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The 10mm Experiment Continues!

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48m
Broadcast on:
10 Jul 2024
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This week  we update the ultimate bear defense gun, the Rock Island Armory 10mm Commander length. Also, some more thoughts on the idea of a “GET OFF ME!” gun.

MichaelBane.TV - On the Radio episode # 228. Scroll down for reference links on topics discussed in this episode.

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Host: Michael Bane Producer: Flying Dragon Ltd.

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Rock Island Armory 10mm Pistols

Trijicon RMRcc

Vulcan Machine Werks

XS Sights

Magnum Research Switchbolt .22 Rifles

North American Arms Revolvers

The Pew Pew Jew/Yehuda Remer

Auschwitz-Birkenau

The Music of the Holocaust

Mordechai Gebirtig

The Music of Kyle Cox

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(upbeat music) ♪ She gives me lovin' like I ain't ever had ♪ ♪ They toss me to the curb like a dirty dish rack ♪ ♪ Say boys, it's a juice, work to squeeze ♪ ♪ Every night she makes me feel like a king ♪ ♪ They treat me like a dog the very next morning ♪ ♪ Tell me boys, what you think is a juice ♪ ♪ Work to squeeze ♪ ♪ Every time I see her ♪ ♪ I tell myself I'm through ♪ ♪ But I got this itch just won't go away ♪ ♪ She's right to this like no one else knew ♪ ♪ She got the goods that make my head spin turn ♪ ♪ But I know what I'm playin' with ♪ ♪ 'Cause I keep gin' by no telephone ♪ ♪ What you think is a juice, work to squeeze ♪ - And now, from the secret hidden bunker in the Rocky Mountains, it's time for MBTV on the radio and your host, Michael Bain. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) ♪ Every time I see her ♪ ♪ That's where things gotta change ♪ ♪ But no matter how hard I try ♪ ♪ I just can't stay away from the question ♪ - Okay, there's a little bit from Texas Jazz Man, Kyle Cox called "Worth the Squeeze." And that's maybe like out and an entire zen thought there is what is worth the squeeze these days. I am Michael Bain, this is MBTV on the radio. Brought to you this week, of course, by our friends at MTM Case Guard. MTM believes that a great day at the range or out hunting starts with having the right equipment. In 1968, family owned MTM Case Guard dedicated itself to fulfilling those needs. From shooting tables to ammo storage, MTM has you covered. And of course, hunters' HD gold shooting glasses, they change, so you don't have to. I'm actually gonna go down and see the plant down in Birmingham, where they make these shooting glasses. When I go down later this year for the Rimfire Challenge Shooting Association. Gosh, I just mentioned MBTV on the radio, 20 years old, multiple award-winning podcast. And I'm sort of, you know, kind of at a loss this week, you know? It was the long weekend, the Independence Day weekend, and it had a great time. It was also my sweeties and my 32nd anniversary. And I think, I might have mentioned this. We went to Hoppe, Hoppe Sushi down in Boulder, yeah. And it's like a Hawaiian chain or the companies out of Hawaii. They have some really fascinating sushi rolls, some of the best sushi I've ever had in my life. And believe me, I've had a lot of sushi in my life. Oh gosh. But it's been kind of a lower-key weekend. You know, I finished some gun stuff. I actually did get some shooting in yesterday. Interestingly enough, my sweetie would like to go to a cowboy match again. It's been, oh, six, seven years since we did a cowboy match. So we think we may be going to a cowboy match sometime in the next couple of weeks, which means we had to kind of fish out some cowboy guns. What are you gonna do? Make sure everything works. Mostly make sure your head works, 'cause it's kind of a different feel. Shot a lot of double action revolvers, shot a lot of semi-action, semi-automatics. But I have not spent a huge amount of time with single action revolvers. As far as the rifle, I'm cool. Gosh, over the last few years, I've shot so much with a lever action rifle. I'm really still 100% comfortable with it. And, but the single action revolver, I didn't want to put some work into. And before I go to 44 Russian, that's which my plan is just to shoot some 44 Russian. But I would really prefer not to completely and totally humiliate myself yet. So I'm going back to my old basic cowboy setup, which is two Ruger Vercaro. So it was years back, decades back, Ruger made a set with the SaaS single action, shooting society logo on it. That has long since worn off. But those 238, 35, 738 Vercaros have been work horses for me over the years. They've been shot a lot. And so got them out, got out my leather rig and kind of ran through everything. And I'm pretty pleased, pretty pleased. Took me a couple of times. It's easy sometimes when you've done a bunch of other guns, you come back to a very specific type, go say a single action revolver and it demands certain things from you, especially when you're transitioning, typically in cowboy, I started out like so many people with a cross draw, the left hand cross draw and the draw with that right hand. And you had to do a little dance and sing a little song, do a little dance, get down tonight to not sweep somebody with a gun. And eventually I went back to just two guns and two holsters. Ted Blocker leather built my rig, and a rig that I used for years and years and years. And, but there's a real specific draw out of the left hand holster. You're not actually drawing the gun to shoot it. You're sort of gripping the gun in such a way to transfer it to your right hand to shoot. And then you'll of course transfer back to the left hand to holster. And it takes a little getting used to. I've been kind of practicing that dry fire, but once I got out on the range and started pulling the trigger, I felt really, really good about it. And so I'm gonna be putting some time into that as well. It's kind of fun. Yeah, I have other events coming up. Hopefully everything is in line now, I'll be at what thunder stick, the shotgun training event, that'll be, oh, sometime, everything's later in the year. You know, everything's later in the year. I think thunder sticks somewhere like second week. October and the Pat Rogers Revolver Memorial Roundup there. That's a November event. As you know, at some point in November, December, I'm gonna be down in Texas hunting a Neil Gay with surprise, surprise, lever action rifle in 1895. And now I'll be at gun sight doing some training once. I have a done to gun sight training this year, looking forward to getting out there and doing it. So that'll be fun, you know, a lot of stuff going on and basically, you know, what's going on here. Yeah, I started working a little bit on the upgrading of the Ruger Precision Rifle. I have a first gen Ruger Precision Rifle 308, just when it came out, you know, and really changed the entire precision rifle market. And I'm in the process of converting it to six millimeter Creedmoor. A specific reason for six millimeter Creedmoor is there's a lot of factory ammunition for it. And I would kind of like to stick with that. Otherwise, what's definitely in the house that's under works, you know, you saw last week on triggered, the kind of what I think of as a working man's custom 1911, a thesis, a thesis nine millimeter, as redone by Ed Brown as fitted by C&H Precision for a shield red dot sight. And I just got back the second slide that I'm working on. This is a rock island armory project, which I really, yeah, started like a year ago and it's taking me a while to figure out how to do it and then finding somebody to do it the way I want. So the idea is I believe and I, you know, I wouldn't swear this, but I believe rock island is the only company that makes a commander link 10 millimeter. And it's part of their TAC ultra series, a very nice gun. And so I thought, well, you know, 10 millimeter red dot sight on a 10 millimeter is kind of a crapshoot. My other rock island 10 millimeter, which as you guys know, I had built up years ago, it's a hunting gun and it has a frame-mounted aim point on it. And so, you know, the fixtures is much like you see in a USPSA open gun where there's the optics mount is the optics mount is bolted to the slide. And that makes for a very stable mount, easy to track, but that particular gun, it's a ground up hunting gun. It's like, what, 15 shot higher capacity, 10 millimeter that, ah, six inch long barrel. It's a really great gun. It shoots great, it's the one that's spatter coated. Sean McSheedy, spatter coated, the gun in Cerakote, but it is a great gun, a great hunting gun. And, but there's always so much about, well, it carried the back country, a 10 millimeter is, you know, sort of like a laser rocket, it's sort of like an advanced missile. It kind of shoots out of the air and, you know, it can stop a train and everything. But I thought, I would like the idea, I like the idea of a 10 millimeter commander. So I got the rock island gun and started shooting it and I kind of liked it. You know, it's got a rail and it's kind of beefed up a little bit and there's enough weight on it that it's not horribly obnoxious unless you fish around in my ammo room and pull out some of the, the nuclear 10 millimeter, but it's always a craft shoot with a red dot at a 10 millimeter, some work really well, some don't. So I talked, I think it's Vulcan machining, dude had a lot of luck doing that. So obviously it's not a series 80 or anything like that. 1911, where you've got, you know, some sort of trigger disconnector coming down through the slide, it's just plain old series, 70 gun as God and John Browning intended. So I decided to mount a Trigicon RMRCC, which to me, the Trig series and of course the aim points are the two toughest series of red dot sites available. I mean, they're just tough. And the small size, the Trigicon waited years to do the smaller size CC that would fit on say, you know, the standard is like Glock 43, you know, or SIG 365, whichever. But when they did come out with the CC, it's a special drill on it. But the advantage and is it fits perfectly on a 1911 slide? I know that, you know, we're not supposed to totally like sink into aesthetics. But the Trigicon RMRCC mounted on a 1911 slide looks organic, it looks like it grew there. It's a really, really neat setup. I also wanted to try something, I talked this over with my friend Monty Long in excess sites at the NRA show. And what I wanted to do is have, if this was gonna be a back country gun, it needs backup irons on it. And that's a little bit harder when you get into the 1911 platform to have backup irons. A lot of sites, like you'll see on the, kind of the working man's 1911 triggered that was on last week, you'll see, or is it this week? Oh, it's last week, ah. You know, you'll see that a lot of the smaller sites, the shield, for example, the RMSCC have, and I guess, gosh, we think the SIG-0, bunch of them have a rear sight. I think Bushnell has kind of an insertable rear sight. So you've got a rear sight dovetail. So, you know, not Bushnell, Burris, I'm sorry, with their new compact red dot. I have that on the smallest stoker that, I've actually been shooting with it. I like the dot a lot, I like the little stoker. We have something we're gonna come back with, you know, stokers is one of our sponsors, but, but anyway, so on a 1911 slide, a 10 millimeter 1911 slide, I'm like, hey, do you wanna do this? And Volkin said, what if we cut a Glock dovetail in front of the Trigicon RMRCC? And then we can figure it out, you know, then slip a Glock dove, you know, huge option of different sites in Glock, dug 'em dovetail. And so, I am actually gonna take the slide now that I have it back and mounted and everything, and send it down to Monty and excess sites, and let them do some measuring, and see how this is gonna work. 'Cause obviously, you know, there's, there's not a lot of space there. And in terms of, you know, there's not a huge window, and you want to occlude as little of that window as you can. But I like the idea of if it's a backup site, and I guess I could call it a bear backups. In fact, I got some bear targets from Fish and Game in Alaska, that's their training targets. So when it gets the sites on it, the idea will just take it and shoot the living heck out of it. Gunfighters, Inc, made a, oh, you know, one of their can I, chest holsters for it, a really good setup. I mean, I really, I really like the way it looks. So I, you're gonna like it too. I'll have a picture, the picture here that'll go with the podcast this week. I'll show you this, it'll, you can show you the slide with the, the site on it. And then, as soon as I take that picture, I'll send it on down to Monney. And he can, he and his experts there at excess sites can figure out how this is gonna work in terms of the backup site. But I think it's a cool gun. I mean, I know the guys at Rock Island are really excited about it. So I'm, you know, I'll probably do some work on the internals. My inclination is that the working man's 1911 came out so well. I am inclined to purchase more Ed Brown parts and just go ahead and fit them myself because it's, it's a really nice setup, you know? And you end up with, once again, you know, you fit those parts, the parts are perfect. And that makes a big difference. So that's kind of what's going on here. Also, I just would like to thank Trigicon. They repaired my SRO, which I managed to cleverly break. Ultimately, I break everything. Trigicon's long-term, I guess lifetime warranty. Miraculously, my SRO has come back home fixed. Also, I'm looking forward to mounting this very soon. I might go ahead and mount it on our rifle. You know, I have one of the Lucid Optics Blue sites, one of their 4X magnifiers on the, oh gosh, the Ruger, small frame AR 308. But they have another one of their blue, blue dot site, so to speak, is the E7 and closed reflex. It's good, it will fit for a handgun. It's very much the same mount as the, the aim point and the Steiner, you know, the clamp mount on it. And, yeah, I'm looking forward to working with that. That just came, just came in the mail. I've been kind of looking forward to getting my hands on one of the blue dot, blue dot little sites. I may put it on a Glock. I've got a couple of Glocks that are cut for the Arco, Arco two sites and over the, the Steiner sites. So I might just sub out one there, just to see how I'm gonna like that blue reticle. And we'll be talking about that as well. So lots, lots of gun stuff going on here, lots of gun stuff. Otherwise, otherwise, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to keep up with shooting a bunch of different guns and it's good for me as an overall shooter. I really think it is definitely good for me as an overall shooter to say, okay, we're gonna shoot, you know, you're not just going to shoot X. You're going to shoot, you know, today, your practice is with X gun. And I did want just a small notation thing is as you know, I've shot a lot of red dot stuff at a whole lot of red dot stuff on pistols, on carbines, fill in the blank. But going back to cowboy and going back to what I'm planning to do at a gun site with double action revolvers, I've gone back to iron sites. And it seems to me, and I've said this before, but I mean, this kind of proves it to me again. I have less issue going from red dot to iron sites than the other way around. You know, one thing I noticed, I was just, you know, 15 yards shooting the single action, shooting cowboy loads, 38 special cowboy loads. And I was not having any trouble picking up the site. And that's not always the case. Yeah, I found it quickly acquired the front side, quickly got the site picture I needed, quickly hit the target. And I think that's interesting. It's something that's certainly predicted by Mike Ox in his book along with Eric Gelhaus and others on shooting red dot sites. But that it does make it easier to come back to iron sites. It's not like you're addicted, okay? To red dot sites and you can only use red dot sites or else you won't even be able to see the target. But I think that is an interesting point that from red dot to irons is an easier transition than going the other way. Hang on a second, we'll be right back. Ready to revolutionize the world of sports shooting, introducing the RIA 5.0 sporting pistol. Made right here on American soil at RIA USA. The 5.0 features a patented RVS recoil system that maximizes barrel mass and linear movement to give you a super soft recoil. Combined with a smooth trigger pull with no stacking, you'll be more accurate on target, faster. The RIA 5.0, all new, all American. See more at armscore.com. - And welcome back my friends to the show that never ends in BTV on the radio. And wow, okay, you know, after a long weekend, you always think I'm gonna be really refreshed 'cause I was, it's a really comfortable weekend and not a lot of pressure. And once again, we've got a bunch more time on both the mountain, the road and the road bikes. It was fun. And you think, well, I'm ready to work. So come, you know, it's Monday and I come back in and I'm like, I got all these notes here on the podcast and I don't understand my writing. But I think it just goes to show what I've always felt very strongly is that the lack of pressure is never good for you. You should always, you know, be under pressure. And of course, as I say that, I'll probably vapor lock and explode tomorrow. Anyway, this just came up last week and I really am kind of excited about it. I was talking to my friends at Car Arms and talking about how I really, really wish that one of them would attend the Rimfire Challenge Shooting Association Championships down in Alabama later on this year. And we're talking about the Magnum Research, switchboat rifles, which have been really very successful and very successful in the competition circuit. There's been a lot of really great shooters who have run the Magnum Research 1022 type rifles and have done well with it. And they're like, well, have you ever shot one? Well, no, I spent a lot of years putting together 1022s and variations both for speed shooting and for precision shooting and for hunting, you know, plinking. But I had never shot a Magnum Research switchboat. So I will be, I said, I'll shoot one in the match. How about that, you know? So I'm having a custom switchboat built by Magnum Research that I'm gonna be using down in Alabama for the, for the worlds. And by the way, if you're down there, and I've mentioned this a couple of times is I would really like to see as many people down there as I can and hopefully we'll have enough people to pull off something like Michael buys the barbecue or something. And if I'm there and you see me and you would like to shoot the Magnum Research switchboat 22, yeah, by all means, by all means. Grab me and I'll get you some ammunition and you can run some rounds through it. And again, still haven't figured out what I'm gonna do on a dot on it. Both, we talked about this, maybe I talked about this recently, both the tactical solutions of 10-22 type clones, which are excellent guns, by the way, just excellent guns. And the switchboat and some of the other like 10-22-ish, if I will, 22 rifles, they have like permanently a fixed Picatinny rails on top, you know, that comes kind of with the gun. And you know, given my druthers, I really like to mount the site closer to the receiver of the gun, if I can. And with Picatinny rail, you're not gonna have that option. TACOM, T-A-C-C-O-M. I've done a lot of work in 22 rimfire and accessories and also a lot of work in PCC and three gun type stuff. They have a mount that you can take a Holosun 510-C, which is a big window mount. I mean, it's a rifle mount, Holosun rifle mount. And you kind of take the mount part bottom off the Holosun 510, and then they have a mount that goes directly to the top of a Ruger 10-22. And it probably takes half an inch out of the system. So your red dot is half an inch closer to the board line. And unfortunately, there's a waiting list for them right now and they only fit like stock 10-22s without a dedicated rail, without having a Picatinny rail machined in the top. But to me, it makes for an ideal position on the gun because it's dropped it down really low in it. And, you know, given my druthers, that's where I'd want it to be. I mean, it's very similar to the conversations you've had on mounting red dots on handguns, you know, given my druthers, I would rather have the red dot machined for the, into the gun as opposed to using a plate because a plate adds depth, you know, it adds, I'm sorry, it adds height to the red dot site. But so I really haven't, gosh, decided what I'm gonna do yet on a dot site. It's, it's not impossible that I'll get another Holisun 510 and mount it, even on the Picatinny rail. You know, to me, the Holisun 510 is a really excellent competition site for, for 22 rimfire competition. It just works. You know, it's big window, a choice of, of reticles, which, which is kind of an interesting selection when you're shooting primarily steel. You can have a dot and a donut, what a two, two, two MOA dot and a 65 MOA circle or just the circle or just the dot. It's also available in green and red. And generally, I, I've shot with a green Holisun 510. I really like it a lot. And I sort of found, this, this really sounds kind of dumb, but when shooting like rimfire challenge and, and yeah, I know what size the targets are. It's all steel, know what size the targets are. In a lot of ways shooting the circle reticle, it gives you the opportunity to, to, to have some slop in it. I know that when the circle crosses a plate, I'm going to hit the plate somewhere. And since all I have to do is ring the plate, it doesn't matter to me whether it's a, it's a, you know, five o'clock in the corner hit, a dead center hit, or a two o'clock in upper right hand, it's going to ring the plate. And I know that, that, at least I work with this for a while with a, with a circle dot reticle. And when the circle crossed it, I said, okay, I've got some, a little slop in the system. I can pull the trigger. So I don't know, you know, I'm, I'm leaning toward a green Holisun 510 and we'll go from there. And pistol wise, I think we've talked about that a bunch. Um, I, I'm torn between, uh, uh, of all courts and scorpion with a, uh, Seymour on it. Seymour rail on it, because it's just, it's a nice gun. It shoots really good. Um, or my, my, uh, tandem cross tandem, it's the old tandem cross cranking frame. And, uh, I think it's one of the best like, uh, uh, Ruger, like Mark series clone frames I've ever used. You know, I like it a lot. And it's mounted with, uh, from, uh, Mad Max Precision's, Mad Max, Mad Mike, Mad Somebody Precision. Um, and it's set up for an SRO. And actually, I think I have a Holisun on, on it as well right now, while my SRO was, uh, was off. Getting itself repaired, you know, it's really easy to get caught up by messing with 22s, uh, 22 rifles or 22 pistols. Uh, because it's, it's, uh, it's a less expensive way to enjoy some really kind of excellent custom guns. You know, it's one of the things we talk about here all the time is I, I really am fond of, of customer customizing guns. And, and it's an easy way to spend, uh, a really large sum of money very quickly. And, um, you know, when you get to 22s, not so much. I mean, yeah, you can run it up. Uh, um, but generally you'd be surprised at, at what, at, at how good 22s can be that's not a complete screaming fortune. Uh, I know I've told you my, my, um, original NRL 22 gun was, um, a 22, a 22, uh, 1022 that I built. And it's kind of a higher end, but, but not, you know, for, for 20, 1022, higher end is not up in space. I mean, a higher end PRS rifle is pretty much like a car or something like that. But, um, I, I built that off a kid action and a hand fitted a kid, a kid barrel to it. And running, I think the whole thing is kid running a, uh, a kid trigger group. And at the same time, I'm, I'm in a, uh, McCree's precision, which I, I know, uh, got him. Cruz bought out a while back, but McCree's, uh, uh, precision chassis and the net net is the gun shoots irrationally well, you know, and that's, uh, I, I've been lucky enough to shoot it against, uh, some of the really super bolt action, uh, guns, the voodoo's, for example, the, the precision long range 22 bolt action guns and had it hold up surprisingly well, uh, in, in terms of being able to, to deliver the goods. It's a really good rifle. And, uh, a lot of that I think is I put a lot of work into fitting the barrel, which is, you know, it's not a huge, you know, it's not like, I, you know, I need a lathe, uh, I need a lathe and a gunsmith, but, you know, I need like, sandpaper pretty much and, uh, make sure everything is as tight a fit as you can get. And, uh, you, you end up with a surprisingly accurate rifle. Every so often I take it out, I've got a pad in, in, uh, the backyard off the patio. It's a secret hidden bunker just so I can take that rifle out and I have a, um, I think 140, 150 yard, uh, 4-inch square steel plate, uh, an act, uh, action target steel plate, 22 plate out there. And, and sometimes it's great to just kind of, kind of lay there, you know, lay the pad down and flip the plate over and over and over again. It's not, it's not even particularly hard. Uh, it lacks SK rifle match, um, not SK long range match, but SK rifle match. Uh, that's the one thing you'll find on, on the, on the super 22s is they tend to be really, really, really specific on ammunition. While we're on the topic of picky about ammo, um, one thing I've, I've been trying to work on a little bit was, um, a really deep cover small gun and various times in the past I have, I carried, uh, uh, small pocket, pocket semiautos and the like. I mean, you know, smaller than a snub, say, a North American arms, a sea camp, uh, on 32, um, one of my favorite carried around the property guns is the, uh, Ruger LCP2, the 10-shot 22, uh, for like pests and stuff. Occasionally I'd be able to catch, catch a rock rat out, out in the open and, you know, hoo, tough break, Mr, Mr. Rat. But, um, because I'm, I, you know, I'm a guy and I kind of like gadget guns, you know, I sort of collect, uh, bond arms, derringers, um, but I, I got a few years back and you probably remember me getting it is, um, from North American arms, a Ranger II, which is their break top, little bitty, tiny, uh, all stainless steel revolver, a top break, as it were. You know, you unlatch it, it opens up, it, it's got a little ejector, pops the cartridges up, makes it easy to, uh, uh, unload, reload, there's even a little bitty speed loaders that are really kind of cool for it. And, um, you know, I have one and I ordered it. It actually is the first one. Once again, it's like SG-0001, um, which is probably not the best idea in the world. Um, when I got it, you know, I, I, I was really disappointed in that it had a lot of misfires and I worried about that because, you know, with the top break revolver, where you don't have that solid, uh, top strap across that anchors everything, you get flex and, you know, it doesn't matter whether it's, uh, you know, smith and wesson number three or, you know, um, it's one of the little North American arms that there's gonna, there's gonna be flex there and, you know, I worried that that, that's a problem because it doesn't take much flex for a 22, not to fire. The reason that I wanted to try the little North American arms guns is that I did have some experience with the solid frame guns and they were pretty neat. And I like the fact that you go to 22 Magnum because when you're thinking of a deep cover gun, all right, this is a deep, deep cover gun. Yeah, this is a gun that, you know, you can't risk having discovered on your person. It's gonna be something you've got pretty well talked to, it might well be a second kind of fallback that might serve the function of what we talked about before is get off me. Essentially, a similar purpose served by, uh, that folding knife that you have in your pocket that you never practice with, right? That, that what's its function is to get somebody off of you. Um, it's primary function, in any case. Uh, it's one of the reasons that, that I kind of like, you know, kind of knuckle knife kind of things. It's a, you know, non systematic approach to, to sticking somebody to get them off of you. But also, you know, I've thought about that in terms of, uh, smaller semi-autos, the little bitty tiny stainless steel revolvers. But, um, the advantage to the revolvers is they're available in 22 Magnum. And in recent years, the ammunition companies have really stepped up with, uh, 22 Magnum ammunition dedicated to self defense role. So I, I thought that that, that in a lot of ways made good sense for a deep concealment, little gun. Not so much. Introducing the all new Taurus G3C with key new features and enhanced customization potential for shooters and everyday carry practitioners of all ages and abilities. To learn more, talk to your local dealer today. I sent the NAA back and when it came back, uh, it worked 100% with 22 long rifles, but, um, it's still kind of, uh, it's still misfires pretty badly with 22 Magnum. I tried, in fact, um, five different types of, uh, 22 Magnum ammunition, including the two dedicated quote unquote, self defense rounds, uh, that the Hornady and, uh, federal punch. And basically, I would get maybe two out of five to fire. So that's going back to the guys at NAA. Uh, actually, I think there's a woman gunsmith in charge of that, where hopefully we can figure this out, uh, either a heavier mainspring or if maybe if I want to continue that project, what, what I need to do is go to a solid frame NAA in 22 Magnum, a dedicated 22 Magnum. I believe the version that makes sense is their pug. And, uh, it's a five shot, uh, 22 Magnum solid frame has a set of excess sites on it. Not that you're going to be using a lot of sites in terms of a get off me gun or get off me anything, but, uh, it would be nice to have. You never know when, when you're, you're going to have an opportunity to use your sites. And, uh, there's also another one that's at the NAA came out with, I saw it at, um, in a ratio that was the, uh, a sentinel, which is a swing out cylinder like a double action revolver. You know, you swing out the cylinder and reload a little bit easier to reload. I'm not sure that, uh, having that option is worth paying the extra money for it. I don't know, but, um, it seems to me like, you know, standard, one of their standard guns, we take the cylinder out loaded, put the cylinder back in, um, with, you know, five rounds, 22 Magnum that, uh, it would serve that function as, as a get off me gun. So we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, I do like the little Ranger. It's kind of a cool looking gun, but, uh, I'm hoping I can get it to, to, uh, to fire on a full cylinder worth a 22 Magnum. If not, we will dedicate it as a 22 long rifle little gun. But, uh, you know, the, the concept of a get off me something, whether it's a knife or, uh, or some sort of spike or, you know, you see some of these, uh, uh, almost like sharpened pry bars, like three or four inch sharpened pry bars that, you know, it's not for a style of knife fighting. It's for a punch. And of course, um, gosh, a push dagger. I read, I once read that, that I can't remember who said it. I remember it wasn't Michael Janich, but, uh, uh, somewhere I read that the push daggers, the ideal care, everyday carry knife choice for somebody without a knife fighting system because it's basically put it in your fist and punch with it. It is a get off me tool. And I have a couple of push daggers that I do actually carry. Once coles steel and, uh, there's one that I, you know, I found it somewhere in a box of junk, uh, I was helping clean out somebody's storage unit or add their garage and, uh, aside being set up on by millions of fleas because it was really icky and old, you know, inside a box, it was an old push dagger. And, you know, it's a brass, brass frame and a fairly long, narrow blade. And it's, can I have this? And he goes, yeah, it's a letter opener. Well, yeah, depends on what kind of letter you're talking about, but it can certainly serve as a letter opener. But, uh, I've had that for 20, 25 years or something like that came with a little bit of a leather sheet and you carry that. And it's pretty straightforward tool. You know, it's, it's, uh, punch, poke a hole, poke a hole. Um, but I, you know, I think that's valid. I think sometimes, you know, if, if, you know, you are in danger of going to an entangled situation and you, you know, for whatever reason, you don't have, uh, the hand-to-hand skills or you're just surprised and screwed, but you can get your hands on the get-off-me tool that, that has a utility. I think, and I wouldn't swear to this, but I spent a lot of time practicing with a little NAA of a weak hand draw, cocking and firing. You know, once again, not getting the perfect hold on it, but almost a fist grab on the gun, you know, cocking it, cocking it on the way up and then, you know, essentially I'm pulling, pulling the trigger with like kind of the, the, the third, the second joint, the finger, you know, pulling straight in on that. And it, and it worked. You know, I tried it on kind of up, up close targets and, you know, that you've got to practice with it, but I mean, what don't you have to practice with? Is there anything that, is there anything that just miraculously drops into your hand that you know how to use? And the answer is no, nothing. You have to practice with everything. But from my standpoint, the same thing with the little semi-autos is, its role is to get, get somebody off me, buy me some options. And something like, you know, piece of, that's new wanting to get in the bedroom in my, I'm sorry, she wants to get in my studio, because the couch in my studio has a springback skin on it, hide on it, and it's hers. And she's personally offended that, that, that I am taking up the room in, in my studio. But, um, all right, I'll let her in. I'm very gonna finish. Yes, I got up in the letter in the studio. But any, any tool that we carry, anything that we carry, you know, if it's like a, a self-defense pen, you know, any kind of pocket knife, any kind of like either folding knife or, or, uh, fixed blade knife or push dagger, you've got to practice in any case, because otherwise it's not gonna work. When you need it, it's, it's not going to be able to get the person off of you. Again, from my own thinking, when I started thinking about, uh, you know, second gun that serves a function is to get off me gun, um, in a lot of ways that had a greater appeal to me than a blade. I mean, you always have a knife. Everybody has a pocket knife. But, uh, the, the get off me gun has some potential there when you're just shoving it against somebody pulling the trigger. Um, especially with something like a 22 Magnum, you know, where, where you're going to get some flash and you're going to get a little bit more of an effective round. So I'm probably going to continue, continue the process, look around, see if I can find a reasonably priced NAA steel frame and, uh, 22 Magnum and see how that works. Take it out and work on it with some targets. But otherwise, otherwise we'll just continue on with a number of projects here and continue on the range. I know I have, uh, I have slated for this week to spend some time on the range with the, uh, Rock Island, uh, 5.0 E. Just like a few hundred rounds and just kind of shoot the nine millimeter. Um, and typically, you know, I'll default to plate racks. You know, I'll default to plate racks. Oh, also this week, I guess, um, Friday, I believe I'm interviewing Doug Hamlin, the new, the new guy at the NRA. If any of you guys have any questions that you would specifically like me to convey to him, feel free. You can always reach me, you know, this is, you'd always find links to everything we talked about here. Uh, one more special thing for this week. Uh, uh, go to, go to MichaelMaine.tv and you can see triggered there. Of course, you can also find our weekly video triggered on YouTube, on Facebook, on, uh, rumble on X. But, uh, I, I included a segment this week that, um, was shot when I took the shooting gallery crew to Poland and we, and we decided to go to Auschwitz concentration camp and got permission to film there. And, uh, interestingly enough, it only ran once on television, not surprised. But, um, the segment itself is not very long, five or six minutes. And, you know, we're, we're running it now and triggered. And I would very much, very much like for you to see that. Um, I think it's some of the best work I ever did. And it's important. As we see the rise of evil in our own country here, so, so very, very important. And I'm reminded, my friend, Yehuda Remmer, who bills himself as the Pew Pew Jew, has, uh, has t-shirts that say people with ARs don't get in box cars. And that's something I think we should all remember. I'm Michael Baines, MBTV on the radio and it's 20th year longest running gun podcast on the internet. Uh, as I said, in MichaelBaine.tv, we've got all the links for you there. And, the song, by the way, is titled, is rent. It's burning. Our town is burning. Uh, pretty famous song that was written in 1938 by Mordecai Gerbring. And he was a Jewish poet, a Jewish philosopher. Uh, he'd been active in the Jewish social democratic party and wrote the song during the burning of the town of Prichik, a small town in Poland. And the song message was, don't stand there, brothers, douse the fire. He wanted it to be a call to action for the Jewish underground that was developing in Germany. And it was sung in the Nazi ghettos all across Europe. He himself was killed four years later, shot down in the Krakow ghetto in occupied Poland by the Germans. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]