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Geekscape 20: 14 Year Old Kids In Nebreska

Guest Co-hosts: Comic Book Professionals Skipper Martin and Tone Rodriguez! - Reviews: The Condemned News: A Magneto Film with David Goyer, A Green Arrow Movie? Comics: Skipper's Bizarre New World and getting into the comics industry! Video Games: Tone hates 14 year old kids in Nebraska!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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01 May 2007
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Guest Co-hosts: Comic Book Professionals Skipper Martin and Tone Rodriguez! - Reviews: The Condemned News: A Magneto Film with David Goyer, A Green Arrow Movie? Comics: Skipper's Bizarre New World and getting into the comics industry! Video Games: Tone hates 14 year old kids in Nebraska!!!

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(rock music) - Hey, welcome to episode 20 of Geekscape. For the next 45 minutes, we're gonna be talking about movies, video games, and comics. I'm joined by two of my guests this week. Let's see, in 45 minutes to an hour, we're gonna be tight. And you're gonna see that. But we'll be a lot easier to say, but right now, not so much. Right now, a little shady. Skip Martin, Skipper Martin, and Tona Rodriguez. And we're gonna be talking about their comic. This is your comic book, right, Skip? - Yes, sir. - It's called Bizarre New World. I've got it back and boarded, 'cause I don't fuck around. And this one is available on Comic Bookstore racks right now. - Find a stake. - We'll definitely talk about it. Also, there's gonna be like a free preview on free comic book day, right? - Yes. - Cool. So for you cheap son of a bitches who have been listening to the show for the last 20 episodes, and say, I'm still on the fence about getting into comic books, seems expensive, free comic book day is this coming weekend, and now you're all out of excuses. So definitely check it out. Before we begin, I'd like to just give a shout out to our wonderful sponsor, NetRiver, for taking on our bandwidth, NetRiver.net. Go ahead, check 'em out. If you want those filmmakers out there, I've gotten a great advertisement from our good friend, Punch Cake, off the forums. I'll show it to you guys once the contest is over, but for those of you guys who are filmmakers, go ahead and make an ad. Just include these four facts, fun and knowledgeable staff, best prices on dedicated servers and VPS, rock bottom prices on any shared hosting and $1.95 domain names with shared hosting. As you guys have noticed, when we went over to their servers, the download speed is really, really fast. So if you guys wanna run a really good site, go over to NetRiver.net, set it on account, and you'll be set. Also, if you plug in Brian Gilmore's name, he's off to the side over here. If you type in Gilmore as your promotional code, you get 10% off your order. So that's NetRiver.net. - The man is worth 10%. - I think you're up 10% of a real man. - I think you're up 10% of a real man. - Thank you very much. - It's okay. It's okay. How are you guys doing? This is my pink cup, which is on almost every episode shot here at Laura's place. - I think no less of you, but you're gonna get out of that pink cup. - It's a manly pink cup. - Yes, I can clearly say that. - The origin of the pink cup is that I was always dropping the glass cups and the glass cups were shattering. So I got like a sippy cup now. I've got like a man-sized sippy cup. - You're just missing the handles, like the ones where you can just sit there. - It's kinda like throw shit. Yeah, it's a little thing saying to sit. - Very nice, very nice. - This is my pink teat. What? (laughing) - How much can you take? - Yeah, that's funny. Gilmore putting out my social awkwardness. So guys, we usually start off talking about movies, I went earlier today to see the condemned. People who visited our website have seen that we have a four-part interview going with the cast and director of the condemned at geekscaped.net. What have you guys been watching recently? - I'm a really bad person to ask. Let's start with Tonya now. - Well, we're going to go see the condemned today. That was our plan. We were gonna do this. We're gonna catch up for the buddy of ours. The last film I went to go see, I think was... - Yeah, I'm gonna remember it. It was a death proof. - No, no, no, no, no, no. 'Cause they made me sit through the other one. - Come on now, what did you just see? - Yo, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. No, no, no, you're the guy. You're the guy who likes death proof more than planet terror. - I love death proof. That's number two in the same way. - Look, I wanna hear this. - You guys like death proof more than planet terror. - Oh, no, I wanna hear this. I wanna hear this one. - Explain yourself. - Okay, all right. - The thing is, I am not a very good a person to turn to and go, oh, would you think of this? - What I love is that we've opened the last three episodes talking about a movie that not a lot of people actually saw. - Well, that's crazy. - That's just driving me nuts. People should have gone to see this movie. Maybe they didn't see it because, again, I love all of Rodriguez's and films. I mean, I'm a big, huge fan of Robert Rodriguez. I am not a fan of gore. - And you pussy. - I am. My vagina is like... - Wow. - I hate hate gore films. I don't mind suspense films like Halloween. Oh my God, Halloween is an amazing film. But any of the hacker slash ones that came afterwards, like, you know, all the Jason, or Fry, the 13th ones, or whatever they're calling them. - You're not down. - No, that's a no. - I don't care. I mean, Katie, why don't we kill somebody great? Planet Terror was extremely gory for the sake of being gory. And maybe that's what he planned on doing. - Yes, for the sake of kicking ass. - Yo, kicking. And there's nothing wrong with it. Like I said, I'm not trying to sway anyone's opinion. My thing was, there was just too much popping don't sit gooey, gross stuff. But everything else about it, my thought was great. I mean, there was that scene with the kid in the car with the gut, don't point that at your head, but when the kid that ever seen it in the car. - Oh my God. - It would be you, sick bastard. - You're just taking it out on kids 'cause you can't get with them 50 feet on it. - That was hilarious. - You can't get with them 50 feet of 'em, so now you wanna see it. - And it happened. - So, and then death proof, you guys like being talked out of the theater. - I what? - You like being talked out of the theater? - He has a tendency to get a little wordy and the one scene with the characters in the restaurant, in the camera going around was a bit much fun. It was enough exposition to get all the characters wrapped up. And if it was a regular Quentin Tarantino film where he would have had the two hours to do the whole thing, it would have been fine. You wouldn't have had a problem with it. - So, let's talk, because we were really gonna continue on the good scale wars. - Just one sentence. - I'm so sorry, absolutely everyone in the world. But, John loves me. So, no, but the thing is that it wasn't supposed to be a Quentin Tarantino film. He derived so far away from the theme of the entire two movie experience that, I mean, he paid an homage to all the different revenge films and all these feminism films came out or seven days or whatever. But, really, he needed to, I mean, oh, that's a good shot. But, really, no, he started out with the missing reels and stuff, but eventually it was just a Quentin Tarantino film. A guy writing how he thinks women talk. - Okay, we'll keep-- - And handing it in a month. - Okay, but that being said, you gotta tell me. And, please, I know you gotta agree with me. Quite possibly the best car chase scene in just about any film. - It was a car chase scene. - It was amazing. But, there was other levels to it. First off, it had-- - I just have problems when it's like, dude, stop the car. Some dude's magic against it. - All back that up, all back that up. - Stop the car. Motherfucker, what you gonna do when I run up this hill and shoot it? - That's real, that's real life. - What you gonna do now? - Okay, then that's the end of the movie. - Sure, the movie shouldn't have been made. It was boring. - Oh, my God, first off, we saw the condemned to this movie. - Can we talk about a movie that should have been made? Can we talk about a movie that should have been made? - We didn't even know-- - No, we didn't spoil it. - We're not gonna spoil it. - Oh, we can't spoil it. - Because I'm telling you right now, you cannot have this experience spoiled for you. It, and I'm not just saying that, 'cause these guys gave me four great interviews. - He's coming on school. - But on my side, I'm telling you right now, I was disappointed by Cino Evil. I was disappointed, as you guys know, by the Marine. WWE films us back. This time with Stone Cold Steve Austin, look at them. And they get it right. - Okay. - They get it right. - I agree with you. I think this movie is exactly what they should have in the first time out. No disrespect to the scene. - Oh, my God. (laughing) - I mean, no disrespect to the Marine or to Cino Evil, but the Marine was, wasn't it the first movie that was finished by that whole production company? And they just realized this movie, it's going nowhere. - The problem? - Then they put out Cino Evil. - 'Cause you saw the Marine. - Yeah. - The Cino Evil actually came out first. - Yeah, but I know, but the Marine was done first. That was the first movie that was just, and they were like, we can't, we can't. - It looks like a made for TV movie. - It's brutal. - But that's beside the point. You know, the thing is, you have people in that film that, you know, when you go ahead and you put them in a film, you go, oh, well, this is gonna be great. This is perfect. Everyone's gonna be happy. John Cena, another guy who WWE has on the top of their whole thing. And you think, let's put 'em in a movie and see what happens. Sometimes it just doesn't work. I mean, there's only so many no holds bars you can make. - Right. So I like that that is something else. - So what all I'm saying is, I expect this movie to do very well. I expect this movie to be well received as well. - I think that I don't think it's got a box office impact just based on lack of name. But I think everybody who sees the movie is gonna really enjoy the film. Because it's really for those people who loved the non-benaflic Matt Damon action movies. They like the Steven Seagal action movies. They like the Van Dam action movies. They like the, this is just an action movie for the sake of being an action movie. These are guys acting tough and saying one-liners for the sake of dudes acting tough and saying one-liners. And it works. It was a lot of fun to watch. - Definitely. I don't like a lot of movies. And I, for one, am not a wrestling fan. I'm not a stone, you know, when we met Stone Cold Steve Austin, he was a great guy. And I've always thought, you know, these guys are great performers. It takes a lot of talent to do what they do. I mean, if I took off my shirt and just put on like a Speedo and try to fight guys, like it'd just be a bunch of, you know, like pale slapping against, you know, skin. But it was-- - That's a different film altogether, my friend. - Okay, but this movie was enjoyable. It was, I mean, it had so many moments where you're like, oh my God, that is just so ridiculous. I mean, it's bad dialogue. It's bad dialogue, obviously. Don't go in expecting a good movie, but go in expecting an action-packed thrill ride that is just fun at almost every scene that you have fun. - About halfway through the movie, I turned to Gilmore and I said, you know what, when this comes on on Sunday at USA, I'm clearing my schedule for the next two hours. - Right in the middle of the movie, is that what you said? - 'Cause you know, this is a middle of the day, oh my God, Roadhouse is on, Bloodsport is on. That is what this kind of movie is, and it's really a breath of fresh air from the movies that we get where everything has to be a giant moment, like in Triple X. You know, it's really didn't work. Those movies, they just seem too big. - Yeah, what I like about this movie. - What I like about this movie-- - They have to talk too many people. - What I like about this movie is that it was also very earthy. Like it had, it was just very, it wasn't, let me explain, it wasn't, it wasn't like Triple X. It's a great point. It wasn't just everything's clean, everything's sleek, and everything's really shiny and awesome. Like basically, these are just like people, people on an island just beating the crap out of each other and killing each other. Well, I mean, they're always, no one's wearing any white, no one's like, like if you like, look at all those-- - It was gritty. - Yeah, it was really, well, it was gritty, but it was also earthy. But what I wanted to say-- - You gotta give up on that one. - Yeah, I'm throwing in the towel on the earthy, but it's just a movie that you see, and you're like, you know what, this is a breath of fresh air. I mean, I just saw Grindhouse, I just saw Hot Fuzz, and I just saw this. - What'd you think of Hot Fuzz? - I loved Hot Fuzz. John didn't like it. - I thought it was funny, I just got it. I thought it went overstated, it's welcome. - I did not think that at all, what did-- - I love Hot Fuzz. - Don't, don't, don't. - I did not see the movie, I can't comment. - I had an extra 30 minutes to it, it felt a little bad. - An extra 30 minutes, the last 30 minutes were the best part. It gave me one of those fucking am moments, like when he was-- - The camera went shaking, he said no, no, no, no. - When he was suiting up, and it was just so awesome, like you were waiting for that the entire-- - Don't worry, you're out of line. - It was so good. - You guys agree with me, it was good. - I mean, dude, I love Edgar Wright and Simon Pegg, and I'll see every one of their movies opening weekend, but that one just fell a little long to me. This movie, it threatened to do it after everything seemed to be wrapped up with the game. Basically, the movie is about these 10 prisoners pulled off of all sorts of places around the world, put on death row, they're on death row, they get put on this island by a dude who's running a game online, you know, it's kind of a snuff film, and they have to fight each other, sort of most dangerous game, Battle Royale style, and the last one after 30 hours gets his freedom. And of course, things go wrong, 'cause you've got many Jones and Stone Cold Austin in it, and that's why things go wrong. - I have a question. - Question. - I have a question, I remember Battle Royale, they had-- - Hey, they're so strong. - Thank you very much. I had-- - It's from the fucking-- (laughing) - From the-- - From the-- - Some of the corksal friction. (laughing) I, no, no, I lost my-- Oh yeah, Battle Royale, they had explosive stress to them. - Right, it was around their necks though, yeah. Did they have a certain range in the island? Like if they went past a certain range, could they go anywhere in the island? - The thing with Battle Royale was, there were different sectors, and they would randomly activate at any time, and you had five minutes to get out of that sector before all the colors in that sector got off. That way you couldn't just camp out. - But there was no out of bounds. - No out of bounds. - Okay, I think that was the people within the movie, that was their main thought, they should have made it. - And also that one wasn't televised, this was televised, and the one strength of the script, it gets a little preachy at point, but the one strength of it was that there was a little more substance there than just an action movie, there was a little more-- - But it was like really thing substance. - But they were definitely going for the idea that, are we the condemned? Because we love this stuff, and we're-- - Should we be watching? - Very, very deep. - I mean, here's the thing, when I'm two days late on an episode, all I get is motherfuckers on the forum being like, where's my mother fucking episode? You are the condemned you sons of bitches, you're condemned to be tied to this damn show, every damn week, like a drug, and I love you for it. - By the way, I'd like to publicly state, tone is a liar. - Why is that, what? - Because that's not the last movie he saw. - No, I'm a little bit offended. - I forgot, when you brought that up, I was gonna add to that. - Man snake bone? - But we've kind of gotten so far away, man snake bone. - Man snake bone, man snake black man bone. - No, no, no. - For the record, no. - No, no, no. - What'd you say? - We saw Smokey and the Bandit. - How was that? - Oh, dude, I love Smokey and the Bandit. It was one of the reasons why I was gonna get to it, because I was gonna cover the whole thing going back to the death proof. - Right. - Was, I mean, that movie in a hat, a few scenes in it were, I'd felt like it was a tip of the hat to a bunch of films around the '70s and '80s, I loved. - Like Smokey and the Bandit. - And it was, it was, but that's why, around the end, when it started turning into a Quentin Tarantino movie, and they didn't even have the grainy film anymore. - Yeah, notice that it got awfully clean there near the end. - I think at the end, I mean, he just bent over and took it. He's like, you know what, here, take it audience. It's a Quentin Tarantino movie, deal with it. - Well, let's segue into news on that one. All I gotta say is that the condemned is a lot of fun. If you guys go with Matt and A, you're gonna enjoy it. If you rent it, you're gonna enjoy it. But it's not worth, don't expect Spider-Man 3, but-- - Right, it's not worth-- - I don't think it's worth a 10 bucks, but it's definitely worth the six bucks, Matt and A. - Definitely. - Super action. - So good. - You know how I love my super action films? - Hang on, by the way, we didn't just pop in the DVD. Universal was doing an archival screening of some kind. - So Smokey and the Bandit? - Yeah, it was up on the big screen. - It's not like we watched at the house. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Oh yeah. - We did that in theater. That was different. - So we were talking about Quentin Tarantino, the Weinstein's have this new deal where they're gonna be producing, distributing, and marketing a bunch of Hong Kong Asian themed films. One of them is a martial arts film. It's a remake of a movie called Come Drink With Me. They've got Quentin Tarantino directing it. So that hit the news this week. It's a remake, so it's not one of his original stories. And what do you have thoughts on the guy? - A nose diet. - You are, you need to be quiet. I am sick of V.J. in my audience being held hostage with the fans over to you. All right, buddy, come sit on their lap if you want to be part of this conversation. - Go. - You will later. - Oh, we're gonna go to Quentin Tarantino. - I love Quentin Tarantino. - Yeah, we all do. - Yeah, but I mean, I don't know anything about this. I mean, you're hitting me with it. I don't know anything about it. I'm sure that turned up some way. But yeah, I mean, you know what? If he puts out a movie, I'll go see it. I'm not gonna go see a movie that he just laps his name on. It says Quentin Tarantino presents. Like, what was that? - Hostile. Was it Hostile? - Well, he did that. He did Hostile wanting to. Iron Monkey was kind of his video description. I love Iron Monkey. - But there's another one that I remember specifically. And the movie was made before he ever got involved with it. - Was it "Chunk King Express"? - Was it "Hero" or "Iron Monk"? 'Cause I know he did that one. - I can't remember which one. - I thought it was "Hero". But it really, but, oh no, "Hero" was, 'cause see, I saw "Hero". I wanna say about eight months before they had the feature release here in the States. I've got a friend who picks up, you know, DVDs from, you know, Hong Kong. - Sells him downtown on a little card table. - No, no, no, no. Well, he's the guy who buys him from the guy who sells him from the guy downtown. But he, we, I saw that movie months and months and not like, eight, easy. And when I saw the film, I mean, I thought it was great and I kept turning to everybody. Oh, this movie's great, this movie's great. Then all of a sudden they go ahead and they, Quentin Tarantino presents and you kind of bummed down 'cause you're like, he had nothing to do with this. - Like let it stand on his own. - But they, but they wanted people to go to the movies based on his name, which was fine. I just felt that it was kind of greasy. That was just kind of not cool. - Unlike your hands, go more. So let's talk something that you guys do know about. And that's comic book news. David Goyer is developing and possibly directing a Magneto feature film. - I heard he was directing. - Gilmore heard he was directing. Skiver, you heard that he was directing. It's where I could swear I read it on Dark Horizons. - Right. - Yeah, definitely. And he's not gonna start it until Wolverine raps, I heard. - Yeah, are we ever, like between you guys, are we ever gonna see these films? Are we, I mean, the Wolverine film, I think it's gone into casting for the additional roles. Are we ever gonna see like a Magneto feature film? And should we see a Magneto feature film? - I'm probably the worst person to ask for something like that. But I tend to find that movies like that that you build up with some kind of expectation. To me, a really great example, and this is gonna hurt Catwoman, was one of those movies that started off, I think we started hearing about it in like '92 or '93. - Right, right about it, Michelle. - Yeah. - And then it's, you know, over the years morphed into something else, and by the time it actually came out, it was something so different that it was terrible. Sorry. (laughs) These kinds of movies are being dragged out for so long that by the time we actually see them, are they even gonna be remotely worth the hype? And honestly, I doubt it. - Right. - I miss going to the movies just to go to the movies. I, now with the internet and all this, you know, I mean, I've been talking about this just recently. You don't, there's no way of like knowing, or not knowing about a movie that's coming out. When they go ahead and say, "We're gonna do a Fantastic Four movie," you know about it 22 months before the movie ever shows its first trailer. I mean, I-- - The minute the deal is struck you here, right? - I mean, I, to be very honest with you, I mean, I'm an old man, but I went to go see Terminator 2, and I can honestly say I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know Terminator 2 was coming out. One day we were at home, it was a Friday night. Somebody said, "Let's go to the drive-in. What are they showing?" And I think it was a double feature of the latest Dirty Harry film and Terminator 2. And so, again, I mean, I was a huge fan of the first film, but I didn't have any, I didn't know going to the movies, like, "Well, we're gonna go see Terminator 2." We just went to the movies, and that movie just happened to be there. I missed those days, like Star Wars. I mean, I think I saw one commercial Star Wars before I saw the movie. - The original Star Wars. - The original Star Wars, yeah. I'm an old man, I keep telling. - You don't look it. - Yeah. - You wear it well. - So, yeah, no, I don't. But, you know, maybe people say they're surprised, and I'm just, I'm always kind of like confused with the compliment because-- - What the fuck are you making yourself like Mr. fucking Miyagi? That's just not true? - Oh, Daniel's son. - Oh, no. But, no, my problem is it's like, so what do I-- - I mean, dude, you must have been seven. - Do I act the mature? - Were you seven? - No, I was 10. - When it came out? Okay, so you were born in '67. - '68. - That ain't no thing. - Well, I'm just saying, you know, but my thing is, do I act the mature? Is that why people are surprised when they say I'm an old man? - No. (laughs) - I don't think it's old. - It's a youthful energy. - I think it's a youthful energy. Dude, don't even tempt that motherfucker with a microphone. He will fucking Shanghai take over this fucking show. - Okay, but that was my only point. My only point is I miss the days when you-- What is it, Star Wars? Let's go see Star Wars, you know? - I remember seeing "Breakdown" without ever hearing about it. Or sometimes when a movie comes through and you don't really-- You aren't really expecting too much out of it and you decide not to see it, but then you're sitting around on a Saturday, nothing better to do, and you end up going to see it. Sometimes you get more out of that. I recently saw "Disturbia" just 'cause I had some time to blow, and that was the one that just came out, and I enjoyed it. It wasn't enough to go talk about, but I enjoyed it, I thought it was fine. - I'll wait along those lines 'cause I remember back in '90, I don't remember when it came out, some Jeremy Irons movie that I don't remember being very good called "Dead Ringers." I think we're talking late '80s, early '90s, and I remember vividly, the only good thing about that movie was "The Trailer," which I didn't, again, speaking along "Tones Lines." I had no pre-hype, no idea it was even being made, and you guys, if you're old enough to remember, sitting in a theater and having no idea what the preview was gonna be, because that was gonna be your first, any kind of information about this. - Well, I wish I had known more than taking my parents to see "Boogie Nights" on Parents Weekend. - Oh, well, fair enough, fair enough. - Oh, my God, you saw that with your parents? - Well, I mean, yeah, our listeners, though, I told the story a couple times. I told the story a couple times. It was Parents Weekend and I was like, "Hey, this thing got a lot of really good reviews." - Oh, my God, that's funny. - The porn industry. - So I saw Howard Stern's "Private Parts" with "My Mom," actually. - Oh, but that was a whee lad. - Well, speak of the comments that make me feel old. - Yeah, no. - A hard part of the whee lad. - Speaking of going once, I can do a fifth shot. "Dead Ringers" was not a very good movie, but the best part about seeing "Dead Ringers" was "The Trailer" to "The Fly 2." - Wow, which was not very, that was Eric Stoltz, right? - That was Eric Stoltz, but, you know, all I knew was how great "The Fly" was and in the middle of seeing a movie that I had no interest in seeing. - "The Fly 2." - "The Fly 2." - "The Fly 2 trailer came out of it, but the trailer was great." - Right. - There was all this excitement. I didn't have some blurb from "The Hollywood Reporter." It's only me that it was in production or something like that. - I would love to see. I would love to see a movie like that, made it again, where somebody gets, you know. You know what, watching the condemned, I was like, "You know what, a great movie?" People on "Death Row" forced to fight giant fucking insects in an arena. We need more movies like that. You know, more "Ray Harry" has and type stuff. That doesn't-- - You talk about that while you're on the movie? - Yeah. - That's not a good sign of the movie. - Not a good sign of the movie. - No, it's fine. - When you're in a movie-- - I wanna see more-- - 'Cause it's for a test that you're watching. - No, you know. - Oh no, I disagree. I'm just saying that if you're sitting there thinking about, "I'm gonna have mission, Pop-Tire." - Get out of here. - The problem is, you're obviously not enjoying the movie and you're being seen distracted by something else. - The problem is telling that as a director, you're always detached from the film. - I'll never be in a place again where I don't see the shots, where I don't see the lighting setups, where I don't see everybody behind the camera. I mean-- - This is very interesting that you're denying yourself. - That's always the same problem. You're doing the same thing I do. But on a different thing, I draw comic books. And he's always asking me, "So what are you reading?" And I don't read any comic books. - Right. - I don't wanna look at 'em, I don't wanna see 'em. Maybe I'll go to the shop and I'll kinda like peruse the shelf, but I don't read 'em, I don't go-- - I have a problem dealing with it, I really do. - Yeah, well, I love movies, but when I see them-- - And I can't-- - I always think, okay, when they cut back to where that was definitely a different take. - Wow. - I mean, I've ruined movies for myself 100%. So when I'm sitting in 'em, all I can think about is that was a bad dub, that was a this, that was, you know, there's a teamster standing right off camera holding that light, you know, when they picked that up, they definitely got it handed to 'em by a PA off camera. You know? - I mean, you could ruin the movie, but that being said, the movie is great, I really enjoyed the movie. And so, stay on the comic book theme. You go here's Green Arrow, there's a rumor that it would be Matt Damon, what the fuck is that about? - Don't buy it for a minute. - Dude, I don't buy it either. I don't even buy that they're ever gonna make a Green Arrow film, how could they make a Green Arrow film that wasn't men and tights? You know what I mean? Remember that the film, remember Robin Hood men and tights? I mean, dude, a Green Arrow movie, who would take that seriously? - Well, I mean, they took it seriously on the-- - Smallville. - Smallville, but I mean, the thing is they go ahead and they try stuff out like that on those TV shows. And if it takes off, then they're gonna go ahead and go, well, you see, we got ourselves a million dollar deal or do they, and they're gonna attach whoever they want to. - The Wonder Woman movie, are we gonna see the Wonder Woman movie ever? - I'm gonna wait. - I would go see it, but-- - They just got asked, I heard. - Our Hollywood insider over here, Brian Gilmour, everybody. - Well, no, no, no, I did hear-- - Brian Gilmour, writer of Variety. - I did hear that Wonder Woman just got asked recently. - Well, I mean, they fired Joss Whedon. - Well, yeah, Joss Whedon was really bummed about it. - This is what I read. - Yeah. And just not, yeah, I'm kind of turning into, I mean, I'm looking forward to all the movies this summer. I live for that stuff, but Wonder Woman movie, a Green Arrow movie, it's just not that interesting much. - It's getting to even a Green Lantern movie. - It's getting too much. Do you really think that they should start making all these lesser-known comic books? - If they treat them right, you can find a great movie and everything. I think you could write, directing an Ant-Man movie would be brilliant. And he's the guy that they supposedly have to direct the Ant-Man movie. Now you've got a crap-ass character who you could care less about, Ant-Man. But in the hands of Edgar Wright, all of a sudden it's a really great movie. You know what I mean? I mean, in any character, I bet you could take Speedball and put him in the hands of a really good director who's gonna take it and make it his own. Not a generic hack. I mean, the problem is, you've had a lot of these comic book movies end up in the hands of generics. - Well, not only that, but a lot of them, I mean, you know, I guess they have to be, but they end up being origin stories. I mean, they're all just basically focusing on the fact that these people are superheroes instead of going a little deeper and making just, let's tell a great story with people that happen to go through something that makes them a superhero. - Whenever you see things like, whenever Fantastic Four comes out, nobody's in everybody's not very happy about it. And you always hear people saying, yeah, well, the sequel's gonna be great because we don't have to deal with the origin story. We don't have to be slowed down by the origin story. We don't have to, you know, it's always an origin story. It's always someone learning to be a hero. It's always someone saying, okay, the stakes are higher. Am I still this person? Am I still this person? It's always growing. - This is an interesting thing that you brought up because of a movie like Spider-Man. Everyone has literally seen Spider-Man, yet when Spider-Man two started, when the movie started, when you watched the trailer, or the trailer-- - The pre, Alex Ross's artwork. - Well, that's fine, but it gives you like the setup for what happened in the first movie. And they're always gonna treat the second and third movie for those people who may not have seen the first movie. - They have to. - And they will. They will always do it. They're gonna do it. Anything that they need to basically do an exposition to basically catch everyone up, they're gonna do it. And I have a problem with people talking down to me. Don't talk down to me. - I think they did it in a very classy way on Spider-Man two. - No, it's Spider-Man two. I think that that was the best way to do it. But they are still gonna go ahead, and I'm sure they'll do the same kind of thing for the next movie. They're gonna go ahead and go, "Well, we've only sold 30 billion DVDs, and only 50 billion people went and saw the movie, but how are we gonna catch those people who didn't see it?" Well, you know what? Fuck those people who didn't see it first. - They were probably born in the last three years. - They were not gonna catch up with it eventually. Just make a decent movie, and let me enjoy it. Don't dumb it down. Don't play to the lowest common denominator. I mean, even with the Lord of the Rings films, I have a real hard problem with that first film, 'cause that first movie just ends like shit. And a movie needs to basically give you the middle beginning and end, and if it continues, that's fine, but you still need to have some sort of resolution at the end of the story. Otherwise, it's a bad film in my opinion. That's just my opinion. - No, no, it's cool. - But what was the other thing? I was gonna say about the movies. Even the whole idea, it's like we're sitting here talking about movies that aren't gonna come out until the middle of summer, and that's born in Spider-Man. I'm gonna wait until the movie's open, and I'll get excited for a day and a half, maybe. But building up, building up, and I know a lot of people do that. A lot of people do that. - It's our show. - Oh, I know people build their entire lives around. I got shit. - It's our audience. - I got shit to do. I'll catch up with you guys in line. When you guys have just been sitting there for an hour and a half and two hours, I'll just sweep light in on Friday morning or something. - Just to back that up, by the way, I've been with him, and I'd ask him, "So, man, are you really excited?" Listen, I'll see you. Sometimes when I'm watching the trailers, I forget what movie we're watching, and I'll turn to Muggle. What were we here to see? - Well, next episode, we're gonna go check it out, Ben Dunn from the forums, Gilmore and I, and we're gonna actually sit and hit up a line. - Yeah, we're gonna do something after there's anything. - And I'm gonna bring the camera, and maybe we'll interview some of the people in line for you guys to see just the people, unlike Tone, who get really fucking amped up. People like you, what does get you excited, and we can segue into your work, skip with your comic, Bizarre New World. What does get you guys excited as creators? - For me personally, Bizarre New World's obviously my first book, and-- - This is the book that you wrote. - Yay! - And I must say, your slip is showing. - Oh, here it comes. - Motherfucker, this is you. Straight up, like, don't be changing his name. Don't be like, "Oh, I've never worn a red hat." - That's right. - The red hat is actually right there. And what I like too is, you look like a hard motherfucker right there. But look at you now, look at you now, look at you now. - It's the same, it's the same everything. - Yeah, you're just serious here, look at you. - No, there's a reason behind the picture, but-- - Paul-- - Let's talk about what the book's about. - Sure. - And then tell me about it. - To answer your question about exciting, I'll get to that in a second, but on the very back, you'll see the very first sketch ever done for the book. - This is what I read. - Yeah, and back in, oh god, 2005. October 2005, if I can go way back into 1999, I had the very first idea. - Set up the way back, machine. - Way back when, let's go into the boring origin that everyone tries to skip, it's way back in '99, when I first had the idea of what would happen if a guy could fly a regular guy. Not a superhero, just what would happen-- - No heroes, no longer before that. - Well, that's the joke. Now it's always compared to heroes, but I hatched the whole plot and scheme. Back in '99, and then wrote it in October 2005, I finally got business, I wanna try something. - After procrastinating, mulling it over your head. - Well, the biggest problem was, and you'll find this in the story, I was really hung up on the idea on, what would, well, how does he do it? I got it, all right, so, is it a magic spell? - A video in my head here. - Yeah, I mean, there's just, I hated the idea, and every time, okay, well, I gotta come up with something that, you know, some kind of catalyst. - 'Cause the way it happens in the book, he's at work, and it just happens. The dude just ends up lifting himself up out of his chair and being like, what the hell? And then he slowly starts piecing it together. - Well, the problem was, I needed some real reason, some big, concrete reason to make it believable. The problem is it's not believable in that concept. - Well, it'll never be believable, and I can't write it if I don't believe it. So for the longest time, for what, since seven years, six years. For six years, I kept, I love the idea, I had so many, as you see, as the story goes along, there, it goes to a different place, and I had this whole thing worked out that I was just so excited about, 'cause I just loved the concept, loved the idea. And then it was, and then it was, all right, I've got all these great ideas, but I need to figure out how he flies, what am I gonna do? - Do you think you were psyching yourself out of writing it? - No, I wasn't doing that at all, it was just-- - What do you afraid of? - Thanks, man. What I'm afraid of, I wanted it to make sense. - 'Cause when I go to a movie, I look up and go, "That is crap, I don't buy it from it." - You get a lot of stuff when you walk into a comic store, 'cause you guys are published independently by the fine folks at Ape Entertainment. - At Ape Entertainment, but you go in and you see the Marvel, you see the DC, you see the image, you see the dark horse, and then you have all these indie books when you walk into a comic store, and you really gotta, I mean, everybody can publish their own book, but for you to last, you've gotta have all this stuff bought out, and you really have to have a solid story, or you're gonna get buried by the Marvel, the DC, the image, the dark horse. You know, how are you gonna even compete? Get that stuff off, but you've really thought this out is what you're saying, like for six years, you really thought it out, and just from having read the episode, the series, let me tell you that that first issue, it shows. - Oh, well thank you. - Well, I mean, one of the problems, if I can take over for two seconds, one of the problems is that I've read a lot of people saying, "Hey, here's my indie book," and they try and cram it all in there. Even on books that are published by Wildstorm, you get these first newcomers to comic books, and they cram. A lot of it's exposition, a lot of it's action, they try and sell the reader right away. You know what I mean? They try and say that this book has all the bells and whistles, and I can write like Ed Brewbaker and Brian Buck. - Let me see, there's this double-edged sword, and if I could be totally honest. - It hurts the book, I mean. - I was told day one, no, not day one, but very early on, because I'm always looking for input. And when I asked one of the guys from Ape Entertainment, David Hedgecock, after he had signed me and we were moving on down the track, now the book was already into production, and he had already seen, I think, the entire first issue, and we're so honored to go. The artist is Christopher Provence out of Canada, and colored by West Joba, and both did a beautiful job. When they got to see the first issue, I said, all right, David, tear it apart. I'd rather hear you tear it apart than some jerk on a message board. Lay into me, let me have it, what's wrong, 'cause I got plenty of time to fix it. He said, well, if you honestly wanna know, you don't have the big moment in your first issue. Where's the big, big moment? And he was right, there wasn't a big moment, because the story does have its own build. - You pace it, you don't try and cram everything in there. - I tried not to do it. - You pace it, when your character, who I'm just calling Skipper, 'cause another fucker, let's be honest. - Paul, no. - I know, I know. - His name is Paul. - When he comes up out of his chair, and he's floating up there, you have that moment, almost like a Buster Keaton or Charlie Chaplin, where it's silent, but the acting, the quote-unquote acting is, okay, I'm on the ceiling. I gotta get back to my chair. What are the steps of me doing this? Whereas, I mean, sometimes in these books, you would have something explained in one or two panels. You take your time with this. In doing so, you allow us to get to know Paul a little better. He's not some dude just right out of the police academy, I'm ready to save the world. He basically does what you do. - Well, you don't really quick if you don't mind me pulling on it. - Yeah, no, go on it. - I did the same thing with Dave, and I wanna say Brent, it's like, I turn on this like skip. This is cool, I kinda like the concept, but nothing really happens, 'cause again, I'm so used to the old school comic books, 'cause it's like, this happens, this happens, and this leads to this, and this is why we wrap up the book. And Skip says, I wanna do it this way. And I went ahead and I said, skip. - You're asking a lot of the audience to have face- - That's not, yeah, this isn't how we do things, and I know that's how you wanna do it, but- - This is my world. - Yeah, and that's what happened, and I told him, it's like, look, we really gotta do this. And he stuck to his guns, and you know what? I gotta admit that I think he was right all along. - 'Cause you're, how many issues do you have now? - First one's out, but- - Sorry, sorry, sorry. - There was intended to be a four issue mini-series. My biggest problem with it, she number one, and he's- - If something happens, sorry. - Are you saying at the end? - Like, after issue one, issue two, three, four, we get the meat, we get what he's got to do. - Oh yeah, it's absolutely, by the end of the mini-series. Okay. - Issue one is an order. - Right, issue one. - Two, three, and four, your shit's gonna get blown. - You've got like a seven-course meal in front of you. This is just a tasty- - I like shrimp. - By the time you get to issue three, and I beg and plead of the audience, even if you just happen to walk into a store and you weren't even sure, maybe I should pick up three or not. Pick up issue three, and you know what? Go ahead, spoiler for yourself, skip to the end. I'm not gonna do it right now. It does have a point, it does get somewhere. And put it this way, the idea was so interesting to me, back in 1999, the very first concept I had, oh, what would it be like if I could fly? Ooh, it'd be cold up there, you know, stupid. - And these are the things that your character discovers slow. - Yes, it's just figuring it out, and that's really where it started from. And those are fun, and I had a lot of fun writing that stuff, but that's not why I did the book. By the end of issue three- - Good to get babes. (laughing) - Well, it hasn't worked yet. But at the end of issue three, you'll find why I cared, why I asked you guys to pick it up, why I put the money to make the darn thing, why I went to Tone Rodriguez, I called him up. - 'Cause he did an alternate cover, right, Tone? - He did the alternate cover, the limited cover. - The one that I have right here. - Yes, you have that one, the Superman homage. And Tone's involvement was simply, I knew him back in 1993, and I used to go to his store. - Yeah, I don't tell him what to image, but I do have to image. - Yeah, we can't say anything. - Shh, shh, shh, shh. - Well, just if she didn't image, it's all. - Way back when? - In Tone, your credentials are Violet Messiah. You did, we'll talk about some of the books real quick so that people can get cut up. - Mommy size, the Snake Pluskin Chronicles. - Which I loved. - Oh, good, great. - Dude, I loved it. - Oh, rock on. - Dude. - I, yeah, it was cool. - Oh, real quick, real quick, real quick. Snake Pluskin from, escaped from New York, escaped from LA. They did a comic book series where he went to Atlantic City in that same world, and you drew that. - Yeah, so I just grew it. - And they're never gonna, I mean, with Debra Hill, I mean, the sad thing is that Debra Hill, John Carpenter's longtime partner in producing, she died, and she was part of the book, wasn't she? - Yeah, she, well, she, we worked closer to her than we worked with John at Kurt, but they were all involved, so we worked with-- - Debra Hill, yeah. - Worked with John, and Debra was the ringleader. She, I mean, she really was the backbone of Snake World. Snake World was the company that Debra and John and Kurt collectively did a new Snake stuff with. - Yeah, and she got sick. - She got, yeah, she, you know, she got really, really ill, she dropped a lot, a lot away, and it turned out that she had some, like colon cancer. - Oh my God. - And it just, by the time that everything, I mean, she just kind of fell in the face of the earth, and I think her housekeeper found her and got her to the hospital, and it was a real horrible ordeal, I didn't get to see her in the hospital. We kind of had, can we get into this? - No, I mean, I mean, yeah. - It's not a long story, it's an involved story. - For those of you guys, go back to your favorite John Carpenter movies, and look on the credits. Debra Hill, those movies wouldn't be in front of your eyes if it wasn't for this woman. - The font. - Literally, your favorite ones. Escape from New York, The Thing, Halloween. I mean, she was the person who was-- - The vlog is my-- - Involved. - Right. - You just love that film. - And-- - I saw that in the theater. - So, those were some of your credits, and again, coming back to you, Skipper? - Yes. - His involvement in the book. - I went to a guy named Blurmarnell, who used to do the column All The Rage for SBC, I believe, and I had met him before, and he was my only connection to comic books outside of every now and then walking in the store. And I called him up one day and said, "Listen, can I come over?" I got, this was probably October 6th, probably the day after I said, "I am going to make my book." But this is-- - I actually, before I was even going-- - I'm oddly enough, he did that. - Yeah, I usually do that. - Ah, hell, hell, hell, hell. - There's a security video of him in 7-11. I shall prove it anymore. - This is what-- - This is what the-- - He had to counter just like-- - So say it for a gun. - What had happened was very simple. I didn't know-- - We don't okay on time, V.J.? - Okay. - I didn't know what it was gonna be. All I knew was I really wanna do this flying guy thing. So, I went to Blurmarnell and said, "I've got this very loose idea, A, B, C." And I gave him all these things that I'd been thinking about for the last five or six years 'cause, man, that would make a really great comic book. Funny, you should mention that, Blair. That's what I'm thinking about. He's all, "Well, you need to get an artist, that's the hard part." I said, "Man, I'd love to find Tone Rodriguez." He goes, "How do you know Tone?" I knew him back in '93, I have no idea where he is now. I know he did Snake Pliskin' 'cause I bought the DVD. But who knows where he is now? And he goes, "I got his card." I called Tone up and I said, "Hey, man, you don't probably remember my voice, but I'm gonna be really offended if you don't." I got two original Tone Rodriguez drawings on my wall. Who am I? And he went, "You're full of shit. You're full of shit. You don't have two Rodriguez's on your wall." And I said, "Yes, I do." He goes, "No, you don't." - I don't sell any of my art. - I have all of my art. You don't have any of my art on your wall. - I only started this year. So there are a few pieces out there, but there was like no way he had two of my pieces. It's impossible. - Cut back to like '94 and you're in like a ski mask crawling into this building and stealing his artwork. - Now once he figured out who I was skipping. - Yeah, anyway, I called out from the past. - Yeah, and I called him and said, "Please, I need to talk to you." So we sat down and said, "I got this big idea." And I sat down and gave him the pitch. He goes, "This is really great." - The dog is dying on us. - Hank, it's okay. They're behind the dog. So they're a little freaked out. - And I proceeded to try to talk him out of it. - Yes, he did. - Hank has a column book actually that-- - Yeah, that's coming into his way. - Now, I go to Tone, I gave him the whole pitch and he's like, "This is really great. "Are you sure you want to do that, man? "That's a big thing and blah, blah, blah." - It's expensive to self-publish and all that. - It's not just that. I didn't even really have a plan to publish it. I had no idea what I was going to do with it. All I knew was I wanted to tell, by the end of issue three, it gets to a point and you'll see it. And I wanted to get over the hurdle and get to there. - Sorry, I wanted to get to that spot. And I had no idea if I could even get it in the stores at that point. Tone, in his infinite wisdom, saw that I was nuts. And he was like, "Well, you gotta work on that." And that was kind of it. I'm kind of busy right now. And he wasn't mean about it, but I felt the vibe. And I was like, "Well, I need to develop this. "Can you help me?" He goes, "Yeah, you should go out there "and kind of develop it yourself "and come back to me when you have something." - Right. - Fine, so I leave about three weeks later. I got a plot, I got it, I got it. I think this will tell me. And as I'm sitting there giving him the entire plot, which eventually became Azar New World, he's off in the corner drawing and that's what he drew. - Well, the back of issue one, the sketch. And it was the first time I'd actually gotten to see the character and all I told Tone was, he's loosely based on me. You know, that's all I said. He's loosely based on me and that's what he came up with and that's where Paul came from. From there, once I had that drawing-- - What I like is that it's a picture of a dude with an oh shit look on his face. - That's all I mean. - It's like the first time that he's flying, he's got this look on his face like, "Oh shit." - He just says loads. - Everything, that's exactly what we were looking for. We wanted a regular guy and how would he deal with it? And I'm not going to explain it. And since I'm not going to explain it, of course he has no idea where it came from. Of course he's gonna freak the hell out. And Tone picked up on that and literally put a regular guy in the clouds freaking out. Perfect, that image, I then sent to a bunch of my friends who are like, "Remember that story I was telling you about? "This is what I'm talking about doing." That's it, that's amazing. I said, "Well, I'm moving forward." And through Tone, he mentioned digital webbing. - Yeah, I love digital webbing. - That led to Christopher Vanche. - Digitalwebbing.com for a lot of our audience members. They want to be writers, they want to be artists. That's a great place to meet other, want to be professionals and start collaborating. - And that's where-- - I can honestly say I've met no one from there. - You know what, I've had a couple people, I know. - 'Cause unless it's porn, I'm not looking at it on the computer. - He doesn't go to movies, he's on the computer. (laughing) - You're just like, I made a whistle out of this-- - The horror's femur. (laughing) - I'm seeing the pattern here. - He's just like in his apartment. I'm just like, "Phew!" - You want your leg back, please? Just let me go. - That's terrible, that's just mean. - All right, well, back on target. - Yeah. - In a nutshell. - Let me get the press. - I think Gilmour's life right there. - We start moving forward and the Gilmour did. We start moving forward with a book called "Girl Girl." - And he and Will Wilson took me to ape entertainment. I'm completely going, but-- - No, keep going. - Keep going, keep going. Someone has to keep this shit on track. - I, Tone and Will Wilson got me to ape entertainment and then the book is obviously on the shelves. Tone came back to do a backup story for issue number two and three and he shocked the hell out of me by actually writing it too. And it was his very first writing credit. So issues two and three will have backup stories by that guy over there. - I still want to see the fact that it's the first story I've ever written. - I love saying that, he's first writing it. - My book. - There's no writing in it at all. It's like-- - That's the joke. - What is the next, I mean, what's the next work that you're going to work on, Tone? - Me? - Yeah. - Well, I'm doing the second story for his book and oddly enough it's a story about a little Mexican kid in-- - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's all you're going to get. That's all you're going to get. That's all you're going to get. - That's it, no more, no more. - So if you want to find out what happens when you sell chiclets on the streets and then something amazing happens to you. - June, I-- - You're going to have to-- - Man! - Hey, hey, mine meld, mine meld, high five. - Okay, I almost did. - That's a mine meld, baby. - Hey, hey, pseudo weird ethnic from taxes? That's Tone and I. - You'll see what happens. - You'll see what happens. So Bazaar in your world. - Where can we find your book? 'Cause I know a lot of people have smaller, but I know a lot of-- Well, yeah, I know, but a lot of stores aren't as good as cats and a lot of people-- - Is there a website? - I know a lot of people are trying to find books that are more obscure and they can't find them. Where can we find it? First off, bazarneworld.com has pretty much everything you're going to need to know about the book. When it comes to buying it at the moment, it's in comic book stores and it's in previews right now. - Get it out in the truck. - Yeah, we'll get you a copy, right? - There's a trunk sale going there. - Pretty much. What had happened was it was intended to come out May 9th. There was this big promotional that was 2,400 copies of the book were going to go to 2,400 stores. - Because I believed so much in the product that I was hoping that a store would get it, look at it, hey, I'll throw you a bone and buy a few. That didn't happen. Some mix up with the distributor. The book actually got delivered to anybody who ordered it. So if you're a store that ordered 10 copies, you got 10 copies of "Tones Cover" three weeks early. - Wow. - So that's why it's on the shelves right this second. - And that's why I got it. - That's why you have it. But the real book, the regular cover comes out May 9th and then it's monthly made you in July and it'll be in your stores for now. I would say-- - Free comic book thing. - Free comic book day is next week as you know. There's a-- - Since it's coming weekend. - It's coming weekend. - Or fifth. - Yep, and I came and begged "Tone" to come back and do a short story and I was very happy to see "Tone" kind of do-- In other words, I went to "Tone" first and "Tone" was literally going to do the first thing that was going to hit the shelves. So I got to have "Tone" do the very first story that people were going to see. Didn't work out that way. Now you can go buy issue one. So now the second thing that hits the shelves is "Tones." By the way, I just saw it came out beautiful and it's a five-pager in eight entertainments, free comic book day spectacular. I think that's what it's called. - So let's move from comic books into video games. I don't know how big a video game freaks you guys are, but I myself have just been playing Crackdown Nonstop. I've been really busy. I just handed in the script for the WWE DS game. It's about all I can tell you guys on that one. Hopefully there'll be more writing to come very soon. Knock on wood, but it's a good sign. Yeah, do you guys play games? Have you guys played a bunch of games? I'm worried that he doesn't play games. - This is going to be so funny. Why don't you start "Tone"? - Yeah, go for a "Tone". - He's like the lawn mower man. (laughing) - No, you don't, I do like video games. I don't spend time playing them. I can't, I don't have time for it. I got point on computer. I got stuff I got to get to. - It's just constant artwork in mid-line. - No, you know-- - I thought that replaces all mediums for you. (laughing) - Not just mediums. - Well, you want to go to the movies, but I got porn on computer. - It's like, sorry. - Hey, hey, sweetie, you want to go to the love show? - Sorry, baby, my live wire is working overtime today. - All right, got computer porn. No, you know what I do. - Sorry, a little too much Persian kitty-dog. - You always want Persian kitty-dog. - Yeah, that or Richard Drellm. (laughing) - Wait, wait, he just introduced me to two more places. (laughing) - All right, no, okay. Month, uh, uh, I do love the promos. We should get, we should get some promos. - We should get some promos. - We should get some promos. - Next week, he'll be out here with his teacher. - Magda. - Well, what the thing is, Kix came done now is gonna be performed within a week. - Oh, are we gonna be in a time beach? - 360. - We gotta wrap it up. Okay, so-- - 360. - You got a 360 game? - Well, I have the old Xbox, my buddy's got 360. He'll bring it over. I've got it, like, how big is my TV? I've got it, I got a TV that's just-- - Quite obscene. - Like, figures that little wall, man. And people come over to my house to watch TV now. - It's to that theater to that, yeah. - Yeah, and my buddy, he comes over to watch sci-fi. And so, like, I don't necessarily enjoy it as much as everyone thinks I enjoy it, but what we'll do is we'll bring the video game over and we'll set it up. And right now, we're playing Gears of War. - Yeah. - I fucking love that game. - Do you get online? Do you do the Xbox camera tags? - Fuck, no. - Okay. - Okay. - Dude, is it porn? Fuck no. - I do online. I do online. I will find you and I will chainsaw you. - Dude, let's make some fucking very clear fucking things here at porn computer. That makes sense. Video games can pour up computer. Doesn't make any sense. - I should be making some additions to geekscave.net. - Yeah, geekscave.net, geekscave.net. - Yeah, it's geeksbait.net. So, yeah. - But I like the 360 and I like Gears of War. - You should sign up online. It's actually a lot of fun. - It's funny that you're selling at a 14 year old while you're trying to take it. - You know, see, like eat that, you little bitch. - Help me. - No, you know what? There's no doing that because I've actually done that in another friend's house. And there is nothing more humiliating than having these little 13 year old kids destroy me and basically call me a bitch. - Right. - And I want to reach out and fucking grasp someone, you know? I mean, I'm like, you just call me a bitch. Where the fuck are you? Yeah, I don't fucking around, you know? Like, it's weird in this fucking room and I got a guy in a corner laughing. It's like, fuck you, motherfucker, fuck you, fuck you. And we're at it. Some fucking guy in fucking Nebraska tells me to fucking off because I fucking can't play the game. Fuck you, you're fucking 13 fucking years old, man. I just fucking got the game, man. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. - So, oh. - So yeah, that's my friend. - Your man is my friend. - Your man is my friend. - That cheeks cape, episode 20. (laughing) I just want to say, next week we're going to be talking all about Spiderman 3. Also, put it in your counters, you Northeastern mofos. May 13th, we're going to be in New York City doing an episode, that's Sunday, May 13th. It's Mother's Day, but screw your mom. (laughing) It's Mother's Day, May 13th, we're going to be in New York City. We're going to do a get together. Check geekscaped.net, especially the forums for all the news as it gets up to date on where we're going to be, when we're going to be, and we definitely expect you guys to be there. So, that's the news, that's episode 20. Gilmore, what do you have to possibly say? - One more thing, on geekscaped.net tomorrow, I think it'll be a few days after you guys see this. - That's not going to be over, why are you involved? - I just want to tell people about the comic book of the month club. People go on geekscaped.net/ forums, and basically what you do is you nominate a comic book, and then the one that wins at the end of next week, this week for you guys, we all read, and then we all talk about, on a Skype chat, on a date that we agree on. So, join us, and get on the forums. - It could not have been creepier what you said. So, no, it's a good idea. Once you get a trade, maybe we'll throw your book in there. - When we go to trade? - Yeah. - Oh, that's pretty cool. I honestly have no plans to go to trade until the whole thing is-- - That's right. And maybe that'll be part of the comic book of the month club. We'll see you guys next week. Thank you so much, Skip. Thank you so much, Tone, for coming down here. No, guys, we're all fun. - We're all fun. - This is a blast, and all you little fuckers in Nebraska. Fuck. - Coming for you.
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