Geekscape

Geekscape 36: We Got Some

Guest Co-host: Videogame expert and insider Justin Leeper! - Reviews: Right at Your Door and Death at a Funeral! Interviews! The Dan Fogler and Robert Ben Garant from Balls of Fury! A very special 'Scapist gives his take on the Dark Knight panel footage from Wizard World Chicago! News: Dr. Strange headed to the big screen! Comics: Jonathan and Gilmore go to war over World War Hulk! Video Games: The BioShock demo! Picross DS! November 12th is coming! Metroid Prime 3 talk! KOTR! Jonathan has a plan for mass genocide and Justin... well, he tells one of the best stories a guest host has told... ever! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 21 Aug 2007
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Terms and conditions apply. LinkedIn, the place to be, to be. I'm Dan Fogler and you're watching Kickscape. ♪♪ ♪ Come and explore this ♪ ♪ Read a picture that we're going to ♪ ♪ Read it, read it, read it ♪ ♪ For us, hear what I think ♪ ♪ Listen to the Kickscape ♪ ♪ Read the world behind ♪ ♪ All your friends are waiting ♪ ♪ Whoa ♪ ♪ Whoa ♪ ♪ Let's go ♪ ♪ All these joys in the show ♪ ♪ Awesome ♪ Hey guys, welcome to episode 36 of Geekscape. I'm here with my good friend, Justin Leiber. Justin's got all sorts of geek credentials. He was an editor for Game Informer for a couple years. Yep. Currently, I met Justin last week. I went up to THQ like I told you guys. And Justin and I had a lunch and you pretty much talked more video games in that hour of lunch than we've had in the last 35, 36 episodes of the show. You poor bastards. I know, I know. My audience has starred from video games, which is why I recruited you to come in here and talk on this episode. If you're new to Geekscape, over the next hour, we're going to be talking movies, video games, and comics. I could start it up with, what are you talking about? Gilmore is up there, now Gilmore is directing the episode and he's doing this. Look like YMCA at me. I thought he was like, you need to adjust your bra. What are you doing? It's obviously that last, you know, last episode they said that my energy was down. So, I've got a rock star. We worked out signs. That's what this means. Oh yeah, yeah. I think your energy is down if you can't open the thing. He just forgot that shit. I have no fingernails, here we go. I have a bunch of signals that I usually do. Brian has like a bunch of signals, none of which are like industry standard, they're all Gilmore standard. So, I have to sit here with Helen Keller trying to guess what the fuck he's doing. Yeah. Go. Go? As in do the show? Yeah, I kind of know that. Cock mouth. [LAUGHTER] OK. So, we've got some reviews. Brian, you're going to do a review of Walking Heart, right? OK. Is that cool? I mean, I could. I went to one of those ones where you're basically not supposed to go with your press of any kind. Oh, you're not supposed to do a review of Walking Heart. Yeah, you're not supposed to do anything. OK. Like, why sign to think? I don't have to, I've got two movies. I wasn't even part of the focus group. Oh yeah, you set that out. When does the movie only? Yeah, it's still in post production. OK. That's the John C. Riley-- Judd Apatow. Judd Apatow produced it-- co-wrote it and produced it. And Jenna Fisher is starring in it with John C. Riley. And it's basically a big-- John C. Riley. John C. Riley. It's like a parody of like-- It's like a parody of Walk the Line. Walk the Line. Just Walk the Line. OK. It's like, is that weird? Yeah. It's like, it's a parody of this one movie. OK. So when that comes out, we'll have a real review of it. The trailer leaked. So it looks funny. OK. I went to see two movies that are opening this weekend. Two indies, one was called Right at Your Door. Have you heard of this movie? I started seeing posters all over LA. This is a movie where dirty bombs go off in Los Angeles. And it's not one of these post-apocalyptic on a big scale movies. This is like a really micro-scale. It was one best cinematography at Sundance a couple years ago. And it's a movie. It's got Rory Cochran in it and Mary McCormick. And they're a couple. Newly married, it starts out really normal. And it's shot in a very documentary, very taste-style. You're there. It's very realistic. They live in Silver Lake. This is a Los Angeles that you know. It's not luxurious or glamorized in any way. And she heads off to work. While she goes downtown, you find out that dirty bombs have been detonated by LAX, Beverly Hills, and downtown. Now what are dirty bombs? A dirty bomb is like a terrorist blows up a bomb and it's got, like, toxins in it. It's got, like, anthrax or this and that. But you don't know what's in it. You know, they pack it full of, it's like a terrorist term. It's like a war on terror type term. So it's a little bit of sci-fi that, you know, somebody detonates these dirty bombs in downtown LA. It's like a, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's not sci-fi like they're fucking... I mean, you saw, I didn't see it, but it's not sci-fi. Right. I mean, doesn't it just seem like a... Would you call it die-hard sci-fi? No, you know what you're right. I would say it's a... You know why I say it's sci-fi, I'll say this right now to the geekscapists? Because it has this feel of a real world, but a very Orwellian reaction to what happens. Immediately, the main character has to, you know, who's kind of like a stay-at-home musician boyfriend while she's off working and being the breadwinner and he's staying at home. All of a sudden there's ash everywhere. He doesn't know what to do. He runs to a hardware store. He starts taking all these supplies, hoping that she comes home. By the time she comes home, he's been told to seal off all the exits. He can't even let her back in the house because there's ash everywhere and anybody who's been outside is probably infected. And so he basically has to stay in this house for 28... 24 or 48 hours waiting for a very small amount of information that's leaking through. Some of it's not even correct. Who's in this? Mary McCormick's his wife, Rory Cochran. That's a Brady chick. That McCormick. Mary McCormick was Howard Stern's wife in private parts. And yeah, he basically has to like watch her start falling ill and he can't let her in the house and it's a pretty nerve-wracking movie, you know, and they shot it in a really realistic style. It reminded me of when I lived in New York and 9/11 happened. I immediately started sharpening a broomstick and being like, "Dude, shiv it up, fuck it." If I see, if I start seeing people coming down in parachute, so I'm just going to come out there at Wolverine's style and you know, Red Dawn style just like Swayze taught me and just start laying people in fucking body bags. I would have gotten like two feet up the door if I got shot at it. But yeah, this movie is stressful. It has a great ending. If you guys, it's an indie, so it may not open where you guys live, but if it opens, especially if you're a film student, definitely go see this movie because it's very economic. It has one location. It reminded me of Bug, that movie that came out, William Freakin, came out earlier this year, except it succeeds where Bug fails. Was this a play? Because Bug was a play. I know Bug was a play and it was a minimal cast in like a very small, you know, one location like this, but this feels like a movie. It works like a movie. I think Bug failed because the threat was these microscopic insects. You never saw them. This is very visual. You can see ash everywhere. It looks like LA post terrorist attack. It's awesome. The other movie I saw was another independent, but this one's from Frank Oz. The dude who played fuckin' Yoda and Fazzy of the Bear. Let's not forget the cop and blues brothers. Yeah, he's the prison guy. He's the prison cop and blues brothers. He directed a movie called "Death of the Funeral" and it's a British movie. Is he British? No. He's not British, but he did this very British movie about a family whose father has died and all the friends and relatives come in. It's an ensemble cast. It's got Alan Tadek. Tadek. Tudek. Tudek. The dude who played wash and firefly. I think it's Tudek. Tudek. I think it's Tudek. He's funny as Halley plays the pirate and dodge ball. He's in it. Peter Dinklage, the dwarf actor, is in it, who I just saw in Underdog a couple days earlier. You saw Underdog. Hell yeah, I saw Underdog. What you gonna make of it? What the hell? I saw Underdog. Dude, talking animals are gonna be there. Did you review Underdog? I didn't review Underdog because I didn't really enjoy it. The best part of Underdog is that it kind of parodies the superhero movies that come out. It does scenes from Superman, the first Superman Donner one. It does like a scene where Spidey has to save Aunt May when she's hanging in Doc Ockes. They kind of parody these scenes with Underdog, but it's a pretty bad movie. And Peter Dinklage is a really good actor. He was in the station agent. Remember that movie? It was an independent film. He's in this one, and basically anybody who comes to this funeral has their own pressures and their own agendas, and I think it's a really, really damn good ensemble comedy. If you guys have a date or something, it's not a bad choice, so don't be expecting die hard. Don't be expecting three weddings in a funeral. It's pretty much just a straightforward, and this one does feel like a play. The dialogue does feel very theatrical, but it's done really well. Alan Tuddak, dude, we all love him because he was a knocked up in Firefly. He kicks a lot of ass. He's really fucking funny in this. There's one moment in the movie where I was cringing, laughing. I would spoil it, but I would spoil it if I talked about it, but it's pretty fucking funny. I saw commercials that really didn't look that funny. Really, like, contrived, overdoing the Britishness of it, I guess. Everybody's basically British in the movie, except Alan-- But that kind of ride jokes that only British people think are funny. You have to drink a lot of tea and have bad teeth. No shit. Like dark shadows. Who fucking watches dark shadows? Everybody's like faulty towers. Come on. Who watches that shit? Really. Last week, we had interviews with-- or maybe the week before we had interviews with them. You interviewed them. I interviewed. Edgar Wright. I'm not Simon Pegg. Whatever. Uh oh. Yeah. Well, I wasn't there. I didn't call it to his face. I was introducing the segment. I'm the one who got the name wrong. Yeah. I feel like-- I mean, I like those movies. I like the Edgar Wright movies. Do you like those? Damn right. But did you feel like Hot Fuzz was a little long? No. No fucking way. Hot Fuzz was three quarters of great, and then one quarter of fucking awesome. Can you say fucking on your phone? Absolutely. Internet. You can make it. I did. No. Microphone. Microphone. Oh, you can take over pants. Yeah, I felt like Hot Fuzz was a really awesome movie, and then you got to the point where the main character discovered the mystery. And I think that once you discover who the bad guys are, it's time to put them away, and you only have about 15, 20 minutes to do that in a film. And it goes long. I felt like there was like 30 minutes. I felt like that movie was like 10, 15 minutes too long. No way. No way. I thought I found those too long. What scenes would you have cut? The end chase. The end chase and in the scene in the plaza at the end where there's all those action sequences against the old people, I thought that was really funny, but it's a joke once or twice. It's not a joke with five different times. So you've taken out the best parts of the movie? Yeah, the best parts of the movie if you're all four. I mean, guys, there's a reason that Hot Fuzz made the money it did, and fucking die hard made the money it did. Well, yeah, because it's huge stars and it was a domestic movie. But you've got Edgar Wright, who's a writer/director, but then you've got these committees who make movies like Die Hard. You know what I mean? And the committees are going to cut the movie down. And when you cut a movie down like that, even though you guys are right there being like, "Oh, that's bullshit. You're hurting an artist's vision." When you're cutting a movie down like that, what you're also doing is making sure that people in Montana go to see it, people in Ohio go to see it. And ultimately, it's more of a three act film. I felt like Hot Fuzz had four acts. Charlotte Dad, I think, is a much better movie. If there's movies that you're going to complain about being too long, though, there are so many more that you could find on top of. I got you there, too. So many movies are way too long. Pirates of the Caribbean is way too long. King Kong, way too long, Lord of the Rings, way too long, in my opinion. Yeah. King Kong was like 2 1/2 hours. And they didn't show how you got on the fucking boat. And I'm not saying at all that I hate these movies. I'm not saying at all that I hate these movies. What I'm saying is, and I think the way to defend a movie like King Kong because I really loved King Kong was, and you didn't like it, but the way I defend King Kong is, "Okay, go see a fucking girl if fight a giant throwing a sword and strikes anywhere else." Good luck with that. You know what I mean? Like, Pirates of the Caribbean. But then two of them. Go see Vines. I'm down with that. Oh, yeah. Dude, you're an ex-restler. Right. You didn't have to do that, shit. Yes. You're an ex-restler? Well, I'm a stunt guy now, too. This dude's a stunt guy now. What? Has he? He's going to pop your head like a grape. What do you mean it? I'm going to be in a history channel documentary where I'm an assistant stunt coordinator. He also tells you how to do these things safely. Yeah, I'm an assistant instructor at a stunt class every Sunday night. We're going to do, actually this weekend, we're doing something for the Assassin's Creed video game based film contest, which we just found out about last week. It's the most vague thing you've ever said. It's like, you know, Assassin's Creed the game, you know, it comes from November 12th, baby. We're going to talk about November 12th because it's like the most packed or at least date in video game history. But they're doing, I think, IFC or something is doing some of the contests where if you put together a six minute or less video about Assassin's Creed, there's a $10,000 prize for the best sport. You're going to do it? Yeah, my class is putting together one. We just found out about it Sunday. You guys got some monks and shit like that. Yeah, we got, I'm the assassin, dude. You're looking at them. Oh, that'll be cool. We've got to see that video. If that's going to be like up on the website somewhere, we can vote for it. Can we vote for it? I don't know. If we can vote for it, we're going to take our little army over there. We're going to vote for you, Justin. And you can look up Justin Leaper on YouTube and you'll see me wrestling, you'll see me doing Hong Kong stuff, twees, well, threes. L-E-E-P-E-R. Yeah. Now, have you ever wrestled an animal? No. Like, see, that's the YouTube I want to see. Like I can see you fucking jumping on shit and jumping on trampolines and stuff, and that's fine. Trampolines. I don't know. I'm not a big yard wrestler. I don't know. I don't know. How'd your brother start? He was an indie wrestler. I was an indie wrestler. I'm a backyard wrestler. Not a midget wrestler. I don't know. It's all man grabbing at me. I don't do it. But now listen to Guy versus an animal, I'll watch that. Like, you know, Justin, you know, jumping off a building or doing a stunt, going through a window. That's all fine and good and everything. I want to see you fight like a cheetah. What if I lose? That would, I would be, you know, disappointed all of mankind. You would have to cheer for me, right? You wouldn't cheer for like the monkey or the, you know, the ostrich or something. I think most people would cheer for the ostrich. That's sad. What? That's sad. I would cry. I thought we were overpopulated. I would cry. More people should be stuntmen. Yeah, because I have a great time getting work as is, man. I need to hand some of that off. Justin, when I went to school in New York, I would see these kids playing baseball and shit in the middle of the street and cars narrowly hitting them. You know what I mean? You see people doing stupid shit. And I devised a rule that I think will help mankind. And it's that as the age of 12, you can't correct someone doing really stupid things. Not only that, it's your job to encourage it. You know what I mean? You'd be like, "Hey, you know, it's really raining out there, mom. I think I'm going to go out and play baseball." I was like, "Okay, we'll take this giant lightning rod with you." You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You've got to do things for the sake of the gene pool. And I'm not saying Nazi bullshit. It's not like take just the white people or take just the black people. Just take the dumb people. You know? Do somebody, you know, it's like you see that in LA, people who don't use the crosswalks across the street and everybody's got to wait for them. Let's make it waffle to hit those people. Not only that, it is your citizen's duty to hit those people. We don't want them populating. Come on. What do you think? Implied idiot genocide. Idiot genocide. Okay. I would actually for it. Your for it? I would actually go for it and say that's not about it. When you think that in like the next 40, 50 years, parents can tell whether or not their kids are going to have Down syndrome or deficiencies or disabilities or that and they can eliminate the early pregnancy, there aren't going to be anybody with Down syndrome or disabilities and somebody that being born. So we're already kind of taking care of that. Now let's just take care of dumb motherfuckers. What about when the shoe's on the other foot though because everybody's the asshole sometimes. You know what? It's okay. Like, you know, that's what she wrote, you know? That's what needed to happen. If I'm a lesson, hey, someone else just got smarter seeing me get thrown across the traffic, you know, or fall off a building. Someone saw that and goes, you know what? I'm not going to do what he just did. And when I'm, you know, getting set upstairs, I'll be like, now you know, knowing it's half the battle. Oh yeah, I'm dead. That's always that. That's just my idea. I don't know. The Geekscape derails every now and then. Okay. Quite a bit. Sweet. More like every-- Every episode. It's kind of like this back and forth. We talk about the experience of getting Geeks. It's not just about the things that we love, it's about the love, about the community. The one love. There's one love. Can you get it and be alright? You know, you know what I was feeling when I was in San Diego? We interviewed Dan Fogler, the star of Balls of Fury and the director Ben Garant. You guys know him from like Reno 9-1-1. They're a cool Wii game coming out too, don't they? Balls of Fury has a cool Wii game? I believe it. It's like, they do. It's like a-- It's like a-- It's like Wii Tennis, ping pong. It's perfect for it. That's a great idea. I kind of want to get it. I love those games. I'm going to cut to this clip though. It's me in San Diego interviewing Dan Fogler. He's in that movie. He's in Good Luck Chuck. He's in Fan Boys coming out in February. We talk a little bit about Balls of Fury working with Christopher Walken and whether or not he can beat the retard in Horace Gump. That's Horace Gump. Hey, Geeks Capus. I'm here with Dan Fogler. He's in this new movie, Balls of Fury, right? I hit the word Balls and I just derail. There it is. Balls of Fury. Did it happen on the set? You hit the balls and you just derail. Yeah, dude. The balls everywhere on that set. I got used to the concept of the word Balls. Once I started doing the Wii. Right. I was like, whoa, Balls of Fury, what kind of movie is this? And then I was like playing Randy Daytona. Wait a minute. Is this a porno? Now, this is a documentary on the underworld of illegal ping pong tournaments, right? Is it a documentary? It could be. It could very easily be. Christopher Guest style. Yeah, man. It's a, yeah, I mean, it's like, I would say it's like karate kid. Bloodsport. Bloodsport. Enter the dragon. But instead of karate. It's ping pong. Now, uh, I don't even know where you're going because you see the trailer. Yeah. And you're like, oh, dude, I'm totally going to see this movie. And then when you see walk and walk out, you're like, I'm going to see this movie for a different reason than I thought I was going to see this movie. I thought I was just going to see this movie because it was a Kung Fu movie, but then you see what it's about. Yeah. You're really going to get to see this movie. Yeah. Yeah. Balls flying at your face. I can stop. I mean, I don't know. I mean, it depends on what kind of balls you're talking about, buddy. It really does. In the instance, it depends on what kind of balls you're talking about. You're training regimen. What did it consist of? I trained with Olympic gold medalists. What? Yeah, dude. Really? Yeah. Hardcore ping pong champions. And we went through, uh, I mean, if you look at the movie, they might tell you that 90% of it is CGI, but, uh, I'd say about 90% of my ping pong play was totally real. And the other 10% was spiritual. The other 10% was moxie and just pure from the Elvis. Now, do you think you could be the retarded guy in Forrest Gump? Do you want me to be the retarded guy for Forrest Gump right now? Are you asking? Do you mean Forrest Gump? Oh, that's Forrest Gump. Could you beat him? Oh, can I beat him? Yeah. Yeah. Easily. Wipe the floor at that. The hardest part of making a movie like this. The hardest part of making a movie like this? Yeah. This one. You got all these competitors, all these egos on set trying to beat you every day. I'd say just like, just like, you know, just staying humble, keeping it real. Right. Keeping it in your pants. One game at a time. One day at a time. That's good. That's good. Thank you so much, Dan. Yeah. Thank you. Daniel. Dan's fine. Okay. Thank you. Good luck to the rest of the movies. Are you coming on to me? Not yet. All right. Maybe later. Cut. Cut. What's up, guys? We're here with another Ben. Robert Ben Grant. Oh, he's a fury. Here. We've been a fan of yours since the state. Okay. Just finally coming on on DVD. So my guess is that you're all recreational marijuana users. Actually, no. No. The guy in the back. The guy in the back is giving us those. Really? We're both. We're both. But come on. We've got a lot of crossover. We don't get a lot of straight out state fans. Really? Yeah. Well, maybe they're quiet. Okay. Maybe it's mostly guys who wreak at the chronic and, you know, but good. Wow. Absolutely. Not high. Yeah. The state is funny. Not high. Absolutely. Wow. Okay. The state comes out on DVD, actually. When? October 20th. Finally. Finally, finally, finally. It took a long time because we didn't have rights to any of the music. The breeders and the linear crowd, that's and stuff. So we had to re-score everything. It's every single sketch we ever did, audio commentary on every episode. We don't see a dime from it. Like MTV owns it. Lock, stock, and barrel. But it's all coming out. It's the first time I'd seen it in years was when we were doing the commentary. So it's, you know? Was it like home videos? Some of it holds up very well. Some of it, not so much. And like, some of it, I didn't even remember doing, you know. So, you know, you're like, "Oh, okay. Wow." Baker. We're not even going to ask to say you were in when you did that. Yeah. Yeah. But you have a new project now. The Balls of Fury. Balls of Fury. Balls of Fury. Very big movie. It stars Mr. Christopher Walken. Of course. James Diller. Raised in China and a ping pong fanatic. And one of his evil henchmen is Mr. Tom Lennon, Deputy Dangle, who plays Karl Woofstag, who is kind of our, our Drago character, kind of our evil, I will crush you American East German ping pong player. But it's got, like, Keri Tagawa, James Hong, Maggie Q, it's, it's the cast that came out for this. It's unbelievably great. For a romantic, wire-food ping pong comedy, it's not bad. It's pretty cool. And the fun thing is that you guys bring the comedy Cred, which, you know... Yeah. It's, it's pretty great. Like, well, Walken really loved the script, and I guess he was very familiar with Reno 9-1-1. And so he wanted to work with us and wanted to do it. And when he showed up, suddenly, you know, people came out of the woodwork to do this movie. It's got some state guys in it. It's got, like, 20 of our Reno 9-1-1 regulars, and it's, it's great. It's hilarious, too. Oh, thanks. Dude, the rock walking into that tunnel. Unbelievable. Great. Right? I, I laugh for a solid five minutes. Nice guy in the world. Nice guy in the world. Like, like the totally down-to-earth, totally mellow. Your brother's a WWE wrestler? Oh, really? I bet the rock, yeah. Very nice guy. Nice guy. He drove himself to the set, like, charming, like, pitch just jokes, like, really cool. Very nice guy. Yeah. But this one, what, what's that conversation even like? Well, fear it. You have to call him. Okay. Well, he's a highly answering machine. And so you have to say, hi, this is Robert Ben Garan, Balls of Fury. I don't know if you're there, but if you're there, pick up, pick up. Oh, hi. And, and he tells you that he loves the script. The one stipulation in doing the movie was that we not change a word in the script. Wow. Because he memorized it three months in advance. He came the very first day on set, brought us into the trailer, and did the whole movie for us. Meantom sat there, and he did every single line. Okie dokie, out of chokie, and he did the whole thing. And then he said, like, well, you know, big enough, am I doing the same movie? Everybody else is doing. More bush belt. You want me to be gay, you know, and, and we gave him notes. And then he showed up on set, there's one on the set, nailed it every day. Unbelievable. No. You're all in the movie, you wrote it, but you also direct it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was this a new project for you? Was that the new kill for you? You also shoot a lot of the Arena 9 line stuff. I have Tom and I split the show, who directs which episode, and then I directed the movie. Right. You know, this was a, you know, a big, you know, much more challenging and had people we hadn't worked with before. Many of them had Tony Awards and he had a piece of awards. Tons of CGI, like, seven months of CGI on the ping pong stuff. Not according to Mr. Fugler. Right. Right. I won't, I won't contradict him. Dan's ping pong, all Dan. He said he could feed me. Everybody else's with CGI. He said he could be a Forrest Gump. Everybody else with CGI. And Forrest Gump was also CGI. We also worked with the same trainer Forrest Gump did, Wei Wang, who bronze for the Chinese in '92. No bullshit. Like, but yeah, it was really challenging and like, it was great. We brought all of our Reno buddies on to kind of, you know, the David Keckner's and like, Patton Oswalt's of the world, who we knew were going to come in and be blithering idiots and we could just kind of play. Paul Rat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, and then we had to work with all of these real kung fu movie guys like Carrie Tagawa and Jason Scott Lee and like, like the real deal. So it was, it was a lot of fun. It was like two worlds finally meeting and they blend nicely. Yeah. They had a lot of fun together. Yeah. It was, it was pretty, pretty cool. We're excited for the movie. It's a good movie. It's, it's blithering idiocy and, and great. And it's got a lot of very, very funny people in it being very funny. Well, Ben, thanks so much. Good luck with the movie. Yeah, very nice to meet you. So that was Balls of Fury. It's coming out this Friday in theaters nationwide. What are you laughing at, Chuckle Bitch? The retard that's cur, that Forrest Gump in Forrest Gump that is Forrest Gump. That was funny. Keep going. You're very vocal for somebody behind the camera today. I can understand you being this vocal when you're like sitting on the side and like, you're in the whack pack. But right now you kind of have to do things. Keep talking to me. I'm encouraging it. Just stop. Can you put a mask over your head? Like a jacket. That's not a mask. Yeah. What kind of mask? That's not a mask already. Yeah. That's not a mask. His chocolate suit? No, that's not a mask. Don't you think it looks like chocolate for the lay out of the lost? Fuck you. No comment. I'm going to find you a chocolate suit. Fuck you. I'm going to find you a chocolate suit. You're going to flash that on the suit. I'm going to find you. If you did have goat legs. I'm going to fuck you up after this. Oh, okay. I'm going to fuck you. With your magic cane. My magic. Get out of here, Mr. Tumnus. That's a good call. Making friends. Are we in any comic books? I don't. A lot of comic book news now because we talk about the strike that's going to happen in Hollywood. Everybody's afraid of it. It may not even happen. They're pushing a lot of movies forward, pre-strike, like Thor. Yeah. Triple H. Triple H? Triple H? Yeah, I heard he's very good at that. I saw him in Blade 3. That was Blade Trinity, actually, the whole name. Yeah. I think needed a formal name. You know what? I needed a formal script. That was a really, that was a really bad movie. I wouldn't watch the third one after this. The second one was so bad. It was one that was almost walker. I was like, yeah. It was almost walker. That's like moves in it, baby. It was just so unbalanced. For a while, the Renegade vampires are kicking ass and then they get their asses kicked. They lose power, gain power. There's no balance. Oh, it gets worse with Blade Trinity where they're like, oh my god, Dracula's come back to life. We're doomed. And then Dracula runs away the first time you see him. And not only that, he runs away in the middle of the sunlight. He's running around downtown, wherever, generic European city they live in. What city is that? Where like fucking underworld takes place in like the Blade movies. What generic European city is that? Is that just some made up crap? You know what I'm talking about? That fictitious movie city? Where everybody has a dance club? They were like, oh, like, triple X, you know? Hey, let's hang out in this made up city. Speaking of dance clubs, best scene in Blade was the wrapping Japanese school girls. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. And I looked everywhere to find a clip of that and I guess it was just specific for that scene. Yeah. Yeah. Just sad. I want hardcore wrapping Japanese school girls. Gilmore just went to Japan. It's all talking so much. I haven't talked to you anymore. Yeah. We haven't talked in a long time. Did you bring me anything from Japan, bitch? I did. Let me see what you brought me. Was that a bitch? Yeah, that's right. Was that a bitch? That's right. You're going to slap later. Are you going to slap me? Yeah. Do you learn that? I'm sorry, man. I don't mean you're a bitch. I mean, what is this? This is a little... What is this? This is a little... I love you from Japan. So you go, you know... It even says that. It says headband. It's headband, on it. What does this say? Dumb white man headband. Yeah. Boris white man. You go out. I'm just trying to kick ass, dude. You were in the airport and you're like, "Oh, fuck. I've got to find something." No, actually, I thought of you when I saw it, so I got it. It seemed like something white guys were to try and look like they can kick some of that. Well, Justin can kick ass. I can't do anything. I want to hang out with Justin. I can pick fights and Justin can finish him. Sweet. It wouldn't be the first one. Really? This guy, when I used to live in QS, I lived in a trailer. I was like 18, 19, and this other guy was living with his dad. He was like 35. We'll go out and get drunk on rum and coke every night. And he would actually have bar fights and try and give the same guy a stone cold stunner. He'd give him a stone cold stunner and then came and told me about it, bragging. And then he tried it the next night on the same guy and it didn't work, so he wanted me to go kick the guy's ass. That's how it did. You look great. You're watching my fucking laundry in a river? Let me tighten that up before I hit it. It already looks like he's going to explode. It is stretching my eyes back. I now realize that they make good fabric in Japan. This is like trying to make you look less Asian. It's making me look Asian. It's just stretching my head back. Here we go. Okay. Why don't you bring me back like a bride or something? Or a KitKat. They have a weird KitKat. Oh yeah. Don't they have like banana KitKat? Pineapple KitKat. Crazy KitKat flavors? Yeah. Green tea. I took a video of me trying to eat something. You took, yeah. Eat them all yourself. You fat bad. It was so good. You sort of brought me a KitKat. I brought a KitKat, a green tea KitKat for a friend of mine and kept it for a year in my fridge because I never got to see him either than San Francisco. I finally gave it to him. Oh yeah. I would have eaten that. Was it good? Those things? Yeah. You don't need that shit. Yeah. We lost almost ten pounds. My friends. Yeah. I don't want to derail you. Oh. That's not on the show. So we're talking about these movies. Dr. Strange. I guess Marvel wants to make a Dr. Strange film. Dude. That's the character I don't agree with and, but DC is doing the Dark Knight. You know this big Warner Brothers movie, The Dark Knight has filming in Chicago, sequel to Batman Begins. You know about this, right? You know about this big movie? Of course. These were on the fucking inside and we've got Snoopers everywhere. We got De-Scapis all over the world looking for news for us. Our good friend Tyler. Tyler Slaton. Hey buddy. How you doing? Very little De-Scapis. He was in Chicago at the Wizard World Chicago and he actually got to see some of the footage. Yeah. They had this big panel and all the stars were there and they showed some of the footage and they gave everybody a free t-shirt. Gilmore's going nuts right now. I can tell you guys about it. But I think it's better if Tyler does. We're going to cut to my buddy Tyler in Chicago telling us all about the Dark Knight panel at Wizard World Chicago World Jealous Buddy. Go for it. Greetings from the Windy City fellow Geek Scapis. Tyler here to give you my report from the super secret Dark Knight panel that took place at Wizard World Chicago this past weekend. So here we go. Friday night the con at the DC panel, Dandadio announces that if you show up to the DC booth 10 a.m. the next morning, you're going to get a wristband. It's going to get you into a panel for a movie sequel shot locally here in Chicago that features a DC character. What else could it be but the Dark Knight? So I show up right near the next day and get in a line that is already over 700 people deep to get my wristband. I get to the front line. I get my wristband. I get this awesome t-shirt and I get a list of instructions that says the panel will be at 6 p.m. that night, wear the t-shirt to it, and there are absolutely no electronic devices allowed in there. No cell phones, no cameras, no computers, no PSPs, nothing. So after a long day at the con, 6 o'clock finally rolls around in me and over a thousand other people file into this hall with their own lapel. After a while, it's really hot in there. I'm covered in a nerd sweat that isn't entirely my own. Everyone is getting very anxious. The editor-in-chief of Wizard Magazine comes out. I don't remember his name but who cares. And he introduces Paul Levitz, the president and publisher of DC Comics. Paul Levitz comes out and says, "Listen guys, this is the panel that needs no introduction, so I'm not going to do one." It proceeds to bring out David Goyer, the writer of the Dark Knight, Jonah Nolan, Christopher Nolan's brother, who also co-wrote the Dark Knight, Gary Oldman, who I never thought would be there in a million years and was an awesome when he came out, Aaron Eckhart, who is two-face, Harvey Denton, new movie, as you know, Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan. And needless to say, at this point, the crowd is going absolutely crazy. But after a while, we all quiet down and they say that we're going to start a Q&A, so a bunch of people get in line, but me, I hesitate and I'm like, "I need to go up there, but I can't think of a question." Finally, I think of one, and I get in line. Unfortunately, the panel is kind of lame, like the questions that were asked were pretty stupid, but one of them among them was, "Hey, Christopher Nolan, what casting agency do you use?" It's pretty stupid, and unfortunately, the casting crew was being very vague. The only bullet points I could really take away from it was that Christian Bale is very quiet. Heath Ledger is awesome as the Joker. The cast and crew love the city of Chicago, and that the movie is going to kick ass. So after a while, there are about eight people in front of me to the microphone to ask questions. Paul Letting's cuts off the line. I'm a little upset, but I say, "Fuck it." I'm going—I'm taking a long way back to my seat, so I start walking towards the stage. Luckily, my seat's to the right, so it takes me not six feet in front of Christian Bale, Aaron Eckhart, and Gary Oldman, and as I walk by, I give him a few guys, and I got a little smile on a nod from each of them. Needless to say, I was getting as a school girl getting back to my seat. So Paul Letting gets back on the mic and says, "Okay, listen, we've got two more surprises for you. One, you're going to get now, one, you're going to get on your way out." So he says, "Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to show you some footage that we shot entirely in Chicago, and they proceed—let's go down, they proceed to show this, all the footage that they shot in Chicago cut into this kind of pseudo-trailer." So let me tell you, it's awesome. Lots of action, lots of shots of the Joker who looks incredible. That's like the whole cast, you see Maggie Gyllenhaal in there. Very little dialogue in it, unfortunately. They show a really, really cool shot that I hope they don't mess with in CG of Batman perched on this building, overlooking what is obviously the city of Chicago, and I really hope they don't change it, because being a Batman fan from Chicago, it's incredible. But the money shot, the pretty much what made everything worth it, was at the end of the trailer, there's a guy sitting in a desk in an office, and the camera is kind of panning around to reveal someone sitting in a chair in front of him, and the way they shoot it, you just barely see like it's cheek and like the back of his neck, and they're all scarred up. And the guy at the desk says, "Jesus, Harvey, we all thought you were dead." And you see the figure, the scarred up figure, raise a glass, take a sip of it, and then you go. Then he says, "Half." Trailer cuts, title comes up, crowd goes absolutely age shit. It was amazing. So finally, the cast and crew wave goodbye, and we all start filing out of this room, and the staff there has these UV lights, and on the way out the door, they're shining on everybody, and it's better if I just show you. Keep in mind, this shirt I've been wearing all day at this con, so excuse me while I set the mood, but the lights ain't in order for me to show you this. Yeah, so probably the greatest geek experience of my life. Wish you all could be there, glad you were all jealous that I was there. Really glad I could give this report, I want to thank you Jonathan, keep up the great work, and now back to geek's game. Hey, good job, Tyler, I thought that was awesome, the best part about it is Gilmore started cutting himself when he saw the glow in the dark t-shirt. They have a black, did you see that? The black light t-shirt has the ha ha ha's all over it. Pretty fucking cool. Yeah, Tyler's got one and you don't, dude. Limited edition, Gilmore's going to cut himself something and pick up in Japan, did you have sex in Japan? No? I figure that's the perfect pedo kind of, there's something very pedo isn't it? Oh, they got so much pedo DVD stuff. It's like, oh, it's disgusting. And what about these real dolls, that's that? They have anime, they have anime real dolls, you know how we have real dolls that look like people? I don't have a real doll in America, in America. Yeah, the real thinking, he's a good person. But they have ones that look like the anime girls, the girls in Hentai. Fuck, bub. It's like fucking a cartoon, man. Maybe Betty. You're nodding though. You're nodding. Like, what if we had one of Ariel from The Little Mermaid? Would you try this? Oh, see, you don't know, Mary do a red head. So that's getting there. Oh, what? But if it would be shaped like Ariel, where would you go? You know, Ariel, when she has a spell on her, when she can't talk and she can only, and she has legs. Oh, so she can't talk too? And she has legs. Oh, yeah, that's a perfect girl. So good. That's partially why she's like one of the hottest cartoon character ever. Hey, why don't you bring me back one of those Japanese, like, sleeping pads, where it's just like an arm, and you sleep on it? Have you seen those? They have boob ones now. Oh, they have boob? Why don't you bring me back some fake titty? We have those here. Can you find me some? Hey, you're in LA, dude, if you can't find fake titty in LA. Someone on the forum. I think someone on the forum. Someone on the Geekscape forums, I think, sleeps with one of those. I saw someone post it once. I think someone sleeps with him. I think it was done. We're here in this room, and he's not here. He probably sleeps with a giant fucking foam cock. Look at what, look, look, there's probably covered in spizz. I don't want to test that thing. It's like, it's like part of its burn through from its ass and junk. He's not here to offend himself, and I'm sorry. He's working his porn junk. So convooks, I want to briefly do convooks because we want to talk video games. Just right. The only comics I really found anything out about is that DC is doing a final crisis to wrap up all their crisis of infinitors, infinite crisis, identity crisis. They're finally in May. Thank God. Count down. The series that's going on right now is counting down to final crisis. Only reason I'm excited about it is Grant Morrison and D.G. Jones, the dudes who did Marvel Boy for Marvel. These artwork kicks ass, and they were a good team over there, and looking forward to it. He also did the artwork for Wanted, the Mark Millar book. But they're doing a final crisis. We'll see. I really hope it's the final one because these crossovers are killing me. I think this Planet Hulk crossovers are horrible. What? The World War Hulk? Wait a second. Did you like 300? No. This is basically like 300. I think it's basically the Hulk sitting in Times Square, and people just cut like wave after wave coming after him. Every issue is another wave coming after him. Nothing's happening. Can I talk to you about this? You can talk to me. I think World War Hulk is a big world war disappointment. Dude, I love World War Hulk. It's good over here. Yeah, we're going to code this guy. What do you like? He's the meat. Speak towards his mic. Speak into his chest. Put it in my chest. Transformers. Go for it. This is like a, I'm loving World War Hulk. How could you not like World War Hulk? You like it, you don't like it because there's not enough story or what? There's no story. It's literally the Hulk in Times Square, in every issue, they have the person who was on the cliffhanger page of the issue before fighting his ass, and then there's a cliffhanger page where the next dude steps up. Okay. Did you read this last one? It's like you're, it's like you're reading, so it's like you're watching somebody play Street Fighter. Let's go. But in comic form. No, but see, that's the thing. If there would be any less than that going on, it would be complete bullshit. Yeah, you know what? Because everyone has to beat up the Hulk. I'm wanting more. You want more? I want story. Okay. So you want the Hulk to do something. But he is. He's building a Colosseum with which he can get people together and have them fight to the death. Yeah, that's cool. That's fucking awesome. Have you read issue three? Yeah, I read all of them. Okay. I'm not interested. Well, at the end of issue two, I think two or three, it was the biggest I've ever let out at the end, like the splash page. Yeah. In the middle, you had Johnny he's just fought. He's just fought so many damn heroes. And who shows up on the end? Fucking Thunderbolt Ross. With a handgun. With two handguns and like six helicopters behind them. What the fuck? You're like all right. So you just had Johnny Storm and Storm like giving it like they're all and like the fucking page went white and shit was melting. And that didn't work. And it's like I've got some guns. Here's this old guy. I've been in the army since the 60s. The one dude has probably been promoted less than Captain fucking Crunch. He shows up with two handguns. Dude, you've been Thunderbolt Ross since the 60s. I know. You suck at your job. You don't want your not president yet because you can't stop the damn hole. That's why you're not president. But he is. Don't put the gun in your mouth. But you know what? But you know what? I forget about it. At least Captain Crunch could beat the Soggy's. The Soggy's been fucking business. But you know what? I forgot about it. Who got a fuck of your serious? Was that he's general Thunderbolt Ross. He's been so Thunderbolt Ross. But you see, did you read the incredible Hulk thing? It turns out the entire armed forces of the United States, like everything, like the president puts forth the executive decision, he has the entire army behind him now. That's kind of cool. And they have adamantium bullets. Sure. And that's pretty, and they're like tearing through the Hulk's flesh. And they're like, almost like, they could have killed him while Dr. Strange was trying to fuck with his mind or whatever. But anyways, it's just this book is action. It's everything that I always think you, bitch, about not being in other comics. No, it's always story. Like things that you're just like, there's too much talk. There's too much like, you know how the boys right now is getting a little like, okay. Yeah. The boys maybe laugh out loud once this last issue, but for the most part it's been pretty. I think it's really, I'm thinking of dropping it. But you know what? Preacher didn't get rolling until the issue. A second trade. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, until after the Vietnam. I'm going to stick with the boys. You're going to stick with the boys? I mean, so am I. And then Preacher got old towards the end of it. No way. Yeah. When they started getting into that funky town where the dude was making women out of meat and shit like that, I was like, okay, now he's just being, now he's just being shocked. Dude, the Salvation arc was great. He was like trying to... Do you go home and fuck real girl, girl dogs? No, no, I don't feel like fuck real girls. I'm like, I'm going to fill you up. We'll keep that one in. We'll keep that one. He knows how I roll. I do. I do. If they, if they bleed your, it turns you on. Gilmore at night. I don't know if you know this, but many of us have hobbies like he's a stunt man. I like to play basketball. Gilmore likes to go out and stab homeless people when he's asleep. That's how it, and then he jerk off on them. Wow. I just heard a bunch of iPods turn off. So what the hell is the matter with you? Yeah, I don't know. What the hell is the matter? The Planet Hulk is great because... I like Planet Hulk, but this isn't doing it right. Because Planet Hulk was all story, and the thing is that you grow to love it so much. Like the reason I like World War Hulk is because like Planet Hulk makes you emotionally connected to the new life that Hulk has, and when someone takes that away, it's like, you're pissed. The Hulk is really pissed, and it's basically paying everyone paying the consequences of his entire life being ruined. Yeah, but for how many issues are you going to be playing this game? Well, they've been only playing it for three, and once again, like I said, if there weren't that many people hitting them at the same time, it would be unrealistic. I just don't think that this character is complex enough to carry a storyline like this. The Hulk is all forward, forward, forward, forward, forward, forward, moment. That's true, almost. He's just impact and impact. The best thing about Hulk's stories are the things that happen around the Hulk. Yeah, nothing, yeah, I thought that the way that they weaved in, the initiative was interesting. How did they? I actually think they got to read that issue. Okay, well go read it, but I thought that actually gave a little bit of an aspect to what we're reading in the World War Hulk book. More interesting than something we're actually reading in the damn book. Get behind the camera, let's go into video games. You tell me how much time we got, how we're doing. Justin's going to go back to there. Justin, I'm sorry that he has mail left over on his pants, and now you touched it. You got jerk. Not the first time. No, I just watched these. Fuck it with you. I don't think I considered the possibility. Yeah, you're like, "No, no, I just watched these. I spunk from my other pants, huh?" I hope the Horde didn't do it before she bled to death. I love that you're bringing blood into the equation. You didn't wipe any of this on there. You want this? You're dead a hortag. That's why I gave it to you. It was commemorative of my entire trip's work. You probably bought like five of these and somewhere in his trunk there's a hooker going like this. I don't get that. That doesn't work. Yeah, they're already dead. Yeah, they're already dead. When you put it in the mouth, you ever tried that? No, I've never tried that. You never tried. I mean, you see it in movies and like you never tried silencing, like seeing like, does this actually work? No. Are you okay? I never kidnapped anybody. No, I had a childhood. I had a childhood. You were the one kidnapped. Dude, I think... Oh, wow. It looks like I have so many issues. What? Can we give everybody your license plate number in case there's an umbrella or can just turn you in? In case there's a kidnapped kid, we can just basically say, "We know who it is." Go. We have video games. Oh, man. What we got to do? Okay. I'm just trying to do a show, a professional show. That's all I ever wanted to do since I was a little kid. I just wanted to make a show. Fuck you. It was better when you were in the audience. I love you. I love you, buddy. All right. Video games. We can talk about the BioShock demo. Did you play the BioShock demo? I did. I played it last night, actually. Do you think of this thing? Beautiful game. Yeah, this game. It's going to be... It says critical darling all over. And actually, it's been reviewed. Metacritic, I think, has it at a 97 average in seven reviews? Wow. Like, the lowest score is a 9-5. That was a fun, damn game. It's a very... My wife liked it too. It's a great demo. The one that just went up on Xbox Live, the BioShock demo. And I got to tell you, after playing this game, I immediately went and shot Harrelin. Because that's what I think the game is about, isn't it? This is a game where this dude is... The story is you're like in a plane crash, you crash in the middle of the ocean, you swim to this kind of pillar tower in the middle of the water, you go downstairs and you find yourself in this underwater kind of city that this person set up a whole society. Trapped in the '40s, basically. I kind of trapped in the era between the swinging '20s and the '40s. It kind of has a steampunk feel to it, you know what I mean? But basically, you have guns, you're right, trigger, you know... And melee. Yeah, 'cause you start with a wrench. You start with a wrench, which kicks ass. But with your left hand, you shoot up these roids and it's these plasmas and you can use them to electrify things, light things on fire. And later, you can use them to reprogram some of the machines that you see in there and let you be used to. You shoot bees? You shoot bees out of your hand out here. Like Candyman? Yeah. Like Homer Simpson, when they're down there to send out the dogs or the bees or the dogs or the bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you. Now, the US can't complain that Justin's not geek enough to be on their show, 'cause that was some shit right there. That was good. Thanks. Yeah. The game is awesome. What do you think of the gameplay? 'Cause everybody is talking crazy about Stranglehold. I think the Stranglehold is going to be the next Matrix game that, you know, it's fun for the first couple of weeks you play it, but mainly it's just like a bargain bin. Well, Stranglehold, I got a little bored in the demo. Right. And that's not good when you're waiting for the demo to be done. It's pretty redundant. You know, Bioshock has that whole Deus Ex system shock sort of slower gameplay. You're not going to play that like a first person shooter. But it's also kind of, it's like condemned in that it's survival horror-y also and RPG-ish also. How it's creeped out, especially that last bit of the demo, and just that creepy feel where, you know, it's linear, it's not, it feels linear, it doesn't feel like an open world type deal. And so you're guided along kind of like those whorehouses, you know what I mean? Where, not a whorehouse. I don't know how you keep alluding to this as this like, I can do this. You're getting an erection and I barely fucking said whorehouse. I can relate to you in all the whorehouses you've been to. But, but you know what I mean, you're led along in every turning corner and you've got something that creeps you out and scares you. But the audio is great. You can hear people talking and you know that, you know, you're just kind of looking around for where they're going to be. Yeah. It's pretty spooky. I'm much more into like the Mario Brothers because I don't like to get scared out of me. It doesn't happen in the Mushroom Kingdom. No Koopa Troop is going to jump out and fucking bite my face off like this game. I want to see that. A Koopa Troop would bite your face off. I want to see a gory Mario game. Okay. You're not going to. That's what I've always wanted. Super Smash Brothers. Super Smash Brothers. Yeah. But just like a realistic like gritty Mario, I think would be cool. Like Mario GTA. It's kind of like little Italy enjoying like a mob. And you'll have all the Italians fear you're going to get. But yeah. Bioshock demo. I thought it was awesome. Do you think it was as good as like the critics were saying? I think so. I've been looking forward to it forever that and Mass Effect which is you know Biowares new game coming out. Can you describe a little bit more to me because I'm not like a, is it a first person shooter too? No. No it's, have you played Knights of the Old Republic, the Star Wars RPGs or Jade Empire or? As soon as those prequels came out I said you know what, that shit stays in my childhood because of the real game. Well you got it. You got to play the Knights of the Old Republic games. Those are independent Star Wars stuff. You're in the Star Wars universe. You're starting off being a Jedi apprentice with Amnesia but it actually turns out pretty cool. But it's RPG-ish in that you're walking around talking to people. You have a tree of communication where you can either piss guys off or befriend them. But it's not an MMO. No. It's all single player. Okay. And the combat kind of happens with D&D rules but it looks real time. It's that fluid but you can pause it any time and like pick your special attacks and whatever. The Knights of the Old Republic games are awesome. They're like probably KOTOR 1 is like the best one, the best Xbox games. Oh this isn't like just a PC game. No. Xbox 1, you probably, it was platinum hit, you'd get it for 20 bucks but anyway. Well worth it. You told me that $20 game for the DS that you've been playing like crazy. Oh pick cross baby. What is this? Because you told me dude. So everybody knows Sudoku. Right. I love Sudoku. Right. I'm kind of over Sudoku but this is, you picture you've got like a grid, let's start with a 10 by 10 grid all squares. And on the top and on the sides you have these numbers. So if you have a 10 on the top it means there are 10 squares punched in or kind of chiseled in. That have numbers. That have squares on them. There's no numbers in the puzzle. Okay. You're either, you're either punching it in or not punching it in. Okay. So you follow the down and the, the aside and you eventually have a picture. So it has a little bit of minesweeper to it. Yeah it's a little minesweeper too yeah. And so all you're doing is punching grittles. Yeah. That's all you're doing. You're punching a grid with your DS. Yep. Or you can un, you can mark them with X's if you know like oh there's not going to be one there. So if you have, so you have a 10 by 10 grid and this says four space five. That means that there's four punched in and then at least one that's not punched in and then five more. Oh okay. To use process of elimination it really makes you think and then I've been playing. You're making a picture. Yeah it makes a picture eventually. And it's fun. It's true. You just described me like sounds like the most boring thing ever and it's not because of your description. It sounds like you're fucking punching blocks. Well my sweeper is addicted and fun and Sudoku is a lot of fun and it's like that but the thing is it's like it's a puzzle game but it's a single player puzzle game and there's a sense of accomplishment because at the end you get this cute little picture. Does it animate and like walk up straight? It does. Well I'll watch that. If you like. And it's only 20 bucks and it's got multiplayer. It's got, you can create your own puzzles. It's got, you can go online, play online and download new puzzles online and the puzzles that they have there's like 300 or so. Oh but it's fun. Oh it's awesome. Yeah. So something I wanted to buy too is Puzzle Quest. I never got into Puzzle Quest. I suck at that game dude. What is it? It's like Tetris or something? What's Puzzle Quest? It's sort of like a turn-based, it sounds like an RPG bit to it. Turn-based, what are those like cell phone games with the jeweled, bejeweled. Oh okay. It's like a turn-based bejeweled and there's power-ups in there and you can eventually launch special attacks. But you know, you go and then the other guy goes and then you drool a little bit. Oh yeah, I got my shit all over the place. That's how we do it on Geekscape. But there's RPG elements to that. That's a good game too but I suck at that game. And dude I would not imagine you just sucking any game just from talking to you. You're all about the fucking games. You're into games like Ramen and the fucking movies. And saying the word fucking is my favorite adjective. So November 12th we got a ton of games. We got that Assassin's Creed coming out. We got Mario Galaxy. See I don't believe Nintendo release dates until then. You don't think it'll happen. You think this Metroid game is going to come out at the end of August though, right? Yes. They're not hyping at all. Like if I didn't know the release date, I wouldn't know this game. Well because they don't need to hype. It's an Nintendo game on the Wii and there's nothing that people are playing right now. What are you playing on in Wii right now? Nothing I'm playing with. Mario Strikers, man. You know Brain Academy. You're not into those different strikers. It's okay. Right. But if a big franchise for Nintendo, everybody's going to buy it. They don't really need to pump it up that much. And to me Metroid Prime 2 is really disappointing. Metroid Prime 2 was a lot of you. You don't want to be Metroid Prime 1. It only sold half as many as... Because same fucking game. Before I'm right. Oh look, you're on Alien World, there's Alien Culture, there's Space Pirates. It's the same fucking thing as Metroid Prime 1. And I don't want to play that game again or else I'll play that game again. Mm-hmm. Well I mean you're going to check out this one though. Oh, most definitely. And I told you, is this the one that comes with a little gun or is it... I told you about the little gun that they should... I've seen 93. Yeah. What is that game for? Is that for like Duck Hunt? I don't know. You know Nintendo is so peripheral, heavy. I don't even... Yeah, you were bitching about having bought the gun. Yeah, because I did this... You're in front of the light buddy. The Wii itself, the remote and the non-chuck. It's a peripheral in and of itself. You don't need more peripherals on top of your peripheral. Show me the games. We're missing games. You have the peripheral... Check them. Oh yeah. They're going to come out with it. They're not there like a little trackpad? They should. Perhaps. Have sex on that thing. In Japan? In Japan? Oh yeah. In Japan. I went to the arcades. The arcades in Japan, they're not fucking around. Seven stories. You walk in and it's when he injects you with something. They're seven so they might as well. People smoke in everywhere. Everyone's always smoking and there's this one kid who was there and my roommate and I just sat there. We couldn't not sit there. We were there for like a half hour watching this one kid playing House of the Dead Four. He purchased both machine guns and he was playing the entire game just with both machine guns. Just reloading, reloading, reloading. Just... This guy was a machine. Can't wait for zombies to actually happen and this kid's like the first to get eaten. No. No. This kid would fuck everything up. Like he's seriously, he was a man. The first time he actually fires a gun he goes back like 40 feet into a fucking zombie's little mouth. No. He's like, "Don't worry guys. Get behind me." You can't shoot on zombies, spit some out because he's been eating seaweed his old fucking life. Seriously. Oh wow. And there's the racist jokes. That's not racist. It's not racist. The kids been eating seaweed in his life. It's his character. So you go to a Japanese arcade and that's the first thing you talk about. You don't talk about the finger in the butt game or the dog walking on your treadmill. Did you see the booger or something? No, but I did see the game where it's poker. You're just playing some kind of poker and for no reason there's just Japanese porn all over in the background. You're playing poker. There's no reason. There's girls like that. Opening their kidneys. Yeah. Just doing all the stuff. Oh man. You must have loved you. You must have loved Japan. Is there just breast everywhere? I see someone to move there. I bet you do. There's no reason. There's no reason. What's the legal sex age in Japan? I have no idea. No, but you know what's cool though? College girls wear the schoolgirl outfits. Oh, I can get college girls to do that for me. No, no, no, but I mean in public and they have to. Like, dude, if I were president. On my private island, they're going to do that. If I were president, exactly. I'm with you. When I have my private hot island, or it's just pugs and hot girls, say it's all it's going to be. It's going to be like Jurassic Park. So back to this November 12th. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What else we got? Thank you. We've got a Assassin's Creed. We got the rear. We got Knights too. Remember that game from the Saturn? Knights in a dream? That was like the only good game on the Saturn. It was. It was a lot of fun. It was like Sonic. It was just like, you know, go for it as fast as you can. Army of two. Have you seen that game where you can drag your buddy along? EA in military, to me, just I keep thinking Medal of Honor and when will it all end? Right. I mean, this will obviously be a little different. This one feels a little like years with two player co-op, you know what I mean? I'm looking forward to it, if it works. You know what I mean? The only games that I buy first release are probably those Nintendo core games. You know, I know the Mario Kart is going to be good. Right. You know, I know Mario Galaxy's at least going to be better than Sunshine. Yeah, Sunshine was kind of weak. Sunshine I got about halfway through. On a Mario game, getting halfway through, you never, you always finish them. Right. From that one, you just lost interest. You know, and then we got the WWE games coming out around that time. You know, only losers right though, so you son of a bitch, I'll have them put you in a headlock. I'll give him a chop on, on, on air. Can you do it? Yeah, I should have a chop. Come over here. Give me a little chop. I just came from Japan. No, no, no, no. That's how they say I'm a little there. No, no, no, no. What is a chop? Get over here, get more, sit down right here. What is a chop? So professional wrestling chop is basically I slap him on the chest and try and make a loud noise. No, is that, is that what you do? Yes. How does that work? Like, am I supposed to fall back? So I'm going to go like that. Just stay there. Just stay there. Oh, so I'm supposed to like hold my shit so you can like, not necessarily. Are you supposed to be loud as, loud as hell? Basically. All right. Now it's turned into jackass. All right. Ready? It was jackass when a jackass got on the show. Too ready. See you're ready for it. I'll get you're right there. You ready? I'm good. I'm not even ready. Look at this. Can we see this? Look at that. Look at that. It'll take a while. Look at that. Is it nothing? I want to lick it a while. Oh, fuck you. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry for whiting your screen. If you're in the dark right now, I just lit up the entire room. Get out of here. Hey, you want to call Paul and wake him up? Yeah. Let's call my brother and wake him up. How's that feel? It feels like I have a new layer of skin. You might have a handprint on there. Oh, do I? I'm going to check this shit out. If it's under two layers like that, you won't see it. Hey. Can you hear this? Oh, shit. Brian, I need you to get over on the microphone. Yeah. He does have a red mark. He does. Let's go, Paul. So imagine taking about three of those in a row. We're going to call my brother and tell him that Gilmore just took a-- what was it? Chop. Oh, I'm not. Oh, forget that. Paul's not up. Paul's probably asleep. I want to tell him that you took a bump. A chop. A chop. A bump. Let's see this. Come here. Come here, Whitey. Oh, we might have to-- Shut up, Nanny. I'm going to be able to hear you a little fresh. No, we might need to refresh this. It looks pretty. Okay. Sit down. Sit down. Right there. No. That was weak. That was weak. That was weak. It doesn't even hit balls. I know. Because they're small. I'm not doing any of that fucking chop-chop. So you're the most-- for having a rest of the brother, you're the most anti-wrestling guy. Yeah, because dudes on dudes, man, you look at her rooms. He's afraid he'll get hard. It's like Paul's room growing up had a ton of naked dudes all over the place and undies. Naked dudes. Yeah, it was a bunch of dudes in undies. It was like your room when you were growing up? I had heavy metal posters on my desk. I can see that. Because you were like-- But they were all born. They were dudes with long hair. I had some four members. I had like basketball players. Hey, you can open the ages though. All posters were dudes with long hair. I had my like, his coasters. Like anything. Yeah, exactly. I had basketball players in fucking comic books. You'd come along, fans? And shit like that. I'm not. I'm actually a John Stockton fan. Well, it is. I'm fine. Come along. I think cost John Stockton championships. Fade away. You don't fade away in the finals, baby. You take it to the room. It's just like Jordan taught you in your face. Actually, I was in Brian Russell's face. Oh, that jump was in Brian Russell's face. I know you can feel it. It's like a life preserve. I told you he was doing that stuff. He's a professional. That was a pro slot. I see. I don't know how to do these professionals. That was like a belly flop. I tried to avoid touching dudes. It's not out of homophobia. But he can kick your ass into the difference. Could Justin kick my ass? Absolutely. But he touches dudes. Hint he can kick your ass. Oh, dude. I break him with my mind. I just talk him into sleep. I'm just blah, blah, blah, blah, I'm quick with the rhymes. That's our episode. How do you feel about that being our episode? I enjoy his best episode I've ever been on. Maybe the best episode we've ever made. We got a couple. Will you stop rubbing your tit and cry like I'm in college over here? He's over there going, oh, dude, my hand showed up. It did. My hand showed up. You're the most marked up dude. Well, that's because I'm, like, whiter than that paper you wrote that. That's right. It's your fucking goal. Go find your ring. Is that like, do you, like, grow a testicle where the mosquito bit ear or something is there? Like, grow a testicle. I feel more is a girly man. Oh, my friends are just testicles. Gilmore, you might want to clean that up. We have t-shirts. We have geekscave t-shirts. I have to remind you all to go to geekscave.net and visit our store. We also have a MySpace, it's geekscave.com/geekscavenet. We have forums at geekscave.net/ forums and on the forums what we're doing is we're donating all of our old trade pair of racks, video games, magazines, books, things like that to a bunch of troops in Iraq. If you go on there, kick the camera again, bitch. If you go on there, you will see a forum topic called Trades for the Troops. Go on there. You'll see an APO address. Just send it off like you're sending it off to any normal US PO box for mailing address and those dudes will get it and they'll be very thankful for it. But the thing about that though is that I don't want people to be sending, "Oh, this sucked. Let's send it over." I'm going to send mine over basically how I would send over a request to a friend that lives far. You said it like a care package. A request from a friend that lives far away is just like, "I recommend this for someone who either doesn't read comic books or already does." The point is, we can talk about wrestling and fighting people all you want but these kids actually signed up, they're over there fighting, we don't know when they're coming home. You're a son of a bitch if you don't actually support the fellow Americans who are over there in the middle of this shit. So let's make things a little bit better for them and give them a little bit of our geeks stuff that we're enjoying here at home, bring it over to them. That's the Trades for the Troops thread over the Geekscape forums. How do you like the shirt? This was done by a Geekscape member. This dude, Weaver has his own kick ass, have you seen it? Well, he's got some banners on the site, he's one of our forum members and he has a little banner that says weaverware, if you go to Myspace.com/weaverware, this is his t-shirt deal. He said he's got a theme, he sent me his own t-shirt. I don't know, maybe he's like his own artist, you know, there's like his own deal, you know? Does it say on it? The last, I thought that was a band t-shirt. The last stuff? No, it's kind of a handsome little shirt. How were it all day? Some girl tried to grab my nuts? Oh, that you cannot deal with t-shirts? She was five. Wow. Wow. I didn't let her do it again. Oh, I got such a bad story, I'm looking up right now. Tell it, we have seven minutes, do it. So I lived on the street where I witnessed not one but two encounters of incest, neither did I participate in, but where were you? Basically a four-year-old, I walked in to my friends when he was nine, I was maybe 12, to see his four-year-old sister being pacified in a very disgusting way. How old was the person pacifying? Nine. What the fuck? Oh my God. What was the other, what was the other incest? He's like, "No, this is so gross, give me a call." Just a brother and sister that I would buy who were really tight. I slept in over there. I sleep in over at his house. And uh... How old was everybody involved? 10 to 12. Okay. And I was sleeping over at his house and she kind of came into the bed and he was kind of... Yeah, we were sharing a bed because I was staying over. You and the dude was, yeah. And that's cool at 12. Yeah. And he was like, "We shared a boat in San Diego." And she comes in the bed and I look at her kind of weird and she's like, "What? It's cold." And then... I... I... They're there for a while. I'm trying to go to sleep. She leaves. He looks over to me. He's like, "I got some." Oh shit! Oh no! No! No! I feel unclean! No! No! No! I want to get one of those crub down like fucking... Oh man, I want to get... Oh man, I want to get... Oh man, I want to get... Oh man, I want to get... I want to get... I want to get... That's how I felt. I was kind of a captive audience there. Well, I mean, I have a story like that. You don't really get it at 12. Like, the weight of what's happening. Like at 12 when I was playing Nintendo at my friend, I'm not going to say his name, but over at my friend's house, maybe 10 to 12, somewhere in there. And they kept the Nintendo in the parents' room so they could monitor the use. Clever. And I went to use the bathroom and I saw this box of what appeared to be roaming candles next to the toilet. And you guys may have heard the story, but I walked out and I said, "Hey man, I'm positive. What are these?" And he sees the box and I know now that there were tampons and he goes, "And I said what are all those things?" So the candles and he goes, "I don't really know. I mean, I tried to find out so I spied on my mom and I stuck one on my butt and nothing happened." Because he saw her sticking it in her, you know, and he thought, you know, "I have a hole there too. It's my ass." And I took these tampons up his ass and in my reaction to 10 to 12 somewhere in there, I was like, "Cool. I'm positive. I can play." And then later I was like, "What? What? What?" That's not comparable to what I got to know. I don't know. I've got a hand job. I've got a couch down. Yeah. Hand job is a pretty conservative estimate. Where were you? Where were you? When all this happened? He was laying next to them, dude. He probably got some residuals. Midwest. Midwest. You probably got dropped a couple of residuals right there. West state. Wisconsin. Okay. Wow. Really? That doesn't follow any stereotypes that I knew. No. Well... Her snacks smell like cheese. So... There you have it. Cheese. Well, I asked you. Cheese is Christ. I better cut that. I'm not... Cut the cheese. That's going in there. Oh, okay. I think that is the safest we're going to get for a place to end the episode. Justin, thanks for coming. Hey, right after that. Why don't we do the sponsor? Yeah. We got to do the sponsor. The sponsor's going to be really happy to be a part of this episode. Yeah. Thank you. Our sponsor's netriver.net. Netriver.net is a big ass hosting site in the Northwest. We love everybody over there. They've got amazing deals. They've got 895 hosting deals. If you're like a PC gamer, you know, get a sponsored server from these guys. You can run your own games. We haven't had one mess up since we've been hosted by these guys. They're very reliable, very affordable, and we love everybody at netriver.net. They don't love us right now. And I got to let you guys know that if you put in the code GILMORE, named after our very own episode director over here, you get 10% off your order. So you can get your domain names to them. Just email their sales department. They'll hook you up like they hooked us up and you'll get some. You'll get some. I got some. Wow. They're not smelling cheese. We will see you guys next week after you've recovered from this little banter about incest in the Midwest. I want him back every week. Yeah. Well, Justin can come back whenever he wants. I think he's very good. Yes, dude. Thank you. Thanks, man.