Butts in the Seats Podcast
And Bro-ing is Half the Battle (5/24/2000 Thunder)
[music] Welcome to the Butts and Seats podcast episode number 109. What an episode we have chosen to do for 109. Are you very selective about your 109 episodes? No, but I just know that we're right up to that 110 again, and the next episode is going to have to be the shot, and this is not a great way to lead into it. Would you rather this been the one? Probably, yeah! Because this episode wasn't that bad, but the fact is that if the thunder wasn't bad, the nitro's not gonna be good. Well, maybe they got the bad one out of their way in the last one, but I'm Nick alongside Emily. Hello. Emily, how you doing today? I'm doing good. We were having a pretty chill day. After a long work week, so it's actually been a nice weekend, but just actually having a weekend, which is rare for us. Rare occasion of watching record same day, because it's like, we just wanted to enjoy our night last night. Yeah, we actually did not have a myriad of things to do this weekend, so we actually just enjoyed our time. It's rare. So Emily, what is it we do here on this program? We really are not consistent on when I say this and what I don't. While Nick, we take a week-by-week look at the slope at an evidentable downfall through WCW nitro and thunder from the late '90s to the early 2000s. Oh, and the pay-per-views. WCW is a hole. I feel like if I just said WCW, you would be like, "Well, this is a thunder." So I had to put that little candy on in there. Well, yeah, we don't really do a ton of thunder. I think this sounds third one. That's kind of why I felt like I needed to throw that in there, because, yeah, this is a thunder that we're talking about. Yes, the May 24th, 2000 thunder filmed the day before, so they did have time to potentially edit this if they wanted to. I mean, they didn't, but they had the option. It's live from Saginaw, Michigan. Saginaw. And I have no idea where on the mitten Saginaw is. I didn't look. I don't know. So I don't really have any backstage notes for the show. Is there anything we would have hit all of them on the nitro? True. This kind of is the backstage notes. Yeah, I should say there's none up front, because I do have some as we're going through. But the shows, like I assume most thunders do, start with the nitro recap. Yeah, probably most do this. I did note they did not show two things. One made sense, the other one I could make a case for. But they did not show David Flair putting Reed Flair in the figure four, just generally shoving him over. Yeah, they showed him, like, fighting him. And then they did not show the blood drop missing. You know what else they didn't show, which apparently happened that we didn't know about? Apparently, there is an engagement. We'll get there. We see earlier today, Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, arrive, and Tony Shivani is talking, and then just immediately cut off by the actual thunder opening. Yeah, this was bizarre. Like, right off the bat bizarre. Like, cut to them in a car. Tony Shivani starts talking. Ah, fuck you, it's time to intro. Get the thunder opening, then the opening pyro. And Tony Shivani notes, we're still 18 days away from the Great American Bash. Oh, that's so long. That is so long. 18 days is so long and wrestling. Hey, it's this, and then two more nitros. That's too many. It's not too many. Like, that's not a crazy build. But, oh my god, in this setting, it's too long. We get the old team of Tony Shivani, Mike, today, and Bobby the brain heen in on commentary. Ugh, we've really missed Bobby. Yeah, I think this will actually be the last time we see him. I remember noting when he was gone last time, I'm like, I don't really know where he jumps around to, but he was the last of him on nitro. What a guy. It's a better team than Tony Scott and Mark. I mean, yes. Show opens with Chris Candido and Tammy coming out to the ring, and they grab a mic. Candido says it feels so good to be the first couple of sports entertainment, and I'm like, They're really leaning into that moniker. Didn't they used to call themselves the first couple of professional wrestling? Yes, they did. Oh, who got in their ear? I was like, This or so. I think it's really weird. Tammy's outfit. I don't think anybody else will have a problem with this, but it's funny to me that she comes out with like a bedazzled robe, dressed to the nines, a cute little dress, her hair done, her makeup done. Barefoot. Why are you not wearing shoes? I think it's just, I don't feel like taking them off to interfere. I guess, but I don't know. It just, it felt weird to me. It always feels weird to me. Like when Mona comes out, she's not wearing shoes. Like that's weird to me too. Not she's not on this episode, but just in general. I literally don't know if we see Mona again. Medusa does it too sometimes, but she is a little bit more selective on when she's not wearing shoes. Candido hypes up Tammy and calls the woman in the crowd fat. Tammy has advice for all the women here. They need to have it going on, but you'd be seer definitely don't. That's not advice. It's really not advice. She then does her robe removal and like dances on Charles Robinson, a little bit. Yeah, Charles Robinson looks a little uncomfortable in that segment too. The artist then comes out to the ring with Paisley. Paisley has a mic and she's just like. And shoes. She's like, this is the artist formerly known as Prince Aikea. Thank you. That's it. Paisley slash parsley is such a good matter to me for that. I know, but I wrote it down and it's kind of making me giggle, so I'm going to keep going with it. Parsley is such a pretty woman. Like she's gorgeous. Her hair does her zero favors. It just looks so ratty and messy, but not in a like intentional way. You know, like this is a new wig and I haven't brushed it out sort of way. Or I don't want to say this, but like is she going for J.B.F. hair? I don't know. If that's the goal, she's succeeding. I don't think that that's the goal. We then suddenly cuts a backstage. It's me and Jean Okerland here with Daphne wearing a all black dress. All black wedding dress. Yes, because she's immediately asked, "Where's your fiance, David Flair?" We both paused the show and looked at each other like, "Excuse me? What did we miss?" And we cannot find it. The only place I didn't look would have been W.C. Saturday night, but that wouldn't have been before nature anyway. Yeah, I don't know, man. Well, she also notes that she's like, she's wearing the all black wedding dress. And she's like, "I wanted a ring, but not that ring." Like, so you don't have the ring yet. So then is... Are you engaged? Yeah. She kinda homes, here comes the bride, and then makes her entrance. For a three-way dance, it's Daphne versus Chris Candido versus the artist for Daphne's Cruiserweight title. Why? I don't know. I have a lot of problems with this. Daphne's surrounded by all four other people, but then ducks, so everyone is kind of brawls with each other. Miss Hancock comes out immediately. Candido and the artist try to have a match as Daphne stops pin attempts. Both men knock each other down, so Daphne tries to pin both men. Crowbar suddenly runs the ring, dives from the apron to inside the ring, and brawls with the artist. Daphne buys Miss Hancock's clipboard off of her, and the way she does this is by slipping some bills from boob to boob. Yeah, and that was the weirdest part of it. Like, if she had just pulled it out of her boob and handed it to Stacey, or Miss Hank, what Stacey? It would have been fine. But the fact is she took it out of her boob and put it into Stacey's boob. And Stacey's hand never touched this, so in a court of law, there is a chance that this could be construed as Stacey never accepted the money. She doesn't willingly give over the actual clipboard, though. It's a bit sexy. Candido holds up Daphne, but it's the one thing they didn't want to happen, is Daphne ducks, Tammy hits Candido with the clipboard, and Candido falls backwards in like a tiger suplex sort of position, but ends up with Daphne on top of him, and Daphne gets the pin. Daphne wins. So Daphne is still the Cruiserweight Champion. Crowbar and Daphne celebrate. I was like, "Okay, I guess Crowbar is fine with having lost the title on Monday." Yeah, he doesn't really seem phased at the fact that, like, he was not part of this. Yes. Yeah, it's strange. I think that they should be the ones that are engaged. She looks so happy after she wins. She's like, "Yes!" Yeah, I did it! Daphne and Crowbar are a better couple than Daphne and David. Ugh, Chris Candido then kind of like stumbles to the back. He sells this so well. Like, he got hit with the clipboard. He probably got hit pretty hard in KFA, whatever. But he sells this, and he's like wobbling and like about to fall over, and Daphne has to catch him. Like, the man's an actor. Well, he sells this so well that Tami decides to follow up his stumbling performance with the stumbling performance of her own on Nitro. This is the last appearance of Tami on the podcast. Are you fucking kidding me? Tami, on Nitro, they find drugs in one of the bathrooms, and it gets traced back to Tami. And then they're like, "You have to do a drug test." And she goes, "Oh, I guess someone drugged me." Are you fucking kidding me? This is it for Tami. Oh my God! She's supposed to do a segment on Nitro, and they're like, "No, we're not." Oh my God, I wasn't expecting that. Yeah. Wow! They did not... She did... Candido sticks around a little bit, but they get rid of her. All right, so you can get their feet and get out of here. Yeah, she, I think to this day, denies it, but it's like... Your word has lost some credibility over the years. He excuses, "Oh, someone must have drugged me." You sound like a kid whose mom just found pot in their room. Like, it wasn't me, somebody planted it there, honey. Yeah, after people noted that you in the bathroom for a very long time. Come on, come on, girl. I'd respect him more if he just owned up to it. Yeah, so that's it for Tami. I don't really feel the need to do a whole thing here. I don't think ECW touches her again. I know WWE doesn't, so I think she's just... It's just got some sunny days ahead of us. Nah, not really. Well, when does the porn happen? Quite a while from now. Emily, any thoughts on this actual match? I kind of liked seeing Taf-Cappy and partially just remember that they exist. The hat on Taf was something else. Did you even notice it? Oh, I do want to know that your full sense there was the hat on the artist formerly. Taf. It was like a scarecrow's hat. It didn't have any structure to the brim, so it was just kind of floppy. Well, that works, because I've always noted that Paisley looks like something straight out of Batman and Robin, so... Oh, then they're going for that vibe. Cool. They're on brand is what you're saying. I will note he's not in that movie. Okay. Oh no, Taf-Cappy didn't get his Hollywood run. No, I meant the scarecrow. Oh! No, that's Mr. Fries, Poison Ivy, and Bane. I don't care enough. Moving on. Backstage. A lot of that today. A lot of that today. It's thunder. The powers that be discuss all the problems they both have, and everybody just stressed out for this whole show. The crowd that is with them, though. Let's take note of who is sitting on this couch with them. Next to Eric Bischoff is Kimberly. Next to Kimberly, the cat. Yeah, he's just now part of the entourage. And then there's Russo, and then next to Russo, fucking Liz is still here, ladies and gentlemen. The cat who- But why is the cat here? My old spoilers will become Commissioner for a little bit at some point. Oh god. I have randomly stumbled into finding out that four different people become Commissioner by the end of WCW. You don't even have a Commissioner. I think Lance Storm becomes Commissioner while finally- Lance Storm, I haven't hear yet. I think Flair might even get it one more time by the end. But Commissioner's not really a thing since Kevin Nash claimed it once. Yeah, it does all. Well, because Jeff Jarrett then claimed to be the Commissioner. And then the reset. So Russo tells Kimberly to watch Liz and gives her a baseball bat. Kimberly asks how this will make her a star and Eric Bischoff is just like- Shut up. Even Eric is just like, go with the fuck away. Just go away. We see earlier today, Ralph and Norman Smiley are selling various cosmetics. Yeah, they've gone into retail. So now they're selling lotion and I saw like nail polish remover and shampoo, I guess? I don't know, very random body and skincare shit. Okay, there is a check-offs gun here that I don't know was either so poorly delivered on that it was delivered or just kept being set up and nothing happened with it. Because they're selling the cosmetics and the lotion and all that. Later in the episode, Kimberly complains about lotion and tells security to go get her more. So I guess she got one of the ones they were selling or I thought they were going to go- They never went back to it. It's half a joke. It is half a joke because I did catch that too. I thought she was going to do something with it. But the whole crux of that later on the show was, this is garbage. I need my stuff. Yeah. Like go get me the better stuff. Like kind of selling what they're selling as shit. Yeah, I was ready for this amount of turn into a dyed hair thing. Oh. Anyway, the actual wrestlers. Norman and Ralph is trying to sell this stuff. Shane Douglas walks by. Hey, here's the franchise. He has money. I want to know that you just mentioned the wrestlers and said Ralphus. So just want to put that one in there for you. Shane Douglas just suddenly goes, I got to have a match tonight. Why don't I face you guys in a handicap match? And then Norman's like, but we're fired. Ah, it's fine. Okay. It's grand. All right. So they give him some lotion on the house. On house. That's, that's my thought is the lotion then is handed off there. Did somehow this end up in Kimberly's hands. That's the same bottle that Kimberly has later. Okay. Or at least like the same brand. Maybe not the exact same bottle, but the same brand. So we have a handicap match coming up in a second. Before that backstage, Kimberly just kind of winches to Liz Liz. Winches. Liz does not want to be here for real. Yeah, not Liz the character. Liz the human being. Yes, we are on borrowed time for Miss Elizabeth. Elizabeth would rather be anywhere else on this planet than in this setting. I'm, I'm torn admittedly. Cause they want to have her do a bunch of shit that she is not necessarily qualified for. But the list of shit she's qualified for is so small. I was going to ask you, what does she qualified for? Stand and look pretty? I mean, I'm sure she has other skills, but that's the only way that's been marketed to me. Yeah, but they like want her to start doing like brawls and like cat fights. She's not that kind of girl. Yeah. Yeah, there was an interesting vibe here of they almost made it seem like Liz was like way younger than Kimberly the way like the dialogue was. It was like, you know, you can be my assistant. Like, I'll look after you. You know, you got like, follow me. And I'm like, she's older than you. I didn't get, I did not get that vibe. I think this would have worked better with like a Stacy. It's what I guess my point. Potentially. Yeah. I got it more as like, I am so far above you that like, I can help you out. You can be my assistant. Yeah, again, that's why I think it'll work better with someone who actually isn't arguably more famous in wrestling. But it's almost more demeaning. Yeah. I think they're going for a demeaning angle. They're not really building Liz up. So it's going to her second match. And it's the second title match tonight. It's for the hardcore title. It's Shane Douglas versus Norman Smiley and Ralphis. We'll get there in a second. Question mark, question mark. Shane Douglas grabs a mic and says the crowd should be applauding him for taking out funk. He then just suddenly started shooting on Rick Flair because he's Shane Douglas. It calls him Dick Flair. It calls him a cancer. That's just his, uh, he's like. He's a mic. But that's just his reflex. So he knows that he's a giving sort of person and explains the upcoming match for the crowd. Because I guess maybe they didn't see the backstage segment. And we get Norman Smiley and Ralph is coming out. Ralphis comes out in the local mascot costume, which is a gorilla suit. Okay, this can't be true. This is the most generic ass gorilla suit I've ever seen. This is not a local sports team's mascot. Yeah. I mean, it's very generic. My only thought is basically it sounds right now. Maybe they just have like a very super generic like get height mascot. Maybe we're really the wildcat. Yes. Well, okay. Willy, please. Sorry. Wildcat. Well, Scott Center killed him. Yeah, like a random gorilla costume at a basketball stadium is not the craziest thing, which sounds crazy sentence to say that's not crazy. But immediately we're like, why is he all covered up? That's kind of interesting. And he has what is very obviously fat padding on his stomach and his butt. Yes. And he also moved a little coherently when he first came out. Yeah, you said no. This means too animated. This isn't this isn't Ralphis. So then see Eric Bischoff in the cat watching backstage and they're mad at Shane Douglas, but make no attempt to stop or help this match. I'm mad at you, dad. Douglas dominates early with cane shots, including like keep trying to shove the cane up Ralphis's ass. Yeah, there's a lot of I was going to call him Ralphis. There's a lot of ass play in this match. Norman bonk Shane with the trash can shots and Ralphis just kind of throws the lid at him. We get a wind up slam, but Shane stops a big wiggle. Douglas hits more cane shots and a swinging neckbreaker. Ralphis just keeps going after the ass and hits the suplex on Norman Smiley. For some reason Ralphis just refuses to attack Shane Douglas. I don't really get what they're going for here. I think that they were really trying to sell that this was indeed Ralphis. And Ralphis is a little bit of a coward and not very powerful. So the land the hits that he does land are very weak. So I don't know. Yeah, I mean, Ralphis isn't cowardly. He's just clueless. That is that is an important distinction. You're right. And I think some of that is just he doesn't fully understand how to do wrestling. Because he's Ralphis. Douglas throws Norman in and out of the ring. Ralphis like goes to leave and then comes back. Franchise keeps working over Norman and this match is going way too long. Yeah, they really drag this they stretch this I should say a little too long. Ralphis gives Norman a table which is set up in the ring. Douglas hits a chain shot on Norman and then a front-falling suplex through the table. Ralphis then suddenly gains confidence, hits a punch combo with the chain. And then a chair shot to Shane Douglas. Ralphis pins Shane Douglas to win the win the hardcore championship. And then unmasked to reveal it's Terry Funk. What? Which I was also debating is commentary will not shut about Terry Funk in this match. I'm like do you just have no other story or are you trying to foreshadow. There was a point though where we had popped the size of this was Terry Funk fairly early on. But there was a point as this was stretching where I was like maybe it's not. Like he's really bad. Like he's being really bad. Maybe it's not Terry Funk. Yeah, he kept picking his crack. Yeah, he was doing stuff that didn't scream Terry Funk to me. But then he started hitting the punches. I think part of the problem was because this match went so long. Terry Funk only had two minutes of Ralphis material and he had to stretch that to like eight. Yeah, probably. But yeah, so Terry Funk is now the hardcore champion again. Ralphis I guess is fine with this. Oh, I guess they do note later he was paid so. Good. At least that man's making money somehow. We'll get a little more on this story throughout the night. But next up Vince Russo, David Flair, security and a random old lady head towards the ring. Yeah, we don't know whose old lady is at first. Daphne might be with them. She joins them in the next segment. We also see Kevin Nash and Scott Steiner in the building wearing ski goggles. Yeah, why? Just because Michigan? No, they're ready to get maced. That's what because they keep pulling out the maced to spray him in the eyes. That's Tony Giovanni makes the smallest mention. Maybe he was Mike. Who keeps pulling out maced? Uh, Vince Russo. Has he been macing them? Yeah, that's been a common thing in the last like two weeks. Blood has been a common thing in the last couple of episodes. I have I don't think I've caught on to the mace. Yeah, they've maybe not as much Kevin Nash, but like Lex gets maced almost every fucking week. That's true, but Lex wasn't with them. Yeah, they watch the show. I don't know man. By the way, it never happens where they get sprayed and the goggles come in. Like you literally never the goggles are useless. There's not even a blood drop. Like goggles do nothing. Or it was pointed out by the way on the last nitro that the bloodshot incapacitated Kevin Nash, but Vince Russo was totally fine. That's true. I didn't even think about that. We didn't get a fairly lengthy Ric Flair Vince Russo clip package because there's no music. It's just clips cut back to back to back. Yeah, I don't think we needed this. We kind of fast-forwarded through it if I'm honest. We didn't need this. This is just a recap package. We're literally patting time. The Russo group makes their entrance and commentary mentions that the woman is misnod grass. Misses snod grass. Yes. Vince Russo is wearing a soprano shirt because I'm from New York. Oh, I had no idea. It's a very harmful stereotype. Russo introduces the old bag. Which is like offensive. Yeah, I forget the actual line to set it up, but it's like, "Who is this woman?" And Eugene goes, "Ocolet?" No, he always says, "Let me introduce you to his old bag." And he says, "Oro?" Apparently, no. It's Reed Flair's sixth grade teacher who just talks about what a piece of shit Reed Flair is in class, which is mostly consistent of, mostly consistent of general, you know, 12-year-old behavior. But one exception would would probably be... The shoe mirrors. Yeah, he puts mirrors on shoes to look up the girl's skirts. The things that she cited were she wanted to call his parents, and so Reed gave her the number of his best friend. Like, I've done that. Don't tell my mom. He taught the class to make flatulating noises. Oh, no, fart noises. Russo tries to imply that after school, they're like drinking or like... Does he? I didn't catch that. Like doing cocaine or something. She's like, "They're in taking Helium." Yeah, there's... She missed whatever Helium was going for. Yeah, there's not anything to this one. I don't even know what. This is just a Vince Russo special of. Let's bring out someone who is clearly an actor. This is just a single person. This is your life. Yes. This is just like stupid. There's no follow-through or follow-up with this either. Russo hands the mic to David, who has one thing he wants to say, "Shut up!" But that's not funny. No, he says he hopes Reed is crying. And because his dad can't wrestle the Great American Bash, David challenges Reed to a match at the Great American Bash. Dude, commentary is like... He's a literal child. He can't do that. So we get the wolf pack music hitting. Kevin Nash comes out in a fubu baseball tank. What is fubu? It's a very early 2000s brand. Oh, it's a brand. Yes. Okay, I thought it was like a saying. No, no. One of the guys from Shark Tank thought of the brand. Have we had this conversation before? Yes. Wow. But that was such a deja vu moment. The problem with him wearing the fubu thing for me is it's so close to fun B, that I'm like... It feels like it should just be that. Yeah. I think that's what I was thinking of like, "Fuck you, Bishov." God, you're such a word, Smith. Yeah, right. Nash says he wants to come down and kick Russo's ass, but first, here's Scott Steiner, 'cause the fact that we saw them together twice already, where they had to make very separate entrances. Yeah. Even what you said was a little too coherent, because Kevin Nash is like, "There's nothing I want to do more than kick your ass, Russo." And I'm gonna. Scott wants to, too. Like, that's kind of it. I'm waiting for Kevin. Nash. So Steiner comes down to the ring with him, Shakira Medeja are here too, but they stay on the ramp. Smart ladies. Nash and Steiner hit the ring, take out every security guard with just one punch each. Kind of shit security. There's one that we noted, the mullet on him. It's like, that's definitely the rest of it. Oh my God, the mullet on this man. It would put sexy boy to shame. The heels cower in the corner, and Russo throws David to Nash, and Nash hits a jackknife. Russo then hides behind the teacher in the corner. He's like, "Go ahead, Nash hitter." He's like, "Jesus." National grabs the mic and he's like, "I just want to talk." Liar. 10 seconds ago, you were at the top of the ramp saying, "There's nothing I want to do more than kick your ass, and I'm going to." I'm going to. So the lady gets out of the ring. Nash immediately grabs Russo by the throat. Steiner grabs him. I could just start screaming at Russo. I told you, being in New York, that's Michigan, kick your ass, my friend. That was good. That was a good impression. So we went three way dance tonight. So yeah, there's a title match now, Jeff Jarrett versus Kevin Nash versus Scott Steiner. Russo agrees under much duress. Yes. But bear in mind, he is the booker of the show. So he has the power to do this. Yes. Bear in mind. Are you sure about that? Because when he goes backstage, Jeff Jarrett's like, "Who do you think you are making my title matches?" First of the show, it's his whole job to make that match. I'm chosen one. Why are you mad? By the way, this is the first appearance of Jeff Jarrett tonight. Sorry, I ran to NBC number four. Like random champion extra. Like, yes, it kind of sucks for you. It does. This is a shitty situation for Jeff Jarrett to be in. But also, of all of the people that can make that match, Vince Russo is the only one that can. He's the only one that can make that legitimate. So like, sorry, sucks for you, man. But it still happened. And it's this whole job to make a show and a match. We didn't see Eric Bischoff and the cat scolding Shane Douglas. Like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, fair. Then again, he did put Shane Douglas in charge of the thunder a couple weeks ago. Such, which I think was only meant to do one week, but then they realized, oh shit, we taped this back to back. So it had to be two weeks. Eric Bischoff tells Shane Douglas to take care of Terry Funk, which basically just implied murdering him. Yes, get it done. It's kind of what he said. We then get the filthy animals versus the misfits in action. Kind of weird to do on a thunder with no announcement. But with the quality of the match that it is, I'm kind of glad that it didn't have an announcement. Yes, by the way, this is also a eight-person elimination match. Oh my god. The filthy animals come out to what might be a new dance theme. 100% a new theme. This is one even eye clock. This is a new theme, brother. Moving to Greira cannot figure out the silhouette entrance. He keeps moving. Yeah, he doesn't get it. I not actually my best bid, but goddamn it's close. Conan grabs a mic. Where are my dogs at? Shut up. No one asked you. Feel that. That's enough. That's enough. Very same energy. Like you asked a question when you mean nobody asked. He also says why you guys are calling yourself soldiers when we're the original soldiers. Oh, I'm like, oh no. We don't even talk about the no limit soldiers. The MA's music hit a jog to the ring. Misfits in action clear the ring as everyone splashes disco in the corner. Notably commentary says don't expect a lot of tags in this match. I think they were trying to say that as like others going to be chaos. Yes. However, major guns rips off her top and low blows disco. She is wearing a top underneath. Yes, she's wearing like a bra. Relate. Who be who be in shot post start with everybody else in the apron. It's very much settled down. Expect a lot of tags in this match. If it slows down to a halt at one point. Now that said, I didn't even noted here because it was nothing to me in the moment. Part of clearing the ring was who he gets thrown to the floor on top of Conan. Who catches him, you know, that's the spot. Conan tears his triceps. Tears his triceps. Yes. Oh. There's the currency and punk injury. Oh, yes. Maybe by now he might be cleared, but yeah. It's a work brother. Yikes. Yeah. I don't I don't see like how that happened. It's just just a weird catch. It's just weird things. Muscles are fragile. I don't know if it was torn triceps or like an injured elbow, but like Wade Barrett had that happen to him too. It works like someone want to go do a dive and he just landed weird on the on the way down and yeah. Oof. Now, weirdly, Conan does wrestle in a couple of weeks, but it doesn't wrestle until like Halloween havoc after that. So I'm wondering if like he thought he was fine. He didn't get a good medical clear. Well based on based on what isn't the match that I saw he's in. I don't I think maybe he takes a big boot and that's it. Oh, okay. That is one of the most egregious Kevin Nash matches to ever exist. That's saying a lot. Yes. Yikes. It is going to be your worst bit. Oh no. Because additionally we were noting oh it's weird that Ray is here wrestling. Ray is still I guess I guess totally he's cleared, but he's like hey I'm I'm hurt. Can you please stop putting me in matches? Poor guy. Because he's also in that match. Oof. But yeah. Hoovy and Shavo are starting. Charlie hits a running diving shoulder block from the ramp to in the ring, which like cool spot. Crowbar did do it earlier though. Yeah. Now that I'm thinking about it going back to the Ray and Conan thing. I kind of think that Ray may have called an audible. Like maybe there was more Conan spots slated and Ray was like fuck. I can do him. Let me just jump in real quick and do something like maybe he wasn't supposed to take as much bumps as he did. Yes. Maybe. We said his name earlier but it should be noted that disco Inferno is with the filthy animals. Oh I thought we established that last episode. Yeah neither here nor. Well, commentary has been like oh he's so out of place here. Well the group seems can be true. The group seems fine with them. Like they're not like what do you do in here. They haven't gotten a lot of screen time. Hoovy counters a whiplash 2000 from Corporal Cajun. Sorry yeah he's not Shavo Guerrero. He's Lieutenant Loco. Sorry yes. He tags in Ray. Ray gets hit with a Tildu world side slam and a shake rattle and roll. This is where I noticed that Conan's not on the apron. Because it also was weird that Ray tagged in from from Hoovy. And then Emili tagged Hoovy back in like a second later. I'm like okay. Yeah they were calling it on the fly there because Conan got hurt. Commentary finally notes that this is this is in fact an elimination match. Disco helps with the top rope power bomb and Corporal Cajun is eliminated. Major stash comes in hits a big boot and and taunts/poses to zero crowd reaction. Yeah I really feel like you're giving this match more energy than it warrants. A lot of things happened. A lot of things happened while nothing happened. Around here is where they're very clearly panicking. I feel like they were holding it a little together and here just like. Maybe. Randomly brawl. The heels keep having to like so awkwardly cheat like they're blatantly in front of the ref. Yeah I don't know. But it's the new WCW and they're letting it go. Relax bro. Like there's like you said so much is happening in this but nothing is happening. There's a lot of like chaos energy but no chaos happening. It's really hard to explain. Yeah disco hits kendo stick shots to all the misfits in action and injured Rey Mysterio. He's done this before. Hits a diving leg drop with a chair under his legs to major stash and he's out. Remind me where his injuries lies. Yes I thought. That's what I thought. Would you believe Rey Mysterio has multiple knee surgeries in his life? And yet he's still wrestling. Disco hits a swinging neckbreaker but gets eliminated after a tornado DDT from Lieutenant Loco. Loco keeps doing okay and who he might be eliminated here. Because Sean Stasiak comes out to like break up the pin. Rey Myster hits a bronco buster and Booker T then runs out to make the save despite being fired on nitro. Yeah so this whole thing is boiled down to two people who were never in the match in the first place. So Stasiak and Booker T. Like Booker's rockin full camo too. What is happening? The misfits in action and filthy animals are brawling in the back for a second as we see Booker celebrating. And the ref just raises general erection tags. Okay so the match didn't end. Oh we didn't even know they're calling him Captain erection this whole time. Yeah they fucked up his title. So the match didn't actually end. They just eye you in. Okay because I looked down to write something down and I looked up and they were winning. So I was like I must have missed a couple of ill animations. To be fair if if they're kind of hoovey is being pinned then tidily the misfits in action pinned everyone who's cleared. Okay well. That's not what they're going for here but technically. I was I was very confused. But I didn't want to acknowledge my confusion because I didn't want you to be. No this is a fucking mess. Okay. Okay good. I but again I don't know how much this was called on the fly because. Because they're Conan. Yeah. And what because they don't even really acknowledge Conan and then they go they have the numbers advantage and then all of a sudden it's two on two. And I'm like oh yeah they got a they got a sign from the reps of like yeah pretend he's not here. So yeah Booker T is now with the MIA but we'll get more on this later. He does look great. Like this outfit does a lot for him. He's just not in the undies that's what it is. Yes. Correct. Backstage Eric Bischoff tries to mediate Horace Hogan Kidman and Tori basically says chill the fuck out. Yeah because like we're a family. I don't think so. Kidman doesn't trust Horace. But I feel like they're not addressing why he doesn't trust Horace. No but you can definitely see it in like their nuances behind what Eric Bischoff is saying. Like you can see it in Horace's face of like he has like I don't want to give him praise but he's a good actor. He can he can show his emotions. So he's kind of doing like looks towards Tori and and Billy of like that's my girl brother. Yeah but the way they're verbally telling this story at least just Eric Bischoff is is like oh yeah because these Hulk Hogan's nephew that's why you don't trust him like no he's actively stealing his girlfriend. Why are we brushing over that? Yeah like no either they're bad storytellers which is possible or Bischoff is playing naive. I'm thinking it's the former. Elsewhere backstage Kimberly is still winching to Liz. And in once again close to my best bit but probably not. This was on the shortlist for me too. Liz just tips over the chair steals the bat and runs away. Yeah Kimberly has like given her the whole spiel of like oh I need an assistant you can be my assistant and you can take me to get my Shiatsu massages and do all this that and the other. And Liz is just like fuck you and pushes her chair over. Like incapacitates Kimberly. Stills bat runs away great moment. Which I guess we should remember this because um I feel like what happens later could happen here but I should mention in this segment Kimberly has an accurate accurate opinion on broccoli in this segment. This is what this fucking program has become. Let me tell you about broccoli. So this segment opens with Kimberly talking to Liz about her broccoli preferences. And she says like broccoli should just be the florets. No broccoli should ever have the stems on it. And I'm like correct. You are fucking correct. The only good part about broccoli that is worth eating is the floret. That is where all the flavor comes from. I don't know if it's all the nutrition but that's only that's the only part that I will ever eat. And that same opinion carries over from broccoli to lettuce for me. If you give me a salad and it's all stems I'm going to throw it in your face. You're probably not the dog. I am rattled. But that was the first time in a long time that I'm like you know what Kimberly you're fucking right. Let's talk about broccoli. Elsewhere backstage Vince Russo is mumbling with Rick Steiner and Tan Gabit. And Tony Shivani is like what are they saying and Bobby he actually goes if you shut up baby we'll fucking hear him. Elsewhere elsewhere backstage Shane Douglas is looking for Terry Funk. He like attacks two PAs while he's looking for them. Like what did the PAs do? In the arena Chuck Palumbo makes his entrance to Lex Luger's theme. Yeah he still has Lexa's theme so he really is. No this is the first time he's at it. I thought he came out to it before. On nitro he's come out to it. We noted how generic his music was last episode. So you can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm 90% sure at least on one episode of nitro Chuck has come out to Lex's theme. Maybe like his first one because we're trying to like play in the middle. Wouldn't shock me. I think that he has done this before. I only really noted it because we talked about how bad his music was last episode. True. But it really just feeds into the who are you Chuck Palumbo. You don't have a character you're kind of nothing. So he's here to face the wall brother. Come to her Lily makes the note that the wall is just so big. He's so big. They trade clubbing blows to start. For some reason there's tables at ringside. The reason is if tables match someone could have said that. No one ever tells us that. The wall hits a suplex and then drops Palumbo on the ropes. Big boot from the wall and he signals for the table. Palumbo counters a move but the wall grabs him and signals for a choke slam from inside the ring to the table at ringside. Chuck Palumbo ain't taking that bump brother. But you can also tell he's not taking that bump because the wall is showboating for so long. I'm like oh y'all want to see me do it? Oh I'm gonna do it. Oh maybe I'm gonna do it. What do you think Chuck should I do it? No like no. Wall ends up on the apron. Palumbo hits a muscle flexor shot on the wall who falls through the table at ringside and Chuck Palumbo wins. Yeah this one we're like oh apparently it's a table sack. The wall sits up and just chases Palumbo off almost immediately. Very cane style. Yes this is a match. Anyway I'm moving on. I have nothing to say. Never mind that shit. Nothing to say about that match it was really nothing. So Emily can I infuriate you for a second? Oh god. What's Chuck Palumbo's whole thing right now? He's imitating Lex Luger's whole thing. So what would that naturally set up? Lex being pissed at him for some reason I don't know. So like a match between the two of them. Sure. You know what never fucking happens. Oh my sweet summer child this doesn't infuriate me this is not surprising at all to me. Fucking tank haven't been maying all over again. Honey baby sweetie. In my brain I'm like oh they're doing that the great American bash. Nope. I would not be surprised if Lex Luger does not show up again. He takes some time off. He does come back but. This does not infuriate me in the slightest. I'm infuriating. Is it stupid? Sure. Is it annoying? Yeah. Is it surprising? Fuck no. We've talked about this you showed me too much bad wrestling and set up too many like storylines it didn't follow through when I first started liking wrestling that like I don't expect anything to have follow through anymore. Even in real life when things have followed like current day when I say real life. Current day wrestling when things have followed through I'm like whoa. Yeah you are very uh. Jayden. I would say non-optimistic about the Wyatt six. I want to be optimistic. I am not but I want to be. Yeah. Like what are they gonna do with them? Backstage Kimberly goes to Eric Bischoff and says that she lost Liz and Eric Bischoff is just flustered and stressed and doesn't want to be here. Kim really says housekeeping and babysitting are not my forte. Like it's Eric's fault that she lost her. We then get Eric Bischoff, Horace Hogan, Kidman and Tori Wilson coming out to the ring. Bischoff grabs a mic and does like the oh I love this crowd thing. Yeah he has such a shitty thing grand. He has a very good smile for heel wrestling. Which is such a strange sentence but I stand by it. Bischoff says the Grand American bash will be the day the music died. The Hulk Hogan music. The red and yellow pain in my unit. So you're telling me that Eric Bischoff does not want to be a Hulk maniac? No. He doesn't want to have fun with his family and friends. Emily the Hulk Hogan music is going to die. When the Hulksters music goes to heaven. They get Hogan chants and Bischoff's like ah he's not here. Shut up. Yeah that means not you tonight. He's actually not here today. Bischoff says they're all one happy family because Horace now knows what family is all about. Horace then grabs the mic and says he's been here for three years and seen Hulk Hogan ruin countless careers and starts saying something else and Bischoff's like that's enough. You said what you needed to. Yeah what was that about? I don't know. What was Horace starting to say? I legitimately was not a worker. I don't know. It's actually again it's a tape show. You could have just cut from that. Yeah Orbin like can we take that again? We get one of those later. But Eric Bischoff issues an open challenge for Kidman and Horace Hogan. Anybody? I know I said it four seconds ago but wow no one's playing this game. No one's taking me up on my challenge. Wow cowards. We get chronic answering the challenge. No it wasn't there. I know but it's there in my heart. And commentary is like hey they uh they might be the tag champions. Is this going to be a title match? I guess we'll have a no. So it's chronic versus Horace Hogan and Kidman. Chronic beat down Kidman including a tilt to roll backbreaker as Eric Bischoff hops our commentary and is like oh these like so-called tag champions. You're running the company. If you don't know how are we supposed to go? Yeah and commentary questions this a couple of times too. Have like is are the titles up for grabs? Not even that. They don't know what the fucking champions are right now. Technically it's still buffed Agwell. Oh my god we're doing really really well. Big old yikes. Kidman counters it back suplex and it's a sad Kidman faction. Aloha Adams ends up with a full Nelson Slam. A lot of lot of rotating to get there. Kidman almost slips out of Adams's grasp but manages to hit Hurrick and Rana. Horace refuses the tag and then says something to Bischoff. So Bischoff gets on the apron and Horace pys faces him. Horace grabs a chair from Eric Bischoff and then keeps threatening to hit him. They both then get in the ring and Charles Robinson like shields Eric Bischoff from getting hit with the chair. Brain Clark offers up Kidman to get hit with the chair but Horace hits Brian Clark and then dt's Brian Adams on the chair and Horace pulls Kidman on top of Clark so he and Kidman win. Commentary notes they don't know who the tag champions are or if these two are on the same page. We got nothing. And what a fucking mess. We got nothing. As much as I'm hitting not really enjoying the Kidman and Hulk Hogan storyline, Horace Hogan was not the special sauce that few did needed. No, I'm curious to see how it works out with the like the Tory of it all but he's not what we need. It seems like you're already setting up a feud for Kidman after Hulk Hogan while Hulk Hogan should be the big feud. Right. In a locker room the franchise confronts Norman Smiley and Ralphus. Norman says he doesn't know where Funk is so Douglas punches him but Norman does have the line you know how much to get paid double what you did. Well it's not wrong. Douglas takes Ralphus to the ring and throws him in the ring, stomps him, so the wall comes out to make the save. That's the wall brother. Why? Because they are kind of feuding and they have a tables match at the Great American Bash. I didn't even know they were feuding. Yeah, they... What a cold feud. Well they're feuding because Shane Douglas brought the wall out to be his partner and then Shane Douglas left the wall behind to fight chronic on his own. So that's the feud. Cool. What a feud. The wall hits a big boot. They go to the floor. Shane Douglas just casually lays the wall's head on the announce table. It's like I'm going to go do a dive from the apron. Sure. So he jumps, the wall catches him by the throat. Chokeslam Shane Douglas through the announce table. I mean what's always kind of a cool spot. Yeah. Especially the little like Rem shackled ones that WWE does. Yeah I mean it was also very warranted. So yeah that's going to be a match at the Great American Bash. Cool. We got 18 days to forget about it. We go backstage. Mean Jean is here with a misfits in action and Booker T. But he's not Booker T anymore Emily. Who is he? He is G.I. Bro. And Broing is half the battle. No. Yes I don't let Joke is staying in. Which also sets up our outro music for this show. Oh we didn't mention the Boise joke. Oh go ahead. Sorry before the Shane Douglas segment with Ralph. It's very critical that we hit this. Before all of that that we just talked about with the franchise and the wall and brother whatever. Tony Shaw is talking about upcoming shows. And he says like they have a show coming up in Boise. And he goes to Bobby's like do you know where Boise is? And Bobby of course goes. It's about 100 miles from girlsie. I love him. Emily's struggling everybody. I love it. It's funny you laughed too. I did. Do not embarrass me. I laugh but he's willing to go back for it. Oh I had to. I made a note. I needed to talk about it. I didn't really care about Shane Douglas getting franchised. The franchise got franchised. That's funny. But girls use funnier. Booker T is too good for this. So here's my thing. Yes. However if you're going to get fucked by WCW and you're going to get put into a stupid gimmick. Booker T is coming out on top with this. He looks good. He can sell this gimmick. He has all the words in the verbiage for it. Because apparently this was his thing like what you said 10 years ago. Yeah I don't think I don't think it's the same verbiage from then. This could have been way worse. When he came out and said GI bro and he looked at me I was like oh that's not what I was expecting and that's fine. We're not looking at Lieutenant Loco here. I think he has this gimmick for six weeks or less. I just really like the look. I love the all. Ironically. I really love the all camo look. Like especially on him it just looks very cool. Very powerful. Very clean. Well because he's also wearing like actual color camo versus the bright like neon camera. Yeah that's stupid. He's wearing like real camo. So GI bro wants Sean Stacy act tonight. Okay we're also going to argue about this. Can you copy that? I'm going to continue to call him Booker T. I'm going to call him GI bro. His name is Booker. He thought I said it was not. He's a king. I did know that they're like fine calling him Booker T again. Right in time for him to change his name. Right in the back. Vince Russo and Jeff Jarrett argue. Steiner does push-ups with one of the ladies on his back. Kevin Nash is also prepping for their match later by drinking a coffee and or air quotes around coffee and read a newspaper. Kimberly tells security to go look for Liz and to get her more lotion. Thus paying off the joke. I don't know. What joke? Let me get Sean Stacy act versus GI bro. Booker. Bro still has his Booker T theme. Don't call him bro. Too bad. Stacy act beats down bro and does some Mr. Perfect mannerisms. GI bro rips his pants off and jokes Stacy act with them. This is how you do tear away pants. This was so clean, so effective, so beautiful, so like well used. This is how you do tear away pants. Take notes Lex Luger. GI bro takes his vest off on the floor and I'm like all right. If he takes off all the GI bro gimmicks he's now back to being Booker T. But his little under you say GI bro. Booker hits a clothesline in the corner and tries for a 10 punch spot but is dropped on the ropes. Stacy act hits a diving clothesline from the top. Booker manages to counter a back suplex and eats a big clothesline. Stacy act locks in a rest hole for a second but then manages to hit a gut wrench power bomb and then Stacy act grabs a chair. Booker ducks it and hits a scissor kick and a Harlem sidekick as commentary just keeps masturbating about the lax DQ rules. We don't need to bring it up every fucking show. Are they like getting hit for it in some forums or something online of like people saying oh they're going too easy on these wrestlers whatever yada yada. Like why do they need to keep bringing it up? There must be some other discourse that we're not privy to. We get a bookend to Stacy act which I'm like oh that needs a new name and GI bro gets the win. Sean Stacy act and hits Booker with a chair post match hit some stomps. Who's the winner brother? Yeah who's the real winner? This is actually a fine match. Actually I enjoyed this match a lot. This is a pretty good match. Minus the who's the real winner brother which kind of annoyed me. I'm like oh yeah I like this this was good. Booker T is a good wrestler. And Stacy acts fine. Yeah he can carry his own he was fine and like I like this new gimmick for Booker. I'm on board. I like it's better than whatever the rest of the misfits and action got. You're telling me it's better than huge erection Emily. Yes major stash. We didn't see a previously recorded mic today interview with Sting. This is an interesting interview. I kind of like this. I didn't. No? I like the glimpse into characterizations. I liked it in theory but in practice I wasn't as into it because Sting is just on one during this whole interview. Yeah he seems irritated that he has to be here. But like maybe in character. He's irritated he's still fucking working this feud. Well maybe. Sting says that Vampiro is nothing to him and says he's better at mind games than anyone including Vampiro. Mike did I ask what Sting sees himself in Vampiro? Sting says 10 years ago he was just as sick and twisted as Vampiro is. And you know 10 years ago I had the same fire that Vampiro does now. And I still have that fire so don't you even start on me Mike today. Oh my god. Jesus dude. Yeah he both like leaned in and detested the fact that he was being compared to Vampiro. Sting gets agitated when Mike implies that Vampiro is getting under Sting's skin. He's like he's not under my skin I'm not annoyed okay and I'm like. Lie better. And then he gets asked about the human torch match and he's like I've never been in one. I think someone on fire to win a match is stupid. But I never turned down a challenge. Even I don't want to do it I'm gonna do it. Mike today asks very simply is this match worth risking your career? And then the lights go out. We hear Vampiro answer. Mike today immediately is calling for security. And it's very clearly a camera like fade back in because half the set is on fire. Yeah. Yeah so the whole set is back is on fire. I guess the whole set it's a little like two little sections of pipe and draper. But like highly flammable pipe and draper because this shit goes up quick and it's just gone. It's like paper pipe and draper almost. It was a cool visual. I don't know I didn't mind this because I like getting into Sting's head. I like hearing from him. He's one of those people I don't detest hearing talk. So I like when we can have these opportunities where it's literally just talk and you're not going to get interfered by fucking Russo. Yeah I just thought this was kind of like wasn't bad but yeah Sting's energy in this whole thing was kind of strange to me. Yeah but I think that that's kind of leading into that whole that feud you know. Like he's irritated that this feud is a thing. Both any character and out. We didn't get me and Jean interviewing Kimberly who just complains like all women do. Oh god that's the way this is written is Vince Russo going. Women always complain about their shopping and their shampoo and it's like Vince Russo's married. Vince Russo married a woman. Do I need to remind you of that all women promotion? Again he married a woman. I need to I need to meet that woman. Are you okay? But yeah it's just like it's like every stereotypical like oh my nails broke when I did this and they didn't have this and this was the wrong brand and I'm like but. Okay have you ever broken a nail? Especially an acrylic nail that hurts so fucking bad. And fight me. In the middle of all this winching Liz comes up attacks Kimberly and like drags her off via a bandana. She kind of like takes a note out of Booker's new tearaway pants and kind of gets something very similar to that and wraps it around Kimberly's neck and like drags her out. It looked like the same tearaway pants almost. Then we get DDP coming to the ring and says he has three words for Eric Bischoff. You really suck. Tell him. This was a bad promo from DDP. No this is sad. Literally my note on that is hot start here. And it doesn't get better. Yeah he's too fired up for the energy of this show and where he's at in the feud. Yeah. Because DDP says that Bischoff didn't make DDP. He busted his ass and that pisses you off Bischoff. DDP then notes that Bischoff stole his wife and had Mike Awesome take out Canyon and shifts to Mike Awesome. Can I call you Mikey? No you cannot. And then we get Liz, dracking Kimberly the ring. He's like oh shit look at this. So Liz bends Kimberly over DDP's knee. There's not a chair in the ring for some reason. Yeah what was their chair? And DDP spanks Kimberly while like going over the bad thing she did in the background of the shot. Oh my god hold on. I hate this so I'm going to run you through this because this is amazing. So while this whole uncomfortable scene is happening where Kimberly is bent over DDP and he's just smacking her ass. It's very uncomfortable. It's not sexy. Kimberly has gone back up the ramp in a very like you know what? I've done my duty. Take your wife. Do what you will. So she's walking to go back and she turns to look back at the ring. Chuck Palumbo comes out, kidnaps her and just takes her off the stage. They never cut to this once. This all happens in the background. They kind of cut to it once but it was not cutting to the projector. Yeah that's because at the same moment we see Mike Awesome in Canyon's hospital room and it looks like we're cutting more to that. But even the editors are like this is important like but Liz getting kidnapped in the behind this background is so like what the fuck are we doing guys? This is so stupid. I fucking loved it. I loved it. I wanted them to not get anywhere closer to where they were until she was fully off the stage. I wanted this to fully exist in the background. Loved it. Yeah so Mike Awesome is in Canyon's hospital room. I would have loved it more if she didn't like struggle a little bit. She struggled a little bit but not much. If she just allowed Chuck to pick her up and just flop her over, she went out of an apartment. Awesome threatens to beat up Canyon and then tells the camera crew to like all right shut it down. I want to leave the less to TDP's imagination. So he did nothing. I again I continue to be mildly convinced that Canyon's going to turn on TDP. He's going to come back and they're going to do like a brain damage angle. Oh god. During the break TDP called for security to get to Canyon's room and it's now time for our WSW Thunder main event. It is Jeff Jarrett with Vince Russo versus Kevin Nash versus Scott Steiner for the WSW title. It's more so sold as a two-on-one but it is technically a three-way dance. Yes. After Scott Steiner comes out, Russo notes that he's not going to be the ref for this match. Kevin Nash's music hits and Vince Russo acts surprised. You booked this match. Yeah. Why are you surprised? So you booked a match that Kevin asked for. Of course he's here. He asked for it but Russo bails so Kevin Nash follows him through the crowd. Despite the fact that you literally were choking him in the ring in the middle of the show. Demanding a match with Jarrett. Not a match with Russo. Yeah. Huh? His commentary is like oh I guess this is a one-on-one now. Yeah at that moment when they said that on commentary you paused and I looked at you and he was like what did I just miss. You're like nothing. Nothing. Steiner hits an elbow drop on Jeff Jarrett and then press slams him. Nash suddenly comes back to the ring and Russo appears on the stage with security. So then because we can't have a triple threat match. Scott Steiner goes to fight Russo in security. Oh my god. For some reason referee Billy Silverman stops Scott Steiner from using a bat on Vince Russo's not in this match. Why? They wincy towards the stage. Tank Abbott and Rick Steiner have kidnapped Shakira and Medasia. I totally missed it. It was tank and Rick Steiner. Why is there so many women being kidnapped? Why is kidnap because women are weak Nick? Women are weak. They're just going to go outside and get kidnapped Nick. It happens all the time in New York. Scott goes to save them. Russo then gets in the ring but Nash goes to power bomb him. Jeff Jarrett stops that with the baseball bat and then hits uninteresting offense to Nash. We get a ref bump for literally no reason. Because the referee doesn't fucking matter. Why are we bumping the ref? Well they do a ref bump because oh we're doing a title belt shot. Because they do the ref bump belt shot Nash wakes the ref up to pin Jeff Jarrett and then Russo pulls the ref out of the ring. Why did you do the first bump? Because fuck you that's why. Russo then guitars referee Billy Silverman and Jesus Christ. He got all that one. Oh my god yeah he took all of that. There was no, there was no, I don't know what to say. It looked painful. It looked actually painful. We got a chair shot to Nash. Russo takes forever putting on a referee shirt but Nash kicks out and I'm like I don't think you were in a rough shirt on Nitro were you? No. So you don't need to be in a rough shirt for this? No. Within here the security has stopped Mickey J from getting to the ring. So Scott Siner then emerges from backstage and like bulldozes all of security. Were you saving your women? Why are you back? Because they were saved. They're fine. The way that he bulldozes them though it's it looked like a move out of like Mario or something where you just like turn on a mo and you just run through. Like his arms were up and he just like. He got the star and just. Yeah. So Steiner then goes after Vince Russo. Kevin Nash power bombs Jeff Jarrett and Mickey J counts the pin. So your new WSW champion for the 16th title change this year. Kevin Nash. Oh my god. Nash celebrates with Scott Steiner who I guess was fine not winning the title. Yeah it's fine. I'm going to be fine. That is the show. Emily thoughts on this made event. What the fuck? Yeah. What the fuck? Remember when um you're not going to have cluster finishes here in WCW? What the fuck? I don't I don't know there's there's nothing else to say. Because again like am I surprised? No. Is this going to last long? No. What am I supposed to say? What am I supposed to think? All right. How long do you think Kevin Nash holds the title for? How long did Jarrett hold it for? Um I think he holds it until not great American for the record. Jeff Jarrett wanted on nitro the sorry was awarded it on nitro the day before. I think he has it through great American bash but not until the pay per view after that. Okay. That's a long time. Especially for the amount of changes that we're having but. Yes pay per view after that is bash the beach. I don't think he has it at bash the beach. Okay. That's my final stance. Okay. I'm wrong. I don't have to wait and see. I'm wrong. Nick has a really bad face when I run I'm wrong. You're going to love the next nitro. He's going to be next episode. You're going to fucking hate it. Next episode cool. This is me rescinding my my guests and now I'm saying it's next nitro. That's on this show as a whole. Not as bad as that that was going to be. Yeah this was you know I think it was necessary for us to watch because of the title change but outside of that you could really feel that for the most part thunder is a holding pattern where it's like we don't we really can't take a full step on stories. We could take a quarter or maybe even a half step. This is the closest it's felt like they have gone in a while at least to take that full step. Like where most of the state stagnant like I feel like some some story stuff happened here. What comes to mind? Well I mean it's not necessarily like a story thing per se but giving Booker to the new character like that's yes but he was also like openly with the MIA last episode and Lily said stay tuned for next week. Sure. That's what I mean it's all little half and quarter stops. It's never if they if they didn't do that. Liz getting re-kidnapped then that would have been a storyline. That would have been a storyline jump. Um what else? Daphne suddenly being engaged. Yeah but that also might be nothing. We might have that might be wrong. Terry Funk. Terry Funk being here still. Oh so I did show Emily the clip from the next thunder of Terry Funk getting kicked by a horse. Oh my god. And then yelling at the horse. No you deserved it you disturbed the horse. It's your own fault. Well Nick that is the episode. Yes next up is the May 29th WCW Monday Night Show. We got two more before the Great American Bash. But before that we do have to get to our best bit worst bit and NDP. We do. Unfortunately. So Emily what is your best bit on the show? You're not gonna be surprised. No. It's Liz. It's Liz getting kidnapped in the background. Tell me that's all the best thing to happen on the show. The problem is that if you fall under the so bad it's good you get mad at me for that sometimes because I know if I had to pick a best match it was definitely the Booker T-match. Yeah I think I'm gonna go stage yeah yeah that was obviously the best match. I think that's the one thing that's like good as intended. Yes sure yeah they didn't intend for the Liz segment to be segment. The Liz shot to be the best to be good but boy was it. So Emily what is your worst bit? I am actually going to give it to a match. It was the misfits versus filthy animals. Fucking terrible. I hated that match. I think that one gets a little bit of a pass for me just because they're so panicked and going on the fly. I guess they're panicked but that panic wasn't matched with like creativity or good or like they didn't have the good chemistry that that kind of like improvisation needs. It was long it was slow it was it was a lot happening with nothing happening. It was just bad it was hard to watch. It just sucks because I never want to give it to a Rey Mysterio match ever. But here we are. I think I'm going to go with the main event just because it is the epitome of everything wrong with Vince Russo booking. Yeah what the fuck? Like it's it's wild to watch like it's a rare worst bit where I'd be like almost go out and watch it but yeah I don't think I was thinking it was maybe the chronic and horror scene Kidman but maybe it's Kidman and the in-ring action was fine. There's something there there could be something there. The problem was even the in-reaction for the main event was boring. Yes. I mean I actually like in the ring work I'm like oh there's nothing here. Correct. It's it's just smoke and mirrors. Yes. And then Emily who is your MVP? We can only do it one last time. It's Bobbie here baby. For one more time one last time for his funny little quips. Tell me where Boise is. Tell people to shut the fuck up so we can hear storyline happening. That is a good one. I am actually going to go with a very weird dark horse that I stand by. In your worst bit there was one person I felt actually held the match together and that is Lieutenant Loco. You're giving it to Shavu Guerrero? I am. I thought Shavu did really well in that match. He did have a couple glimmers with good wrestling. I thought he held it together best anybody which is funny because he held it together who he threw it apart. Yeah it's funny because he's not on the team of the person that got hurt. No. But yeah I thought he looked good in that match. I'm not sure Shavu Guerrero has ever gotten MVP. I think you might have given him one. I don't know. We'll have to consult the spreadsheet brother. Don't worry we'll let you guys know next episode. If not next episode the next bitsies. Or you can look for yourself on all of our back catalogs. Oh what a sick way. All of our previous episodes available on our podcast Spotify, YouTube, Samsung podcast, Deezer, everywhere besides SoundCloud. 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Emily this is the last thunder we're going to do until the last thunder ever. I'm not going to miss thunder. Yeah. The last thunder is going to be really fascinating. Yes I'm glad to leave thunder to other podcasts. Yes I know there are a couple of podcasts out there that just do thunder and like different eras and whatever so I love our thunder episodes. Other people do it too. In a similar vein I realized we're only ever going to review two ros before WCW ends. Really? January 4th and then the one that's the night of the last night show. And even then I think I'm going to do like a special spliced edit. Yeah I don't blame you. That's going to be so fascinating. I mean we've definitely watched that raw before. Yeah. But we got a long way to go before there and still a little bit of ways before the Great American Bash. So until then I'm Nick. I am Emily. And thanks for listening to the Butts the Seats podcast. Bye! [Music]