Snake? Oh, I did. I love it. I love it because it's great casting, but I'm done. Give me something. Give me someone else. Give me someone else. What do you think of this Christian Bale guy? Well, wasn't he just Batman? Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Why would he do another one? How would he do another one? That's a video game. It's not a comic book. Yeah. This is a video game. He's done his comic book. This is his video game. You know. What do you think of Christian Bale? Yeah, Christian Bale is the shit. I never really liked him until Batman, honestly. Have you seen equilibrium? Have you seen new seasons? Oh, you would like equilibrium? Did you see equilibrium? I've heard about it. Yeah, yeah. We shot the last show. Last show. I realized. They got on me because they haven't seen equilibrium. I watched it. It was good. Was it fun? Equilibrium is awesome. It's so much fun. Was that made for sci-fi channel? Or was it? No. Equilibrium came out. It was kind of the surge after these Matrix. They had the first Matrix. They started making movies like this, and this one has like a Gatica feel to it, but they release it in like February. It was during the fallout between Dimension Disney and the Weinstein Brothers, so it just kind of felt. It kind of got forgotten. In the movies, a lot of fun. They all more recommended it to me. My brother recommended it to me. I watched it. It's a lot of fun. We've been Netflixing all the stuff that like people in the forums tell me to watch. I bought that 20th anniversary Robocop. That's an awesome release. Oh, that finally came. Awesome release. Monster Squad was awesome. Holds up. It also has a lot of gags as horror movies should. I got to tell you though, last night, you want to talk emotional experiences? Last night, Laura and I on the couch, we were dog sitting, Hank and Chees were here. We had five dogs. We were on the couch with dogs everywhere. Bridge to Terabethia? Bridge to Terabethia, you would have thought we were watching Shiller's List, we were crying so bad. No, I don't want to see him sensitive, but that bridge to Terabethia, here's the thing. So when Laura starts crying, when Laura cries during a movie, I always go, you're going to cry, aren't you? And then it makes herself conscious and she kind of hides in just crying. Now she knows from me, I told her that as a kid the book cracked me because I was like, "Oh God." The book hurt. The book hurt. As a kid, that bridge to Terabethia had tucked everlasting were the two books that shook my world. Where the Redfern grows. Where the Redfern grows. Oh, the Eller, Hatchet, These old books wreck me. And so this movie, so this movie, Bridge to Terabethia, we're watching it, she knows from talking to me, you know, knowing me that girl dies to the end of the thing. That's not a spoiler. Get the hell out of here. The movie continues like another-- The movie goes for another 45 minutes long. The movie goes on a bit after she dies, but as, you know, as directors, you know, it's kind of the Walden Media Disney-ish movie, so as they're laying out there, the emotional manipulation that this girl's about to die, like, the longing looks-- The sound design. The violence. Lauren Lauren knows it's coming. She turns to me to kind of preempt me saying anything and she goes, "Is it okay if I cry?" There you go. "Is it okay if I do?" I said, "So I'm like, I'll be right there with you, baby." And so this sa-- no, no, please, don't move away from me. I look over and she's, like, welling up and there's just one shot that I was like, "Fuck it, I'm done. I'm crying. I'm crying. What was it? What was it? I think it was something with the father and the son, like-- And the Holy Ghost. It was like the culmination of that whole "My Dad Doesn't Like Me." Did you guys see-- Bro. Did you guys ever see-- I never saw-- Never saw-- No. That is a horror movie. I don't know. Okay. I have met so many-- like, guys, guys, you know, like my-- Like, a bunch of-- A bunch of random people. And it's so weird. I thought I was alone. I'm like, I'm a pussy. I'm a fucking-- Wait. 'Cause I, like, paused that movie to cry, like, I went. You actually paused the movie to cry. I can see how, like, the whole thing about, like, getting old and, like, missing, like, partially your life and so that dude. That's fucked up. Oh, that's fucked up. I don't think I've ever paused the movie to cry. And now I'm watching himself fuck up his love. No, that's, like, Tucker overlasting. Oh. That's the idea that you were going to outgrow all of your loved ones. Dude, put me in the ground and just suicide. Yeah. It's just messed up. That's messed up. Hatchet. It's just-- Oh, dude, that movie-- that book, I was at the Beverly Hills Library writing and they have a whole bin of, like, $1 books, you know, like, some of that. And I picked up that book, Hatchet, about that kid who goes down in, like, Alaska or, like, the wilderness. And all he has, like, a hatchet? Oh, man. That's her mom. That's her mom. That is a kick ass book. I would love to see that as a movie with Van Dam, like, fighting his way around. It's like, what? Steven Segal. Like, fighting his way out of the wilderness? Like, takes on, like, a wolverine-- There's a new Van Dam movie. There is a new Van Dam movie. Nope. What is this? No, I've seen Knockoff. Knockoff. Probably should be his son or something by now. The best-- The best straight to video Van Dam movie, I've got to tell you, is The Order, where he goes under cover as a Hasidic Jew in, like, oh, no way. Yeah. He's, like-- Hasidic Jew. Yeah, he covers old things. He has the curls and everything. He has the curls and the-- And the-- We're right in the midst of a very Jewish holiday. We've got Rah Hashanah, Yom Kippur, I've got to tell you guys, if you're feeling in the spirit, go get The Order, starring John Kopp Van Dam, where he actually got-- He gets in his-- Yeah, he goes to Jerusalem, and he goes like Jerusalem, and he does a little deal where he has to uncover sort of, like, a conspiracy of, like, the Knights Templar and some of that, dude. Which is all tied into Jewish-- Van Dam, of course. The Magic Crystal Kingdom. No. He's got this Crystal Cave, or what are the hell-- It's a skull. No. I apologize-- It's a skull. Sorry. I apologize at the end of the time, because this is out of nowhere. But since we brought you on as a horror connoisseur-- I thought it was a special guest. You were a special guest. You were a special guest. You were a special guest. Special guest. Special guest. Every guest. Yeah. You're like the horror, but you're, like, special because, like, this guy knows a lot about horror. Halloween. Halloween. Halloween is your favorite horror? Halloween is my favorite horror. And you like this Rob Zombie. I like the remake. You talked about it. I like the remake. Not the reimagining. Just the remake. You're the guy. You're that guy who likes it. You're that guy who likes it. I'm one of those two guys that like the remake. Wow. That's cool. You like the remake? That's what he just said, motherfucker. It was a remake? No, it's the same thing. Oh, okay. Because I thought maybe-- Because you know how there was a remake of the Shining? Why do I invite him? There was a remake. Did you like the remake of the Shining? Because T3 feel like together. They're all putting them on. They're all putting on misrepresenting my people. Do you want to conveyor belt? So before we talk about forums, our forums at geekscape.net/ forums, we've got a bunch of people listening best songs from the movie. What? You know, we've got a movie made for the movie. Like soundtrack songs. It was started by this dude, St. Mort, who's a big music fan there on the forums. He's also a big horror guy. Big horror guy. He listed the Rainbow Connection for the Muppet movie. That's a big horror guy. Like, no, you've got to list movies that were tied completely. We're like the top 40s. What's the top 10? Think about a song. When you hear a song, it immediately makes you think of a movie. Correct. He also listed "Stuck in the Middle" with you. Reservoir. Reservoir. Reservoir. I fell asleep watching Reservoir. There's a good scene. There's a good scene. Okay. Stuck in the middle with you. That scene in Reservoir is the scene in Reservoir. That's what Reservoir is. It's the one where they're walking, isn't it? Oh, yeah. But Stuck in the middle with you. But Stuck in the middle with you. That scene is huge. It even had that itchy scratchy. I'll let you borrow it. You'll let your borrow it. You'll let your borrow it. Okay. We've got this guy, Wookie wombat. He listed a couple. The main one is "The Touch." You got the touch. What movie is that from? You might say "Boogie Nights" but "Transformers" is the movie, baby. That's not how it goes at all. Oh, am I thinking the wrong one? That's a good one. There's a conversation going on. What's going on? The touch. You got the touch. You got the power. Yeah! Alright, that's enough. I'm sorry, I won't do that again. Jiminy Crickett, who's about 14 on the forum. We were all 14 once. We were all 14 once on the internet looking for newty pictures. When he was 14, we skipped 15. He put "The Scientist" by Coldplay, which is the song from Wicker Park. So he's the guy who saw Wicker Park. Oh, that's him. He's the guy who saw Wicker Park. That's him. I'm the director, thanks. Something from "The Invisible." Yeah, somebody was like, "Oh, that song from "The Invisible" was awesome. "The Invisible" was the one. "The Invisible" was the one. Yeah, these are all songs that are like on albums. What about one of those songs? And it's just like, that's where it's bought and put. Yeah, "Gloria of Love" from "Gloria Kid 2." What about "Gloria of Love"? The power of love. The power of love. Yeah. We've got this, we've got this, that's back then. The power of, send me an angel from Rad? Send me an angel from Rad? The fucking bigger next bike dance. Here's a good one. Earth angel from back to the other. Well, here's one. It's like, so good. It's like our good friend Sandstone, who's our resident tough guy on the forums. He puts. He's a puppy. No, he's a tough guy. He's a puppy. He's like 32. I don't know how old he is, but he was beat by God. Nice. He listed, "My heart will go on by sleeping beyond." But you see what I'm saying though. It's the Titanic song. Does he pause the movie "Tutacry"? I don't care. But what I'm saying is we hear the song you think of Titanic. That's what makes a good movie song. Yeah. And you hear the song you think of the movie. Captain Global, who's a good friend of ours, he's Scott from Robig Fish. He's on there, "You're the Best" by Joe Esposito. Fuck it yet. From "Crowdy Kid", "The Tournament". Remember when "Crowdy Kid" went against the tournament? You're the best. Around. No one's gonna have a take. You watch movies, right? Nothing's ever gone. I think I watched that once when I was like 12. But from a horror standpoint, what a huge part of the Halloween movie is that score by John Carpenter. Correct. That is a huge part. Yeah. And when you hear the song. But everything you've mentioned except for a couple of these were taken from albums that already existed and put on. Right. So the Halloween was actually made for all of them. Remember Brian Adams' song for Robin Hood? Yeah. Like, you think of the song and it's tied to the movie. I gotta tell you about this CD. I got sent this CD by Drive Through Records. Is that that old new? No, no, no, no. This is the new New Friends lore one. New fan glory did another punk covers. What the hell? I actually liked the first one. I did too when I was like 16. 14. 14. That's 14. I liked the first one because they're listing songs that you remember from movies. I did love full. What do they got on there? Like, I listened to the CD. The production value on the CD is pretty good. Okay. What do I got? But I feel like they picked songs that aren't necessarily tied to movies. The only one here that I feel like you think of a movie when you hear the song is Iris by the Googoo Dolls, which was in the City of Angels. And don't you forget about me, which has been covered by every band ever. What else we got? We got Kiss Me? What's Kiss Me? What's Kiss Me from? Oh, she's all that. Yeah, she's all that. Okay. I don't know what it ain't mean. The promise? The promise is from the Incredits to the Bulling Dynamite. That's all I know about. The King of Wishful Thinking. This is my favorite song on the CD. The King of Wishful Thinking. I don't know what that's from. What is that? I'll get over you. Oh, that's a pretty woman, isn't it? Oh, it's a pretty woman? I think it's a pretty woman. Okay. I don't know. What's next? Yeah, it is. I bet you. I bet you. I bet you. I bet you. I bet you. That's right. I bet that's from singles. What? Is it singles or is it? Yeah, there's singles. There's singles. There's singles. That's right. I bet you, which was from... Shit, that. How does Crazy Turn You Go? That I get a kick out of old people movie with Linda Fuhr Antino. How does it go? And what's the space? Matthew Modine. I like that you know these. It's Madonna. You're right. Game of Dawn. Oh, he was a wrestler. Matthew Modine was a wrestler and Linda Fuhr Antino was like, "Stay in there." Dream Quest. Dream Quest, yeah. And then head over heels. I don't remember what that's from. How does that go? I don't know. I listen to the CD. I think it's okay. Not great. But I think the problem is the song selection. If you're making a CD like this, you need to pick songs like... Maybe they didn't get the right version of Titanic. Like you're the best. What's the most cool from? I don't know. A Romeo and Juliet. Is it from Romeo and Juliet? Oh, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... Romeo plus Juliet. If you're a new fan, you're going to like the CD. I mean, if you like pop punk and new fan, you're going to like the CD. But... I'm just saying punk covers. I was not into it. I'm sick of punk covers. They kind of had their day. Like in '98. Yeah, but they're still... But it's still... I'd rather hear a punk cover of Love Fool that would kiss me than... Right. The good one... The good one's on there. The regular. The good one's on here with a king of wishful thinking. The Lisa Loeb cover. If you like the song, you're going to like this one because Lisa Loeb actually does a duet with Jordan from New York. Oh, that's wonderful. That's like Sharon here to turn on that 40-year-old girl. I have yet to hear the "Don't You Forget About Me" just because that song's been done to death. Oh, true. What's this one? That one's a... The French title one is a... Run the Laurent. No, it's a... It's a instrumental. So there's no singing on it. But they have it? Okay, so it's music and I see. So this CD came out today on the Tuesday of the release of this episode. You guys can pick it up. And then that's our episode. Ruben, what do you think about being on Geekshape? We talked geek. We talked a little bit about... It was wonderful. Yeah, my love life and my problems and concerns. November 19th. November 19th. November 19th. Can we come with you to the airport to videotape this guy coming up? I'll pick it back to you on that. Alright. I know you're going to be working out like more than you usually do. You're going to be working out first. Ruben, worst case scenario though, you have to come back on the show and let us know. Maybe with him. You got to come on the show and let us know what... Can I be on the show and like he can sit there and I can sit there and we can be the voices in the background? So you bickering lovers? Yeah. No, the fuck that. We get panned on every once in a while. Look at you. You panned over there just fucking on the side gate. We're like, what the hell? There's two gay guys. It's gay sex. It's gay sex. [laughter] Gay-scape. Gay-scape. As if it's not that already. It's been that for 40 episodes. Alright. We got a Myspace. That is gay-scape. We have our Myspace at Myspace.com/GeekscapeNet. Go to geekscape.net. Check out the forums. Buy a t-shirt from our merch store. We've got t-shirts, tell bags. Pins come free with every order. We've got a Facebook group. 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