Geekscape

Geekscape 1: Into The Geekscape

Guest Co-host: Friend and Spidey Superfan Ian Kerner - Reviews: Eragon and Pan's Labyrinth, News: Madman the movie announced! We talk Heroes! Comics: Ian suggests Fables and Jonathan visits a Geekscapist's comic shop in Seattle! Video Games: Jonathan beat Zelda: Twilight Princess! Geekscape! It's here to stay! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duration:: 1h 1m
Broadcast on:: 26 Dec 2006
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What y'all doing out there? Taking bribes. Proud of y'all. Abbott Elementary, the season premiere Wednesday, October 9th on ABC and stream on Hulu. The deer was lost. I'm not available to take your call because I'm dead inside. Lieutenant, this is the general. We have a situation. Your country needs you. Last time I checked, my country was doing just fine without me. Well the last time you checked, Santa Claus wasn't being held hostage by the Russians. Get my hovercraft ready. They say it's the season I'm giving. Well I don't have to give some pain. Hey what's up guys? Merry Christmas. This is a surprise I'm sure. This is the first episode of Geekscape. And I'm joined by my friend Ian Kerner. He's been a buddy of mine for how long? Two and a half? Three years? Yeah, coming out three years. Ian and I met when I was working a job as a delivery guy for a Fox production. A side by show. You were a PA. I was a PA, a post PA, and Ian worked in an office and I was walking past his office in the same building. And you had a Spider-Man 2 poster. It was right. It was like a month before the movie came out. Yep. I was the swinging poster between the skyscraper. It was very, very cool. It was very rare. Everyone was pulling them off of the bus station and managed to get one for somebody. So immediately we had a geek bond. For those of you guys who aren't fans of my old show and are finding us for the first time. This is Geekscape. We're going to talk about everything in the geek experience. But mainly movies, video games, and comics over the next 45 minutes to an hour if you can hang with us. We'll be bringing you the latest news and reviews. Kind of stuff that shapes your geek experience. Being a geek isn't easy. Right? Definitely not easy. How long have you been a geek? A whole life. In how old are you? I'm 36. Okay. So you're roughly 8 years old with me. And it's funny. We'll go on to movie reviews here in a little bit. But we're standing in line for the movie. And you started talking about how you gauge the age of people. Oh yeah. So bring your mic towards your mouth. You're rookie. This is my first time. This is his first time podcasting. Do I get the virgin treatment? I was going to throw popcorn or rice or anything happening. People may just be shutting off their items. So, pardon the record. You're not open up to know that. That's wrong people. I label that as a... So, how do you gauge people's age? Actually, the conversation was about dating women. Right. And the old way, because I was born in 1970. So it used to be, did she see Star Wars in the theater? The original Star Wars. Right. You know, not this, you know, prequel bullshit. Right. You know, a new whole fine, whatever. And then, of course, as the year went by, it became a vampire in the theater. Just the Jedi in the theater. And if your girls just kept getting younger as you got older. Oh, you know, you get old, of course. Of course. You know. It's like, did you see episode one in the theater? Well, eventually it was what she'd born yet. Right. And then it became, yeah, these days, it's not quite episode one in theater. But we're getting there. He's getting there. He's getting there. Yeah, that's a very geek way of like... Because just in knowing you, like the first couple of times meeting you, and this is the thing, you guys have seen episodes of the old show where we broadcast from Kat's comic book store. The only reason I get my comics there is because Ian. I used to get my comic somewhere else. And Ian thought me behind the ear and was like, dude, 30% off. You got to go where I go. Well, it's more than that, too. You know, you want to go to a store where they actually read the comics and have a passion for it and there's a good environment there. A lot of creators go there, which I think speaks a lot of the store. You know, it's a little bit of a community. Right. You know, I mean, discount matters, too. And that's why, you know, I mean, Golden Apple. Well, I've been in there. I've been in DJs and I'll be behind, I'll be behind, like, Jeff Loeb, who is a writer for comic books. He's also a writer on Lost and the writer on Heroes. And a consulting producer. And I'll be behind Alan Heidenberg. You know what I mean? Or Jeff Johns. Yeah. All those dudes get their books there. And of course, I geek out. Clam up and don't invite them onto the podcast. But maybe I'll warm up and there'll be Geekscapers in the near future. You like that tunnel for the listeners? Geekscapers? Geekscapers? Well, I like it. I like it because it sounds like you're a far escape fan. So, you know. That's another thing that Ian and I bonded on. Ian did a double thinking. He goes, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're not watching a far escape? Yep. And I was like, dude, that's a bunch of muppet shit. I don't watch anything where the chicks are blue. Yeah. You know what I mean? And he'd say, whoa, sit down. And you explained to me what far escape was about. And it got me in a far escape. So, thank you for that. Well, the best thing about that was I remember. This is my personal opinion. I remember at the time, you were in a relationship with someone who just hated anything geek and just, you know, just couldn't acknowledge or anything like that. Including me. Yes. That's part of the course. That's part of the course. But I was slowly giving you the DVDs, letting you watch a little so you'd be hungry for more, and you wouldn't just give it all to you once. It came to me one day, you said. Yeah, of course. So you called me off and you said, so I need another one. And apparently, the girlfriend who hated everything geek was like, what do you mean you don't have the next one? Yeah. You know? Because, of course, you know, she was going to call it. And then I was like, she only wanted to go to the convention, but I couldn't know. It was a big secret. Oh, yeah, yeah. She wanted to go to the far escape convention. Yeah. Don't tell Ian. And then, of course, Peacekeeper Wars came on for all you far escape fans. You know, people don't know far escape. That was the movie that finished up the series. And she cried during one of the most climatic moments. But yeah, so that's how Ian and I know each other. He's definitely a certified geek as you guys will learn. And Ian was nice enough to go to see a couple movies with me this weekend. The first one out of the bat, because you guys are huge fantasy fans. We had to go. Eragon. Eragon. Eragon. Eragon is based on the book. A lot of people. I mean, it got a lot of publicity because it was written by a 19 year old kid, I guess. Yeah. And it shows. Have you read the book? I actually haven't read the book. And I heard it was shot. Hey, I heard that the book was highly derivative. And so was the movie. What it's about is a kid who, you know, you have an evil ruler who's cast everybody into, you know, submission and he rules with an iron fist. But one day it's prophecy that dragons will return. And that a dragon rider will lead a revolt against the king. And so you have this kid, Eragon, and he finds a dragon's egg while he's fighting in the forest. Of course it happens. Of course he's got a dragon. Of course he has like a psychic link with the thing and he starts putting together a resistance, right? Yes, yes. And so that's what it's about. But of course, you know, he's destined to be the one and no one can do anything without him. And, you know, he has to lead everybody and save the day and go rescue the girl and everything has to work out right. And of course it has to be that, you know, he has his Obi-Wan. You know, who has to teach him for a while. So what do you think of the movie? Straight up. Extremely derivative, the effects were decent. You know, they were much better than I expected. I know that, you know, at Comic-Con when we saw stuff everyone was going, "Okay, here's a trail without any effects. Who knows that this movie's going to be any good?" Right. And, well, the dragon looked good. That's the nicest thing I can say about the movie. Um. Yeah. Yeah. This movie, they clearly paid some really good actors to be in it. Well, here's the thing, because it opens up on clouds and a narration. And I immediately look at Ian and I'm like, "Dude, how can they, like Lord of the Rings just came out?" Yeah. It's not like people have forgotten about it long enough for you guys to make something that just rips it. But I started thinking, "You know what, you can't compare things to Lord of the Rings." Yeah, especially because we're about to get the hobbit without Peter Jackson. Are you sure we're going to get the hobbit without Peter Jackson? That's the way it's looking now. We can all still pray. You should shut your mouth. Gilmore here is here. Brian Gilmore is here. We can pray. It's going to work out. But, you know, apparently New Line is not ready to settle. We'll also, about profits, you know, with Wing Up Film, which is Peter Jackson's company. So as of right now, they're going out to other directors. But I also heard that it expires. Well, that's what they have to, yes. The option expires because it's a whole convoluted deal with MGM having the rights and them having the rights. They have to get it done quickly. They don't feel they can settle laws too quick enough, so they have to go out to other directors. But I don't know about everyone else, but I mean, you know, do we want to see it? Yeah, we want to see it. But I don't know. I'm not excited that he goes to the hobbit if Peter Jackson doesn't do it. Well, we'll get into my opinion on this. But basically, I'm not arrogant. But that's the derivative work I want to see. Yeah, this is the thing about arrogant. I was like, okay, I can't compare it to Lord of the Rings. What it reminds me the most of is the 80s movies that came out after Star Wars. Yeah. When sci-fi got really popular, people started going into it. We had some good ones. We had Lady Hawk. We had Willow. We had Dragon Slayer. Mm-hmm. But the thing is, you had the Mad Martigan character in this. Right. It looks like somebody in Fall Out Boy. Yes. Actually, I thought that could... No, it was Christian Slater from Robin Hood and Prince of Thieves. Right. That's who he was. With the hair drooping and throwing it and shooting in our brains. Yeah. The kid wasn't very good, but neither was Mark Campbell. So I want to hold that against him. My problem with this, it felt really safe. Wait a second. What about the fight scene? The goofy, kidding around fight scene with the cousin, brother, slash thing? I mean, was that the most... I thought I was watching Top Gun for homo-erotic. Here's the thing. You see... Here's the thing. You have a scene where he fights his brother with both staff. And it's kind of a one of the version of the fight in Pirates. Yeah. Exactly. That's exactly what I thought of. But more homo-erotic. Very homo-erotic. They both look like they came out of an Abercomic bitch head. And they're rolling around with each other and giggling. I look next to me at Ian, and he is squeezing the popcorn tub onto his lap. And he said, "You want some popcorn?" And I'm like, "Whoa." Dude, I wanted some popcorn. But anyway, here's a problem with that scene. It says the fact that it was just homo-erotic. But most of the fight scenes in this movie just seem like they're over-edited. Yes. They're just caught like crazy. There's really no choreography that there is. It's totally lost on the over-editing. Yes. And the shots are just generic. And there's no scope to this movie. Oh, here's the thing. I felt like the whole movie is setting up. I mean, it may as well have been the Hobbit from a book standpoint. It's all about setting up what they're hoping is going to be serious. I mean, the cousin disappears and you think he's going to come back and he doesn't. Because obviously that's meant for later. I'm John Malkovich. I think he was your comment. He was on the set for five hours. Yeah, I mean, is everything. And I could not stop laughing the entire time. Oh, yeah. He's only in the movie for about like a total of like five minutes. Was it Christmas dinner time? And it's bad guys. It's really, really bad. But hey, you pay mortgage. Right. Jeremy Irons. Apparently John Malkovich is the new Michael Kane. Give him a million dollars by being anything. Yeah. I can't wait for John Malkovich to eat a box for money. You know. The thing with Jeremy Irons is that one scene brings us long ago. There were dragon riders who filled the sky. And he starts talking in this dreamy way. And I'm trying to get it going. Yeah. Well, that's another thing. It's like, and no one remembers the dragons, really. But I mean, how long has it been? 15 years? I mean, it's like, what is it? Is it amnesia? Oh, my God. It's a big secret story. That's my problem. Oh, no. Let him speak. Oh, OK. The soldiers are going to kill him if he speaks. Let him speak. A little punk says it. OK. Now we get to tell the story. That was my problem with Lucas went back and gave us prequels. Yes. It totally negates Han Solo's great line of being on one side of the galaxy to another. Right. And you can say it makes me believe there's an all-powerful force. And I'm like, wait. Dude. 20 years before, 18 years before, everyone was right now. It's a Jedi in every damn corner. Yeah. You know? Except that, you know, I mean, his whole being on one galaxy or another, I mean, I think it's established in absent one that Tatooine isn't even part of the Republic. They don't know from anything over there. Although, you got the little bug that knows from Jana. And while you're at it, they sure do go to Tatooine, a shitload. For some place that's in the middle of nowhere. You know? When's the last time you've been in the South Pole? You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, yeah. But the argument to that is when we're introduced to what I mean. That's where Luke is. And that's where Anakin comes from, which is established. You didn't have that moment in Aragon where he's out on his farm looking at the sky. And I'm thinking, where is the second son? Right. I was like, I haven't actually talked to you. I was like, really? Are you kidding me? I mean, so basically, this is a movie that's fantasy by numbers. Yeah, you take some of the strongest things that we love from some of our favorite fantasy and science fiction movies, our geek movies, and you put them in this film without the reason why. I will say, though, that Rachel Vise is the voice of the dragon hot. Because Rachel Vise is always hot. Never did I want what it was. I turned on by a dragon before. But there it is. It's Rachel Vise. I was turned on by this. I'm the last dragon. We can only hope that the evil dragon at the end is Connery going all round. Yeah, they're not going to make secrets. Yeah, I got it. So, to get the taste of our mouths, Ian and I went to see Pam's Labyrinth by Gamaldotoro. This is a Spanish movie about a young girl named Fiona who's about 12 years old. She joins her mother, who's pregnant, on the way to a military outpost in the mountains where her new stat is taking part in the Spanish army's attempt to kill socialists that were fighting and are defeated in the Spanish Civil War. They run up into the mountains. He's chasing them. And Fiona goes there. Her life starts beginning to suck. Huge. So, there's an ancient labyrinth next to the outpost in the mountains. Right. And she starts to explore it and the entire fantasy starts from there. Well, and it's an interesting juxtaposition. And Jonathan and I were fortunate enough to actually see the screening and see the director and director of photographers to speak afterwards. And talking about how they shot the scenes differently, but you have the fantasy world if it is fantasy or not. Or just imagination, right? Or escape, I do it a lot. I mean, we look at porn. Well, yeah, of course. But what we all do then. I mean, guys, it's never from the day. I mean, but you have that. And it's really interesting, you know, where, whether or not to escape and how it's relating to the rest of her life and all that. And ultimately, the end. I mean, what I will say is, I definitely recommend it. Visually. Beautiful. And knowing what... Yeah, I did. Knowing what... And they spent so little money when they accomplished. See, okay. See in this movie. And the movie is impressive. Next week, guys, we're going to go over the best of 2006. And this is one of the top five. It's a gorgeous movie. It's in Spanish. So you're going to be reading a bit. But the visuals are incredible. This is his best movie. I would say "Devil's Backbones" is second best movie. And it's a companion piece of "Devil's Backbone." You haven't seen "Devil's Backbone." I haven't seen "Devil's Backbone." It's great. And then "A" to wrap that. The movie's just strong. And it's creepy. And it doesn't pull punches on the violence. It doesn't pull punches on the things that, because there's a kid in this movie. It's a true bear. This movie. And the author actually said that. This is a classic fairy tale, which it's gruesome. There's blood. There's death. There's things to it. It's not pulling punches. And so to take you back to the Hobbit comment, if Peter Jackson doesn't do the Hobbit, there needs to be a script saying "I'll give him a little Toro's desk." I love that. Yeah, I could definitely. And we know he can do the effects movies. That's the only guy I can possibly think of doing the Hobbit if Peter Jackson can do it. I can live with that. You know what I mean? Because this movie really moves on all cylinders. Everything is working for this movie. Every beat of it, you're feeling it to the fullest. In the way that he holds your hand carrying you through this film, scene by scene, there's no scene that feels extra. There's no scene that seems like it went too long. Yeah. Everything that you're feeling and everything that he's giving works. I enjoyed so much that I don't even want to get too substantive in my comments. I don't even want everyone to go out and see it. Right. See the movie. You don't want to know what twists are coming, whatever else. There's some really great, great things in there. I mean, I came home and I was so jazzed that I couldn't go to sleep. So, I played Twilight Princess until then. Right. That's why you were jazzed about the movie. That's why you played Twilight Princess to me. I would have done it otherwise. I need excuses. So, let's just skip trailers this week. Sometimes if there's a badass trailer, we'll talk about it, but I'm not that into the trailers. It's not something I want to force on the episodes every week. I just want to do it when you feel like there's a kick-ass Spider-Man 3 trailer or something like that. That movie's going to rock. As good as the trailers have been, what I saw in San Diego, I still haven't seen a trailer yet. That movie is going to be the shit. Now, Ian's this guy who is always like, "I'm going to midnight." You always go at midnight on that Thursday. If I can, I like him. You know what I mean? He's always at Comic Con every day of Comic Con, including the preview night on Wednesday. No, I'm not going to preview night. I'm not buying toys. That's a children's shit. No, it's not that. I mean, I don't buy toys because I'm an obsessive corporate collector, so it's slippery slope. As you know, I'm an avid comic book collector. He's paying the collection sick. I have a decent collection. Because if you guys have been with me since the old show, you guys know how much I love comics and how much I just know about comics and just ignore comics. We'll apply that by about 50 times and look right next to me. This is what that looks like. I buy probably about 35 or 40 comics a week. I buy on average about about between 8 to 12. If that tells you anything, do you own every amazing Spider-Man? What do you think? I'm missing on the first 15. I'm missing the first 15, so if you guys are out there... I don't have to. If your father doesn't let you in the attic, break that lock. Go up in the attic. Find his own Spider-Man. I mean, I have a written Spider-Man. Don't cheat. Well, I had to read him. Right. Right. You know, I've got to read him every copy. And bear in mind that from there, and I have every other Spider-Man. Right. And everyone. It's not just that you own this shit. I don't know if it's that, but it's not amongst us. You know it. You're like, "That goes back to it. You're telling me stuff." Because continuity gets really convoluted. Yeah. But you know, you see, at your age, you know, I have 8 years... Did you hear this? I have 8 years ahead of you. I've been reading comics at least that much longer than you. How old are you when you started reading comics? I would say I was somewhere at like the age of like 10 to 12. Yeah. I mean, I read a little as a kid, but I became a... And it's scary to say, I was a hardcore collector at like 11. And I worked in my local college job. That's like meeting a kid, and he's a guy who was doing a heroin by 11. I was having sex by 12. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. No, I was a hardcore. I mean, I was working and I worked and some kids get out of it. And then they get back into it. You'd never got out of it. No, I actually did. I'm not sure. I stopped collecting in high school. You always stopped collecting in high school because you were being a high fan and see that you're going to get the link. Well, no, that's not why I stopped. I stopped because I remember it, and this would be weird for you because of your age. But for me, it was comics had gone. When I started collecting, they were like 60 cents cover price, and then went to 75. And then everything went from 75 cents to a dollar in like a couple of weeks. You imagine the same. Yeah, I mean, I know it's so much cheaper now, but for the idea, I mean, you realize it went up 33 and a third percent. That's radical. Suddenly, it was like, oh my God, like what do I got to come up with to get the same age? The same exact titles. And it had stopped being fun. I was going over a couple of weeks. It was a weird time. I mean, I quit collecting in like late '86. And it actually brings, oh, actually, I'm sorry, late '86. Well, that's the reality. No, because here's the thing. I mean, it's actually right before it's kind of like politics where things get a little more oppressive and then some great things happen. I mean, dark night returns just come out, which is great. You know, Washington was just ending, which was great. But, you know, crisis had ended and I felt DC was a mess after crisis. Crisis was so great. But after the crisis, there's a lot of things that, you know, people didn't know what to do with the character. And I think they have a similar thing going on right now with some of these big cross covers. So we'll get into that. Yeah, okay. I mean, we could have it backwards. Let's start moving news. We talked about first game. Yeah. Golden Globes came out. Golden Globes came out, yes. No nomination. We got the list. Okay. Let's go with the list. Let's go over the whole list. What jumps at you? What jumping at you? Leonardo DiCaprio got nominated twice. Well, that's not going to happen to be awesome. Here's my thing on the Leonardo DiCaprio thing. He could split the vote and end up with neither. Yeah. One of the disappointments I saw on that list was... Did you see how Nelson? I didn't, but I was at Sundance when it was going on over at Griffin's about it. He was amazing. He was awesome. Yeah. The other thing that I didn't like was as much as I loved it. He was making that to the notebook. Right. As much as I loved Borat? Yeah. I don't think. It sounds very cool. No. It should have gotten nominated for the acting. Well, you have to remember, he's fully method. He becomes Borat. Sure. But over... Did you see Stranger the Picture? I loved Stranger the Picture. Dude. That may be one of my favorite movies of the year. Well, Ferrell has not gotten the nomination like that. They should just give that movie every nomination they can give it. Well, Ferrell was amazing, and it's understated, different than anything else I've ever seen him do. Right. That movie is pure brilliance. Everything on the screen is absolutely amazing. Right. I love, love, love that movie. Go, run, see that movie. But you got Sasha Baron Coleman, his... Yeah. Well, and that's why there's several nominations, but no, he should not win over Wolf Ferrell. And if he does, then he's a sellout. No. I'm just saying, if he does, it's because the movie's making money. Here's what I'm telling you, friend. Um... Yeah. He shouldn't be in there. And then you have... Well, what I'm saying, you have to have other performances. I mean, yeah. Johnny Depp. You know, Johnny Depp is great in Pirates, but we've already seen it. He's doing the same thing. Yeah, it's way, way. I'm moving way too long. Right. I mean, you know, did we really need the whole King Kong scene? Great. Johnny Depp got to do the cute thing with the makeup. Like, I care. You know? Do we really need the... I mean, I just saw King Kong last year. They're really got to watch the whole island scene again. Um, what's one thing? Like, uh... You got the department. Right. That's the movie. Really good movie. Well, it's a B-12. Really? You know what? Do you love the movie? No, excuse me. I love Martin Scorsese. I love Jack Nicholson. Okay? But here's the thing. Talk about overly indulgent of Jack. Did we really need the notch scene? Did we need the opera scene? What is that about? Did it have anything to do with the movie? I'm going back to Sasha Baron code with this guy, actually. If you want to do that. What do you guys do? Okay. Well, what I've got... He totally belongs on there. He belongs on there almost more than any other actor on there. Why is that? Because a lot of the... A lot of the Borat stuff that he's been doing. Oh, well, I'm kind of thick, so... Okay. Maybe not too. Yeah, he has these tissues, guys. He's like... You're at... Yeah, they're left over from this morning before the shower. And so... Oh, good. No, don't worry. And... Oh! Oh! Oh! Jesus! All right. Well, there's a good night's sleep for all you guys. I hope you guys were eating. I hope you guys were eating some kind of... I just stuck my stomach on the Gilmore's nuts and then put it in my mouth. Hopefully you're all eating pea soup. All right. So... Sasha Baron Cohen... I don't even know what you're saying. Wow. And so... Sasha Baron Cohen belongs on this because a lot of Borat is purely improvisational. You were... Between every word. Purely improvisational. And it's amazing. Not thinking at all. No, no, no, no, no, no. I do believe a lot of it is staged, but a lot of it is improvisational as well. The way that he not only pulls off that, but that he pulls off his characters. His characters are so believable. And he really... Like you said, he's like rented and they're great. Hey, Graham. And that is why... You're a comedy specialist. And that is why you... And that is why you... I respect him as an actor and as a creator and as a comedian because he's so convincing in his characters. He really drives in and is just like, "Wow, this is that guy. You forget you're watching an actor." And that's what... That's a lot of what good acting is. And so that's why I do think that he deserves some kind of recognition. I think our audience is forgetting that they're looking at a podcast. They went back to whatever they were doing. You have to give that would be a lot of critical breaks. That relationship was stable. Yeah, I mean, they had a few months going, so I was kind of excited. Get the fucking... Yeah, I'm going to go blow my nose. I'm going to go do some more blow. Get more chase in the dragon in the corner. You know, let's talk about heroes because we love heroes. Let's talk about heroes. And so we're on to television. Well, what's his nuts? The dude who plays hero, got nominated? Yes. For Masioka, got nominated for best performance by an actor in a supporting role. Right. He got nominated for that. That's what I'm going to say. But I feel like... Okay, I love heroes. The alley large storylines. But she's hot. And it's always been below. But she's always been hot. Wait a second. The episode when she has sex with Nathan Vittrelli. It's hot. He put that in shell. It was a good shot when she's on top, you know, and straddling. I mean, I thought that was good. So if you guys aren't watching heroes, there might be some spoilers in this. No, if you guys aren't watching heroes, anyone that likes comic books, that likes fantasy. You guys are watching heroes. Heroes is the bomb. I ruined heroes for myself a couple of weeks ago when I realized that Peter Petreli's character is stylistically based on little Nikki with the... No, have you not seen that guy Mark? With the bang in the crooked mouth. And the way he's like, "It's a cheerleader, they're the world!" Right. And... Well, my own Vince Emilia, you know, played so best for a long son in the newest Rocky movie. So that makes him retarded. Does that make him retarded? No, you know, I think maybe he just got stuck in that style. He looks like little Nikki. I can't look at him anymore and not think about it sailing a little Nikki. Yeah. It's ruined the show. But the Masi Oka character, the hero? She comes to Japanese guy in America with the same language barrier that acts like that. Well, and as I understand it, he's not even Japanese. So that's why he's getting nominated. Dude. Hey, it's got to be hard to be a different person. And play such a total Japanese therapist. Dude. I don't think I think he's not. What? Yeah. Well. I mean, I just... It's not black. We're going to stomach racism. But I just feel like at first it was cute. It was entertaining. Then it started getting a little bit annoying. Now I'm just doing this with some racist crap. Now it's like... Yeah, that's right. Get the sword. Start kicking butt. Start speaking nonbroken English. Let's just get there. Yeah. I agree. I agree now. Golden Globes. Are you a big awards film fan? I try to watch my contract. Yeah. It depends. I mean, I'll watch the Globes. I'll watch the Oscars. I'll watch the M.A. Really? And I'll watch the VMA. You do it for work, too. Yeah. I'll watch the VMA awards because that'll be fun. You know. I'm a big M2 movie award fan. That's basically what I watch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The skits are always good. So, uh... Sketching. Excuse me. See, that's... If I watch Studio 6, I have to do everything to get the sketches now. Is that a good show? It's Aaron Sorkin. The writing's always going to be great. You know. I read a really interesting review that basically said about it, that it's... It's getting a little bit too caught up in the fact that it is about television and you're seeing that. But of course, you know, the critics are never happy. Either it's too much about the issues and they're going on too much about, you know, the war and all that. Then they go too much about being tempted when that's what the show's about. You know what? 30 Rock Madness is going to be really great without being stuck in that. Yeah. He doesn't want us to be great. Well, you know, Alex Baldwin is amazing. Sure. But he's amazing and almost... He's the best actor in the world. So... He's the greatest actor who's ever lived. He has found the ways he's gotten older. He's kind of subtly poked fun at himself in such an endearing way. Yeah, so in there, we forgive him as brothers. Well, I don't know if we'll forget, but we forget. So, um... What else we got here? Uh... I know what else we got. The fact that you still have not watched Battlestar Galactica. Yeah. Okay. Here's a guy that's running... He's now running a website. He did a podcast for how long? Over a year. Called... What was the old one? I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't even remember. What kind of self-respecting geek or... Maybe non-self-respecting geek. I'm not sure if the two terms are a contradiction or not. You don't watch Battlestar Galactica. The best show on television. Or just hit me with something. You know, we should be beating you. Okay? I mean... All right. This week we'll stay on topic. The mid-season break. What an awesome show. I mean, talk about political allegory. I don't want to say too much because maybe one day he'll actually watch it. I will. You know how on Tivo they're starting to call this time-shifting? They're starting to call people who Tivo and watch shows later time-shifting. Because it's messing up the Nielsen. It's ability to do advertising and stuff like that. Right. They're calling it time-shifting. I have taken it the further step and I only watch stuff on DVD. I'm super time-shifting. Look, you know, and a lot of people are like that and I get that. I mean, I think that... It's like I only read stuff in trades. Oh, fuck you. I don't read everything in trades. So it's stuff like fables, walking dead. Yeah, but first of all, you know, there are a lot of people out there that say that they are comic book fans and they read only trades. And listen, I understand it's easier and you don't want to wait. First of all, that's kind of bullshit because if you're a comic book fan, part of it is you go on Wednesday. I mean, comic book collectors, it's Wednesday. Line in the sand has been drawn up. Count down to Wednesday. No, I mean, I'm sorry. It's like, you know, Gilmore had his hands up. Apparently we're picking Gilmore. You need to go to your hospital. You want to say what? Look at Gilmore. His face is red. Dude, just wait. Okay. If you're a comic fan. Well, no, I'm just saying, here's the thing. You know, books like that, it's a vertical book. You can read that in trade. I think if you can't follow anything from the big two Marvel and DC by trade. No, you can't. You can't do books over and over. And in this day and age where, I mean, they actually are there, they change the whole nature of a company. I don't think you can consider yourself a comic book fan if you don't read comics. Right. It doesn't work. You're a trade fan. And I admit it to the marketing plan and all that. Gilmore's wagging me off. Gilmore? Get the hell out of here. Gilmore is not a comic fan. Gilmore wasn't even born. He was born in a test tube. He was born in 85. He was part of a Cold War plot. So... I could be your father. You maybe? Laura just laughed on the other room. We're filming in Laura's bedroom or living room. We're filming in Laura's living room. I'm not his father because he doesn't get it about comics. Right. You would have beat his ass. Yeah, that would be it. You should put the fuck on Gilmore. Yeah, there is a difference between collectors and fans to repeat in case people can't hear Gilmore. But that's not the point. The point is that there are people that I know that say that they're in the comic books. They're bunches like a trade or some liars. I mean, trades are cool. Oh, oh, speaking of. How does this repent mean? graphic novel. I only read graphic novel. I got news for you. If the book came out as a comic and they collected it, it's not a graphic novel. It's a trade paperback. Okay? I just found myself a whole new level of geek. Well, fine. Whatever. Fuck you. That's a trade paperback. The graphic novel is an original work meant to be in that format. Yes, okay. It's fine. You know, people, you get to a bigger audience and I get that and I think it's a great thing. And I want people to be reading them, you know, but Sin City was a comic book. Right. Actually, Sin City started out. You know, Dark Horse comics present. But Arkham Asylum is a graphic. Arkham Asylum is a graphic novel. That's right. Oh, I hear you. I hear you. Every Sin City story. It doesn't get my Spider-Man panties in the twist. That was family values. You know, there were a couple of Sin City graphic novels. You know, but most of them are trade paper vactors. Well, well, well, to keep the show moving, you're a big fan of comic books. I am. You must have been excited by the news about Dimension films moving forward with the Madden movies. I'm thrilled. You know what? Speaking of Sin City, it's Robert Rodriguez, his company, Troublemaker, is doing it. He's producing. But he's not directing. George Swang, you guys may have known him from some of your sharks. He directed that one. Right. And wrote it. And maybe I think he's working tightly with Alred. They're going to shoot in the Sin City style. They are. They are. This is the director and somebody who loves Mad Man. I've read every Mad Man. I'm really excited that Image Comics is doing a new Mad Man book coming out March. And this is the character that I would want to do the most as a comic movie. So they are doing it for screwing you. They're really doing it for screwing me. No, I mean, he's the one that was the snappiest. It's a guy who has a mysterious past. He's like a reanimated corpse. Kind of like Frankenstein. His name's Frank Einstein. And you don't know too much about his past. You think maybe he was an assassin, but he's got a really hip feel to him. He uses a yo-yo as a weapon. He hangs out with his red hair, a chick named Joe. Kind of looks like Laura. She was like Laura. And it hangs out with like Mad Scientist, Spites Aliens, Spites Mutants. And it's done in a really cool way. And Mike Allen is one of my top favorite artists of all time. He did the artwork for like Chasing Amy. For those of you guys who don't know the Bullman and Chronic artwork, that's Mike Allen. And I'm excited for this film. More so than almost anything else. This is the one movie I wanted to see Robert Rodriguez make while he was being sidetracked with Spikeids while he was doing Sin City. Even while he was doing the Grindhouse, which is going to be one of my favorite films. I kept being like, "Dude, get back to Mad Man. Get back to Mad Man." I wanted to see a bad man movie like crazy. And now hopefully we're finally going to get it. Well, you know, we live in an exciting time. The advent of CGI has given us an opportunity to pretty much all these properties get to be made. And you know what? It's a lot easier where property comes from smaller companies to get it made. You know? So, I mean, obviously the studios already they're plumbing them. And yes, I know. There are going to be people that are purest but go like, "Oh, everything has to be made." But you know what? It's exciting. And you know, I have to admit, I have certain friends that look at me and go like, "You're a part of the problem. Here's the bottom line." It's like a comic and I like it and make a movie. I'm going to go to it. You know? I might not love it. And it was worse. And I'm probably going to buy the DVD. Dude, you bought X3? I bought X3. I own it. You own Fantastic Four? All right. The one I really get crapped for is Daredevil. But I own the director's character. And it's much better. Dude, it's so much better. But the record's kind of Daredevil is good. It's good. Watch it. It's so exciting. Watch it. So, no one believes me. I'm telling you, it's good. So, I'm excited. They actually developed a plot. They don't butcher it in the cuts, in the transition. The Daredevil director's gets much better. Yeah. He still has to do dry on the own train tracks. But he doesn't go ahead and let someone get killed so we can get laid. That's fucked. Yeah. That's gross. I mean, listen, I'm glad to see we got the hot sex scene with Jennifer Garner, which made her leave her husband. You know, I have been out with a baby. I get it. You know? Yeah, not over somebody in peril. Oh, no. Screw it. Let's cry for help. I'm going to get laid. Yeah. That's not what superheroes do. As we speak from experience. So, speaking of comics, we can talk about... I mean, I would have done it, you know. We can talk about comics with Ian until the cows come home and they're on their way. But I kind of want to say, there's been some good books that came out. Spider-Man Rain, I've been disappointed by. Spider-Man Rain was very much that Dark Knight wanted me. It doesn't quite know where it's going. Right. But I want to talk about some of these people who aren't selling to comics. We've been talking a lot of comics in here. I mentioned fables. Fables is awesome. You're hardcore into it. We didn't. We never covered it on the old show. Okay. Did I convince you to get to them? Yeah, you did. And you convinced me to get into so much. Yeah. I'm in jail. I've blown so much blood. That's right. I'm in drug dealing. So, what's fables about? Fables is a modern day take on. What if all these fables that we've heard, all these fairy tale characters? It's no wide beauty to be used. They all come from a different dimension. And in an effort to escape some great secret adversary was conquering all of their homelands. Do you have the trade paper record, guys? I got one. In an effort, they all came to our Monday, Monday in Earth. And they live in secret in a place called Fabletown. And they have rules. The first trade is stay. Stay in hiding. And it's just absolutely great. And Bill Winnicam is the guy who writes it. Is there a regular R team? Like this guy Medina, what's his name? What's it? An Angel Medina, do this one? Lon Medina. Lon Medina is the penciler on the first trade that I picked up for Laura. So she can have something to read on the planet for holidays. And yeah, I've started to read it. And basically, the main character is the Big Bad Wolf. It's not really a true main character. He's one of the characters. And actually, I should also say that they've done a spin up called Jack of Fable, which is also great. And in a different way. It's about Jack. It's Jack from every fable that they were at the Jack Inn. So if it's Jack in the Beanstalk, if it's Jack and Jill, Jack B. Nimble, they're all him. He's the same Jack. And it's just, you know, I want everyone to go out and buy this and read it. And it's, you know, it's so clever. It's literary. And I mean, and then I have to admit, it's over my head. Some of the lore that's going on in there. But I mean, it's fascinating. It's, you know, big, long story arcs. I mean, it's divided to short arcs. You know, I mean, read one trade and not feel like, oh my God, I don't know what's going on or I already get a complete story. So, I mean, as we were saying before, a book like that, read that just by trade. You know, actually, the vertical line does a really good job of, you know, putting out books that work really well and play to that market. That, you know, the bookstore market that carried the trades and all that. Is there any fables graphic novel? Actually, one just came out. That's all it makes. Yeah. Okay. And it was great. And that's a graphic novel. That is a graphic novel. Yeah. That's right. That's right. There is not a hundred bullets graphic novel. It's not your trade paper. That's a great book. Yeah, a hundred bullets is a great book. And some of our readers picked it up from when we reviewed it on the old show. So that's a good recommendation if you think comics suck dick. And one of the things that we do. And not in a good way. BJ and I went to Seattle recently. We got to hang out with somebody who listens to the show. And he showed us around his comic store. Hey, what's up, guys? We find ourselves in sunny Seattle, Washington. Welcome. And we have a treat for you. Standing next to me is our good friend. Hello. But you guys may know him from the forums as. Funnelfish. Hello. So, BJ and I are in Seattle. We called up Ben Dunn and we said, "Dude, why don't you show us your comic book store? Your little geek paradise." So, where are we right now? Right now, we're at the comics dungeon on 45th street. So, 750. 45th street Seattle, Washington. The comic book store in Seattle. Why is this your perfect comic store, buddy? Well, for this, they have the largest selection of graphic novels in Seattle. Plus, anything they don't have, they can get for you within a matter of weeks, if not days. Also, they have really good deals if you get boxes. Like from me, I have probably about, I don't know. Like a subscription. Yeah. A pull list, some of you may know. I don't know tech terms, John. It's okay. There are different terms, I think, across the country. Pull list, subscription, boxes. I have a box. Okay. You have your pull list, the more you get, the bigger discount you get. Let's just say right now, I have a 30% discount. That's bad. That's bad. Financially, that's bad. Yeah. For you, not the store. No, financially for the store that loved me. So everything seems clearly alphabetized, I was perusing earlier, buying myself some stuff. They've got stuff going back about three or four years that hasn't been put in the catalog box. So if you missed something by a couple of months, chances are to be up there. Spiderman, Mary Jane. You read that? Of course. Don't you? That's a shit book. They also have a really large selection of back issues. And they also do, what is that CGC? Yeah. Commigrating service? That's right. Yeah. They do a lot of CGC stuff. They have them up front. There's a lot of indie books. There's a lot of books that my store doesn't get because they don't carry a lot of hardbacks. You know what I mean? Like, a lot of stuff from Kitchen Sync Press. A lot of more indie publishers are carried here. So if you guys aren't even big comic books, superhero guys and tight spans, you can find all sorts of art books for you artists and there's all sorts of independent books. All right. Some of you guys have younger brothers and sisters. A lot of them accuse you of being a geek or a nerd. You can actually fight back by getting them some kitty books and plant the geek seat early. So when they grow up, they'll be just like you. Don't be horrified. I think it's a great idea. And look, who doesn't want to grow up and be like us too? We're sexy people. That's right. That's right. I bought myself a toy earlier today and do you ever buy any of the toys? They have a huge selection. The only time I usually buy toys is for like holidays and birthdays. I don't myself collect toys. But if I were to, this is the place that has it. And a lot of variants. Here's a variant addition of the last Marvel Legends. This is the Burn Victim Weapon X from Age of Apocalypse. That's a variant. They've got a variant venom over here for the Marvel Legends. A line where it's not just venom. You actually see Eddie Brock getting his ass torn up. So this is probably the most disturbing thing I've ever seen. Root off the red nose, reindeer, island of misfit toys. It says try me. And if you notice, it's asking you to touch his butt. So let's see what happens. Oh, just like me. You touch my ass. My nose glows. You guys, this is a Geekscape exclusive. Right? Comic book store world tour. That's right. Stop number one. Coming to your town. All right. So that was our trip to Seattle to visit the comics dungeon. Seattle Washington and hang out with our buddy, Ben Dunn. A lot of you guys know from the forums, this funnel fish. So moving away from comics, but keeping the fantasy theme. I'd just like to tell you that you are looking right now at someone who, an hour ago, completed Zelda Twilight Princess. And yet still has never watched any Battle Star Galactica. Let me tell you, my left hand still hurts. The end battle through all the different forms of the end villain changes form. Dude, you've got to get into all that. Yeah, I do. I'm bad. I love games and I don't play enough because, you know, I watch so much television. I go to so many movies. There are so many comic books. Something has to suffer. Right. But for me, it's Battle Star. Yeah, that's not okay. It's not okay. You know what? You could have taken a little longer to finish. I didn't say don't play it. Could have taken a little longer to finish it. And you could have walked all about like a lot. New Year's resolution. I'm going to be a better geek. Dude. Maybe a bigger geek. Dude, you still got two weeks. I can do it in the 2006. You can. Well, as of the airing of this, I got one week to watch all the Battle Stars. But these guys will be really pissed when their episodes start coming late because I'm watching all of it. What's Graham's opinion? That I don't watch it because Foxy's not in it? That's why I don't watch it. Who said Foxy's not in it? Oh. Battle Stars, great. Alright. First of all, that episode when Kirk fights the tribals, it's amazing. I like the Gorn episode better. No, wait. That's a wrong show. When Picard fights the Borgs, that's a wrong show. When Serenity got canceled, no wait. That's a firefight. Serenity's the moment. Either one. When the Darth Vader shows up. Same thing. It's the same shit. Dude. Get out of here. I don't know. I don't know if he's serious or not. Well, no, he's brought it up. Convince me. Besides saying it's awesome. Oh. He's the first of all, you know, the actors because, you know, they like to look down on us geeks too. They like to say that it's not a science fiction show. It's a drama set in space. And it truly is. It's brilliant political allegory. Time magazine, entertainment weekly. They all say it's the best show on television. It won the Peabody Award for artistic excellence this past year. Well, Michael, what? I don't know what you're talking about. Laura, you're awesome. We stole our house. She can talk. So it's a good show. It's an awesome show. It's absolutely great. And every level. And there's hot women on it. In 2007, we're going to watch the battle start together. Hold on. I'll say yes. We're going to watch it together like this. Hey, man, check that out. Great. Now he's going to remember that. You're going to picture Graham and I sit there being intimate on the couch. So, uh, moving into video games, I defeated Zelda. It took definitely 70 hours that people tell you that it takes. My one complaint about Zelda. 70 hours. He could have watched all of Alpha Galactic in a lot less time than that. So my one complaint is that the, uh, end bosses. Not as hard. Not as hard as they should have been. You know, it's still a Zelda game. It's still going to be hard. Because you like it hard. Dude, I just like a little challenge. And I got to tell you Nintendo, give me a second Zelda game on the Wii. A little more challenging bosses. And, uh, then we can talk. Because, um, I just love this game. You would love Zelda. You sound disappointed. Uh, I'm only disappointed in the boss battles. Except that very last boss, to 45 minutes to get through. And my hand was killing me. You got it. Aren't you used to that? Well, yeah. Well, Graham called me and, uh, and he said, "Hey man, I'm going to head over to the show." And I didn't want to ruin things for him because he's going to end up playing through the game. And I said, "Dude, don't come over yet." Because I knew I was at the very end of the game. Dude, I don't want to spoil this for you. You got to get there. This is something you need to earn yourself. Say even Hyrule is something you have to find yourself. I'm finishing up the game. No, I think you don't want to come over. It's like, no, no, no, no. Okay, okay, okay. You thought he was naked. No, no, no. Here's the thing, guys, guys. I was. I beat Hyrule naked with the Wii. It's such an immersive experience. I have to go all the way. And as I said, aren't you used to having that feeling in your hand? No, yeah, definitely. Sort of power. I meant the cramping. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm right-handed. So now I have a... I'm pretty much screwed. I have a cramp on my left and a cramp on my right. It's going to be a load in the night. Hey, it's like another person. I mean, yeah. The one thing that's cool, though, is I don't know if you know what the... Some of the new generation little consoles, you can download old games. Or you can play old new games on them. And on this one, you can get old Nintendo games. And they just release a lineup for you guys. I promise that in upcoming episodes, hopefully I'll be able to afford a 360 or Sony PlayStation 3 and tell you guys all about the wonderful things that are going on in them. But the games that are announced that I'm excited about that you can download are Dr. Mario. It's coming up. Remember that game from the old NES? Pro Wrestling, where you could be the fucking Amazon and chomp down on somebody's head? Pro Wrestling was one of them original great games. My Tyson's Punch-Out, I want them to remake this so you can play it with the Wii controls. What else you got? Donkey Kong Country for the Super Nintendo Super Mario RPG. These are all the games that I loved. I want them to do Mario Kart. Old Super Nintendo Mario Kart, but they are giving us Nintendo 64 Mario Kart. They're giving us Super Metroid. They're giving us Star Fox 64 Toe Jam and Earl for the Sega Genesis. We can play that to two player. Two good times. So the forecast channel started around the time of the taping of this episode. So now I can go on my Wii and check the forecast. And I can look it on the globe and I can move the globe around. And I'm like, "Oh, that's where that country is." And when do you get your check? Oh, I'm just in love with the system. I can't doubt for it. I'm just wondering if they're paying you or what. Yo, is Marvel Comics going to give you a check for jerking off the Spider-Man for the last 30 years of your life? Excuse me. I'm not going on and on about that. I mean, you didn't even let me talk about what's going on right now. Dude, our show's only an hour. I'm not selling it. Oh, man. You gotta do that. You know what I mean? Sure. No, I know. And it can be yours too. For low, low price. Don't get out of here with this. Get out of here. What are you doing here? Yeah, you can get Duck Hunt. But, you know, I'm waiting for the light gun to come out with it. Uh, VJ's got a week. We play pretty heavily. You played Rayman, didn't you? He loves the Rayman. What else did you play? VJ doesn't know. VJ clams up. Guys, VJ's still with us. Graham is still with us. Gilmore chuckle nuts monkey over here is still with us. Uh, he's VJ. When VJ plays the Wii, he's VJ. His me is me, Jay. Isn't that right, VJ? He just said no. This is where people are stopping listening. 'Cause they're not in on the joke. I'm not in on the joke and I'm ready to leave. There's no joke. The joke is my life. Alright, I get that joke. So, yeah, hopefully in the upcoming episodes we'll cover all the systems. And, uh, yeah, there's a lot of stuff. And name the system. What? Oh god, Star Wars reference for all you assholes. Out there, uh, who weren't turned off by the, uh, the prequels. Um, that's funny that I can still recall it. I really banned a lot of Star Wars in my mind. I really got rid of a lot of it. All the space that I would have been holding on to Star Wars, so, you know, tightly. I was like, dude, that's useful space. I can put something that isn't just gonna go down in flames in front of my eyes. But apparently I don't look like I'm in the head. Yo, I still have to experience it for the first time, dude. Dude, dude, when I, I will experience it and I will, and I will sing it to the world. Right here on GeekScape. Uh, I wanted to tell you guys some of the stuff that's going on with this new show. It's not just a new show. Uh, if you guys are downloading this beginning, uh, you'll be able to sign up for listservs within a couple weeks. Uh, well, within a week or two, you guys are gonna have your full bulletin board system. Then you'll be able to sign up for a user profile. And after that point, there's gonna be news, reviews, interviews. All this written content, you guys are gonna be able to submit it. It's gonna be a full interactive community site. I can't even go on about it, but I'll be posting plenty of details. GeekScape.net is gonna be the new, uh, home for you guys to get your news, your podcast. And, uh, interact with all your fellow geeks 'cause that's really what this is about. It's about the experience, right, Graham? Van Dam Pictures. And Van Dam Pictures, uh, uh, Graham wants to submit. I guess that shows. He's in my light. Uh, so basically, that's our show. I know Ian, we can actually do this show for three hours, can't we? Sure. Apparently not. The lore has to go to sleep. Uh, we could do this show for three hours, but we're just gonna have to have Ian back in a future episode. We're gonna have Gilmour back in a future episode. Graham's probably gonna be here and sit next to me in every episode. BGLB was, uh, next week, I hope to bring you guys an episode from Austin. You guys get to see my room from high school, which hasn't changed since high school. And, uh, like, it's not like it was that long ago. Uh, yeah, it was ten years ago. Oh, yeah. Believe it or not. And, uh... And the John Stockton poster was five years old, ten years ago. Right. So, um, we will see you guys next, uh, week. Keep checking in on the website, geekscape.net. You'll be seeing, uh, you'll be seeing the whole thing come together. 'Cause as much as this show is about you guys and, uh, your submitted videos and your experience, movies, video games, comics, and all that, garbage. Oh, site. Garbage! It's garbage. It's golden garbage. Uh, the site will be interactive. You guys can talk to each other. You guys can do all this great stuff, submit reviews, submit news, and be as big a part of the show as we are. Hook up. Oh, yeah. Hook up. We actually have our first relationship formed over meeting through our show. So, um, we'll talk about that in a future episode. I got the, uh, lover. No, it's true. I got the, uh, I'm talking to the two lovebirds about submitting a video for us. And, uh... See, it can happen. They wrote me, they wrote me, thank you emails. And I said, you know what? It can happen for you. So keep checking in the geekscape, geekscape.net. And, uh, even Vijay has somebody with a crush on them. Isn't that right, Vijay? Well, look, you know... I'm not saying it here, but I know. That's true. You know, that, that's why, I actually want to say that's one thing you talk about the whole stigma of being a geek. And this day and age, you look at Hollywood, I mean... I think really from my generation on, people used to, everyone would quit, you know, at the end of this stuff when they were kids. And people held on to it, and they still, you know, win. And most of the people in power. Yeah, and that's what's happened with people in power. I mean, the reality is that, you know, comic books now, it's not kids reading them. It's adult, and the form has, I think, been improved a lot. It's absolutely elevated. It's sort of gonna pop the oats, if you will. But, um, in the sense that it's being written for adults, so it's not talking down to the audience anymore. I'm sorry, I have to, you know, I think some of the audience can't do it. You can talk down to my audience with a pop the oats. Oh, come on. Fuck that here. Yeah, this educated people. This guy just wants to sort of be over, so he can go back to jerking off. Well, come on, I'm sure a lot of people are watching it and jerking off. Yeah. So I hope you guys enjoyed that first episode. We're still hard at work here at Geekscape to bring you guys a new website and a new show. Wanted to leave with one last thing. I took my mail today and got a great package here from our buddy James in Belgium. James wrote, "Hey, Jonathan, thanks again for doing Geek Girl. I really enjoyed it while I was around and it helped cheer me up after my voting accident in Belgium." He got, James almost got killed in a voting accident. He wrote us some emails last year about his recovery. That's what he discovered in the show. But, uh, it landed me in Discovery for two months. I'm looking forward to the new show. I can't wait to watch it on the first of January. Well, I'm surprised it's here on Christmas. So thanks again for putting in all the hard work in the show. Into the show for the last year and years to come. Uh, once you do another live show or get together, uh, when I'm not across the Atlantic, I will definitely be there to say thank you in person. However, in the meantime, please enjoy this box of Belgium chocolates that I brought back with me from Belgium last week. It's our second greenhouse export behind the one and only Jean-Claude Van Damme. Uh, I also put a bracelet. I picked up in Namibia in the package for you. So thank you for the power bracelet, James. Uh, which is a solid, happy holiday season. And thank you for watching. And I'm going to take this home with me to Austin because I know that my father will enjoy him just as much as me. And I'll see you guys next week. And go back to work now with the village people. [ Silence ]