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Just go to indeed.com/bluewire right now and support our show by saying that you heard about Indeed on this podcast, that's indeed.com/bluewire, terms and conditions applied. And to hire, you need Indeed. Yeah thanks for having me on again, I'm doing well, I hope it off season, good little spring ball and I'm excited to get in the training camp. Daniel I want to ask you a little question just because I know you're coming from the West Coast, coming out from the Vegas area, we take a lot of pride here in our food. Have you had any Jersey pizza or bagels yet? What type of food have you come to love here on the East Coast? Yeah, I have to say first and foremost the bagels, there's nothing like I've had bagels all over the West Coast and they don't compare to out here, it's like the way they make them and the different ways you can add stuff to them, it's definitely the bagels I'd say is my favorite. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Have you had a chance to buy any chance, check out the Jersey Shore at all. Has Daniel Bellinger made a DJ's appearance yet? It was my first time this previous Friday, it was my first time down there actually. Oh yeah, it was a good time too, yeah, don't worry, yeah. Nice. Did you check out Bar A, DJs any of those spots? DJ's and then there was a place called Jenks I think. Yeah, Jenks. Nice. DJ's was quite the experience, am I right? Yeah, oh yeah, there's a lot of people in there, but it was a good time. Yeah man. All right, so obviously the offense has changed a lot from last season, Giants have added reinforcements to the offensive line, Malik neighbors to the roster, Darrywall are retired to take one Barkley moving on to the Eagles. We're looking for what we've been talking about a lot this offseason, we saw little spurts of it last year, middle end of the season is some more verticality to the offense. We saw some examples of you getting open, this is something we talk about a lot on the podcast on film. There was a whole shot, I think we'll bring it up at some point from the, I think it was the Raiders game where DeVito hit you on. Is there a chance this year with the offense kind of offensive line taking a step forward? We can see more of utilization of you up the seam, you know, splitting the safeties, causing problems in that intermediate vertical area of the field. Yeah, I mean, absolutely like these level concepts right here, something that we want to get to a lot. And of course with neighbors and Jalen's speed and these other guys that have a lot of speed with slay, you know, being able to stretch the defense is something that Dave's really likes to do and something that I think we want to attack. And of course, like you said, last year there was a lot of, a lot of ups and downs with injuries and guys rotating in and out, so it was kind of tough to be consistent. But I think with us being more consistent will make us make us a better offense. Speaking of Malik neighbors, what are your early impressions of him in camp? Specifically, what are some traits that you've seen him display that are like, man, this guy really could be a different type of football player? Yeah, I mean, just just watching the first couple of practices, you know, he's very, very talented. You know, he's got the speed and the quickness and the route running and the hands and and overall he's just a really good player and I think he's going to, he's going to definitely definitely keep defenses on their on their heels and definitely have to make sure they watch him and be able to take some guys off of off of us, which is nice for, for, you know, the tight end room. But no, overall he's a great player and just just from the first, you know, spring practice that I've had with him, it's he's going to be a good player for us. Yeah, we're all really excited about that. I want to talk to you a little bit about some of what we saw last year. Nick and I discussed this a lot. The Seahawks game on Monday night last year, we felt like, you know, it was a good example of when you went down with the injury, we, the Giants were really in a tough spot from a tight end standpoint and really altered the game plan in that sense. Now we talk a lot about the blocking in the passing game. I want to know about the blocking in the run game as a tight end because you're going to have a different style running back in with Saquan Barkley going to Devon Singletary potentially is the lead maybe Tyrone Tracy, how does it as a tight end? Is there a different style like when they're running back has a different style of running the football, pacing, mind, language, things of that nature, do you have to alter your blocking or is it kind of the same? I mean, not necessarily, obviously with a guy like Saquan, you know, he makes it a lot easier because if you say you don't have the best block or the best leverage, you know, he can make you right. But the turning backs we have now with Devon, they're great guys, you know what I mean? I think they can fill that role that we need. And I think that, you know, obviously, Saquan being the player he is, it's tough to lose him. But the running backs we have, you know, they're smart, shifty guys and I don't think it necessarily changes our blocking scheme, anything like that. I just think that it puts a onus on us and the O line that, you know, move guys off the line of scrimmage and be more physical and, you know, we kind of need to take that step anyway with or without Saquan. So, you know, I think us being able to move the line of scrimmage and holding our own and the leverage that we need at the line of scrimmage will help us no matter who's holding the rock. Last year before training camp, tight end coach Andy Bischoff who is now with the Chargers stated that you were leaps and bounds ahead of where you were from your rookie season. That's no surprise, but we want to ask what is something specific that you learned and apply to your game during your second season? Yeah, specifically, I'd say this season is honestly the confidence just going into games and confidence. You know, I'm going to communicate with my O line and quarterbacks because, you know, my rookie here, you know, every rookie I tell you, it's, you know, some guys are a little different. But most rookies they'll go in and it's not, you know, you're just trying to learn the playbook, trying to learn the schemes and everything like that. And in the second year, it's kind of, okay, now I know the playbook. I know the schemes. I need to focus on my game. And of course, you have to focus on your game each year. But for me, this third year, it's really just confidence. I think my confidence going into going into practices, going into games and being able to communicate with the O line and be able to say, like, hey, I need to do this to get here or a DJ, where do you need me here? I'm going to be in this spot right here. This is what you want. Let me know. I have the confidence to kind of communicate certain things that, you know, first and second year guys are more operative to communicate. I would say is definitely the biggest step I've taken. One thing I want to discuss with you, Daniel, as I know in the off season, you like to, you do a lot of extra work with players and tight, for example, tight on you, which we might talk about in a second. But one thing I heard is that you worked with Sam Laporta in Southern Cal this off season. You talk a little bit about what you guys may have learned working with each other and like what specific areas of game you were working on during that time. Yeah, I just, you know, a great opportunity to work with him. We both got with the same guy in San Diego and, you know, being able to discuss with him just how he, you know, as a rookie and I was a rookie and kind of just discuss like how we saw things as a young perspective because, you know, when I talked to George and Kelsey, it's like, okay, these guys are eight, nine, 10 years in the league. Okay. Their perspective is obviously important, but it's a little different than when you're just now getting into the league. So I think the biggest thing that I worked with Sam was like, Sam, like how are you approaching these games? Like how do you guys approach it as Detroit Lions like compared to how we approach the games and basically just kind of seeing how he likes to attack different offenses and it's different from how Kelsey likes to approach it because, you know, him and my homes have a different kind of different thing than what we and DJ have and what him and a golf have and it's like, well, listen, like, like Sam, like how do you coming up to the line, like what, what are you seeing and then how are you approaching it and then taking my point of view and being, okay, now I can see how you do it, compared to how I do it and kind of mix match the games, I guess is how, is how we kind of like to talk about it. Collecting as much knowledge as possible. The giant fans are going to love to hear that. We're driven by the search for better, but when it comes to hiring, the best way to search for a candidate isn't to search at all. Don't search match with Indeed. 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You talk to guys like Dallas Clark and Greg Olson who are just football fanatics and love to just take a talk of your ear off about the game 24/7 if you'd like. For a guy like me, I think that's huge because it's not just like, obviously you have to physically do it, but being able to see and hear it from them and how they approach it is after night and day compared to some places you're at. Just being able to have the opportunity to really wash the film with them, I think, is the best art because we get into the film room and the school and then we get on the field. And the field is important, but I think the most important aspect is when we get in the film room and we get to see how they approach film and how different offenses like to do different things, but we're able to see how Kelsey, how he's evaluating film and how he's evaluating the coverage and then this year, George got to go up there and talk about a little bit more past protection, which I thought was helpful because I was a little bit in more past protection last year and so listening to him and how he talks about technique and stuff I thought was very helpful. That's really interesting, Daniel, I didn't even, you know, just thinking about the different ways that kind of the proven veterans have looked at the film, interpret film and I thought it was interesting that you mentioned that you were in past protection last year. We're hoping that that might change a little bit this year with the upgrade on the offensive line. General health, more health on the offensive line, but there are a lot of different faces in the tight end room this year. Theo Johnson was added via the draft, Jack Stahl, Chris Mann, Hertz, these are proven blockers, guys at the line as you can win. I'm excited to see what the Giants do a little bit more 12 personnel, maybe something maybe we saw in your rookie season, which was, you know, usage of you as kind of an H back and they found a lot, we found a lot of success with that, you know, Vikings game things that nature. What's kind of your early impressions on the three new guys in the tight end room? Yeah, I like him a lot. You know, Theo first, he's a young guy, but, you know, he's coming in and he's not taking any, any, any backseat when he's coming in and he's being, he's being a real dude and I really appreciate that because it just makes, makes the tight end room better and it makes the team better. So, really, I like, I feel a lot, you know, he's learning as he goes and of course, Chris and Jack, they're, they're definitely, definitely some veterans that have some experience behind him, especially Chris, you know, just talking about how he, you know, he loves the run game, you know, he's not, I wouldn't say he's, he's shying away from the pass game, but you know, he's definitely very passionate about the run game and then Jack, you know, I love Jack. He's a good dude and, and me and him, me and him, like to hang out, hang out a lot off the field. So, he was with me a tight end to you. So, it's always good hanging out with these guys and I think they, they're going to help our team. So, Daniel, for years, I've said Chris Mann hurts. His last name is very apt because that dude hurts some men out there on the line. Dude, yeah. Dude loves to block. I think like two or three years ago on the podcast that when he was a free agent, I was like, I hope the Giants go out and get this Chris Mann hurts, guys, so he can block on the line of scrimmage, but speaking specifically on the tight end room, former Parton's offensive coordinator, Tim Kelly is now the tight ends coach for the Giants. Always coach Kelly and have you been able to develop a relationship with your new positional coach? Yeah. Yeah. Coach Kelly is a good dude. You know, coming from the OC role, you know, he has, I feel like a lot more knowledge in the past game and kind of like the whole overall scheme of our offense. And I think that that's beneficial for myself going into year three and really anybody in the tight end room, just because before, you know, I think a lot of tight end rooms could attest to it, but really we're just focused on our job and how we can, you know, how, what are we going to do for this past protection? Are we going to do for this run play or how are we going to go on this past? But I think Tim Kelly brings this perspective of, you know, an OC perspective that, hey, you need to understand why we're doing this past protection or what the running backs doing on this play so it can help us get open on the next play. And, you know, he kind of gives us the overall perspective of the whole offense. So we understand why we're doing something instead of just going out and doing it. That's awesome. And I think Giants fans are really excited for that. It seems like they've got a really good group of positional coaches and so could really make a big difference, Daniel. I wanted to ask you something about your first two scenes, the NFL. So you've had 63 targets so far through two seasons and an 87.9% catch rate. I mean, that's the best out of 45 tight ends who have at least 60 targets within that time span. Is there anything specific specific you can attribute that success to? Nothing specific. I mean, to me, you know, I try not to look at that. I just try to look at what did I do when I got the ball, you know, I need to finish more first down, you know, score the ball more, you know, so, you know, obviously I'm proud of that fact, but I just think that I can take it up another step outside. Getting up to 100% Daniel, no jobs at all going to catch everything. All right, Daniel, unfortunately, last year, there were quite a few quarterbacks who played for the New York Giants. What was it like catching passes from all three of the quarterbacks, DeVito, Tyrod Taylor and Daniel Jones? Is there an adjustment from a rapport standpoint timing? How is it in a pre-snap standpoint? What are those differences? Yeah, I mean, any receiver or title, I'll tell you that there's definitely timing and, you know, even when it comes down to like the cadence, you know, there's always going to be a little bit of a difference, but that's just, you know, I think every team at one point faces that, you know, unfortunately, we have to face it a little bit more than other teams. But yeah, it's definitely something that you just work on and it takes a little bit to adjust to. And so, yeah, I think that's something that we need to do better at as a team. I think we just sometimes when some of that stuff happened, we kind of didn't really adjust to it as we needed to. Interesting. And speaking of kind of the timing and rapport, we've been, you know, we've heard that the Giants offense, the system under Brian Dable and Mike Kafka has choice routes has thing. It's a little bit more difficult to pick up for receivers or tight ends. Is there a point in your rookie season where you felt like you picked it up from a mental standpoint? Is that still something that's kind of evolving for you? Oh, I mean, I think, I think those kind of, those kind of route concepts are always evolving, you know, with the defensive show with us and how we're trying to approach it is always going to be a little different. But I do think that, you know, coming in as a rookie, especially to now is something that I've picked up and, you know, a lot of these guys have picked up and, which is, I think they'll make us even a step better because now we, we kind of understand what, how coach sees what he wants us to do. And of course, like I said, you know, whatever, the defense is, you know, they're always evolving, so we always got to evolve as well. But we've definitely taken, taken strides in those kind of option routes and those kind of things that coach wants us to do. Daniel, Dan Waller has now retired. I just want to ask you, what did you learn from Dan Waller his time here in New York and what was your relationship with Dan Waller? Yeah, I love Dan. He was a great teammate, great guy, you know, I know we talked about him a little bit last year too, but he was always a great, great teammate to me and everybody else in the building. But you know, I learned a lot from him and like I said, I think the biggest things I've learned from him wasn't necessarily on the field. I think off the field, how he approaches his, you know, his kind of, his ability to re get right for the game, I guess, mentally was, was something that, you know, was a little different than what I've noticed. But you know, I really appreciated just how he kind of just gave us his, you know, his thoughts about the game and how he approached routes and just different things that, you know, you know, he's just, he was one, one of a kind, kind of a unicorn guy when it came to athleticism. And I think he knew that. So when he, when it was like, hey, Dan, what did you do here? You know, instead of him just kind of being like, Oh, well, I just beat him with speed, you know, it's like, instead of just giving us like the, the athletic answer, which he could have done, you know, he gave us real life answers and he really kind of put us in the perspective of his mind and how he approached the game. And I think that's, that's what I'll take away from him and I appreciate it from them. Daniel, I saw recently, I think on social media that you visited the JFK Knights football team in Patterson. Can you talk a little bit about that experience and what it's like to kind of get involved in the community here in New Jersey? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I had a, I had about six grand left and it's Nike deal I had and, you know, I, you know, I don't really need any more shoes or anything like that. So you know, I kind of reached out to Ethan, our team, I was like, Hey, listen, like, what's the team that kind of really needs, needs something that can give him a little bit of a boost or something that, you know, give him a little bit more of something else instead of just, you know, what they have going on right now. And you know, he reached out to the Knights and was telling me how, you know, they weren't doing the best the last few years. And I was like, yeah, let me, let's, let's give them as many shoes and cleans, whatever they need. And so I was able to, we able to get a bunch of cleans for them and donate to them, um, and get them to get out there to one of our practices. And, you know, I thought it was, it was really important because now they know that there's support outside of, of their lives. And there's, there's people that, that have played the game and there's such an importance to the game of football that has given not just myself, there's so many other people so much that it's nice to be able to be like, Hey, like, this game can give you guys just as much. If you put in the work, if you put in the effort, um, you know, even, even if something is small, it's donating some cleats can help a kid be like, you know what, I do have an opportunity, even if I don't think I do, but it gives them hope, I guess, and I, and I think that's, I think that's the most important part of like community and, and giving back to the community. Absolutely love to hear that. Benevolent Bellinger. That should be your nickname right now. Got to ask Daniel, what is one area of your game you'd like to see evolve in 2024? Yeah, pass game, pass game, pass game, pass game, I think, you know, I feel so ready to kind of open up and, and, you know, give more to the Giants and give more to the team. And so I think that's something that I've been focused on and trying to, trying to evolve and trying to pick up because I just know that, I know Dave's wants to do it. I know us as an offense could be so much, so much more dangerous, um, if we can open that up some more. So that's something that I definitely want to take a step out. Yeah, we're excited to see it as well, Daniel, I think, you know, potentially depending on what happens with the play calling situation, it might be a new play caller in there and just going back to some of what we saw in Buffalo, a more vertically oriented pass attack. And I want to talk a little bit about kind of the new feel for the team as we, as we just got through OTAs and mini camp, Jalen Hyatt, second receiver said that this is a play off team and you get the feel that's a playoff team in practice. And I think if you look at this a little bit deeper, it's like Giants won six games last year despite what I would consider probably the most unlucky situation on the offensive line that I've ever really seen from an injury standpoint and three different quarterbacks, which we mentioned. Obviously those things we hope to be more solidified this year, unless that little better injury luck. Does this get the, do you guys feel like there's a different, you know, you know, level of talent on the team, maybe or even just a different feel for the team through OTAs and mini camp? Yeah, I just, I feel like we're like a closer team, you know, going through spring, spring ball and everything. I just feel like we've kind of taken a step off the field and kind of become a closer team. And, you know, obviously having my rookie year and going to playoffs last year, you know, kind of ups and downs, I thought those type of things can, can bring a team together. And it's like just, just meshing with these guys now and kind of picking each other's brain and where we can be and where we want to be. I definitely think we can get there. I think, I definitely think we're taking steps in the right direction to get there. Obviously we still have a lot of work to do. And, you know, training camp is going to definitely be, be very important for us to take those steps. But I'm, I'm excited and I think, I think he's a hundred percent right. I think we can take, we're taking those steps to get there. What have been your impressions, Daniel, of Drew Lottock since he's become a New York giant? Oh, Cheers, a great dude. You know, he's come in and he's like, he doesn't care. He just wants to compete and play football and make the team better. And I think, I think that's, I think that's appreciated from him. You know, he's come in, he's like, I thought it was like DJ's got it. I just want to come in and compete and make the team better. And I think that's what he's done, you know, in OTAs and spring ball, you know, he's been playing well and being, being a great dude to us and great teammates, everybody around him. And so I think he's, he's just a great guy to be on the team and I'm happy to have him. Do you have any early impressions, Daniel, on the offensive line and how, and how it's coming together? A lot of Giants fans are obviously focused on this. And a tough run for the Giants in the offensive line over the last maybe decade as, as fans of the steam. But, you know, it seems like they're heading the right direction and just overall a lot more talent added and hopefully better health. Yeah. I mean, it's tough to say your OTAs, you know, pads on them, all that stuff, but just from early impressions, I think that we got a bunch of leaders on the, on the O line, you know, a bunch of guys that are, are vocal and ready to communicate and work through a lot of the problems that we've had in the past. And I think one of the biggest problems is just straight up communication, you know, being able to have, you know, having different guys in there and get into a game and new guys in there in the fourth quarter, it's like, Hey, like, what, what's going on? You know, so I think with, with the leadership we have in the O line room, I think that's the biggest step is now we can have those moments and be able to communicate it, work through it and make sure we're all on the same page. And so just some early impressions, I think the overall leadership and the confidence of the O line room has been, has been greatly improved and I'm excited to see where our guys go. Your answer to this question last year was Hassan Redick, who was no longer in the division. So let's remove him from the equation. But who was Daniel Bellinger's most difficult blocking assignment last season? Well, last season, I'd probably have to say Nick Bosa, I think that both of others are a little bit different than, than, than what, than what's means to, I mean, even when looking at them, oh my God, this guy's a beast. I would say, I would say Nick Bosa is definitely, definitely up there. And then I'm excited to see what, because I think we face Mike Miles Garrett, this next year. So I'm excited to see about that. I have this play pulled up, Daniel. It's just you blocking or maybe I should say eliminating three Dallas defenders. So I just kind of wanted to run this while maybe we ask one more question. But I actually wanted to ask you this too, if I may, you have Michael Parsons aligned directly over top of you, probably an intimidating assignment, I would imagine. Right. And you're able to shade to his outside, get your inside shoulder on him and then locate 33, eliminate 33, which then eliminates 44. This is an exceptional block that's among like a 20 something yard run by sake, Juan Barkley. But what's going through your head when you have Michael Parsons aligned, you know, you need to get outside of him to eliminate him from the play and then locate that near sideline back. So there's definitely a little bit more, you know, pep in your step when you got Michael having a tight nine or a six tech on you, and you got to, you know, you got to reach him. So I just, you know, definitely pumped up with plays like this. But I think, I think at this time in the game, I think we were down. So my, my, me personally, I was kind of in a pissed off mindset. And I was like, man, I don't care who's in front of me, I gotta make sure I was kind of, I remember, I remember this moment, I was kind of being a little upset and I was like, I don't care if it's him or Joe schmoke down the street, I got to make sure that's from my mindset was on that place specifically. But yeah, every time you have Michael, you got to be, you got to be ready. Yeah, it's an awesome mentality. Yeah, go ahead, Nick. Yeah, I just got one more quick question, Daniel. We're going to get you added. Thank you so much for your time. But we opened the show talking about food. So Tommy DeVito, have you had his mother's chicken cutlets yet the questions we got to ask you, Daniel, how do you hard-hitting questions here and come? I haven't had them yet. I haven't had them yet. And I'm disappointed to say that because, you know, obviously they're, they're pretty good. So I got to, I got to give my boy and char those, but I'll let you know once I have them. That's awesome, Daniel. Thank you so much for taking the time. We've in the past been accused by water to people in the comments of being Daniel Bell and your truthers. But if you watch the tape and you see what we just put up, plays like that against the Cowboys, it's obvious to see why when you actually take the time and watch the tape. So we're excited to have you back for year, for year three and we're excited to see what this offense is going to evolve into because a little bit more verticality and passing game is going to help us go a long way and scoring points and win games. So thanks again. Good luck on the rest of your off season. We're looking forward to watching and training camp. Absolutely, man. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. We're driven by the search for better, but when it comes to hiring, the best way to search for a candidate isn't to search at all. Don't search match with Indeed. Indeed, is your matching and hiring platform with over 350 million global monthly visitors, according to Indeed data, and a matching engine that helps you find quality candidates fast. 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