Geekscape

Geekscape 6: Cranked Out Edition

Guest Co-hosts: Writers/Directors of Crank: Mark Neveldine and Brian Taylor - Review: Smoking Aces. The making of Crank. The Oscars announcement feedback! The Departed Sequel/ Prequel? Paul Greengrass goes into Iraq! Old school comics and the plague of 80 Million Spawn #1s!!! Is old school Defender the best game ever? Postal 1 and 2 will decay your moral standards... with a laugh. Elebits for the Wii is a lot of fun! And Jonathan turns down Amy Smart for his comic books... kinda! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Broadcast on:: 30 Jan 2007
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ABC Wednesday, October 9th. You all can play all day. We want books. We want paper towels in the classroom. Bet you won't raise this too. I'm still waking up the paper towels. Abbott Elementary returns with the new season. We asked the district for more after school programs. They gave us $50 for class beds instead. Critics cheer. Abbott Elementary continues to be one of the funniest and most beloved shows on TV. What y'all doing out there? Taking bribes. Proud of y'all. Abbott Elementary, the season premiere Wednesday, October 9th on ABC, and stream on Hulu. Hey, how's it going, John? Gilmore here. Hey, I don't like all those jokes you're doing at my expense, man. So you know what I did? Last night, we were doing eating entoritos, corn dogs, slipped a little something in the ossalsa. It's called the yellow fever. Got it from an ancient Chinese sailor. Got one of these, too. And a mogwai. It's adorable. So it's fatal. Guess what? You dead, bro. Who's laughing now? Mm. Don't we look pretty. Sorry you're dying. Oh, by the way, I taped over your copy of Bloodsport. Hope you don't mind. [SCREAMING] Hello? Graham? What? No, wait, listen. Gilmore did something to me. What? He put something in my corn dog. Creepy. He said it's called the yellow fever. Let me do some research. [COUGHING] All right, it says here, you need to run a gauntlet. What the hell is a gauntlet? No way, John. This is too risky. I'll do it. All right, listen. The ancient Wakanoa tribe, they'd send their sick villagers into isolation, and they'd have to face their fears and watch things so terrible that the sickness would think they were already dead. And then it would have nothing to do, but move on. Problem is, part of them did die. Sounds good enough, I'll do it. Do you have anything that terrible? I have an idea. Perfect. John, John, no! No! [CHEERING] You'll pay for this, you'll more. What's up, guys? Welcome to episode 6 of Geekscape. I'm joined by two friends of mine. The directors of Crank. Why don't you guys introduce yourselves on the mics? What's happening? You put your microwave across. Mark Neville Dean. I'm Brian Taylor. And what were your roles in the film writers, directors, and-- I played the homeless guy. Did you really? On fifth and flower. That's my phone. Nice. Wants to grab that. Your phone sounds like a ray gun going off. [INTERPOSING VOICES] I don't even know where it is. You know what? My apologies. It's over there somewhere. This giant beam's just going to come down. You're going to disappear. It's plasma beam. So we'll get to Crank in a little bit, but we went to see a movie. Smoke and aces, Joe Carnahan's new movie. And you guys went to the premiere. How was that? It was really cool. I was too drunk, I don't remember. Did you see the film? Trust me, it was cool. Yeah, oh, yeah. The film was cool. You know, I thought I kicked ass. I wasn't into all the exposition, but I think some of the coolest shootouts that we've ever seen. Big, big good guns. So this is a movie about Buddy Israel? Buddy Israel. And he's played by Jeremy Piven. And he's basically a dude who's like a Vegas performer. And he works his way into the mob and starts thinking he's a big shot until he gathers too much information. The mob sees him as a-- you know, he starts burning bridges. The mob orders him dead, puts a hit on his head. Yeah, basically he could be in a format in turmoil. And then you've got-- I guess what Karna had said was like he always wanted it. He was always like interested in the story of the legend that you hear of like Frank Sinatra, having all these mob connections. You know, what would happen if a guy like that who had the privilege of just by being an entertainer and having access to all these people? What would happen if one of those guys just, well, fucking, I'm just going to turn the corner and just get into this world? So what's his name? The dude who heads the FBI, who plays him in the-- Andy Garcia. I keep thinking of him getting killed by the Yakuza in Black Rain. That's how I remember Andy Garcia. He orders-- he has Ray Liotta and Ryan Reynolds going and rescue him so that he can turn evidence. And it's kind of this race to this penthouse and Reno. And every bad ass is on his way to collect the $1 million and meanwhile Ray Liotta and Ryan Reynolds have this terrible job of having to get him out there safely and it all kind of comes to the head and like within 30 minutes of everything. So you guys-- Yeah, a movie like this is like all that plot and story and stuff like that. It's kind of like the diamond and snatch. Like nobody really cares. It's just like an excuse to do cool scenes and cool shoot outs and-- Introducing-- But having all the hit men converge on the one person, that's what was great about the movie. Seeing all the different styles of people. And the performers are awesome. Oh, they really work. You don't see these movies for the performance. You see it for the action. But to get an awesome performance out of a lot of character actors really kind of sprinkles it. It was actually, you know, when we were talking, it's kind of funny because there were guys in this movie who we had talked about, names that were floated around before we made Crank. And we thought, I don't know if I should say any specific guys. We thought, man, that guy's just not cool. That guy'll never be cool. Ryan made him cool. And he got fucking hot performances out of some of these guys. And they're all good. I mean, even with Nark and stuff like that, he was able to-- I mean, you remember the performances in that movie. Oh, yeah. Jason Patrick, who, you know, he can be cool sometimes. But you know him as a good actor. And he became this really awesome actor and character in Nark. And I'm always thinking that comedians and actors like that can always make a really good change towards drama and action because their range has to be wider. You know, as a comedian, you probably have to work more without a net. And the safety in the crutches that you get as an actor, you have less of them. Because you're always going for the-- you're always hitting for the fences. So when you're asked to do another role, you're a little feral Jim Carrey. But you're more-- especially guys who, like, they've ever done stand up or live comedy. You know, as an actor, as a movie actor, a lot of these guys just come straight to movies. And they're just like, they're so protected. You know, they always know that they can protect a set, that they can do 50 takes, they can get it just right, they can be as intimate as you want. Whereas some of these guys who've been out there trying to do comedy in a fucking room, I mean, it's like, live or die. I mean, you've got to learn survival skills that regular actors just don't have to learn, you know? So I don't know, maybe that's part of it. Because Ryan Reynolds was, like, two girls in a pizza shop or something like that. Well, I mean, he was this dude who, before Blade 3, which nobody saw, but before Blade 3, like-- Dude, you got jacked for that movie. Nobody was thinking about it. You know, nobody was thinking about him as an action guy. And he comes out in Blade 3, and the dude's totally buff, and girls are into him. And I mean, you see that in this film. I mean, the guy holds it. Yeah, and I mean, there's not, like, a clear protagonist, but he starts breaking out of the pack. You know, it's just an awesome movie. Yeah, it was very cool. I liked it. And the gay, Nazi, Psycho, Road Warriors, guys. Fuck. Yeah, that was pretty fun. That's right. I mean, yeah, it was weird. I mean, we're not going to throw spoilers out, but-- Yeah, yeah, we can't. But there is a kid with a boner. There is that. Crawdy boy. It was a little crawdy boy. He was the best. Is your favorite part of the movie? Oh, yeah. No, I mean, yeah. No, Chuck's. That was fucking kicking. How do they shoot that? Is that just camera control? Probably ramped. It might have done that post. Yeah, it's a post. Just post. There's going to be car in the hands on that shit, you know? He's a-- I mean, did you guys see his first movie? No. No, the one they did before that. No. No. He hit, like, for, like, $5. Who was it called? It was, like, blood and octane, blood and bullets, boy. Oh, yeah. You know, bullets and octane and stuff like that. And didn't see it that way. And people kind of shoved it aside as, like, a Tarantino wannabe, you know, or something that was trying to cash in on all of the craze that Tarantino started. Yeah, Carnahan actually said something great the other day that I heard, which is so true, which is like Tarantino. He's great as he is, and we all love him. And, you know, his movies are sort of ira defining in a way. But at the same time, he sort of gets credit that he doesn't deserve. Because, like, ever since Pulp Fiction, any movie that has guns, any movie that has crazy people-- Good dialogue, you know? It's automatically a Tarantino rip-off. I mean, I don't think Snatch is a Tarantino rip-off. But I mean, it's naturally going to come into that category. I don't think that Robert Rodriguez movies are Tarantino rip-offs. But immediately, if you have a certain content now, it's like, and that's, you know, it's a credit to, like, how important that guy was to film like. But at the same time, we should be able to do crime movies without being a Tarantino. Now, did you guys-- what was the process of getting crank-made? You know, did you guys have that kind of problem, where you were-- You know, in a way, it was really easy. Yeah, I mean, well, what we did was we bought 44 magnums and just, you know, walked in to Lake Shore and Lionsgate and sort of held up the administration. And the magnums weren't very big, but they had 44 of them. Yeah, they started leaking water. And they were just like, oh, OK. We got it. Yeah, no, I mean, it's like any processor. I mean, we wrote it quickly enough. We did this thing and, like, banged it out in 4 and 1/2 days. 4 and 1/2 days? That is true. So you guys lived it, basically? Yeah, we did. We lived it. I mean, I think we started talking about it, Jumbo's Clown Room in Hollywood. Right around the corner from my apartment. Exactly. We-- Yeah, I'm right there on Winona. Stalk me. And, you know, we outlined the thing, knocked it out. We sat on it for about a year because we were directing commercials, like Nike, Motorola, shit like that. And we decided to give it to our production company, and they read it and really liked it. And they said, do you guys really need an agent? You know, this movie should be made. We're just, like, OK, cool, let's do it. Basically, give it to our agency. They hooked us up with Lakeshore. I mean, there's a lot of shit that happened in between. Lakeshore took it out to the studios. All the studios were like, yeah, I don't know. This guy bangs this girl in Chinatown in front of, like, 400 people. We're not sure if we can make this. But people loved it. The response to it was, this is a fucking kick-ass script. But we can't make it. And we heard that, you know, for about a year. We got some actors attached. The studio didn't like the actors. They fell out. And then Lionsgate came in. They read the script, and they got it. And they do movies like this. You know, they take risks. And they took risks on us, which was awesome. You know, we got Jason, and then we were off to the races. Yeah. Is he cool to work with? What do you think? He's a pussy. Is he as tough as he is tough in real life as he is in this movie? He could fuck with some of us in a matter of minutes. Really? He's tough guy. But the great thing about it-- Some of these guys you watch them, you're like, a phony baloney. I say that to myself. Yeah, I mean, Jason's a badass fucking criminal who's a mixed martial artist. Really? Yeah. Jason's no joke. And the great thing about it is like, never gave us any problems. Really? No, I mean-- Because you guys would have gotten your ass kicked. Did it ever come to like, where you guys played as if we got-- No, because you got skills. You got it like a finishing move. What? You probably have some finishing moves. Yeah, I'll show it to you later. OK. But no, I mean, he was-- But he was like-- He was-- you know, you hate to say it, but I mean, the guy was just like a total fucking pleasure every day. He did whatever we needed him to do. He did more than any actor we can think of would have done. He would have done every stunt in the movie if insurance led him. You guys have a lot of them, too, to do those bigGings against the theater smart. We did. Well, yeah. And there's sometimes when as a director, you just have to step in and show him exactly what you want. Right. Right. And that was when we didn't have any-- Even if it becomes an awkward moment. Yeah. Especially when she's asking for the directors to step in. That's right. You guys ever have any fights over her? Huh? Between the two of you guys? No. No. Is she cool? Is her boyfriend cool? Does she have a boyfriend? She was barred from the set. So he was barred. But no, you barred him from the set because he had to do this stuff. You don't want to-- I'll tell you why-- You just don't want her to be self-conscious. Let me tell you why the boyfriend's cool. We never saw him. Well, that's, you know-- I think he said it's for real. What do you mean-- I don't know. I saw no evidence that the guy existed. Yeah. She's cool, though, right? Yeah, Amy's great. Would she be into a guy with a huge closet full of comics? Would that maybe get her her-- Are you trying to say something else? Would she be into that? Oh, I have nothing else to offer, you know? With a huge closet full of comics. That's about the extent of what I got. You know, she got drunk one night after shooting, and she did say something about that. OK, good. Like, why are all the fucking dudes I end up with? Comicless. Like, why does that happen? Yeah, we're going to do that. It's like a pattern. Her boyfriend probably flees blood, right? It's right. She said she wanted to be made love to on top of, like, Hulk and Spider-Man comic books. You know what? That'll probably been the spine. So Amy, I'm going to have to pass. I can't do that. I'm sorry. The comics come first. You know? You got to admire the dedication. The guy. I'd be like, oh, Amy's smart now. Listen, baby, don't touch that. That's limited edition. You can end up with a staple in your ass. All right, right, I'm not doing that. Like, in critters, do you guys remember that those movies critters from the-- I remember him. Remember when the dude comes down, he's a bounty hunter, and he has to kill the critters. And he's masking himself to look like humans. And so he's getting references off of TV, and he gets a playboy, and he references it. And when he becomes the centerfold, he has a giant staple in his stomach. You remember that shit, don't you? Classic. You stayed up and watched all those crap movies, isn't you? We've watched a lot of crap movies. And, you know, if you've seen Crank, then you probably figured that out. I love it. I mean, I watched it-- I don't know if Mark told you this. I watched it on the middle of the desert. I was out in Palm Springs. And they have a dollar theater. And that's the place-- I mean, not to offend any of you guys for not paying high dollar to see the film, but literally, that's the closest thing to a grind house we still have, you know? And the dollar theater, you know, your feet are sticking to the floor. You get into the seats like bending funny. Well, tell him about the Jar of Vaseline that you brought. I did. I did. I brought that. I played a little game with the hole in the popcorn, you know? Just by yourself. Yeah, just by myself, you know? I was hungry. I think Crank, for a buck with the Jar of Vaseline, is like perfect. I mean, that's ideal. Yeah. And there's a thing about this movie. You were talking about it, Mark, how if you're late five minutes of this movie, you may just knock-- Yeah, you're screwed. Because it's not as straight up serious. No, you need to understand the aesthetic and the attitude of Crank. And we give that to you right away with, you know, the video game graphics and bang your head in metal health. It's like quite right. We want to let you know what you're getting into, you know? I mean, we have complaints, you know, in our audience. People were like, why the hell did you recommend this movie? I didn't think it was that great. I mean, those dudes just probably didn't get the fun of it. You know? This is the kind of movie that you're watching with your friends in a series of films. Right. And they're probably right, though. Yeah. Yeah, they're right. It's terrible. No, but the commercials, like from the advertising, they basically sold it as a straight action movie. Grim, you know, got everything. So I don't think anybody really knew that it was a comedy until they got 10 or 15 minutes into the movie. And you kind of scratch your head and go like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This isn't what I thought it was going to be. By the time of the bar fight, when he's in there looking for coke and the black dudes come up and they all point guns at him and he takes them all on to get his journal and pumping. And you see that in a lot of movies. John Carpenter, early on when he didn't have a lot of budget, you see it in, like, Escape from Precinct 13 and stuff, where the person's-- That was a blend of two movies. Escape from Precinct 13. Or what's it called, what's it called, of Precinct 13, where he used in a couple of his movies, where you'll see the characters on camera watching another character's actions, which they didn't have the money to shoot. And they'll be narrating, like, oh, he's almost to the car. Remember the scene in Precinct 13 with the dudes escaping? It's great. The sewer, he's trying to get to the car. And you're like, it's like, come on, dude, that's-- it's a budget thing, but it's kind of a cop-out. And when you guys cut out the fight scene in a normal action movie pulling a move like that, where you just cut to the exterior of the bar, that's a fucking cop-out, you know? And you're just like, who the hell are these guys? But what you guys did with that shot is so funny. And if you don't get it by that shot, you should really leave the theater. Because that was funny as hell. So it goes back to Heathcliff, where where you have like cats biting in the fists, and the exclamation marks are coming out. And that's what you guys did. I mean, what were your references for this movie? You know, like, what was some of the stuff you guys like that led you to be like, oh, we'll just shoot an exterior of the fight scene outside the bar and have the thing hitting like base. Like people are hitting the walls, and it's causing the building to move. I don't know, there were any specific references. I mean, just like from Heathcliff? No. Come over to the monitor. I want to show you some Heathcliff. But from moment to moment in this movie, the whole idea was just like, keep trying to surprise ourselves, you know? And just do stuff that we wouldn't expect to see. Do you guys do that, like, where you direct for each other in the hopes of like, you know, like Brian, you're like, OK, let me throw this idea at Mark. And if he's into it, if he's excited by it, then I know it's a good idea. You know, and you guys end up trying to like top each other, and that's how the movie is-- We do a lot of that. You know, we don't like other people's opinions, but we like our own opinion, you know? So we just kind of bounce them off each other. It's pretty much how we work. And you guys man your own camera, right? And we're competitive, so it's like, you'll have an idea, I'll try to beat it, and then he'll beat it, and then we just go back and forth until it's good. And you guys shoot your own stuff? It's not really bad. Yeah, we shoot everything. You know, and how is that-- like, do you guys have a DP on this? Well, you have to, right. The union requires you to. So we did, and he's cool. But if you look at the stuff that we've shot, and you look at this, it's the same. You know, we do it all. And it must have been good to have a third pair of eyes on the set. Always good, and also to have, you know, somebody lighting a scene that we're going to be shooting a couple hours ahead to save us time when we get there. And he was great, you know, at that. But camera operating was great for us, and it was actually great for Jason to see, because he saw that we're out there on the battlefield. We're putting ourselves in danger. We're hanging off of cars going 80 miles an hour. We're hanging out of helicopters. Wait, who the hell did that? We both did, yeah. Wait, like, the car was going 80 miles an hour, and you're hanging out of it with the camera? Both of us, yeah. And the crash scene? Have you seen it? I mean, I've seen it, but I mean, there's, like, ribs. Have you seen, like, the special features on the DVD? I haven't watched the DVD yet. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, dude. You'll see some-- you'll see some of it. You guys like the jackass of drive? You'll see some interesting-- We're jackasses, for sure. What the hell are you doing? Hanging out of a helicopter? You know what? That's why I want to do Adam Sandler movies one day. I want to be like, you know what? You just kind of come in. I'll be over here, and you just say you have some funny lines, and maybe you make a sound effect, and that's it. But that's not fun. I don't want to be doing that stuff. There's a lot of the most directors that we know. I mean, they sit behind a monitor, and they're in a chair. I don't want to sit behind a monitor. But you know, and then we figured out early on that we're just not those guys. I mean, that's boring, and we can't-- You don't want that separation. Well, no, it's just that we can't do it. It's boring. I mean, the most fun thing on the set is to grab the camera and get into the fucking scene, and it's like we have to do that, because we just-- we couldn't make it. We couldn't-- yeah, we couldn't make it through the shoot. The movie would take forever to shoot, too. It would. So, you know, you're always looking through the camera. You know exactly when you have it, when you can move on, what you want to see. You don't have to tell some guy, you know what I'm saying. Looks good. He's dropping acid over there. And how many days did you guys-- It's 30 days with four mini-unit days, which is like when you have a quarter of the crew. So we did it really fast. You know, we made all of our days. We didn't go-- Mini days. --into our car crash days, stuff like that. But we were shooting big days, seven-page days, six-page days, stuff they told us we shouldn't do, but you have to. We have to, you know? And it must have been good for the actors to have that rhythm, you know? So we like-- They love it. They don't want to be sitting around. You know, forget your lines. And you definitely forget like-- What lines? You know, the pacing, the low on lines. Smoothie was all improv, you didn't know that. So it's fun. This is it. We're going to whore it. The DVD, it's out. It's doing well, too, right? It's doing great. Matter of fact, it's good that you talk to us this week because we're the number one DVD in Rentals right now. We're the number one DVD for sales. And we're the number one Blu-ray DVD in the world. That's awesome. You know what? It's pretty cool. By the way, for viewers with PlayStation 3s, Blu-ray is the ultimate way to see crank. Do you guys have a PlayStation 3? Yes. Well, we'll get to video games. It's great. We'll talk about that. You wait there, you wait there. All right, but all I can say is like, the ultimate way to see crank is on Blu-ray. Better than the theater-- What's the difference? Is it coming out of the view? It's HD. It's exactly the way that we shot it. It looks right. And what you saw in the theater was a cheap print. Especially my theater, because it had been like-- It was $1. Your theater probably looked great. It had like super ate or baited or something. Gum was on it. But for us, I mean, it looked like the screen is all scratched up like the gravelins went through it. And it was even worse after you last. After I left with my butter can, it was done. You machine gun that screen pretty good. I walked down through the match. Yeah. Little much of information there, buddy. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. OK. The Blu-ray is so badass. Is it? Oh. Yeah. Well, I love it. The Oscar nominations came out this morning as of the taping of the show. And-- You were so surprised, man. We were so surprised. I mean, I never thought in a million years that we would get the nomination out. I mean, they gave us what? We got best actor, best-- Who gets seven nominations? Who gets to keep the trophy between the two of you? We're going to melt it down and make bullets out of it and shoot ourselves in the head. But the truth is, I asked for the lower half of the trophy. So we're going to make gold cocks. Bell buckles. Just make spinners or teeth to get, like, you know-- I need a grill, really? Yeah. Two gold cocks. Yeah, the Oscars came out. I just want to look at a couple of categories. That was a good one. Let's see. Best picture was "Babble," "Departed," "Ladders of Miyojima," "Little Miss Sunshine in the Queen." Oh, "Little Miss Sunshine." What did you guys see out of that? "Departed," "Little Miss Sunshine." It was great. Yeah, those are the only two that I saw, too. "Little Miss Sunshine" was great. I saw "Babble," "No Comment." "Departed" was OK. "Yojima," I saw that. That was a-- pretty good. I mean, I was-- I like both of those movies, "Fly to Our Fathers." No, Borat. Why no Borat? Borat nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay. OK. OK. It's cool. It's like, yeah, the Oscars are trying to learn more and more to be hit with the-- Yeah, I can tell by then on it. Yeah, "Queen, Babble, Queen." I mean, that's pretty good. I heard it was a snooze-- like a snooze fest. It's pretty hip, man. I mean, I'm just not going to go see it. I'm not on it. Yeah. They gave us a screener, and I sat with my girlfriend, watched it, but I-- I think my Coke was on it earlier. Yeah. Nice. Coke's great. You watched it with your girlfriend? Yep. What do you think? Only because he thought it was a gay movie. We both-- We made a sequel to Priscilla-- We both kind of-- it was late at night. I don't want to bash the movie. It's not a movie for us. It's not a movie for us. Late at night, put on a little-- We fell asleep. But before I fell asleep, I thought James Cromwell kicked ass. They're talking about all the other actors. I thought he was like-- Right. He was cool. That's the feeling I got with Best Supporting Actor. Alan, what's his name? The older dude from Little Miss Sunshine. Alan Arkin kicked ass. He was good. I thought he stole it. But Greg Keneer. Oh, you like Greg Keneer? I liked him in this film. He's great. You know, he was in the-- He's always great. You know what? And he was good in that "Markie Mark" movie with the-- Which one? With the football player? Oh, yeah. We didn't see that? Invincible. They'd opened against us. We didn't see that. Yeah. I went to see Invincible, but I purchased Crank. All right. They're both good movies. We think a lot of people-- Oh, I see you purchased the DVD. You know what? Oh, I went to the Dollar Theater. No, do you realize how much money that we lost in the box office from people paying for Invincible and then walking into our movie? Kill them. Got gangs of 16-year-olds. Anecdotal evidence of this was amazing. That was PG-13. Yeah. And then our movie was R. So if you walked into Crank, you'd see five minutes after the movie started, you'd see like 50 16-year-olds walk into our theater. Did you get to sit in on theaters? A couple of them. Yeah, a couple of them. We thought that was cool. Like, oh, look it. People are coming late. And then we realized there were a bunch of young kids who paid for Invincible in our movie. That's cool. There was a kid who couldn't been older than 11 in front of me in my theater. That's our target audience. It kind of made me feel bad about the popcorn. But he was into it. He was definitely into it, mainly because of that. Into the popcorn or the movie? No, no, no popcorn. No popcorn. The feds watched this. What else? The feds watched this. Directing Clint Eastwood, Steven Freers, Paul Greengrass, got nominated. I haven't seen 93 yet. Is it good? It's intense, really? Inio Ratu, got nominated for Babel. And Scorsese, for best tractors, you know? Oh, what Greengrass was for United Nations. Did you see that? I was there at September 11th, and I think it's fucking ridiculous they made any of those movies right now. He was actually one of the terrorists. Yeah. No, really. Yeah, I don't know. I didn't see World Trade Center. Or I was back, Brian and I were shooting a movie in Morocco. And he flew back to LA. I flew back to New York, because that's where I'm from. And you know, I was there that day. So it's just like, I'm not ready to see that movie yet. I think it was a little too quick. What was your experience like? Shitty? It was crazy. I mean, I lived up in the morning side near Columbia. And it was just an insane day to have everything just shut down around you. Yeah. And we really have a lot of extra sensory things-- email, phones, all this stuff that we have. And literally, when those towers came out, they had a lot of the cell phone receptors on them. And your cell phone cut out. I was online. I tried not to get off, because I would lose my phone connection. I mean, everybody jumps to these things to communicate with each other, tell everybody they are OK. And all that stuff was dropping like flies. Kind of a scary day. Was your experience similar? Yes. Scary. Doesn't want to get into it. I mean, you still sleep over it. I don't think it's too early to make these films. Somebody's going to make them. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, where did the money go from those films? Did it go to-- what did it go to? Just pockets? Right. Did people get rich off those movies? It's a moral question with you. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it yet. I just feel overall it's too early, but fuck it. I don't want to be talking about that. All right, all right. I got you depressed. Did I get you depressed? No. Because Paul Greengrass in the news is doing another film. This one's about Iraq. He optioned a book. It's called "Imperial Life in the Emerald City, Inside Iraq's Green Zone." So he's going from a 9/11 film into-- I wish it was Watchmen. Fuck, I wish it was Watchmen. Which Zack Snyder's, I guess, doing. But really? Yeah. Is that really going to happen? I don't know. I don't know, but I would love to see. I mean, everybody's like, everybody's like, dude, why would you even make Watchmen into a film? Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. It's too big. You're still going to have the fucking book. Let them try it, you know what I mean? I wanted that tip. Is this the script we got, Watchmen? Uh-uh, I have an Emerson script for that. I wanted to see the Terry Gillian version. Yeah. Did you guys see the last one that he did? Tied land? Mm-hmm. Nobody did. And then we saw that. I think we're losing Terry. I don't know Terry, but-- Losing him in the desert somewhere. I think we're-- I mean, the last couple of movies he's made have just kind of gone further and further to the point where like-- You know who could have made the greatest Watchmen? Maybe like 15 years ago? Robert Altman. Yeah. Because it's such a fun ensemble. I mean, if he could put some energy into it-- And it's a genre inversion. You know, just the way that Nashville is a musical. You know, in "Mash" is a war movie. This was a superhero movie. I wonder if he would have gone for it, you know? I mean, obviously, you know. Who wanted to make a Watchmen movie 15 years ago, though? You know what I mean? I think it's been in the works for 15 years, hasn't it? I mean, I keep hearing about it. I mean, is it the best trade? Is it the best trade paperback? Everybody loves it. But I still think Dark Knight Returns is a better trade. Yeah, they're still different. I don't know. Watchmen-- I mean, Dark Knight Returns was entertaining, and great, and impressive, and I loved it. But Watchmen actually moves you. Yeah, it's an investment. I think that's where it'll pick it up as much. It actually moves you in places in surprising ways that you didn't think that you could get in that format. So I got to give that one the edge. Yeah, I mean, there's movies and there's films. Yeah, films-- which one is ours? I'll let you know, I'll let you know. We just Netflix, the notorious. And I'm like, OK, I have to set aside time to see a Hitchcock movie. But if it's another film, we can just pop it on and have fun with it. I think The Taurus is a little overrated. Do you? Yeah, I do. I mean, we'll get to Hitchcock. I mean, Hitchcock could be an episode. Yeah. No, of course. Oh, I got it. Hitchcock, that'd be a total of-- Hitchcock's mine. That's my boy. However, however-- I just think that one is a little over-- What's your favorite one? Well, I mean, Vertigo. OK. Yeah. Rope. Really? Rope is great. Yeah. I love Rope. I think the acting rope is unbelievable. Rope is underrated, definitely. Well, yeah, I mean, Crank is a movie. I mean, Crank is a movie that you can put on anytime, and you're going to have fun. It doesn't matter what scene you kick into it. If you watch it all the way through once, you're still going to enjoy it. Are you offended by the fact that you guys made a movie? No, that's what we wanted. Not a film. We wanted to sell popcorn. Because I called the AFI, and they yelled at me for being like, no, we're not putting that on our list. It's not natural. It's not a film, dude. Yeah. This is not a film. Well, we didn't shoot on film, by the way, so on. Yeah, what'd you guys shoot on? HD. OK. Cool. Sony with '50s. I mean, could you guys have held been going 80 miles an hour hanging out of cars with film? Yeah. Yeah, you know. Actually, actually-- It'd been easier. Yeah. It would have been easier, yeah, because the new HD rigs that we use, the latest generation, the cameras aren't huge, but they're all tethered to a deck. So you've always got a cable that you've got to negotiate around. So what we did at some points to get past that is we actually created this rig that you wouldn't believe. You'll see it on a DVD, but it's like a 60-pound backpack. They had the recording deck on it, and all this fucking gear on it. And then we strapped it on Mark's back, and he held the camera. He held the camera on Mark's back. No, because check this out, because then he-- No, because check this out, because then he's on roller blades. What? With a 60-pound backpack. With literally probably a third of a million dollars worth of gear strapped to him. And he's literally hanging on to the back of a motorcycle on roller skates. I find the way. 40, 50 miles an hour. What? This is true. You'll see the footage. Yeah, you should watch some of it on the Cranked Out mode. That's ridiculous. But you got to get the Blu-ray, because then it's got more stuff. It's interesting. Was there any point where you guys were making it? I wasn't myself that day, OK? You're like, you know what? I'm not going to do that. I will die. By the way, Sony should give us Sony stock. Like, we should own part of Sony, because we shot this movie on their cameras, and we watch it on Blu-ray. It's the best looking Blu-ray ever. It makes Blu-ray looks better than Blu-ray looks. It looks red. But there wasn't a point where you said-- We should all get free copies of Spider-Man 3. There wasn't a point where you guys said, no, that's a dumb idea. We can't do it. Well, yeah, we set up until the last part. Right. We'd say, yeah, that's a dumb idea. Let's do it. If it was a good idea, we probably passed. And you guys ever draw straws for who gets to do it? I don't skate, so I didn't do that one. But no, if it was working on it. I like the next movie. I like that you're still using roller blades. The roller blade people are like, wow, is he still-- Yeah, mission-- I use mission roller blades. Mission eye tech. And that's how you work out. Do you exercise on those things? I do. I do, I know. I lift weights. Nobody makes money in for doing roller blades. I'm more of like a roller hockey player, so now a lot of people want to make fun of me. It's not gay. It's not gay the way he does. It's not roller skates. I'm doing a show called geekscape. Oh, yeah, yeah, geekscape. So I can't be calling anybody a geek for doing roller blades. Well, you know, it's not the roller blade so much that makes it questionable. It's that he's got the boombox on his shoulder. It's the banana hammock. I need motivation. I need the yellow. It's the bright neon yellow. I need motivation. And it's playing like aqua. Well, you know what aqua is, but I'll take it. So you guys saw the departed. Mark Walberg started talking this past week about rumors of doing a departed sequel or prequel because they did it with the Asian versions of the movies. Any ideas on whether or not that's a terrible mistake? Well, I think Walberg kicked ass in the movie. I was at surprising performance. You got nominated. Oh, he did. Oh, good for him. All right, you know, the movie was good. I don't know. I didn't buy the accent. I didn't buy the accent. What? I didn't buy the accent. OK. That's actually his real accent. I'd buy it even less. No, that's actually really how he talks. It's funny because a lot of people didn't know that. But I don't know. I don't know if I'd want to see a departed or prequel to or-- You know what I mean? I didn't see it for a long time in the theaters. And all my buddies who were like Scorsese guys, I swear to God, I had these guys come up and go and do it. This is the best Scorsese movie ever. Like, guys who should know better than really? It's not. It's that good. When I finally saw it, I was like, I don't even think it's in the top five Scorsese movies. What's your top? That's how we do this. Well, give me a list. Taxi driver is number one. Raging bull, right? King of Comedy. Good fellas, casino. Good fellas is number two for me. Which one of those five movies-- In Mean Streets isn't on there? Mean Streets. Which one of those six movies is departed better than? Right. You're going to tell me Depart is better than King of Comedy? I don't think so. What about the Tibet one that he did? I didn't see that one. You know when he got like in his late '90s, early-- I think it's better than Gangster New York. You know, dude, Gangster New York is something else. I mean, that movie-- But at the same time, is there anything in departed that's as cool as the performance by Daniel D. Lynch? I don't know. Yeah, you're right. That's the point about that movie. Got a good point. No, it's the only thing about that movie. But it's so good that it almost like sets that movie apart. Like, that movie has a reason to exist. And then I look at Depart, and I'm like, why is this movie here? There's nothing we haven't seen in other movies that's better. You know what I mean? It's like, it's all good. It's just good. But I mean, what is it in that movie that's transcendent that really needed to be? And that's how they're talking about this. I don't see it. I think a lot of it's just people enjoy having Martin Scorsese back with a movie that they love watching. Well, it was definitely engaging. I mean, obviously, millions of people saw the movie. Boy, it took me out of the movie. The one scene that took me out of the movie was the Asian gang scene. I didn't buy-- Because you guys did it better. That scene. Were you jealous that more people were seeing that Asian gang depicting the mirrors? Is that what this was? No, but that was the one scene where I felt was kind of out of place, that's all. But I thought it was a good movie. You know, I enjoyed it. It was real awesome. I mean, DiCaprio was incredible. Damon was incredible. I mean, it was really good. All of a sudden, he was fun to watch. And all of a sudden, I'm just saying, like, for a Scorsese movie, and it's like, I just don't see how you can rank that with his great movies. Did you guys do a lot of gang research in person? When you guys-- I mean, anybody can hang out of a fucking car. But, dude, did you guys go down low and start becoming some of the CDR characters that you guys depicted? Absolutely. No. Do gang fangs count as gang research? We drank a lot of bar gear. I drop on and just be like, you got to put on my-- But, you know, we actually had some real gang dudes in our movie. I got a good one for you in the biker bar, the scene you mentioned. Those were all blacks. They were real blacks, and they were also real bikers from that real biker bar. Oh, wow. And I don't know if I can say this. You guys just showed up and showed up. No, but like halfway through the day, we realized it was a gay bar. At least, we think it was. Yeah, we don't know the true story. Our crew tells us it was. And, you know, who knows? Well, that's funny. That is actually funny. Which gives that movie like a real-- or that scene a really creepy undertone? Yeah. That wasn't actually written in the script. Yeah. We thought this is scary. You know, I think Peewee's Big Adventure did a better job of the biker scene, with the dude gets thrown out at the end. I agree. You know? It's just my opinion. Better bike, too, by the way. Better bike, too, by the way. My favorite Tim Burton movie, also. I could go along with that. And, you know, if we could ever do a scene in any of our movies to come assuming we work again, that's as good as Peewee running out of the burning pet store. It's amazing. Then, I feel like we could retire. Amazing. And you guys are working on new stuff, right? You guys are writing new scripts and things? We're pretty busy. Yeah. We're writing three movies. What? We're writing three movies right now. You guys had one of you. Last week, you guys had one? No, we literally did yesterday. And we had another movie. But we're producing a movie right now called Pathology with Lakeshore. We've got a cool German direct round board. And we're writing a movie for Lakeshore, another movie for Lakeshore. Actually, we're writing two more movies for Lakeshore. And a movie for Warner Brothers. Oh, cool. Very cool. Very cool. So comics, you're saying that Brian, you're telling me that you're-- Dane Cook. Oh, comic books, or-- Yeah, right. Dane Cook. He's still ahead of us on iTunes. But he can feel our breath right behind him on his neck. Literally. We're coming for you, Dane. So yeah, when did you read comics? I mean, I read comics when I was a kid, and I was a collector. I mean, I used to go to the comic conventions, enter the art contests, and all that, you know? And do you draw your own storyboards? Yeah. OK. So you haven't lost that, that love of drawing. And do you think it helped you mentally become a director? Absolutely. Yeah, because I mean, you're just telling stories and frames. It's the same thing. You definitely pick up a feel for cutting, you know? Yeah, I don't think Todd McFarland hangs out at cars at eight miles an hour. No. But he does do crazy shit like bit on baseballs. That's way crazier than anything that we'll ever do. Thanks 7 million bucks. So insane. What kind of stuff did you guys do? You got a steroid ball. You weren't too into comics, were you? Not really. No. Nobody yet. So we found out he has Hulk number one. Hulk number one. He's got Hulk number one. You know that. Outside of that, I've got a lot of other shitty comics. I read Hulk. And another comic book that I don't want to talk about. OK. I hate you. I hate you. Load the gun, but you don't fire it. And we're both like-- But we're adapting this comic book into a movie, so that's why we can't talk about it. You definitely can't talk about it. But you know what? Knowing the material, I'm excited. And knowing Crank, I'm excited to see you guys do it. If you guys do it. Because in Hollywood, things change all the time. But when I heard it was you guys, I endorsed that. My endorsement. That's pretty good. Dude's got a closet full of comic books. I turned down a new smart for my comic books. Not really. Not at all, actually. So comics. Brian, what would you read? What are some of the things that-- I was just the old school Marvel guy, man. It was like Daredevil, X-Men, Spider-Man, fantastic for all of that stuff. You were in the store on the Secret Wars, like, started coming in. Yeah. Oh. Oh, that's awesome. I was down at like 7/11 trying to steal copies of that stuff. Oh, that's awesome. Because that was the crossover to start crossovers. But we were talking about-- so when I stopped reading was like when they started-- Doing foil covers. Yeah, when they started coloring them with Photoshop. And I just-- I couldn't deal with it anymore. Well, the papers got too nice, and the prices went up. When was that? The prices went up. The early '90s, when people were like, OK, we'll do a million foil covers. I still have people who are like, Johnny, you know comics. Some of them may be in our audience. But they're like, dude, you know comics. So I got an issue with spawn number one. How much do you think that's worth? It's mint condition. And I'm like, you know, who else has a fucking copy of spawn number one? About 8 million people. OK. It's not worth anything. It was a limited edition of 8 million. I mean, but that's what comics used to sell it. The comics used to sell in the millions. And I get the breakdown. I get the sales charts every month for comics. And the hottest comic sells in the 300,000s, you know? And that's it. That early '90s, when you got out, a lot of people got out. It really killed comics, you know? And even with the movies, nobody cares. You'd rather see the movie than read it, you know? Well, I'm the one I like about your movies. It's definitely a comic book, you know? It's cartoonish. It's cartoonish. Jason should have played the Punisher. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, you can say that about-- There's a lot of roles he should have played. When I found out that they were not a Punisher, he was the guy I wanted to see it do it, you know? Can he lose the accent? Can he do an American accent? Sure. He's pretty good on you. And he actually asked us for crank, because our movie was written as an LA guy. So it was totally for us to take this guy in that respect. But he asked, do you want me to do an American accent? Well, you hear the guy talk, you're like, no, no, man. It's talking to you talk. It works, great. It works, especially in the trailer. My name is Jeff Chelyos. Like, what was your name? My name is Jeff Chelyos, which is right up through with, my name is Domino Hoppy. I'm a bounty hunter. And you're the man now, dog. Those phrases that are in the trailer. And you probably don't even see the movie, but they're the phrases. And you're just like, shut up. Yeah, well, we want people to laugh about it. I'm Jeff Chelyos. I love names. What? It's funny. You know what? Let's call rockstar games right now and ask them to let you guys do the Grand Theft Auto movie. OK. How fucking kick ass would that be? But I feel like that's basically what you guys did. I feel like we did it. We beat him to it. We'd be like a sequel. I mean, it's fun like that, you know? I mean, so-- But you know, the main reason, I mean, like Crank reminds us of GTA is because the world of Crank is this sort of open sandbox world. And this character dives into it. He goes anywhere. He can go anywhere he want to go and do whatever he wants to do. And for those people living in LA, or who are familiar with LA, you guys are pretty good with the geography. He's headed to that neighborhood. He's in that neighborhood. Right. Now here's another cool thing. You guys were really careful writing that stuff. You know, we use the Google Maps as transitions. If you freeze those on the DVD and you look at the map position on it, that's the location where we shot the scene. So you can follow those maps literally to the actual location where we shot. So it's like star maps. Yes. We can get a little-- We actually have fans right now at all those locations, just standing there. It's a bunch of little tiny old kids. Man, that's stuck into this theater. You could do a Crank tour of LA. Just like going through the DVD. That's cool. That's really cool because that drives me nuts. You watch something. And it's set in a city where you're really familiar. The movie I'm reviewing next week is the new hitcher. And they shot it in Austin when we were up. We know Dave. Pretty good. Yeah, and his cameo in the movie is pretty funny. But I'm like, wait, that doesn't fucking go there? You know, you recognize the location, but it's the geography's messed up. And you guys stuck really close to it. We thought of LA as like a character in the movie. That's why we had-- even though it was more expensive and it was a pain in the ass to shoot in LA, we thought we can't really shoot it anyplace else. Because LA, the idea of LA and LA being this ADD, you know, city without a history that just kind of only exists in the here and now is so integral. It really is. You know, it's like he's an extension of the city in all of its shallowness, just like congestion. In his British accent. That's right. With the British accent. Because everybody here is transplanted from somewhere else. That's true. I know. It's very rare that you meet in the San, you know, Los Angelino, but video games. Keep rocking on the video games. GTA, you guys play all those? They're the best game franchise next to Zelda. You know, GTA Z. GTA and Postal 2 are the only two games I've ever beaten. What happened to Postal? I played the first one. It was awesome. The first one's great. You didn't like Postal 2? I never got it. I didn't even know it existed up until you just said it. You're kidding me. Dude, that game was so-- Postal 2 is the greatest game ever. It's literally a guy who just snaps. And you hear voices the more you kick ass. You might need to be disqualified as the host of this show. I mean, there's people out there-- You know what? I bought the Battle Sargillactica mini-series. Even I know. I did buy the Battle Sargillactica mini-series. Dude, you realize your fans are out there right now going like, what the fuck? No, they are going postal. What's the matter? They're like tearing off their incredible whole-- Dude, you need to get that game today. For the PC or-- Get it for-- well, I played it on PC. OK. That's when I played Postal 1. Dude, the postal one was great by the way. When you start ramping up in that game and killing a lot of people, you start hearing voices. Oh, I know. I started looking over my shoulder. I was like, no, no, no, wait. That's the game. OK, that's the game. Yeah. That's the game. Sometimes I get what game-- The best thing in Postal 1-- you remember in Postal 1, we're sometimes just in Congress. We're out of the blue, you'll hear-- OJ. [LAUGHTER] So great. What I like is those moments they put in the game that just make you smile, like, oh, there's a parade today. I mean, no, seriously. You're all dead. Look, you all know what I mean about Postal 2, but seriously, they're a place in Postal 2. I'm just going to say this, and then you'll know you've got to get it today. There are places in that where just because you feel like it, not to accomplish any mission objective or anything, you can throw a Molotov cocktail on an elephant and light him on fire. And he goes crazy and starts stomping. People, like cheerleaders and stuff. I think it's a comment on the Republic. It's so great. There's a game feature in Postal 2, where you can catch cats who are running around. You catch them, and you shove them on their ass onto your shotgun and use them as a silencer. How do you not have this game? Where's the pen? I got to write that down. I got to get them. That's the movie we want to make, man. Fuck GTA. We want to make Postal. But I think you eat bowls doing Postal. You're enjoying the-- [INAUDIBLE] Wow. I think that was a franchise that just went too far. And people just-- They'll be back. They'll be back. I didn't know about the elephant, but I like it. I mean, GTA, you can do stuff. But you can't do shit that fucked up, you know? That takes it to a whole new level. That's creative. GTA is a different experience. GTA is about the experience of hitting some massive jump, and it's like dawn, and the sun is setting in the background. You're listening to the guitar solo from "Sister Christian." And you're getting huge air. How do you do the jumps when I have-- It goes to your person, and you see yourself. How do you do the jumps when I have a hooker in the car? My stepmom listens to the show right now. She's like, oh my god. He's playing this game. I'm playing it, and I love it. I refuse to put pay hookers in GTA. I don't believe in it. So after they're done filling up my health, they start to open the car door, you know? I want to see-- I want to see the animation of them opening the car door, and then I go, no, no, no, not today. And I started driving, right? And I try to look for the most effed-up ramp that I know I'm not going to land, but I can crawl out of the car fast as they can, as it lights on fire and explodes. Oh, that's fun. That's fun. That's just one of those added bonuses. So you like crank, did you? Crank was great. Crank was great. Crank's fun. You know, and people are like, you hyped up this film too much. I hate you, you know? So whatever, sue me. I mean, you guys definitely didn't-- I mean, they should hate fresh bodies. They should hate us. They shouldn't hate you. They hate me for-- Put the hate on your stuff. You're just the symptom, where the actual disease-- I didn't make the heroin. OK? I just gave it out for free, you know? What else do you put in? There's a lot of old-school retro game references in this. You guys start out with a graphic that looks like a load screen from an old Atari game. What's some of the old old-school stuff that you guys were into? I was like the King of Defender. Really? Yeah, and Defender is the King of Games. I still believe that to this day. Are you on Xbox Live? No. You can get a game on there that basically plays like Defender, where you're always shooting and you press the buttons. But I mean, if you're playing like a real Defender machine, I think came out, it had like 12 controls. I mean, there were like so many buttons on it. Nobody could conceive of it. Right. And I remember when that fucking game first came out. The guys who invented the game, I read some really great shit about Defender. They thought you would top it out. It didn't do any research. No, you don't understand. I mean, this game was like an obsession. I used to blow off classes to play Defender all day because a machine was broken and it had infinite tokens. But when the guys-- You broke it. Yeah, probably. But the guys who invented that game, they figured you'd top it out at 50,000. Like the developers, they're like, nobody could ever get more than 50,000. Because by the time it's 50,000, you've got 12 controls. The screen is so crazy, you can't even fucking move. And so they put the game out there and they would sit on couches and watch kids play it. Within a week, the first person had turned it over, which means you got a million and it went back to all zeros. Well, they were just like, couldn't believe it. Did you ever do that? Yeah, I would turn it over multiple times. And that's why they took the Defender machines out of the arcades because they'd have this thing sitting out there and it'd have 50 cents in it at the end of the day because guys like me would go in and play for like two hours on one quarter. Wow. We have problems, real problems. What kind of stuff did you play, Mark? It was Pac-Man, you know, that was my game. He had Pac-Man fever. I had Pac-Man fever. I mean, it's a classic. I mean, there were people talking on our side about how they would just want that classic. You know, put it up, you know. We had an arcade machine upstairs, my stepmom loved Ms. Pac-Man, which I guess we were talking to episodes ago was faster than the original Pac-Man. Ms. Pac-Man was great, you know. That's a good game, that's a good game. I don't really see the difference. I mean, I came up, I remember the end of Atari with a 10-yard fight and stuff like that. Like, I remember the very end of the Spider-Man game where you're going up the building and the green goblins going back and forth. It was a G.I. Joe game with a giant cobra in the middle and you had to try and safely get your G.I. Joe's across the bottom. Those are the games I remember. I remember Mario Brothers too, you know. The first Mario Brothers. Yeah, and then doing like the negative underworlds and stuff like that and it was the other one I beat. I beat Kid Icarus. I don't know why I played that game, but. Kid Icarus was amazing. Yeah, that was a trip. Why would you do a Kid Icarus for the Wii? You know? That'd be a trip. They always update those franchises. They update the Mario franchise every time. They update the Metroid franchise and the Zelda franchise is every time there's a new system. I want Kid Icarus. I would love to see a new Rygar game. So is we really cool? Harnov. Is we really cool? Harnov is the one that I want to see. Yeah, I got a game off of VJ's recommendation. Thanks, Veech. Now that I'm addicted to Dick, you're called Elibets. You're addicted to Dick. I'm addicted to Dick. I'm addicted to Dick. So I got this game called Elibets where you're a little kid and the power goes out and you can't watch TV. That's literally the lame-ass story for this game. So to get the power back on, you have to catch these little electrical monsters running around and zap them and it wats up your lights. And if you're into those things like Katamari Damasi where you roll a giant ball and it gets bigger, if you're into the puzzle games, remember Lemmings? Remember the Lemmings games where you had a bunch of little guys walking across the screen and was that like an Apple game or something? Yeah, yeah, I know. I had to set stuff up in front of them and there were different Lemmings. There were Lemmings who could dig, and there were Lemmings that could parachute. I remember the parachute once. Yeah, you had to stop them from dying. Yeah, that's right. I didn't play this game. I didn't play this game. If you like puzzle games like that, this is a pretty fun game 'cause you walk around and you open up drawers and you shoot these little guys and they wad up your gun and your gun gets more powerful to where at the beginning of the level where you can only move like a book. By the end of it, you're like throwing shelves and beds across the thing, trying to find more of the guys and turning shit on, turning on TV sets and toy cars and stuff. And it's a fun game and there's two player. You can play, my girlfriend and I tried playing it last night and it's fun. But like is the controller, is that like a novelty or is it gonna stick? It's great. It's great. I mean, you can't compare it to a PS3 or an Xbox 'cause that's like a handheld controller. I started going for pro and baseball and it's fluid. Do you have the little vibrator module for it? Yeah, yeah. I sit on it. No. It's built in. It's built in. No, I mean like the little dildo with the cable where you connect. Oh, the Nunchug? Yeah, I got two of those. You have to, for some games, like Zelda, you have to have it. This game, you have to have it. Majority of games, you have to have it. I think with that control, the potential for interactive porn is so great. That's the first thing I thought when I saw the Wii, I was like, it's on. [LAUGHS] I mean, literally, we're a couple blocks away. The Wii is over there. We can go play it after this game or after this show. Do you have a-- You appear there? Yeah. Cool. The great thing about it is if you're going to play online with friends as a community, you've got to go with the PS3 or the Xbox Live because the online community is really strong. But as far as having your friends all in a room, like you're like, you would if you're watching a football game, the Wii is the way to go. Because you're yelling at each other and you're talking trash in-person and it's physical. I saw a new story that day on a dude who lost nine pounds playing a Wii, just doing Wii sports. And it was a new story on TV. And they showed up before and after picture. And eating Subway subs or something. They showed up before and after picture. And they were set up the exact same. And I was like, wait. This motherfucker went into this wanting to lose weight and get famous for losing weight playing a Wii because he took the exact same before picture as the after picture. And I was like, well, a little bastard. Do what I do, get a podcast, work for it weekly. Kudos to you, man. That's the way to lose weight. Just sitting in a chair doing a podcast, drinking Coke. That's right. That's right. We're sponsored and I can't even say that. But those are the games that played-- yeah, definitely get a Wii. If you've got a PS3, it was a PS3 holding up, all right? I think the PS3 is pretty bitching. What do you plan on? I only got two games. I got Resistance and Tony Hawk. What are those games like? Because I don't know anything about Resistance. Tony Hawk, I understand. I like Tony Hawk when a lot. Resistance is good. It's just shooting big aliens. And how does it compare to some of the older games like Wolf and Stein or Doom or some of those games that you played on the computer? Remember those games? Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, the thing about the PS3, it's all about the graphics. So it's like, I don't think the games have really caught up to the system yet. It's going to take six months to a year before you start seeing games that really optimize that machine, because the machine is like unbelievable. What if some of them are unbelievable? If you guys could get some game franchises to adapt, what would be on the wish list? Can you guys even see it? Well, we already talked about postal. Well, is an arcade game? Cupid? Buck Hunter? Yes. Yes. Buck Hunter would be a badass redneck movie, man. We're thinking about that one. Yeah, the Bucks bag bag. No, we want to adapt. We want to adapt as those machines that they have in the bars. You know, those, like, trivia machines. We want to turn that into a movie. The ones we're, like, revealing the naked chick. Yeah, yeah. If you start getting stuff right, you can match the differences. Yeah, it's going to be bar trivia machine, the movie. One day, there will be a day-- one day, you'll be able to sit in a theater and have those kind of experiences communally, you know, where you interact with the screen, or everybody does, you know? And that is one big cinema orgasm. You know, and then the porn theater will come back. Yeah, I mean, look, something needs to happen because, like, traditional movies are boring. In all seriousness, you know, it's like, you joke, but, like, it is going to happen like that because, like, something needs to change. I think there will come a day when the screens in your house are getting so good, and there's so much content online that's back and forth with TV that one day, people will sit down in front of the television to watch a film and have an interactive experience online with someone else watching that film, you know? There it is, plasma beams. One day, you know. But it's like I said, I mean, it's already to the point where, as a filmmaker, you know, like, or a movie maker, like-- Movies, well, filmmaker-- Even being, like, like a visual snob for our own movie-- When you learn to cry, you will make a film. [LAUGHTER] But I mean, you know, and I already said it, it's like the experience of watching-- like, I would rather have somebody watch it on Blu-ray than in the theater. Like, they're seeing a better image. I'm sorry, I got a regular DVD coming. Yeah, they're seeing a better picture, better sound better. I mean, I hate to say that because I want people to go to the movies, but I mean, it's just better. Until theaters change, which they are. To become interactive. Yeah. Or, you know, digital, 3D, et cetera, et cetera. Do you guys see Monster House? That was a great 3D experience. Yeah, it was so good. It was really good 3D. So good. Up for Best Animated Film. I hope it was. I think it should win. I hope it wins. What else is it up against? Well, I'll pick, you know, Pixar. It's up until we go against Pixar and-- But Monster House is pretty special. And something else. It's a cool movie. Well, you guys have been awesome on the show. We know. Anything else you want to plug besides this? You're ass with a Wii controller? We're here with that. We're going to go do that right now. Thanks for being on the show, guys. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. Thanks for making our really fun movie, you know? I hope everybody goes out and checks it out. Or if not, buys it on Blu-ray. Of course. Thanks a lot, guys. We'll be back next week with a review of The Hitcher by Dave Myers. There it is. Yeah.