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So go to geekscape.net, visit the web store, buy yourself a t-shirt, a tote bag, even buy yourself some pens, every order gets free pens. Check it out. Love you guys. Enjoy the episode. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] Hey, what's up, guys? Welcome to a geekscape episode 29. That was our brand new theme song. I hope you enjoyed it. Sitting down with my good friend Scott Glosterman. Directed the movie right here, Behind the Mask. The rise of Leslie Brennan. We're going to get into that. Great. Thanks for having me. So this is a horror movie that our good friend Ben, Funnel Fish Dunn, who's sitting behind the camera. That's Ben's hand. Ben started talking about it on our forums at geekscape.net. Thank you, Ben. Much appreciated. Ben saw the movie, enjoyed it, and little did he know that because we're both pen grads, I had an in and was going to get Scott on the show. So thanks for being with us, Scott. My pleasure. Thanks for making it. This is Gilbert, by the way. Hey, Gilbert. If he keeps running it, at least you'll know who he is. Gilbert is fantastic. Your viewers know that my two dogs, Hank and Cheese, and Laura's dog, Ruth, is her frequently on the show. He's a sucker for the camera. He's awesome. He's a sucker for the camera. What kind of dog is it? Gilbert is a purebred English Staffordshire Terrier. He just pulled out his dog's microphone. It's on his leg. Yeah. There he goes. He's an erascal. Have you ever taken the bar part of the mall? Oh, the time. Right here. Yeah. Yeah, I should call you, because that's where I take Hank and Cheese. All the time. Except he just got neutered, which is his own personal horror movie. Oh. And he hasn't been in a couple of weeks. No, you'll be back. I had a bunch of friends who were trying to get me to give him neuticles. But I wasn't going to be that guy. Yeah, when you do your rap album, you can start neutering. How would you do in a dog fight, Gilbert? No, he's a lover. So for those of you guys who are recently picking up the show for the first time, we're going to talk about movies, video games, and comics. And break down the latest news and reviews. And you guys know me as a big dog person, so we can talk about dogs on the show. And you'll just have to sit and wait through it. The big movie this week that I went and see was Die Hard 4. This is Live Free or Die Hard. It's George McLean. He's back. I mean, I don't know about you, but it's a PG-13 movie. Is that the pinnacle of that? I thought we had a PG-13 Die Hard. Depends what the context is, but, you know, the original Die Hard was R, clearly. In the next two or R. In the next two or R, I guess you're right. And now we have our first PG-13 Die Hard movie. You set this one out, but I got to tell you, Scott, I went into this movie really cynical and thinking that this was going to be kind of a joke. But I had a respect for The Scapists, so I wanted to watch it. I walked out of the movie loving it. Well, I'm really glad you say that because I did sit this one out. This was not one that I needed to be at the midnight, Tuesday night showing. And, you know, the original Die Hard is probably my favorite action movie ever. So I'm glad that you came out with a positive movie. I would put this as better than the second and third one. Well, the second one took place at Dulles Airport. Yeah. I mean, this is Gilbert Arenas right here. Did you name him after Gilbert Arenas? Clearly. Now, Gilbert's a huge nerd, too, because he sponsors an Xbox team. Well, that's awesome. Gilbert Arenas, I would love to have him on the show because he's a geek. He's into the whole Xbox Live competition stuff. And he's probably one of the craziest personalities in sports. But he's also, from what I hear, one of the nicest, most integrity-laden guys. Yeah. Yeah. But I am from right outside of DC. For those viewers? Gilbert Arenas is a basketball player, placed for the Wizards. Yeah. They're like, "Where can I find him on my World of Warcraft? I will find this Gilbert Arenas, and I will destroy him with my mage sword level 17." Well, we still have to be loyal to from where it is we came. Yeah. So, since I hired two, you know, extra special place in my heart. Enemy of the state, all of those. They shot that in Baltimore. That was DC. And what's the one with the recruit? The recruit? They shot that in your hood. Colin Farrell. Yeah. So, what I love about Die Hard 2 is that the actor who plays McDowell's from Coming to America gets sucked into a plane engine. The Golden Arches? The Golden Arches. Yeah. He gets sucked into a plane engine in Die Hard 2. That's fun for the whole family. Yeah. But this Die Hard, this one is Bruce Willis. And he's back as John McLean. And now he's got a rescue. A bunch of hackers. The movie opens with a bunch of hackers hacking into the defense mainframe. What is it they're hacking into? No, they're testing. They're testing. They sent all their codes to... Oh. Okay. They sent all their codes to the back guy. They sent all their codes to the back guy with those codes. They sent all their codes to the back guy. They're supposed to be testing the security of this new program. They're really being tricked into hacking, you know, making a bunch of code to hack, you know. And the villain Timothy Oliphant uses this stuff. We have to talk about that. To hack into it. So, the bad guys, of course. Because for all those hackers out there, if you work for bad guys, they're going to come and try and kill you. So, there's no evidence. We've got the mad guy just in long. My twin. He's one of these hackers and he's the only one that doesn't get killed off within the first two minutes of the movie. John McLean sent to escort him to what is it? The bureau. The bureau, you know, to find out about this. That bureau. There's always that stuff. And, of course, John gets there right as the bad guys are there to try and kill him. And everything rolls into a big showdown with these guys who've just hijacked America. The reason I think that this movie works is some of the reasons. It's a fresh director, even though it's the director of the underworld movies. It's the director, Len Wiseman, a guy who did the underworld movies. That may be really cynical because I was like, dude, this is going to be some aliens versus a predator bullshit. It turned out it's pretty fresh. The action is really clean. You can tell what's going on. Not like a lot of these action movies where they just blur you to death and then throw a bunch of sound effects at you and hope that you get what's happening. I thought the action was pretty clean. Even when it gets to the point where it's a plane versus a truck, you will actually get to that point and say, you will love that. It's a car that hits a helicopter in mid-air. And that is worth $10.50. Right. Right. This is a super action movie. Like an old school blockbuster. When you had the action section and you had the super action section, this belongs in the super action section. Right here is my big question for you. American villain in a die-hard movie. Yeah. It really makes me uncomfortable. The reason that these guys work as the villain and why I think they're great villains is they're computer guys. When I first found out that it was going to be McLean versus a computer virus that takes out America, I got really cynical. But the way it works in this movie, the way it's handled is he's totally outmatched. He has no idea how any of this stuff works. Not only does it know, he doesn't really give a shit. He just wants to get to these guys so he can punch them in the face. You know, this is a guy who uses his hands, who bandages up his feet to go across. Yeah, he's an analog guy in the digital world. Thank you Ben. And so he gets to these points in the movie where he's like, "Dude, I don't know how this shit works." And he needs this Justin Longhacker character and later Kevin Smith to help him out because he's totally outmatched. These guys have totally already won by the time he enters the equation. Well, I see it. So the drama is high. And I see it from a theoretical standpoint. But ever since Star Wars, your villains are British or they're German. Or they just have to have some sinister accent. Absolutely. Too many all of fun. I love that guy. I love him ever since Go. But in Deadwood, one of my favorite TV shows ever. He was so great. But for him to then pick up where Hans left off. It's kind of like... Does he borrow off? You know what? He hires a lot of Europeans. So he hires a lot of Europeans. You're going to see Bruce Willis smack a bunch of European dudes around. A lot of French people who do that. Is Bruce Willis his daughter in it? Is this like right out of 24? Yeah. Bruce Willis's daughter is in it. She doesn't really get taken hostage until like... I mean John McLean's daughter is in. John McLean's daughter is in. The other reason I think this movie works is they weren't... You know, it's like, remember that I made a Jones picture that hit the web from indie 4? And they're only pushing the story up 10 years even though he looks like he's 25 years older than the last time we saw him. John McLean has aged the appropriate amount of time. And he's like an old codger. He's like rickety. He's pissed that he has to go through this crap. And you can tell his body isn't a lot of pain constantly. And he ages the character and he's really grizzled and he plays him like a codger. It's a lot of fun to watch. Yeah, I get an interesting anecdote to that end that your viewers might think is worthy of, you know, 15 seconds. Here's a Ford. Now, this could be conjecture and I won't reveal my sources. But when they were doing some of all fears, they wanted Harrison Ford to play the president because he had aged up at that point and he had this nice little evolution to his character. He was kind of continually getting more and more power. This is the Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan. That's right. And what happened was Harrison Ford and perhaps his representation felt as though he wasn't old enough yet. Psychologically, he didn't want to be the president. He still wanted to be Jack Ryan. Because once you go there, you can go back. Once you go there, you can't really age yourself down. So whether or not, you know, you can see after some of all fears what his movie choices were. But clearly, Ben Affleck became the new Jack Ryan because Harrison Ford, you know, they didn't see him as Jack Ryan anymore. And it's interesting that you say he's so aged up from Indiana Jones. I mean, that was one of the big issues. Is this a picture of Indiana Jones on set? I saw one of the pictures of Shiloh the Buff. I mean, after having seen Transformers, we saw Transformers. We're going to review it next week. Well, he completely pulls it off. He's great. I think he's terrific. Yeah, he's definitely going to be huge. And I was pretty cynical of him because I was like, okay, we'll see if he can do it. Because they're always talking about these hot actors who are going to be the next big thing. I actually think this guy's got the legs to do it. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think Die Hard 4 is definitely the first movie this summer that I'll see again. Really? In the theaters. And it's that kind of popcorn movie. Dude, you got to see this movie. I'm going to see it. There are certain movies I just, I have to see in the theater. And it's tight. I'm so upset that I didn't get to see Pirates in the El Capitan. I never get to see movies in El Capitan because it's the Disney theater. They have all the kids movies. But Pirates is finally going to get to see it. That's a big one. I haven't seen the movie in El Capitan since the rookie. Wow. Yeah. Did you see, because they've got, every year they do the Nightmare Christmas. 3D? Never seen it. You've never seen a Nightmare before Christmas period? Never seen a period. That's the place to see it. And I've seen, you know, every single Tim Burton film. Yeah, that's the one to see it. You got to see it now. All right. Well, absolutely. And he's a great theater. Yeah. You know, people go for the man's Chinese, but right across the street in Hollywood, you've got El Capitan. It's fantastic. And man's Chinese, I feel, doesn't have the best audio. No, it's a, it's cavernous. It's like, it's like the Orpheum in Montreal. It's, it's just so deep that, that the sound actually echoes if you're sitting way in the back. Right. It's pretty crazy how big those theaters are. Watching in a cave. They're not theaters. They're not theater. They're palaces. In a digital world. Thank you. Thank you Ben. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit about your movie. Great. Behind the Mask. Raisalise Lee Vernon. Yes. I saw it on Sunday. Thank you for watching it. Thank you for watching it. That's a fun movie. Thanks. I appreciate that. I mean, you were a fan of all this stuff growing up. Absolutely. This is a movie about a guy who emulates Jason, Freddie, Mike Myers, to the point where he wants to pull off this kind of... They're real. Yeah. He wants to, he wants... They're real in this universe. This is a, this is a world where you can get on a plane and fly to Metropolis. You can get Freddie Krueger on the phone. Right. You know, if you've got his number. Right. So, yeah. In this world, there's a guy who wants to be the next famous killer. Yes. And now there's a documentary crew who wants to do the story of his extension. Right. This guy is going to be not to make another basketball reference in the same show. But this guy is the next Michael Jordan of Psycho Slashers. And he is given a documentary crew exclusive to access to his life while he plans his reign of terror over the next unfortunate little talent. What's great is that you definitely pick up on the things that happen in almost every single one of these slashers films. Right. And then... And you name them. Right. You know. How long did it take to write the script? Because it's a pretty tight script. Oh man. The original screenwriter, David Stevie, had written a script that had made the slam dances best screenplay competition before I even saw it. And so it probably took him a year to do that. And then we worked an additional two years on it after I got it. So you were just asking me before the show how long it took to shoot. It took 24 days to shoot this movie. And it took probably over three years to write it. And so... Did you get chills when Robert England came on set? Or when you met him for the first time? Did you get... I mean because Robert England plays the Ahab character, the guy who is trying to stop this killer. And... Yeah dude. I mean dude, it's Robert England from V. I'm kidding. Probably the... You know. I'm on the street. You got it. Honestly. Dude. It was amazing. The guy completely validated for us and legitimized for us what we were doing when he stepped on the set. It was... Right. We had something... Now you're the horror movie. Yeah. And like he'll bring an audience with it. Well, from a business standpoint, clearly, we had something tangible there too. But he was our coach, our mentor. I mean he showed up and he was giving tips to Nathan Basel, this guy. And he was comparing him to Anthony Perkins and I mean the guy was regaling us with these crazy anecdotes about being young in the '70s in Hollywood and Malibu. He's a veritable encyclopedia of every single bit role that anyone's ever had in the movies or on stage. He can just bring it up for you. Wow. I mean it was amazing. The guy... The guy was so great. Yes. So... Do you think you can have Zelda Rubens date? Yeah. Zelda Rubens scene. Dude, she freaks me out. Did I wish you freaky in person? She is very, very sweet in person. She is... She's the one from the Poltergeist movies. That's right. And she... What? And 16. And King Witch? Oh. This is all time Harbinger of Doom. And in fact Richard Kelly just used her in Southland films and sort of that. Is that ever coming out? Is that ever coming out? I don't know. I don't know. Because now he's working on a new movie. He's working on a new horror movie called "The Cube" or something like that. He got sick. Hey, Kong. You know, I think that I was... I think I haven't seen the movie, but I think it was a product of this guy just killed it with Donnie Darko. And you had a bunch of people giving him probably a little too much leeway and too much final cut. Did you hold back? Did I hold back here? You know what? Well, you got to see the DVD. I'm not going 110 on this one. I'm going to go about 89. Well, no, no, no. That wasn't really my point. My point is... Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah. You got to know when to get in and when to get out of scenes. And if individual scenes in movies are maybe great, but in the context of the larger picture, in terms of the movie pacing and moving and getting to a point, you know, some objective person is going to have to tell you where to kill your babies, because as a director, you love the way this scene works just as an episode unto itself. Oh, I'm not sure I'm going to have, probably hasn't had that guy for about five. Well, I don't know so much about Inza. I think maybe Terrence Malick, you know, he's got a little problem cutting, but again, I mean, these guys are just so beyond a stratospheric level. I think, you know, who knows? Yeah. The thing about this movie, I started watching this movie Sunday and... And you just finished today? No, no, no. But I'm watching it, but I'm watching it, and for the first, like, fourth of the movie, I'm like, you know what? I'm not totally buying this documentary crew following this killer. And there's a scene where they do give up on the project. And right there, you're like, yes, thank you. That's what anybody with a right mind would do, and say, you know what, this is going down a really bad road. We don't want to be associated with it. And they make a turn to come back, otherwise you wouldn't have a movie. But from that scene on, everything starts clipping and you go out like a race to the finish. Well, it's interesting. Because it's a hard sell. It's a really hard sell to say we're going to have this movie about the killer and people who are documenting him, you know? And I don't want to spoil the ending, or any character turns to this or that, but that one moment where you see Leslie Vernon, you know, our character who wants to be the famous killer, sitting at his car, and the van pulls back up, they're going to come back, they're going to make the film. Right. That's the turning point of the movie. She starts a clip. Right. Well, there's two things I would say to that. And first, in any movie, one, a director has to lay down his or her rules of the world in which that movie takes place in the first five minutes of the film, because someone can't just start flying in the 35th minute, because then all of a sudden I don't buy it. But if you lay down those rules very clearly, in the first five minutes you could have elves talking. You know, you can do Lord of the Rings. You do whatever you want. Die hard for? A jet versus a semi-truck. A jet versus a semi-truck, whatever it might be. So in this movie, I felt as though we had the Mulligans, we had some leeway because Freddy Krueger existed, and we said that fundamentally in the beginning of the movie. Right, very beginning of the movie. So if you know that there's this world where there's this kind of acceptable but perverse art form almost, which is the career of psycho slashing, then you're going to give the documentary crew a little bit more leeway along the lines of whether or not this is a moral decision to follow this crew. But if this took place in the world where we exist, and they were following a serial killer, clearly after the fifth minute, you'd turn off the movie and say, "I don't buy this." So that's how we got a little more leeway. But I do agree with you, tonally, there's a paradigm shift in the movie. And when we get to that place where you start talking about, the movie just speeds up and starts flying. Right. So there's a lot of, this is what I'm going to do and set up, and then it goes to, they do it. Boom. And that's when the movie starts really flying. That's cool. One of my favorite part of the movie is... What was your favorite part? The very end word. No. The difference that you have in the documentary could feel and then when it comes to the certain scenes that are the horror movies. Away from the documentary camera. Then shifts to a state horror movie stock. We wanted to combine that Blair Witchy and Spinal Tappy and... He just said Blair Witchy. Blair Witchy? That's my new word. That docu-style feel and cover those horror with the Sean Cunningham, Sean Cunningham, John Carpenter template and cover those horror films. So... Hold it off? So you guys definitely go check this out. It's on DVD. It's on DVD. It came out last week. It's... You guys have a nice DVD too. Thank you for giving me. I went to pick up the screener. I thought it was just going to be like a burned copy or something like that. You know, a screener. Let's say the DVD for the... Treat your eye. I pick up this deluxe edition shit. I was like, "Damn, this is awesome." I'm going to give it to my brother, because... Let me tell you, growing up, my brothers and I were the biggest fans of these movies. And I immediately called Paul and said, "Dude, you've got to see this movie." You know, our favorite scene in any/her movie, "Fries Her Teen Part 5" when the dude fucking hides up in the port-a-potty and starts going, "Oh, baby." Yeah. That's your favorite one. It's so ridiculous. That or maybe Kurt in the RV in Part 7. You can catch it yet. I know. I want to see that so bad. That's the one Gilmore was talking about two episodes ago. I'm just catching it. I'm green, man. He's got some... He's got some... Patchets going to kick ass. Anybody who I know who's seen that movie says it kicks ass. Yeah, some pretty badass kills there. We will definitely review it here, because we're really good friends with the people who are called the screener from him. Get a screener from him, because I think he may be having to curtail some stuff for the MPAA. Oh, wow. Definitely want to see it on Cut version. The thing I like the best about my DVD is the director commentary. The spine. The spine of this thing is twice the size of most DVDs, so if it's on a shelf, you're like, "Wow, there's a pretty big DVD right there." Anchor Bay knows how to do it. They really know what they're doing. And plus, it's a sleeve, which has a Velcro fold-out, and it's like... It opens. It's behind the mask. You can open them up. Yeah, the evil dead books, the dead ones are nice. Let's pause for a second and talk about our sponsor NetRiver.net, our good folks in Seattle. We love you guys. Thank you so much. NetRiver.net is a hosting company. They host all the geekscape stuff. I don't think there's been a glitch since you guys started hosting our files. Thank you guys so much NetRiver.net. You guys can go sign up. They've got different kinds of hosting plans. I go for the 8.95 a month one, and it works pretty damn well. You get 10% off too if you put in a promotional called Gilmore named after our very own Brian Gilmore. Put that in. You get 10% off. We've had a couple people sign up in the last week. Very happy to see that. Thanks for supporting our sponsors. And let's go into movie news. Peter Jackson, he's actually doing the lovely bones, which you know he's been trying to do for a couple of years, and he's cast Ryan Gosling and Rachel Weiss in it. Can we talk about Ryan Gosling a second? Yeah, because this motherfucker thinks he should never work again. And you and I think he kicks ass. I don't know, Ryan Gosling is incredible. Have you seen the believer? Okay, I'm going to have to take it back because I love that movie. Yeah, you're going to take it back. Ryan Gosling was an unbelievable movie, but I didn't even realize that that was Gosling. Was he a bully as well? I don't know if he was in bullying. That was a motherfucker with a Terminator 3, you get out of here. Right, but two years ago, it was probably one of the, well, you know, I can't say that on camera, but it was one of the worst Sundance years ever. And it was following the year before, which had hustling flow and brick and squid in the well, and the wrist of crass, all these great films in Ron's Mars Guys in the Room. Two years ago, it was just horrible, and the last film I saw that assent was great. But half Nelson, half Nelson was worth my trip to Sundance, it blew me away. He was so friggin good. A little character, that was so honest. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Even parts where he's trying to avoid an ex-girlfriend, you know, by being completely passive, aggressive, and uncomfortable. He's great. He's really honest and really sincere acting. You know, his career trajectory is a lot like Christian Bale's. I mean, these are guys, Billy Crudup, guys who are wrapped by the biggest agencies in town and have clearly said that they don't want to be superstars, they like picking their very artistic roles, having the cult following. And of course, you know, Christian Bale makes a very smart choice with Batman, but Gosling is going to be around for a long time. I believe, and I would like to say, you know, sooner or later, he's going to make one of these big action films like Johnny Depp started doing Pirates after doing the same kind of career path. That's him and even, that's him and he never wanted to be an action star. So if he was going to do an action movie, you know, it was going to have to be something sophisticated and cerebral, and did he not find his perfect action franchise or what? Yeah, the born movies kick ass, they've replaced the James Bond movies. Sorry, guys. I think Bond movies are boring, and you know this. Speaking of, I don't even want to talk about Tim's story doing another movie, but he's doing a comic book called The Losers. It's a DC book about a bunch of guys who are being hunted by the people who used to employ them to do jobs. I got a question. That's why you're really cool. What's up, man? As a comic guru. Yeah. What do you think about the viability of an ongoing, behind the mask comic book component? You know what? I would say that five years ago, like don't even try it. But now we've got horror books. I think there was a book called Preacher that came out of vertigo, DC, and that one reopened the audience for horror books, and it's not even that much of a horror book. It's kind of a Western with horror themes in it. Now you've got books like The Walking Dead, you have books like Thirty Days of the Night, you've got vampire books, you've got zombie books, you've got all sorts of horror books now. Now, I mean Wildstorm is putting out Friday the 13th books, which I hear are really well written and really well done. There's imprints that just do horror books. Now something like this would totally work. Really? Absolutely. I haven't been thinking about it. Something like IDW. Are you going to Comic-Con? Yeah. We're going to be at Comic-Con. I'm speaking on a panel on Thursday, and then we're doing the show on Saturday, and let me tell you this guys, Friday night, all the geekscapes are going to see The Simpsons, so keep checking the website and stuff like that for that outing details, but dude, the time is now. What's funny is that a lot of people are going to the comics to try and raise interest in their feature. You got your feature, buddy. Now you're going into the comics. Well, it was a cool way to keep going into the comics to, you know, horror is like NASCAR. It's a very, very tight, loyal community. Everybody's interacting with the filmmakers, the critics, the bloggers, the fans, and I feel as though the comic book community is the same way, but it's a slightly different community. It just, you know, helps build the brand and maybe creates viability for TV show. Not only that, but it's the best visual medium, in my opinion, because it's the one that can react the fastest. You know what I mean? A film, if you've got a great idea, it's going to be two years. It's going to be four years before somebody sees it, probably in its earliest. But with the comic book, if you have an idea, you know, you want to make Lex Luthor president because you're commenting on George W. Bush or something like that. I mean, if you want, if you have seen something in society and you want to comment on it, comic books are going to get that message out the fastest. If you have an idea and you want to experiment with it and see if it can find an audience, comic books are the place to go, you know? Also, because they sell so low, if it's a hit, you're in comics, you know it's going to be a hit in other mediums, you know what I mean? It's good microcosm for testing the waters. Absolutely, you know? And now they're hot, so people are standing up books just to get them, you know, the property is up. How much could I get for my day the Superman died, still in the black? I think the problem with that one is that everybody got it, everybody got it. I've got every G.I. Joe, one to a hundred, everyone, nothing, nothing. Not even 26. The Snake Eyes Storm Shadow that won. Guys, if you guys want to buy that off of them, we have people on our board selling comic books. You want to talk about a comic called Invincible? This is a good one for people who don't know comics. It's a good intro. It's a good intro book. This is the book. It's Robert Kirkman who writes The Walking Dead, which is a really kick-ass zombie book. Say you would love this book, Walking Dead. And this one's Invincible. What's this about? You want to come over here and see, it might can pick you up a little bit better. What is this? It's fun. Just trash everything. It's okay. So... What am I looking at here? What you're looking at, that's actually the seventh trade. Basically what Invincible is, it's about a guy who's basically the son of Superman in this universe. This guy who, his father's from another planet who has amazing powers and is pretty much invincible, but it's about him growing up. It's a lot like, if you see the movie like Sky High, that sort of thing. That's not going to sell it. Sky High is a great novel comic movie. But it really, it also deals with the issues of this kid who is all of a sudden super powerful. And it slowly works its way from being slightly realistic, if not, you know, comic book to you've seen. Can you tell that? Right. A brain for a body. The art is really clean. It's pretty clean. I don't know. It's really pretty. And this is a, this is a, and this is a good one for, for, for new guys who are just getting into comic books because like the first trade is good. Yeah. It's not normal. And then starts getting into more, more, like, out there. Out there. Superhero stuff. I don't want to give anything away because it's a huge twist. It's a huge twist. It's the end of the first trade. Okay. I think I know, I read the first trade. I know what you're talking about. That is a huge twist. But Robert Kirkman writes it. You guys have recommended to walk in dead a million times. Kirkman, we're a big fan of him here. And that, that would be the comic book to talk about. We have a monthly comic book club at GeekScape and like a bunch of kids get together. They talk about different comic books every month. And I don't know when the next one is but check GeekScape.net's forums. And you guys will, I think, I think we're talking about DMZ this month, which is a really damn good book. Video games. The Wii. There's a new Wii channel coming out. Do you know about this? Wiiware. Well, I'll hear about that. Do you hear about this? Oh, well, whatever. But this Wiiware it allows developers of all shapes and sizes to put up their original titles and distribute them. So if like, you guys make like a video game or something, you can distribute them on the Wii. I don't know. So it's a Firefox of the games. Right. But I don't want to have to pay for like somebody who made a crappy Flash Wii game. Right. I don't know. I think that's interesting. The Wii is also doing this, there's Lego Star Wars, which I'm a big fucking fan of. I've been playing those Lego Star Wars like crazy on the Xbox. But now there's a game coming out. Lego Star Wars, the complete trilogy. And supposedly on the Wii, you can do Wii Remote lightsaber battles. They're coming out into the battle. Which is huge. They're coming out. That's... I mean, that's... Can you do like twist around in Du Ballet and... Dude, I almost broke Laura's arm playing tennis once. So... I don't know. Dude, I don't want to see the game, the Wii Remote battles. I want to see the results. I want to see the YouTube videos of motherfuckers like putting their fists to their TV. That's what I want to see. It's like, dude, go have fun. It's like Halo 3 is coming out and I bought it for our friend Graham because he's such a Halo nut. And I...for his birthday, I got him Halo 3, reserved and stuff. And I don't even want to see play the game. I want to see Graham play the game. Because he was playing Halo 2 over at my place the other day and I love the motherfuckers on Xbox Live. It's amazing. These kids yelling at you. Graham picked up a sniper rifle and he's like, "Don't get the sniper rifle. Don't get the sniper rifle." And Graham goes, "Dude, it's a game." And he picks up the sniper rifle and they're on the same team and Graham starts using it. Graham's great. About 2 minutes later, this fucking kid on his team runs up to Graham, shoots him in the stomach. I just shoot him in the stomach and goes, "That's for stealing my sniper rifle." He kills his... Dude, these kids are out of control. There is a point with Xbox Live where you become so devoid of real social interaction. That is what I love. I love the people who obviously have not seen another human being in days in the Xbox Live. That's for stealing my sniper rifle, shot Graham in the stomach. You showed me this cool thing. You know how much I don't like Star Wars anymore because George Lucas took a knife and stuck it in my butt. That's what he did in my childhood. Star Wars though, this Lego Star Wars is getting me into it because they don't acknowledge the remakes. It's like really old school. And it's cute and it's fun. But you showed me this clip from the upcoming Star Wars The Force Unleashed. You were impressed by this clip. I thought it was just a bunch of dudes doing like four stuff. Oh, it was, was a bunch of Jedi things like pushing people. It was like they're lifting them up, dropping them on the ground. We're going to put the clip on, if I find the clip, it'll be playing right now. It's just a bunch of Jedi shit. You're missing the point of the animations of what you've got of the stormtrooper, how they're reacting, how the environment's reacting. That's what it's about. It's not about. That's a bunch of tech garbage. Is the game going to be fun? Yeah, absolutely. I've always wanted, come on, ever since the first thing you can see someone force, push someone, you want to just push an entire fucking house with force? That's what this is. Yeah, it was cool. I keep the stories of fucking Tie Fighter with pieces of garbage. This is what I like about my audience. Did you see how he gets crazy? He got like, wow. This is my audience. That's great. Dude, dude, I got so much hate mail from not having seen battles for Galatica. Now I'm halfway through season three now because I'm watching them. It's amazing. And last weekend I had dinner with Scott Stockthike, our former guest, who did the special effects for Swidey 3. His wife was an exec producer on Veronica Mars. I had to break it to her. I have never watched Veronica Mars. But she's nice enough to forgive it. She's nice enough to forgive us and she's going to try and get us some guests from that show. Hey, I got a question for you. Yeah. What does your audience think of the iPhone? Is everyone going to run out and get it or what? How are we doing? Are we doing a good on time? Uh, 13 minutes. Okay. We're doing good on time. Uh, the iPhone, I think for the most part people really want to have one. But I think they're waiting on the second edition. I think they're waiting for this bug one to get out. Is this going to be a big lemon? Uh, no. I think the iPhone's here to stay. Oh, no. I think the iPhone is-- No, I'm saying the first one. Yeah, the first one. The first one. Don't you think it's going to be full of bugs and shit? Well, every. Yes. I do. What's your iPhone? Here's my problem with the iPhone. I just think the internet is going to take a year and a decade to download. Yeah, I heard the-- Helios got all the YouTube on it that iPhone does and Helios got my space. Right. I don't know. And the iPhone is so expensive you can buy a Helio and a couple shuffles. Right. How much-- How much-- Well, it's not about-- but how much is a Helio? Like a phone? Yeah. It's $100. Is it $100? Yeah, it's like $100. All right. Well, there's service provider. I don't know. They are. It's Helio. It's Helio. It's not like AT&T or spreading it. No. Dude, let me tell you. I have the shittiest friend phone because I'm always breaking this stuff because I've been taking steroids with my friend, Chris Benoit, and I'm just getting right rage. Bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, Chris. Oh, no, he's down there. Hey, Chris. I'm sorry. Wow. This guy's good. He's good. I'm always smashing my phone. And it took me at Sprint. It took me like two months to get a replacement for the crap. That's the other thing. When happens when you lose this phone, I lose my phone all the time. It's 600 bucks. Are you dropping the phone? I have to get the crappiest phone because I'm always losing and always smashing it. You can go get the first day, someone who put up a Flickr account, the first day he broke it. Oh. He smashed it against the table accidentally. He said he went to the Apple Store and they replaced it for him. They did replace it for him? Yeah, but who knows? He probably paid the $200 for insurance on it. True. That's just $800 for a phone. Yeah. You know what? I like my iPod because they say it's the best iPod out there. I watch the 20 minute thing and I do want one, but, dude, guys, I've got 60 gigs worth of music on my iPod. I can't live with 8 gigs. I know I'm going to date myself, but the most expensive toy I ever remember growing up, and I'm not saying the iPhone is a toy, the G.I. Joe aircraft carrier. Oh. Oh, wait, how much time? Come on. The aircraft carrier was like six feet long. Wow. It held every single friggin G.I. Joe toy. That is right. I mean, you could take the aircraft carrier and then go to the E-Walk Village and then, you know, you got your predator, guys, and they come out and they job a hut. It's all the same thing, but the bottom line is that was like $99. Yeah. And that was outrageously expensive. Yeah. And now you've got a phone that is $600. I don't know. Well, I mean, do you want any game systems? Any video game systems? I had the Genesis. I had Sega. I know it today. I don't have anything. No, but I might. I might spark for the PlayStation because it has Blu-ray and I'm not ready to spend $400. I'm Blu-ray yet because I'm not sure what's going to happen. You might as well get a game system like that. So I might as well get a game system to see what all this craziness is about. I mean, I'm enjoying the Wii. I'm enjoying the 360. The PS3 is obviously the next one. I'm waiting. I know there's going to be another edition of the PS3 that has -- because now there's an Xbox 360 that has like a better cooling fan in it. Well, is Xbox going to put the HD in Xbox? I don't know. Do they do HD DVD? Do they do HD DVD in the next box? Yeah. You can buy an external drive -- there's so many headaches, dude. Just give it to us, you know? Yeah. A PS3 I think comes with it all that shit. It comes with the Blu-ray. It comes with Blu-ray. That's why I'd probably get that. Are the games good? I don't review them because I -- I don't mean -- There's no excuses. There are anything that you play on the PS3, you can play on 360. Resistance? Oh my God. That's the only one? Another opportunity to ask this question because I go online looking for this answer, and I can't even find it online. Why is the Tiger Woods Golf game not available on the Apple computer? The 95. 95 is on the Mac, but they've got 97, and they've never -- it's 95. I don't know. No clue. Let me tell you. Dude, if you're a golf video game player, the Wii. Yeah. The Wii. I have heard. Dude. I have heard. It's insane. Literally, you're playing golf in your living room, man. I've heard that. I've heard boxing. And it's sensitive. Amazing. It's sensitive, too. So, like, I was playing just the Wii Sports Golf, and, you know, I'm weak, we're rested. Oh, really? Yeah. I got it. I turned it a little. I turned it a little, and this shit cut. And I was like, oh, man, that is the last time I -- that is the last time I matched me. Sorry. I played the Wii. Ryan Gilmore's with the Wii with golf? What was his problem? Oh, he's just -- he's so lazy that he discovered he doesn't have to stand up while playing it. Yeah. He does golf like this. Oh, he golfs overhead? He sure is. That's not. That defeats the whole purpose. But, dude, the Wii for golf games looks awesome. And, I guess, light-table savor battle, so -- And light-table battle. So, we got forums at GeekScaped.net. We can wrap up the show. Thanks. Scott, your kick-ass guest, dude. Thank you. Thanks for having me on. We got our forums for this week at GeekScaped.net. His most badass people alive, it was started by a guy who goes by the tag, No Hard Feelings. His list is Samuel Jackson, Tom Waits, Christopher Walken, Bruce Campbell, and Henry Rollins. Out of that list, I thought Henry Rollins and then I saw that fucking movie Feast. You let me borrow? That movie is shit, dude. Did you see that Project Greenlight thing Feast? I was so excited to see that. I thought it would be fun. You own that. Wow. Let's not get into what I own again. Wow. You got some bad movies in collection. My favorite British listener, Helen Bot, said Mr. T. Nobody in America thinks he was cool anymore. Bruce Campbell. He's from Bruce Campbell. Yeah. John Spencer. Yeah. It's GeekScaped. They're all going to say Bruce Campbell. Tom Spencer. Yeah. All honored to his name. Yeah, of course. Tom Waits. Renee Russo. Does it make it in that movie? Was that Thomas Crown Affair? She gets naked in Thomas Crown Affair? Is it a body double? There it is. Has to be a bottle. No. That's CGI bullshit. This was also like 10 years ago. Yeah. Oh, well. You know I love the Coug, man. You know I love the Coug. DJ Highjack, our one black listener. I'm kidding. I'm just fucking kidding. I know because I mailed out all our damn t-shirts this past weekend. And one of them went to Christopher E. E. Mann over there at Brooklyn and I met him in person in the New York episode, and he is 100% black. DJ Highjack said, "Chris will walk in Sean Connery because he can beat up women." Lawrence Fishburne, Jason Stratham? Statham. Statham? Oh, no, R in Kurt Russell. Who would you say-- Oh, where? Most badass people. Oh, wow. I definitely have to go with Bruce Springsteen. I'm going to have to go with Mr. Blond. Yeah. Robert Inglen? Yeah. No doubt. Yeah, I'd also have to throw in Scott Wilson. You know, Scott Wilson is a consummate character actor in this film. He's the guy who plays the-- the-- the-- the-- the-- the-- the entire-- the mentor. --the mentor. This guy was in Cold Blood. I see him. Yeah. And in the heat of the night, in Grissom Gang, and guys-- You know what? Rose Benson is one of those type of dudes. He was the original walk-and-call. OK. Yeah. Yeah. How about-- Good. Let me think of-- you might have to go with-- you know, we were talking about Patrick Schwayze, but-- He's on my list. How about-- --he's number one on my list. Anyone in red don. Well, see Thomas Howl didn't-- you know, he ended up doing that. It's Matt for see Thomas Howl. Yeah. Yeah. Well, um, dude, Schwayze is just-- I mean, my audience expects me to say Van Dam. But David, guys, when you really-- let's be honest about badassness, Schwayze. Schwayze. Because it could-- the dudes are dancing shit. [INDISTINCT] We were talking about David Carradine. Carradine. I think David Carradine. Oh. Clearly. But-- but-- but-- but the-- on all these lists that I saw on our-- on our-- on our forums, there was no Sonny Chiba. If you motherfuckers are listening to this show and you've never seen the Street Fighter, I don't even want-- like, turn this crap off. You're not a geek. You have to see the Street Fighter. He rips the dudes nuts off. It's amazing. It's a great movie. I got to go with James Wan and Danny Bousman. What's their story? Saw. Oh. Saw 1, 2, and 3. Those guys-- those guys gave us a classic franchise. So, I got to give them the nod. You are wanting to disagree with me. Yeah. I can-- Seriously. That's what it's about. Yeah. I just have a problem with the whole gourd. That had a whole genre. Right. But-- But one movie-- That was great. One movie has to epitomize the genre, whether you like the genre or not, one movie is going to come out of there and be the timeless, seminal film. And it was saw. And it was saw. Absolutely. I really agree with you. 15 minutes in turn when I turned it off, because I couldn't take the-- I told him no. He used to be on the bad ass. Yeah. And I didn't turn it off because the girl-- I turned it off because Carrie Ewell's freaking act like-- I'm talking like this, because-- Oh man. --it's like, dude. Can we get done? Princess Bride. The most bad ass film, maybe, ever. That's a great fucking-- Ever. So, Carrie-- Oh, you're right. I would say Takeshi Catano, George McLean, who was my lead in gay by Don-- John McLean. Yeah. John McLean is bad. After Die Hard 4, he's bad ass. And then that dude in Vermont, who shot the cop killer, like DMZ. I saw this dude who cop pulls a guy over. He'd been tired of his stuff. I guess this guy was a repeat offender, sprays him in the face with a bunch of macing crap, and then walks back to his cop car. The guy decides to shoot this cop in the back a couple times, then drive over his body twice, a guy down the street, totally unrelated to the situation, sees this, X-Marine, X-Con, pulls up, takes the dead cop's gun and shoots this drunk driver or whatever, murderer, cop killer, pulls up, has a standoff with him, puts a couple bullets in him, and the judge lets him walk. He killed him. Yeah, he kills this dude. This cop killing dude who shot the cop, drove over him, kills him, and I was like, dude, that dude's bad ass, X-Con, X-Marine, fucking comes on the scene, sees a dude kill a cop, takes him out with a dead cop's gun. That's bad ass, and that's everyday bullshit. That's like something you would do, Ben. Absolutely. I know you would. You wouldn't hesitate, you wouldn't hesitate. Like Swayze. You wouldn't know these things. When the fucking Russians start landing, Swayze goes to the mountains. That's right. So that's our episode, guys. Visit us on MySpace at geekscape.net. I think our MySpace is MySpace.com/geekscapenet. Visit us at geekscape.net. We have t-shirts for sale, but you can't buy the red. This is exclusive. I made it for myself. You can buy black. You can buy green. You can get tote bags. You can get pens. But you can't get the red shirt. Sorry, guys. I'm the guy who dies when we go to the planet. Check out this movie, guys, seriously. You can buy a copy anywhere like Best Buy. Amazon, Best Buy, Target, Circuit City. It's great. It's a lot of fun, especially if you guys love those 80s horror movies. Thank you so much, Scott. Thank you. See you guys next week with our Transformers Reviews.