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Political parties changing with the times
This is a podcast from WOR. It is the Jessie Kelly show. Let's have some fun. On a Tuesday and there is a turn to tackle on a Tuesday first. Who's speaking at the convention? Are you upset about it? They have Teamsters here. They have a scantily-clad young lady here who hasn't only fans profiled. Do these things make you angry? We're going to talk about that in fact in the opening tonight. Secret Service, the head of the Secret Service, Kim Chittle won't resign. We're going to have a bigger conversation about that, what it means, what it reveals about our government. Poll numbers that are going to make your jaw drop and hair fall out just like mine did when we talk about the post-shooting polls. All that's so much more coming up tonight on the world famous Jessie Kelly show. That and of course you know we're going to throw in some Biden stuff. I didn't plan on that because when I in 2020, when broadcast media vice president, all that, oh I should also note Michael Knowles coming up about a half hour from now, Kevin Roberts with Heritage coming up later, who knows what else will throw in tonight. On the world famous Jessie Kelly show, I want to begin here though. Because my email inbox is full today. It's full of happy thoughts and negative thoughts about what's happening at the convention. I realize you're not at the convention. I get that. But you're probably watching it. Everyone's watching it. My wife's watching it. Everyone's watching it. They want to watch the Trump speeches. They want to watch this speech, that speech. This is especially in the wake of that assassination attempt. This is our Super Bowl is such an overused cliche. But that's kind of what it is. If you're a political person and you come here, that's what it feels like. Freaking security anywhere. The cops had to murk some homeless dude today who got in a bum knife fight and everything. It was wild. So that's what it's like. It's crazy. You should know that I was fine. I was inside eating at the time. I knew you're going to find that shocking, but I was eating. Anyway, so yesterday, the head of the Teamsters, Teamsters Union gets up, gives us speech at the convention. It wasn't a rah rah. I'm voting Republican now speech. But you know Teamsters Union, very, very powerful union. Union that goes Democrat almost every single time. And a lot of people are very happy about it. A lot of people are very upset about it. Jesse, the Teamsters president seriously. I'm very concerned about this. He was praising Josh Hawley for changing his view on right to work. The idea that employees should be forced to pay dues to an organization. They're opposed to his fascism at its finest. Who is this guy speaking at the RNC? Just when I think the GOP has all the momentum, they shoot themselves in the face, talk me out the ledge. I've got all kinds of things like that. And it's not unique, you should know, to the Teamsters Union. There's a young lady, and I admit, if I try to talk about this with any amount of depth, with any degree of depth, you're just going to laugh me off the radio. Because as you know, I'm 42 going on 92. Amber Rose, who's Amber Rose? I think she was married to Kanye, or dated Kanye, something along those lines. She dates wrappers. She has an adult themed page that is still active to this day. So certainly not your normal speaker at a Republican convention. She gets up and speaks as well. And a lot of people are very upset about it. Some are thrilled about it. Hey, big tent, some are very upset about it. Hey, is this what we stand for now? Is this what we are cultural values? Okay, so I'm going to say something. I'm just going to lay all this out. Maybe you'll love it. Maybe you'll hate it. But here's the reality of life. Political parties, different political parties. Yes, you know, that's not an American phenomenon. That's the entire history of the world. When you have nations of any size, I mean, there were you can read old arguments. If you're reading about sitting bull is a sitting bull is having arguments with his people about there's a faction who wants to go this route and a faction who wants to go that route. Political parties are the way societies go. We feel the society should go more this way. But we over here feel society should go more this way. And political parties changing with the times is also the entire history of the world, including the entire history of the United States of America. Republican Party, Democrat Party, they've both gone through gigantic changes, right, left, middle, otherwise, throughout the history of this country. This is what happens when the people of a nation change. One of my larger points I want to make, I'm going to make right now on this. The parties change with the people. The parties change with the people. Here's here's a big one. Here's a big one. We're going to come back. We're going to talk about this in more depth. But here's here's a big example of this. The Republican Party for the majority of my life, for the majority of my life, with the exception of the libertarian wing of that party, of which you may be, I'd probably am more in that wing. But with the exception of that wing, the Republican Party has been a global war on terror loving party. We just, we have been, we have been, yes, let's get to Afghanistan. Yes, let's get to Iraq, kill them all, let God sort them out, go everywhere for most of my life, that kind of neoconservative. That's how you describe that way of thinking. That has been the history of the Republican Party for my lifetime. But prior to my lifetime, that would have been the antithesis of everything the Republican Party had traditionally stood for up until that time. The GOP, the GOP for most of its history before that was hands off, gloves off, mind our own business, a much more traditionally American way of thinking. If you're my age, if you're 42, that may come as a shock to you, because that's the only GOP you've ever known. But if you're 70, 80, you saw a different GOP when you were younger. Okay, so the parties change. The Democrat Party, we're going to come back to us, I'm going to get there. The Democrat Party, they're changing to rapidly, for the worse, but they're changing to, as they get more and more radical, the radicals within their party are getting more and more representation, more representation than they used to have. If you went back to, you don't even have to go to ancient history, if you went back to the year 2000, and you went combing through every Democrat, Congressman and Senators staffers, forget about the senators or Congressman themselves, he just went through their staffers. Would you find an admitted Maoist in there somewhere? Probably, you'd find probably an admitted Maoist in there, somebody who loved Karl Marx or something that you would have found one or two in the year 2000, if you went down that list of staffers. If you went down that list of staffers today, you went through every Democrat staff in the Senate in the House of Representatives. You went down that list today, you would find Maoist, after Maoist, after Maoist admitted. We're not talking about just somebody I'm accusing of being admitted. Yeah, I love Mao. Go Lenin. You would find a long, long list of them. Why? Well, let's discuss the why, because this is going to come back to the Republican Party, and this is going to come back to the changes you're seeing now in the Republican Party, whether you love those changes or hate those changes. Why did the Democrat Party change in that way? Why have they gone harder left? You can go look at videotape of Barack Obama standing against gay marriage, like right when he got elected. Today, they're all about kids cutting their penises off. How did that change so fast? We're going to talk about how and then we're going to address the GOP changes. Okay, before we do that, let's talk about some changes that we need to make changes and how we think, because we all want to put money away for retirement. I do. You do. Everyone does. I don't want to work forever. I want to be able to retire one day. But where do you put it with all this volatility? Oh, the bubbles get a pop the dollar every day. There's a new doomsday prediction. What do you put it? 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Ask Dr. Jesse questions for Thursday. Now let's go back because you're just now joining us. We're talking about, okay, so the teamsters president spoke at the convention. A lot of people are mad about it. A young lady who has an adult website still spoke at the convention. Amber Rose, people are upset about it. I haven't really addressed that part specifically yet. I'm getting there, but we're addressing the realignment of the parties right now. So Democrats, they went hard left and really, really fast. And how did that happen? How is going to be important here before we get to the Republican Party? How did they turn into Maoists in the last 30 years? Well, it's all a matter of how they participate in primaries. I know I come back to this again and again and again, but that's really the truth. The truth is the hard cores, the communist wing of the Democrat Party, they care about destroying the country. They care about it a lot. They'll do whatever they have to do to do that. And when primary day comes, they're not watching the game. They're not too busy. They're there and they have succeeded in yanking their party to the left. They go out, they participate in primaries and because they participate in primaries, they have remade the party in their image. The image of the party is being made into the image of its most committed followers. Get that? That's how it works. The most committed Democrats are the ones who are remaking the Democrat Party, which brings us to us. Are you mad that the teamsters spoke, mad that this young lady Amber Rose spoke? I understand that I'm not telling you not to be. I'm really not. First, let's address this electorally. Electorally, and we're going to get to the party platform part of this. Electorally, it's a very sharp move because even if you don't get the teamsters for you, you've denied them to Joe Biden that he was banking on that endorsement. And we're talking about Rust Belt Union heavy swing states, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. Joe Biden might need to clean sweep those states to beat Donald Trump. If you can do things to deny him his voting block, that's smart. That's one. As far as the Amber Rose, they're going to, so let's just talk about the Republican Party. Our party is changing our party. I'm an anti communist. I'm not even a Republican Republican. Republican Party is changing. It is changing. It is not going to look like it did five years ago. It is not going to look like it did 10 years ago. The Republican Party is changing and it is changing in ways you may love. And there's a chance it's changing in ways you may find completely unacceptable after the two parties are done playing their little political musical chairs, which they're playing now. You have to prepare yourself for the possibility that you don't have a major political party that really represents you or your values. That is a real chance. And that doesn't mean you need to change. And I'm not saying the parties need to change. I'm talking about the simple brutal reality of life. Remember, it's not your mommy's show, it's your daddy's show. Here's the truth. If you are a cultural or cultural conservative, you're one of the people really hardcore on the social value stuff, your marriage is between a man and a woman, hugely pro life. When it comes to that, you know, adult lady adult adult website lady, I'm not even sure how I'm supposed to address it here. When it comes to things like that, if that is the kind of thing you are absolutely out on, no on, no, you don't want your kids see, you don't want it to be part of the party. If that's a huge deal for you, then you very likely may be politically homeless going forward. It's not an accident. They remade the Republican party platform. They promptly stripped out anything that had to do with abortion at all. They stripped out anything that had to do with all the LGBTQ stuff at all. These things were just done recently. They have taken the social conservative cultural conservative, however you want to put it, and they have stripped that stuff out of the party platform. Is that a permanent stripping? I don't know, but it looks like that is, at least for the time being the plan for the national GOP. I didn't say it was your plan. I didn't say it should be. But if that is where you fall, if those are big, big deals for you, you might not like where we are going from here. And I don't have, I don't really have something I can tell you now if that's you speaking specifically to you. If that hurts you, if you're sitting there saying, Jesse, I've been a pro-lifer for a long time. I can't support a party like this. Jesse, I'm big on the nuclear family marriage between a man and a woman. If the Republican party is going to go against that, I can't support it. Okay, I'm not, I'm not here to try to turn you into Tom or Tara Republican. I'm not, I'm not here to do that. I'm here to tell you the truth. As far as the Republican party goes, they're not going that direction. They're just not. It's going to be more of a nationalist populist Republican party going forward from here. And for traditional conservatives, if you're one of these people who calls yourself a traditional conservative, there are going to be parts of that you will like, and there are going to be parts of that you will hate you if you're, if you're a traditional hardcore right winger, you're probably going to like the national populist views on things like immigration more than you did than the old GOP. The old GOP was always super squishy and soft and weak and pathetic. When it came to that, a nationalist populist GOP is going to be better when it comes to those things, the poor dumb bill, the wall, things like that. So those things, those things may appeal to you. But if you're a debt conscious person, you know, that's a big thing for me. You care a lot about the debt. Look, there's a chance you're going to be homeless. I don't know whether any of that or all that made you feel better or made you feel worse, but times are a change in, not just for the country, for both political parties. And you, me, we're just going to have to figure it out going forward where we land and all that. Maybe we'll find a soft spot to land. Maybe we will not. All right. All right. I think we have Michael Knowles coming on next. And so that's always a good time to talk to Michael. And then we'll talk a little more about this stuff. I want to get to the Secret Service angle. Before we do that, I want to get to your dog. You see, I don't want your dog to die. My buddy yesterday just had to put his dog down. And I'm in Wisconsin, so I didn't get a chance to be with him, which sucks because that was if there was ever a time your buddy needs pat on the back and a beer, it was that time. But it just brought it all back to me how much it hurts when you're frigging dog dies, man. It just gut you. Rough greens, the all natural nutritional supplement for your dog. The reason I give rough greens to Fred is because I know that that day will come. There's nothing that can stop that Fred's going to die. I want that day to be as far away as humanly possible. Just honestly thinking about the look on my wife's face, my kid's face. I want to hold off on that. Don't you pour rough greens on your dog's food, roughgreens.com/jessie or you can call them 83333 my dog. We'll be back. It is the Jesse Kelly show and I am pleased to welcome. I was about to say here in the studio, but it's more like on the studio. We're performing in front of other people like monkeys in a zoo. Michael Knowles, of course of the Daily Wire, only now apparently he is a tobacco smuggler. Do I have that right? I didn't get all the details beforehand. I want that to go on my tombstone. Here lies Michael Knowles' cigar salesman. I have to ask before we get into politics. What? I know you like to smoke cigars. I knew that's your thing, but wait, what? Jesse, the body is a temple and the temple needs incense. You can get your incense at Mayflowercigarettes.com. I kid you not. Since I was a kid, I started smoking cigars kind of late for an Italian from New York. I started at about 15, though I would never encourage anyone 20 years old, whatever the government tells you. I wrote my college admissions essay about how much I love cigars. I look a bit swarthy, but some of my family was on the Mayflower. That's where we get the company name from. DW decided to back me in it because it didn't cost them any money and they knew we'd sell a zillion cigars. I am really honored to say I want to thank your listeners, maybe many of whom have bought the cigars. It became, I think, the biggest boutique brand cigar launch in the history of tobacco. I'll take it. So which mafia family are you associated with? The Columbus, actually. That's good. We talked about them some last night. That's good. Michael, I opened up the show. I got a bunch of emails. I'm sure you've got a bunch of emails about the different speakers at the convention, the more non-traditional speakers at the convention. They have the teamsters on. You know, Amber Rose is there. And what I tried to explain to people is whether you like it or not, the Democrat party is being remade. Times change, parties change. The Republican party is also being remade. And if you're a more socially conservative socially right-winger, like I definitely am, you may end up finding yourself homeless as we move forward here. That's just the reality of life. Love it or hate it. It's the reality of where we're going. I totally agree with you, in principle. I am a little more hopeful, though. You look at someone like J.D. Vance, who gets picked as the VP. He is a pretty socially conservative candidate. In many ways, I think he and Trump represent not a radical departure from Republican orthodoxy. It's a change from the last 30 years, but in many ways, it's a restoration of the OG Republican orthodoxy. When the party was founded and Abraham Lincoln is our first president, the GOP was pro-tariff. The GOP has been in favor of immigration restriction. The GOP has been skeptical of foreign wars for a lot of its existence. So I think you're seeing some of that comeback. Now, some of the social conservatives, and again, it's hard to be more socially conservative than I am, but they said I hate it that this woman Amber Rose spoke. I had never heard of Amber Rose in my life. I've never heard of her, but look, had she come out and endorsed abortion or something, I would have been quite offended by that. Had she come out and promoted pornography or something, I would have been very offended. What did she say? She said, "Hey, I don't look like a usual GOP voter. I was lied to by the media. I was told he's a racist bad guy, and he's not. He's a good guy. People who look like me, who probably voted for Democrats in the past, they should vote for Trump." And that's all she said. And I thought, what am I supposed to complain about there? Yeah, look, that's what I've been trying to tell, trying to talk people off the ledge with this might be where we're going. And because we are in a general election, I didn't get to this point of it, but now that we're in a general election, there's going to be coalition building that makes the hard cores like us uncomfortable. There is. You're going to have a teamster guy. If the head of the teamsters wants to come speak, you're going to have a teamsters come speak. It's just the way it is. You have to make some friends. You don't necessarily want to make in a general election. Of course. And for Donald Trump to come out and say, "We're not going to talk that much about abortion." I'm very pro-life, and so I like talking about abortion all day. Well, when abortion has been on the ballot in recent years, it hasn't done that well. And so if Donald Trump were to come out and say, "I now support abortion," or something, I would be very offended. I would not support that. But if Trump, who is the most pro-life president in my lifetime, who was the first sitting president to address the march for life, who appointed the judges that overruled Roe v. Wade, if that guy says, "Hey, guys, play it cool until November," and then I'll keep appointing these good judges and we'll keep making progress, I'm going to give him a little grace there. If the president comes out and he says, "Hey, we're going to appeal to labor a little bit. I don't know. We're going to take away taxes on tips or something." I think, "Okay, that's fine. We've spent many multiples, probably orders of magnitude, more money than that would cost the federal government," just sending it to Ukraine over the past two years. So, okay, if you're going to make an outreach to labor, I think that's actually probably politically a pretty good idea. And is it ideologically pure in Milton Friedman-ism of, you know, the GOP platform of 1987? No, maybe not. But folks, it's 2024 and the convention exists to get elected. That's what it's for. It's not the other way around. The candidates don't exist to have a fun party where everyone's ideologically perfect. It exists to bring coalitions together of disparate people who disagree on a lot to win. But conventions are also not very fun. I don't enjoy being at conventions very much. Michael, there are a lot of people here and they want to talk to me. And I'm not talking about people who listen to the show. That's fine. But these dirty politicians, every time you run into one of these senators, he wants to talk, "Do you like it here?" Glad-handing, simpering sociopaths. I actually like them, yes. I sort of get a kick out of them. Although, Jesse, you're clearly, despite what you're saying, you sound like Horace, the ancient poet who said, "Odi Profanum Volgus et Arceo. I hate the common people and I exclude them." You're a man of the people, because look at you. You're surrounded by the Hoipola. You haven't built any big, beautiful walls in your booth like we have at the Daily Wire. Just to let you know, you didn't have to translate that. I speak Mexican pretty fluently. I've been speaking that for quite some time, as everyone who listens to the show knows. Okay, Michael, I have to ask, "How hope for you in this idea of unity?" Not on the right, not talking about the convention where we're all patting each other on the back. Uh-huh, Joe Biden sucks, but nationally, especially in the wake of an assassination attempt. Oh, unity, unite, unite. But just, that doesn't seem realistic to me at all. The values of each side hasn't changed at all. People were upset by a bad video, but the values didn't change. No, I think Biden is going to keep calling Trump Hitler and saying that he poses an existential threat to the Republic. And in so doing, he's going to justify assassinating him as he's been doing for years. And that's unfortunate. You're going to see that from entertainment. You're going to see that from a lot of Democrat politicians. However, I think that the country was uniting before that disastrous debate for Biden. It was uniting in the sense that Biden's poll numbers were not getting any better. Trump was looking like he'd win the general already before that debate. That's why Biden called for the debate. Otherwise, he would have avoided it. So he calls for the debate. He sets conditions that he thought would be totally unacceptable to Trump. Trump wisely just accepted them, didn't even negotiate, destroyed him at the debate. The situation got worse. Then there was the meeting in the Democrat party where people up to, including George Clooney, ostensibly wrote an outfit for the New York Times. And maybe it was Barack Obama who wrote the outfit, some have suggested. But in any case, there was a mutiny they tried to overthrow him. That didn't work. That failed now in the wake of the attempted assassination. That's not going to work anymore. And so I just think that the uniting was already happening around the failures of Biden. Yeah, nothing unites us like that old codger. All right, Michael, before before I let you go, I can't, I can't let you go without hawking your cigars again. That's so true. Please, where do people get these people can go if you are 21 years or older, some exclusions apply, you can go to mayflower cigars.com. We're trying to get into the retail shops, but you know, the government makes it very tricky. For now, mayflower cigars.com, we sell out pretty frequently, but as of now, I think we still have a fair bit of stock. And if you're me, you're to the mayflower dusky. It's the fuller-bodied smoke in the Toro size. Delicious. I don't know what any of those words mean, but that's next. It's next again. I thought so. That sounds fantastic. Michael, thank you, my brother. Thank you, sir. Michael Knowles, everybody, cigar salesman. Now, is there anything I can't to even place instruments to? Gosh, I hate him. You know who I don't hate his tunnel to towers? You know, taking care of widows and orphans were commanded to do that, commanded to do that. That's not it. They didn't say, hey, well, I mean, do it if you feel like it. We're commanded to do that. And there are a lot of different ways you can care for widows and orphans. Tunnel to towers comes alongside these gold star families, these fallen first responder families, and they're building them homes, paying off their homes. They're doing the Lord's work. I don't have another way to put it. 11 bucks a month is what they asked for. For me, for me, 11 bucks a month, you give it automatically. You never know what's gone. Go to tthenumber2t.org, 11 bucks a month. t2t.org. We'll be back. You're listening to the oracle. Jesse Kelly show, and I am pleased to welcome right here on the set the president, the big cheese and heritage and the man responsible for that dastardly project 2025. Kevin Roberts. Okay, Kevin, I just, I have to ask, how big does the smile get every time you hear one of the dirty commies complaining about project 2025, giving you all the good publicity in the world? I've battled the radical left my entire career. I've been the only conservative on faculties. As you know, Jesse, so it's a lot of fun. And I'll tell you this, I think you'll appreciate it. The left has spent far more millions of dollars mischaracterizing project 2025 than it's cost us to actually produce it. And so I think it's a great return on investment. You're not you're not catching flack unless you over the target. And so we're gonna keep talking about it. I was all here it is. I was looking forward, as you were talking, I get emails like this all the time. Jesse, I've seen several times news articles saying 2025 project 2025 is a disaster. Can you tell us what it is? And why are the Dems so against it? And this is from a Wendy. And I figure I might as well just toss this one to the man responsible for what is this scary project? Well, thanks Wendy for the question. What it is is a corrective to 50 plus years of the radical left taken over the federal government. The whole objective of project 2025 is to dismantle the administrative state, which I happen to think at least domestically is the greatest existential threat to freedom and sovereignty for everyday Americans. You talk about this on your show every day. But when you get into the details of it, and this is what I always want to give people some information that they can use with conversations with friend, my uncle, in fact, is a great listener of your show. Very dedicated. Ask me said, Kevin, give me some information. Just go to project 2025.org. Don't try to read the whole thing. It's 920 pages. But find that issue that policy area that you're interested in. For me, it would be education. And just go read the little bit on education. And once you're done reading it, ask yourself, is anything the left have said has said about this project? Correct. No, they have mischaracterized 98% of what they said. The only thing that they get right is that we do want to eliminate the Department of Education. Yes, that's maybe my favorite part of the whole thing. Okay, so tell me about this database, this database where people can go, put in their resume. What's this all about? Well, that's actually the most important part of the project this time around. Real quick history, and then I'll answer your question directly. Heritage has been doing this since 1980, prepping President Reagan with policies and personnel. This time we did something, two things differently. The first thing we did is we took the heritage logo off the project, because we wanted it to represent the entire conservative movement. We've got 110 organizations that are part of this representing basically 40 million voters. But on the personnel database to your question, what we have done is recruit all around the country, competent professionals who want to come tithe to this Republic. Two years, four years, more than that, we were hoping we would get 10,000 people to be in that database. And then the President's transition team gets to decide who they hire. I mean, they're the decision makers. We have 15,000, 3,000 of whom just in the last 10 days have applied because of all the left mischaracterization about it. But it's telly is America's hungry for change. You obviously come from education and something you talk about, it's something you're hot on you and I've talked about it on the air many times before. I say it's the most damaging thing the commies ever took over in this country that you can be a normal American. It's not even not even some hardcore far lefter. And you can go K through 12 and then go to college and you can come out a complete nutball because of what they've done in the education system. And parents are getting it more now than they ever have. And I find that encouraging at least. Yeah, I cannot count. I mean, literally cannot count the hundreds of times in the last decade. People have told me friends of heritage, friends of other nonprofits have led that their parents are their kids or their grandkids when they went to college within a year, sometimes within a semester had gone from being common sense kind of conservative kids to being totally radicalized. What Project 2025 along with all of these other efforts at the grassroots are focused on is taking back those institutions of education. I happen to think that those of us who are home schooling, those of us who have our kids and charter schools and private schools have created an environment in which the government funded schools have to respond. But unless there is institutional policy change at the federal level, whether it is a total elimination of the Department of Education or a massive change in how we fund universities, we're not going to stop this problem of kids and grandkids coming home for Thanksgiving dinner. And they are sounding a lot differently because professors have indoctrinated. Can you talk about the funding of universities? This is one of those things because it gets confusing and it's not sexy on the campaign trail. It doesn't get a lot of play in political elections, but these universities that are poisoning these young minds are oftentimes funded with at least in part our own money. Yeah, and that's that's the dirty little secret. Although it's all about out there in the open actually in Project 2025 if you want to read about it. So at the very least and praise God President Trump has been very explicit about this in the last weeks, I would expect that the next Trump administration will have a Secretary of Education, whoever that may be, who's going to be focused on giving more control to the states over the funding of these universities. The reason this is important and I know I've gone to like one level of detail in the policy. The detail is important. You have governors like Ron DeSantis in Florida who've taken on those universities and saying you're no longer going to use our money to indoctrinate our kids. If you're going to get our money whether it's state money or federal money, you have to reflect at the very least that this is a neutral platform. We have used a trillion dollars since 1979. That's so much we've spent on the U.S. Department of Education to indoctrinate two generations of Americans. Can you explain why that kind of thing happens so often in Florida? Florida's not the only red state we have in the union and by the numbers, it's not even actually the reddest state we have in the union. And I know Ron DeSantis gets a lot of credit for that. But how is this not more of a thing? Look, I live in Texas. I love living in Texas. Don't get wrong. I love the food. I like the people. Our GOP sucks. We don't get tangible things like this done as much as freaking Florida does. Why is this not a thing in every red state? I'll use the Texas example. I'm an alumnus of the University of Texas, one of the most politically liberal universities in the country. I somehow went in as a conservative and left as a conservative. But it is emblematic of the problem, not just in Texas, but in other red states. What happens is a large percentage of legislators, members of the legislature, are graduates of these schools and they try to protect the institution. And they ignore, actually, I will give some of them the benefit of the doubt. They ignore how bad the politics have become. But I'll tell you one silver lining to these pro Hamas protests, Jesse, even at my alma mater, the University of Texas, it has caused the president and the boards of those schools and the governor to say enough is enough. Oh, praise God for that. Kevin Roberts, where can people get more info on this project 2025 again? Because I get emails every day about it. What is this scary thing? And where do they go? Project 2025.org. You can see the policies there. You can also sign up to be part of the next administration, if the president so choose. Appreciate you very much. Thanks, brother. Thank you. You bet. All right. We still have an hour and we will never have two hours. I just lied. It's time to talk about why don't why don't these people resign? Head of secret service comes out. She's not going to resign. They're not going to resign. This general doesn't resign. This person doesn't resign. Why is that a problem now? Why don't they don't they have the honor? Why doesn't anybody fire them? And actually, it's going to tie right back into something that Kevin was just talking about when it comes to institutions and what institutions turn into over a long enough period of time. This has been a podcast from WOR.