Geekscape

Geekscape 2: My Old Room Smells Like Geek

Guest Co-hosts this week: Mark Wensel and Sean Neil - Reviews: Rocky Balboa and Black Christmas, We talk about the latest geek trailers: Fantastic Four 2, Grindhouse and Transformers. Are they making Real Genius 2 and why?!? You should be reading Dark Horse Comic's Conan series! And we ask Sean what it's like being a MMORPG Mod for City of Heroes! PLUS: Our best of 2006 Lists!! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:: 55m
Broadcast on:: 02 Jan 2007
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Go to your happy place for a happy price. Go to your happy price, Priceline. What's up, guys? We're in Austin, Texas at my house. And before we start off the episode, I want to show you guys some of my geek cred by showing you my bedroom from high school, which I told my parents not to change once I left Austin. So it's been exactly like this for the last 10 years. Let's go inside. A couple of the posters have started to fall down. There, you start to see the Star Wars stuff. You know, let me just close the door here for you guys. A lot of Star Wars, Spider-Man watch. You guys have basketball posters, some punk rock flyers, and a lot of jazz stuff. And Spider-Man pillow. Maybe the geekiest thing in here is the George Clooney picture. I don't even know why that's there. Geekiest or gayest? Probably gayest. Remember Mujibar and Sirajal from Dave Letterman? My dad got that signed by Sirajal on Times Square because I was such a big Dave Letterman fan. Behind these CDs, you're going to see stacks of boxes of comic books. Porn. All comics. Porn. Or porn. Here's a collage that I made. You're going to have Dave on there. Rancid. Green day. If you would make that collage today, would you still have Dave Letterman on it? No, I probably have conned it on Andrew John Stewart. But this is 1996, so Dave Letterman's on it. Right outside my room, there's the bookshelf. You've got a couple graphic novels that I didn't take with me. You've got Dragon Lance. I read all of them. Some Pierce Anthony novels. Love Pierce Anthony novels. Love Dragon Lance. David Letterman biography. Here are some old video games, look. Original link commander. Dave the tentacle. Sequel to maniac mansion. Watch this one. Ready? This one's old. Gun ship. Every kid who plays basketball gets one of these regardless of how well they do. As evidenced by the fact that I sucked and I still got one of these trophies. It looks like it goes on the top of another trophy. Another David Letterman book. I have about four David Letterman books. Remember this? Earth 2? Yeah, I even really like two novels. You remember this TV series Earth 2? I read the novels. Why not read the Stargate adaptation while we're at it? Old Wing Commander book. This is interesting reading as you're getting your ass beat. Wing Commander novels. I mean, he banned this for you guys. How dare you make fun of me for what I'm reading. Graham's in the middle of the Halo novel and I made fun of him for picking one up in the airport. But here we have proof that I was geekier than him long before him as I was reading the Wing Commander novelizations. And as Paul and I were 15 feet away making fun of him. Thanks. Let's see what's in some of these old drawers. Oh, I have it. That's fly out. I haven't opened these drawers in probably seven years. Back before Lucas took my dreams and destroyed them, I would wear this. You never wore it though. I obviously never wore it because it still got the tag. But I wore this one a whole lot. You got the Stockton to Malone. Ewok Pez dispenser. This is the jewel of my collection right here. I found some old PC games. We've got TIE Fighter versus X-Wing expansion. But here's the one that I love the most. Monkey Island. Right here. Graham and I's relationship was formed by me giving Graham Monkey Island tips because I had already beaten the game. Graham was hanging on my puttails. Whoever can answer this one gets a copy of this game. You mean that copy of that game? Whoever can answer this geek question explained to me the significance of Razzle Dazzle Root Beer. There's your challenge. Let's go do our episode. What's up guys? Welcome to episode two of GeekScape. I'm here with my buddy Marc Wenzel and the Sean Neal. We're in Sean's house and Marc, what's your background with me? I worked with you for far too long at Blockbuster or Cockbuster. Whatever you want to call it. Yeah, Marc was my manager at Blockbuster. That's how I know Marc. In Sean, past the mic to Sean. Past that mic. Yeah, so how do we know each other, Sean? I used to play in a band called Dynamite Boy and you were a Psycho fan. Dynamite Boy, while they were around, were my favorite band. While they were around, what does that mean? Oh, all right, well, you guys broke up? Well, it doesn't matter. We're still your favorite band. Okay, got it, got it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The thing is, I have respect for you as a musician, but also you and I kind of bonded over our love of Star Wars. And bonded over our love to disagree about other Star Wars. Yeah, the original, the new trilogy. Yeah, yeah. Because you love the new trilogy. For the most part, yeah. I can see the error of my ways a little bit now. Right, but I just hate them. You abhor them, yeah. You know, and every time a new one would come out, people would say, "Oh, this one is awesome." And it wasn't true to me. You know, because you had the first one, Phantom Menace, and then when the second one started rolling around, people were like, people would see it were like, "Holy shit, no. This makes up for Phantom Menace." And you watch it and you're like, "No, this makes Phantom Menace worse, but it's still not good." And then the third one comes out and people are like, "Dude, it's so dark. It's awesome." And you watch it and you're like, "Oh, I wish it was completely dark." And they never even started the film, you know? Yeah, wow. But you're adamant. I mean, you have tattoo. I'm tattooed. I got Boba Fett. I got Darth Maul on me. Yeah, you're for real. I'm all about it. You know, there's a display case with tons of Star Wars stuff. There's display cases. I got boxes of Star Wars stuff. Just say Sean abused his temper, his job at Toys R Us. Yes, I did. You know, and you did get me that giant-ass Spider-Man display poster, which I still have in my room. And then after you mailed it to me, you brought it out on tour with you, and I met you in- That's right. In LA. In LA. And you gave it to me. Yeah. And as soon as we had left, after you guys got back to Austin, your manager came at you and was like, "Dude, where's that display?" Yeah. I got to put it back. You're not supposed to be giving that shit. Yeah, that wasn't supposed to go out yet. It was supposed to get hung in like two weeks. I just thought it had come and gone and we weren't going to hang it, but- Right. You got it. I got it. You got it. You rock. And that adds geek points. So Mark, you and I, working together. What was the probably the worst thing about working a blockbuster with me, maybe? Besides you? Besides me. Oh. Just the constant barrage of idiots coming in. Is it like that seeing clerks where somebody's like, "Ooh, Navy SEALs." Yeah. Every single person who comes into blockbusters like that. Well, even when I went into blockbusters, I turned into that and I hated it. You're- I mean, I was thinking about it today, and I was thinking about our friendship, how long we've known each other. And you were kind of like my first film teacher, you know what I mean? Because it wasn't until I'd gone to college the next year that I started really getting into movies. But you were always pushing stuff off on me that was really obscure to me at the time. You know, like who the fuck loves the Marx Brothers comedy? It's like, who watches that shit? Mark does. And you like it. That's me. Can you explain to me that stuff? Like, slipping on a banana peel. Right. They never slipped on a banana peel. So, up here. If you ever ask yourselves who watches that shit in reference to the Marx Brothers, you love it. Yes, I do. And you'll defend it. Yes, I will. So we watched a couple of movies this week. The first one that we watched, all three of us watched the new Rocky movie from Sylvester Stallone. You wrote and directed it. Rocky Balboa. And this is the one that he wrote and directed. And it takes place- That's the only one. Well, what else did he- He wrote and directed a question? No, he wrote all of them. He directed two, three, and four. And then this one. And this- This one makes this one even more when accomplished. So, let's talk about how we liked this movie or disliked this movie. Go ahead, Sean. What did you think of this movie? I thought it was absolutely amazing. Right. I was actually joined in the bathroom in Sean's house. And I hear him in the living room being like, "Oh, the new Rocky? It's fucking awesome." And I was like, "How appropriate that I'm taking a dump right now?" So that's what I thought. So when it first started, the first thing I thought about it was like, I felt like I was watching the original Rocky movie all over. When it started off, had the same feel. It started off kind of on a down note. Found out that Adrian was dead. Yeah, you learned that really early in the movie. Let's not spoil stuff in the movie. No, no, no. But yeah, you find out in the opening scene of the movie that some time has passed. I thought it was really believable. As odd as it sounds on the way to the theater to go see it, because I actually paid to go see that. I'm a big proponent of movie piracy. But for this particular film-- Yes, or a listener. I actually-- A few more listeners are into it. I actually-- Well, as long as Hollywood keeps putting out movies like The Dukes of Hazard, I will continue to steal movies. I won't have my money pay for that shit. So-- So you're on the way to the theater? I'm on the way to the theater. And all I could think about was like, like, I'm going to see Rocky. Like, it's kind of weird. Like, you know-- In a good or bad way, do you think? Kind of in a bad way. I kept thinking like, how is this going to be believable? Like, I mean, this is a 60-year-old guy that's going to go box some late 20s, early 30s heavyweight champion. Like, this isn't even going to be believable. And somehow, in the movie, they pull it off to where you're like, in the movie, they actually address the fact that it's not a believable situation. Right. I mean, there is only one fight in the movie, and if there had been any others that would have made it unbelievable, because there's only so much wear and tear the guy can take. And the last fight is-- And the only fight is the one positive for me in this movie. I love watching it. And that's really what I loved about the Rocky movies, other than the first one, because the first one didn't have a great story. You kind of watch it for the villains, after a while. Graham has decided that audio is not important to the show, because he's gone to sit down. Vijay would never sit down and take off his headphones, in case there was a problem, Graham. And you know what that means? It's not an only V. Oh, man. Vijay, Graham is doing your job right now, and let me tell you, he has put down his headphones. It's sat down on a couch. He's doing a knock-up job. No dedication whatsoever. I'm actually worried about the audio now. Put on the headphones, Graham. Well, Brent, Brent can put on the headphones. Brent, Brent, put on the headphones. Does Brent want to put on the headphones? Brent, one of our listeners, is in the house. And he's dedicated. Yeah. Graham's shaded. All right. So the thing is-- You're watching for the villains, you were saying? I'm watching for the villains, stuff like that. But Sylvester Sloan wrote and directed this one. And there are a lot of monologues in this movie that he gives himself. Yeah. And my big thing was, yes, Adrian's dead. And we had that really nicely shot scene in the graveyard, where he's at a grave. But then the character starts revisiting the places that were important to him in their relationship. Yeah. And drags poor Polly through it. Right. And I started feeling it Polly, where he's like, enough already. Yeah. Because I feel like that was the same note over and over again. But we're already with him. We're already with him. We already do miss her. I thought that the idea there, though, was more to not really explain Rocky's point on it, was to show that Polly, because throughout the entire original series, you never really heard Polly ever express any, regrets for the way he ever treated her. And there's that one end part there, where he's standing where the ice rink used to be. And he gives his little thing like, you were good to her, but I was bad to her. And I don't want to live through this anymore. And that was one thing about the monologues, was that I feel like there were about six or seven of them. And they really only needed those. And they were kind of long, and they really only needed those, one or two really poignant lines to get, because the best monologue to me was one where his son says, why are you doing this again? And he stops him from the street, and he turns around and tells his son, this is why, and if you want to get out from under my shadow, this is the man you have to become. And it's a good monologue in a very, it would have been better in a short dose. There's like two lines in there that I felt like, wow, this is what this is about. Yeah. But it's, but I felt like it was coded in his overriding. I felt like a lot of it was overwritten. There were some scenes. And I just wanted to get to the fight. Yeah, some of the earlier scenes, I thought there was a little overacting, even on his part, where he's leaning against the inside of the door, and doing the, they overdubbed the shot of the original shot of Talia Shire, standing at the bottom of the stairs. And that's where I feel like it starts to become a weird. That was kind of weird. Yeah, that was kind of weird. How about yourself, Mark? You want to go a couple rounds with Sean Neal? I'll give you mine. I'll give you mine. Yeah, I did. I see what I'm gonna do. I saw it coming from a different place because- Your boxer professionally. Yeah. Yeah. Still am. Could beat your ass. Well, that's another question. Now, and now that you've said I was your first film teacher, I feel like a real poser saying this, I had never seen any Rocky movie before I saw it. Really? Really? Really? Not a single one of them. I'd seen bits and pieces of three and four because that's all they ever show on TV. But I had never seen a whole Rocky movie. But after seeing, I saw Rocky Babo at Butnamathon. Was this the first Rocky movie that you saw? Yeah. Okay. So I saw it, and then I went back and watched all five of them. And yes, for those of you out there who have never seen all of them, five is terrible. But so is four. Sorry. Four is terrible for the best reasons, you know, because- If you like- It's so ridiculous in that movie. If you like Sylvester Stallone and sci-fi movies, yeah, it's terrible. And it had the best Cockrock score. Number four was great. It had James Brown. It was on fire? It had hearts on fire. It had James Brown. That was the high point. But you enjoyed it. What about it? Well- Do you enjoy besides the fact that you'd never seen one before? After watching all of them, I think it's on par with the second one. Not the first. Not the first. The first, you know, first is- A film. Yeah, it's amazing. Second one is still really good. And the sixth one is really good. It's a good way to cap off the series. It's like taking five and just erasing it and saying this is how we really want to end this saga. Right. You know. Yeah. Did you cry? No, I didn't cry. Did you cry, Sean? I don't think I did. I think it was one part when he was telling the story to Polly about the beast inside of him or whatever, the whole thing inside. I thought that was pretty- Because you have that. I have a beast inside me. Okay. Just wait until the show's over to do the beast. Um. We've all had a little beast inside us. So, so I- So, don't make- Don't make promises, buddy. So, I live with a beast as my younger brother Paul. And he's always dragging us, like Graham and I to these fucking god-awful horror movies. Like when he was in LA with some of his wrestling friends, we went to see the new Texas Chainsaw. And Paul and I go to see these movies just to laugh and- and yell out loud and pretty much turn into like a mystery's hands through theater, 3000 type thing. And, uh, the other night he took us to see Black Christmas. The remake of the '70s film where you have a sorority and somebody starts picking them- all the sorority sisters off on Christmas Eve. And, uh, I was like, "Dude, why the fuck did we see that movie?" And I have a good excuse because I went with Paul and there's nothing I love more than sitting in a theater with Paul and Graham making fun of shit and laughing. What shocked me was when I asked Mark to guest host on the show and he said that he had seen it because you have no fucking excuse for seeing this movie. And I'm surprised you actually haven't seen this movie shot because you love horror movies as bad as they can get. I mean, you really turned me on to the Rob Zombie movies because I remember you called me when- I called the theater. When you left the theater and you said, "It's fucking amazing." And I was like, "Yeah, right, whatever. I'm never gonna see this movie." And then when I actually saw it a couple of years later, I was totally- No, that was when I saw House 1000 Corps. I was calling him rest of the theater. Well, you called me when you left the theater the third time, I think. But give the mic to Mark here. Why did you go see this Black Christmas movie? Okay, apparently you don't know this about me. I love terrible horror movies, too. Okay. Do you go with your friends to yell and joke around? Or are you just a creepy old man? Do we have a love connection? I think so. I'm making sure. I'm also singing to you. I did it at a bar buster, you know? It's okay, it's closing time. You know, you're in this inventory? Your editions of Barbara Streisand's songs were amazing, but yeah. Now, I like House 1000 Corpses, too. I was the only person I know besides you two who actually liked it. There were people who saw it about Namathon and wanted to leave the entire thing, just leave in the middle. You've been going to those Anacol but Namathons every year? Not every year, but the past four, I think. Are you fucking Harry Knowles? No. Brent, you haven't gone in once, you've tried every time? You got to fuck Harry Knowles. Well, if that's what you want to do. Well, I would rather just be like, "Dude, I ain't having sex with that guy. I will wait and watch these movies when they release." I have a friend who's a friend of his. He's fucking a friend of a friend. Well, her husband would be a little bit annoyed with that, I think. Well, I think. Not when you wear the donkey suit. So, you love this movie, what did you think of it? Love which movie? No, I mean, you love horror movies, you went to see this thing. I thought it was crap. It's terrible. Yeah, it's really bad. It's terrible. It did have some-- It's almost terrible for all the right reasons. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's almost great. It's a fine line. It's a fine line to dance, though, for to have a horror movie that it has to be-- it has to go across line. Otherwise, it's just a bad movie. No, I've kind of coined what we do, where we take-- and it happened in college when my roommate Kevin and I-- you've met Kevin McCaffrey. We make her the best cock-rock mixes in history. You still have money, I thought, right? And so, whenever they close a blockbuster or a video store in Philadelphia going to college, we would take a bunch of money and just blow it all on their crap VHS section, come home and spend the night seeing who got the worst movie that made us laugh the hardest. And we turned it into the gauntlet, where you run the gauntlet. And it's really like a test of endurance. And what are some of your favorite gauntlet-type movies in the horror genre? Because you really are a connoisseur, aren't you, buddy? Give them a like, let's see this. Jack Frost is a good one. That'll run, that'll run, that'll run just about anybody out of a room. The best part of, and the best part, I did not see the second one because the first one did me in, but I didn't see how they could top the scene with the melting snowman and the carrot and the bathtub with the naked girl, where it's obvious that she was being pleasured by the carrot nose. There could not be topped. One next channel, Elizabeth. I think it was, actually, yeah, there you go. What happened to her career? You've been spending some time on MrSkin.com, haven't you? Next to it, when you're done fucking here. I don't know. I have a bunch of them up on my shelf over there. I can't think, I don't know. Gauntlet movies I make people watch. Oh, Motel Hell. Sounds great. Motel Hell, you never saw Motel Hell? No, it's a classic. You gotta run a gauntlet. It's a classic. The fours of the movies. It's about people get made into sausages by Redneck farmers. It's amazing. I have another one up there called Mother's Day, which is a classic, another classic film. For Brendan, he's recommending don't go in the house. Yeah, so, yeah, these are movies that if I want to clear a room, if I want to kill a party, those are the ones to put on, people are just like, what the fuck is this? It's the greatest movie ever made to sit back and watch. And then they all eventually go home. I gotta go home. I gotta go to work in 12 hours. And I gotta go home. Graham actually was successful in finding it on eBay. It's called Death Run to Istanbul. And when I tore my knee up, I was in bed for a couple days. And Paul brought me Death Run to Istanbul, which I swear to God was filmed on a VHS camera. There's a fight scene. And I know the median in Los Angeles that they shot the fight scene on. He brought me never too young to die with John Stamos and Gene Simmons. That one's incredible. That is a perfect gauntlet movie. And Wizards of the Lost Kingdom with Bose Benson. I've never seen that one. Oh, we gotta run a gauntlet. Run a gauntlet. But Thunder Warrior is a good one that Graham found in a VHS store. So, you guys recommend Rocky. I recommend Rocky. I gotta say it's a rental. The first two thirds of the movie just drag from me. But that last fight scene I'm in love with. I just love watching Boston. People that I work with that are actually, I expected to hate the movie. We went and saw it together at lunch. And I really expected them to really hate it. And they came out of it like, wow, that was, I can't believe it was over so quickly. And I was, I actually kind of thought, like, nah, it was like an hour and 40 minutes. It kind of dragged for me a little bit. The last fight scene is like 30 minutes. So it's like a good portion of the movie. I just thought, it kind of dragged for me. But they were like, oh, it was so fast and it was so good. Now, I just really wasn't expecting that from them. But I would suggest going and seeing in the theater. So, I got some news. - A second bet. - Oh, you ready for some news? - I need some news. - You know what? I would cut to the news, but I just remember that we have like three geek trailers that came out this fucking week. Like in the last week since we did the last show. Serious, we got to talk about this shit. Well, I went to see now that the museum that I'll review next week. Don't look at me like that. And you kind of want to see it. - You need to download a movie. - So listen, they showed the preview to this Fantastic Four thing. And it's more like a short film than it is like a trailer. Did you see this thing? - I only saw it online. I didn't actually see the theater. - So what did you, I mean, it starts out with the wedding of the visible of it, Mr. Fantastic. - Start off looking exactly like I thought it would like. - The second, like the movie. - Yeah, like all my children or something. - Right. - It really was like, here we go, crappy foam suit, check. Jessica out looking confused. - The silver, yeah, she's like, act, how? - But yeah, and then cheesy shitty line by kid playing Johnny, check. And then it went into the silver surfer. And I have to say, I was, I don't have any hope for the movie. I know they're going to fuck it up. But I will probably download it so I can see the amazing effects because the surfer looked really awesome. I thought he looked really amazing. The power cosmic flying through the building, bending underneath the board. The whole thing looked really good to me. I thought it looked really awesome. Other than that, nothing redeemable about it. I'm sure they'll fuck up the whole storyline. I doubt Galactus is even going to be in the movie at all. - Maybe I'll just come over and we can watch it. - Yeah, that's what we should do. I've got to project it. - Do you want you to project them from your computer on to the screen? That's the way to do it. - Yeah, so I still get to see them on a movie there. - That's the one thing about piracy. I'm like, I can't watch anything for a long period of time on my screen. 'Cause the email's like right there. - Oh, no, no, no, no. - You've got to put in distractions and stuff like that. - It's too small anyway, yeah. - But you project it. That's the way to do it. - No, yeah, my projector, I can hook up my computer and my projector. - What's fun is that one night that we came over and we did the Mario Kart tournaments on the projector screen, that really is the way to do the kart. - It is, and the Wii looks amazing on it, too. - Dude, if bowling on the Wii is pretty awesome. On the 10 foot screen. - So it's like being in a real bowling alley. - It really is. It's almost like going to a real bowling alley. And you get just as tired, but it's awesome because it's on a video game instead of being in real life. Why does it make any sense? (laughing) So it doesn't make any sense at all. Why don't we just go bowling? So we also got a trailer for Grindhouse. - Sweet, sweet. - I've been seeing stuff from this for six months now. It seems like I'm ready for it. - I was going to drop a little muse on you, too. I don't know if you heard about this, but one of the, you know, they're filming the trailers in between the two films. Rob Zombie just released the information about the trailer he's doing for it, which is going to be called "Wear Wolf Women of the SS." (laughing) - That sounds perfect. - I'm not joking. I'm not joking, that's really it. - That sounds like just right up here. - Eli Ross is doing this is awesome. - They're doing, they got a bunch of famous directors doing that. - I didn't know that. - The trailers in between the two movies, they're going to have a bunch of Grindhouse-style trailers. - Because they have the one for machete. - Right. - Perfect. - By the way. - I've heard that there's going to be a machete movie, full-length, everything blowing up. - I would say that if this film does as good as I'm pretty sure it's going to do anyway, that they will probably go back and make a few of the trailers into movies. - Yeah, it'd be cool to see a series start up with something like this. There hasn't been any kind of like, cool series movies like that. Like if they were taken from Dustle Dawn and turned it into a series of films instead of- - Even a comic book, right. - A person like that would have been awesome, you know? And I would actually be more excited for a machete movie than the ones that are actually in the film, you know what I mean? Because I just love them. - Right. - Just the look of Danny Trejo jumping on a motorcycle, you know, you got to watch that. - And the fact that this is an ultra, yeah, this is an ultra hard-rated movie coming from a character from a kids movie. - Oh, is that the character? He's- - Yeah. - Same name and everything? - Yeah. - Wow. - Uncle machete. (laughing) - Mark and I went to see Spy Kids together in the theater with wearing our trench coats. So the third thing we've got to talk about is that Michael Bay Transformers teaser that came out. I thought he was ready to go. Bullshit. What are your thoughts on this? - Uh, go ahead and say it. Because now we're actually seeing the Transformers. You know, like it's not like the teaser. We're actually seeing the robots. - Yeah, and still bullshit. I call it. - I wish it was called the Go-Bots. - Yeah. - And then he's doing this thing that he does for the movies that he produces, the Saturn films that he produces, the horror movies like Texas Chainsaws remake and some of that where they- - Where they used that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And they cut to like images with this really annoying repeating sound. Kind of like my voice. But it drives me crazy. - It worked for the first Texas Chainsaw Massacre. - Right. - But yeah. - The Flash Bowl. - And he's doing it. - Doing it and doing it and I'm, it's over. - Especially with this movie. Because, you know what, I would have been okay if this movie was a PG. Because it's a cartoon. I'm okay with them doing it. - We are. - It looks like at least a PG-13. You know what I mean? Because they're treating it so realistically that it looks like it's just going to take the fun out of it. You know what I mean? And it's just not- - You can destroy as many robots as you want. It could be a G-rated movie. But as soon as they get the people involved, it's when the rating will go up. - But Graham just hooked me up with the 20th anniversary DVD. - Uh huh. - Which is a movie. Do you have that? - I have the, no, I have the OG version. - Right. - Right. - I don't dance on that shit. - Because he just got me this new one for Christmas. And I can't wait to break into it. Is it good, Brent? - I really- - Brent does not fuck around. If you guys see Brent on the geekscape.net bulletin boards coming up, get out of his fucking way. Brent's for real. - My personal opinion on the Transformers trailer is, I don't even know if I'm going to download it. - Whoa. - I don't even know if I'm going to take it for free. - Sean. - I really don't, I don't see anything about it that I like at all. - Just out of curiosity. I'm going to see it in the theater. Just out of curiosity. - I'll probably get your opinion on it before I go see it, then. - I probably will too, unfortunately. - You'll see it in the theater. - Yeah, probably. I'd be grudgingly say that, because I think the only saving grace of the movie is probably going to be Shia LaBeouf. - Oh, and that stroke in that stroke shirt from 2002? I'm like, oh, way to be hip with it, Mr. Bay. Great. - Don't date your film. - Yeah. It was like, great. Where's the poison shirt? So anything you're wearing. - He's going to throw a little Britney. He spears on top of it. - Yeah. So for now the trailer, but movie news, speaking of like, stuff that we may or may not ever see, George Lucas today just said, there's going to be, Indiana Jones just filming this year, 2007. - I know. I also hear that George Lucas earned down the original script idea, which sounded actually kind of cool. - What was it? - Spielberg was really jazzed on it. Everybody was really jazzed on it. It was based on taking him into Roswell and kind of making, tying into like this alien connection and kind of bringing in a different aspect. - It's cool about that. - Well, just the idea of it just not being about, oh, he's, you know, he's going to go find something else about the Bible. - Well, he could be. - I mean, maybe it's debunking the DaVinci Code. I don't know. - Or, you know, it could be aliens throughout the Bible. - Yeah, or something like that. - Anyway, the whole idea of the story of them going into, you know, bringing into Roswell kind of takes him into the 50s, you know. - Oh, you know what? If they're doing that with that backdrop, it could actually work really well. - It could actually be kind of cool. But apparently Lucas saw it and scratched, scrapped the whole thing. Said, I don't like any of it. It's all crap. And apparently him and Spielberg had some words about it. - I heard Lucas doesn't like putting aliens in movies. Um, one thing that I read as well. - He said don't think so. - Is speaking of sequels that probably don't have to happen. Val Kilmer said he wants to do real genius too. Our listener, Jeff, what happened? submitted this news. - What's going on about Kilmer's career that he used to do real genius too? - Did you guys see the really good one that he did with Robert Downey Jr. - This is his bang bang. It was freaking awesome. - His his bang bang is awesome. Go download it. - Yeah. Immediately. Check the news groups right now. - Go rent that one because it needs money. - Yeah. - Shane Black needs to make more movies. - Yeah. Dude, I don't think Shane Black needs more cash. He's one of the dudes who like in the early 90s was selling screenplays for like four grand. But when screenwriting was like really overblown. They were just paying way too much for scripts for like long kiss good night. I think it was one of his. But I like that. - Hey, hit the door. Oh wait. - Oh. I think somebody just broke into your house. They're stealing Sean's things. So hey guys. How's it going? Sean's going to go out here. But real genius too. - Yeah, I don't. - Where can you go? - This need to happen. - I'm being invaded by children. - I love it. After the popcorn. - He can't be anywhere near you. - What are you talking about? I'm about to have kids. He's not allowed to be around kids. - So Sean, you're going to name your kid after me. - You're order? - You're going to name your kid after me? - No. - Okay. Never mind. - I'm going to name him after. I don't know. Okay. I always going to give you something really cool. But I don't have anything cool. - No. - We're still in this guy. - Like real genius too. - Those talks are still way I was still in this guy too. What call him Chris after real genius? - Or Vow. - Or Vow. - So bad. Lazlo. - That's why I thought maybe if you played Lazlo, like a new version of Lazlo, it might work. I don't know. - I'm the greatest swordsman that's ever lived. - Dig up the kid and the girl again, and you think? - What happened to that? - Guys, I don't even remember real genius. I saw once I remember the popcorn at the end. - I see. - That's the best soundtrack ever. - Everybody wants to rule the world. - I know it's the movie. It's like perpetual pop TNT. That's all I know. - How can you not live a movie that has a house full of popcorn? - Pop my elaser. - Yeah. - Pop my elaser, right? - A military laser. Hey, speaking of lasers, I don't know how to go up. I saw a thing today. My friend sent me a thing from howstuffworks.com about how some guys in New Jersey and a laboratory figured out how to send a light source at 300 times the speed of light through a tank that had been sealed with cesium gas. And when it did, they said that it actually was able to exit the tank on the moment before it went through. So they actually got to see a moment in time. - Whoa. - Which destroys the theory of relativity. - Wait, I'll find it. I'll give it to you. - You're like bending my mind right now. - It's the craziest thing I've ever seen. - Anybody seen Deja Vu? - 300. No, but I have played fantasymogals.com And that was one of my movies. - I play Hollywood Stock Exchange. - Yeah, I play fantasymogals. - I'm gonna have to defeat you in this. - Your punk ass. - I will take you down. - I picked a row when I picked Tenacious D pick a destiny. That got me a lot of money. - Did you like that movie? - Yeah, you know, I've seen all the TV shows. I already knew it. - I loved it. - That was awesome. - I thought it was great, but I was already so familiar with all the material. It didn't, like nothing new. - So, yeah, let's just move on to what? - Anything else you want to hear about science stuff? - Look at that, okay. - This is geek, I know, this is geek stuff. - This is gross. - I'm talking about geeky shit. I'm talking about real geek shit. Like we're gonna make lasers and shit bounce off the walls. - I just can't wait for these guys to be monkeying around with this stuff. And all of a sudden the earth just ends. Nobody knows, but these two idiots in a garage know that they're the ones that did it. - Well, supposedly there was guys in France who were able to imitate the Big Bang inside of a giant collider. - And they said that one in one. It was like one in like a quadrillionth chance. - That was the Big Bang. - So, yeah. - If you believe in that kind of stuff, you know, unless you believe in that D&D module called The Bible. - So, Sean, are you reading books? Do you read the Star Wars comics? - I don't know how to read. - Get out of here. - No, I'm sorry. No, I haven't been reading Star Wars comics. I've been, the only comics I read this year and cheesy enough was the City of Heroes comics. That's all the only comics I was able to get my hands on. - Right. And we'll get to you, like, because you work for the company that does City of Heroes, City of Villains, some of that. But I kind of got out of the Star Wars comics that Dark Horse was producing, and then I found out that Star Wars Legacy, which takes place. It's one of the Skywalker's descendants, and maybe they're doing it in the books. Maybe you've heard of it as a Star Wars fan, but he becomes a bounty hunter. And he hunts down Kale Skywalker. - Yeah, yeah. - And Star Wars Legacy is following his story, and it's supposedly really good. I recommended it just off of hearing about his reputation to a listener of the show who won Star Wars comics. And he came back loving it. Dark Horse is doing really good with their licenses, and I wanted to say that the Conan book, if you guys have spent the last year, 2006, just kind of worn out by things like Civil War or '52, the big superhero crossovers, for the last two years, I think it may have been over two. I think two, three years, Dark Horse has been publishing the Conan books, and they had really good writers on it, Kurt Buzic, and Mike McNulla, who does Hellboy and Bureau of Paranormal Research and Development, which is a really good book. He had a stand on the book, but so the writers have come and gone, and they're redoing all of the Howard books, and they're adding in extra stories, but the star of the book, who doesn't get a whole lot of credit, is this artist, Carrie Nord, it looks awesome. So I wanted to talk about it just briefly to tell people that we're going to be a little short on the comic book section, but if you guys are looking for a comic book to read, that's not guys and tights and stuff like that. The Conan book by Dark Horse, it's because my half brother came into town, and he loves it. He loves like sword and sorcery stuff, so we spent some time in the bookstore trying to find the trades, you know. On the flip side of that, the age of Conan video game is a piece of shit. So, I mean, it's an MMO. In E3, I saw the artwork for it, and it was the Carrie Nord artwork from the comic that they're using to promote the video game. The artwork looks all right, and I'm curious since it's still in beta. The comic's great. The comic's really good. Sticky and not great looking, but no. It doesn't need to be an MMO, because you really only want to play as Conan. Exactly. Like, why would you make an MMO out of a game where you only want to be one guy, and everybody can't be that one guy, and in fact, nobody can be that one guy, because he'll already exist in the universe. What's the point? Exactly. They should name that game Watch Conan. Exactly. You know, Watch Conan. That's another movie they keep rumoring to do another version of. Only if Arnold would do it when I watch it. What? Only if Arnold would do it when I watch it. No, dude. It can't have it. He broke his leg skiing, you know. How believable would that be? How believable is the best just to learn to a Rocky Balbo when he's 60? Got pretty good right there. Boo, yeah. Have any of y'all listened to the commentary on any of the Conan movies? No, because. Yeah, he does the commentary, and he says, "I always thought we should do the second movie." Wait. Yeah. Does he not remember doing the story or? John Mealyis was like, "Wait. We did, Arnold." They just tricked them. I like doing these movies and halves. [laughter] The second one's terrible. Where they smash that mirror, they're being attacked by werewolves or something like that. That movie's terrible. Yeah, it's not even. It's just a giant Grace Jones joke. The first one's actually pretty good. Which one's one with the giant snake with the first one? Yeah. You know, it has the whole crumb speech and stuff. Who could even play Conan right now? The people say like the rock and stuff like that. Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds. Anybody ordered a pizza? Toby McGuire. I mean, who knows if he can even keep doing Spider-Man? You know, he looks like he's definitely aging. You know, I don't know if the venom-- Maybe he has one of those diseases. When they call him-- Or he's 35. Or he's 35. What's the disease? My age, and he looks younger than me. So, you know-- How old is he? He's 31-ish. Maybe something like that. Oh, I'm 31, and I know it's about the same age. Yeah, I would-- I think it maybe has that disease. The one that I show up more about. Projeria? Is that what it is? Projeria? Yeah. Little kids are like, "I don't know." So make fun of them, little hobbits. I was in the bathtub too long. That's not even right. That's beyond the value of not right. That's why I love hanging out with you, because I know I can bring it up and just kind of touch on the surface, and you'll definitely go beyond it. And I don't have to say anything. I apologize for my friendship. Projeria, the po-- Projeria. Or staying in the bathtub way too long. I just thought it was a po-vitch disease. Maybe our ratings are down. Kind of find support, little kids. Look like hobbits. So, so, so let's get into video games. Sean, you work for a video game manufacturer? Yes, I do. Where do you work? I work at a company called NCSoft. What do they do? It's a publisher. Oh, like, what do they publish? We do all online video games. Look, what is the multi-mod player? Like City of the City of Ellen's Guild Wars. Lineage. Lineage too. So a lot of those... It's all massively multiplayer online. I've never played this stuff, but you have some of the best stories. I tried talking and doing a movie about what I do, and then grandma's boy came out and I went there. That's pretty much what I do. At Elm, you actually police the game sometimes. Yeah. Is that your main job, police the game sometimes? Well, no, our main job is just supporting the game, usually supporting the game becomes playing policeman, investigating stuff, looking at when people... Anything. Well, when you ever get- I like how he's like- So, you went this way. He's the little guy flying around on the screen. What's kind of like that? The only difference is I just pull a giant chat log that looks like the Matrix and have to go through it and find what this number did this and said this at this time. Like, what are the things you look for? What can't you do online? You can't be racist. You can't try to steal your people's accounts. These are all things that happen. People make names for the characters- Hundreds of times of words. Right, right. Your mom's dirty vagina. Can't be in the game. Sorry. [Laughter] Filthy little m-bomb raper. Like, can't be in the game. And people get very confused as to why they can't do that. But, you know, you can't do stuff like that. It's like the real world, you know? But most, for the most part, yeah, that's what we do. We do that and help people when they find bugs in the game. They get stuck in the game. It's almost like you're playing a console game. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like playing a console game and you get stuck in the only difference. You can call something up and we can come in the game and move you or whatever. It's crazy, right? Actually, yeah, and actually as City of Heroes, they call them GM's Game Masters. They are actually the little police drone robot thing. Fire round. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Now, one thing that you told me that I didn't even know this happened, but people try and make real time, like, real currency off of video game items. It's actually a huge debate. Well, the government's actually getting involved in it now. It's like a copyright. Well, yeah, so anything that exists within the game is something that belongs to the game manufacturer. Obviously, it's, you know. But the problem is there are people who gather this stuff up and they sell it for real world money to other people who want to make their characters super high level or put all the cool gear on them without actually having to play through the hours and hours of grinding to do it. And it's against our rules. A lot of countries is against the law. Countries like Korea have huge problems with a lot of that stuff. And how do they sell it? They go on, like, eBay and they make one minute. They run websites. You can go to different sites. I'm not going to advertise their sites for them, but they're a huge problem. But now the government's getting involved in it. That's going to be like a criminal offense. Well, in some countries, in Korea, stuff it is. You will get your balls cut off. I think they do that there. In Korea, I think so. But our government's trying to get involved in it now, because somebody's making money. It gets bamboo shoots up his finger. Exactly. That's really smart. No! But our government's trying to get involved, because there's money to be made, and it's not taxed. Right. The stuff is taxed. So this is like a multi-billion dollar industry. That's not paying taxes to anybody on any other, because it's all virtual. So in the next few years, I'm sure we'll see. I hear about companies or games like that, where people, now they're putting in debit cards and something that you can actually go to ATMs and pull money out of, and how there's actual heists that happen in some games. Like, people pull heists, and there's nothing a lot of people can do about it. It's insane. It's like, Ocean's 11 going on in video games. The problem is that people don't realize that when they get into those games, even though it's a virtual world, real world rules still apply. You don't walk up to the guy in the street corner and hand him $100 and say, "Hey, I'm going to come back in a little while." And when I do, I want you to show me that 100 bucks, because I want to see what it looks like on you. Right. Right. Well, people do that in game all the time, and they get pissed off when the guy in the street corner takes their money and leaves and logs out of the game. Right. And they can't figure out, "Why would you do that?" It's common fucking sense, you know what I mean? Like, 99% of my job is going to be able to know, "Do you use common fucking sense, you idiot?" Most people are really the butt of all of our jokes, because they play these games. If you could sit for one day in the office and listen to this shit we talk about, some of the evil. And they just make ass and nine mistakes. Ridiculous stuff. They say the most ridiculous stuff. We have a guy who's threatening to sue us. Can you talk about this? Sure. He's not going to sue us because he's crazy, he's psychotic. But he says that he's disabled, and he's going to sue us for the Americans with Disabilities Act. Okay. Because he found a bug in the game and an exploit, and started telling people about it, and that's against the rules, and so he got his account shut down. So then he decided to- Say that you guys were- Say that we shut his account down, because he was an employee of our company, because he told us about a bug. He's not an employee of our company. Right. But because he's a player who found a bug, that makes him an employee, because he told us about it. So he's suing you on the Disabilities Act. And because he's disabled, for some reason, we shut his account down. That's his reasoning. Is it a mental responsibility? I want to write back to him today and tell him, "You know what? You are in the running for craziest motherfucker that's ever played our god." Because it makes no sense. Because what is the craziest thing you've seen? You've seen, maybe that? That's pretty crazy. We've seen people come in the office before and, you know, like, want to talk to us about stuff, but- Wow. And usually I just go out there and bulldog them off the door. Wow. Yeah. Well, um, let's segue. It's the 2007. 2006 is over. All right. Best of 2006. Now that it's behind us. Give me a best of, I'm going to tell you what it is. Okay. For movies for myself, I was kind of disappointed in music, but for movies, I have, like, five new movies that I love. Nacho Libre. Fucking loved it. That was good. Nacho Libre, the departed. Little Miss Sunshine. Pan's Labyrinth. And Stranger the Fiction. Never saw Stranger the Fiction. Maybe Monster House is at six, banging on the door, you know? But, oh, Stranger the Fiction, you'd love it. I had to see that. Really well done. But those are, like, my top five. I have a couple of those. I would say the departed definitely would be on my list. Superman Returns would be on my list. Right. Because I am a Superman fanboy. I definitely wouldn't put that on there. Little Miss Sunshine. I thought was amazing. Nacho Libre, I don't know if it'd be on my top movies of the year. It was funny. I was a little disappointed in it. I went and saw it on your, on your recommendation. You could see as a, as a, have a Hispanic kid with a restaurant in the family. Right, right. You know, it meant a lot. I thought it was funny. I, I didn't, like, walk. I wasn't crying. I thought Talladega Nights was a really funny movie. Mm-hmm. I thought that would, uh... Grandm would be funnier. Agreeze. Yeah. That was a little bit funnier movie. Especially the unrated DVD version that just came out. Or is coming out. I have a copy of it. I don't know if it's already out yet. I have a copy. I downloaded it. Like how you bust people online. And then you turn around and you do this shit. Like, oh, it's billions of dollars. The government's getting involved. Yeah, they're getting involved in piracy too. Yeah, well, you know. Fuck 'em. That's why, that's my, that's my reasoning. How can you argue with that? Mark? Uh, my, my top spot is taken by two movies. Because I can't decide. Yeah. Um, children are men. Okay. And, um, what the hell is the other one? Departure? No, no. Departure was number two. Okay. Or three, however... So it was number one. A. Um, science of sleep. Oh, okay. It's freaking love that movie. That's not most of like a really popular choice. No. I don't like the movie. I didn't love it, but... Uh, science of sleep, nobody saw. Because, you know, there's a bunch of idiots out there. But, I, I loved it. You know. Just connected with me. Uh, Pan's Labyrinth, I liked a lot. Who loved it? Yeah. And, um... I'd have liked it, but it was in Spanish. I can't like it. I can't read. What else you got? U.S. versus John Lennon. I liked a lot. Is that a documentary? Yeah. How is... I don't know anything about it other than the title. Hey, I'm a huge beetle freak. So, of course that's on my list, but it's a really good movie. I'll screw you guys. Oh, over Elvis? Okay. You're either one or the other. You know what I mean? I actually don't dig on Elvis. Very much at all, actually. But, uh, oh, in, in today's world, where our rights are being taken away from us every five minutes. Yeah, hippie. Yeah. U.S. versus John Lennon brought all of that up. And it's like, it's been going on for decades. You know, John Lennon was almost deported because he spoke his mind. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't even thought that. Um, hey, Brian, you want to take my seat? I'll check the tape and you give our fans, from a fan, his top 2006. Sit down, sit down. Now he's the guy on the left. All right. So, uh, I agree with you, Superman Returns. That was great, which is not necessarily a popular opinion, among people for some reason. I love the movie. Favorite movie of the year was departed. Like, I didn't have more fun watching a movie this year than in that one. Like, the whole movie was just, like, fantastic for me. If it says anything at all about that movie, my wife, who doesn't really like to watch movies very much, she usually falls asleep about halfway through them. Um, actually, when it was finished, she kind of turned and looked at me and was like, "I want to watch that again." Can we watch that again? If they were to repeat it in theater, I would've sat through it again. Yeah, I think I would've did. Because he has a bulge in his pants, the whole movie. We're talking to me. Oh, that's why. Okay, we're talking about departed now. Come on, go. Oh, but that's what we're talking about. Oh, but that's what we're talking about. You're a step behind. Oh, yeah, we're pretty hot, guys. All right, so anyway, so Superman, departed number one. Superman's probably number five. The fountain, another one, a lot of people didn't like. Like, really, really didn't like. And I was a big fan of it. Hands elaborate, definitely. And then the prestige, which Chris Nolan-- I didn't see that one either. I downloaded it. I wanted to see it. I wanted to make the next Batman movie. Oh, he made it. Oh, by his movie. Yeah, the prestige was awesome. So yeah, that's my five. And "Stranger Than Fiction" was so close to making the top five, but it got booted. Forgot one. I love Borat. That's another one. That's a point. It had a point. No, it was there. Oh, I'm saying. It made its point. Welcome to my show. It's him making out with guys for an hour and a half. Start with him. We'll run. Coming for you more. Yeah, I love Borat. I actually saw it twice. I don't do that very often. Right. I was super jazzed for it. It's one of those movies where you're so excited about it that when you see it, you can't help but be disappointed. Yeah. I was actually excited to see Talladega Nights because I knew the guy that plays Borat was in it as the Frenchman. Nice. That was the only reason I really originally wanted to see it. And then after that, I was like, hey, it was actually a funny movie. So, I still haven't seen Talladega Nights. Guys, go ahead and send me your best of 2006 list. It's Jonathan at geekscape.net. Thank you guys for being on the show. Thanks, Sean. Can I do a plug? Thanks, Mark. Yeah, do a plug. Thanks, Brent. I have a website. Oh, everybody does. Yeah, yeah. Nimble.com is not your site. Really? It's our site. proffwagstaff.com like professor shortened yeah prof wagstaff.com right what is that it's a marks brothers yeah so hopefully I don't get sued for it but no thanks for watching guys this episode two next week we'll be back in Los Angeles and yeah thanks for coming on the show guys keep checking on geeksk thanks for having us net oh no problem thanks Jonathan no problem guys no from I miss you guys wish you could come here and geek out every every week of the year you should I got a projector and downloaded movies yeah and a bunch of people knock on your door as of this episode they're all they're all legal backup copies right yeah exactly so you guys next week