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Geekscape 12: The Loud Mouth Down South

Guest Co-host: DivX's Ben Cote and my friends Erin and Nicole in a hotel room! - Reviews: 300, The Host and King of Kong. News: Tobey and Kirsten say good by to Spider-Man and MJ, Alvin and the Chipmunk... THE MOVIE! Comics: Captain America... we miss you! Video Games: Windows Vista... what's the deal? Online MMRPGs and the white, large breasted elf women who sell them! Television: Adult Swim's Metalocalypse!!! All from a hotel room in Austin Texas!!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 06 Mar 2007
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ABC Wednesday, October 9th. You all can play all day. We want books. We want paper towels in the classroom. Bet you won't raise this too. I'm still waking up the paper towels. Abbott Elementary returns with the new season. We asked the district for more after school programs. They gave us $50 for class beds instead. Critics cheer. Abbott Elementary continues to be one of the funniest and most beloved shows on TV. What y'all doing out there? Taking bribes. Proud of y'all. Abbott Elementary, the season premiere Wednesday, October 9th on ABC, and stream on Hulu. [MUSIC PLAYING] Hey, welcome to GeekScape episode 12. I'm here with my good friend Ben. Kote, who you guys recognize from episode 4. 4 Rock. When we were in Vegas, now we are in-- Austin, I had to think about that for a second. Hold my mic up. Can you hear one word he's saying with a mic down there? No, it's going to be like mics, they're confusing. Last time you guys saw him, we were in Vegas. Now we're in Austin. CES, now we're in Austin. That's South by Southwest. You're basically our convention buddy. I travel where you travel. He's following me around the country to different conventions. You should just come to LA and do a show there. I know. I bet you're going to be around during the Comic Con episode, too. Oh, well, you'll be in our neighborhood then, so heck yeah. Right, Ben works at Divx, then in San Diego. You guys have been really good neighbors of the show when we had bandwidth problems. We started throwing up shows on Stage 6, which is your-- It is our home territory. Stage 6.com. Video community. Throw it on the plug. Stage 6 is awesome, check it out. We, personally, are a little partial to NetRiver.com, which is our sponsor. They're perfect if you want to start your own website, start your own blog, your own community if you have a dedicated server to run your own games. It's good for that. If you plug in the promotional code, Gilmoor, that's one of our listeners' names. Not Gilmoor, girls. No, it's not Gilmoor, girls. We have a listener who's a total creep named Brian Gilmoor. And if you type in Gilmoor on your checkout, you get 10% off, all dedicated hosting. They get email servers, as well? Yeah, like LAN staff. Yep. I mean, whatever you guys need, start your own site. That's NetRiver.net. I mean, it's like LAN games over on-- You got to check out the website. On Geekscape, we've done a lot of Skype casts, where our audience will get together and watch, like, start the Bloodsport DVD at the same time and then talk about it on Skype. We should do some Geekscape versus Divx, like LAN party games. I'm all for it. We've got some hardcore gamers at Divx. You guys are all PC based. Yeah. Where do you guys do the-- I think the majority of our audience is console based. We've got consoles at Divx now. We have that Xbox, a Wii, and a PlayStation. And nobody touches the PlayStation. Really? They just bought all three and said them. We have, like, two, like, one upstairs and one downstairs. And people are on the Wii 24/7. Some people play the Xbox, nobody touches the PlayStation. People bring it to the PlayStation 3. People bring in their PlayStation 2 in the opposite of play games. And it's, like, the 3 just, like, clicks dust. Well, we will get to video games. But we're a movie review show at the tail end. Like, we know it's-- for those of you guys first seeing us for the first time, we do movies, then we do common books, then we do video games. We're going to talk a little bit about your experience here at South by Southwest. You're here representing your company. But the movie I went to see is the Big Geek movie, 300. Which I have not been-- What are your impressions of the movie going in? I saw that they had the 300 seconds of 300 online. And it looked as pretty as all the other trailers and behind the scenes footage. That you've seen, right? And everything else. So it looks great. My fear, which you can kind of elaborate on, was it's going to be too pretty. And that's about it. That's exactly what it is. Right now, you guys may be disagreeing with me. Because I have talked to a couple of people who saw 300 and loved it. And I really think that it is absolutely style over substance. I think that it's a movie that looks fantastic. But as you're watching it, there is nothing to really invest in. I like music videos. I just don't like two hour long music videos. Does that make sense? It does. That's like a big complaint with movies is, oh, it's too much like a music video. No, this is literally too much like a music video. Everybody who has to be iconic in the film is iconic. I just feel like the movie works at a very high level and doesn't have arcs to it. Everything is a money shot. Everything is a fantastic line. Stand there until-- Yeah, and you go. It's about these 300 Spartans who hold a pass against the Persian Empire who is coming to invade Western civilization. It's based on a historic battle. But this is the adaptation of Frank Miller and Lynn Varney's trade paperback of collecting the seven issues of 300, which I read and thought they were fantastic as issues. But as a movie, a little thin. Was the story just not there in the issues to carry over or did the story just not carry over? It's been about 10 years since I read the comics. But this one, it really just seems like once you get to the problem, we have to hold this pass against a sea of enemies. You get wave after wave of different types of villains. You have the ninja assassin types. You've got the regular battles. You've got a rhino coming at you. That doesn't work. They've got elephants coming at you. The Persians try everything to break through this pass. And it's all at this high level. You know what I mean? It never builds. It never drops. It never gives you a well-paced story, does you know what I mean? It just feels like it's constantly at the Persians come out and they say something. But then you have a Spartan turn to them and go, oh, really? Here's a catchy line that's going to look perfect in the trailer. And here's my badass move to follow it up. I'm going to throw a sword. I'm going to jump five feet into the air and stab you. The thing where they try to keep you pumped and on the edge for two hours or now and a half. This movie is the equivalent of a brofest. You know those dudes in college who are just super pumped and running their heads in a wall? Those are the characters in this movie. Spartans were basically the frab boys of Western civilization. The whole Aegean, they had a fraternity called the Spartans. They're just bros from the beginning. And the speed ramps were out of control, Mr. Snyder. Zack Snyder, the director of Dawn of the Dead, the remake. And he's going to do Watchmen. He did this film. And every fight scene has somebody in a slow mo. And then he does a speed ramp. And then he's slow. And he does a speed ramp. And then somebody's head goes flying off. And it's slowly going through the air. And then it's fast. And they're just like, chill out. All right, buddy? The movie's gorgeous. Nobody's denying that. There's just not much more. And I'm sorry for all you geeks who are out there. I love you escapists more than anything in the world. But a lot of us may disagree on this. I was not totally satisfied with the film. You definitely have to see it in the theater. Also. You have to see it in the theater. This is a movie you have to see it in the theater. On DVD, unless you have an amazing screen, you're just not going to work. Can you make it more on iMacs, since it's just eye candy? Yeah, probably. Probably. Throw some dolphins and you know, great barrier reef. You know, sharks at the iMacs. You know, it's always like sharks. The rings of Saturn. It's like, OK, I saw this shit when I was in science class. But now it's huge. It's like, thanks. I heard about the new planet Earth thing from the Discovery channel. No, what is that? It's new-- I don't know if it's iMacs, but it's a new HD super discovery thing. But going on that whole discovery thing route, it's like, the first time they've had that technology to actually capture these animal things like in the real environment type of thing, like they said that they're a really cool article in Wired. I recommend reading it. It's like, every animal kill chasing and kill you've ever seen to date has been a fake. Wait, what do you mean? It's a compilation of days of shooting different animals, chasing different animals and killing them. It's never one-- you know how they cut it from? Oh, yeah. It's a lion sneaking in the woods. Then he leaps out. I feel lied to. Everyone has been a fake. Because the cameras have been so intrusive that they-- It interrupts the-- It interrupts the chase. So they lose interest and they can't do it. But now they have these-- You know how many lives have been saved in the wild? Exactly. Now, slaughter. Death toll. Yeah. Now animals are just going to go extinct by the thousands. Thanks to technology. Two-mile zoom range now so they can get out of the way and actually watch. They have real footage now of a beginning to end, chase, and kill scene. And then previously, they couldn't feel like elephants at night because the lights they needed to shoot on them would freak out the animals. So they have new infrared cameras and stuff they can shoot and like-- You know that they just developed that technology so they could see animals humping with them interrupting? Well, who doesn't want to watch that in HD? I think everybody has that time in their life when they go to the zoo thinking, I'm going to see some animals hump. And then they see animals hump, and it's just effed up. They're all mom. Maybe we'll go to the zoo with San Diego when we come to visit you. You've never been to the zoo. You live in San Diego. You've never been to one of the best zoos in the world. I'm waiting for friends or family to come down because it's one of those touristy things I would feel stupid just doing. I just get to wait for some-- You really feel that way? I'm sure it's wonderful but it's one of the things I could do anytime so I want to wait for someone to come down. Hey, church manager. No, those animals are going extinct. You can't just do it every time. See pictures of them. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, I mean, you're going to see them behind a cage. That's the point. Your money goes towards charities. Holograms. Let's do it in the future. Put a goggle on. Speaking of monsters, another geek movie that came out this weekend was The Host. It's a South Korean movie. Is that out? Yeah. I didn't think it came out. Let me tell you about what this movie is about. It starts out with an American scientist pouring a bunch of toxic waste into a river and soil. It starts. And like three years later, this-- In the turtles. Well, three years later, this family of South Koreans, were on a business by the river. And the youngest daughter gets abducted by this three-legged frog creature. That's huge. It's like hanging off one of the bridges. And that's my phone. Don't worry about it. The creature effects in this and the CGI are really impressive. The family now has to band together because they fight and they squabble and the drama, and it isn't bad at all. It's actually kind of cool that these aren't perfect heroes. They're actually kind of messed up. They're kind of losers. The main character is kind of a loser. And when the young daughter gets abducted, they have to use their strengths and band together and rescuer. So this has been a movie that a lot of geeks are looking forward to. It looks like it's done well on that cheesy scale, but it can actually done kind of cool. It is done well. There's times when I feel like it cut corners. The movie's worth watching. It's not going to suffer a whole lot if you wait till DVD. And I feel like this a lot with Asian cinema. It doesn't always conform to the pacing that US films do. They rarely do. They rarely do. And this one has those same problems for me because I'm a 100% John Wayne American. Or in Texas. Yeah, we are in Texas. And there are parts in this movie where I'm just like, OK, where's the plot going? When are you going to get back on the plot line to go? Because there's this whole infection story line where who was in contact with the monster? You need to be quarantined. I feel like the movie starts going one direction. When really the audience wants to go the direction of catching the monster and killing it, which is what the genre is. Not that you have to adhere to that. You don't have to adhere to that. You don't. I mean, the American cinema is not the way of cinema. It's just the way that we're used to seeing stories being told. So when things aren't in that fashion, it's just-- I get angry. It's awkward. I get really uncomfortable. Yeah, it's definitely uncomfortable. And you're like, you sit there looking at the screen going, why are they talking about-- why are they doing-- Why are they talking in baby talk? Yeah. You're just not expecting that it throws off your suspension of disbelief and all the other stuff that you kind of go into expecting what you're supposed to be expecting. I do recommend the movie, but it really feels not satisfactory to me. Have you gotten a chance to see any movies itself on selfless? No. What have you been doing here? You got here yesterday? No. Yeah. What is wrong with you? I don't know. Just hanging out. I'm here kind of just to hang out, see people. And I've been doing a lot of panels. So I haven't just even gotten to the film aspect of it yet. What are some of the panels you've been sitting on? Video on the net, TV in the next generation, distribution companies 2.0, that whole video-- It's all the same thing. It's all the same thing. And literally, they were all the same panel almost with different people up there saying the exact same thing. Did any one of them say we just don't know what to do about this next juggernaut called Geekscape.net coming down the line? They're like, this guy on Geekscape.net. He's hot. He-- Did you win that, sexiest? I did not. Did you-- who did that? I am guessing that a-- I don't want to point any fingers. I'm guessing a bot was used at one point during the contest, but I did not win ValleyWag.com's hot blogger contest. But you know what? I didn't cheat, and I'm happy with that. I was like, oh, somebody just posted 300 votes in a minute. That happens. You know? Someone speed dialed their fan base, and rallied the truth. You think that's what it was? Like a lister went out, and everybody's that active? I don't think I recognized anybody else that was in it. First off, my photo looked like a burn victim. And I really think that worked against me. It looked like a bad YouTube screen grab of something. Like, you looked like a copy of a copy of a copy, and then faded. And I'm OK with it. You know what I mean? I don't do this show to be the hot blogger of the internet. I actually think that that's a joke. I do this show to build community, tell a bunch of jokes, and communicate about the culture that we love. This is a lifestyle show. It's like the view for geeks. That's the way I look at this. I look at this as like the view for geeks. Is that a safe way to look at it? That's how I describe it to potential guests. I was like, come on. You'll be Star Jones. I'll be a rosy. That works. Were they ever on the view at the same time? They were not. There are two females in the room laughing at us. They're laughing at us. And yeah, I only watch the view sometimes. This is the view for geeks. I did go see a movie. And even though you guys are like, man, he did not like 300. He did not like the host. I'm telling you all, right now, there is a geek film coming this summer, August 17th. Pull the calendar. Pull the Spider-Man calendar down. Open it up to August right now. Go to August 17th. Grab a big magic marker and circle it. Because last week, we played the trailer to a movie called King of Kong. It's a documentary about a guy who held the Donkey Kong record for 20 years before somebody came along and beat it. Took the record. And of course, he wakes up and says, what? Nobody beats my Donkey Kong record. Mine, one of the years. These two characters, his name is Billy Mitchell. And in 1982, he was in, I think, Life Magazine. They did a feature on all of the best video gamers ever. And he was 17, and he was part of this magazine. He set a record on Donkey Kong by scoring 800 some odd thousand points on Donkey Kong, which is a really effing hard game. That record stood for 20 years until this guy named Steve Weebly, who is a-- he's now a middle school teacher, science teacher in Seattle or in Washington. He lost his job at the time, had nothing to fill his days. So he was online, saw this record. And he said, I'm going to do this. Totally normal guy, but he just set his mind to it. And he set up a videotape. And videotaped himself beating Billy Mitchell's record. Billy Mitchell now 20 years later runs a successful hot sauce business, but still has the mullet in the facial hair from when he was 17. This is not the guy who looks like the guy from Alabama, the musical group. Oh, right, right, right. Is that him? Is that the same guy who did the perfect game of Pac-Man? Yes, it's the same guy who did the perfect game of Pac-Man. OK, OK, OK. That's insane, that's crazy about that. The guy's just determined to be the best. And he's really-- he's one of the main characters in it. And it follows him and all those kids at that time and the heyday of arcades were coming up. And there's a small town in-- What are you doing with your microphone? You're like-- I talk with my hands a lot. Small town like Iowa or something that became like the arcade capital of the world, because the guy there took up on himself to keep the high scores above the game. So everyone that had a high score would submit it to him and verify somewhere. And it followed all these kids of all their games. Second Galaxy, it's one of those places. That website has a big role in King of Kong. And it comes to a head when Billy Mitchell sees the tape and says, I bet he can't do it live. So Steve is like, OK. It shows up, does it live? And then the drama starts to really ensue. Because I mean, these guys just keep trying to talk. I'm not going to tell you. I'm serious. August 17th, Picture House, is putting this movie out. It is one of the most dramatic films. It's definitely the best film I've seen in 2007. I know it's only March, but this film blew me away. He's like chasing ghosts. I don't know if it ever got picked up for distribution. I think it will. It was really clean. It was really well done. Documentary is very clean, very sharp. So I think it'll get picked up somewhere. But it shows all the same characters, but I think it's more of a humor kind of slant of like-- Kind of making fun of these people? Kind of. And it shows geeks. So you look at these people, they're such nerds. And then it kind of delves into them a little more and kind of shows the really darker nerdier, really kind of geeky side that you don't like to show people. And it kind of freaks you out a little bit on some of them. We're OK with that here. There's some scary scenes. This one they-- like what? I'm actually freaked out right now. Dude, it goes crazy at one part. Like it's this one guy who is the epitome of the comic book character, the store owner, and the Simpsons. He lives exactly like that. He lives with his parents. He has a fat cat. Don't make fun of people like that. I'm not. I love people with fat cats who live with their parents. So do I. He's the guy. He's like an accountant by day or something. He's the guy who people send these tapes to who verifies. He's in this film. OK, did they show his collection? Yes. No. Of art? No. They showed all the tapes he asked to go through. Gary turned at that point when they get into his private collection. And it's-- Gross. It's exactly what you think it is. This is my collection of human skin. No, it's-- It's not that bad. It's drawings and animation. No, that's enough. And he said he has commissions, and it's bad. It's really bad. Oh, I really want to see that. If it's anything like King and Clang, I want to see it. But it keeps getting worse and worse on that track. He just like, stop. And you're just like, no, no, please don't go there. Oh, wow. This movie, it comes out August 17, but they're already working with New Line to do a fictionalized version of it. And we'll see. That's what-- here, hand me my phone. My phone is going, I'm blowing up. And I'm not answering it, because I love you guys. So there's two video game movies that are coming out, Documentaries, in the next year. Hopefully, you get to see Chasing Ghost. I think it'll take a little bit faster. It's great. This one was awesome. Moving on to the movie, News, Do you feel comfortable? Yeah. You OK? I'm great. Did you hear about Toby and Kirsten? Do you want some news? Toby and Byron, Kirsten Dunce are not coming back for Spider-Man 4. How do you know they're doing a Spider-Man 4? They're doing a Spider-Man 4. And let me tell you why I think they're going to do a Spider-Man 4. They've already got David Kep working on the screenplay, which means that they'll at least have something. It's a great-- It's a great franchise. And the actors aren't coming back. The actors aren't coming back. The characters can come back. You know what I mean? They're going to make it. It's too much of a blockbuster juggernaut. Sure. I don't make money. It doesn't. I don't think Spider-Man 3 is going to be the X-Men the last stand. Or you're just like, oh, god. Put it out of its misery. Sure. You think it'd be decent? I think Spider-Man 3 is going to be really good. Do you see that extended trailer that they have with the surfboard or the snowboard? I did. And I wish I hadn't-- And the surfound. What'd you think? What'd you think of that seven-minute clip from Spider-Man 3? It seemed too long. Now, what did you not like about it? It starts off with them in the web. And you're like, OK, that's stupid and cheesy and fine. Yeah, nice secret identity. I'm going to make a giant spider web in Central Park and learn in it. Yeah, that's cool. It's like that. Do you bring that weird hammock? What are you guys doing up there? Nothing. Go away. You can just see the cops showing up and be like, who made that? Oh, I shot it out of our wrists. Yeah, that's a little weird. And then the whole grandma thing. I mean, is that a contact that's slow and it was boring? And then the super-duper fight scenes with the guy in the-- With Harry? --Harry and the snowboard that goes around. The green goblin, too? Yeah. And it seemed like one again, but trying to be a little more extreme sporty. Like-- Like a Mountain Dew? Like a Mountain Dew commercial. That would have actually been really funny in the middle of it. He pulls out a Mountain Dew. And then like a Mountain Dew, shh. That's this green goblin serum. He's Mountain Dew. He's like, time to change. Extreme. Extreme! Don't let us get-- [LAUGHTER] It is a mountain. That's actually funny. It really did come out. Mountain Dew is a green goblin serum. And of course, I mean, it looked prettier than ever and all special-- Did you see this, Aaron? Yeah. Aaron, come here. This is my friend, Aaron. She refers to me as her big brother. Is there anything going behind the camera? Aaron, did you see this? Here, here's the mic. Get the mic. I did. I liked it. Yeah, right, Ben. I thought it was good. Of course, I'll see the movie and-- Yes, you will see it. I'll see it. I have to, but-- It's going to be excellent. It's going to be excellent. The Mountain Dew thing is quite funny. Thank you. You are dismissed. You'll be back. You'll be back. You'll be back to talk about stuff here in a little bit. So they're not coming back. Have you heard-- you know how Jason Lee is doing "Underdog"? You know, they're doing all these movies. Like "Yarfield" movies. And for you, what do you think? For a kid's movie, it looked cute. Yeah, yeah. I preferred that trailer to the one, like, the "Garfields" and so on that. Like, it looked actually kind of funny. Like, for a kid's movie, it looked like it didn't take itself too seriously and kind of-- So they're going to do another one. This time, it's "Alvin and the Chipmunks." And Jason Lee is playing Dave Seville. Remember the guy who adopts the Chipmunks? Who the fuck-- what kind of grown man is like three chipmunks left on my doorstep? I will bring them in and raise them as my own. Did they come wearing the hats and shirts? Because if they did-- That's where they got them. And then who keeps them in those costumes, you know? That's what they wore. It's the red and the blue and-- It's like, what the-- is a grown man with hamsters running around? It's like, dude, that is the biggest BCE. There's a lot of cartoons back then that could pull that kind of stuff off. And kid just went, yeah, this is the coolest thing ever. And had no clue as to why or what. That's why people will have tigers and crap in their apartment. It's because Dave Seville went and got three chipmunks and thought that he could like, domesticate them and live with them as his children. Not only that, but turn them into a singing-- Yeah, they're singing. Yes, it was the money-making endeavor. I mean, the Christmas song, that's classic. Wow. There was money to be made off that band. That was the original boy band. But chipmunks. Maybe. Best episode of the chipmunks was when they met Mr. T. Do you remember that episode where they meet Mr. T and Mr. T helps them go up against the bullies? Well, you got her a child. I was a child. And I remember eating the Mr. T cereal and watching the Mr. T-- Your balls are going to be big now. Eat my cereal. I don't remember him be a guest appearing on-- You got black balls. That escaped my memory. You don't remember getting that? Would you eat the cereal? Yeah. Your balls are big. I remember the gold chains appeared on you when you ate them. All of a sudden, you're blinked out and 20 pounds heavy. Somebody comes by and shoots you. Yeah, Jason Lee is in the chipmunk feature that they're doing. And the director of "Tale of Tube Kitties" is directing "Humanity" is a better place for it. Other way you say that kind of story is-- Yeah, "Humanity" is a better place for it. So comics-- there's a series by Garth Ennis called "The Boys" where a group of people kick some superhero ass. They're the dudes who keep superheroes in check. OK. You know, it's ultraviolent. Are they superheroes or adults? No, they're not. They juice up when they have to go kick some ass. Mountain dew. They're like a CIA-covered optic. It was canceled or six issues by DC. But it's now been picked up by "Dynamite Entertainment" which is a comic company who, up to this point, really-- for the most part, licensed stuff. They do like the "Army of Darkness" comic. They did the "Babble on 5" comic, which I have started seeing, and it is a kick-ass show. So I can stop getting hate mail from you guys. Be like, excuse me, sir. How are you qualified to host geekscape if you have yet to watch "Babble on 5?" You know, excuse me, sir. Excuse me, sir. You have yet to watch "Babble on 5." You have not extended to the ranks of full-gate gun. I am watching "Babble on 5." It is as good. Yeah, right now, they're going to take on the boys. And let me see. It's going to come out in June. So they're going to start up with an issue 7. Hopefully they'll collect their first six late comers. I feel like the series was good. And then on the last issue, it's already going downhill. And then the last issue, it started getting good again, which is kind of what "Preacher" was like. People love "Preacher." But they forget that sales-wise, it was really slow up until like issue 7 or 8. It just never took off. And then it started really kicking ass. It was only until the second storyline, that "Preacher," the comic book, everybody reveres as one of the best series ever started picking up. So hopefully this one will follow the same trajectory. They are publishing with Marvel. Have you heard about this Marvel zombie series? All the Marvel characters get affected by zombies? And they start eating each other's brains and stuff. It's kind of fun. It sounds like it could be. Can't be. Dynamite and Marvel are teaming up and doing a series with Ash from "The Army of Darkness," who lands in the Marvel universe with their all zombies. It's like "Alien vs. Predator." It's like, do we have to see this? I got the first issue. It's actually kind of fun. It sounds like it could be fun, or it could be like-- And absolutely, it could take more characters and put them-- I think they should put Robocop in it. Yeah. You know? Could Robocop turn into a zombie? That's the kind of crap we talk about here on "Geekscape." Yeah, the brain. What the fuck did I just say? Could Robocop turn into a zombie? That's why girls won't talk to me. I don't know if he could, because-- Excuse me, babe. Do you believe that Robocop could turn into a zombie if bitten by the undead? See, they can't be bitten, though. He had the whole metal. Right. He just had the brain. That's pretty survival, too. No, he had the part of the face, too. So I guess if they bit that part of his face-- Do you notice how Robocop whenever you fired his gun had his pinky out? Like, he was a martini. Like, he was gay. I don't know if I paid attention to it at that deal. Yeah, he was like, stop him. There will be trouble. And he always had his gun out. And he always had his pinky out, you know? Watch the Robocop. He's like a crazy flip. Stay in school. Yeah. Dude, they need to make another Robocop movie. I'm hungry for it. If they're doing alien versus predator versus god or whatever the hell they're doing, they need to do a Robocop. They need to throw Robocop versus alien versus predator. I'd see that in a heartbeat. Robocop versus Terminator? Oh, yeah. Think about that. Robot. As zombies? Collision. Yeah. Army darkness in the Marvel universe. Check it out. The big news here, though, we're going to have to pause. No, not the tape. Captain America is dead. That's what I hear. Yeah. Now, my wife, who's probably going to watch this later, was on Google News or some website. And she said it was all over there. And she couldn't figure out why it was important. How dare you? Exactly. That's what I said. Actually, I didn't say that at all, because I don't know why it's important either. How dare you? Captain America is huge. But I have to tell you something. I don't think he's dead. At the end of issue 25-- spoiler alert-- at the end of issue 25, which everyone's buying off the newsstands, because it's the one that he's shot in. He's sniped. At the end of Civil War, Cap gives up-- spoiler alert, too, sorry. I mean, dude, you've heard about it. At the end of Civil War, Cap gives up and says, arrest me. He's then being transported to the courthouse. And there's some stuff going on. Nick Fury is still alive for those of you who don't know. And a sniper shoots them. But that's not what kills them, because the sniper gets them right here. I'm going to do like a John Kennedy thing. The sniper gets them here. It is then that we see a close-up, as everybody's freaking out and running for it, of a hand. It's just Cap's stomach and a hand with a gun shooting them. In the side. That's what does it. So there's two shooters of what you're saying. There's two shooters. Grassy Knoll. First shooter starts to get away. Bucky in the Falcon. Take him out. The second shooter, we don't know who it is. Nobody really raises the fuzz about the bullets in his stomach when they're taking him to the hospital. That's cool. We'll just slide that to the side. There are obviously still think the one in the shoulder did it. But at the end of the issue, he's in a hospital bed. Still alive. You guys were like, dude, Cap's dead. Cap's dead. He's not dead yet. He's in a hospital bed. He's maybe in a coma. But I will say that Ed Bruebreaker is a writer on this, and he's awesome. He's really turned in on an amazing writer. The end of this issue, which I can't spoil, is the best part of it. I already told you the dude's in the hospital bed. That's not what's great about the ending. There's a twist at the end of it that, really, when I turned it and I saw it, it got me reading. If you guys can, go out and get issue number 25 of Cap. At Captain America, it's the issue that you can easily jump on. And just start reading it because it's worth it. And if your wife were to read it or yourself, you would say, oh, that is why America needs Captain America now. Now, one of our questions was, which we were debating this on the board. Don't make me mad. Is it a political statement on America of Captain America dying? Here's the thing. Comic books have always been the medium that are the quickest to reflect-- Current events. Current events. Bush gets into the presidency. Lex Luthor becomes president. There are the medium that is closest tied to North American culture. They came out of North America. And they're the ones that have paralleled us the most. They're well. The first ones to really do serious drug stories. It was only later that film and stuff like that started getting into it. Are you saying America's in the hospital and in a coma? I'm saying America-- the viewpoint of Marvel with this Captain America thing-- all I'm saying is America's been frozen in a block of ice. The Avengers got America out. Dude, I don't know what I'm saying. All I'm saying is I think it's OK. I think Cap's going to be fine. I think America's going to be fine. And now it's going through some problems. Everybody's worried about it. I'm like, dude, it's Cap. He'll be fine. He's not going to die. If he does die, I'll be really upset. Aaron over here-- I had some people bitching on our forums at GeekScape.net about, how come you don't tell us about non-superhero comics? And then I went to point out the many non-superhero comics, some on episode four of your show, of your episode, that I have been pointing out. But Aaron over here wants to know what I should get into. You're a big Batman fan. It's the cod piece. The nipples. It's the nipples. For those of you guys who want Batman comics, because you just need a delusional dude who thinks revenge is best served in a rodent costume, punching guys with grease paint in a face, even though they have enough money to change the face of world politics and economics for the betterment of mankind, they're like, oh, no, I won't do that. I'm going to go punch dudes. If you guys are interested in that, and I like Batman, the ones I can recommend besides Dark Knight Returns and those iconic ones-- the Jeff Lo books and TimSail books. TimSail's the dude who does all the artwork for heroes that you see, the paintings. Long Halloween and Dark Victory, those two are really damn good. I would go with those books. Frank Miller's Batman year one is also very good. So that's what you're going to go get. All right, people are like, oh, dude, Batman Hush, which is Jeff Loeb and Jim Lee. I do like Hush. Yeah, you can't just hop into the Hush. You may like it, but I'm telling you, if you want the true experience, start with Dark Victory, work in Long Halloween. You're going to have a good experience. How long has the episode been running if you peek into the IPs, just so I have a good idea of how we're doing? Oh, we're good, we're good. So that's kind of comic books. Do you feel like you've got your knowledge? I'm satisfied. Are you going to go back and be like, listen, woman, this is why we need Captain America? Yes, this is why America needs America to be American. Dude, I was actually like, you know, in all honesty, somebody told me ahead of time that Marvel's going to kill Captain America. And I thought it was going to happen in Civil War 7. So when it didn't happen, I'm reading Civil War 7 like this. When's he going to die? When's he going to die? No. I got it. When's he going to die? That's how I read Civil War number 7. And Civil War number 7 really just kind of closed up the Civil War storyline and segued into like 50 books that Marvel's going to sell you over the next couple of months. But Captain America did not die in that book. He just got arrested. And he gave up, quitter. And I was like, wow, Cap's not going to die. I can still hold my head up high. He's dead. No, yeah, he's not dead. So that's comic books. Do you feel OK? I feel good. I want to talk to Aaron. You know what? I want to talk to Nicole. I think you and Nicole need to send that. He's good next to me, friend. Nicole's got a boyfriend. I don't want her sending it next to me. How does it look, Aaron? Picking the IPC if we're all leveled out. Nicole, you guys were talking about-- What are you talking about? You guys were talking about what? Max. Max versus PCs. Guys, I know you're big fans of Nicole. And you're like, whoa, babe. Nicole, we were at dinner. And Nicole started saying some kind of tech stuff that I was like, my audience is going to love you. You're a web developer? Yeah, OK. I do both. I do development and design. You use the microphone. Please hold the microphone. And when this clown talks, you hold it to his mouth. So what do you do? I'm a designer and a developer. OK. But you really know your stuff. I've been doing it for about five years now. OK. And you were talking about your Mac running PC software. Yes. What the hell is that all about? I have the new Intel Mac book just reinstalled reformat everything and running parallels on it. So you can run Windows XP or Vista even, which Vista sucks, inside of OSX natively. And you can kind of mix it and go back and forth with kind of the best of both worlds if you need to run Windows apps in OSX. Oh, sorry. Exactly. So that's why we don't do it with big tech show. Because I don't get it. But the Vista is big news. We have to talk about it, right? It is big news. You have to admit, don't get mad just because you're a Mac guy. It's big news. You're both. OK. What is so bad about the Vista? It's a shinier version of XP that doesn't really give you much of anything, other than it runs slower. And it asks you if you want to do everything a million times. Like, click this. Are you sure you want to click this? Yes. Like that Mac versus PC thing with the guy standing behind him. That's the matrix guy. It's exactly how it is. Like, it's absurd how to that degree that they took it to make it secure. It just makes it non-useful. Nicole, what is your experience with this? I actually upgraded to Vista just recently. Because here's my little knock on windows. My PC just got a huge virus. It asks about the app virus. I'll teach you to download porn. I know. I've really tried to problem it. I'm really sorry. God. So kidding. Asian boys. Yes. Best. You know about that side, too? Come so young. Oh, young. But anyway, it's got a virus. Watch that. Everything off my computer. I've upgraded to Vista. Pretty much Microsoft has copied off of Mac, of the interface. They've got the pretty, what they call, gadgets instead of widgets. Well, that is good. Yeah. Totally different. Yeah, it's so different. The clock and the rotini pictures. Even Yahoo widgets has that. So it's great. They've got the little shadow across all the windows. Everything looks exactly-- it's almost to the T on a Mac. And again, with the allow and deny thing, every time you want to install a program, every time you want to access anything, it's like, would you like to allow or deny your cancel? And I feel like that's what is that Microsoft's way of, you know, this way you won't get any virus. It'll be fine. But yeah. And that's-- so you did this to cure your viruses and now you're just annoyed. Yeah. I just-- well, I mean, I upgraded to Vista because I was like, well, I had it. I just wanted to see what was going to happen as if my computer was already fine. Your computer melted. My computer melted. But I mean, it's not that great. I mean, it's just pretty much-- it looks pretty. You know, I don't really know. I haven't dug too deep into the PC too much because I'm-- you know, I'm kind of both. I work on Mac and PC. But, you know, again, it's just-- I feel like it's just more of the interface making it look pretty. I have no idea if Microsoft has actually, you know, passed up some of the holes they may have. But, you know, I feel like Microsoft just kind of basically-- somebody else will put something out there and they'll be like, oh, let's just copy off of that, you know? You know, guys? Commodore? I just want us to pounce. Bring it back. Bring it back. I think so. It really makes you wonder what they've been doing for five or six years since they really-- Somewhere in, like, an underground bunker, somebody's about to push a button and you're about to find out. Probably. Commodore 64 coming back. I'll teach you to laugh at me. Commodore Amiga, dude. That's like one of my favorite games when I was a kid. I had a Commodore. I blew it up. I was-- I'm the guy who, like, just likes to play with things and see what makes them work and I done plugged the cable from the back and they had, like, multiple ports that all look the same but weren't the same and I went, what happened if I plugged this one in and then-- You still do that? The screen went, like, snowy and-- [LAUGHS] Do you still do that? Oh, yeah. I'm hard for, like, get into stuff and see how. Your wife's going to wake up and be like, I have a headache, honey. [SCREAMS] The top of her head's going to be busy, like her braids just going to be exposed. You'd be like, what? I'm trying to be a perfect-- no. No. No. You don't do human testing. Not human. Just hardware, computer, stuff like that. I have a headache. [SCREAMS] I just told my parents-- That's how people become evil scientists. All right. It's nice talking to you. Nice talking to you, Nicole. Thanks for coming on the show. What's our minutes looking like? Where are we at? We're still recording, right? We're still doing good. We're kicking ass. We're kicking ass. We're kicking ass. I had a red red camera. Oh, yeah. Because it's so that we can spy on people. You know there's an option on the DVX to turn the red light off so you can go up skirts and stuff? Yeah. It's the background. What? We're not recording. So we want to bring you guys more video games, and we will. You guys are all-- do you play any video games, Nicole? I do. What do you play? Wait. Get back over here. Why don't you off too much. Talk about games. What do you play? Well, I have an Xbox, I have a PS2, I have a PSP, and I have a Game Boy. No, we? No, no, we, yes. I'm still-- the games that I play, I'm a huge, huge fan of "Dead or Live." I love those games. I have Final Fantasy Halo 2. I just recently got into-- You know that they're masturbating right now. Does that change anything? No. I'll still play the new games, but I've played it, I've got it for-- Does that change anything for you? Not at all. We're in a hotel room. Oh, God. There's a band right behind us. So you guys, next week-- That's a totally different show. Come on now. So we'll keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. They're like, yes. Continue. I'm almost there. [LAUGHTER] God of War is another game that-- God of War 2's coming out this month. Yeah. Amazing. I can't wait. I love the fact that in the games, I'm huge into the blood and guts, so I'm sorry. But he just-- because I was playing it yesterday, and he literally takes people and rips them in half. And then-- Yes, sweet. --because there's a character like Medusa's in the game, maybe he just rips her head off. Sure. You have to. You can use her head to freeze others. Yeah, it's fantastic. That's the kind of stuff that is in "300." You know, it feels like somebody made "God of War" the film. Yeah. You know. Which I wouldn't be opposed to. Just give it a little more substance, Zach. Anyway, video games-- what would you say, "Dead or Alive?" I don't know anything about "Dead or Alive." "Dead or Alive" is just kind of-- it's a very high-paced, you know, fighting game, basically. Is that the one they did that titty movie about? Oh, they did the volleyball one? Is that the one with, like, Jamie Presley in it? No. It was like-- they did a film. Did they do a DOA film? "Dead or Alive?" Yeah. That sounds familiar. I can't-- I heard it was-- they looked terrible. Is "Dead or Alive" the volleyball? No, no, there's a volleyball. There's a volleyball one. And then there's the other one. Yeah. Then there's a "Dead or Alive" that has all the different kind of street fighters. Right. I do not approve. Of a movie. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. But you like fighters. Yeah. All games like that. I love Final Fantasy games, too, because they actually allow you to think. It's a lot of challenging games, though. And it's pretty. I love the graphics, though. I'm going to give you that, too. Now, we had a forum at geekscaped.net, where people were spouting off about what their favorite-- the best video game of all time was. I have some of them right here for you people. Get in on it. Go to the forums, geekscaped.net, and talk to people. This guy, bookie wombat, said "Castlevania Symphony of Night," which I think was like the first PlayStation version of the game. It's supposedly awesome. A guy named Sloppy Bunny said "Ridgeracer," "Old School." Yeah. "I'm on the road." "I'm off the road." You just slide back onto the road. This guy named Goodjira said "Super Metroid," which was the one that was on Super Nintendo. Oh, OK. Really good. "Person Z" said "Age of Empires," which is like a strategy game, right? That's like a conference. That's a resource. Strategy, yeah. Oh, I have no patience for that. I always start out really well, and then something-- for some reason, I always get housed at the end. You know what I mean? It's like a civilization. You always start out great, and then you just get housed. Yeah. Like either they're too easy, where it's like you can make so much of this one thing and then just work everyone with it, or if it's like too complex like that, it just loses me after a while. Like I just don't have the patience. You take it apart. I take it apart. I'm gonna keep saying that until it's funny. These two guys who are after my heart sprocket and ball monkey, they called it. What is your online name? Dude, how dare you? They agree with me, because I love the Zelda games, but really my heart belongs to Monkey Island. Remember those games from LucasArts? The Adventure games. Get the fuck off my show. There was one where you wanted to be a pirate, and it was an adventure game, you know, like look here, pick up, use, move, stick your pee pee in it. It's like type in. I found it all. Remember all those? Remember all those? Monkey Island was one of them, and it was hilarious. We found, there was a long time in college, we found this old computer, like really old computer. You didn't stick your pee pee in it. That makes you get it, but we like booted up and had like all these like crazy old, like typing in. It's a pictures of people getting cut up. Games where it's like, you're walking through the forest, and you find a tree, and then you're just like, climbing a tree. North. You remember those? Those were games, or how do you not do adventure games nowadays? What is the modern, what is today's adventure game? Beyond like a Zelda? World of Warcraft. Yeah. World of Warcraft. I don't play it, but I'm. It's lineage, too. As well as an adventure. Do you play that? I have. I actually just recently started playing that. They're so goin' crazy. There's always been this kind of big battle between lineage, too, and war of world craft. Like, witches. Witches better. They're kind of- Everquest just never showed up. Yeah. It's not good? Well, I mean, I've never played, so I don't know. I'm more of a- It's got that hot chick with ears, and I'm like, I don't think my anatomy works with somebody with those ears. So why am I so attracted to her? I feel like they have that kind of character in like every game. Right. You know? It's just titty elf. It's her name. I am titty elf. Yeah, exactly. All games to you. Yeah, they actually have that character. Like, lineage, too. They've got like a mage, and like, another one of those big elves, like the- Titty elf. The light elf, too. Yeah, they've got the little- Yeah, no, it's true. It's a gang. That's all it is. It's a bikini titty elf, and it's like- And you're only on the box cover. If I see you in the game, I'm gonna cut you. Yeah. Because I do not believe in you, titty elf. Well, it's true. And then the gamers give them, like, a skimpy-sucking clothing, and work. Sure. I love coming a forum topic. What's the best game ever? If I say Monk Island, and you saw some of the people on the forums, what is the best game ever? I love the old games as Zelda. It's like the original Metroid, the Kid Icarus. Like, those adventure, like, the original ones. You can download Kid Icarus on the Wii console now, the virtual console. I know. They're awesome. I love the Wii now, too, though. Like, I'm playing that more and more. That's just- it's fun on the whole new level. Mm-hmm. Best game ever. I would have to go with it, I know it's kind of silly, but the Sonic the Hedgehog games, I used to love those. I love those so much, I used to have- oh my gosh, the Game Gear. Mm-hmm. I used to love those. The Game Gear had that first Sonic game. Yeah. Awesome. But I broke mine by accident. What'd you do? I got a little angry. It was not- The- It wasn't you. It was Dr. Robotnik that did that. It totally was. I got a little- okay, who has not got angry when you play a video game? It's inevitable. You've got a seeking of Kong. It's such a good film. I mean, it's really childish, but you know, I got a little mad, screencrats, I don't see any Game Gear. Dude, that's the worst. All the wireless controls. You just have to worry about it. Well, we used to get a six feet. Right. You know, come back and hit your brother in the head or something, but now it's like everything's wireless. You can break windows. Nice. So, that's video games. Aaron, I wanted to talk to you about Metallocallips, which is like one of the best shows ever. You say it's the best show on so real quickly since we don't usually do TV. Are we still running by the way? I hope so. Get over there. Aaron, our tech. How much time do we have left? Where are we at? If you want me to- Oh, get over here real quick. Spout it. Nine minutes. Go. Metallocallips. What is Metallocallips? You've got to see it. It's good over here. It is seriously the greatest- Because you're a metalhead. What are some of your favorite bands? In Flames, Megadeth, Pantera. You know they're masturbating right now. Slayer, all the good stuff. But if you are a metal fan, Metallocallips is easily the greatest show ever invented. It is- What is it? How is it so cool if you love metal? It's a- Good point. Basically, it's a show- I don't know if you just love hair bands. If you love hair bands, there was a hair band episode actually. It's a show about these five band members in the band that rules the world. Everything that happens in the world depends on what this band does. So they're like the Illuminati. They're what? They're like the- It would be a Bill & Ted, or the Illuminati. They're like the Illuminati in band form. Basically. And every episode something crazy happens and they always end up winning at the end. But it's just- They're almost like superheroes. It's really cool. They're into metal, like they throw in little things. They've had people from Arch Enemy, which is a really big metal band. Devoices. Kirk Hammond and James Hadfield from Metallica have done voices. They'll throw in little things like they did a flashback where the lead singer was working at a burger joint called Demu Burger, which is a play on Demu Burger band, metal band. Look at you. Yeah. You really geek out for this stuff. I totally geek out for this. Yeah. It was definitely on my DVR. Wow. It's one dude right now is listening to you going, "Metal." I love her. What is with this? How do you feel as a metal fan that bros everywhere have started to do this? 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