Daf A Week
Nedarim 8A: R' Daniel Glatstein
This Torah class is brought to you by Torah any time dot com Okay, good evening everyone. I'm like I'm brook. I'm about we're continuing in da Fasheva. I'm saka snadorem daf tes Adaf ha some allah We're continuing with the teachings of Rev Gidom Amarav We've given them a wrap set on Zion on the base for lines the bottom that a common Chacham could put himself into harem And he could remove it himself So I'm of Gidom Amarav me nayin shanish boyin le cayyam esa mitzvah How do you know? That You could swear to fulfill a mitzvah Let's say like this. I could wake up. I could say tonight tomorrow. I swear I'm gonna put on to fill in tomorrow I say I swear I'm gonna say Shama. How do I know I'm allowed to do that? Shannam I like Dava Nal says Nijbati I Swore the callema and I fulfilled Lishmar mish batets in kekaha to guard your statutes So Dava Nal says I swore and I fulfilled to guard your statutes So from there we learn out you could swear to mikai mah mitzvah So the tomorrow says what do you mean? You could swear to mikai mah mitzvah the hallelujah mujvah the only made meharsina you but you are already sworn The you're in a state of being sworn from Mount Sinai We're at Sinai every Jew swore swore to uphold and keep the tyra And so the Gomara hakam ashmallan the shidoshabar of Gidoliz The shari layla initial Azuz a nafshin a person is permitted to Energize himself Now there's a question does that mean really the schwah is Sal And of course the schwah is Sal Because why not why can't you swear to fulfill a mitzvah the shidoshabar of Gidol is even though we're narrowly you're not allowed to swear But to uphold a mitzvah you're a lattice where even though usually Observing people refrain from swearing to uphold and keep a mitzvah you could commit yourself with a schwah or Really the schwah is not how and you could swear just to so to speak come Make yourself more committed to the schwah. Let's see the run inside. Okay, this is a very interesting Sughya Says the run On the fifth line the hallowing much rather only made me Harsina you Ella kam ashmallan says the run mr. Broly It's logical to me the hockey perusha. This is the meaning of the Gomara Demai kara kosaka died in the beginning the Gomara thought Do you have Gidol also ashmina and there of Gidol is coming to teach shishwah chala? Aldvar mitzvah that a schwah is Cal on an item of a mitzvah Kidwaha rishos just like you could swear or you're gonna eat Salami sandwich you could swear they're gonna do a mitzvah at first the Gomara thought the hiddish of revgidol is that the schwah is Cal Ummocha Ummocha clan and the Gomara proves that it's Cal Medixiv like the fact that when I'm outside Nishvah Tivakayema. I swore and I fulfilled So to that the Gomara asks Ummocha mahi parkleer for the Gomara asks valu imusvah wa imidu you already swore the hamuh mohikon reparksvosh daimasra We know we could prove from the Gomara and schwuss the haduksiv laharah a la heitiv Then when the Torah talks about swearing to do better to do good. That's been vahrah or schwskskskskskra That's regarding discretionary for lui vidvar mitzvah and not mitzvah So the Gomara at first thinks that the hiddish of revgidol is that the schwah is Cal and that we proved from Nishvah Tivakayema lishmah mitzvah mitzvah taytizin kaha and the Gomara asks why do I need that poshok? What do you I'm sorry? What do you mean the schwoo is Cal but a schwah is not effective on environments? Well because the schw is only Cal on a dvarishos So maybe you'll say well, it's only Cal on a dvarishos To be high if to bring a carbon if you violate the schwah, but it will be Cal Meaning this thing that it's not Cal on a dvar mitzvah is that if you buy if you don't fulfill a mitzvah You won't have to bring a carbon. It's not Cal on environments for regarding key of carbon But maybe revgidol's teaching it is Cal on a dvar mitzvah to violate la yachal de vahroi It says Gomara vikitema, and if you're gonna say honey me lee la carbon That's only for carbon ice de la hara oila hetiv because to do bad or to do good Gabi carbon civa was said legabi carbon ice ava ba yachal ikah Fila bit var mitzvah ba yachal there is even for it var mitzvah So maybe what revgidol is saying is it's true We have a drasha that schwoo is not Cal for a heave Maybe it's only not Cal to obligate you a carbon But maybe what revgidol's saying is it is Cal that if you don't fulfill your ever ba yachal well, then Why would he say that we learn it out from nishvah tivah kayimah lishmam rishpate sikaha that posse doesn't show me Anything that it's Cal agave bal yachal and kain mind nishvah tivah kayimah Hake have lee mamr, this is what revgidol should have said and he the amita mitzvah me carbon true through our mitzvah Ashwah wouldn't be how to be civa carbon lea yamita ami bal yachal it would not be excluded from bal yachal kiddah kazina and hassam Like we see over there but parak schwooish die embasra the most of the less of a la vahain That's something that is not No, or a yes in ami bal habah Dema damit ami carbon mila harah oi la hative that is Meaning something that is not a no or a yes or la habah is Excluded from a carbon from la harah oi la hative Vala yamit ami malkus, it's not excluded from alcos and that we don't need a posse Imkain mica amar shanamar nishvah tivakha yama in other words if what revgidol is teaching is that a schwooah? Iskala an advar mitzvah to be violating bal yachal then why would he invoke the possek of nishvah tivakha yama and you know what the answer is when metartina and the gmara answers Elahah kamashmallan that the hiddush of the gmara of revgidol is the shari lee lizruze nafshay That he's allowed to make the shwah to energize himself kalaimar Vadayla it's shuhai kra laimar Certainly that possek is not needed to say shihi kala legabe bal yachal That it's kala legabe bal yachal We don't need the possek of nishvah tivakha yama to say that the shwah's kala to violate bal yachal What we need the possek of nishvah tivakha yama is to say it's a good thing to do Elah hi kamar me nai insha daver hogan who how do you know? It's proper lee shava to swear le kayim isam it's not vafilu kishayram even kosher people Shanim na mishwah who usually refrain from shwah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah nishvah tivakha yama kalaima shari dovidol yousa kain dovid would do this so I learned from nishvah tivakha yama Not that the shwah's kala, but that it's it's an acceptable and recommended thing to do Let's say you want to make sure you're done with the minion. You could say I swear I'm gonna die with the minion And that's okay, but I and the Gomar asks Valle emu shava y miharsina kalaimaar Okay The Gomar continues the amar Revgidol amarav Revgidol son the name of Rav By the way other reach shine them learn that the net there's nakal it's taka nakal and The excuse me the shwah's nakal, but we learned that from nishvah tivakha yama that You could do it just to sort of speak commit yourself Take a mark So you mean what how is it a committal Oh What I mean Mm-hmm Toisah says it's not considered saying shim shimayam levatala Me maybe you would say since it's not how then you You know I guess the shwah is being said in the full form of a shwah where you swear by the name of Hashem Shwah la shim that you're gonna do this so taka the shwah is not how so then you would think okay Then you're you're saying Hashem's name in vain. No the finishes even though it's nakal you still not considered saying Hashem's name in vain Maybe that It's what it's what? It still is usually not see in other words. I guess That's why that's why it's probably not saying Hashem's name in vain because a person would be motivated by The fact that even though it's nakal he's still committed by the name of Hashem Right so Yeah, I mean psychologically you could hear why it'd be motivated why it would still motivate even though it's nakal Maybe the shwah is that that motivation allows it to be considered not saying shim shimayam levatala Okay The Amara of Gidol Amara of Gidol send the name of Raph. Oh, I mean one who says ashkim vah Ashna parak zah I will wake up early and learn this parak Ashna masaktazu I will learn this masaktah Meaning a person says I'm gonna get up early and learn this parak. I'm gonna get up early and learn this masaktah nada nadar god al nada alay like asa a great vow he made for the god of Israel Now the first thing is what do you mean a great nadar? There is no such nadar There if you make a nadar you're gonna do something. It has no validity and that there isn't it's okay Fats and that there's when you say that Peace of red is also bahana you can't make a nadar to do something There's something called sedaka you can make a nadar of sedaka But there's no nadar you're gonna do amaisa There's no concept of a nadar on amaisa So the round says on the first the last narrow line and first white line by the way that this is love daftka It's a schwa when we say nadar god al nadar la like a so it means a schwa and Sometimes the schwa is referred to as a nadar nadar nadar nadar. Why is it effective? What do you mean? It's a great nadar by halo imuja revo imedhu you're already Committed to learn this parak and learn this masaktah From harsinai vayim schwa kal al schwa so the schwa is not calm. So here the grammar says explicitly. It's a schwa. It's not a nadar lmai ah Yes, even though it's how the hiddosh is that you could be misar as yourself or if even if it's not how the hiddosh is You could be misar as yourself. We already learned that hiddosh. That was the first teaching of revgiddo says gomara My commercial in what's the hiddosh that feels ruse ba ama that you could even do it to Motivate yourself. Hi new to revgiddo come. I said I was the first hiddosh of revgiddo says Gomara komash on the cliches qiban di eboi pothar nafshay since you could have exempted yourself Be kriya shimash aqas vahrvis Technically instead of learning you could have just said shimah in the morning in the evening. Misha mahi hai hai hai o shwa alay therefore the schwa is kal Look at the run on the fifth wide line. What do you mean you could have exempted yourself with kriya shmah? You're telling me that we don't have to learn dafa shavua I could just dove in shaqas amariv. I mean then I could have you know gone to PTA at a regular time What do you mean that you could have exempted yourself? So in second, you know, we have a lot of different sadharam during the day We do a mission of bura. We have other shura and we have dafa shavua. What are we doing that for? Just say shmah shmah I even if you say with a lot of kavana it only takes a few minutes in the morning If you missed that, I would free up a lot of time. What do you mean you could have exempted yourself with Kriyishma Shaka's for Arvis? So the Rand says on the seventh line, mr. Vreli, de la Vdafka, de bahokhi mufte. La Vdafka, you could really path to yourself from learning by just saying, "Shama, shaare kai'v kala, dum lomai tomet." Every Jew is kai'v to learn always, yawim valayla, day and night, kafikai kai kai'v. In accordance with one's energy, vamminam parakamidikidushin, tana rabhanan, vishinantam, shayyu debre taira, mikudadim bifika, shim yishaka adam davar. Somebody asks you something, shalai tegang game vitamalayi, you shouldn't stumble. Meaning a bird Jew has to be familiar with taira, then we just want to ask you a question, you don't say, "hum, hum, hum, yum, bum, I got to go now." Or it's not a regular kas. You have to be able to answer fluently every question, and there's no way that you're going to be able to do that by saying, "Shama, in the morning, at night," you have to learn in all your free time. Sahakur de Gomara says, "You could have exempted yourself," that the shul is ha'l, 'cause you could have exempted yourself with shaare kasen, with Kriyashma shiare kasamarev. If we Kriyashma shaare kasab, it's like sagilahahi. Alameekan nirali rayah, this supports ahidosha kasabti, parakshuosh tayyimasra, that I said, 'Mysaktoshuvus, Mysaktoshuvus.' That anything we learn out of a drasha, even though it's midairaissa, since it's not explicitly, you could swear not to do it. You're not bound by an oath to fulfill biblical things that are not explicit in the kumish. The din that you can't swear to violate a navera and it's nakhal is only something explicit in the kumish. But if it's learned out of a drasha, you could swear. Even though you say, "What do you mean didn't, weren't the Jews obligated to keep everything?" The round says, "Alameekan rayah, 'Mysaktoshuvus, mysaktoshuvus, mysaktoshuvus, 'Mysaktoshuvus, mysaktoshuvus, mysaktoshuvus.' The kumidi, the us of a drasha, anything that's learned out of a drasha, full-pishim, and ahidah, even though it's biblical. Even the last semafurish bhikrah, bhidah, since it's not explicit in the passek, shwua khala alav. Vahakha over here, hukhi khaami, and this is what we're saying. Kivindi bhai patar navshay, since you could have exempted yourself. My deksiv bhikrah bhidah. By fulfilling that, which it says in the passek explicitly, the hainu bhikrah, bhikrah, ufkumaka, bhikrishimah, shakwis vaharviz, mishim hukhi khaalah, shwua alav, lhakami. Therefore, the shwua is qal completely, afula karban. The shwua is qal, not only for bhalyaqal, meaning even the tzad, listen to this, even the tzad of the ran before, that a shwua to fulfill a mitzvah is not even qal, the gabbi bhalyaqal, here it would be qal, not only that you'd violate bhalyaqal if you don't fulfill it, it would be qal, that you'd even be qayv a karban, 'cause it doesn't say anywhere in the Torah you have to learn. It's learned that of a drasha. It's learned that of a drasha, it's not like you're sworn to do it. Next, talaqah. If you make up with your friend, qam, let's have a qavrusa shaft, and you say, you initiate it, (speaking in foreign language) Venishna Parakzan, let's learn this parak. Allah've lahashkim. It's upon him to be the one to wake up early. If you were the one who initiated the learning say there, you need to show up first to the learning say there. You initiated it, you said, let's do it, you need to be there first. You initiated in words, you need to initiate it in deed. (speaking in foreign language) Venishna Parakzan, let's parak Allah've lahashkim. It's upon him to wake up early. (speaking in foreign language) Qum, get up, say alha bikah, go out to the valley. (speaking in foreign language) I will speak with you. God says to yifasqah, get up, go to the valley, I'll speak with you there. (speaking in foreign language) I went out to the valley, (speaking in foreign language) God was standing there already. Says the Rana Allah've lahashkim, mrstabroli, it's logical to me. (speaking in foreign language) This is what Rev give Omar Ava saying. (speaking in foreign language) Since he said Nashkim, let's get up. (speaking in foreign language) He accepted upon himself. (speaking in foreign language) That he will be the one who initiates the act. (speaking in foreign language) Just like he initiated the idea from now. (speaking in foreign language) It's telling me to (speaking in foreign language) Number one, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) That merely accepting a mitzvah. (speaking in foreign language) It helps because wait a second, what did the guy say? He just said, let's get up early and learn. He didn't make a nether. He didn't take a schwa. So why does he even have to do it? If you say, let's do a mitzvah, you are bound to do the mitzvah. You're accepting upon yourself to do the mitzvah. (speaking in foreign language) What did he say over here (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) But with words alone, it's sufficient. (speaking in foreign language) Similar to what we said, (speaking in foreign language) merely saying alone works for tzedaka. (speaking in foreign language) Like it says (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) That's Khadish number one. See, last the round was just soy sur himself. I thought earlier he said that if somebody says, let's get up early, I'll get up early and learn. And when he was saying, (speaking in foreign language) The round says, no, it's not a nether. There's no concept of nether to do a mitzvah. So why over here is the round saying that Khadish number one is, even though he didn't mention a nether. But just like you could pledge tzedaka with your mouth, so too l'chol dvar mitzvah. (somber music) So then if it's like tzedaka, and a nether is like, and accepting to do a mitzvah is like tzedaka, then why did the round say before there's no concept of nether for a mitzvah? That's a big question on the round. The kamashal anami, second tzedash is all of lahashkim. You have to be the one to get up. First, (speaking in foreign language) like the almighty did. Okay. (speaking in foreign language) If you were put in here in a dream, you're gonna need 10 people to be matter you. Why? (speaking in foreign language) Maybe the guy put you in harem was doing it on behalf of God. So therefore, (speaking in foreign language) you need 10 to matter you. (speaking in foreign language) This way God will be among them. This is like what happened with yoy safe. Where Hashem joined in the harem, not to reveal what happened to yoy safe. Now it says, (speaking in foreign language) These 10 people, (speaking in foreign language) This is provided that they learn Gomara. (speaking in foreign language) But if they learn (speaking in foreign language) they don't learn Gomara, (speaking in foreign language) If you don't have those who learn Gomara, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) You could even use those who learn Mishnah and they don't learn Gomara. (speaking in foreign language) And if you don't have that, (speaking in foreign language) Go sit on the crossroads. And (speaking in foreign language) Say Shalom to 10 people. And they're gonna say to you, (speaking in foreign language) And those greetings, (speaking in foreign language) will protect you if 10 people say peace unto you. That will protect you until you get at, you find 10 people who learn Gomara to get you out of the harem. (speaking in foreign language) Until you can find 10 people that get you out of (speaking in foreign language) So from this Gomara, I have a harem. You see from here how harsh of it is for someone to greet you, (speaking in foreign language) Or to say, (speaking in foreign language) Well, harem, that means if you see someone in the morning, you should not say, (speaking in foreign language) Hey, what's going on? Or you should say, (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) You know, (speaking in foreign language) You should say (speaking in foreign language) because you're protecting the guy. Another thing is, (air whooshing) Is it a good idea to say, (speaking in foreign language) Isn't the original greeting? (speaking in foreign language) Now, you say what people are gonna think out of your mind. That might be the case, but just pointing out what we lose out by not wishing, by the (speaking in foreign language) is that they say, (speaking in foreign language) So imagine you go to shul and after davening, you're now protected for like five months. You have, you know, (speaking in foreign language) You're good to go. But what is it gonna do for you that, you know, (speaking in foreign language) Good shabbos, good shabbos, shabbos, shabbos. I don't know, just pointing out, unless shabbos, good shabbos, good, good, it's also, good also is a good (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) I don't know, but good shabbos, just pointing out. I don't know. By the way, the ran has a different gears to hear. The ran learns it's not yet to learn (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) It's only if they teach Torah to others. (speaking in foreign language) They just learn on themselves, (speaking in foreign language) They're not as important. (speaking in foreign language) Those who learn the (speaking in foreign language) that they learn (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) But if they learn (speaking in foreign language) So there are two ways of learning it. Either it's (speaking in foreign language) or it's teaching as opposed to learning. (speaking in foreign language) You give (speaking in foreign language) by them answering (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) or protect you from (speaking in foreign language) So that would be like a (speaking in foreign language) for a fua, go around giving shalom to people. And they say shalom and you protect the person from you, Surin, (speaking in foreign language) Let's say you see the guy in the dream, it's (speaking in foreign language) put you in here in the gym. You had a dream, (speaking in foreign language) put you in here. So it's true, he might be an agent of God, but now maybe don't go in front of 10 people. Ghost, (speaking in foreign language) Maybe he could get you out. If you saw the guy who put you here in the dream, why can't you go in to get you out? (speaking in foreign language) If you see who put you in here (speaking in foreign language) Could he get you out? (speaking in foreign language) He said to him (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) He was given, he was made a schliak to put you in here in (speaking in foreign language) Maybe he was never made a schliak from heaven to get you out. Rashi's, the Rans says (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) Anyone who in reality puts you in here in the other ladder, he could get you out. (speaking in foreign language) Like we say in (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) So a guy in his physical, in his waking state, puts you in here and he could get you out. But here, where he just is a schliak in the dream, maybe he was only made a schliak to put you in that to get you out. (speaking in foreign language) What does the guy put you in here and released you all in the same dream? Could you rely on his release in the dream? So, Rashi says no. (speaking in foreign language) Just like you can't have a grain without straw, (speaking in foreign language) So too, you cannot have a dream without vermate. Actually, we learned it from this week's parasha. Rashi in this week's parasha said that they didn't pay attention to Yairsev's dream because he said (speaking in foreign language) Your mother's not alive, Rashi's not alive. Now, she can bow back down to you. And Rashi says, well, that's not really a question 'cause every dream has vermatelemen in it. And anyway, it was referring to Billah who has sort of speak the second mother to Yairsev. Okay, I'd like to hold it over here. And tomorrow, hopefully, we can do regular time in 1915. (speaking in foreign language) Okay. (speaking in foreign language) Thank you for changing the schedule. (speaking in foreign language) Good night. You've just experienced another Torah class brought to you by TorahAnyTime.com.