Geekscape

Geekscape 11: Meet the Geekscape Team- Graham

Guest Co-host: Geekscape's Resident Jokester Graham! - Reviews: Reno 911: Miami and Zodiac. Trailers: Mr. Brooks(on accident) and King of Kong News: Assassins Creed the movie, Cruise in Watchmen, Brad Bird directing a live action film! Comics: Bendis and Maleev strap in for Halo the ongoing, Geoff Johns' Green Lantern and BKV's final Runaways! Video Games: Wing Commander Arena is announced just in time to save my mind and Grahamexplains his competitive gaming streak. Also, what stand up DVDs areworth buying? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 06 Mar 2007
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Guest Co-host: Geekscape's Resident Jokester Graham! - Reviews: Reno 911: Miami and Zodiac. Trailers: Mr. Brooks(on accident) and King of Kong News: Assassins Creed the movie, Cruise in Watchmen, Brad Bird directing a live action film! Comics: Bendis and Maleev strap in for Halo the ongoing, Geoff Johns' Green Lantern and BKV's final Runaways! Video Games: Wing Commander Arena is announced just in time to save my mind and Graham
explains his competitive gaming streak. Also, what stand up DVDs are
worth buying?

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

ABC Wednesday, October 9th. You all can play all day. We want books. We want paper towels in the classroom. Bet you won't raise this too. I'm still waking up the paper towels. Abbott Elementary returns with the new season. We asked the district for more after school programs. They gave us $50 for class beds instead. Critics cheer. Abbott Elementary continues to be one of the funniest and most beloved shows on TV. What y'all doing out there? Taking bribes. Proud of y'all. Abbott Elementary, the season premiere Wednesday, October 9th on ABC and stream on Hulu. Hello. This is the Zodiac Killer. You're watching Deep Skate. You know, I'm really a nice guy. Kind of misunderstood. You understand that, right? Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this week's episode. I love cotton candy. Hey, I love cotton candy, too, but not nearly as much as I love NetRiver.net. Go on there. Get yourself a website. Make your own blog. Start a community. Run your own game server. They're a tier one data center that is cheaper than anything else you're going to find on the web. NetRiver.net. Type in the promotional code Gilmore. You get 10% off all standard hosting, dedicated servers, and VPS offerings. Also, check this out, ValleyWag.com. They are running the hot vlogger of the internet contest. And I'm one of the contestants. Please vote every day by deleting your cookies. Tell all your friends, if I win, you guys are going to see the funniest, accepted speech video ever made. So definitely go and vote every single day, ValleyWag.com. Enjoy the episode. I love you. What's up, guys? Welcome to Deep Skate episode 11. Check out my new glasses. Why don't you turn them on, Graham? I can't find it in the switch. Here, turn them on. You got them on? Prepare to be amazed. How cool is that? These are my new Spider-Man spelunking glasses. And I got these at work the other day. Somebody did love them, so I got them. I think they're pretty cool. Don't you? Yeah. Nothing, you know. Whatever-- I just like those. This is my good buddy, Graham. He's a major part of Deep Skate. I decided that in all the rotating co-hosts, start featuring some of you guys that-- I mean-- Don't love me with Gilmore. Well, Gilmore is part of it, and Vijay is part of it. But we have rotating co-hosts. And you guys always do stuff behind the scenes, throw stuff in, peek in every now and then. Just tell them. Why not do an episode with you? Tell them why. Tim Smith wouldn't call you back. It's true. Well, he started his own podcast with his own buddy from high school and childhood, so-- Seriously. I'm bringing out a childhood friend. I want to put line of tape down. OK, OK. Don't worry about it. That's the line of demarcation, do not cross. OK, for those audio listeners, Graham is upset that my leg is touching his. I'm not upset by it. I'm excited. Watch. I give it 30 seconds before he's rubbing it again. Graham, why don't you give some background on us or friendship? Well, it all began. Well, you know, last week we had my mother. Last episode we had my brother on, who was your grade in school. Yeah, so I was basically best friends with Paul. And by default. I was always hanging around. Yeah, and we-- I helped you through Monkey Island. That was when we started putting it together. That was-- I was two years old. I was like trying to bridge-- I was always the kid that was like bridge the gap between the nerds and the semi-cool kid. And I know what category I was in. And there's always that thing where, when you have your friends over-- By the way, that's a complete lie. If somebody says they were bridging the gap, that means they were not popular. It was not popular. I had friends. Hey, DJ, have you heard this? I know you guys have heard this. When someone separated in at a high school a couple years-- Right here. Yeah, right here. It's the touch. When you're at a high school a couple years and you start talking to people who have been separated from high school a couple years, they always say, oh, I was friends with everyone. I was kind of in the middle. I was kind of friends with everybody. That is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard about. So would you say that? No. There are some people that-- Mr. Westlake right here. Look at this guy. Oh, god, I wish there was pictures somewhere. You could just flash up right now. And that's where you would throw it in. I do have a picture. I do have a picture. I'm going to do notes while I do this. One of the jobs that Graham does on the show is he stands off camera and writes notes down for all the inserts that you guys see. Hilarious. Some of them make it-- Like this one, change your life. Pretty funny. Some of them make it and some of them don't. That one definitely did. And that's kind of what you do. But what's funny-- And PR, put together the press kits and those. What's funny is that you and Paul were friends, but our family's kind of inter-- Yeah, it's a story. What was the story? A tale of destiny, I believe. What happened? Where'd you grow up? I grew up. Get out of here. I grew up in San Antonio, leg. It's cool. In San Antonio. And when I was eight years old, I took a ski trip with the family to Rodosa, New Mexico. Rodosa, we're our mom lives now, funny enough. I know that. And we were on that ski trip. And randomly, we were all in the same-- it was all three of us, I think. In the same ski classes. In the same ski class, the whole pizza french fry class. Pizza french fry. And-- You're going to have a very bad time. But there's a picture, for whatever reason. We were buddies, little buddies in the class. And so our families got together for dinner one night. And there's a picture somewhere. I think your mom has it. Because it was a picture that my mom took. I think she gave it to your mom. Of the three of us sitting at a table. And Paul, she's like a little fat Paul, drinking this hot chocolate. No, John, you were drinking the hot chocolate. And I was always the kid who was like, come on. Don't take my picture. We want to immortalize memories for. And not only enough, you lived in San Antonio. We lived in Austin. Yeah, and they lived in Austin. And then you moved to San Diego. Then I moved to San Diego. We were never going to see you again. Yeah. And then I moved-- my dad got another job in Austin. So that's me moving. And coincidentally enough, it was the same school district. Same school district. And we were like, you were the kid that we were skiing with a couple of years ago. Yeah, but I wasn't the first day of school there at Forest Trail. Forest Trail. Forest Trail. My mom dressed me up. That wasn't Mr. Forest Trail. She dressed me up in like this nice outfit. Back to school. But it was like February. And so it was like-- Would it be like this? No, it was like a button-down shirt, a rugby kind of shirt, and those khaki pants that puffed out the sides with the pleated, whatever. And then for whatever reason, in Austin, it was the cool thing for all the kids to play soccer during lunch. I never played soccer in my life. So I get there. I'm like, all right, this is what I got to do. I'm on this team with 29 other kids versus those 30 kids. Because everybody has to play. Yeah. And literally, I'm just standing. Oh, you can't even see me now. But just standing around with my hands in my puffy pockets. And all of a sudden, the ball comes right at me. It was straight out of a movie. The ball rolls because 60 people are down at the end of the field. Nobody was playing. Get out of here. Nobody was playing goalie. The ball just rolls up to-- oh, that's what you're doing. I'm trying to get the dogs over to you, right? And so the ball comes right up to me. And I'm like, all right, I'm in. This is your moment. This is your moment. I'm going to score a goal. And then we're going back to home room. And they're going to be talking about me for decades. How awesome the new kid is, like an airborne. And so I lean back, try to channel all my kickball experiences on the team. This is it. This is your big moment to impress. With it completely on mud, falling in the mud, ruin the new clothes, start crying, and then, and branded as, I can't remember the name, but it was something pretty bad. It was embarrassing. Whatever. How long did that pull you? It's kind of set a precedent for the rest of my life. But then I remember going into the bathroom right after that and seeing your brother, who I didn't know was your brother at the time. And some other kid, literally, on their hands and knees, looking under the stall in the bathroom. What's that smell? What's that smell? And I'm like, that's the funniest thing. Because somebody was obviously in there. And it was obviously a teacher. I just remember, like, wow, that's pretty funny. And then it just kind of became friends. And I got you in a monkey island, and then you started hitting me up for tips. No, you didn't get me in a month. You found that on your own? I was a closeted computer game guy. But all the games back there were those-- [BARKING] --click, shut up, were the point-and-click games. Right, the adventure game. And like, it was always loom. It was the one that somehow-- I think it was my sister who got me started on those forever. But then monkey island came out, and I was like, I can't figure out what to do. I got to get past this voodoo place, and I got all these-- I got to make the doll. I got to get everything together. And I literally, for like three weeks, trying to figure this out. And I just was like, it's easy. Blink, blink, blink, done. No, literally, you said-- I remember, because you had one of those crackers, like, cheese cracker things. And you're eating them, and I go, hey, how do you get past that? And you're just like, oh, put it on the Juju bag. Like, some cool guy? Not cool. Oh, like this. Like this. Cool. Oh, all you guys want this right now, but you're not going to get it. 20 years later. About 20 years later. So let's talk about some of the movies we saw this weekend, this past week. We went to see Reno 9/11. Reno 9/11 Miami, which is like, kind of your bag. Your bag is like, you're part of the whole improv thing. You're a big fan of improv sketch comedy. Right now, you're taking classes at-- The Upright Citizens Brigade Theater. Which is right-- hey, we're back, OK. And-- I wanted that down. OK. Grandma, it's OK. Let me do my job. Well, you just said what to put up there. And I watched through the episode. So that was kind of a reminder. That was something completely different. OK. Well, hopefully you'll remember. Like this. Anyway, you're a big fan of this kind of humor. Me, sort of. I like scripted comedy a little more. But I definitely wanted to see this movie, because I enjoy the show. We went to see it. I would really rather not talk about the cameos in the movie, even though you know that they've been in a lot of-- Well, they're written up in articles and reviews. But for me, I didn't read any of them. And I really loved them. The cameos. And there's some great cameos in the movie. That was the first voice crack of this episode, by the way. One thing you'll remember-- There will be many more. There'll be at least two more, leg, OK. One thing you're going to learn is that Grandma's voice cracks a lot. Almost 27 years old. And about halfway through puberty, it seems. So what'd you think, buddy? Like it-- Like it shrug or? I think what I said to you the other day, I think it would have been better as like-- because literally, it's just the TV show. There's a really loose plot line way. Yeah, it would have been better, I think, if they-- Basically, here's the idea. Let me just do it so I can play the trailer. The Reno Police get invited. I'm invited below. It's down there. The Reno Police get invited to a big convention in Miami. When they show up, they realize that they've been left off for some reason for going into the convention. But a bad guy has let out some poison or some disease. What do you think it may be? Mr. Big. Let out some contagious disease or something. So they have to quarantine the convention center. All the real cops are stuck inside. The only people who are left are rejects from Reno. And they have to patrol Miami, keep it safe, until an antidote is found, or the cops are going to die. And that's kind of the whole plot. It's really loose, though. And it's just pretty as much as a loose spring work. But that's what the show's at. Yeah, it's exactly what the show's like today. It's basically a framework for them to do little pieces like the show. Yeah, and I think it would have been better if they had done a mini series on Comedy Central. Because I think there was parts when it was just like, all right, we get it. The guy's wearing shorts. They don't have to go back to it. All right, they're all-- The guy-- which one directed it? Ben Grant. OK. Deputy Jr. He did this long, drawn out scene like-- Oh, yeah. Where you've seen the different rooms in the hotel. Yeah. And it's showing a little bit. It was pretty cool. Showed all the different characters and how they interacted. I liked it. Yeah, there's one big long shot where you see all the whole side of the hotel and everybody's different rooms. And you follow them back and forth through their rooms in one big long shot. And you get pieces of how everybody's going to end up that night as they all go to sleep, which means basically for these characters, masturbate. What? And there are a lot of jokes like that. I thought for the most part, it was just a fun movie. It's definitely a rental. But it's a rental that I think people are going to quote. What do you think? I think it's very good that the-- I guarantee it took probably less than a couple million to make, and it's going to do much better than that. It's made $15 million as of the taping of this show. So it's definitely a profitable movie. The other movie that we went to see was David Fincher's Zodiac. This is the movie-- This Morning Fresh Review right here. As of the recording of this, we would see it earlier this morning. And this is about the Zodiac killer, who pretty much stalked the Bay Area for the first bit of the '70s, late '60s. And over the course of almost three decades, nobody knew who had done it over the years. I was twice, by the way. That was the second voice break. No one knows who it is to this day. Still, to this day. Because the movie shows how one murder took place in Napa County, the other, was in Modesto. Vallejo. And so like all the different jurisdictions, and did I say that word right? I think he said it right. Basically, what you see is these characters in the movie. The through line kind of follows three of them. The Robert Downey Jinger character, who's a homicide reporter for a paper in-- He doesn't age well. An actual police officer played by Mark Ruffalo. And Jake Gyllenhaal, Jake Gyllenhaal, Jake Gyllenhaal. Didn't age at all. Yeah, who's supposed to age 25 years over the course of the movie, doesn't age at all. And he's just the cartoonist for the San Francisco paper. And he's really the guy who gets the most passionate about it. That's the thing. The movie's not about the zodiac killer. That's kind of like a background thing. It's about the people who get sucked into the case and how it takes over their lives. You see it kind of deteriorate Robert Downey into nothing. And then you see Jake Gyllenhaal going down the same path. And you see Mark Ruffalo's career start to become derailed by his obsession of this case. There was. They started the movie off. Did you notice the kid who got shot at the beginning? The first victim, that's right. That was Minkus from Boy Meets World, the little nerd kid who was always like, I did my homework. What about you, Sean? And then Sean was like, shut up. I'm tough. Have you ever thought Minkus was annoying? You guys are going to love this movie. Oh. The shot, but he lived. Yeah, that character ends up living. And there was one scene. Because there's a couple-- What did you think of the movie? Did you enjoy it? I liked it. I really liked it. I really liked it. I thought it was a little long, but I really liked it. I think I thought-- That stabbing scene was foul. Early on, there's a scene where you see somebody definitely getting stabbed. And of course, me as the annoying guy in the audience, I have to turn to Graham and go. Yeah, I get it, John. I get it. I get it. Go ahead, keep going as I touch your leg. I don't know, I think it was definitely a David Fisher thing, whereas the first murder has that the herdy, goody man. The song, yeah. And it ends with that song. It's definitely used the time period as its own kind of character. And I thought the set design was really cool. It's basically the age when it found old buildings. It had that old look to it, that old buildings with the old look. Well, I mean, it has an architecture. There's a really cool transition where they're basically doing a computer generated time lapse of the trans-American building. Oh, yeah. That was cool. I thought that was pretty neat. But you're right, the time is definitely a character in it. For you guys who love David Fincher based off of things like Fight Club and Seven, I think this is the most restraint he has been stylistically. Was she shaking your head no? Do you like this? Oh, OK. Laura's sitting over here. That's because of Fight Club's great movie, Seven Great Movie. Panic Room didn't see-- Panic Room, I was going to-- Carolina with Cornrose. Panic Room, I think, was his most-- where he-- I read it was kind of like it was a heist movie where-- S5. Do you like it? Laura's opinion in Cornrose. Yeah, Jerry ladles-- Cornrose were the star of the film. She didn't like the Cornrose. She hates Jerry. But I think that Panic Room was his most stylistically imposing movie over. He imposed himself the most into the film as a director. And I think this is the one where he kind of tempered that. And he saved the real stylistic directing camera-wise for the parts that it needed that support. Question. And I thought directing-wise, it was his best-- if not his best movie, possibly directing-wise. I think story-wise, yeah, it's pretty long. In the movie, was that a problem with the projector? Or something skipped? Or was that like a choice? I don't know, because there was a color flare earlier. There was a color flare earlier where the screen went to yellow. Let us know if you guys noticed it in your screening. It was shot digitally. Really? So it was shot digitally. So those things can definitely be emulated and shouldn't be in final prints. But if it's projected off of a film, if it's projected off a film, then, yeah, it could easily have been a screw up. A lot of good actors in it, too. Fantastic actors. Another Donalogue side character. Donalogue is good. What's his name? Goose is really good in this. Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards is really good. I will say this. Anthony Edwards and Mark Ruffalo were the two partners. The two cops, right? And for whatever reason, in so many movies, there's the homicide detective partners where one of them has this weird idiosyncrasy. They're like, hey, you've gotten the animal crackers? Yeah, for this one, Mark Ruffalo's character. I like animal crackers. Like Brian Cox laid in the backseat. What are these cookies? You guys are disgusting. This guy with his animal crackers. It wasn't as annoying as Nicholas Cage's jelly beans. And Ghostwriter. Speaking of Ghostwriter, what was that about? I read an interview with Mark Stephen Johnson real quick, where he said that the character in Ghostwriter wouldn't drink alcohol and would always, because of his inner demons, he would always be trying to find inner peace. So he listens to the carpenters and eats jelly beans instead of drinking alcohol. Great. That makes sense. We didn't get it. Yeah. Instead, he's pouring jelly beans into a martini glass and like, yeah, these are good. We don't get that. We think your character is a freak. That's basically what has translated to us. When you do something like that. This was-- it wasn't as obnoxious. These little character traits? These little character-- I just thought it was kind of weird. It didn't-- it didn't just-- Three. That was three voice cracks. It didn't destroy the movie for me. It didn't destroy the character for me. I think it's a really enjoyable movie. If you can see it in the theater, I definitely recommend you do. But definitely be ready for a near three hour movie. That feels like a near three hour movie. Yeah. Like five minutes would go by and it would say seven years later, two weeks later, six hours later. And Jake Gyllenhaal still looks the same. Yeah. Well, no, he ages via facial hair. Right, right. He started, I'm just a rookie. I'm young and wanted to go get him. Did you research the-- did you know a lot about the zodiac character? I did. The night on Friday, yesterday, I went and while I'm sitting at work, I looked online. Crystal at iced tea. zodiackiller.com, who to thunk it. And it had all the victims. And it was kind of-- it was really weird reading this. Why would you get on there? Just because I'm interested in that kind of stuff. Like, not to-- Freak me out? Not to freak you out or say, like, how did those guys get caught so I won't? Like, it's-- Where do they screw up? It's porcelain time. No, but it showed all the victims, like the cab driver. Where are these? They'll never-- they'll never, they'll never-- Imagine silencing the lambs with those instead. Oh, fuck me. That like scene. That's like-- Where I'm dancing. Very much a scene. Anyway, what was I saying? I like the movie a lot. I did not know a lot about the story of the-- Yeah, I didn't know how it ended, should I say? Because it's everywhere. It's everywhere. But it ends with a big question mark. I'll tell this. It ends with a big question mark. It ends with a big question mark. But it's one of those things like common sense. That's what sucks about-- like, they were talking about all the bureaucratic-- the paperwork shuffled that they had to do. It was like, it was this guy. It obviously was this guy. Like, we've got to be careful. The handwriting doesn't match. We've got to-- We don't have enough to implicate the guy. Right. Yeah, we don't-- they never had-- no one department had enough to implicate the guy. Because they weren't working together. They were trying to-- it was just a jumble. But it was obviously this guy. It was complete. Look who's fluke. Look who's joined us. What? Yeah. What about those guys that were kidnapping the dogs? What? Did you see that? In the news? Yeah, these guys, like, these family dog breeders, they have this security footage, which hopefully will show you, right? Oh, I don't know how. But we'll find it. What is it? These people broke into a house, like, walked right in the front door and started stealing puppies. And it was so funny, funny, but it was sad because, like, the dogs could hear the people coming up to the front door. So all the dogs were like, oh, let's go check it out. Let's go to the front door. Like, a wave of puppies. They opened the door and they're just like, all right. There's scooping them in the bags. There's scooping them in the bags. Yeah. And here's what we're going to do. If we can find that footage and play the Benny Hill music over it, because there's times when the puppies would, like, kind of get away from them, run it under chair legs and stuff. Yeah, the thieves saw the ad. Laura said that the thieves saw the ad for the puppies. Those dogs were $2,500 a piece. What kind of dogs were they? Many Yorkies. Many Yorkies. And so they went to the house and went to the house. While they were gone. While they were gone. That's the thing, like, if you advertise that you've got puppies for sale, advertise that you're going to put them in front of a pet smart at a certain time or pick something away from your house, so that nobody comes to your house and jacks your puppies for sale. So all you dog breeders out there. All you dog breeders who are watching geeks, geeks. There may be a lot of units since dog talk. Takes them changes in a consideration in your business practice. Please. So Graham, can I just say, before we get into news, a lot of people want to see trailers on the show. I don't always want to show trailers, because I always feel like there's not significant trailers out that weren't talking about. What about Mr. Brooks? Yeah, we saw a trailer for Mr. Brooks. Sorry. No, and yeah, Kevin Costner-- OK, just remember when you watched that trailer for Mr. Brooks, old people need to go to the movies too. No, I was into that. I was into it, like, when it first started. Kevin Costner and Debbie Moore make movies, because old people still need to go to the movies. It looked-- and William hurt. And William hurt in it. It looked like a good movie when it first started. And it was like, but then? You know who ruined the trip for you? Dane Cook. Yes. Dane Cook is in his book. I had no idea. I saw what you did. Can we make a deal? I've got a beer. I guess now we are playing Mr. Brooks trailer. Look at that piece of garbage. I have not seen the film. It could come out and have great reviews and be a very good quality film. But we're judging things simply off the trailer, which-- I'm not that interested. But if I hear good reviews, I'll go see it. That's what I did with several films during the holiday Oscar season. Dogs are attacking the camera. Dogs are attacking the DJ is fine. Dogs are attacking the camera. So, Graham, you're a very competitive gamer. You get on Halo 2. Not really. I shut up, dude. I hear you on the Xbox Live yelling at people. Being like, idiot, drop it, stay there. Though you throw commands left and right. You're very competitive. Look, somebody's got to take charge. Yes. Yes. High five. No. High five. You won't-- listen. I like that, dude. I like a man who takes control. Let me tell you a story. The reason I play this game so much, it started-- get your hand talking. It started when I was back in college. I would go from lacrosse practice over to this guy's apartment, me and a buddy. And some of his-- a bunch of his law school friends would be there. And so there'd be like eight to 10-- at one point, there was 16 of us in this one apartment. And drank a couple beers, whatever. Just playing this video game, it was a lot of fun. Halo. Halo 2. Really competitive. Like, guys talking trash in the next room. But you still do it. Yeah, but the thing about that is we developed teams and people would have their roles. Like, all right. Craig's going for the sniper rifle. He's going to do that. I'll get on the flag runs. So you guys were a precision team? Yeah, and it made it really fun. Everybody had their own job, and people were helping. It was fun. No, no, Greg, I bring this up, competitive gaming, because I want to lead into this trailer. A lot of people-- a lot of people want me to play trailers, but I really only want to play trailers that I think are quality. And are actually interesting. But I want to play this one in full. I don't want to talk over this trailer. I actually want to play it in full. Before you started, I will say competitive gaming-- those nights, that was the time that a guy got punched. We had the cops called on us. A guy got punched. A guy got body slammed through a coffee table. Wait, because of Halo? Over Halo. So we were taking it very seriously. Very seriously. You guys had Super Smash Bros. physically. Yes. Many wrestling matches where I thought I was a lot bigger than I was, and would try to get in some maneuver and some 200 pound guy would just be forcing me on the ground. Well, over Halo. Yeah. And that goes beyond the gaming experience. Wouldn't always do. That's something you want to-- We started, at some point-- You want to do that, though. We started basing our opinion on other people in the apartment. I'm like, that's a fucking guy. All he does is use the sniper, he's such a pussy. Fucking kill him. You know on Xbox Live, how I tell you-- and people confirm this, because I think it's a true. It's definitely true. It is a smash in a racial harmony. You know those two rednecks that are always on Xbox Live? Those are the things that you want to do. No, I heard I was on last night. Geekscape.net, gamer tag. And there's the antithesis of that guy got on and said, anybody here from the south? I hate people from the south. People from the south are fucking losers. I'm going to kill all of you people from the south. Somebody came on and said that? Yeah. Oh, that's not-- those aren't your opinions. Well, self-loaded. Let me show this trailer. It's for Camf Kong. It's a documentary that's hopefully coming out pretty soon. It looks just terrible. There's no release date yet. You know what I can compare it to? Well, here-- here's the trailer. [MUSIC PLAYING] Here are video game champions. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I don't do drugs. I play video games. It's a constant drive to be the best at some point. I said I'm like the playing rich game video game. The fact of the matter is Bill is the best plastic arcade gamer of our era. [MUSIC PLAYING] Steve is-- he's so focused on being the best at what he does. And he will not stop until it's absolutely perfect. [MUSIC PLAYING] The average game on Donkey Kong will never get hit the third elevator stage. Very difficult. It's a hard, hard game. So why should I pursue playing a piece of crap? It's difficult. Maybe the level of difficulty is one of the things that appealed to me. [MUSIC PLAYING] There's a guy named Steve Whibby, or Whibb. It's W-I-E-B-E. So he took two of Billy's titles right away from him. And I don't mean to sound crude or anything. But he did. He did. Officially, he did. Not a one of the scores that is there intimidates me, because they won't give me my videotape record. The videotape is not proof. The videotape is history. I don't know if he's playing mind games. Oh, Billy Mitchell always has a plan. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] Well, maybe they'd like it if I lose. I got to try losing some time. [MUSIC PLAYING] I think before we went to the trailer, you're going to compare it to something where you're going to compare it to. Hands on a hard body. But I see that. I think it looks better than that. Hands on a hard body was hysterical. Yeah, for those of you guys who've never seen what there's a documentary called Hands on a Hardbody, where you just have to look it up, I thought Robert Altman was going to try and adapt it before he passed. I don't know if that project is still going on. The Hands on a Hardbody. Explain Hands on a Hardbody. Basically, no, really look it up. It's about a dealership in northern Texas that every year gives away a truck to whoever in the town picked out of 24 people or picked out of a bowl. And they have to show up and keep their hands on a truck. On a what? On a truck. Well, what's a truck called? A hardbody. On a hardbody. Hey, OK, I was wondering where you were going with that. But they have to keep their hands on the truck without leaning, without taking their hands off. They have to keep one hand off. No, they can lean on stuff. Whatever. But that's how the movie we're talking about. Look that one out. Yeah, King of Kong looks awesome. It's these two guys, one of which had a 20-year record in Donkey Kong. I was telling John this earlier. He was on MTV's True Life. He was featured as the Donkey Kong or Champ of the Millennium, whatever. The guy randomly made a whole bunch of money selling buffalo wing sauce. He started a restaurant. And he was a really interesting character. But in this trailer, you see him come off as some cocky guy. You've got a swagger. You definitely want to relive an awful, awful mole. And somebody did come all around and beat his Donkey Kong record. Where's the proof? And where's the proof? So now they've got to go back head-to-head to finalize this thing once and for all. My money's on Billy. Really? Had it for 20 years. Why can't he-- Why can't he have it right back? I want to see this movie so bad. I haven't even-- It's been in festivals all over the place. There's reviews. I'm going to go see it at South by Southwest for next episode. So maybe I'll tell you guys next week what it's like. Do you need a DVD? I'm working on a couple of things. But I can't promise anything. I can't even promise that I get into the screening. But if I do get into the screening, I'll give you guys-- Those guys will be there. Right. I want you to interview Billy. Well, we'll see what happens. But next week, I'll be an awesome. Moving on, movie news. Ta-da! You know how I was bitching about Night of the Comet? Not coming out on DVD? What's that? It's an '80s movie. Came out last week. Night of the Comet. Night of the Comet is out on DVD. And because my bitching is so spot-on with what the people want, this fall, I think in October, it would be great for them to release on October. Lionsgate has acquired Monster Squad to release in a special edition DVD. Don't care. What? I don't care. I think it's a terrible movie. I think it's an awful movie. I think-- yeah, it's a great kids movie. But it's not-- It doesn't. It doesn't. I've told you this many times before. I don't think it's that great. What? Awkward silence now? Oh, it's cool. I will say, I will show you-- I found on MySpace the girl who was the little girl. In-- is he hot? Oh. Probably still a version. But that's just something different. Oh, yeah, that's a big plot point in Monster Squad. So those of you who haven't seen Monster Squad, definitely go check it out. I will say, it was cool. Monster Squad was cool for the reason that there's a lot-- all those movies, like kind of kid movies. But the goonies, exactly, they were-- The kids don't speak properly. It's not that they don't speak properly. They speak like kids. Like, all right, we're going to go sneak out tonight and go down to the rock quarry and have some mischief time. They don't show that in kids movies now. It's always like mom and dad are fighting. You got to get them back together. Yeah. Who cares? Those are the movies I love. Where kids were portrayed properly. Where they go out and they start throwing exit houses at cars. They peek under the stall that's lost the teacher taking it up. Yeah, the fork is moments. Which I heard rumors are going to redo that one. And that-- Yeah. Pick up a pen. Why? Well-- They are redoing-- this is my take on the links. I hate them. They're redoing-- Most people do. Back to school. I don't know if you talked about this already. But you know who's going to be-- Cedric, the entertainer. Right. They don't swim. How's he going to dive? Right. And then they don't swim. I mean, they don't swim. It's science. Am I wrong? I think I just found out who that-- I know. I guarantee. I think I just found out that Redneck on Xbox really is. I guarantee you. I will put $100 on it right now that that joke will be in the movie. And it will be in the trailer. Black people will swim that. Here it is, Cedric, the entertainer will swim. I don't swim. Oh. We'll find out. Oh, man. Enorbit. It's raining a little whacker. Can you please deflate the racial situation on the show right now? Yes, thank you. I'm kidding, man. Nobody's-- nobody's-- no, I know. You know what I think you're right, though, about that line. I actually do. Well, yeah, while there's remakes and things like that, you know that it would be soft. They're putting out that game Assassin's Creed, which everybody loves. I don't know the freaking remix. Yeah, it's not even out yet. You're seeing trailers of cinematics. What are you doing? Chill out. Chill out. You're watching game footage. Chill out. It could be ridiculously terrible. Regardless-- It'll probably be good. They did splitter cell, what am I doing? Regardless, that same company has started their own studio in Montreal to make the feature length Assassin's Creed movie. Jumping the gun. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, that's definitely a bit of jumping the gun, especially if it comes out in flops. And everybody who's going crazy about the Assassin's Creed trailer-- I will say-- I remember sitting at lunch back at Penn sophomore year and having my good friend Joshua Zuber come back from having gone to see the Waterboy only to see the trailer in episode one, because that's what it was attached to, the Waterboy. He came back and goes, dude, it's going to be the best movie ever made. I will say this, somebody has to do-- Somebody's got to do a new video game movie. Like Resident Evil, whatever. Those are established kind of franchises. Somebody has to be the first one to do it. I thought it was going to be Halo. And I was going to be the guy in the-- Halo movie still might have happened. Well, at some point-- There's just too much money. They should be in the $10, it should be-- Too much story to tell in that Halo movie. You know, I downloaded Kirby's Adventure on the Wii. It's a lot of fun. I want that movie made. I want to see a big key guy, set people up and spin around. It's just made many times to make it. [GROWLING] What is it? What is it? What have you made it like a Godzilla film? Kirby's just coming down the middle of the-- Stay up Marshall, man. Look at that. He's got to be pink, and he's got to be like radio actors coming out of the ocean. That'd be funny. Speaking of geek films, we're just going to keep it on there. Brad Burt, you tried watching Iron Giant last night? Yeah, and I still will. Yeah. Iron Giant-- I couldn't get through it. I was in a game about the game. It totally was. Absolute ADD, man. The Incredibles. He's the director of the Incredibles. His next movie rumored to be live action called 1906, about the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. Family film. I mean, I'm just excited to see this. I think he's a quality storyteller, regardless of the style or the medium that he's working in. I feel like he could make a quality children's book. If he'd be picked up in the car, he could probably make a pretty good good-- Kabuki theater. Probably. They don't speak. This is fire. This is a fan. When it was in Karate Kid 2, they did that with the fans. She had this in the special movie. And then the guys came down with it. I just hope after Rata Tatooie, Rata Tooie. Rata Tatooie. Whatever the next one is, I hope that he just goes right back in another movie. What? I saw a poster date meet the Robinson or something like that. Yeah, it's coming out in the next month. Is it Pixar? No, it's Fox. It's Disney. Oh, it's Disney. OK, but it looks exactly like a Pixar thing. Yeah, yeah. Well, they're all short. Watchmen. Watchmen. Do you know what watchmen is? You've heard it says. It's a really big, iconic-- everybody loves it. Zack Snyder, Zack Snyder, who's doing 300, is supposedly doing watchmen. There was a rumor that there's a character-- DJ is going to hate it then. DJ saw an exclusive trailer on Myspace for $300. And he says everything was in slow motion. So there's a character called Ozamandias, who's a handsome, successful man. Is that what-- handsome, successful man? Yeah, I am Ozamandias. I command the room when I enter. They were talking about maybe Tom Cruise playing him. It's not going to happen. They hate it. It's not going to happen. The dogs are now growling and they're now barking. It's not going to happen, guys. It's OK. The bomb has been diffused. You know, it is going to happen. It's not going to play Ozamandias. Your watchmen movie will still be safe. Cedric the Entertainer. Yeah, that's still going to happen. I will tell you, though, that I don't think Tom Cruise would be that bad at casting. I think a Jude Law type would be pretty good as Ozamandias. You'd have to have read the book, though, to get what the hell I am talking about. He disagrees. Graham, do you feel comfortable talking comics? Yes. Do you feel uncomfortable? No, I feel very comfortable. Because there was a comic book announced on the rumor mill this week. Well-- Oh, it's no rumor, friends. It's no rumor. What is it involving Marvel Comics as publishing? What is it, Graham? Cedric the Entertainer. The Halo universe is getting the graphic novel. Right. Did you read the graphic novel? Yeah, I tried to pawn it off on you a hundred times where you try to get in whatever. I would love to read it. Do I have to have played through the games to read it? No. OK. Yeah. Dude, shoot guns. OK, I'll do it. I'll do it. So you liked the graphic novel. Yeah, it was OK. It was like all these-- Whatever. Different artists. It was like a jam session. But they're sticking with one artist, one writer. Yeah. It's Brian Michael Bendis and Alexman Leave. They did a huge run on Daredevil. It lasted a couple of years. Never read it, so long. It's really good. Right. It's really good. Now they're doing a halo ongoing for Marvel. Are you going to read that? Yes. There you go. Somebody who's barely ever picked up a comic book in their entire life, picking up a comic. I have the Calvin and Hobbes anthology, my friend. Is that every single one of them? And I used to buy a farsight day calendar every year. You know what? That was like-- When they said the stars at night are big and bright, the guy clapped in extra time, that was the alien. OK, I remember that. That was definitely a farsight comic. I remember giving those to my dad almost every year. All they wanted to do is get out of that bowl. All they wanted. So that's coming out. You're excited. Yes. You know what? The thing about Alexman Leave's artwork is that it's going to be really-- I'll show you some of it. I'll put some up right here. I'll put some of his Daredevil work up here. But he draws people-- Security! He draws people very photorealistic. What are you doing, buddy? Security! I think she wants to do a segment. She's just jumped up here for no reason. She's late on, late on, or sit down. I read a couple comics this week. I finally started trying to catch up on comics. He's thinking about it. The ones that I read, I really had to read Brian K. Vaughan's last Runaways book before Joss Whedon takes over. And it's issue 24 of Runaways, volume 2. I really wish that he had gotten two issues to wrap up his storyline that he was doing. Totally. Because, for those of you who read it, it just seems sandwiched. The scenes are too short. And at the end of somebody's comic, you want them to really have the space to explore all the things that they intended to when they went into-- maybe you did. Maybe Brian K. Vaughan did get that chance and was happy with it. I felt like it ran a little fast. And I wasn't ultimately totally satisfied. I wasn't satisfied. Right. Jinx twice the one. Do you know anything about the Green Lantern? I know we're about to have a deathmatch down here. Laura, can you take care of whatever that is? It's a ball that's under the table. Trouble in paradise. Right. The dogs are hitting the thing. He's got it in his mouth and he's got it. I'll give you play by play. Hank's got it in his mouth. And Jeez is interested. This is the ball that all the dogs are fighting over. This ball right now. They're all staring at Jon. Look at this. I've got all these eyes on me. Watch this. If you do it home, try and imagine what is going on beneath the camera. All the dogs are focused steadily on this ball. You over here? They're freaking out. They're freaking out. Ready? You are God. Watch this. Watch this. Ready? Ready? Oh, Jesus Christ. Hold on. You've got-- What the hell is going on? OK, well, OK, OK. OK, guys, the ball went over there. Earthquake. Hi. The last issue of Green Lantern came in the ass. Do you know how Green Lantern got his lantern ring? Do you know what they are? They're like the space cops. Green Lantern. Do you know how he got his ring? In cereal box. He's a jet pilot. He's a jet pilot. A dying Green Lantern named Abbinsurr crashed into earth. What is a Green Lantern? It's a cop. You know, this is a Green Lantern. They patrol the mean beats of space. Of space, right. And we have one assigned to our earth. It's called Hal Jordan. And he got the ring by finding a dying Green Lantern who gave the ring to him. He stole it off a dead guy? Dead guy kind of gave it to him. I know how you feel. Because in this issue, the dead guy's son comes to get his father's ring. It is my birthright. That's right. It's a really good series. I challenge you. Jeff Johns is doing the artwork. I was doing the writing for it. It's an awesome series. And it's about-- Wait, does he have a mustache? Green Lantern does not. Who has the mustache? That's Green Arrow. He has an entire go to you. That guy's gay. So Laura thinks too. So gay. Yeah, so what I'm saying is those of you guys who want to get on Green Lantern, it definitely deserves to be read. You guys should definitely be reading it. Go to the comic store. As of this episode, they're about to start a new story arc. You'll be able to hop on. It's definitely worth reading. Sinestro is like his joker. It's his arch nemesis. Green Lantern's powers don't work against yellow. Because they cancel out. I know. But in the comics, too. Sinestro-- Green's a mixture of-- Sinestro-- It's half yellow. Sinestro is gathering a bunch of people to create the Sinestro corpse. They fight the Green Lantern corpse. You know what I mean? And he tried to recruit Batman. And Batman said, get the hell away from him. Wait, blue Batman or black Batman? Blue Batman. Bruce Wayne. Hello, blue. I got it. Bruce Wayne. That's how they got the yellow guy. They don't even know what it was. The blue Batman, you put them together, you get the Green Arrow. I don't even know what you're saying. So it's like a metaphysical thing they're talking about. It's not even-- it's like a series. All I'm telling my audience to do is go buy the book because I think it's worth reading. And it's a safe jumping on point now. Does that make sense? Cheeseblider. I have power. I'm like, god. That's right. Video games. We've already talked a lot about video games. Yes. One of the big games we remember when we were growing up, Wing Commander? I have a bone pick. In my senior year of high school, it was a big tradition for the seniors to do the senior skit. Remember the senior skit? I remember the seniors in high school used to make a giant fake penis and throw it off the car. I was senior dong day. That was something I couldn't leave. I remember being a freshman in city and art class and just hearing this scream going out of the hallway. I got kicked out. Look outside. A bunch of dudes were carrying a giant dong outside the thing. They throw it off and it explodes all over the W. Our vice principal got sprained ankle. Cheeseblider. And I got kicked out because I got a video camera as a graduation president. And I was documenting everything. I have this tape. They literally thought I was inciting a riot. This was me and I. Excuse. And I have this thing-- maybe we can find it someday-- of painting this giant throng of people. And through it, I see Miss Williams pointing down at me from up above, which he just goes like this. And then it just cut. And then I got kicked out. And they had my dad on the phone. I was like, we think he's inciting riotous behavior in the students. We've never seen anything like it. And I hear my dad laughing through the phone. That was the best bonding moment I ever had with my father. So now what was the bone you had to pick with me? Oh, with wing commander, whatever. It doesn't even make sense now. OK, the reason I'm bringing wing commander up is for those of you guys who think that I still haven't caught on the battle circle act again. I must tell you, friends, that I'm almost done with season one of battle circle act again. And it kicks as much as, as all of you claimed it, kicked ass. The funniest moment being Lauren and I are watching battle circle act again. And you know when they come out of the ships, they come out of the galactic and they go, boom, boom. You don't hear a bunch of explosions and a bunch of fireballs and stuff in space because space is silent. You hear muffled sounds, right? This is what the machine doesn't sound like. When they come out, when they come out, well, this is what I said. I turned to Lauren and I said, you know, because the show's very stylized and I like it and I turned to Lauren and I said, I said, I like that. And it's quiet. It's more realistic. You're an idiot. That's what I said. That's what she said. Oh, you've been in space? I let you sleep with me? Like, yeah, because that's what she said-- What would you do on your Instagram is I spent some time in the Galactic Federation. Now, really, what this-- You've seen those people with the cars, like, with the cars. They have those like alumni stickers on the back. I'm going to put you up. Starfleet Academy. It's like, you're a winner. Well, one thing that Battle of Sargillactica did was make me really nostalgic for Wing Commander because that's how it feels. It feels like those classic battles I used to have instead of going out in high school with the Kilrathi. So I went out and I was just hungry for some Wing Commander games. And I got for the Nintendo DS. I got the Game Boy Advance Wing Commander prophecy. OK, there it is. Doesn't play as well as your computer. Because you're-- I mean, dude, having a joystick is the way to play these games. As soon as I had ordered this and found out that maybe I'd never see Wing Commander again, there was announcement-- A new movie with Freddy Prince. No, no. Wing Commander Arena is coming for Xbox Live. I was reading this story behind this. It's like-- Hold on, you're right. Introduction, report on identified military threat. That's fun, boy. That's my camel. Yeah, Mark Campbell has little parents in this game. He was in all of them, right? No, he was in three and four. The first two were like cartoony animated dudes. The third one had him-- Oh, that was like the-- like the CD-ROMs. Right, right. Look at that. The third and fourth one. Returned as Zork. Yeah, and he was in it. The dude who played Biff was in it. And two porn stars were in it. Tom Wilkinson. And Tom-- Not Tom Wilkinson. Tom Wilson, or something like that. He was in it, yeah. He's a very funny comedian. And-- I'll say this. Everybody out there who said Kyle Ceece, not funny, you guys are dumb. Dumb. Maybe we'll have Kyle on the show-- Good. --to defend himself right now. I'm not going to defend himself. I'm defending himself. OK. Who are some of your favorite comments right now? All I wanted to say was that it was Wing Commander Arena coming out this summer for the Xbox Live. I'm going to take all of you guys. You want to be on my wing, buddy. Because if I see you out there in the deep darkness of space, you're all going down. You're all going down. Did you see-- when you helped me move that trunk the other day, did you see the sticker that was on the front of it? First. All I saw was the blood coming out of it. First-- that's-- that's two. What the hell is going on with your beast? I don't know. Hank is on the table now. What's this? Ready? First. Ready? Boo. Pan down. Hey. Hey. Hey. Mm. Mm. Oh. All right. Pan up. Up. Up. Up. Dog. His show is out of control. How much time do we have left, OK? All right. We're at video games. We're at the-- we're at the-- we're wrapping it up. We've kind of talked about video games in Halo throughout. But what were you going to say about convenience? Oh, it's-- who are some of your favorite games? First thing that I ever saw was a big, like, arena thing. I went and saw a Gallagher with my dad, and I was, like, mesmerized. Do you think that's what led you to wanting to do to keep comedy? No. The reason I'm so-- like, such a comedy dork is because-- Because you really are that kind of geek. Yeah. You are definitely a geek. Would you consider yourself a geek? Otherwise, you shouldn't be co-hosting this show. Do you consider yourself a geek? I was on the Varsity Cross Team, my friend. Yes. I have no geek. It's not even a real sport. Yeah. Fair enough. But no. What was the same? Yeah. Gallagher, no. My dad, when I was seven years old, he sat me down and made me watch-- I remember specifically, he sat me down and made me watch the "Paint Panther" movie. And Peter Sellers is a genius. Right. And then, a couple of weeks after that, there was this marathon on PBS of, like, my Python's flying circus. He made me watch that. And so, like, at seven years old, all these things, I'm like, "This is crazy, but I don't know why I'm laughing. It's just funny." And then, it just kind of stuck with me. And then, I would be the guy who wouldn't go out on Saturday nights by choice. So, I would sit at home and watch-- Well, I'm playing wing committee. So, I would sit at home and watch Saturday Night Live. And so, I saw, like, all the, like, the Phil Hartman era, the whole, you know, everybody-- the Chris Farley, Adam Sandler stuff, which is great. Rob Schneider being my personal-- I remember 1995, the '95-'96 season when Will Ferrell started on the show. Like, that guy's hysterical. And everybody else was saying, "You're an idiot. He's not funny. He's that dumb cheerleader." Mm-hmm. He was laughing now. Not Chris-- Not Chris Catan. He was funny on the show. He's a funny guy. I think the problem came when he was not funny off the show. When was that? Nobody knows. Is that anything? He was a-- Okay. I'll give you totally off. Monkey bone? Okay. All right. Point taken. What are you gonna say? What are you gonna say? He was gay speech-gating Hitler. So that made me laugh. Yeah. It's true that. If somebody wanted to see more-- 'Cause right now we got a lot of, like, Gideon Cook stuff. We got a lot of, like, Chris Muncie and stuff. And-- My personal favorite is Dave Chappelle. But who knows-- Yeah, I like it. You know what I mean? What would you say would be, like, the essential Desert Island comedy DVDs? You know what I mean? Oh, wow. It's not, like, maybe stand up. Just stand up. I honestly think-- and this is, for a biased opinion, Joe Rogan put out a DVD a couple years back of a show he did in Austin that I was at. Mm-hmm. And if you need something that'll make you laugh on a Desert Island, plus you get to see boobs, get that DVD. Okay. Joe Rogan lied from the belly of the beast. I think is what it was called. These two girls got up on stage and took the tops off. Hilarious. The one that I saw-- one of the few that I've seen, the one that definitely stuck with me the most, of course, is delirious. Yeah, that one-- I think Murphy's delirious. Not raw. Delirious, I thought, was-- It's raw. He's hilarious. I like delirious. Just everyone quotes the ice cream in. Everybody quotes the ice cream in. What would you do it for us now? Ice cream. That's all-- that's the quote. That's it. Oh, my nose. That one. That's it. Yeah, I think there's a lot of good-- I'm not-- I tried doing stand-up one night. The only-- it was abysmal. The only laugh I got. Did you have you had good experiences doing it? No. You've only done one stand-up? I did it like three or four times for consecutive weeks at this open mic night and it was rough. It's very hard. Everyone's saying just keep doing the same stuff until it works. And I realized the only time I got a laugh, I had this dumb-- dumb bit. Like, I can't even call it a routine because I didn't do it enough to be routine. But I would-- and if anybody should watch a movie called Comedian, the documentary I'm trying to find out, there's-- this guy, Ornie Adams, takes a-- his-- the stool that they always have on stage. And the mic's the end and it uses a-- it's a giant cell phone. I did something very similar to that, which was awful. The only laugh I got was because the ceiling was so low. When I picked up the mic stand, I knocked out a ceiling tile and they laughed and they laughed. Man, I had to pay for it. At me. Yeah. But stand-up's different than improv. Right. Stand-up is one guy. I like them both. I'm doing improv right now. I'm not getting paid to do improv right now. I'm not even doing improv very well right now. But it's-- improv's more of a teen thing. That's-- Like the halo. Like the halo. And we've come. So that's the way you work. That's the way you work. Yeah. I like-- I like-- if I see somebody out there not doing so well, I-- you know, you have to figure out something that'll put you in the scene that will help them. And it-- you know, it's a real camaraderie thing. It's a great-- a great feeling if it's done right. John's seen me do it a couple of times. They're doing it wrong. You're someone-- no, I like some of your stuff a lot. One day, I'm gonna like all of your stuff, but that's what you're doing, right? You're learning. And-- It's great. And-- It's a great community out here. Right. And it's awesome. Well, in closing, buddy, I'm glad that your team mindset has led you to the Geekscape team. Because as you guys meet each member of the team-- Hey, I got drafted in the scene. I got drafted. I didn't try out. Don't worry. There will be episodes. Me. You're paying my contract. There will be episodes-- Talk to my age. Where you get to meet Gilmore. There will be episodes where you get to meet Vijay. We're gonna introduce you guys slowly to the entire team. Maybe the team will grow as we grow. But thanks a lot, buddy. Hey. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for being part of the show. Thanks for being part of the slightly community that we're building at Geekscape.net. And for those of you guys who are-- No, keep thanking me. Figuring it out. Oh, I will. But you guys can go on the forums at Geekscape.net, submit news, Geekscape.net. Create your own profiles. We are rapidly growing. And I think it's an exciting thing to be a part of. I will go on record as saying. I work my day job. I work in a field where I'm seeing a direct impact of this medium in that-- Something else I want to talk about. We only have three minutes. The medium of--this is what's known as new media. And it's shaking up the entertainment industry big time. It's scaring a lot of actors. There's talk of a writer's strike and blah, blah, blah. But having said that and having said my opinion on comedy, I'm all for everybody watching TV on the internet or anything. But you don't have to necessarily go through those kind of pirate sites. NBC has all their shows online. You can watch heroes. Yeah, the whole entertainment industry is funded through advertising. That's just the way it works. And everybody said, "I don't want to watch commercials." Suck it up. That nothing would get made if there wasn't commercials. So you sit and watch it online. Like I watched an episode of "30 Rock." And you see like a Toyota commercial. And they're only like 30 seconds long between 10 minute segments. And that's it. And that validated that thing. Well, you guys wouldn't be getting this episode if not for our sponsors like netriver.net. Thanks a lot for coming on the show, buddy. We will see you guys next week from Austin, Texas. Episode maybe a little bit late. But it's going to come. All right, I'm having to travel. So thanks a little time. All right, guys, we'll see you guys next week. Thank you, Graham. Let's go spelunking, baby. Dude, those are lame. I'm jumping to tell you right now they're lame. It's all mine.