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Geekscape 16: Ninja Cheerleaders

You saw the trailer to the best summer movie of all time! Now meet the star Ginny Weirick and director David Presley! It's a Ninja Cheerleaders spectaculat... until Gilmore arrives! MOVIES: Blades of Glory, News: Stargate is coming back and so is The X-Files! The FINAL Spider-Man 3 trailer interpreted by Gilmore. COMICS: Eclipse Comics' Sam Slade: Robot Hunter and indie book Box Office Poison VIDEO GAMES: The GTA IV trailer, Halo smack talk and David talks about his Guinness World Record in video game playing! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 03 Apr 2007
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ABC Wednesday, October 9th. You all can play all day. We want books. We want paper towels in the classroom. Bet you won't raise this too. I'm still waking up the paper towels. Abbott Elementary returns with the new season. We asked the district for more after school programs. They gave us $50 for class beds instead. Critics cheer. Abbott Elementary continues to be one of the funniest and most beloved shows on TV. What y'all doing out there? Taking bribes. Proud of y'all. Abbott Elementary, the season premiere Wednesday, October 9th on ABC, and stream on Hulu. What's up, guys? Welcome to episode 16 of GeekScape. For the next 45 minutes to an hour, we're going to be bringing you the latest news and reviews in the world of movies, video games, and comics. Isn't that right? That's right. I've joined today. Introduce yourselves, guys. Hi, I'm Jenny Weyrich. David Presley. David is the director. You're one of the stars of Ninja Cheerleaders, which you guys know if you visit geekscape.net, because we will put the trailer up in the news section, and everybody pretty much freaked out on it. And I contacted you, David, and said, I have to have you guys on the show to talk about the movie, because it's such a perfect example of what it is to be like a geek film, you know? Like a cult film. Ninja Cheerleaders. Like, what else do we want in a movie? Nothing like that. We brought along Gilmore, because he's a creep, and big time creep. And I said, dude, he said, hey, who's the guest on the show this week? I said, the girl's from Ninja Cheerleader and the director, and he goes, oh, can I come to that? Yeah. And here he is. He's going to throw down a little bit. But real quick, let's get business done. We have a sponsor, geekscape. What's her name? It's called netriver.net. And netriver has a brand new website. And to celebrate, we're throwing a contest to give away a year's worth of free shared hosting. Now, all you have to do to make a netriver ad is to include these four facts-- fun and knowledgeable staff. The best price is on the dead. OK, that's enough. You love that I read that part. Listen, listen. Oh, it's so good. All you got to do is include these four facts in your netriver ad. It can be a cartoon. It can be a comedy. It can be whatever you want. Fun and knowledgeable staff, the best prices on dedicated servers and BPS. Rock bottom prices on any shared hosting and $1.95 domain names with your shared hosting. As always, include the promotional code, Gilmore, and you get 10% off your hosting plan. It's so good. Yeah, how's that working? It's working pretty well. I kind of like it. I've got a lot of love letters from the people of netriver. So that sounds like a good deal, so clothing's optional then. Right. That didn't rank. Totally 10% off for throwing this jerk's name into the promotional code slot. What picture are we going to have now on this week, do you think? You know what? Somebody posted some really funny pictures of you on the floor. Oh my god. Those are ridiculous pictures. You know, Gilmore, too, was a fispian at one point. Oh, yeah. I was. I was a movie extra for a whole year. And what do I see looking for? Did a high school play? And why'd you stop? Why'd you stop? Why'd I stop because I found a lucrative job in food delivery, which-- It's a growth industry. I was. I know. It is a growing one. I found a job in a growth industry in a parking lot. Yeah, I was just focusing on school. It's kind of not doing much. And so we went to see a movie. We did. Blades of Glory. This one started-- How is that? Will Ferrell and John Heater has here. You're not today, right? Yeah, I saw 300 less. They're opposing figure skaters who get tossed out of figure skating in singles because they start punching each other. They then want to make a comeback by joining forces and being a doubles team. And they're a ragtag team because one guy's a super macho, just ridiculously, just masculine sex addicts played by Will Ferrell. And the other guy is a really girly, quasi-gay, just sort of girly man, played by-- The Gilmore Eater. Kind of a good door. Thank you very much, played by John Heater. And John, how would you like a movie? I actually really enjoyed it. I thought it was really funny. You've got to go see it, regardless of whatever the hell he's about to tell me. No, I do want to see it. But wait, while we're talking about movies, I have to ask, I went and saw 300 last night. And a friend of mine said that all of their-- the abs were computer graphics generated. And I'm watching them. And that is the biggest news about 300-- Is it really-- are those all fake? That's so funny. I don't know. I don't know whether they're fake or not. But every girl that has not even talked to me for a while is like, oh my god, which is a big majority. Which is about 98% of them. And they've contacted me, oh my god. Do you like comics? Did you see 300? Oh, that's so good. And it's mostly just because of all the guys, was just the ripped, perfect abs. Well, it's even the older, the guys that are maybe in their 70s. Yeah, that's pretty-- I mean, those guys are pretty built, though. But what'd you think of the movie? I liked it. I liked it after I could definitely-- Because the abs? Because the abs? Yeah, with the abs. Who's the ab campaign? You know what? I saw it on IMAX, though. And I was second row going like this. The ab was like a side like the side of her body. The ab is like one of me. You could climb the abs. David, you actually had a really interesting perspective before we started taping on 300. Well, in my humble opinion, they didn't go into the history of Spartan society now, which is the real interesting thing of the Spartans. Yeah, we're shooting in our buddy's house. David, and he's got all this-- how do you describe some of the stuff you got in your house? Books. Books? Yeah, books. I only read comics, but you've also got-- I've got comics, too. Yeah, you've also got-- You're going to see this. We'll get to comics. We'll get to this. Well, you've also got to go there. I think I do. You want to go there? But we will go there. I'll pull out all the indie old stuff. But I don't do this mainstream, Marvel kind of stuff. Oh, wow. Really? I'll pull some stuff out you never even heard of. I'll educate you kids. So the education is coming, but you're a big history buff. I am. And you were telling us that Spartan society in this movie just wasn't reflected. Well, I don't think they didn't ignore it. I think that probably because of marketing, which is understandable, didn't want to go into it because Spartan society, by today's definition, is gay. I don't think the term reflects Spartan society because the word gay didn't mean what it means today then. It was just a different way of where a society were. The love between a man and a woman and a man and a man was just perceived completely differently. And that, to me, is the interesting thing about Spartan society. It doesn't reflect anything that exists on the planet today. And it's just amazing that it worked for so long and obviously worked. They didn't touch on it at all. The movie was pretty gay. [LAUGHTER] Come on. That's terrible. That's so much more hard on the film. Graham, how dare you? You'd be trying to be a little more sensitive, like Gilmore. I'm sorry. So "Blazer Glory," what did you think? I actually really enjoyed the movie. Why'd you like it, though? I just thought it was funny as hell, the whole thing. But the first parts had so many failed jokes that were just like-- Not for me, buddy. Yeah, but let me interject here. And I think this is a common thing with comedies is that when you get an actor like Will Ferrell or an Adam Sandler or anybody like that, you're going to see it for that actor, for the character that actor creates. And I'll be the first one to jump up. Anything Will Ferrell is in, I want to see. He is just funny. I'm totally in accord with that. And he's kind of like, say, well, the story, this, that, whatever, it didn't work, it didn't matter. I was there to see Will Ferrell be Will Ferrell, and that was worth it. But after seeing that movie, I realized the script totally sucked. And if they didn't have the ridiculously great cast that they did have, it wouldn't have been as good at all. They didn't even have Will Ferrell. If they didn't have Will Ferrell. Will aren't that's in it? Any pollers in it? They made their characters. The characters would not have been as good at it. Correcting Nelson, that his existence was just hilarious in that movie. Oh, it was like a coach. The girl from the office? Jennifer Fisher. She's my top 10. Jennifer. I still haven't seen her. Oh, really? I know. People are asking for-- Yeah, actually British one. I like it. People are asking me. Have you seen me? Oh, yeah. People are asking you. People are asking you. Oh, yeah. But do you see the office? What do you think of the office? I like the British version a lot better. Why am I here? More? Yeah, well, my family's half British. Why am I half of my family British? So I'd like the British humor a little more than-- OK, let's get back. --the little brown-- Bye. Come on over here. Oh, yeah. See, most women want me closer to them. I'm not just spending a few minutes with me. So, yeah. So you like the office? It's pretty good. So I had Jenna Fisher. And who else did it have, John? John was in the middle of telling me why he liked the movie. He did not have any points. So he left. I did have points. What were your points? Come on. Come on. Bring it. Come back to it. Bring it. Come on. We love you. What's the letter? I'm honest. No. You know how some comedies get really dull in between the big set pieces? Yes. Especially the last two will fail. This one, I didn't think, had that. I felt like Tyler Daganite somewhere towards the end of the second act had a lot of slow parts. Yeah, totally. This one, I didn't feel had any of that. I was completely invested in this rivalry between the two of them. Yeah. OK. I'll see that. And the tiny little pieces between the set pieces work for me. Right. The training. OK. The training ones are the complications that they get thrown by the opposing team. All right. Each of those things work for me. Mm-hmm. None of them were boring or lame. Like, sometimes in an Adam's, in like an awesome powers movie, you don't feel it. Really? What did you guys say? I mean, it hits the dog hair. Anchorman's good. I thought it was a real lie. I think it hits the movies that you have to maybe see a couple times before you actually do things. You have to see it in a big group, I think. What are you doing? It really also kind of depends. Do you want to watch this? Please switch it up. Yeah. I think Anchorman kind of comes to the same thing where the overall story is not really there. And you're just, you're paying the money to just see will fail be worth. Yeah. Once again, it comes up with some funny, funny things in the movie. It almost relies too much on being random, you know? Absolutely. Totally. This one I didn't think relied completely on being random. Will Ferrell was definitely the best part of the movie though. I feel like a great joke. I just had such an infection with him too. Oh, so good. I wanted to hug him. Yeah. Well, that's just a good script and just good writing in general. Yeah. That was awesome. See, he did not like this movie. He despised. I didn't despise it. It just didn't think it was very great. I'm like, egh. I wouldn't recommend saying it. I did. I did. I'm going to go back to you on every single movie you see. But usually when I'm wrong. There's a movie you see. You see when the girl having a better mood. I'm going to go back to that. Why so will it affect you? Well, there's the... Ooh. I only got a female perspective on the show. No. You're making it out. Yeah. There's the movie that you see completely unrelated to your current situation. You go into a movie and you're in it. Right. Then there's the self-conscious movie going to experience where you're sitting there next to somebody and you don't know where it's going to go and you're more involved in that whole deal. And you're kind of distracted. You're completely distracted. You're completely focused. Does that work? Yeah. You know, it's my explanation for the two different movies. So you're not? Yeah. Well, you go on a date like first date and you're sitting next. Yeah. You're kind of thinking. There's nothing. But do you think that personally... Do you tend to laugh more or less when you're with someone, when you're on a date and you go see a comedy? Because... I don't think... I think I laugh the same. You're with me. Laughing. Yeah. But if it's... You actually laugh like a girl. But if it's... You're not going to move. Thank you. Yeah. I think that my point is when I think taking a date to a movie is probably the worst choice. Because you can't talk. Can't talk. Right. It's not a place to take a date. Huh. It's a place to take the girl you've been going at with for a long time and then... You've been tired of talking to her. Yeah. And you're just like, "Let's go out, baby." And you go to a movie. The girl I know we did... That's for like three years. Yeah. So all you guys, if that's where you're taking your girl, that's what's going on. Yeah. So you want to take a date somewhere? Where do you take a date? I want you to take a date. Where do you take your date? Other. That's the whole thing with romance that most men just don't get. You've got to put some effort into it. Yeah. Yeah. Take notes. And take notes. You do have to be cute. But beware of doing something that I did once, which was taking someone out on something that I usually wouldn't do. Which is where. Yeah. I mean, I'm not really much of a dancer. I know I have the body. But I'm usually not much of like, "Yeah." And we went. And once I, one of the first places I met some girl was this place called Club Bang. I'm sorry. I'm kidding. I told you. I told you. Yeah. Sorry, audio listeners. And Club Bang is this club that has three separate rooms. A hip-hop room. A room. A rock room. And like an indie-pop, like, modern room. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Have you been debating? No, I haven't. This sounds great. And you banged it up. All these parts out there in history books. All these Spartans in history books. Or Spartan history books. Anyway, so we went there and we danced, right? And we had a good time. Now she was a little tossed. What? No, we don't work. And I don't usually do. I spend most of my time either walking around, sitting down, watching movies, or reading comics. So, taking this girl out to Club Bang, which just sounds like a creepy place to invite someone. Did you want to go Club Bang with me? It's like, yeah, I guess. But, yeah, we went dancing. And we had a lot of fun, but then from there on out, it was just kind of like... That was a bad joke. That was a bad joke. That was all I know. So, do something creative and cute. What was that? If you're going to take a girl on a date, take her somewhere that you know. So, be careful. Don't explore and be cute, but don't go outside yourself. Have it reflect you. Be yourself. Learn from me. Learn from me. Do not go to Club Bang. You got the Getty here. Great place. You got the Griffith Observatory. Great place. Trip out to the desert for some stargazing. Great place. Don't look at me, dude. That's pretty cool. Two gardens for a weekend. Great place. David's been working on this for a while. This is good. I hope you guys are writing this down. I'm going to go back. I'm going to write this down. I'll give you this. A coup de gras here. You got the San Bernardino. There's a valley where they launch hot air balloons. You can rent a hot air balloon at sunrise in an oversized basket. They serve you champagne brunch as the sun's coming up in a hot air balloon. No, I think most girls would really like that. Really? Most girls would like to get up at four in the morning. I'll be there. Jane, what's your worst date ever? Ooh. My worst date. I don't know. Honestly, I don't think I've ever had a worst story bad date. I've never really been a dateer. Right. I'm a serial relationship girl. Straight to marriage. Yeah, that's my thing too. You say hi to me? We're dating. I date like once between relationships. I go on like one date and then the second date is always that. Okay, wait. I did have a bad date once. This was back in high school. Nice. And I remember it being really uncomfortable and not wanting to be there the whole time. And for whatever reason, we switched driving, you know, when you get out in the car and then we switched positions and he went to Kiss Me. And I remember it was like slow mugs that I didn't want to. Oh, yeah. Thanks, squishy. Oh, did you give him the cheek? Oh, I think he kissed him. Oh, yeah. He went, but it wasn't really tight-lipped and just like, I'm not into this. It was really squishy and like, oh, that's like, I said that. Did he like lick your red lips beforehand? Go for the tongue. I don't remember. I don't remember. But that dude remembered that before. He was writing about it on the dog. She repressed that. That was back. She had to go through years of therapy to forget that we just resurfaced that. I'm so sorry. Maybe I'm so sorry. So let's bring it back to movies mainly. So John Heater in this movie. Oh, you're so gone. Sucked. I ate John Heater in general. I love him as Napoleon Dynamite, but that he is stuck in that role. There is not one movie that he's been in since then where he's not done one of these. Oh, really? Type of thing. He's in a Keanu phase. I feel like this one broke him out of that. For me. Wow. It's kept him in there, I think. He's very much a Keanu. I think he'll need a matrix. He'll need a matrix. He'll need a matrix to break him out of that. Oh, yeah. He'll get a matrix. Can you imagine John Heater? John Heater. He drinks four. Ninja Cheerleader two? Yeah. You could be coach. That's him. Yeah. So speaking of Ninja Cheerleader, let's get down to it. Mind if I play the trailer? Play it. What do you want? Where is Hiroshi? Come on, sugar. Make it easy on yourself. Please. I hate to see a grown-down cry. It's so humiliating. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. I hate to see a grown-down cry. Sweetie. You don't even have balls. Not yet. That was the trailer to Ninja cheerleaders. What are you doing? Why are you even here? I don't know. I actually like you here for support and taking over the show. Let's talk about the movie. You wrote it? I did. Where did it all come from? Let's start at the beginning. Well, I think an independent film when you're trying to break out, you're not going to get your Academy Award $40 million picture for your first go. For me, as a writer, it became, well, what can I write that I can do for a modest budget and get something done that will be marketable? It kind of comes down to horror or comedy. Although I do have a nice horror, which is what we go into production next later in the year, I didn't want to cheapen my horror script, where I knew when Ninja cheerleaders, I could do it at a much more modest budget. It was a fun idea. It's Ninja cheerleaders. It's just a no-brainer. It's just fun. The thing is to make it fun and to make it funny. I think we accomplished that with some great lesbians. How about yourself, Jenny? How did you get involved? Was there a casting notice put out? My agency sent me, it was last minute. I think I was, he said, can you make it to the audition this morning in a couple hours? Usually you get the call the day before at least. I went in that day and I had just gotten the sides and read and they asked me to come to the callbacks later that day. I went and it was kind of, we were reading with all these different actors and just stayed for a couple hours. Ten a little bit of time on the casting couch. Oh, sick. No, David. Sorry. No, literally you guys are so good at setting up those cameras. It's a good experience. Shh. It's funny though when you're auditioning because you definitely feel the chemistry with the other actors and that always ends up who you're cast with. Yeah. You feel it and I guess people see it so. Was it obvious to you just watching that these girls were above and beyond with the other? It was obvious. Yeah, we really lucked out with casting. And it's extremely difficult to cast a sag indie film because the pay isn't there for the actors or for anybody. So generally you're dealing with the less experienced actors and we've spent a lot of time on casting on this. And it is kind of funny that Jenny came in on the last day at the last minute. I assumed for her kind of on a well cow go and she walked in and she read and me and the producers are like, "Yep, she's got it." And we kept her around and we kept switching up. We reduced it down to about 20 actors and we would just switch them around and see who had the best kind of feeling. I think we read every character that day. Because we knew we wanted Jenny so we just kept her with other actors. You played Georgia Kay's role. I read with that. And now coming from Ninjutsu was the transfer to acting hard for you. It was quite easy actually because you know I grew up doing it. How long have you been acting? People ask me that all the time and I guess I took my first acting class in 7th grade. I did my first play in 8th grade and that's when I knew I loved it. What? Mission possible. Mission impossible. Mission possible. It was fun. It was fun. But what was the actual fighting hard for you to learn? I loved it. What did you do to put the actress through it? We ran through. We had a boot camp at 5, 6 in the morning. 6 in the morning. In Venice the first day it was dark outside and it was the windiest day in LA I think since I've moved here and there was sand everywhere tilting. That's probably what you mean by training. Exactly. It was fun though. We did 3 weeks of training with the traditional Japanese swordman. And then the stunt choreographer, the cheer choreographer and the dance choreographer. The whole dancing. Not all different people. Oh wow. The whole one guy just cast him. We looked for one guy. Wasn't available. That's like the guy you get Rob Schneider to play. You know what I mean? All those movies. Rob Schneider ends up playing. Rob Schneider ends. How hard did you do? Is there any time that you actually got hurt on the set? No. No. You did the hurt. It's right. Yes. I was sore though every day of rehearsal and I work out a lot. I run a lot but we were doing pole dancing and you're using muscles. You're not usually using it. I was sore probably every day after. But they did knock out a few stuntmen by accident. I actually gave someone, I think, Maitlyn gave someone a fat lip and I accidentally hit a guy on the forehead. But they were really... She's been there for getting an incident. Oh and I gave David a fat lip. That was me. Never mind that. Did you do a cameo? I did a cameo where she hits me and she really did hit me. But it was okay. It was five in the morning. We'd been shooting all night outside. It was like 30 degrees and we were all in tank tops. And I was, my body was... So this was a potential then. I think it was intentional. I think it was her way of this director who's been screwing me a whole bunch of these. I should be sleeping in. Here you go. Oh! Busted his lip. You shooting him eating? Look at this. We have... It was nice enough to bring cheese and bread and salami. Give it a whole dozen. You can pick. Do you hear you want to? I don't know. You just have red bite down on that whole thing. No, she has to eat from all that training. I actually did gain a lot of muscle. I was drinking herbal life. Potentially the whole time, which were actually really good. And what has happened? How long did you take to shoot the film? Four weeks to shoot? We've been in post for three weeks. And where is the movie now? Because we showed the trailer. You guys threw the trailer up. It came out of nowhere. I think this creep actually linked it to me first. Well... I don't even know what you were googling when that came up. I don't want to know. I love it. You found out about the film. I found out from Creepshow 2 over here. Thank you. Welcome aboard. Well, our press was unplanned. I was planning on spending a couple months in post and then we'd go out to the studios with it. But George Takei, one of our actors, was on Howard Stern and was plugging it for a week. And our website blew up. The call started coming in. So we had to kind of literally over one weekend rush a PR campaign, get the website up, get everything going. And then from there, it's blown up. We're only a few weeks in the post. We were talking on the phone and I really think that this is the difference between what Newline tried to do for snakes on a plane and what you guys have organically. Because you can't really fake a cult hit campaign. You can't really fake a grassroots push. It really has to start with some creep googling cheerleaders and then emailing his friend or texting his friend. And then it just has to go word of mouth like that. Because we don't get these. I feel like with snakes on a plane, they put their ads on billboards. They put it. The phone calls. I got a phone call from Sam Jackson. Sam Jackson. Yeah. You can say anything. They tried a lot of our inorganic ways to push it. I think that really the only way to do these things is to have people text each other, have people I am each other, have people email each other and do it that way. Plus it helps you put hot chicks in it and snakes on a plane has the chick from E.L.R. Yeah, it's true. No, she's at best she would be a milf at this point. Right. I mean, come on, it's Juliana Margulies. Would you? I was done with her. Yes, of course. Fingers can't be choosers. It's like Sam Jackson. I'm looking at you. I like mine black. You can get all Spartan like my copy. But, yeah, Juliana Margulies. I was done with her like after the second season of E.R. Right. It's true that somehow Jackson didn't even read the script. He just heard that it was snakes on planes. Well, what did you do? That's what I heard. When you get Ninja cheerleaders, is it what you want to get as an actress? Did you have any reservations being like Ninja cheerleaders? Are you kidding me? I had reservations because I didn't know I hadn't read the script. And, I think the original title. No, we don't even want to talk about it. We have to talk. We have to talk. You have to discuss it. I think we're dancing. We're dancing. We're dancing. We're dancing. It's a one woman show. And, I didn't know if it was... Hang on. You should be good for your audience. I've been fighting this. George McCain talked about it on Stern. We had to get a PG cut over the weekend from just the... Well, we'll go there for a second. I'm just being honest. We'll go there for a second. I've been fighting with our producers for this. It's called Katana. And, you guys can go to my Myspace. Go to my Myspace. Which is... You know, I don't know. You find on search of Myspace. I'm in a mugshot. You can't miss me. Okay. And then you guys can just message me and say you should stay with the original title. Which was Ninja cheerleader strippers. NCS. I had no clue what that stood for. Until I met with David and I said, "What does NCS stand for?" And he started laughing and said, "But you don't know." Oh, it's so funny. This was after the audition. No. Oh, it's so good. He did trailer strippers. What did I audition for? We changed it. I was bullied by everybody into changing it. Thank God. See? See? See? See? See? See? See? See? You see? Ninja cheerleader strippers. See? See? See? See? See? See? I don't know. What if it was exotic dancers? As an actor, I don't want to say something that sounds like a word. You could have called it Ninja cheerleaders paying their way through law school. It's a little long. But are they strippers? Yeah. Okay. I mean, there's no nudity. Did you not watch the trailer, buddy? No. You saw the trailer. You enjoy it? Yeah. Yeah. There's no nudity. There's no language. You know, it's just a fun, funny movie. Which is a girlfriend and great kind of burlesque style lingerie doing their dancers. Our research, we went to 40 Deuce a couple nights, which was awesome. I had never been there. Have you guys ever been to 40 Deuce? No. No, you guys shot in the joint around the corner from my place. Jumbo. Jumbo. Jumbo. He's laughing. We went to Jumbo's too for a reason. Yeah, we went to research Jumbo. That's awesome. Yeah. Alright. Boobies. That's why he's laughing. It's really fun. Are you uncomfortable? I'm blocking you or not. So, how did you get the other actors attached, somebody like George De K? Producers did that, you know, through our casting agent. Just the normal way. Sent the script out. So we'd love for you to do the part, and George wanted to do it. It was great. So let's talk a little bit about just the plot of the movie. I don't think we've talked about what the movie is actually about. What do these girls have to do? Well, it's a pretty simple story. There are three girls, freshman year at college, and the armpit of colleges around the world. And they want to go to an Ivy League school. So in one day they have to cheer at the big game, do well in finals. It's just the last day of school, rescue their since age. George De K has been kidnapped by the mob and get that all done by midnight so they can win the all-city strip off for the final money they need to get to an Ivy League school and get out of their down and out town. All the while, you know, dodging your parents and the nosy cops and the mobsters and creepy coaches and every other oddball character. So this is talking to Mary. It's a lot of fun. That's basically how I got into Penn. Yeah. Well, I went a little further. Oh, that's cool. That was good. I thought I recognized it. I got addicted. And then I went to Columbia. I got addicted. All right. Okay, so let's talk a little bit of news. We can talk about these cheerleaders. We could. We could. So, like, Cal, we will. We will. Okay. I hope we won't. Because we're going to hit comics and I'll be like, "Is there going to be comics?" We'll hit video games and say, "Is there going to be video games?" But, um, the news this week that is big for us, Geeks, is that X-Files, a second movie, the rumor that it's coming out in 2008, did you watch X-Files? I watched X-Files. I was a big X-Files fan. Did you see the movie? I saw the movie. I really liked the movie. I think this movie still pretty much holds up. If you were to watch it now, it would still be a pretty, pretty cool movie, I think. Do you like X-Files? What do you think of X-Files? I haven't seen one frame of X-Files ever and I'm telling you guys right now. There is a big gas that just went out through the Geeks community. I hear you. I have not seen one frame of X-Files ever, even when my project goes out. Come on! X-Files? X-Files, anybody? Yes! I don't watch X-Files. We've been. What, X-Files? Any new movie. Either or, because they're making a second movie. They're making a second movie. I've got news. I've got news. I've got a tape over there that I've saved for years. It says best X-Files ever. What is on it? One more in the episode. One more in the episode. One more in the episode. One more in the episode is the best X-Files. And you guys can go into the forums at Geekscaped.net and argue about it. In your opinion, what is the best episode of X-Files? Well, for me, my favorite episode was when a utility worker sees a UFO and writes about it and the men in black come and Alex Trebek's one of the men in black. Oh, that's awesome. Was that the later seasons? Because I remember the first few seasons took themselves really seriously, but then the later seasons got like a little quirky. Yeah, this was a shoot. Did you see the one? You guys have to see this one. If you haven't seen this one, it's the episode where Bruce Campbell guest stars. Have you seen this? He was in the round out for the Robert Patrick character. For which one? He came down to him and Robert Patrick. Oh, really? To David DeCovney. Really? Yeah. I'm still waiting on the Red Shoe Diaries movie, but... 10th. That's always my middle school self. Yeah. But yeah, Bruce Campbell came me up. What happened? Red Shoe Diaries made me into a man. You're not there yet, buddy. Thank you. Um, hence is how much I watch it. I, Bruce Campbell is the guest star in this. And he stars as like the devil or a demon who gums on onto the earth. And onto the earth. He's like, the ex-piles hear about some like weird demon baby or something. And do you remember that one? Yeah. And for some reason, whenever anyone was a demon and they were driving, they listened to... What did they... They listened to "I'm Only Happy When It Rains" by garbage. Do you remember that? I don't know. That was good. Because you are not a demon. I don't know. You have to be. It's because the radio played it so many times. Yeah. There's a lot of this. Garbage is good. It's a fitting name for a man. Yeah. So, that's just my personal opinion, thank you. But I would be stoked though because I mean, what the hell has David company been doing since then? No, he's in this upcoming comedy that I'm not going to see. Oh, good. Also, another series that is on its last legs but may have some new life soon is Stargate. Oh, okay. There's a new Stargate series that they're talking about. That's mine. I haven't seen a friend. Yeah. I only saw the Stargate movie. I didn't want to. Executive producer Robert C. Cooper talked about a next series and how many of you out there actually care? I think a bunch of them are raising their hands actually, but their computer is just sitting there with Cheetos in one hand and they would just kind of, because we really, I mean, there is a lot of Stargate fan base, I think. I just haven't gotten into it. It's like Babylon 5. I love that you're just eating like a pregnant woman eating for two. But no, it's like really, it's good taking this away. I know a lot of people do like Stargate. Have you guys ever seen Stargate? Okay, I'll take, no, I haven't. I love the movie. Yeah. The movie was phenomenal. But I think it's just not TV show. Do you guys? I'm in. To lowbrow. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Do you guys watch Fear Net? No, wait. What is it? What is that? It was launched five months ago by Sony, Lionsgate, and Comcast, and it's the number one downloaded multi-platform site for horror thriller movies. No, what is it? And I just finished, let's say short film, but we're doing seven episodes called The Devil's Trade. It'll be airing June 7th on Fear Net. Well, that's actually cool. But this is all fiction stuff? Yeah. And it's being produced by Ghost House, Sam Ramey. Yeah, Sam Ramey is coming. You know that this is the number one site for downloading Geescape episodes. Oh, oh. Yeah. Stupid joke. I got that. I got them there. Yeah. Are you comfortable? I'm going to ask you this. Are you comfortable reading? Talking about comic books. Right now. Briefly. Well, what about the... I don't really want to talk about the Spider-Man 3 International trailer. I do. I really want to talk about this mainstream stuff. Yeah. When I got it, I was going to grab a few of my comics, but the cameras are blocking them right now. So, let's talk about your comics anyway. So... We're moving into comics. Yeah. Spider-Man 3 International trailer is good, but... Let me just... Let me... Let me just... Let me just... Let me... Let me... Let me just wait too much. I'm not a good thriller. Got it. It makes it seem like Venom really is the main bad guy. It completely doesn't show almost any goblin, any sandman. It seems like it's going to be mostly Venom. Who's my least favorite Spider-Man villain? But he's looking. He's cool. His best Spider-Man's... I'm out of the loop. I'm out of the loop! That's why I'm asking. Handsome with questions. Handsome with questions. Handsome with questions. Handsome is my relationship with most women. They're like... She's okay. She doesn't know who Venom is. I thought she was like the best, but now I don't know. I wouldn't put... Okay. I know you want to move on, but I just want to... It's so just Venom, just the last little part of the trailer where you see... He thinks Peter Parker. Yeah. Spider-Man? Yeah, when you see Spider-Man, but you see half Peter, like, you know, his mask is half... He always has to have his face torn... It's like mass torn off at the end of the movie. Half torn off. Always. It's good. I even had a toy with just half. You had it on with it so we could move off of this. Okay. But anyways, there's this part where he's just looking around. He's all scared. And then we've got Venom. Like, you know... Shoot you in food! Venom! What is wrong with you? Shut up! Venom is in the room. And then all of a sudden, Venom just comes and grabs him by the face and then he lifts him up. And if you see a bunch of like, stills or posters or anything that I've seen and so many of those things I've seen, it's like Venom holding Spidey by the face because he's just like, "This is how much bigger I am than you. This is how cool it is." And so, in that respect, I think that they might do Venom a lot of, as much justice as they can for the characters. So thank you for that. I think it'd be good. You can edit all that out though, right? Yeah. Well, I'm gonna see J.R. Robot over here. Let's talk comics. David, what are these indie arc of the Covenant hidden books that you were talking about? Oh, not an arc of the Covenant. Just a little more creative. One of my favorites is Sam Slade Rubble Hunter. Mm-hmm. Ever heard of it? Anyone Sam Slade Rubble Hunter? Who published it? I don't know, one of these indie houses. Jenny. Jenny, I haven't done it. What's it about? Sam Slade, he's a robot hunter. Is that like, Magnus Robot Fighter? Well, these are older. I mean, obviously Sam Slade isn't published anymore. I mean, this is probably 20 years old. You know, it's the most mainstream comic book I ever bought and read regularly was The Watchmen. Right. And that's about as mainstream as I ever went. Which sax ladders make it into the movies? Yeah, exactly. And are you looking for that? If they don't screw it up, you know, I think that's part of the problem with, you know, the transformation of comic books into feature film is they rarely get it right. Right. I mean, the first Batman's were just atrocious. The latest Batman phenomenon. Right. That's what Batman should be. People really hold that first Batman in high regard, the first Tim Burton. And I feel like the movie should have just been named The Joker. Yeah. Because he really tears up the whole script in the whole movie. Right. You watch it really for him. And Bruce Wayne is probably the least interesting part of the whole movie. I agree. And so if you had the chance, somebody sees the film and says, let's give this guy a comic book script because really what you guys are making is sort of a comic book in itself. Exactly. What would be some of the ones that you would be most attractive to? Attractive to? Attracted to? Yeah. Like I just was trying to say. Yeah. I'm getting uncomfortable here. For me, it's an easy answer. But before I answer, I would just say this. To me, it doesn't matter. I mean, it's a storyteller's job to bring something to the story. Right. So if they wanted to give me Batman 7 or Superman 14, it wouldn't matter as long as I had to freedom to bring something to that and make it something. You know, that being said-- A Nicholas Cage. That being said, I want to be doing Speed Racer in a year. Yeah. I think the Rakowski's are doing. Yeah. The rumor is that they've got Emile Hirsch as Speed. I love him. Yeah, but isn't he Speed? It's all rumors because that movie has been greenlit and trashed and greenlit and trashed and greenlit and trashed about 12 times in the last 12 years. Just like another movie I'd love to do Ender's Game. Oh, yeah. Same thing. It's been up and down and up and down and up and down. It really is. Yeah, it keeps going and who knows if it ever is going to happen. I actually had one of our listeners--we talked about Ender's Game and one of our listeners, Martin Cherham in Canada. You--I end with you and said, "Thank you so much for recommending Ender's Game." And if you guys haven't read it, definitely do it. But on the subject of Speed Racer, let's cast it. What would you--Chimp Chimp? CGI. CGI. You'd do CGI for the Chimp? You wouldn't have, like, a trainer? I think you'd have to, yeah. Just to get in the trunk. Well, no, just for the comments. I mean, like every episode of Speed Racer-- This is funny. --Chimp Chimp ends up in the trunk. Yeah, it doesn't matter if he ends up in the trunk. It's just if you want to have some comedy with it and be able to actually tell a little bit of a story with a chimp, I think you're going to need the CGI. And he's going to wear overalls and a hat. Or was that the brother? No, it's Chimp Chimp World, overalls and a hat. I'm not a big Speed Racer fan. Okay, who do you see playing Racer X? Well, Racer X almost doesn't matter. I mean, it would be a voiceover because he's masked all the time. And I mean, Brad Pitt, you want a really recognizable voice who's the actual actor on set. It doesn't matter. You know, it's going to be a voiceover. Okay, Speed. Johnny Depp. They're dead? That's a good one. Yeah, I don't know about that. Anthony Hawkins. You think? Yeah, I don't know. I'm just throwing some out. I would actually make them all Japanese. And, yeah, the Speed Racer movie. Yeah, I'm not that interested in that. I'm really looking forward to the Madman movie that they're rumored to be doing at Troublemaker Studios. Because he was my guy. Yeah, and... Yeah, another one I'd want to do, Halo. (clapping) Graham actually had sex with his Halo last night. Twice. I don't even know. Explain how that goes. Wait, wait, wait. In all honesty, Graham, did you pre-order Halo 3? No. No. Okay. Who would you cast? Who would you cast in Halo? Halo, let's just sit down. But Halo is the same thing? Graham did not have sex with Halo. That's interesting. Doesn't even make sense. But Master Chief, you don't see it. You never see any of their faces, but if it's a voice, can you see them? No, you see the Marines' faces. So the Marines' faces, you want to get, you know, recognizable characters. They're recognizable voice actors. But for the League, for the Master Chief, you never see them. So same thing. You know, Casa Brad Pitt, Casa, whoever has the most recognizable voice. Hugo weaving. That dude Hugo weaving plays Al Rond. He's in every voice-over. No, he's just everything on him. He's in everything. He's supposedly doing Megatron in Transformers. And the thing with that guy, he always looks on camera like he's smelling something really bad. Like in the Matrix movies, and one of the rings, he's always like this. Because he's disgusted with his surroundings. Right. Yeah. Conscious choice by the actor. So the Halo movie, that would be one of your top dogs. Yeah. I think it would almost be better as a big budget miniseries on HBO. You don't think so? My preacher? I don't know. Because I think there's too much to try to cram into one or, you know, I'm sure they do sequels. I got a better idea. I actually pitched this to Microsoft. Which was to do a Halo movie, and then come out with monthly Halo webisodes that continue between the next feature. And then put up the next feature. And then put up the next feature. I think webisodes are going to be the next big. So do we. For the horror film I'm doing later in the year, that's what we're doing. We're starting with a series of webisodes. The film comes out next series of the webisodes. Next film comes out comic book video game. Would you think about doing that with this franchise, Ninja? We don't know. I mean, we're in negotiations with three studios now, and all three studios are saying the same thing. Right. And you're on sequel, sequel, sequel, comic book. Fiona.com, June 7th, The Devil's Trade, and it will be webisodes. It will be seven episodes. Yeah. I'm always talking to people about, like, how do you even write Nielsen's when everybody's time delaying the programming? Everybody's got TiVo. Everybody's got the DVDs. Everything's turning into all the cart, you know? Everything's turning into all the cart. Webisodes is how everything's going to be. Yeah, Nielsen's are done. People just don't want to watch television anymore. They want to do what they want to do. Yeah, but just the data, time of human civilization. I mean, you take our website, for example, when we were on Howard Stern compared to when we were on Andy Dick Show. We can track this. You know, we got it on my laptop with a wireless card. We just sit there and track the hits and where the hits are coming from and how they're getting there. And get so much data, you can really start seeing, well, what works, what doesn't work. And I think that's the key for me as a storyteller with, like, Ninja Cheerleaders II, even would be a good example. Let's say we sign a deal with Sony next week and they're going to release this picture and they want to go next year into Ninja Cheerleaders II. Well, why don't we do a couple of webisodes in between and make each webisode a little bit different and then we can actually gauge what the market wants to see. Well, they'd like this style of fighting better than this style or they wanted more strip routines or more cheer routines. Or they loved this character or they didn't like that character. You can start caring about the cheer routines so much. You like the stripping scene. I would say you've got to wait and see them. Yeah, we can see it, buddy. Pretty sexy six routines there with the cheering. So again, we're getting back over here. We're going to talk about box office poison or indie book. Are you kidding me? Yes, I have to wait. You got to get up, buddy. Oh, okay. I would love to. Okay. Grandma's slowly not getting up. But let's wrap up comics real quick. All right. What were you throwing out real fast? Box office poison. It's like this thick. I have my card and bring it. It's a great book. It's basically about, I would really highly recommend this. It's kind of a, it's kind of a trek. It kind of takes a little while because it's this thick and it actually feels like it's this thick. It's like, oh, it's about, it's like twice as thick as blankets. Okay. It's like, it's about twice. What's it about? It's, it has sort of the same feel as blankets. It's a book that is about, about four people. One guy is a guy who's really unhappy with his job, works at a bookstore and just got out of college with his best friend who's a cartoonist. They move in with two people. One of them is a cartoonist who's a cute Asian girl and then the other guy's his big Jesus look at guy. And basically it's just about them and their lives and they're going in and out of relationships. And I know. It wouldn't really grab me if someone described it to me. But what's the strength? The art, the writing? The strength is the art and the writing. The writing is so good. This writer has so much to say. He has so many conversations pent up in his head that he's had throughout his life. They're so good. You know those indie movies like The Try to Be Really Kind of Clever? Like, like running with scissors? Or any of these? And they're just not very sensitive. Yeah, and they're not very sincere. They come off very trite and very like, oh, that's kind of cheesy. But you know those good moments in those indie movies where you're like, wow, that's exactly what I'm talking about in real life. Yeah, yeah, it's like, this is what I'm looking for. This is a good piece of, that's very related. That's the entire box office poison. That's what box office poison is the entire time. It's really great. It doesn't get old then. It also revolves around the comic book industry and the evils of the comic book industry. And about a writer who writes a character that's a lot like Batman and then gets screwed by his publisher. So that's box office poison. Pick it up. I think the big news in video games and the only thing really to talk about is the Grand Theft Auto 4 trailer. Are you a big GTA player? Did you see the Grand Theft Auto 4 trailer? I didn't. It takes place in 2007 it looks like. All the cars look modern. But you have like an Eastern European type character walking his way. He's making his way into Liberty City. There's a lot of ships, a lot of boats in the trailer. And it is Liberty City. You can see it on the billboards. That answers a lot of questions as to the setting. But the rumor is. Could you do boats in the other games? You could. But not a lot. No. You couldn't really swim until the last game. And the rumor is that Liberty City won't be the only city in the game. But you'll actually be able to traverse by plane or by boat. No. You can do it in three. But now if it's not just Liberty City, but you can also go to my city. You can do it in three. In three there is that one moment where you go to the Liberty City. What do you mean? In three there were different cities. You get in the plane, you fly across different cities. In San Andreas, there's actually a part where you go to Liberty City for that short moment. No, no. But there's other, you weren't in San Andreas. You could go to different parts. You were at Vegas. Vegas. And in the vet. San Francisco. Oh, you're going to love these games. These games are amazing. We had a plane since Sonic. Sonic the Hedgehog. Sonic the Hedgehog. That's awesome. It's awesome. It talks amazing. Did you have a song? Did I have a song? What was your favorite stage song everybody's got? Oh, I don't remember. Dude. Because you play those games so much that when you go to sleep at night you think you forgot that the thing is still on because you can still hear the music. What was yours? The first stage. The first stage. The first stage. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. You don't let the start of the music. 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Although I have seen him do halo and he rips it up. Graham is the best player I know up until I see you play. But David is actually in the Guinness Book of World Records in 1986. He's a decorated video player. What was the game? Yeah, like you guys can see the text. What was the game and tell me the story behind being a world record holder in a video game? Well, it's time pilot 84 and it was back in 8485. And I first job when I was 12 years old was running the arcade. That's one of my first job. Oh, that's so awesome. So got into the video games and there was a contest in California I came out to and then placed in which got me on the US video game team. Fred Savage of Brother? Wizard based on your life. No. I know it's kind of hard to believe. But there was for a couple of years a US video game team and we got to fly. Oh wow. That's so sick. I think our audience loves you. You, not so much. You're kidding. They love you. They love you, Sonic. But this is some street cred that you're getting right here. I'm 15, the contest is in Vancouver, Canada. And my dad gives me a credit card and they stick me on a plane and I'm on my own. I'm the youngest person on the team. We show up there the first night. Billy Campbell from King of Kong is on the team. Billy Mitchell. Billy Mitchell. And we show up there first night. There's this pretty rich guy who owns most of the arcades in Vancouver. I need you to walk on my back. No. He takes us all out to this restaurant. And his young girlfriend who kind of took a liking to me because I was the youngest person there. Was it your first? We'll get to that later in the story. And we're at a restaurant and she orders a white Russian. And I said, what's that? And she goes, I'll get you one. I'm 15, she orders me a white Russian. And I start sipping it. And she goes, no, like this. And she slams it. Wow. So I start slamming. And the rest of the night was just like that. We were at the four star Hilton Hotel. He did this. He's drunk. He's drunk. Look at me. He did this drunk. And they threw us out of the hotel first night. So next night we get stuck in kind of a lower class hotel. We lasted there two nights because, you know, it's all young rambunctious teenagers. And then they threw us out of there. And then eventually we wound up in one of these CD motels. And we almost made it through the whole week there. But the last night they threw us out in blacklisted us. And we had to sleep on the arcade floor for our last night. What's great is that people like Popeye, and what's the guy in Vegas who killed a bunch of people during the NBA. He had some people shot during the NBA All-Star game. NBA pro football players, pro basketball players don't get kicked out of hotel rooms with the speed that you guys did as a bunch of teenage video game players. Yes, that is great. And the point I'm trying to make. That's the point I'm trying to make. Popeye Jones. And you know, we all picked up local girls and... When you were 15? Yeah. You know, come on. I didn't have sex. But you know, first time I did anything with a girl was in the back office behind the arcade. Did you say that with the U.S. video games? Please! Now you have to go right off, right? But I will say when I got back, I got back and was starting high school. And I get back having now one and gonna be in against the real records thinking, "Yeah, chicks are gonna dig this." Let me just say, not so much. That's awesome. Welcome to my everyday. Not so much. Dude, except Gilmore doesn't anymore. I come back from summer sans records. Got my new parachute pants on. Are there any pictures of this? Yeah, I'm sure there's pictures. And I got my Guinness World Records thinking, "Chicks and the cheerleaders in school are gonna dig me." Wow. Yeah, no. No, not so much. Well, thank you for touching on that story. We actually have some style on our own website. People in the threads, in the forums. Geeks have done that. I've started a t-shirt thread to start designing our t-shirt, our official t-shirt. It was started by one of our users. My name is, check this out, Frylock54. He started the thread and threw up a couple of examples of his own work. There's a couple really great t-shirt designs by Sexy Pixels. Sexy Pixels? Sexy Pixels. You know that guy? Oh, okay. Yeah, he seems like a good kid. And Sloppy Bunny, they're throwing together some really good designs. If you guys are really good with Photoshop, artists, whatever, who knows, you might be able to design the next Geeksape shirt. Go on geekscape.net and sign up for the forum, submit some news, make some friends, and submit some t-shirt designs. As always, check out netriver.net. Type in the promotional code "Gillmorek". You get 10% off your hosting plan. And they're very nice. They're very happy with the way that we are performing for them. I'd like to say, too, I cannot wait for this movie to come out. The trailer is awesome. We would love to push it in our new magazine section. We'd love to push the movie. And we're excited to see it come out. Thank you. Three studios, huh? One of them wins. Just put them in a cage together with weapons. That's what our agent wants to do. I was not for that. But he thinks we have to put them all together and see what happens, you know? But the movie's going to come out. This summer. Yeah, we'll all be there, especially after that video game story. I mean, that's the thing with our listeners. And with me, too, I watched the trailer and I'm like, "Oh, three high girls. George to K!" Wow! I mean, I had a complaint at Wizard World that I was interviewing people while they were hot chicks in the background. And I'm like, "Yeah, but..." That's the only place where that woman was the owner. That's the only place that the boy playing makes. I love how Mark Singer, the Beast Master himself, he had all these people around him. And then you walked by one of the Playboy playmates just alone. Just sitting there with all her pictures. Just as much as I appreciate your hard work in the film. But that's fine. George to K is a legend. In one day, you will become a legend as well as long as you continue your sword mastery. And yeah, well, I'm really looking forward to this movie. It's fun. You're going to enjoy it. So thanks for checking us out. Next week, we've got a review of Grind House and I'm joined by some Grind House experts. And you're invited, Gilmore, but damn you and your ability to take over the show. We'll see you guys next week. Thank you guys so much. - Thank you. - Have a good one.