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Guest Co-host: Ralph Bluto Apel of the Lost Podcast Dharmalars! - Reviews: For Your Height Only The greatest gauntlet film of all time!?!, News: Shia Labeouf in Indy 4, Michael Bay is doing Prince of Persia?, the death of Kurt Vonnegut and Jonathan gets Harry with the Hendersons. Comics: Mike Allred's Madman is back! Video Games: Sonic and the Secret Rings and Super Paper Mario!! Forums: Best place you've ever had sex! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 17 Apr 2007
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ABC Wednesday, October 9th. You all can play all day. We want books. We want paper towels in the classroom. Bet you won't raise this too. I'm still waking up the paper towels. Abbott Elementary returns with the new season. We asked the district for more after school programs. They gave us $50 for class beds instead. Critics cheer. Abbott Elementary continues to be one of the funniest and most beloved shows on TV. What y'all doing out there? Taking bribes. Proud of y'all. Abbott Elementary, the season premiere on Wednesday, October 9th on ABC, and stream on Hulu. Do you know what you're watching? You're watching Geekscape. [MUSIC PLAYING] How's everybody doing? This is episode 18 of Geekscape. I'm joining with my good buddy. And I'm going to mispronounce your name if you leave it up to me. I told you what it rhymes with, so-- Ralph? Apple? That's good enough. Well, what is it? Awful. Awful. What did you say it rhymed with? Awful? Does that really rhyme with awful? Yeah. Awful? Awful? Put it in a song. I'm not going to put it in a song. I'm not a singer. So Ralph is the host. Co-host? No, you're the main show. All right. I was once a co-host. Talk about it. Lost podcast. Yeah, we do a Lost podcast called The Darmilars, which is an odd name. But it's essentially a prop that me and my partner noticed in one of the episodes. It was a box of cookies. And we assumed there were Malamar versions of this Darmanish food drop thing. For those of you not watching Lost, they're on this island. And there's a corporation that does food drops onto the island. To give the experiment, we don't quite know what's going on on the island, at least I don't, because I've only seen through season two. They do these food drops, and in them, there's cookies, crackers. And before we had a name for the podcast, we had mentioned these cookies a couple times, and then just decided to stick with it. Because our podcast tends to notice the stupid stuff that no one else would even care about. That's how we are in this show. I mean, that is the difference right now between being a connoisseur film, and being a geek, and being a freak. You know what I mean? Take it to that next level of just obsession. You can argue that we live life to its fullest. Every nook and cranny we want to get in there. So before we begin, let's talk about our sponsor, netriver.net. Really funny. They do have this contest going on. I've seen some more commercials. The funniest thing about it is that the guys were supposed to be in L.A. They're on a road trip from Phoenix to Seattle, Obby, and Josh. They're at netriver. And I don't know what happened, dudes. And I know you're listening, but they called me at 1.30 in the morning last night. We're like, hey, man, I don't think we're going to be able to meet up for dinner. 1.30 in the morning, you guys are like, hey, I don't know if we're going to be able to meet up. Yeah, I know. But luckily, they're on a road trip. I called them today to make sure that they hadn't fallen asleep on the road and veered off and crashed. They're doing good. And if we have any technical problems, they're going to be right back up there to fix it. That's netriver.net. They're running this contest. Have you heard about this contest? Yes, I have. It's for people to make their own ads. And if there's questions about what kind of advertising you can make, you can do animation. You can do sock puppets. You can do whatever you want. Put it on YouTube. Show it to me. And the best one gets put up on the show. They're all regularly put up on the show. But here's the big thing. You get a year's free shared hosting, which is pretty damn valuable considering how much bandwidth we use up. So if you want a year's worth of free shared hosting or you just want to do your own thing and make it commercial, this is your perfect chance. The only things you got to do is include, of course, netriver.net. The fact that they're fun and knowledgeable staff, they'll help you out. Best prices on dedicated servers and VPS, rock bottom prices on any shared hosting. And of course, you get $1.95 domain names with shared hosting. I recently signed up for a domain name. I think it cost $7, $8. Granted, I didn't have hosting, but I was hooked up. Also, you put in the promotional code Gilmour. You get 10% off any hosting plan. So how much bandwidth do you guys go through? You guys are an mp3 show, right? I guess we are. Well, yeah, it's an audio podcast. How do you host your shows? Through a different web poster. They're not going to get mad. They won't pull it. We use SwitchPod. And they're for podcasting, right? Yes. And so, like mp3 only, you can go up there and get away with it, because it's a smaller file. Yeah. We're a juggernaut. We would not keep you from seeing our faces. That'd be rude. So we didn't go see a movie this week, because we premiered the magazine section. There's two movie reviews up there right now at geekscape.net review of You're the Dog, which I went to see. And we had a pretty kick-ass member of the geekscape.net blog, Zaro. He reviewed the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie. Both those reviews are on the front page of geekscape.net. You can go check them out and read them. I read them both. They're very good. They're good reviews. Well, thank you, because I wrote one of them. You're the dog was a touching film. Big dog person, as you guys know. Have you seen anything recently? The most recent movie I saw was what came out last week. "Grand House." Do you enjoy it? I enjoyed "Grand House." I agreed a lot with what you said last week. Oh, but-- Sure. --Quin Tarantino being a bit wordy. Yeah. But I mean, I guess, as far as the "Grand House" experience goes, that's kind of the luck of a draw you would get if you were to go to a theater. You don't always get a movie that you're going to be excited about. You're not going to-- you can't please everybody all the time. Sure. And I mean, I enjoyed the movie as a standalone movie. But if I-- like halfway through Planetarium thinking, this is really great, but I know I'm going to have to sit through a "Quin Tarantino" movie after this. It's going to wear you out. Yeah. And then with his movie "Death Proof," starting off so wordy, it almost like heightened all my fears that I was expecting coming through the whole thing. So you were done even quicker? I wasn't because I decided-- I knew going into it. You know what? I'm going to have to deal with this. You're in for it. But yeah. You got your soda, you got your fit mints. What do you get? Raisinets. Raisinets is your thing. Raisinets is cherry coke. Oh, it's nice. Mine is a Mr. Pib, a large pep-- mine's a Mr. Pibber, a large pepsi-- popcorn. And I do popcorn big time. Sometimes a hot dog. And if I got to go with candy, it's either an M&M if I'm feeling chocolate or a sour patch kid. And this is your turn to go on to keekscape.net's forums and talk about what your special combo is at the movies. I don't think we've talked about that yet. Start up a thread. And I think that'd be cool to find out what you guys are eating when you're sitting in the seats. Speaking of movies that are hit and miss, we have gauntlet films, which we talk about. These are movies that are so crappy, so godawful. Like you said, the luck of the draw. For every black belt Jones that came out of the '70s, you get something like this. Ralph was one of the nicest people in telling me all about, for your height only. What is this bullshit? It's a horrible movie that came from the Philippines. And it stars a six foot-- or a six foot-- way off. Yeah, negative six foot. It stars an actor by the name of Wang Wang. And he's three foot six, and he's essentially-- Yeah, not the director. Wang Wang. No. Yeah. The midget one time pool boy, Wang Wang, who's now an actor. And he's a James Bond type character. On the box, he says he's-- But the catch is how tall is he? He's three foot six. Oh, wow. When you see-- there's a shot in this movie, which, by the way, this is like the worst depiction of the movie, because there's nothing-- there's no actors on the front of this. It's the movie, son? It's-- the first 30 minutes are the greatest 30 minutes in movies that you'll ever see. It definitely hits a snag. There's like a 40 minute lull in there, and then you get another like good solid 20 minutes with a three foot six small person with a jet pack. You mean, what the fuckness? Yeah. But this guy is so short. When he's standing, he's got his back-- he's got a gun, he's got his back up against a VW bug. And his head comes up to the handle of the door. That's really funny. This is how short he is. That is really funny. And you can tell he's doing his own stunts, and you can tell it's-- Why are they going to find the stunt? I know, exactly. But a lot of times, it looks like that the producers or someone is just off screen tossing this dude at people. You've got to see this movie. You've got to see this movie. There's something funny about the Philippines. For you, eBay, guys, for your head only is actually available on DVD as a split DVD with another crap film. And I want to purchase it. And in "Will and the Future," there's another movie that we found in college called "The One-Armed Executioner." It's another Philippine movie. Dude, Philippine cinema from the '70s, early '80s is the shit. And this one, "One-Armed Executioner" is about this dude. And it starts out with a midget and a foam booth as an informant. And he's like, bah, so you got to hear me. And they do not like midgets in the Philippines or something. They just love watching him in film. And so while he's on the phone informing the police chief on this drug operation or a crime car tell or whatever, one of the bad guys catches up to him, closes him in the foam booth, like the kind of Superman would change in. Rips it up off the ground and throws it in a river. It drowns the guy. And that's how the movie starts. And then you've got the main character. And of course, he's on the trail. So to teach him a lesson, they break into his house, kill his wife in front of him, and lop off his arm. So for the rest of the movie, you see this Philippines son of a bitch who thinks he's Charles Bronson with his arm, obviously in his shirt. You see his elbow poking out on all this, taking out dudes in Afros and other Philippine guys and those few Americans who are over there and only to act in films. There are a lot of white dudes in these Philippine movies as criminals. Have you noticed? Not in this one. It is a little ghetto. Yeah, I can't even describe it. I know there's a fan trailer on YouTube. If you look up for your hide only, they did one with James Bond music and used a lot of the sound effects from James Bond trailer. And it's really cool. So let's talk Lost. OK. Because we get people every now and then saying, why don't you cover more television? I don't watch a whole lot of television. But dude, that's what you know. You know Lost. I've only watched through season two. I heard season three takes dip in quality. Is that true? I would say that in season two, there was kind of things that happened that maybe went a little strange. And at the beginning of season three, they were kind of in a hole. And they did two-- You think season two ended up on a sucky note? It was kind of a bizarre that they introduced like-- The bad guys. The bad guys and not just the bad guys, but the whole thing was the mystery of the island. Season two, all of a sudden, they find this bunker. And it's got computers in it and stuff. And it seemed kind of soon to get into that kind of a storyline. You wanted to see like a Swiss family Robinson forever or what? No, no, no. But it was more mysterious than sci-fi. It seemed more-- Yeah, first you thought there was a monster in the island. Yeah. Which they're getting into more. Spoiler alert. But anyway, I think that because of this whole storyline with this Dharma initiative and stuff, that when they came back for season three, it felt like they really felt like they wanted to get away from it and go back to like a super national-- And so they had to like do something like really to tie up that kind of storyline and get it back on track. And it took a little while to get to that point. But I think now it's really hitting an awesome stride. Like it's really solid. The past, I think, five or six weeks have been really awesome episodes. Now, what is the season over? Sometime in late May. OK. OK, but it's good. You see the day it out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I think the way that you watch it-- because you say you're watching it-- Oh, that's on DVD. It's like the trade to work. When I was watching season two each week having to wait, and then you have some breaks in there, it's tougher to get through the story and like kind of keep focus on the story. You forget that stuff happens. Yeah. So like heroes, I'm watching heroes that way. I'm watching heroes weekly. And next week, they have the new episode on the 23rd, I believe so. And yeah, you watch it. And you're going to have to force yourself to remember what the hell was going on five weeks earlier, two months earlier, and the last original episode came out. Yeah, but the way you're watching it, I think when you get season three on DVD, you're going to enjoy it. Cool. You're going to enjoy it a lot. I think they just had to tie some loose ends and kind of get it back on track this season. It took a little while. Yo, do you have Psycho listeners too? Not really. I think it's funny because we mention our show, we have a call and segment. OK. And people know when you're recording, so they know to call in. No, it's not live. How the hell do they call it? There's a web page. I mean, anyone can use it. It's a toll-free service, k7.net. And it's essentially an answering service. It's like a 206 area code. And it's stationed in Seattle. And all you do is you type in your email address and a four-number code. And you hit enter. And what it'll do is give you a phone number. And you call that phone number, put in that four-digit code, and say, hey, this is, you know, this is Jonathan. I'll leave a message. When people call that phone number that they gave you, the WAIF file goes directly to your email. OK, wait, let me set this up. Because that's actually really interesting. I'd love to hear these little bastards in person. So I set up this thing on this website. And it's like a geekscape account. And then they call up the number for the geekscape account. And they leave a message. It's a WAIF file. I import it right into the final cut when I'm at it in the episode. And I can see, like, let's set that up. All right, I'll show you how. It's easy. It takes about two minutes. Because anybody can be a man behind a keyboard. But when your little bastards have to start telling me with your own voices, like, I'm going to hear their voices crack when the manhood leaves them. You know, your show sucks. That's pretty easy to do. But-- Really easy to do. Let's say it talking to a phone. And then, oh, let's say it in person. When I find you on the convention circuit. But you're asking if we get crazy people. I just think it's cool. Actually, honestly, I think it would be really cool to have that calling feature. Somewhere along the line, we had mentioned that we'd like drunk calls. We get about two every week. We get about anywhere from 10 to 15 calls a week. And I've got two or three drunk calls. I mean, they're great. Listen, they're great. What's the weirdest one? They're like, hey, Ro. That's their good-- None of them really stand out. The best sort of thing. Anything as weird as Club Bang? Yeah. The Club Bang? Story that Gilmore said a couple of weeks ago? Nothing that weird. No. OK. But it is funny because Lost is kind of complex. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of ways to think about it. And so a lot of people will call and drunk and try to spout off theories. That's the most fun, because when you're drunk, you can try to compose yourselves for setting up this phone number. We'll do it. I want to set this phone number so that people can call up and give the theories on Gilmore and what Vijay does when he's not taping the episode. And now, speaking of theories, I have my own friend-- Go for it. Tommy Fad in Austin, Texas. And we were talking about laws. He's a big lost guy. Have you heard the theory that it's the Wizard of Oz? Yes. You've heard the Wizard of Oz series. Because he started telling me about this theory, Wizard of Oz. And it made sense where Hurley is the cowardly lion. You've got the scarecrow in-- what's his name? Southern dude? Sawyer. Sawyer. You've got Dorothy, and then you've got Jack as the Tin Man. And then, I guess, something with the Wizard's name-- or Dorothy's dad's name was something that-- Henry Gail. Henry Gail, who is who-- The guy that they found in the-- In season two. And there's all this, Tyler, what's your take on the Wizard of Oz series? It's pretty interesting right now. And I mean, I can see the parallels. I don't know if they're actually-- Dude, it's like that one. When he tells me like that, it's so blatantly obvious to me that that's definitely there. I wish I could talk about season three stuff, because they keep talking about somebody. And I think-- There you go ahead and be as big as possible. At the end of season two, the guy who was Henry Gail, who's another, was kept talking about him-- Him. The Wizard? Exactly. I think the way they're talking about this-- him, and I don't know if I'll-- Sure, sure, sure. I could say the name, but it's not a big deal. They keep calling him Jacob. This guy Jacob, who apparently is great leader. He is apparently the head guy of these other people. OK, and how does it work into Wizard of Oz? The way I see it right now, because we haven't really seen him, he's more of-- OK. He seems like he's the guy who looks over everything on the island that-- Dude, did you see Wicked? Did you see Wicked? Did you see Wicked? No, I haven't seen him. Why was he wicked? Wicked, he says. Just had to say that. Now, how are they going to work in the Munchkins? Well, the other's always looking for children. So wang, wang, maybe, make an appearance. I would say so. Can I say something, though? Yeah. I mean, I don't-- I'm not going to do it. It's going to spoil it. No, it's going to spoil it. Oh, you want to see if it's going to be lost? Yeah, it's going to be lost. Oh, don't tell me nothing about a loss. Let's talk some movie news. Are you down? I'm down. I'm down for movie news. Have you heard this bullshit about-- Michael Bay? Michael Bay directing-- I read that today. --the sands of time. This is news that-- whenever I need news for the show, I just pull it off again. Well, what's your thoughts on Michael Bay first of all? You know what? A lot of people think he's the biggest evil in filmmaking. And whatever, the dude knows how to make popcorn movies. I'm going to see his movies. I sat through Pearl Harbor. I'll continue to sit through his movies. Is that just a freebie? No, Pearl Harbor was just horribly long. I mean, he just had no direction. You may argue that Armageddon was like that. I actually think Armageddon-- I enjoy Armageddon. If Criterion backs Armageddon, I'm fine with it. But now he's doing Transformers. We'll see how he does Transformers. The trailers look awesome. Yeah, and-- Those photos look awesome. It's going to-- I don't even know where to talk about this, but I was at work. And I saw-- there's all sorts of different businesses in the building that we were in. And I looked in the door of one of the editing bays. And somebody was cutting the Transformers video game trailer, a commercial for the Transformers video game. It looked pretty damn good. It looked like a sweet game. A lot of the footage was from-- Were any of the voices in there yet? No, no, it was just cutting footage. But yeah, so he's supposedly doing Prince of Persia, Sands of Time, first in the trilogy, maybe? I don't know. Well, he's talking about Transformers 2009. We'll see about that, Mr. Bay. But you know what? I like it now. Prince of Persia isn't something that I'm totally-- I haven't really played the games. I mean, I've played the first one. It's really good. All right. But I'm not totally-- it won't break my heart if the movie ends up sucking. But at least they're starting to put some high profile directors against these-- they're taking the comic book model and putting higher profile directors into the video game movies. So who would play the Prince of Persia? Vijay. I can see that. Hey, Vijay, how's your wall running? What? Wall running. Oh, it's all right. It's all right. It's good. Now, how about working away through spikes? All right, sword fighting? Vijay wants us to move it along. You know sword fighting. Prince of Persia's sword is curved. It's a dude like this. Yeah. Oh, it's sword fighting. I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. Vijay's like, move along. He just hits pause. So on top of that, Indiana Jones 4-- it seems like every other show we're mentioning Indiana Jones 4, now Shail of Booth is in, which has been a rumor along that. Is he going to be a short one? I first read that rumor on ankle news back in February. And is he going to be short round? Is he going to be a short round? Is he going to be a short round? Or a character or a young indie? Are they going to try to make a young indie? So Lucas could go on and make young indie movies? Dude, I'm not that stoked for this movie at all. I don't care either. How crazy is that, though? We live in a world that we don't care about an Indiana Jones or possibly an Indiana Jones movie. And the thing is, do you think America's died? Maybe the spirit. Do you think that's what this is? I have no idea. But a few years ago, I heard that Spielberg was saying, you know, Spielberg? Are you making him more Jewish? He's more Jewish now. He was-- Spielberg? He was trying to make-- He wanted to make the movie without CG. Did I say Burger? I don't know what's-- I don't know what's wrong with it. I'm sorry. Spielberg and Rosenberger? Wait, he wanted to make the movie without CG? Yeah, without CG. Or minimal CG. There's got to be CG in there, but-- Dude, bring back those matte paintings-- The matte paintings with the Jeep drive in the movie. How gorgeous were those? Matte paintings. Those were so magic to me. And then you-- It's that old serial style. They got a stick though. Do the stop motion faces. So we got any of those four. We're going to see it. Yeah, we're going to see it. Because we saw episode one, two, and three. Oh, dude, dude. I know, I'm sorry, but I'm just saying we're going to see it. There's no denying it that we're going to see it. Well, so big geek news. I'm going to drop this one right in the middle of movies. Is the death of Kurt Vonnegut? Wow. I didn't-- I mean, dude was old. I didn't see it coming. Have you ever read a Kurt Vonnegut novel? I had it my wife has, and she was very, very upset. And still is very upset. What? Yes. She has a read. No, you were upset about him dying. Yeah. I told her right before we went to bed, and it pissed her off. Do you mind coming and talking about Kurt Vonnegut books? Do you care? No. No. She's rather not. Yeah. She's scared. Let me tell you about my first experience with Kurt Vonnegut. I had torn my knee up, playing basketball, and had surgery. And then-- So you used to be a jock? I still am. No. Yeah, I used to be a jock. OK. And so I was always a geek. Oh, OK. I worked at the comic book store in this period. Actually, I was in college by this point. But I started dating this girl who was really well read. And while I was recuperating, she brought me Galapagos, which is like one of his books. And it was awesome. This dude's writing, he would go off. It was almost like a really well designed ADD. Because you know what I'm saying? How he would go off on details of these characters that were so intricate, and so completely removed from what you think the plot to be. But in a couple pages and a couple chapters, these details about who they are, or these experiences that they've gone through, would come back to just give you this enormous picture of the world in this perspective about the story that was just profound. The guy found so many profound things by piecing together most minute things in these characters' lives. I mean, it was amazing writing. Because it wasn't just generic writing. It was so amazingly intricate and accessible. Because when you think like a really intricate story, and you're like, I don't want to read that shit. It's going to take forever. But he would do it in such a layman's termed way, in such an accessible way that it was like reading a damn Crichton book, you know, which are pretty accessible. Do you read any of that stuff? Did you read Gilmore? No? I'm kind of in the same boat. Actually, I read Cat's Cradle. He read Cat's Cradle. That was your first-- I'm not going to get a book. But just because of the comics and stuff. I may not have ever read the book had she not give me a hand job. [LAUGHTER] I was laid up. I was like-- You didn't bust a knee. I had to bust it up knee. And not only that, it was in this machine. You know, when you have surgery, you have to have your knee move back and forth. So you're in a machine all night that while you're sleeping, it continues to move your knee. So that you're swelling all this stuff, it'll drain. And I remember being in that fucking machine, and she's still moving your other hands. I was like, this isn't what? Incredible. Thanks, kills. Thanks, Gilmore. And then she was like, hey, and I brought you some stuff. I brought you-- we'll watch Casino. And she brought me a book. What happened to her is actually pretty funny. Gilmore asked what happened. We were dating for two months. And then it was a summer thing. I was going to go back to school in a different-- you know, back in Philly. She was in Austin. And I remember her leaving for the weekend. My new found freedom was great. My knee was all healed up. I was back on the scene. And when she came back, she had a gorgeous curly hair, and she had strained it. And it looked like Planet of the Apes, dude. And when she straightened the hair, I swear. [LAUGHTER] Dude, when I went to pick her up in the airport, I did not recognize her dude. She was standing as close to me as the camera is. And I'm at the airport going, waiting for her. And she goes, Jonathan. And I'm like, OK, I can hear her. And she was like, Jonathan. And I go-- and she's standing there. And her hair, which was curly and full, was like this. And she looked like freaking Dr. Zaius. Wow. I mean, dude, she was hot. She was hot. And she had the pieces. But the hair freaked me the hell out. And so she was like, what happened? She was like, so you know, it's anything different? I'm like, eh. And she's like, you don't like my hair. Notice anything different? Yeah. I'm like, well, I like your curly hair and this and that. And she just kind of went out. So that was the beginning of things to come. And ultimately, we broke up. And she started leaving me notes at work. And I was holding towels in the YMCA. The YMCA was like, oh, you tore your knee up? We'll give you a job. And I was folding towels. I was a towel boy at the YMCA that summer. And I would have customer members come in and give me notes that she passed them in the parking lot. And they were like, stalker, you dude. I finally called her and was like, dude, cut this shit out. She was like, you don't like the notes? What's she crying on the phone saying, the hair's curly? She was like, you didn't like the notes? I was like, no, no, keep them coming. No, any more evidence for her straining order. And she was like, hey, and I was like, oh my god, John, you've got to end it. So curve on again. It was like this chick. This chick was saying, it was like, dude, she will continue to stalk you and bring you shit at work. You've got to stop this. So to make a long story short, a long story, a little less long, she said, I said, listen, we can't go out anymore. We're too different. We don't have that many things in common. This and that, and she goes, I don't get it. And I was like, look at how clear can you be? I said, listen, it's like Harry and the Henderson's. OK, the Henderson's of this family. They go up in the mountains near Seattle. They end up hitting this thing, bringing it home with him. It lives with him. But that's Harry. He's a Sasquatch. He belongs to the mountains. The Henderson's belonging to the city. OK, so after a while, he's out of his element, starts freaking out whenever he sees a dead animal, starts eating like, like, done all this weird shit. People start hunting him. It's not working out. So now you're back in the woods, and everything's fine. And there's a pause. And I was like, that had to a register with her. Did I hear this? What am I the Sasquatch? She hangs up the phone, and I see headlights move out of my driveway. Oh, wow. She was calling from the driveway, dude. The next day at work, I get a note. And I open it. The woods are vast and lonely without you. Psycho. That's how it ended. Wow. That's how it ended. The girl who brought me casino and my first kiravana good book and gave me a hand job even though I was totally crippled out, that's why it ended. Moving on, let's talk comics. Back to comics. All right, so-- My second one. My boy Ralph awful. My boy Ralph awful over here has not been in a comic store for the last 12 years. You admitted this to me. I admitted it to you. Knowing that it would infuriate me, he still climbed into the lines then and said-- But you know what's funny is all this stuff with this book that we're going to talk about has been getting me fired up on comic books. And then-- No, what happens when you get fired up? Do you have any signature books? I talk about it non-stop. When you get fired up-- My mouth runs. She's sick, probably sick of hearing me down. Don't go basketball. But I get so excited about it and talk about it non-stop that when-- That's the podcast bullshit. No, when I hear a podcast talk about what it's been on my mind for the past couple of months, I send a letter on my space to the person who hosts the podcast and say, I need to be on your show. That's what happened, isn't it? You wanted to be on the show so we could talk about Madman. Yeah, because you're pumped. He's hard right now. And he's looking. No, I'm kidding. I'm not going to reach down and pull it unless you're in a leg brace. So yeah, you asked to be on the show to talk about Madman. You were pumped. You actually found out about the show, though, through your wife. Through my wife on the other show. Gigdrome. I list-- she listened to Gigdrome. She was trying to remember-- She was like, these dudes are hot. I want to go snow skiing with them. She was trying to explain to me which episode it was that she first noticed that I would like-- you guys talked about green lantern transformers and probably naked chicks or something. Probably robo titties. Robo titties. Three of my favorite things. But anyway-- That's a good list. So she turned me on to the show, and I started watching it. How did you find out about the show? I don't remember. I think I might have just done a search on iTunes. You just did a search, hot guys. Well, she married me, so she wanted to know more about geek, so she didn't know where geek. Now, you had a job for a short time at the happiest place on Earth, Disneyland. Yes, that's a sort of thing. We'll say short, but were you a mascot or something? Would you dress up as other characters? I was-- Because that would have been pretty hot if that's how you guys met. Do them the next best thing. Wait, what are you doing? I was sweeping the trash with the dust pan. Bulls. For real? For real. But I got to tell you one thing, of all the places you can work at that place, that's the one to work for. Because you get the real guys. You get the real guys. Like blue color, white color, and the people who are running the rides and are dressed up as characters, fake. Totally fake people. Fake smiles, happy, go lucky. No one wants to talk. They all want to be actors, right? They want to be happy. Right. We're sweeping. [LAUGHTER] You know what I mean? This is one of those simple-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] Here's the difference. We're having an existential conversation. We have people going to Disneyland. This is a whole sociological study. You have people going to Disneyland. OK, tell me about this. Families are going to Disneyland. They want to have a happy time. They're forking out cash to people that are giving them food for a bunch of cash. You have these people who are running the rides that they've been waiting in life for hours. You have the ticket takers who have been, you know, give me 50 bucks a pop. You have all these people that are just in your way. Then you have us. Dudes that are doing the-- You got nowhere to go. You got nowhere to go. We're just kicking back. And if people run across us during the day, they didn't have to wait through line to get to us. They didn't have to fork over cash to get to us. We're just guys hanging out, having a good time, not putting up the show, not trying to make beautiful. Yeah, so-- She came up to you and was like-- No. OK. It's a whole unbladed story. All right. Well-- My podcast partner is-- his girlfriend is one of her best friends. Insest to us. What? It's a beautiful thing. Speaking of his essential crises is-- let's talk about Mike Allen's Madman. Yes. I brought my copy. Tell me you got your copy. I read it, baby. It's in the other room. So Madman is a character unlike most superheroes. He has a clouded past. You don't really know his story. He was like a super spy sniper, assassin hitman for the tri-eye corporation, which is sort of this shadow corporation. And then he's killed, resurrected by two scientists-- Dr. Fleming, Dr. Beauford. Beauford. Boyford? Be-O-I-F-F-A-R-D. And he's resurrected in like a Frankenstein way. And-- Really like a Frankenstein way. Literally. And has special abilities that he's still uncovering. Yes. And this-- I mean, this comic's been around since the early '90s. '91, '90? And then it's just been kind of spotty with its release schedule as it went through independent publishing, dark horse. Now it's on image. And I love the character because of Mike Howard's art in the design. He's so cool. He wraps himself up in a great, well-designed costume. And he's cool. His weapons, he uses a yo-yo. He uses a disc gun like-- Does it look like you get the supermarket? And they kill people. Yeah. But he mainly fights zombies, aliens, beat nicks. Beat nicks that are mutated by radioactive goo. And it's just sort of a fun, rocket ship, giant robot type of book. It's like, if you were to have characters set in like 50 and 60s pop American art, like pop art, and set them in a kind of Fritz Lang metropolis type of world with spaceships, with like the rivets, kind of like the Flash Gordon serial meets pop world. It definitely runs the style between a Flash Gordon and Andy Warhol. Yes. You know what I mean? And that whole era of just pop culture regurgitation is in this book. But on top of that, it is an existential book. He doesn't know who he is. He doesn't know his place in this. And he's always constantly questioning his friend's or his station life. Like, he doesn't know his purpose. Is he a hero? Was he-- as a assassin, was he a villain? And then the supporting group of characters is his girlfriend, Joe. He's got red hair, a lot like Laura. And you're a girl, Steve. And so we've got that. We've got some aliens. Dr. Flamm is-- You have Mott. Mott is an alien. Mott is a couple. Yeah. You know Mott is a couple of the band. Yes, I read that recently. She's a big-- That's one of my favorite songs. She's a big hoie fan, so. That one song, all the-- All the Young Dudes? All the Young Dudes is one of my favorite 70 songs. And so it's just all that stuff. Music, pop culture, in a book-- And it's funny. And for those of you guys who are scared off by the last 15, 16 years of history, you can pick up this issue and get right in on it, because it's a catch up issue. He starts out hopping cars, and everyone in them is dead. And there's a zombie. I mean, it's like everybody has just died. Everyone's just dead. It's like 28 days later, but the bodies are lying everywhere. Yeah, there's no zombies. They're all dead. They're all just dead. And his little robot assistant-- Warren. Warren comes out of nowhere and starts telling him that you caused a disease that killed everyone. And he starts replaying events, and that takes you through the first 15 years of the comic book really well, including the tie-ins with Superman. Remember they had crossovers with Superman and different comic book characters from Dark Horse? Yeah, Savage Dragon, Hellboy, Big Guy. So that's all tied into continuity. And so this first issue, you're going to get a crash course on Mad Man. If you were to go-- if you were to read this book and then read the Mad Man Wikipedia page, you'd be totally caught up. Yeah. You'd be totally caught up. Ready to have some fun. If you want more than that, I'm still waiting on my copy of Mad Man Gargantua. What is that? Mad Man Gargantua is a collected book of every Mad Man story, minus the Superman crossover. Right. And then I think one other crossover. I'm not sure. But it's 852-page hardbound book. How much did that thing? It was originally 125. I think now it's down to 74 on Amazon. Wow. They're only making like 2,500. Wow. So it's every single Mad Man. Are they signed? First 300 are signed. Wow. And I think that's still the 125 value. Do they have protecting coverings on the pages, because you're going to spooze on it? Not sure. There's not a lot that's known about it, except that it was supposed to come out February 7. And you fork over 100 bucks for it, and you don't know what you're getting. Yeah. I mean-- That's how dedicated you are, though. Oh, yeah. If it's an 852-page collected Mad Man, his whole storyline, then-- I mean, really-- It's good stuff. I mean, I recently found four issues of my Mad Man comics from Dark Horse. And I read those, again, like three times each. They're just so much fun. They're so much fun. And I-- reading this book-- because there hasn't been a Mad Man book in almost 10 years. Yeah, I think 2000. And so reading this really put me back in that comic book store where I discovered Mad Man. When I turned 16, my dad was like, all right, get a job. And I had always been going into a comic store and they gave me a job. And I discovered all that Mad Man stuff. And I just spent weekends reading through all the Mad Man stuff, the Dark Horse stuff. I was big into the Star Wars books at that time. Tales of the Jedi, things like that. And it was around that time in the mid '90s where spawn was coming out, profit, wildcats, all these really intricate-- Death blokes? Like all these books with this art that's just absolutely insane. And then here you have this book where the artwork looks like it came from the '60s. Yeah, he does have a book. It's very 2D. Really strong line art and it's very minimal. And not to put it down, but it's almost like if it was black and white, it would almost be a coloring book. Or a comic or a Sunday comic strip. And his wife Laura Alrin does the coloring. And it's just amazing. It's just really good. Good one to combo. And I'm excited. I can't wait. I have a subscription at my comic books. So after 12 years of not going to the comic store, what was this experience like for you? Well, I came to a comic store. It almost felt like I didn't leave. It felt like it was weird. I don't know. Maybe if you were to go back to your old high school and revisit it. Get my ass beat again? Yeah. Yeah. But that's essentially what it felt like. Do you feel good? Are you staying? No, no, we led you back into comics. I'll say yes for the sake of the show. Thanks, but really mad man led you back into comics. Cool. It's a great book. A little bit about that. It's a great book. Well, you know there are many other books out there that I can recommend to you. Well, you were telling me because my all time favorite character is Green Lantern. And you told me this new book is great. And I've really been thinking about it. It's very good. And you can definitely get the first ones that Jeff Johns. And who's doing the artwork? Who's in Shriever? What's his name? They're doing the artwork. And he's doing the artwork. And it's awesome. Jeff Johns is writing it. You can definitely get the first miniseries, the return of Hal Jordan in "Pray Paperback." I highly recommend it. It's well written. Again, it catches you up to the history of Green Lantern. So you don't have to worry about all of these millions of Green Lanterns that have happened. Can I show you something right now? Oh, god, this is getting gay. But this is something that I haven't even revealed on my podcast. I always tell my listeners, go to Comic-Con, and I'll show you this. Get it over quick, man. If anything hits me in the eye, I'm out of here. It's not. It's not. No way. No way. Look at that. Oh, my god, that's awesome. See who's got a Green Lantern tattoo? It's real. Yeah, it's definitely real. But how does it make you feel? I got it. I actually got this-- Well, I made your piece. I had no Stevie for a while. You see, she shows like a bat symbol on her tip. This is how I wrote. Dick Grayson on her ass. You got Dick Grayson on her ass. She's like, you know where to put the dick. I had known her for a while. And we didn't start going out. I apologize. I wasn't even paying attention. I wasn't paying attention, so I'll be pissed when I watch this at home. I'll be like, mother-- look, I said, what? I didn't hear that. Welcome to the bat cave. I'm just going to keep going. I'm going to keep going. That's how we do this. All right, now I know where we're. It's fucking giant-- Anyway, I was trying to stop it. I was paying to transfer his rags. I'm not saying that your wife has his bat cave. I'll just get someplace else. You can do that. That works. That works. Gilmore does that. And then it works. OK. OK, you were going to say something that obviously wasn't paying attention, too. Listen, this is what I'm going to say. Because I've known her for a while. I got the tattoo. And I think a month later, she was like, we started going out. Oh, that's cool. So I was trying to sell something sweet. And I didn't file everything. Oh, man, I can't wait to see this episode. I'm going to hunch my computer. You're going to have to buy me a computer. I like how I'm blamed. I'm blamed with his race problems. Maybe a VJ runs a tape right after I can just punch out your TV instead. You can just punch me, buddy. All right, I'll do that. I'm OK with that. You can punch me. I don't give a shit. It's nothing God hasn't already done. So let's talk video games. Do you play games? I play, yes. I'm going to say yes. I spend my time. I swear to God, that me channel. Yeah, I'm obsessed with. And Nintendo needs-- Yeah, Nintendo needs to come out with an update for that, because 100 people aren't. 100 people's not enough. Well, yeah, I'm pouring, I guess. Hey, hey, how are we doing on time, VJ? No, we're good. So let's talk about this for 15 minutes, awesome. So Lauren Rufus are coming back from agility training. It's magnificent. Hey, Rufus, how are you? But let me introduce you to Rufus. Sweetie, I like how Laura comes in and she says, I'm sorry. We're coming into her home. Baby, you're fine. This is Rufus. Rufus is a Boston Terrier. And Agile. Very Agile. They probably did the weave pulls today. Did the weave pulls? Did the teeter totter? So video games. Again, sorry about that, folks. We have a Wii. Yeah. Love it. I think I spend most of the time playing the sports. I think the first game I got for the Wii was the Sonic Secret Rings game. How is that? Horrible. Wow. I'm going to say horrible. You know why? You know why? And this is why I'm going to say horrible. Because I was reading reviews where it said, for all you 2D Sonic fans out there that miss old school Sonic, this is the game for you, it's not. Remember those old games where they would have a car racing game and there's the background that keeps going? Yeah. And there's a plastic car that's stuck to the steering wheel and it's just like, it's not even a real game. That's what it's like. That's the game you fly through this world and you just move Sonic back and forth to try to get rings. That's terrible. It is. I was really excited about it and I played it and I'm like, okay, I can get used to this, but it's... And you just move the controller like this? You hold it like a steering wheel like you do with the excite truck and you just go like this. That has got awful. And then when you have to hold the button and he slides, you let go of the button to jump. Oh wow. You just press the button like a reaction. You have to like hold it down to come into our house. You hold it down and the long you hold it when you let go of a higher jump. And to attack enemies if you're locked on, which is an automatic lock on, you have to shake the controller and it dive bombs the people. Dude, I wish I had it just to show you how bad it was. No, I don't want to see it. No. Just don't get it. But you guys have been playing a different game. Stevie's been playing Paper Mario. Now what are your impressions of Paper Mario from Stevie's? I've never personally enjoyed Paper Mario. I like Mario platform games. That's cool. I'm not big into RPGs. Zelda's awesome. If you haven't played Zelda. Oh dude. I've been Zelda in three weeks. I love Zelda. But what are your... How much is RPG in Paper Mario? How much is TV? It looks like from what I've seen from the GameCube version to this one. It looks like there's a big leap. This one looks more like a platformer. More puzzle solving than turn-based fighting, but I hear that the turn-based fighting is still in there. It's cool. From what I've seen, the whole thing with Paper Mario, it seems like it's almost like an easy way to make a Mario game without having to come up with graphics, like the 2D art that they do. It looks cool. But it seems crazy to me. This one looks pretty impressive. It looks cool because it's changed. It looks flat. Yeah, it looks flat. But then the camera will swing around and you'll have this 3D view of the room. Now are you in control of that? Yes. I've seen you press a button and it's almost like, here's Mario and this door. The square door comes out, pops out like a pop-up book, spins around, and then the whole room tilts. And you can do other things while in that mode. So you can hit boxes there that you can see. I think. That's really cool. It seems like an interesting game, she really enjoys it. Cool. That's the kind of thing. I mean, I've kind of, I've rediscovered my Xbox 360, brought it over to Laura's. She's not happy about that because I'm like, "I'm ready to hit the streets, baby." Because I've been playing Crackdown. I was like, "Baby, you might have had to kill some gang members for a while." She's like, "This is my house. You need to understand that this is my house." And you kill gang members when I'm not in it because I want to watch TV. So I understand that. I'm learning not to have to kill gang members all the time. I love that game. But that is Sonic Secret Rings, right? No good. No good. But Paper Mario good. Paper Mario. Stevie gives us fun. Stevie gives us fun. She says it's a little easy. She says it's too easy, but she's giving it a very sore thumbs up. Let's move right into forums because we're going to close up the show, but let's talk about the forums. Could I say one more thing about how games are good? Yes. Please. Get technical. That's all I got to say. Get technical. Download it on the Wii. Yes. It's still awesome. I love technical. I love 10-yard fight. And you don't need the big control. The classic control. Just throw your Wii control on the side. Get technical. So in forums, we have forums over at Geekscape.net. Gilmore wanted to talk a little bit about the, what is it? The comic book of the month club. Yeah. The comic book of the club. Bang of the month club. The comic book of the month club. You guys talk about this stuff on Skype. When is the next meeting? Just let me know. Okay, no. Yeah. Come on in. Sit really close to me. And then I want to go into the forum topic and close this out. So the comic book of the month club is basically something that was started by someone in our forums over there at Geekscape.net/ forums. But they appreciate them. Okay. And it's really awesome. So hit up those forums because that's where these things get started. Anyways, we've decided on a poll, which we're going to have every time that this comes along. We're going to have a comic book of the month club. It's basically like Oprah's book club. Sure. Only it's with comic books. You could probably just say book club. But what is the book this time around? The book, the first one, is Sleeper Volume 1. Okay. By your boy, Andrew Baker and Phillips. They were doing criminal, which kicks ass. Same exact team that's doing criminal and it's great. I actually haven't read Sleeper. Hit the mic. So anyway, we're not going to talk about Sleeper now because you guys are going to talk about Sleeper. But go get Sleeper, the trade paper back, and then check out the forums because you've got a time. And then on April 28th, the Sunday that's about two weeks from now, we are going to be talking about this with me and a bunch of other people from the forums on Skype. On a Skype chat at 3 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. So you guys record that, please, and put it up on the website. Yep. For those of us who can't be there. Anyone who wants to come in can, you can just download Skype for free on scott.com. Make sure to get that. There will also be a thread on this comic in the Geekscape forums that Geekscape.net. Thanks, brother. So let's get down to the real nitty-gritty of the forums. Subject of the week is, I've read this. Best place you've had sex. Mule D had a really good response. Best place you've had sex, your mom. In your mom. Yeah. In the back cave is what you say. Big Yanks said a fire escape. I think she was running away from him and he managed to catch her. But not before she'd gotten out that far. Helen bought in England, who's one of my favorite new, I just know that she just started getting really active. And she's from England. She said, "Chooch. Anyway, you might get caught." So it's kind of weird, but I have to say, my favorite answer is Thundercat. That's you, buddy. He posted this like a month ago. He said, "Dude, a few years ago, I was driving home on the highway from South Dakota to Kansas, and I was really horny, and I had a boner for like two hours. The road was kind of rough, and my Saturn had bad suspension. It was making my junk vibrate against my jeans and stuff. So the land is completely flat in the area, and you can see a mile or two ahead and behind a view. Nobody was around, so I donated a sample of the little yellow, into the yellow, little yellow Best Buy bag sperm bank. Unfortunately, that's kind of hard to do while driving in such a small car. So I got about half of it refunded all my jeans. Now, that's pretty gross in itself. The fact that that's the best sexies ever had? Yeah. The best place. The best place. Now, the sad thing is, Lauren and I first hooked up on this couch, on that side, right? Hey, we didn't have sex though. We didn't have sex on the couch, because it was because it was really, no, recently we tried having sex on the couch. It was impossible. I couldn't get my shit anywhere. I'm glad. There was no rhythm. We could barely even kiss on the damn couch. It sucked. I was like, hey, remember this? This is where we first hooked up, and I was trying to start the magic, and it ended up the tragic. Because I'm like, she's falling on the floor, she's like, "Hold on, get there." And I'm like, "Oh, dude, her head hits the table." It was easily the worst place I've ever had sex. But it was an attempt with her, which is kind of cool. We tried. But we didn't succeed. I was like, okay, back to the bed, like normal, and then I couldn't finish. I'm really glad this story turned out that way, because this couch, I'm glad it's Boner Kryptonite for it. By the time the guy's in the middle, I was like, yeah. Magic's gone. But then again, when I'm involved in the situation, magic was never there. Wow. Yeah. Back to comics? I think we're safer there. Yeah. Okay. And guys like me, we're safer in comics. This is why we stick to comics, because we suck at this other thing that everybody's always talking about. So next episode, 18 for you guys, we'll see you guys next week with a review of Hot Fuzz. So... You can't wait. Yeah. Hell yeah. Take to hear your review. I get the hell out of here. There's weekly content all week at Geekscape.net. The new magazine. Have you mentioned that? The new magazine? Yeah, dude. That's what I'm talking about. There's reviews. There's articles that J low down every week. Gilmore's Creepy Corner. We've got music. There's stuff being reviewed and interviewed, and of course the news section where we get our news stories. So check it out at Geekscape.net. Check out the forums. We'll see you guys next week. Thanks a lot, man. Where can we check you guys out? Probably the easiest way to get ahold of us right now is... Jail. Myspace.com/darmilars. D-H-A-R-M-A-L-A-R-S. All right. That'll do it. Cool. Thanks to you guys. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. That's right. Thanks. That'll do this. A lot of fun. What are you looking at, bitch?