ABC Wednesday, October 9th. You all can play all day. We want books. We want paper towels in the classroom. Bet you won't raise this too. I'm still waking up the paper towels. Abbott Elementary returns with the new season. We asked the district for more after school programs. They gave us $50 for class beds instead. Critics cheer. Abbott Elementary continues to be one of the funniest and most beloved shows on TV. What y'all doing out there? Taking bribes. Proud of y'all. Abbott Elementary, the season premiere Wednesday, October 9th on ABC and stream on Hulu. Hi, welcome to episode nine. I'm Jonathan London. With me here today is Hayden Black from goodnightburbank.com. Hayden, how are you doing? Sure. We'll hear from you a little bit later on in the program. But tonight, we will go a lot to talk about. A lot to get started on. And I think the first thing we need to do is talk about this isn't just any episode nine. This is episode nine that now has-- Sponsorship. Sponsorship, Hayden, you sound like you know about it. Why don't you tell the crowd a little bit about it for a second? I do. Geekscape is now officially sponsored by netriver.com. I know that, and Jonathan London. If you out there are thinking about putting together a website, storing media files kind of like our show, anywhere netriver.com is kind of the place to go, they're an up-and-coming business. Here's the situation, Hayden. Go on. Situation wasn't this. Broken the fifth wall. We broke it in. Here's the situation, Hayden. About two weeks ago, we started having serious problems keeping our media files online. We just outgrown our pants. So what do you do? You get bigger pants. That's what they do. Bigger pants are expensive. Big boy pants is what you call it. Big boy pants. We couldn't afford bigger pants. So we were trying a bunch of creative ways. Remember when we talked on the phone? Yes. Creative ways of getting cheap storage. 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Get it, realbigfish.com. Nobody say we get back to the episode. Yeah, I love you guys. This is band damage. Out. Go check out neverover.com. And if you're still with us-- I don't know what tell you, I got splashed all over me. Sit me. Let's start episode. Irmeasurable. Number nine. Lucky number nine. Number nine. OK. Tell us real quick about Good Night Burbank. Good Night Burbank is a comedy about the people who bring us the news while they're actually bringing it. So it takes place in a fictional 11 o'clock news setting. And instead of when we throw to the stories-- and it's all real news, by the way, on the show-- when we throw to these fictional reporters, instead of going to the package, we stay on the anchors talking about-- Oh, got it. Whatever they're talking about. Like when you go to your location first. Yes, instead of going to the location, you stay with the people. Because you get a lot of people cursing in real news. You always see the b-roll. And it ends up on the internet of somebody cursing out their television. That's right. And there was a girl on CNN who actually went to the bathroom with her mic live during a bushy speech. That's right. But we try not to do the kind of toilet humor CNN does. But it's a similar thing. But we're all kind of locked in the studio. We don't actually follow us off into the toilets. And it's written. It's all written. It's all scripted. Yes. Yes. All scripted. So is this show. I know. And wait, hold on. I know. And that's why I agreed to do this. You said you leave the script there for me now. I'm sorry I flipped it over. One is in British accent. One is in American dummy accent. That's my script. Why it's a lot smaller. Yeah. That's right. That's right. You have to speak more high about it. And there's no use in Gilmore, for example. You have this show. And who writes it? I write it. OK, just by yourself. By myself, I'll write it. And then what we'll do is we'll do a table read. In this very room, the whole cast gathers. And then we'll make some tweaks, see what works, see what doesn't work, make some changes. People are free to make suggestions and throw out ideas and stuff. And then a week or two later, we'll shoot a bunch of episodes at once. We'll do like four episodes in a day. And then just scatter the releases. When does it go out? Every seven to 10 days, basically. Cool. And now I found out about you because Graham, our beloved Graham Douglas, is on your show from here and there. Yes, he plays Brady. He plays the sound guy who shows up. It's actually the one occasion that we actually do throw to one of these reporters. And we actually do go on location. They then throw to a package, of course, we never see. And then we hear them talking in their off-camera moments. And Brady plays-- Graham plays Brady the sound guy. From now on, Graham. Opposite Molly McNanny, who plays Holly Johnson. Cool. Cool. So that's where people can check it out. Can you check it out on iTunes? You can check it out. iTunes, we're all over the place. But goodnightbooking.com is the main site. And please, if you like it, subscribe. It's free. Subscribe, you know, through iTunes. And we do weddings and bar mitzvahs. Just look ahead of where Geekscape is on the iTunes ranking and go like 20 to 30, 40 up. And there's Goodnight Burbank. Well, today, tomorrow, we could be 40 below. Because we sold out. Or you'll be number one. Oh, that's what happens to people who sell out. So, I'm told. Sounds like a lot of work for a podcast. F that. F that. Now, I'm guessing in episode eight, when you hadn't sold out, you could probably say, fuck that. You can go ahead and still say that. We can say it now, but are you stopping, you refraining? No. I just-- you know, I'm going to drop a couple. When the time is right? Yeah, I got to be rolling, you know what I mean? I got to be flowing with the shit, piss fuck, that kind of stuff. But I'll get it in there, you know. All the Georgia-- When you feel ready, we'll come out. When you feel ready. I don't want to rush you. No, no, no, it's got to be natural. It's got to be-- you know, you're an actor, right? You act in the show. I do act in the show, yes. You'll understand. Yeah. You know the flow. Yes. Once a month. Let me tell you what happened. I told Hayden, let's go see Norbert. Yes, that's right. Our fun goal this weekend, please go see Norbert so we can talk in depth about it for a long time. So Saturday, I go to see Norbert with my friend Steve, who was the guest in last week's episode eight. He just came in from New York, total tough guy that we met. Love the show. He does not show where he puts to put his microphone. He loves Michael Mann movies, loves guns movies, loves tough guy movies. And we show up-- And gay porn, I don't know. We show up to the theater, and Norbert sold out. Oh, that's a good sign. It can only be a good sign. And the theater is totally crowded, and we're looking at our other options, because who wants to really go home once you've braved the Los Angeles Grove? You know the Grove? Oh, yeah. I'm talking and everything else. Once you park and all that, who wants to go home? And how much have you already paid a lot in babysitting at this point, too, I'm assuming, so? Well, I've got several mamas. Oh, so they take care of it for you. I've got a couple. So we're looking at the board, and I'm like, you know what? And maybe we will just go home. And he turns to me and goes, I'll go see Dream Girls. Really tough guy goes, I'll go see Dream Girls, man, if you want. I mean, we're here. It's almost like he was actually propositioning you as subtly and as discreetly as he could. And my response was like, I mean, I didn't really want to see it. But yeah, sure. I mean, we're here. Sure, I'll go see Dream Girls. Go save us seats. I'll go get the popcorn. There's a cut to he's blowing you in the back of this theater. And then what happens? So we went to see Dream Girls. I guess Dream Girls is a cinematic-- it was a player, right? Was it a theatrical production? Look at me. You know, I wrote to it originally, and I hate you. Unless it's Trey Parker and Matt Stone, I hate music. I know, and there's not really officially music. But yes, right. And this-- because I didn't see Chicago. I do see Chicago. I mean, by the way, I just want to agree. I think he's seen director. I hate when people sing about the human condition, out of nowhere. And they sing joyously about it, and it brings a tear to your eyes. Just no, stop that. So I brazed myself for the worst. And I went to see this movie about the rise and fall and rise again of these three female singers. I loved it. Now, it was based on was it soft stuff, right? I got to say, I actually really enjoyed it. You did? Yeah. And the kick it to the story, you and Steve, now happily dating. We didn't have sex. But I was like, hey, he's playing coy for once, boys and girls. Maybe we'll go to the movies again one day, and then we'll tell the women in our lives that we are gay. Well, that's beautiful. I'm going to go to iTunes and download. Good night, Burbank. You've just turned episode nine into a musical. This is probably your first musical episode. Give me a spank. I'm your favorite yank. Go have a wank. I'm not interested. My mouth is your sperm bang. OK. Turn the camera off, or pay. I don't do gay porn for nothing. This show just turned-- Hey, I'll tell you. I'll tell you who's really happy is a Net-- NetRiver.com. NetRiver, really happy. No way. That probably turned to the guy who turned them on to and went, yes, that was the best idea you've had all week. Fire. You're gone. You're going to be homeless in a week. No, actually, I really liked it. I loved just the entire set dressing of everything. All the productions were great. And no, no, no, no, the directing is actually really good. What's up? And the girl from "American Idol"-- Uh-huh. --can sing, baby. Whoops, she can't. This is how much "American Idol" I've watched. Do you watch that? I don't know. Actually, I don't. Literally, I've watched maybe 10 minutes of "American Idol." I don't get it. I don't get the-- Well, it doesn't sound like you get it if you're going to dream goals with your male friends. So I would assume that. The girl in the movie, who is getting all the attention, is a really good singer. Oh, right. She's from the "American Idol" bill. Yeah, and she's-- Something with an "F" in Fabrizio. I don't know. Fabriz. That's it. Fabriz. Because she-- She doubles as some ethereal laundry. And it's awesome. And as far as she goes, she's really good. Jamie Foxx is really good. Eddie Murphy deserves what he is getting attention-wise in this film. Yeah. Not the dating transsexual, so-- No, no, no, no. --or questioning whether he's a male spicy girl's father. He's actually my favorite part of the movie on top of the directing. Just the way that the camera flowed and supported it. Because it's ridiculous. I think musicals are so ridiculous. So Thanksgiving was painful for you. Thanks for being on Christmas. You have to be a fantastic director to really support it visually and not just be like, this is clown. This is clown shoes. By the way, talk of musicals. Did you ever see Mulan Rouge? I did, and I could not stand it. Really? Because I didn't see it at the theatre. I saw it with a lady friend on DVD. And I was amazed how much I liked it. I really wasn't expecting it. I thought it was going to be an evening of torture. Fantastic. Yeah. Baselerman. Baselerman is an awesome director, but-- Australian, which means descended from thieves. So unbelievable. Thieves and criminals, because of what Chubby did. As a British person, you know that you guys started sending your criminals into use to Australia once. The US was no longer your dumping ground. That's right. We find penal colonies all over the world. Right. Yeah, I didn't like Mulan Rouge too much. It felt like I was just watching crack throwing at me. It just didn't stop. I was worn out from all of it. OK. I could see that after a while. But it was-- It wasn't-- You had some nucky involved. It was a delightful film. So maybe the whole experience of that is what really put you over. Very fast. Would you watch it with me? After your description of dream goals and that whole thing? No, I don't think I'd watch it with you. Nor would I probably watch much with you unless lots of people were present and all the lights were on. In which case, we'd go to town. We can't even look at each other. And then maybe we'll watch Ghost Rider together. Because that's probably a manly film. Ghost Rider? My head's on fire. Feels like my head's on fire. Oh, oh, what awful pun can I make about the movie and be in the trailer at the same time. That's it. You know what? It'll be that one. I'm going to see Ghost Rider for you guys and the little kid inside of me who loves comic books and has to see all those movies opening night. But yeah, "Stream Girls," although it's not one of my top 10 movies of the year because it is a musical. I still think it's an impressive movie and at least deserves some of the stuff. Some two things. Some of the kudos that it's getting. So by the way, I want to say, when you called me and said, I want to talk about comics and geeky stuff. I had no idea we're going to be sitting and talking about musicals. I had no idea I was going to end up great. I had no idea I was going to end up seeing "Stream Girls." I didn't. Have you seen-- I don't think you want anything. Hold the mic down there again. You were doing me before the show a bit. You know what? I did end up seeing "Norbit." Now, so "Norbit" was the film you said. Please go see "Norbit." And then I got another phone call very quickly on the Monday. And I wanted that second phone call episode. So I would see "Norbit." I'll tell you about it in about a couple seconds. After I got out of the movie, I immediately called "You," knowing that I had asked you to see "Norbit." That's right. It was on the planet. And now, walk us through that conversation. We initially said, well, go watch "Norbit." And we can talk about "Norbit," because I haven't really seen much in the way of films recently. You laughed and deservedly so, by the way. The last thing I saw, which was "Lady in the Water," I think I said. Oh. "Watch on paper view." Complete waste of time. But what do you expect from a guy who just writes "Twilight Zone" episodes? Right. Very, very good "Twilight Zone" episodes. But "Twilight Zone" shows on the list. Yeah, well, they won very good "Twilight Zone" episodes. So what happened? So anyway, so you said "Lady in the Water," that's awful. Plus, it's old. "Go see "Norbit." And I said, I will. I promise you I will go see it by tonight. I had four days. And I was going to go see it. Thank you. And then I got another phone call, a second phone call. Begging me, begging me not to. I said, I cannot, in good conscience, allow you to spend your money watching this film. That's right. And plus, you said you'll never get that two hours back. You'd be really annoyed at me. This movie started out OK. You see a family drop their black son off by throwing him out of the car in front of an orphanage slash Chinese food restaurant. Which by the way, it's almost a documentary because that happens all the time. And they kick him out of the car. And he's raised by a Chinese couple who runs this orphanage. And when he grows up, the girl that he loved when he was a little girl, and they promise to get married when they grew up, she gets adopted and they move away. The big girl comes and says, you're going to be my boyfriend. And he ends up with that woman. I'm already lying to her. Oh, dude. He does the faz-hoot thing. And it stops being funny after 10 minutes. If that-- 10 seconds, I would say. There are parts of it where I smile and then parts of it right in front of me. But that could have been-- you could have just been passing gas at those moments when he smiled. So here he is, married to this absolute nightmare of a human being. Cheats on him in open public, all that. And the girl that he loved comes back into town wanting to buy the orphanage. This is literally the plot. It is by the orphanage plot, which is just amazing that people still make plots that they pulled from like-- Well, it doesn't sound like plot was all that important when they actually sign down and said, let's make a film involving a fat suit. She wants the orphanage for noble reasons. The evil wife and her brothers, her three brother, gangster brothers, wanted to turn into a strip club. Called-- I think it was-- Cheats for taught? Hidiopolis. I'll go with that one, too. And so Eddie Murphy, Norbit, has to stop them from acquiring it and tricking her, the good girl, into-- oh god, dude, this movie is terrible. It sounds like it. I'm actually thinking of asking you for 10 bucks back now, having to listen to this crap. Right. It was offensive to basically anyone. I mean, not just the black jokes, not just the Chinese jokes, not just the Mexican-- A million racial stereotypes, none of which were actually even funny. After seeing Eddie Murphy the night before in "Dream Girls" and really watching him act and perform, you felt cheated, because you know he could. I watched him in this Norbit thing and was just insulted. There was like a four or five-year-old girl in the seat in front of us, and this is not the kind of movie you want to bring them to. I mean, it's foul, verbally, and just the things that you see. I can't take that when you see that. Not only that, there's a pug in the film, which is a soft part for me as a pug owner, there's one pug in the film. And I was like, oh, you know what? There's a bright spot in this film. And then it starts to effing talk. As if we haven't seen that in an Eddie Murphy movie-- And then never funny, pugs. That's the thing. You give them a voice. It's just one bad fucking clean chance of the night. I love looking at pugs. I love my pugs, I love having my pugs around. I don't want my pug to talk. Man, who wants a pug to talk? What's it going to say? This pug talks like, yo, what's up, man? How you doing? Anything big? Dude, I got so angry. So it sounded like, what, like kind of Walter Cronkite. Right. He was terrible. This movie is insulting. Wasn't there a talking pug in that? It was in Men in Black? Men in Black. I was a talking pug. Not even funny. I mean, every Hackney joke was in this film. Everything that's left over. I really want to grab my little yorky. And I want to grab my yorky right now, and then you can just dub a voice in later. I've been saying something. Check it. Nice. Oh, OK. Is he asleep? He's asleep. We put him to sleep. We try and work dogs into the majority of our episodes. You do? Well, maybe I'll wake him up a little later. I enjoy dogs. A lot. They're my friends. So that was Norbit, which just is terrible. And did you go with Steve as well to Norbit? Oh, god, it's worse. I dragged Laura to see it. Last episode, Laura gave me all this great stuff for Valentine's was a part of the episode. I got a lot of emails from people saying, we love Laura. Is Laura your girlfriend? Yeah, you're so lucky in this and that. And then I dragged her to Norbit, guys. I'm sorry. I dragged her to Norbit. No, what was her take on the film? And then what was her take on you afterwards? Have you ever dragged somebody to a terrible film in the guild? The whole time you're checking on them, hoping that they're having a better time than you know they're really having? Exactly. That's how I spent the majority of Norbit was sitting here and going, knowing that I had dragged her to this movie. I mean, granted, I paid for it. Thank god, but we are both paying for it now. And I'm looking over at her. And she looked like she was in a lot of pain. She's just like this the whole time that Laura spent about 90% of Norbit like this. Just shut down. It made me feel so bad. Well, I appreciate you taking the time to call me afterwards and say, don't bother. Don't see it. Right, because I lost my chance with her. I might as well save my chance with you. Is she single now? She may. She may very well be. Well, I'm going to have to check on her last episodes who she looks like, and maybe he can be fun about it. There you go. Hi, Laura. I'm Hayden. Is this Hayden? Hi. I do good night, Burbank. He does a more practical-- --by a character called Gordon Winston Smide. And Laura, I only did it for you. I only started this whole thing for you. Her body rolls down the stairs. I did it for you. How many great after school specials had that in there? I did it all for you. If I was a psycho, that's what I would say to everybody. Speaking of psychotic things, you heard the news about Universal and the movie that you're trying to make now. Millie Vanilly? That's right. Yes. But now here's something I bet you didn't know. Go for it. Do you know who the original Millie Vanilly actually were? Well, OK. It was Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney continuing their success with Ebony and Ivory. And Michael-- well, actually, both of them were in Blackface. The original Millie Vanilly were actually Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney, and a lot of people know that. All they did was-- well, first off, Paul McCartney had to put Blackface on. And so did Michael Jackson. And they were just wore the dreads. And they did the dancing. And girl, it's true. What was that once on the Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney did? Was it Ebony and Ivory? Oh, say, say, say, say. And then the girl was mine. And then in the video, they're like writing in like a hay bale or something like that. Yeah, it's like some 18th, 19th century, old Western-- That is a ridiculous thing, I think. But the truth of the matter is that Universal has announced that they're going to do a Millie Vanilly biopic, which just seems out of-- OK. OK, James Brown died late last year. And you heard some people talking about maybe doing a biopic. Nothing was really announced. But they go, they go, they go, balls out. Now think about Jimmy. I mean-- They're going balls out for Millie Vanilly. Yeah, think about all the people you could do a biopic about. Stevie and Evon, yet to have a biopic. Millie Vanilly, it's coming to you folks. And I bet you can't wait for it. And you know what's going to be in there is Boney M. They were huge in Europe in the '70s and '80s. And the guy-- What is Europe? Europe is this whole place. It's really pissed off with America right now. Yeah, exactly. Who cares? So Boney M were this kind of a disco group, and hugely successful. I mean, massively successful. And it was three girls and a guy. And the guy would-- We're Boney M. Boney, B-O-N-E-Y-M. And he would sing in this really deep voice and do the dance on stage. And they kind of ran out. I mean, they ran their time type of thing. And then at some point, it was revealed that their producer, Frank Farrion, had actually been the voice of the guy. And then all along he'd been-- And you were being in this crowd. Because Frank Farrion was also the voice of Millie Vanilly. They were his group as well, just about seven or eight years later. You just sounded like Sherlock Holmes. Well, thank you, Maddy. You're like bringing me through the steps of everything. Thank you, Maddy. It was elementary. And it was then revealed. And it was finally revealed. It was me in the exit. In the laundry room in my mother's knickers. Yes! Because I think I would tell our story. And then it turns out, or-- and then what happened was, you say, and then it was revealed. That's why you guys are a little bit cooler than us. Yes, we just saw a more interesting story. And then it was revealed. And then it's so dignified that curtains lifted. That's awesome. Yeah, so there you go. So it happened again. So that was this-- it happened once before. But it was the same guy, Frank Farrion. Yeah, dude, Frank Farrion. Yeah, it's a German guy. German producer himself. No, I think he's doing very well. I don't know why. Actually, what is done since Millie Vanilly's story is a really kind of tragic. And I can see maybe why you'd want to make a movie about him because-- Well, one of them killed himself, so-- Right? Oh, he struggled over those. Spoiler alert. That should have gone. But you know what? We don't know whether it's Millie or Vanilly, so-- You can still watch the film and enjoy it and cry at the end. It was so it's so-- Yeah, no idea why they're doing this. Mark Wahlberg and Matt Damon, you saw them in the departed. Did you see the departed? No. I haven't seen a fake amount. It just came out on DVD. I recommend it. That's how I watch. They're doing a new movie called The Fighter. It's a Massachusetts two brothers and one of them's a boxer. And he's-- And they're rough, rice to fame type thing. And then, of course, who knows what happens. But they're doing a boxing movie now. And Mark Wahlberg's the-- Mark Wahlberg, you know him as Mark E. Mark, who doesn't-- He was a fine actor. He's the boxer, Matt Damon plays his brother, the manager. And that one's been announced. J.J. Abrams, are you a fan? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. I love his work on Tom and Jerry. What? Oh, the alias, J.J. Abrams. Right. Who are you thinking of? That was the work he did just before, Elias. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. He was a struggling jobbing writer. He was waiting tables at the time. I can see the leap. I can see the leap. J.J. Abrams is supposedly for ABC doing a dark tower series. I talked about the card one last week, which I had to reread. Because it was that good, or are you just forgotten? Or it was that bad, and you read it to my sweet show? I was like, wait, I'm-- yeah, I didn't-- I wasn't impressed the first time I read it. And I-- but I was like, you know what? Dude, you were pretty tired when you read that book. It was like midnight 1230. Oh, and so that was very good of you to give it a second chance. Did you change that? Were you really half a comic? And then the morning you have to read it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Grant Morrison stuff would be-- You can't read that at 1230 at night. You just can't read at any point in the day. You've just got to keep rereading it until-- I mean, until you get it. We can talk about that later. The thing about this Stephen King adaptation book was I half read it late at night, and I was like, dude, not that impressive. But it was really worthy. I went back and read it again, and I was really into it. Now, JJ Abrams supposedly is doing a show at ABC. And can you give me the basic plot in a sentence or two? It's like a future Western kind of thing. In Gunslingers-- now, this is somebody who's never read the books. So correct me on geekscape.net if I'm getting it wrong. And buy your stuff from netrover.com. And go to goodnightbubbang.com. Well, you're at it, and I'm subscribed. So I think-- so Gunslingers are chosen, right? Yes. And you have to work your ass off to be a Gunslinger. And it's like a-- So that there's a whole mystique about it, right? And I haven't gotten that far. Literally, all I've read out of all the Dark Tower series. And there's many like his magnum opus. This is like Stephen King's big thing. Because the stand wasn't bad enough, right? The stand wasn't big enough, right? Well, this is his series of books. And all I read is a comic book. So I can't really tell you what it's about. All I can tell you about was what this comic book was about. I was into it. And we'll see what it looks like as a TV series. There was some sad news that was announced. I don't even know if this is that-- I guess they announced it. So it's got to be real. I don't know how sad it's going to be, because you're kind of smiling. The Hardy Men-- I heard about this two nights ago, actually. Somebody said that the Hardy Boys. But it's not called the Hardy Boys. It's called the Hardy Men. It's the Hardy Boys grown up. They're no longer speaking to each other. And of course, they are roped into reuniting for one last adventure. Is this with Nancy Drew? Because do you know who's playing the Hardy Men? I'm frightened to even guess who. Ben Stiller in Tom Cruise. Right. So it's a comedy-- no, no, a gay comedy. Right. That doesn't send a shiver, or what the hell? It sends something down my spine. I'm not quite sure what the-- It weirds you out, doesn't it? Yeah, just the two of them. And then you throw in the Hardy Men. It's very weird. And when-- is this in production-- That's one of those stories that makes you go, what the hell? Is this in production now? It was announced. It was announced, really. Unless you got the stories confused, and they're playing Millie Vanilly. Oh, that would be something else. Which would make far more sounds. That would be something else. That is what's going on in Hollywood news. Is that the Hollywood Minute? That was kind of the-- You know what, I had it. Who knew? Oh, dude, you caused this shiver. I was-- Graham said, you know what would help. Put your clothes back over it. And I think it's a good idea, Graham. If in between the different news subjects that we have, movies, video games, and comics, we run naked around the table, we put a title card up or something. And we could carry it on like when there was Ringo or anything, just to just differentiate. Graham was like, dude, what if you put up a title card or name it or something? And I was like, hey, maybe we could shoot an insert. I thought of the worst name for a segment on our show. The J-Lo down. [LAUGHTER] Oh, Graham's just left the room. Graham's just left the building. Because that's kind of become my unofficial nickname, is J-Lo, because Jonathan Lund-- That's right, it would make sense. So I thought of that. And all good sense in me told me not to name anything with the show, the J-Lo down. So hopefully, this is the last time you will hear of that. Because that's just terrible. Cut to the future, you've renamed the show. Pictures of you with a big ass. Sticking out. The J-Lo down, cut change. Huffed down to you. Yeah, I like it. Start comics, dude. Some of our audiences complain that we don't cover enough comics. I have barely been reading a lot of comics. I read a five-part series. I just finished it, called "The Other Side About Vietnam," which is really awesome. Who wrote that? It was written by a guy-- I actually have a story out of "Wizard" right now-- written by a guy named Jason Aaron. And it's both sides of the Vietnamese soldier and an American soldier. And if it comes back, it'll come out in trade. And you guys should definitely pick it up, because it's a pretty good read, only five issues. He's going into another series called "Scalped," which everybody's talking about as being the Sopranos on an Indian reservation. Oh, I think I saw the first issue. Is it out? I don't think it's out yet. Because I heard about this. Maybe I saw it in a wizard or something like that. But based on his writing on this one, he could be calling it Sopranos in Candyland or whatever the hell most ridiculous idea it is. And I'll still read it, because the writing was very good. Oh, well, it's a good recommendation. But I haven't been reading a lot at Broobakers, Iron Fist. Do you read a lot of superhero books? Not superhero books, per se, because I think-- I mean, I used to as a kid. And then I got to this point where it was the same story over and over and over again. Because they can't kill the characters. So it's just that formula that I got sick of. And then for me-- well, for me, for most people, it was "Watchmen.Night" kind of reinvigorated the genre. And then in the early '90s, you had vertigo start the lines with "Sandman" and "Hellblazer" and "Shade." And just amazing, brilliant stuff. Coincidentally, mostly British people writing it. We don't know too much good rat in here. It's the way they say "reveal." It's probably got them the job. And anyway, I think vertigo is certainly its golden period is over. But for me, all those writers then migrated to Marvel and DC. Because you still get the why the last man and things like that. Oh, yeah, no, sure. Well, of course, there are a couple of things out there. But I'm saying there was that thing in the '90s, where it was like every month, there was just 10 or 15 really good books out. So these great writers, they migrated to Marvel and DC and started writing for their characters. And that was interesting briefly. And now, they've hit the wall with that formula. So I don't really read hero books. Why the last man is great, I do read that. Fables, another vertigo print, which is fantastic. But I've been writing stuff kind of pile up recently, only because I've just been so busy. I've just got literally graphic novels up to here. You were telling me that you were rereading "The Grand Morris" and-- Oh, that's right. Well, the "Invisibles," "Invisibles" started-- No, no, I'm sorry. No, it was "Doom Patrol." "Doom Patrol." Yeah, yeah, he's even earlier work. And so I was-- What is the book about? Well, he did what-- Because I have read it, but I wanted you to explain it. Well, vertigo was doing in the early '90s. They were basically saying to these English writers, take these really obscure characters from our history that we don't care about and do something different with them. And that's why Neil Gaiman picked up a Batman character and transformed it into something. It could never have been under anybody else's skills. And Grant Morrison was given the "Doom Patrol," which was just this kind of another superhero team back from DC's history that really hadn't gone anywhere. And he took the book over-- They'd come up with a revamped version of it. Yeah. And it was probably nowhere. But several times. Yeah, so this was another one that was going nowhere. And he picked it up, and I forget what issue, like 14, 50, somewhere in the teens, wherever it was. And he brought his own stamp onto it. And what a stamp it is, because he's a brilliant writer. He comes up with-- I mean, he can toss off, in one panel, so many concepts. Is he a tosser? No, not by the kind of tosser like that. But I'm sure he enjoys a quick blank. Who doesn't get my British stuff? But he can toss out so many ideas in just one panel that are extraordinary. But it's like reading-- if you read it for any great length of time, it's like reading somebody who's on acid and just what's pouring out of them. So it can be heavy going at times. I've read a lot of his Doom Patrol stuff. It literally wears you out. Yeah, and it gets trippier and trippier as it goes. Think about it as a comic book that wears you out, mentally. Yeah, well, the invisible-- Because there's so much there. --so much there again. But the family circus-- And family circus, much the same way as Graham points out. Very true. Like, how does that just wear you out? But it does, the ideas that he's throwing at you. I mean, when he does the X-Men, remember he had a run on an X-Men. I had a run on American books. It still isn't what he was doing on Doom Patrol or invisible. These ideas are so out there that they're able to run. But he's a great believer in magic as well. Are you? Am I a believer in magic? I am a believer in, ultimately, in two things. One, keeping an open mind. And secondly, knowing that what we know collectively as a race of people amounts to almost nothing. So-- A dragon's true or false? In most probably, false. But, I mean, there's nothing like a good open mind and a great imagination to run with these kind of things, too. I mean, I love that. I don't subscribe to any particular school of thought, I suppose, other than just keeping an open mind. I'm sure that is a school of thought somewhere. Sort of the name of it. The open mind school. What do you got here? Oh, these are some books that I've read recently, especially-- well, a couple I read very recently, just so I could have something to talk about tonight. You're doing fine, buddy. Thanks, Matt. Thanks. You're doing fine. Oh, Matt, I know what I do to fuck so without you, brother. This is J. Lee's Hell Shock. And I just read this. And this was actually-- it was actually really interesting. He does the artwork for the book. I was just talking about the-- It's beautiful. And I think he does this art as well. He writes-- I would say writes and produces. But no, he writes the stories. He writes the words, and he draws the little pictures. And it's so cute. Right, he does the power artwork. Well, it's good that it's beautiful because the book looks great. But it was a really interesting-- What is it? It's about-- I never read it. It's about a woman who, an internist at a psychiatric ward, shades of some kind of-- What is that Batman one? The Arkham Asylum? Arkham Asylum, right? Shades of that, only, of course, normal people, not supervillains. And she kind of gets drawn in into this one particular guy's world, and trying to help him and trying to get to the bottom of his subconscious. And actually, it's interesting. She, I guess, has an open mind. And she starts to believe, and maybe a little too naively and foolishly, that he is something that maybe he shouldn't be. Welcome to Geekscape. Well, let me tell you, sir. Welcome to Geekscape. I don't want to give anything away, but it was really-- Blow your mind. It was really interesting and really cool. And it comes with-- this book came with an adage book, an ending that didn't actually make the-- this was supposed to be the opening of the comic, but they never did it. And I'm glad, because it was one of the ridiculous. What's this big old Tom? This is a recent hardback release, a very slim one, very small one, of a story that appeared in England in the Judge Dred magazine, which is the 2008e stuff. What is that? I mean, because we can hardly get it here in the US. 2008e has been amazing thing about that. It started in 1977. It was aimed at kids. Issue 2 brought with it, of course, Judge Dred. English comics are very different than American ones. The Americans used to write for them. And all of them did. Every one of them did. But the difference between English comics and American ones is Americans, you get a monthly comic with one story in it that's about 30-yard pages. In England, you'll get 30 pages a week with about five different stories, which have those little mini cliffhangers, et cetera. And there was a weekly. In 2008, it began as one of these weeklys in '77. And it's still going very strong. In fact, it's one of the last weekly comics still going in Britain today. It spawned a million-in-one unbelievably brilliant writers and a million-in-one unbelievably brilliant stories, except this one. Not into it. No. Extinct by Paul Kanell, who wrote an episode of Doctor Who. A appropriate name. That wasn't all that brilliant in my mind, either. Yeah, he says that he wants to-- I guess the working title of the story was Dinosaur Commandos. And if that sounds ridiculous, he should have stuck with Dinosaur Commandos, because then I wouldn't have bothered buying them. Because Dinosaur Commandos you're kind of into. Well, Dinosaur Commandos, this just-- it's willfully-- what's the word I'm looking for? It doesn't want you to really care for it. So it's-- Like Norbert. There you go. Norbert tries. Norbert tries really hard. Norbert-- watching Norbert is getting stuck in a party with that dude who thinks he's really funny and no way out of it, kind of like being stuck on a podcast with a host reading my mind. And you still have time before you get to the video game section. Yeah, it's painful. Well, as was this really? If one of our viewers wants to say, OK, I'll make the leap across the pond. What are some of the 2,000 AD stuff for him to look out for? It does. Well, there's so many just. Dred, Rogue Trooper, Strontium Dog, Robohunters, kind of cute and funny as well. ABC Warriors, Nemesis-- Is that the only way any of it? I mean, this is just-- this is a whole new world. It's going to grow my mind. There are so many, and it's all so well done. And it's awful to think that here I am talking about how great this is, and pulling out like a piece of crap. So I apologize. I think that's the danger of having five stories going in a weekly at once. That means the strength of it. Oh, yeah, that's true. That's very true. That's very true. It just doesn't hold up. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say that 2,000 AD doesn't have a clunker every now and then. And it does. It's had more than its fair share of them. And this was one of them. Is this a book? That is a book book, yes, with actual words in it. There are some photographs in there. What is it? Like, two little-- what is it? It's the biography-- What is this big comic book about? It's the biography of Adam and his comic. He just released it over Christmas. The dude who did Angel in the Center pulled his away, we would know him the best. Oh, that's J-Giles? Yeah. Oh, he did goody-tooches. Yeah, Kings of War, Frontier, Doggy, Doggy, Prince Chama. It is my strong point. Apparently not. This is J-Giles. I was a little kid. J-Giles is probably your answer for any 18 questions. I just say J-Giles. I just go, that's J-Giles, right? That's who's actually in the Middle East. No, I actually say it as Adam and right. So J-Giles did Angel in the Center for-- Yeah, freeze frame. In freeze frame frame. And a bunch of albums too, like the before that were-- I don't think as huge or as popular. You're an 80s mastermind. You love this stuff. I love the 80s. Do you want to go to karaoke with us next week? I would love to. We're going to porn karaoke. Try and stop me. OK, there's a lot of porn stars, I guess, show up to karaoke. We're going to do it. I like the sound of it. Hopefully, maybe some time in the future episode, we can tell you about our experience of porn karaoke. Yes, and it's going to be you and I. And what we sang. People tell us about porn karaoke. We show up. It's just going to be dudes who have heard about karaoke. Exactly, I'm showing up. It's going to be really sad. Yeah, just you and me singing relax, don't do it. What do you want to come? We're going to do it. That's going to be really pathetic. And how is this Adam Ann? Adam Ann Barger, if he started off-- I use a good book overall, because I finished it. So there must be something for it that actually went all the way through it. But there's these moments in it where he delivers something that you think is going to be really fascinating. And he just pulls back. He's talking about how he was working on such and such a film when his acting career kind of took off in the late '80s-- Early '90s, exactly. He's in a bunch of B movies. But he'd say things like, and this is when I could use the advice that I learned from so and so on, that one film. This was the perfect time to use it. And then, it was the advice. What? You let me down the garden path of this guy and his brilliant advice. What did you'll bring to tell you in a toilet in the back room of some Hollywood film? But he moves on. It wasn't you'll bring up on you. Whoever it was. Anyway, but it was a good book, it was an interesting read. And it charts his history, not just with a successful music career and an amazingly successful music career, I may add, but also with mental illness. His history, troubled history with mental illness, which is-- Yeah, does that explain the way it's straight? The white stripe, you did the explanation for the white stripe? Yeah, go for it. He fell on a road that was just being freshly painted. On his way to a joke, you just made up. I wouldn't really call it a joke, but I did just make it up. He wanted to take imagery of Indians. I would have believed that, by the way. You would have believed it? Well, had I just set none on serious? It's called acting and acting. Do all the accent. I think it had a lot to do with it. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but he wanted to take some imagery. And he had the costumes and everything else. And then when he came to America, the Indians, the Native Americans, complained. And he said, look, he said, come see one of my shows. If you think I'm making fun of you, I'll take this off. I'll never wear it again. But if you think I'm honoring you, which I am trying to do, and they went and they said, you are honoring us. Thank you, and they let him keep on doing it. And that's true. Yeah, that's in the book. That's actually really interesting. And then you'll bring it set to him. A Journey Song Cherokee, I think it's just an insult to everyone. All right, that's Europe. That's Europe. That's Europe, not Germany. No, not Germany. Journey would never do a song like Final Countdown. So that's interesting books. So that was a good book. When did you go to the US? Many, many hundreds of years ago, in the '80s. And you grew up in-- we moved from Manchester in England to Florida, a Fort Lauderdale, which I later found out-- Your family was latted with your parents and everything. Yeah, well, yeah, my immediate family. OK, so you're young when you moved from Manchester, but the accent sticks. The accent's stuck, yeah. How young do you have to get out for the accent to get out? I think that losing the accent is also a choice, because really-- Well, if I wanted to talk-- just as if you wish to talk English, even whether you were here or whether you moved over to England, you would have to make-- Who's speaking English, dude? A chock. Well, you're a form of it, dude. I'm speaking English. But if you wanted to speak the Queen's English, kind of like you were at Dream Girls, you'd have to make a concerted effort to change how you speak. And I just never made that concerted effort. I guess, because I'm lazy. That's the reason. In just sellout. You didn't sell out like that. I'm not a sellout netriva.com netriva. You put in Gilmore. I was like, dude, you've got to put this in as the code. Gilmore. Our fans will dig it. Oh, sure. So fans are great. Just from being exposed to things like films-- See, I can't talk to somebody with Down syndrome, huh? See, I can't consciously do it, dude. I couldn't do it over and over and over again until the-- It never just washed out of you? No, I've always spoken with the single shacks and it's never left me. Fuck. Get out of here. Crazy, crazy. Do you play a lot of a new game team? You know it's funny, I have an Xbox. I have a PlayStation and a million games. Oh, sorry? And a kick-ass TV, which you can't see, because it's behind the camera. It's wide, guys, and it's big. And I don't play all that often. Because when I do, I realize it's going to take so much time for me to get into it. In the past, I've gotten into games. And it's not to get a commitment. I'm scared of not being able to do things that are important. Just start reading books, too, so come on. Just start reading books. I read readers in the toilet. It's not like any grand commitment there. There's been periods where I think when one of those early Star Wars games came out for the PC, that's all I would do. That's all I would do. And to the point where I got to some level and couldn't get past it and went and bought books on-- Is it one of the flight games? No, no, no, no. I forget it's so long ago for the name. But I just never wanted to go there again. I think the computer crashed. I lost the level I was on. I was like, I'm not going there again. And so even though I've still kept toe in the water, buying all this stuff, I've never let myself get addicted again like that. So you just play it 15 minutes here and there. In a blue moon at this point. Just because everything we go to my book, I just gets busier and busier. I mean, how many games do you actually do that where you get so far? You just don't ever want to recommit yourself. It's too much of a pain in the ass. I lost an Nintendo Game Boy. Game Boy Advance on a plane. And I was so far in so many games. And I lost all of them. And now that you can get all those games on the Nintendo DS and play them, because I just can't recommit to getting those points again. Here's the worst part. I think playing these games. And tell me if this has ever happened to you. You're moving along. You've gotten really far. You've gone from level to level to level. And then you hit save. And you're, OK, good. And then you start messing around. And you do this. And you hit save again. Only the difference between the two last saves is night and day. And now you're on the other side of this world, because you were searching for something on that side. And you just can't find your way back. But you've saved yourself over there. I just hate-- that's what happened to the last game I played. And it's not worth again, Meg. No, it was Final Fantasy. I used to do that a lot in Final Fantasy. OK. Those games. And I just feel like, dude, I got so far. And now I realize that I needed to get something way back there. F that. I never picked those games. Game over. And I also do the thing where I get really far in a game. And I just don't finish it. And there's a DS game. Well, yeah, best by close. And they kicked me out. That Mario and Luigi partners in time, it's like a turn-based role-playing game. Graham beat it over Christmas. And I was like, dude, and he's like, you're at the end. We still talking about video games? Graham beat it. And you were at the end. Congratulations. And then I have a lot of games. Got a war. We're at the end. I have you guys have beat the game. Number two's coming out. I'm probably going to get number two, having yet to beat number one. What's this cool? Got a war. It's based on Greek myth. Pissed to. Basically, it's a great game. Number two's coming out. I definitely want to get it. I'm on the last level of number one. Just haven't sat down to finish it off. Zelda, I'll do it. Monkey Island, I'm there. Any of the other ones, I'll get to the very end and just kind of never take that last leap. So you-- I'm afraid to come in. Are you afraid of success, perhaps? You know, I think maybe I'm keeping myself down. That's why, wait. That can't be true. We're sponsored. NetRiver.com. That's kind of how I feel about video games. There's a video game coming out that I was excited to find out about our listener Big Yanks in New York. He sent this to me through. I am. It was a game. There's what he said. He goes, dude, Monster Squad the game. And it's a game called Monster Madness, Battle for Suburbia. It has nothing to do with Monster Squad, except for the fact that you're a kid. I think you can be one out of a couple kids and you're fighting a bunch of monsters, like zombies and some of that, and you're using kid-like weapons to fight them. So you have the button that you piss you pants? No idea. What movie is that from? I have no clue. Where he uses piss to fight the bullies? Oh, of course. Dreamgirls. No. That was me. That was me fighting the bullies off in the parking lot who found out I had gone to see Dreamgirls. No, remember the boy who could fly? Fred Savage. I think he's a boy to fly. Fred Savage played the little brother and he's on the Hot Wheel. And at the end, the dude goes, what are you going to do? Score me with water and he goes, no. Piss. And he squirts them and the dude goes, no. He freaks out and then he's free. Wow, so it's a film for kids about golden showers. That's cool, right? That's fucking bad. Now I realize that's true. Good for you, MPAA. I am kind of excited to see a game roughly like Monster Squad. I always thought that would be-- every kid, you know that movie won't Monster Squad? I never saw it, but I'm actually-- Are you aware of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to see it. I'll put that on there. I don't think it's available on DVD yet. That's something that needs to be corrected. You hear me? You guys will put Jim Cotta on DVD, which Graham got. Does it hold up? Graham says it holds up. It doesn't date. It does not date. It's as good as it was the first time around. It's timeless. Graham got Jim Cotta on DVD. And they won't put Night of the Comet on DVD. They won't put Monster Squad on DVD. They barely put After Dark on DVD. And the irony, by the way? Before Monster Squad's on DVD, that Milly Vanilly film will probably be on DVD. Dude, injustice in this planet. That's injustice in the world. Graham sent me the absolute worst trailer today. But I'm going to see it, the condemned. Tell me what's not one about. It's another WWE movie. Yeah. It's Steve Austin, Stone Cold, Steve Austin. And one of your buddies, what's the name of-- Vinnie Jones. Oh, yes, one of your friends. They're criminals. And they take 10 or 12 criminals. They put them on an island. And whoever's left gets their freedom. Does Michael Bay direct them? I mean, it sounds like that, but no. The trailer-- I wish I could show it for you guys, but it's available on MySpace. Look it up. Yeah, they're not paying the sponsors. It is a wide, it is a super action trailer, dude. It's huge. I'll go check that out. What's that called? The condemned. The condemned. I cannot wait. Graham sent me a message with the link that just said, three words. What were those words? Super fucking action. I wrote him back and said, three words. He sent me him there. He sent me an email with four words. Jim Carter made me come. I said, good for you. Please stop fucking sending me emails, you asshole. Just a thought. True story. True story. True story? You sent off on that one? No. Yes, of course. I didn't even know. Oh, I'm sorry, silly. Shave my mask, gosh. Give me some twice. Oh, good for you. Yes. His voice cracked prior to this episode, when we were just talking. So people can check you out at-- let's plug it-- Goodnight, Burbank. Goodnight, Burbank.com. Yeah. Good-- well, you're going to put a little thing up. I'll drop it down. So if you want to give me a movie file, boom. [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] Screw it. President of Iran. [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] Goodnight, Burbank. Is a comedy about the people who bring you the news while they're bringing it? Buster Rhimes allegedly attacked a man who spat on his car. Why are black men so sensitive? It can get pretty wild, because when they think their mics are off, it's anchors away. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH] USA Today calls it better than 99% of the stuff on TV. What kind of music was that? Christian, country folk contemporary. I put the Christ back in Christian. What is it you put in the country? Head to goodnightburbank.com, where you can see the shows and sign up to hear your name mentioned as a field reporter. [LAUGHTER] Goodnight Burbank, breaking news, broken reporters. And that was the promo of "Goodnight Burbank," the TV series. It seemed to be a movie. Really? No. Let's do it now. Because, because you know what, is there a Hispanic janitor character that could be for the right price? Is NetRiver interested in offering what? It's on possibility of that. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, that's how you speak Spanish. You just add syllables to it. I was going to say it sounded like you were saying that whoever was Spanish was for-- But then it is a possibility. Oh, I think you're saying Jim Carter made me come to-- [LAUGHTER] Apparently it's a great film. So I don't even know the word. It's so explosive. So goodnightburbank.com. Check it out. Please do. And thank you for having me. No problem. We're geekscave.net, come to geekscave.net. And check out our forums. Check out our news stories, write your own news stories. A lot going on on the website. Zap other people on their profiles. And of course, thank you guys, netriver.com. Sign up. Go ahead and get your 10% off by typing in Gilmore as a promotion code. And they are the guys. And hopefully they'll still be around for episode 10. $29 a month is really cheap. And it's basically getting a dedicated server for $85 a month. It's extremely cheap. That's a very good deal. I'm 10% off that, right? Awesome. Absolutely. There you go. Awesome. Well, what am I going to say, netriver.com now? And thanks a lot, Hayden. Thank you, Jonathan. We'll be seeing you on Goodnight Burbank. Come back any time. Brilliant. I'll be here next week. I like coming back. We're an hour, baby. We're here for an hour. I need somebody to sit next to. That's perfect. It's just like, Sean, we're going to go to porn karaoke. Yo, definitely. And maybe you guys will come with us if they let us have the cameras in there. Or you could just find some time along with Gray and watching Jim Carter.
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