What We Watched
Movie Club #46 - 1917
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My voice was internal It was Jeff Jeff's Nassau What we were there are definitely dolphins you doubt the dolphins Jeff I did that was if anything I could for whatever reason I can see manatees kind of hanging around in there for sure I was even more confident about the dolphins on the you know Then the manatees Anyways, what we want we watch all right. Well, oh No, he's getting power through Brandon Jeff look at this shit. Look Amazon. Oh dang it He's got a river river dolphin. So is that one you can buy on Amazon? Is that what that's saying? You're the worst Jeff What we want whoa watch hey, we're back. We're back. That's Europe in the upper left again. Just how it was Just start just for you and nobody else. Thank you usual flicker Yeah, lots of flicker We had a meeting we decided to ignore that the first rule of flicker club is you don't talk about flicker club All right, well welcome to the podcast welcome to today's episode We are back. My name is Brandon. I've got Matt Hollen back the original Matt the OG I've got Jeff Alondo over here as well And here, but there are older mats just so we're on the all the same page Now you're the oldest Whoa, I love to be like, oh, thank you. Oh wait, fuck you Young Buck. I don't know what the hell this came from Jeff child Yeah, I'm okay with that At this point in my life I'll take what I can get. Yeah, right. Exactly. We didn't tell you start becoming the old guy You're like wait when did when the fuck did this happen shit? We did my back start hurting so much Roughly when I played like a hundred something holes of this golf in like a week. Yeah, that's a lot That's roughly one. That's a lot. Well today on the podcast. This this is a movie review podcast It's a podcast for movie lovers. It's a podcast for TV lovers and it's for those who like numbers guys cuz today We've got a numbers game not like, you know games go check out our games on YouTube and all the other ones If you don't play along fantastic, they're out there. No today the movie we're talking about is a numbered movie Can I make it any more confusing for you? 23 ah you're so close so close seven What's everyone's favorite number what's everyone's favorite number 17? That's the only correct answer 17 17. Oh, Helton. Yeah Sports sports sports No today, we are talking 1917 the Sam Mendez epic war World War one Thriller, I guess. I don't know. They did a paternity test for all of Denver children How many would be like related to Todd Helton cuz just everybody's like, please fuck my wife Anyways, go ahead Yeah, yeah, absolutely you kidding me Hey, that's our Hall of Famer, bro All right, we're talking about 1917 17 Movie Club This is the kickoff to war movies because of course, right? It's the July 4th of July Independence Day fighting war and Killing that's what America's about. So what better way to celebrate that than by watching more movies? Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to I'm gonna call a shot a little bit But because I put in I started averaging all of the movie clubs that we've done like all the grades for per month And I think this has a good shot at being one of the highest average rating I think of all time because we are doing 1917 we're doing Jojo rabbit, and then we're doing full metal jacket. Yes, right? Yeah, that was yours I don't remember that on Thursday. Oh, so you're trying my highest average for all three and the correct for all three Right now. Yeah, do you want to do you have any idea what the highest average would be? Anything in the month. Let me just let me just take a look at the scores, but let me just look at the months real quick I mean, let's not go through that's not good. It is the best is November early America We had Django the hateful eight and there will be blood at eight point. Yeah, five nine That makes sense. Um second is a new beginnings one which is count to Monte Cristo Silver lining playbook and Joker. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Those are the two high right now at five eight point nine eight point five nine and eight point three five Okay, and then we have two really low ones at the moment that are like next to each other seven point five two is The king is the fighting one. Yeah, pick ass fight club and raging bull and let's be honest fight club really saved that one Yeah, one of the other one that one and then the other one is the the October One. Yeah, seven point five one. So that technically that's the lowest one that actually is. Oh, it Paranormal activity and the cadre and that's the lowest with four and not just three right and then That's that's what's crazy is that has four that has an a greater chance of being the higher one and it's still one of the lowest What is the lowest? Oh, it is the lowest That's the lowest at five seven point five one. Wow. Wow. Hmm. But anyways Yeah, so I think this has a good this month has a good chance of taking the new highest spot Yes, I think so I really do think so it really depends on full now jacket because I haven't seen it in its entirety by any means So yeah, I know right. I imagine that's the gonna be the one that you know might level it off It's been a very long time since I seen it And so I don't want to like give opinions yet on that one Because I'm just gonna go in with like a fresh slate and try not to have it influenced by what I think I remember about it Right, right. Yeah, I I've seen it once and I remember enjoying it and then I'm gonna go and go and basically I don't remember, you know much as much about this. So Very very open to it, but I'm very excited to talk Kubrick very excited to talk some more oh He's so excited. He's so excited. No, he's back. Did I hear him? No wait? I thought I heard I thought I heard a long sigh You're back, right? For a second there for a line freeze. Oh, okay. Cool. Cool. Cool. Oh, see I thought I heard I thought that was you being frustrated. No, no, not at all. No, all right. Let me try this game I'm very excited to talk some Kubrick. I'm very excited to talk some Tyka and I'm very excited to talk some Sam Mendez So this is a very very fun movie club month. Definitely. Let us know what you guys think about you about these picks for War month with some of your favorite movies are What's in your some of your favorite war movies are What you watched on the 4th of July if everyone watches Independence Day or not? 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Yep Yeah, we'd love to be your companion podcast for all of the movies and for some of the TV shows that you watch go check us out With our last of us rewatch and we're currently midway through or almost midway through The fallout series episode three comes out on Thursday. Yeah, look out for that and Sweet. All right guys. You guys. Oh, I get I want to see you guys all to get together and pose like you're a band Like your actual fault the fallout boys. Okay, okay If I can yeah, there you go if I can afford to get some jumpsuits, maybe maybe you know we'll do a little cosplay, but that's Depends on if someone wants to help me with that looking at you everyone who listens Pete for our shit. He's by by me shit My me shit help Anyways, all right guys so 1917 Have you guys both seen this before? Yes, yes, I saw it in theaters and then I think I think I saw it once on streaming and then I had bought the movie And this is the first time I actually I actually I finally unwrapped it to watch it I had the 4k blu ray. This is still unwrapping How does that feel Brandon? Yeah, does that that's what it's like on the other side somebody had it the DVD and haven't seen it Oh, I guess you've seen it before. Yeah, you've seen it before so DVD or blu ray blu ray. I was about to say This deserves this deserve a watch roger deacons films and dvd Jeff is your is your tv a 4k tv it was um before broke I watched it on my projector still but I have a I have a 4k like Workflow basically my receiver takes 4k content and then it can output the 4k content. Gotcha So heard uh, yeah, cuz I I watched my digital copy my blu ray I did plug in the blu ray player But I decided to go with the streaming version because you know what why why not? I mean Netflix these days depending on your account uh streams and 4k too You know what so you didn't watch it on Netflix you watched it on your paid download version correct Does that not like is that not the opposite of what you the whole reason you have dvd's and stuff? Yeah, that feels like counter to so you just you want okay You just want to buy as many movies any way you shape or form you can it's for the collection, man I Mean hey, I have the blu ray and with the blu ray comes digital copies So instead of putting the disc in I decided I just clicked and it was fun. It was fun. Hey, me too. I did also I put the disc in because I'm a real fan Whoa Whoa, bro I Also got to watch some of the special features and I watched a portion of the movie with roger deacons This is commentary for like the first like uh 30 minutes and then I had to go to bed I wasn't about to watch the full movie again, but shame on you. Shame on you Was fascinating. It was fascinating. That'd be horrible. Just you know, faction Put it put uh Something over the projector right the the face or put the put the lens cap on and then just listen to the audio Yeah Come on, man That feels like me burning minutes on my bulb my lamp. I'm not watching it That's what that sounds like to me Put that shit back on the broken tv. We'll burn some of that. There you go. There you go That's true. I would yeah, I would have opted for that But yeah, I'm glad you uh brought brought up the special features because this is one that I mean the entire time Uh, I just sat there going how the fuck did they make this movie? Oh, dude. They like listening to the roger deacons commentary He was pointing out which type of like camera rig they were using at what times and then he was telling you when there was a camera blend They blended so many cuts. Um that looked flawless like he pointed out and I'd be like I can't even see where you guys cut right there Like it's so I was gonna say I wrote down I think they got better as the movie went because like the most obvious one was the first one with the crate Like the first one That wasn't the first no. What was the first one first one was like, uh, I didn't note it down I don't think because I'm because I thought the camera the the movie started with The picture of the the field and then they pulled back the two of them are sitting down Is it when he stood up? That would be the only other thing? No, so they changed camera rigs for that stand up But the the first cut that I can recall that he mentioned was when they enter into the room where the general is It's when it gets dark and there's like uh, he's walking his like following the cameras following them into that little room Um where like the little oil lamps and stuff are He's like he just like yep That was a blend and I'm just like there were a couple times where I just like paused played it back And I was just like man. I can't see any sort of jump or anything. It looks so good See I I would put I feel like I put a good amount of money that when they were they were doing the walk-and-talk They were doing the errand-sorkin and the the guys carried a crate across the street one there for sure I was gonna say and there's that one I'm 99 percent sure it was before Going to see the general but but yeah because that one was honestly that one wasn't even fantastic because that was like the frame like jumped in I felt like um after the crate so I was like that one was the obvious one and then it got Spectacular after that like yeah, you know, I can point out every once in a while, but they got so good at it Dude, there was so many like there were some that were just on pans that they did like from one looking down one trench to the other That looks like I could not see it and then and then sometimes they didn't even cut on those pans sometimes they kept rolling So like they blended it all so well if people don't understand what we're referencing is the movie 1917 is it's loaded loaded with long takes long Continuous takes that usually last you know most I feel like most takes an average movies last You know, I don't know if it's a if it's a minute long take that's still long You know, that's actually fairly long. Yeah between there will be cuts between you know different perspectives And when they do that that means they shoot multiple different angles so like all of them could be different Um takes, you know, oh it took them 15 times to do this then we'll jump over this one than this one in this one They went one we said action then they did a very long um scene people talking people walking um and then sometimes Because that is incredibly hard and they want to blend it in so it looks like one gigantic take they do a hidden cut So something cut crosses the screen and like probably what 95 if not a hundred percent of the screen is gone And they do a cut at that point. So it's it's generally pretty seamless So if you're watching you don't realize it it looks like you know the last five minutes have been one continuous take in reality It's oh there was a secret one here. So it was really only like Four to five, which is still impressive. Yeah, but it's like it The interesting part about thinking about this movie is that it's basically a one or the entire time It's like they blended it all to look like it's one shot the entire time aside from the fact of when that character gets Uh knocked out and goes unconscious. That's like the one yes very visibly blunt cut But like um in an interesting like this is on IMDB's trivia, but according to Sean Sean, Sam Mendez Wrong man. I do. I do too. I do too. Oh, Sam Mendez will be the last one He um he says the shortest unbroken shot was about 39 seconds long, which is pretty I want to say typical, but then the longest Continuous shot was eight and a half minutes long. Was it him running in front of the trench? I don't know which one was the longest one honestly. I do know that there's one um There's one scene that I noted in there when it was uh when Blake's character is dying As soon as they they hit that composition where it's just sitting there and it's just relying on the actors at that point That was like a five-minute long Like see moment. It was like the scene in the shot lasts longer obviously, but they just sat on that still composition Of him him laying on the ground after he got stabbed Yes, and he was dying and they were doing the talking and I'm just like man the amount of everyone was like cast crew everyone was on there just like Fullist a game for this film like it's such a fucking It's a technical achievement. Yeah, it's a technical masterpiece just through and through It's a hundred percent just like I said, I mean the entire time I just sat there going How how do you pull something like this off from from trying to make it look like a single cut to the the set design to the wardrobes to the acting to Uh the score and and the the sound design like everything is just so grand and so epic That it's just it's a spectacle to watch and you literally you can't take your eyes off the screen And in part because it's a continuous shot right it's a floating camera Um, you know, there's a lot of movement all over the place like there's not much stillness Um, there's a couple moments of peace that book in the movie, which I love I you know, I want to I want to touch on later But besides that You know, there's there's really motion throughout everything and it kind of yeah, you know, it it helps You just stay engaged because you're in the character's perspective like you're you're right there next to him You're right there with whatever they're he's doing wherever he's going You're you're and it feels like you're right there as well feels like it's you know, 1917 again It feels like the middle of europe and it's just absolutely Well nearly flawless and the big reason they went this direction for this like huge technical like challenge was For it to feel like it's real time like we're literally following behind these characters Counting down the seconds and minutes and everything with them. Yeah, which is yeah really fascinating And it's really cool. And then even to jump on top of your comment about like Um, the some of the stillness of the shots and things like that like they used three rigs Um Essentially for well technically for there's a technocrine that they used for a lot of the still stuff where they need it to be a lot Like less jittery then say on the steady cam or like the trinity arm and then um But then they also yeah, they used a steady cam, but they rigged it differently so that was skinnier And um so that like the steady cam op could walk through these tight trenches and rooms and stuff like that So it's like less bulky, right? Um And then the trinity arm, which is I don't know if you guys are familiar with the arre trinity arm But it's uh, basically a steady cam vest with a I'm hesitant to call it a pole But it's like basically you get kind of the combination of a jib arm because it has a gyroscope gyroscope with the camera And you can like do jib moves lower to the ground and up while still having on a steady cam vest um And then on top of that, they also did wire cam runs like Um, there's that big pit shot where it goes like follows them down where there's water They had it on a wire run so that it was like the computer was controlling the movement of it going down into the pit All of this when they're crossing the german, uh, the man's land and there's that big one where it's like floating above the water Yeah, yeah, I was lighting across the the surface. Yeah, that was a way of hitting cut and I think there's a hidden cut after that All right, your transitions over the mud and stuff. Yeah, there's one of those but yeah No, they I mean they were jumping from rig to rig constantly and Depending on like certain moves and stuff like that that they wanted for certain scenes and movements. It's just super impressive. Right. Yeah, right Outside of just outside of like not even get into the acting or the the story or any of that side. This is a Like we said, it's a masterclass in technical side of movie making I imagine you know it like even outside of camera work. It's blocking. It's you know Um, you have to remember your lines and your inflections for the entire You know eight minutes that he they did that one. Yeah, um, they also because I Correct me if I'm wrong jeff. They don't I don't believe they used a lot of um Artificial lighting. I think they waited around for lighting to match during the day Yeah, so they waited for the right kind of cloud cover to match as much of it as they could So then you got the other level of like hey, this is going to be a four-minute shot You got everything down and oh shit getting the clouds are there It's you don't have you don't have three chances to like get get it down Be like, you know what? I kind of want to say it like this. Oh, he keeps making me laugh You know, it's just like holy crap And then outside of the blocking in terms of like not only the the guys you're say walking through Uh, we're gonna walk into this farm. Then they're gonna walk into the house. You guys are gonna separate You're gonna go around this way. You're gonna go here. You're gonna stop here The camera's gonna fade in here. Do you have background actors the whole time? They gotta be like, okay You're gonna go around here. You're gonna do this. It is a monumental monumental planning Well, dude, it's so impressive on top of that planning and the special features that I watched they had marked out with like stakes and like uh Like tape I guess on the fields What how long the trenches were gonna be because they had to match the length of dialogue to how long this scene was gonna be in the shot So they like marked it all out so that they could rehearse before they even started digging the trenches and stuff Yeah, I didn't think about that. Yeah, but they match the the the production afterwards to the dialogue Yeah, that way they had about They're about six months or so uh to rehearse which kind of is is what you need Like you need as much time as you possibly can get to nail this in Uh, and you know using whatever you can using string using tape using, you know, uh, you know Actually, you know digging stuff out while it's being built Um, because yeah, I mean one wrong step one one misstep one, you know spike at the camera You know one mist line and it ruins the last seven minutes Yeah, I mean, uh jumping on that there was another thing that deacons was saying in his commentary There was one uh shot that they were doing in the trenches where the the old like the production designer Great job got all these really authentic looking like at like oil lamps and like just all the materials and stuff looked authentic But they had a authentic lighter that apparently kept not lighting correctly in the like as they were already like a minute Or so into the shot so that he like uh deacons was like, oh the poor steady cam I'm rare dude. We had to probably do that take like 40 times because of that lighter along He's like he needed to take a break at a certain point and which was fine. This is just like madam So yeah, it's just yeah the amount of variables that need to play out just right like Insane absolutely And I mean and uh jeff, I don't know if you know, I couldn't find anything I didn't uh have uh give myself a whole lot of time to do a lot of research, which is very unfortunate Um, but like do you know if any of the animals were cgi because I mean you gotta throw yes Animals on top of it right like the rat that was the fakest rat Yeah, this was a rat cg That's one of the ones on all the warts for me. Those all I thought those rats did not look good I like a couple of them were like, okay, you look at them. I was like enough in your life. Yeah, that's no There's no way that's real One of my few warts, but I will say like I'm pretty sure the crows were cg as well Okay, and then um, I think the horse like the well, they're dead horses We're real. I guess whatever Practical effects Horse corpse the other one I can remember is that the cow the cow looked cg to me at the plains were cg Um, and they did also do some painting so there's As I say, I think they still did a lot of like a good amount of cg like I think there was some time they Well, I don't know about the night stuff, but they like, um, I didn't get that far into roger deacons is commentary to know for sure But uh, he did say that there were some shots where Um, you know They had two different fields for these trench scenes that they used and sometimes like there was only so much space They could use for the amount of space that they had to walk So sometimes there would be a tree or something that poked into the frame that they just like had someone Uh like paint out Um, as well as in the intro shot where it starts on the flowers follows them back to the tree and then starts walking with them Technically, he said that there was a technochrain still in the frame Like probably in the center of the frame that they painted out because they transferred over to Steady cam or something. I mean there has to like physically there had to be so much equipment that they like painted out In my mind. I thought like when he was running around the town At night. I thought they set up a couple of those Like orange lights On to kind of like to to make the lights going around But then I thought the background what might have been repainted and it was just like black previously and they just put some extra stuff in there As far as I know for that flare scene, which that this is one of my favorite Gorgeous scenes of the movie to me, but like um, it's so unfortunate You didn't hear deacons commentary about that scene specifically Well, I saw some behind the scenes footage of it at some point, but they did have cranes surrounding the set to where they had like Um special effects of like flares like getting run along the wires to make that certain like move For some flares and stuff so they have like if I remember correctly like four cranes around and then some of those flares Go up the line and just like pass over And then there was um what I think you're referring to mad is that big bonfire I'm calling it the bonfire or whatever one for you where the big I think it's the big buildings on fire But that was a that was a whole lighting rig that they had that they Cg'd to make look like a burning building right yeah, that fire did not look super realistic, but But the color. Yeah, that was another one amazing I feel like i'm trying to think was it the Was did the plane set on fire? Also when it crashed. Yes, I think the plane that fire that fire Look that one looked rigid to me. I don't know well This is what I would say is when it first crashed it looks CG Yes, and then once they got over there then it looked real to me So I don't know if they kind of like blended it into the practical. I imagine so yeah But yeah, the early though I was like initially it was like oh that looks like shit And then as they got there, I was like, you know what actually that looks pretty good that might be real actually But I so I think they might have switched over but i'm not really positive yeah or or you just got you know sucked into the movie and you were noticing things a lot less Than early on you know, that's that's another thing that helps when you have So much action so much plot and so much Momentum is you know people who are critical and looking out for this kind of stuff You we kind of tend to to forget to we're looking out for it because there's just wow, you know, there's a lot Uh more that we're paying paying attention to and and there's a lot more Um incentive to just sit back and enjoy it. Maybe that's part of it Well, I mean I like the difference of like five seconds Like when they the plane crashed and then he walked over there in the next like five seconds While I was still watching that's when it changed for me, but I mean yeah, I don't know I watched mostly technical stuff. We'll get to the story eventually. I you know I got I get bored a little bit story-wise in the middle, you know, I don't know. I'm just like it's cool It's like they did a good job and stuff but at some point I'm just like You know, I'm kind of tired of this. I've been watching the dude run around for a little bit You know, it's nice when we get a break Uh at some point, but I don't know. I didn't need I guess we can get into the story now for you I'm sure we have more technical stuff. I'm sure we'll jump around But yeah, I know I thought I figured I just don't like the like I get what they're doing with the um the french Lady with the baby and stuff, but I was like I probably didn't need that, you know Um Times it was just like it felt like a little repetitive um In terms of you know, we just did a thing Now we got like a long shot. Now. We're just doing the basically the same thing with a different skin We're out of curiosity. Yeah, um for that scene that you mentioned with the french woman Yeah, what what was the intentions? I think that scene do you think I and that was clared to burk And I'm sure that you get wrong I mean, I think the I think the goal was you know to kind of remind us of the civilians and why he's doing this Um outside of just his own, you know His own reasons because of his friend and the brother and his army But they're actually there because you've kind of gotten a lot of it a little desensitives. I think to it Um because you know the war people everyone that's like battling is kind of like fuck this shit You know being in the truck all the boys are like making jokes and like when such a serious thing happen And then you know to show One of the guys even says like hey, why are we here? It's not even our country I think that's absolutely matt. You're a hunter. Isn't right that it's it's to kind of show the civility and and to remind people Uh, there are human beings here The the desensitize was the perfect perfect choice And well even just the conditions of war like these are people that are like, you know It's the same thing with like Vietnam you heard all the time people are just constantly like why are we even here? Like what are we what are we even fighting for? Like what do we and gives you a little reminder of like his personal home life too Because they you know they he really rarely talked about it Um, but I must my assumption at the end because again They didn't even explain really his like pitchers at the very end But my assumption is he has kid like that because she was like, oh, do you have a child and you went really quiet? You know, we got to see how good of a guy he is every and everything and like, you know, it was important Yeah, it was like a hint towards that and it started just by the time we got there. I was like damn guys Yeah, but I also think they're important for pacing wise because otherwise we're just constantly Getting dragged down by everything he has to go through to me. I can't believe this is a two-hour movie I would have bet my life. It was like 220 230 and minimum and if it was more than that or guessed And it's so it's under it's under two hours and I it was still, you know, I yeah, you know, it was for pacing We didn't help that much but yes But I think that's also the point right like uh if we're following this dude in real time It's like we're supposed to feel stressed and tired after that And they did do a good job of that. Yeah, but I will say I also think that The frenchwoman scene is important too because it occurred to me this viewing that once he gets down the river He has to crawl over all those bodies and I'm pretty sure those are all the townspeople bodies Oh, yeah, so it hits him in a different way. They looked like civilians to me. I don't I don't think so I think they had uniforms on hmm Well now Uh, it is on imdb and I was looking at it earlier. It's like the first one before we we move off Off a clear off the frenchwoman I want to get your guys thoughts about uh subtitles that we we got we got the subtitles for um, you know the french to english And so I want to know if you guys think about the intention was that was that supposed to be? um that Um, what's his name? What's our what's our main guy's name? Uh scofield scofield Is that because scofield understands um or is that because you know, that's just for the audience benefit So that we're not just left in the dark and not, you know, uh, sure of what you know We we're trying to interpret maybe but we're not quite there Um because it seemed like they were able to communicate Pretty easily to an extent the two languages to an extent. Yeah, like I imagine it's similar to how Say we try to talk Spanish. It's like we know some words and kind of spanish Spanish to español Signor en chaladas de queso por favor Yeah, did not cha Did not show it's like i yeah, it's like if someone was really Like spinkling speaking in simpler terms to me in spanish. I could maybe understand what they're saying You've also you spent how long in the fucking france. I'm sure you picked some stuff up Totally and especially even to the to the extent of like, you know, you know You kind of will have to learn someone has to learn to communicate with the civilians that you're there with like That you're there to protect and everything Unfortunately, I cannot comment on What was subtitle and what wasn't because I just had subtitles on the whole time Because I wanted some of the in the trench stuff when they were talking. I was like, what do you say? Wait, what do you say? And I was like, I can't keep backing up. I'm just gonna put my subtitles on just so I can actually like Know what he's saying. Sometimes I didn't realize that Interesting. Uh, yeah, no, so yeah, because sometimes when you have subtitles on I mean depends on the format Um, you'll have like the the normal subtitles and then if the film itself has subtitles, like it'll be over I didn't notice the actual writing happened. I didn't notice if they did do that. I didn't notice That happened in a plan of the apes when they were signing. I had it said the Sign it said the subtitles there and then the subtitles went on top of the subtitles What one of the movies one of the movies I had to put subtitles on for plan and I heard what dude I just listened to that episode. There's a third one or whatever. It was insane to me. I watched a good amount I'm like, this is you're like, why don't I don't understand so I love which is this well How long am I going before you tell me and they're not even talking that entire movie, basically It's so funny. That's so funny Um, yeah, so okay. Cool. Uh, and then yeah moving on from from that when uh, matt you you got the picture Um of the of the bodies up. Uh, oh you know I I Don't know I That does look more like uniforms to me like Sort of uniforms. Yeah, I mean this might not be right here Yeah, just this isn't the shot they use though So like they were doing it like a one over the water kind of like pointed 90 to the log Yeah, well, yeah that when he first got there and then he crawled up and then he crawled across Yeah, um and he realized I think I think he realizes. Hey, these are bodies I gotta be you know getting around them. Um, but I love that scene I I love it because It's it's got the petals. It's got those I think whether those were were cherry blossoms or cherry trees in the background I think I went like bike pedal. I went bike pedal And it's got uh, but it's got that that symbolism and it's got that um, you know that that Blake is basically kind of guiding him And and you know saying hey you got to get out of the river here because what are the chances? What are the odds? What's what's the coincidence that he gets out of the river when he does and then stumbles into the other? Uh regiment that he is about to attack like that to me is very, uh, you know, mystic and very supernatural Asking and just kind of saying, you know, hey, I'm here, but god dam to to he's that's all he's going to associate Those fucking petals with his dead bodies because that's when his friend died And then that's now when he's crawling over bodies, you know getting out of the river and those petals are all over the place Yeah, I mean, I think he had pretty heavy heavy plot armor the entire time Um, he got the shit beat out of him. He was more invincible than the freaking cat from Quiet place. Oh, yeah When he was dude jeff tell me you didn't think he would look he reminded you the cat when he was crawling across the uh, the bridge The middle. Yes. Yeah, I was waiting for the creature to go underneath him. I was like Snitzel and nico getting their jobs going. Yeah, he uh, yeah, dude. He got blown up He got barbar in his hand. He got blown up multiple times. He got quote unquote shot And then concussion multiple fights. He almost drowned like he had freaking, uh, plot armor All long as I when he passed out in that house like frankly, I think if you just passed out and of exact Just how tired you are You might have slept for like 10 hours. I was gonna slept sleep was fucking 10 hours, right? Especially with all the injuries and the and i'm sure concussion when he woke up He was head head his head was bleeding like it that's not great to wake up from No, no, it's not great. No, no, that is great to wake up too. It's bad to not wake up from that Yeah, but i'm just not in general blood from your head is not great. I hear you The alternative is not waking up jeff. So I think Waking up to that and just not waking up to that. I see where you can. I know it's me Yeah, he's gonna either way though with that that amount of blood I it occurred to me that I was like, I'm surprised this man does not have brain damage Um because that was a fucking hard hit apparently Yeah And he was just laying there while he's just bleeding out from his head I think i killed the other dude. Maybe he does. Maybe he does have brain damage and oh, I lost you again Uh, oh Brandon was talking apparently Hey, i'm back. Maybe he does have brain damage and he was talking and and the french woman is actually Uh speaking perfect english and he's just thinking that it's it's french He's like bunge or and she's like hello Bonjour. No. I'm here on a foreign exchange student Uh did the uh reminding me her keep keeping the baby reminding me of um Godzilla minus one. Mm-hmm. Where they kept the the kept the baby. Yeah very much so very much so Uh, I uh, I like taking one of the one of the things I did. I took like one two three four five six seven like six or seven timestamps of like pacing wise Um, so the movie was I just i'm wondering if you guys like how well you It felt if the pacing felt appropriate because it was a two-hour movie What what minute mark roughly do you think they got to the front line? So he had the opening the walk they explained everything they started going through The uh, the the dead zone. Yeah, no man's loan. Is it? That place and they got to The front line what how many minutes in do you think when you say to the front liner? You're just talking about the other side like the German one. Yes when they had when we have that giant music swell and yeah, I didn't like that either Heavy anticipation and then they point their guns. There's nobody Yes, that which I will say I didn't love that personally. Oh, I thought that was I thought that was a great beat I thought that was a great comedic beat felt felt a little cheesy to me in like this realism like sure Thought we were doing real and then it was like anyways, what I think those guns are just bulky, but um I would say mark Was I want to say like It was just 20 minutes 20 minutes. Yeah, I was going to say about the 18 20 minute mark 24 minutes. Oh, okay. Okay, then it then it took them eight minutes to get through the front line the german line So he shot the flare off at 32. So a quarter of the movie is when we hit the flare shot Yeah, and one quarter of the movie's gone And it doesn't feel like that to me. It feels quicker like you guys like it feels what you guys said It felt like it would be quicker. The first dude died at 59 minutes. I mean at 49 minutes And it feels like that should be farther into the movie rather than Right. I mean, it almost felt like we were following that character at first. Yes I know a little bit. Yes, which is super interesting that that's Almost the halfway point or roughly the halfway point um So I don't know. I mean it's like yeah, I'd call it third, but yeah I feel like it was it felt like it took a long time for us to get to there Um, and then the rest, you know the last hour or so Um, I feel like a lot more stuff kind of happened Rather than the beginning it started off slower and the pacing kept like picking up and picking up Yes, I definitely agree with that is that it was it was much slower to start and then you kind of just You know you start going through obstacles and and each thing just builds a little bit Uh and things start happening quicker and quicker and and more intense as well I mean you get the you know the explosion in the german bunker Uh, which by the way the germans got so luck the the plot got so lucky that uh, the rats didn't blow up the bunker Before they the english guys got there. Um, hmm. Yeah He and then you know right after that then you got you know a little bit slower with with a little bit of joking around and then Um all of a sudden, you know, then there's a plane crash and then and then he gets stabbed and then he dies And then now we're traveling with a whole different troop and um You know, it definitely definitely picks up as it goes along, but I never felt Uh personally, I never felt felt bored by it. I had never felt like it dragged Um at any times and I felt like it was he was quick enough to really move us along But keep us engaged as well. I was totally with it the whole time Well, I think they just did a good job But like says if you let's like put into perspective like the beginning of the movie versus the end of the movie like the end of the movie Is has the biggest most consistent explosions while he's running through crowds of people and stuff like that There's that one iconic shot that everyone knows about Um compared compared to the beginning when there's not much shooting or like there's no shooting or anything going on But they're revealing so much exposition as we're following these characters like they they have a wide screen like aspect ratio Which I to me feels like they used it really well because we're following the characters in the center of the frame And then on the sides you constantly see, you know, you see these uh what all these other soldiers are like dealing with or working with Passing through all that and then you go into no man's then you see bar like dead bodies Like the death destruction barbed wire like the gruesomeness all over the place It's like they're drawing your attention not only to the characters, but everything else that's around them as well So that kept me engaged during those slower moments in quotations But whereas later on to like a ton more stuff starts happening visually like with whether it's chases or gunfire explosions Um, so I thought they did that really well transitioning from basically Um, what I guess what you could call more somber moments in the beginning where there's not a lot of action But in the same time there's a lot going on Yeah, there's a there's a there's a lot of information Uh in every frame and in every single like uh composition and I love that I I wrote I wrote it down multiple times Like I I love how much information we're actually gathering like from from the background from the foreground from everything in between While these you know our main characters are you know, maybe maybe our main focus But there is so much that we still see Uh, you know that's going on around them that we can pick up on and then we can infer from and then we can get Um, you know, just just data and we can get emotions About what is actually happening and and helps us just kind of put the audience right in the action with with you know With the characters. Um, and I remember really is incredible A great like example of that too is like I remember in the theater is like when he gets his hand cut by the barbed wire Like audiences are just like, uh, fuck that sucks And then later when the other dude trips on him and makes him put his hand that cut hand into the body I remember I remember in the theater. There was literally audibly sounds of like people going like Like it's fucking gnarly. I mean I did it last night when I was fucking watching You're like, oh shit That is infected. He's dead. Yeah at first you're like, oh gross rusty barbed wire That sucks and then you're like, oh, fuck dead body in him Oh That one is pretty gross and I was gonna ask Brandon, uh, if you were him scofield or whatever and he found the bucket of Milk you drinking that? No Yeah, it's like You would not drink it. Absolutely not You like, I don't know. Well, no because I don't like, you know, I don't like normal milk So I mean my thing anyways, but it was a bucket of water Matt would, Matt would carry around a, uh, a little, uh, thing of chocolate syrup So if you came across it, you mix it in Shit's nasty also There's no way Yeah, there's no there's no way because I mean a it's unfiltered Uh, I mean, you know in the early 1900s You don't know there's a lot less There's a lot less, uh, antibiotics and there's a lot less processing Uh, so I guess, you know stomachs could handle handle that stuff But yeah, it's it's completely unfiltered and it's You didn't check for cow's butter long What's that? You didn't check the cow utters, they might have a filter on it Slap a filter on that, it builds up and then it filters out Interesting, interesting And then that that cow knows to to go to that specific bucket when it needs to release a little bit Um, yeah, no, it's just a warm warm milk that's been sitting out For god knows how long. No, thank you. Absolutely not Uh, but again, you know Great for the plot that they found it and and how convenient I mean when we got to the to the uh to the baby, uh, with the french woman, uh, I went Uh, I completely forgot that he dipped his canteen in milk and he has fucking, uh, you know raw milk Did he even also, did he even drink from it since then? I don't think so But I mean if he did, we did we definitely didn't see it Mm-hmm, uh, I think we saw everything So if we if he did it, well, how's he did stuff while he was unconscious? True true that german dude is actually alive and he ran over he's like here. You need to milk Let me get this let me grab pit to go over and start doing some things for him Also, I don't think I don't think babies can survive on raw cow's milk, but Probably better than no milk. I don't know. I have no idea right Hey, my view better than no milk, but I Couldn't even could even begin to guess all of our chit children was asked. Um, I just believed her when she said that He didn't anything else. She's like, oh, he's gonna he's gonna live now. Um, Jeff you said Um, I wanted to go back to when you said, you know, they it felt like I want to jump on Music for a second. Mm. Yeah, because I had I went I had both extremes where it's like I really loved A shit ton of it. Mm-hmm once in a few like like the I personally thought it was a little over the top when it was The build-up to this germ the german front line and um, I to me it was a little over the top because I was in this in this really subtle uh Realism and I was commenting of to myself of how not to the empty room. Um That I thought they did a very very very good job of Subtle music in the background that you barely noticed and you noticed when they like took it away Or they went very airy and one of the moments is when they climbed over to the dead man zone Whatever it is. Mm-hmm. And it the music just shifted to just this very like Eerie yeah airy empty dead space it felt like and it I thought they did a beautiful job That's why I was also a little upset when we got to the other end and then he went to the other extreme and they went yeah Oh, there's no one here. Oh my god guys. No, I mean, I loved it. I I thought that uh, like you said, you know When when they're calling over, I mean, there's just this tension that that's building Uh throughout the entire thing that's kind of like, you know, oh something's coming something's coming Um or when it you know, it is quiet and it is, you know, uh peaceful or it is a little bit Um, you know still around um school fields, you know when he's creeping around or something Uh, we have that that music, you know those those wild violins just kind of creeping up on you Uh, that's indicating. Hey, something's coming, you know and it builds that anxiety a little bit And and so when something actually happens when the german pops out or when you know, uh, something something gets revealed or It's just absolutely I thought I thought smashes a hundred percent. Yeah, no, I agree I mean, uh, the scenes I remember the most where the squirt Like, um was most noticeable to me was in the beginning because it starts off very like Either there was none or it was very somber and like at the start of everything And then as soon as they get told what their mission is they step outside that room It turns into like this like beat where there's like a time clock and then everything's rushed And they're like even the dialogues rushed and then they're they're having to push through like all these people and it gets claustrophobic Like all those mashup of like elements made it really dramatic and like Uh tense, which was awesome And then like you were saying that once they get into no man's land is all of a sudden like atmospheric And it's just like calm, but then also eerie and then they're like Like you were following them as they slowly go through this and see all like the death and destruction like the music Definitely complimented the visuals and like production design and everything very well in my opinion Yeah, and they and they designed that for a scene to scene just so that we can feel that shift of Energy as we went along with it too. Yeah, I mean the score definitely helped carry a lot of that that energy Uh throughout because there was there was a lot of different tones of you know When when you needed to feel calm when you when you needed to feel anxious when you needed to feel at peace Um, when you were excited like I I I thought the the score perfectly transcribed the emotion of of the entire film Um through and through yeah, I mean I I just like, um, I think 95% of it was fantastic I just think there was a couple moments, you know, if I was just my personal German trench thing for you I think is that 5% right? The German French thing trench trench trench. Oh, I heard trench as well. Sorry. Sorry. I know Um, yeah, I mean that's just one of them. I want to say there was one later, but I will say I I definitely lost track Um of the soundtrack the farther we got into the movie and um, I got much more wrapped up in the visuals and the story and everything So saying I definitely, you know, stop paying attention and um keeping track of what this The the music was really doing. So I mean it wasn't like, you know, I'm not out here I just don't you know, I'm not the person to be like everybody's perfect or nothing could be possibly change That's just a me. So I think you know, there's a couple, you know here and there Um, not like big problems or anything. That's fair matt. You're kind of um out of focus. I don't know if There's I noticed that too a bit ago I I'm sure we saw the I'm sure we saw the break break video, but we are back now We're back I was I was talking to Brandon that no one's ever going to hear um about um, some of the pacing things but it kind of leads into another thing that I just Nothing I didn't there's nothing more to say other than I just thought it was gorgeous um the same amount of time from the start of the movie to Entering the german front lines 24 minutes is the same amount of time from when he got off the truck Um where he got shot at in that town to when he got to the shore So when he got to the shore And got off the truck that was about 25 minutes. That's it doesn't It's so weird to me that those don't necessarily feel like the same amount of time Right, but they they literally were the same amount of time I mean the mark of the second act and the mark of the third act. He was crazy Yeah, the uh, but get he gets off the shore he crawls his ass to sit with everybody one Hey, you got more important stuff to get up. Go but anyways, I get it. Hey, he's been through some shit I have no he's dead. He's a walking dead. Oh, that song was absolutely gorgeous Getting a lot of the rings vibes from that song that song was so haunting Yeah, this song was so almost like we're doing depressive almost like just put him in a A dwarf cave and like let that reverb happen and just like what it sounded amazing I'm down with that But like you think you think about like why why Uh, he sat down and just kind of you know laid it out I really actually wanted to ask you guys opinions about about when he does get off And I don't know. I don't know where we're jumping back in but when he does get off Uh out of the river he does sit down and he and he's you know listening to everything Um, what do you think is going through his head? What do you think is going through school fields head? Is it just that he's given up? Is it that he thinks he's failed? Uh, is it that this is just a sweet moment, you know a peaceful moment a chance to to kind of Capture a little bit of calm Uh, or is it you know, does does it bring up some kind of memory and is there a specific memory? Like his mom might have been singing that exact same song to him like what do you think is going through this guy's head This is the song his girlfriend sings while giving him a blowjob So he was just like damn this is reminiscent. I'm a I wish going oh man No, I was a talented lady. Yeah, I hate that's what i'm saying then chiliquis um I think It was I mean a combination of like he's unbelievably tired. We've gone on this massive adventure It's it's mooring. So, you know a little bit of like I don't know I can see him sitting down and just being exhausted and being like i'm gonna sit for like just a second because I just crawled out of this river And listened to this and it's like, you know, did I fail? Am I dead? And then You know, he wasn't even like the song ended everyone started moving and he popped up and was like, oh shit I need to do this. They went out of their way to be like, hey, are you okay? What are you doing? And then when he realized it clicked like it felt like it clicked back in was like, oh, I'm I'm still alive. Mm-hmm. I'm going I have a possibility of still completing this. Yeah, and then he got up and ran So I got that search of adrenaline. Yeah, as I was talking it might be more if he kind of figured he failed because it was the morning Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, I think it was a common. I think I agree. I think I thought it was this sense of getting drawn into serenity like a moment of serenity and like calmness good movie but then also It was all right Best villain one of the best villains of all time but anyways, I But yeah, I think he got drawn like I think he was under the impression that he did fail or miss his chance to warn The troops, but then he also you know He just survived this whole ordeal of going like running out of that town and getting shot at going through the river And then just got drawn in by the calmness of that Like moment same as all the rest of those soldiers Yeah And then as soon as it was over like they started talking to him and then it clicked into him who he was just like I I've been needing to find these guys where are they like maybe I can still make this happen And then and then he realizes like I mean then we all realize he's in the midst of it like yes They're like we're about to go out there. Yeah, right like hey, you know, come on. Come on. Come on. Come on Yeah Off to die we go Um, but I mean so so that kind of transitions a little bit into the acting side of things of like I thought I thought the facial expressions through throughout everybody Was was just absolutely flawlessly iconic Uh from from the the drop of the older Blake brother When he's like oh my god, my brother's here like where is he and then when he realizes just the how his expression just changes Um and how they're you know, he's able to kind of barely keep his emotions in but also struggled to you know Uh, not let anything out, but he you know, it's all boiling inside of him to uh scullfield You know, in that moment when he realizes he sells a chance to save the day Um, you know that that change, um all of their just haunted expressions And and just even remembering the fact that these were kids these were teenagers, you know 13 14 years old going out there I wrote down these guys look so young The two main guys Scowfield looked older than the other one the other one looked like he was looks like he was a little boy Yeah, it looked like he was in high school or something Uh, I mean if that oh, yes, but I I agree. Yeah, the acting I thought was Um fantastic. I liked I liked scullfields acting As we went as it got farther. He was very stoic at the beginning, which um, isn't a bad acting or anything But we didn't see a lot of emotions. You still saw some But it was mostly carried by the other guy whatever his name was jeff I keep saying jeff as like my made-up name for people I know I don't know why I'm feeling annoying. I did it earlier too. And I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, okay Everyone's name is matt at this point. I know I think I said it earlier I think I said it earlier and then you started talking and I was like did I didn't mean to call anyways, um What's his faces was like really carrying the acting and like as like the main, um, the main actor Scowfield was pretty like um kind of uh the downer of the group Like when they said oh he was just like wait, hold on like Should we even do in this and like the other guy was like gunho about the adventure like haven't like getting the shit done Well, um, I feel like he was less gung-ho and more of like we have to do this. There's no option Yeah, I was brother his brother was the tie to right because right. Yeah, you you give someone a task Uh to do and that task is directly tied to you know Their family or someone they love or something they care about and they've got this energy You know, they've got this drive and this motivation Uh, and again, it's another change is another expression change that you can see, you know, switches like the the the light switch just goes on Uh, well, I love it Scowfield takes over that Mission when they get into the truck. Do you remember? Yes. Um, yeah, so when they were starting he was like, oh, well We're never gonna make it in the end. Um Again, I forgot the guy's name because I was making the jeff joke. Uh, the other guy chubby boy. Uh, Blake. He's not okay Blake. He's not even chubby. He's just like some he's just got a round face. Um he uh He responds with yes, I will like a very intense. Yes. I will and then after he dies and uh, scowfield ends up in the truck They say the same thing to him. Oh, you'll never make it and he goes. Yes. I will. Yes I will and it was like it was definitely the full transition from The other guy being the main the lead the pushing to scowfield being right well What a scene to follow like literally as he's getting on the truck He's just like or having to leave that he just has to leave the body there. Yes, like, yeah Like what an orthogon on the truck Standing up and walking away from him has got to be that's I mean That's one of like the biggest things and I and I liked right before that too Like the realism of him taking all the stuff off all the important stuff I need to deliver this and he delivered this yeah and just kind of a reminder of Um, you know, it's war. We got to move on. Yep. They stand up dude. We were going you're not done like I understand This might have felt like an end to you, but it's not overdue But we're nowhere near the end. I mean and and I want to shout out to mark strong who played captain smith In his his expressions and his just the his stoicism. He was a good guy finally too Yeah, finally, but like he was able like he had such a range even even in his limited time I feel like um because you could see you know, he was he's this captain You know, he's like, you know, that's an order you have to get up and you have to leave your friend And then he's like but he's soft as well like when they're walking and he's explaining. Hey, you know This is where we're going. Uh, I understand the situation that you're in, you know, you're definitely hurting Uh, so he's stern, but he's soft and I like mark strong just just crushed it And you can see it again when when he's like, you know, send off as uh as school feels getting out of the truck Like you just see that uh, and I love that line just to make sure there are witnesses Yes, because some people like the fight right and he's just got this like I don't know is this hollowness almost to him. It's just that was absolutely stunning Um, but also You know that the whole um matt you you said, you know, um You kind of have to you have to move on you have to uh, I it must be the hardest thing to do Um to get up and leave your friend leave his body there just in a random fucking field in the middle of euro Uh, but you have to do it and and and you kind of realize, you know Where some of these Mentalities come from when they do get out of war and they they come back and they have to live their lives again Is you just have to shove all of your emotions down? You have to swallow everything and you have to keep pushing because It's not done. Yeah Why should you should you should really like, you know dive into the emotions and I just shove them down when you come back more But I hear you correct. No, you actually should but you kind of start to understand why They're incapable of it because hey, I open the midwest dude Yeah, hey trust me do we don't that's not our god feelings aren't a thing help me I understand trust me right um to the on top of mark strong. I hey, I love mark strong and everything jeff He's a good guy in uh, I was gonna say what movie have a nice scene Uh, no, you saw uh, he was a good guy in the, um, my god the british kick-ass version kind of with matthew vaughan Secret service. No Kingsman Kingsman. He's a good guy in kingsman. Oh god. Anyway, so in a while. Yeah. Well, you're that's your fault so but also there's One is at a cameo And if it is or isn't there are other cameos also that I thought were really good too started off with callin first You know, they all had short scenes and I thought they all did great Uh callin first first. I thought he did good Um, you know, he I thought he nailed it then there is I don't know his real name, but it's moriardi Um, was next Uh from shurlock the bbc show shurlock, which which um role was he in this one? It was he the sarcastic sergeant Uh, I guess yes if you're calling he's the one that sends him into the dead man zone. Yeah. Yeah the one who gives him the flare gun I loved him. He was looking hilarious sergeant. I thought it was a Apollo Sure, I believe you more we already Um, and then uh, let's see after that there was Um, we also finished with, um, Benedict Cumberbatch. Yes. Uh, a great reveal Did another Uh, another fantastic cameo, not cameo job and then finished with, um, Richard ham and even though he looked nothing like, uh, his fake brother Yeah, I uh I love that the Benedict Cumberbatch like reveal almost like Uh, just this whole hey we finally got here and then you know, this moment has so much weight to it We've we've gone through such an ordeal. We've gone through the journey And uh, I love the idea of like we got to cast someone like worth this journey And I thought that was he was absolutely like, oh, it's him Sorry, I pictured Benedict Cumberbatch making that noise He the detents around it? You found me But no, I thought you know, I would have liked more strongly, but yeah Um Speeding up. Oh, you're hard to go ahead. No, I didn't know you had something for that No, I mean, it just alluded back to what like One thing I've noticed with these podcast episodes Brandon says a really good chunk of something And then I want to say something to that, but then he goes on to the next thing And then I have to like backtrack in order to get back to it I'm really debating some time. I really debate sometimes like take notes and be like Brandon said this that My favorite is when he asked a question. He hasn't done this in a while, but he asked like six questions at once And then he's like go. I'm like, dude. I barely remember the last one Your first grade I It's entertaining to me. We gotta like we gotta fold back But do you want to fold back? Well, the one thing I wanted to fold back to was uh, the mark strong line that you said you liked so much where he was just like Make sure there's witnesses like he some people just love the fight That line hits so hard in the same way that I feel like um Uh in the dark night the alfred saying that about the joke he ledgers joker character Like it hits it's that way to me in terms of like, um, he's like some people just want to see the world burn kind of situation And so it's like of a tangerine And I do like that they take that on to when we finally do see cummerbatch's character You know, like one I feel relieved when there's a bunch of people inside that room already So he doesn't have to like drag anybody in there But then he plays it really well like he plays He's just like it doesn't give a shit. He's like, no, we're we got him in the run. We're fucking doing this And that like yeah, and I think I don't think he really he you know I don't think he fought it once he read the like he let like he knew why they were asking him to stop rather than Just stop because it got the vibe that he was like I know you just want me to stop because we're gonna go later and it's like if that's the case I'm not stopping but then once he read and was like he's like a tractor gonna get hurt It didn't look like he was he he was good. Even if he was alone. I feel like he might have still Um stopped like I don't necessarily he seemed like a smart dude But he was very like so I still like the mark strong The line and honestly I like it better even if it didn't Whether it applied or not to the movie because it's a real like it's so realism Not every single line And when you're out and about and it war is you know the most profound thing in the world necessarily And sometimes they just drop little nuggets here and there. Yeah, well even realistic in the sense that kumbra batch is Characters just basically he's like this war only ends one way like last man standing like He he has this Mindset that people can understand and agree with even though Like, you know, he might some people might think he pushes it a little too far or something like that So, um, I do like these morally gray areas based around like people's mindsets in the war time Yeah, I mean Yeah, because you can you can see uh kumbra batches attitude completely drop You know that that uh colonel's so like you said like so like ready to go and like hey I'm going to we're doing this period the end because this is what it takes to win the war And then he's like well just you know, they fucking said do it You know two days ago now they don't want me to do it and now next week We're we're gonna do it again. Like yeah, it's just back and forth I really wanted to I want to ask how people felt about because I was really happy that they did Something and then I think I kind of feel like they bailed on it last second Um, which I'm sure people really liked it, but I was kind of upset. So we did this entire freaking adventure It was crazy. He finally got there We were like there for the big climax of like you would deliver the letter He's not going and it's like yes, but yeah, what happened was fucking nothing It was all right. We're still it's still war like it's not like who yes. I'm glad you did this but like There's no big climactic hug. You're so great, man You finished the thing because I really really loved that but then on his way out They stopped him. He was like hey, you did such a good job and I was like damn it No, I just wanted it to be like go back to war and like that's what this is And there is no like, you know, we kind of had this building up to yes, we're done the war, you know We've won everything in reality, you know, it's just a small victory small victory for us because we went through it But in reality the war's still going on people are still gonna die, but I know tomorrow they still might go to war I kind of liked that. It was that specific character that said that to hit that small line to him because um Just by the fact that there is something to appreciate by the fact that like look how many lives you save today Like it may not like in the overall scheme may not seem like a big deal but In some ways every single life matters and counts on these in these scenarios Even though, you know, you saved a ton of people today even though tomorrow might be completely different but It's got to keep trying and it keeps it does matter. Yeah. Yeah, and it and it was it was it was small and it was quick and it was It was almost insignificant because it was from such a minor character that we had no idea who it was But it it's it's moments like those that I think really kind of stick with people It's like, you know, hey when you when you're not able to sleep at night, you remember Hey, I actually was able to Uh save a bunch of people or you know, I was I did The best job that I was I possibly could do Uh, and I love that I absolutely do. Um, but then at the same time, I think Uh Matt what you were saying is it kind of does just continue on and it does it there is no real resolution There is no hey, we won and and everyone's happy and you know, the you know The whole story can can kind of wrap up it kind of bookings and I absolutely love The ending because it bookings with a back to one at the exact same shot of what we started with this dude on the tree And just kind of you know at a moment of of peace and calm tranquility And you know, okay, I can breathe but then that kind of to me It it it brings up the question Uh, what happened before the movie started like what what journey did he did they go on? Right before they got asked to do this task, you know He was taking he was taking a rest because clearly he was tired because clearly, you know He had been through some shit And what's gonna happen after this because there's gonna be another kind of you know And so this is just a moment a nugget day in the life, uh, yeah perspective Yeah, it's exactly what it was. It's a day in the life of uh, uh, uh, uh soldier And it's it was just stunning It wasn't the was it the same tree or was it just because I couldn't tell if it was like They literally did like the same like set location, but just dressed it differently So I didn't look this thing It was quite literally back to one or was it just a another tree that they made You know get had them sit up again. So that looked like the the the intro I think it was different because like the field the field I would have since looked a little different to me. Yes I don't know if I would have liked it if they literally just circled around I kind of would have like that and they made it look Belt different so I didn't realize it. I kind of think I would have loved that one thing I'm surprised that they I'm not sure if I would have liked it or not, but I'm surprised they didn't do was um have someone mentioned him like You'll get a medal for this Or something like that briefly. Yes They didn't because they talked about the medals and he how much he doesn't give a shit about them and stuff like that So I would have loved more than anything if instead of him being like you did such a good job That little small character being like hey look. Hey, uh chin up. You're gonna get a medal out of this. There's something like that I would have loved it so much better. Jeff because no I'm so sorry I hope you're ready to think about it. No No, these are all small potato things. Trust me. These are all small potato things But no, like they they just focused on it so much and uh banter earlier on I thought they would have brought it back Um, which like even if it was just a small little line like that Um, but you know, I'm not a writer. I just You're just a colorblind video guy I see things differently Here which here is the first and the last shot. Yeah, the first tree is definitely a different Well, it could be a different tree. It could be different directions. Also. That's a different type of tree. You know The tree look I will say shaved off some of the tree on the other side And what are they saying? But hey, the trees are round like so you could shift it a different direction That's what I mean like on the other side of the tree. You shave it off a little bit because you see how you mean framewise Yeah, no, I mean all the way itself. I thought that was talking about the tree tree Hey, everybody. Okay. Everybody needs a calm down Can you see my cursor? I was talking about no, you got to do it on the the webpage select the webpage The town or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, this is my hello. They shaved this this down right here Or there's just like a different size of the tree me I'll just say here. Yeah, you know, it could be another side of the tree, but no matter what They did it fantastic. His hair looks like it's a different color too, even though Like he looks like a different person. I love it I see that. Um, those two look those two look closer than Blake and his brother um Speaking of coloring jeff because they didn't do a lot of lights and stuff. I believe someone correct me I because like we talked about I'm sure they did send so I'd imagine yeah, I imagine this is a ton of a post-production coloring also So yeah, I mean to an effect like uh, there's multiple variables going on, right? Like so an example being that first room they go into conversation with deacon so So that first room they go into with the general where those oil lamps They they actually replace those with like 500 watt quartz lamps and they had a dimmer technician dimming down the lights So that they get a certain color out like, you know, you can talk about color in the in a practical sense and then also in the Post-production sense. I love they didn't very they did a good job on both of them. Yes. Like the coloring was a very impressive um Aspect of of all the technical side like yeah, no man's land looked very drab in gray and like murky and like uh It looked really good that way like some of the water even looked really like toxic and green and stuff um Blake when he got stabbed he started looking so pale so quickly I can't wait. I was I've been waiting this whole time. That is one of my all-time favorite fucking Scenes because I that has to be post right there. There's how do you make someone look that pale? They gave him some really gnarly soup before starting that scene He actually died that was a real soup gotcha. He signed many many contracts Uh, I bet I mean, I bet you it's a little a little be um a little makeup and a little a lot of post-production coloring Yeah, but like what what that's what I want to know like I I want to learn so much about this movie because what kind of makeup What did Roger D. Can say what's that what did what did Roger D. Can say about it, Jeff? I didn't I didn't have any conversation. I don't think I got that far in got there Well, I definitely because I've got the blu-ray I'm gonna watch as many special features as I can because I I want to learn as much about how this this was made Yeah, I don't think yeah, how because there was no there was no cutaway there was no, uh, you know turn around and and see someone Is someone else, you know, uh, someone else's perspective and and you know Do the whole setup thing and then come back and easy a different color like yeah And it very well is something that they could have done in post with color work like you can You can color pick people's skin tones and designate a range and mask it out Like so that's just affecting his skin tone And then like maybe you can also do like something like you do an after effects where you have it gradually get Paler and paler like losing saturation. Um, you could do something like that post I mean it whatever they did. I mean, I whether or not that was the technique they used Uh, or like man said, it's literally a little b Uh, it was absolutely just astonishing and that was one of my favorite sequences and the whole thing It looks so realistic. Um, and that leads me into another thing that I want to just Uh, just jump on and and and rave about is is the set set decoration set design the the props wardrobe All of it. I mean was so Intense and so realistic. I mean they definitely a hundred percent dug trenches Uh, I don't know where the hell they were on earth that has that vast open field Um left, you know with with nothing or if they just you know went in post and painted out a bunch of you know Uh, billboards and stuff in the background um But yeah, it was it it felt incredibly incredibly authentic and incredibly uh It's realistic. I was gonna say if chris vernullen can purchase out an entire field to grow corn on I feel like these guys can find an empty field to dig some holes in Um I think corn fields are a lot easier to to shoot than make it look like but the time and duration to grow out those corn I don't know Brandon. You were just in moab moab is like was like there's very little shit out there And that's like a little portion of you know, there's a lot realistically there's a lot of still a lot of open space But no one wants to live there. That's the problem Is we do have a lot of space, but like nobody really wants to live there I just want to take holes that grow corn in there. Hey, I can find you guys a cheap house You just got to move to like fucking Idaho or something, but who wants to right? Yeah Yeah, but yeah, no, I agree though. Like uh the production design costumes art direction like uh dentists Uh gasner, I think is the production designer for this one. He also worked on blade runner 2049 Um a lot of a lot of these people at the top end of their game for sure The whole team on uh blade runner 2049 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so this was uh nominated for 10 academy awards It only won three of them You guys want to take a shot of what three it was best picture best cinematography best direction I know I know cinematography for a fact because I was looking at this earlier Um, I don't remember what the other winners were so I would say cinematography. I would say I'm trying to remember. I don't think they won picture. Did they? I'm gonna go with um directing and Directing I don't know I'm gonna go with the third one. Let's go Costumes and makeup cool. Uh jeff what were you use that cinematography picture and third one and directing and directing uh, no I'm shocked that he didn't win for directing. I think that I I'm gonna look and see uh real quick what what uh it lost out to but no it won for Uh visual effects and sound mixing not sound editing sound mixing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm So what I'm trying to remember what else came out that year now. That's I'm gonna look real quick and see if i direct that real quick It was 2020 awards for what you want picture of the year. I'm on the page. I got you Brandon. Yeah, sure Thanks, uh picture of the year was the winner was parasite Oh That's right parasite ray parasite in that year. Oh man, ironically. So wow, this is see this is a good year And then I look at last years and i'm like this year's What a let down so here all the best picture award nominees parasite four versus ferrari joker Marriage story the irish men 1917 jojo rabbit Little woman stacked here. Yep, little women and once upon a time in hollywood Yeah, yeah, I mean and you think about Yeah, the other than the irish men For like watch any of these films and not know when they came out and you're just like yeah, I definitely won best picture Best everything so To me personally when I watched last year's oscars Brandon This is what I was saying was I felt like last year was a super week year because to me I like I think those are better than Oppenheimer in my I think so parasite 1917 maybe jojo rabbit joker And maybe once upon a time in hollywood i'm all like though that's Oppenheimer to me if not better So that's all anyways, but I 100% see where you're coming from with that and I definitely agree I did because Oppenheimer is is a fantastic Uh movie. It's it's really interesting. It's really well done But it's probably would be fourth on this list You know, yeah, I don't know if it was stacked against these guys like Who won best cinematography that year because now that I'm now that i'm thinking about it. I remember Deacon's photography was was uh, no, he won it. Yeah. Oh, he did win it. Okay. Yes. He he won for that Yeah visual and in 2049 previously, I believe right. Yeah, because for a while he was the he was literally an auto Decaprio of cinematography everyone like consistently loved his fucking work and then he just kept losing out to somebody else Production production design was once upon a time in hollywood. Yeah, that's That was that's not not there's no way not true. Nope Um, this does to me like it does bring It raises the issue of this one is and I don't know if you guys have much more but we're rolling to to ratings unless you guys do have more, you know, feel free to bring it up But like sam mendez does not he I mean he's directed a good amount of stuff But he hasn't done anything in it in a minute. Well, so last I have some background info about that. I listened to a podcast. Um, that's actually roger deacon's podcast Um where they talk to sam mendez I know right roger deacon has a podcast. Yes with his wife and they talk to to a bunch of different like people in the industry Really? Um, yeah, one of them being sam mendez but sam mendez is one of the interesting people in the film industry that has um a theater background and um He like one of the first things he directed I think was a american beauty Which he won a bunch of awards for and stuff and that was his first like feature, right? I believe he has a he has a tv movie called the cabaret cabaret first and then it was american beauty Yeah, so like he was very much just jumped right into it and was just like, oh, like I guess i'm actually kind of good at this And then same thing with this same thing with this movie in particular. He was just like um He uh in the behind the scenes special feature stuff. He was talking about how he was trying to find the next gig after um Skyfall and um he was so he was like going like his agent was sending him scripts and he just wasn't feeling any of it And then someone mentioned him that they were just like you should just write your own movie dude And he was just like yeah, i'm not really a writer like and then um, but then he like uh gained inspiration from like I think it was like his grandfather or something was in world war one And he had this story in his mind for a while So then he brought on the other person that has a writing credit with him to help him Gate basically get his ideas into a script form that hot chick. Oh, wait. No, that was something Yeah, so that's interesting. This whole thing is inspired by uh, sam mendez's grandfather And he his grandfather um Alfred alfred h mendez who is uh kind of the dedication to at the end of the movie Um, is he does have a uh, an autobiography Um, and so i guess i from what i remember Uh when this came out and listened to interviews and stuff back In 2020 or 2019 is that yeah sam sam meadows would just like sit in his grandpa would just start telling stories And it would just be the most wild shit you could imagine Uh or couldn't imagine like he's just these these things that uh were mind-blowing that actually happened Yeah, crazy crazy to think about but um, yeah Yeah, it fascinates me sometimes when you like Even if you have the same crew because his neck his next movie after this 1917, which was a couple years like Because it came out uh last year. I don't know who remembers what it is But it had sam mendez. He directed it. He wrote it It had roger deacon shoot it and it had nowhere close To the same, uh, it was empire of light. Um, in 2022. Oh my gosh. It was gorgeous I do really want to rewatch it because we came out of it. We did I know we did an episode of it I'll look it up which episode it is for our very early on Um, and and I feel like we came out of it going it was gorgeous And I I was I feel like I was like I kind of want to like it more than I do but I just It there's something it was like just missing a little something Yeah, well it's hard when you have like such epics in mind like 1917 and then skyfall and all this like they're really very big Like hollywood movies, right? And then you go to this one that's almost like I'm hesitant to call it independent But it was more of a standard drama kind of thing where you're very very much diving into more of the characters and it's like Much more of a I don't know slower burn compared to like the action movies that he's done essentially Yeah, I think I think if Roger deacon walks on to the set it's not allowed to be considered independent anymore. All right, um, we talked about that on episode 21 um empire empire of popcorn Popcorn Remember if we saw the thinking of um roger deacon's not being into like His films are not independent anymore dude. He pulled fucking strings with re for this film He was the fucking that was the fucking first movie to shoot with the arialexa Uh mini lf and I already hadn't released that camera yet But there was just word there was just word that it was out rumor has it and then roger deacon's get went to them and was just like Hey, um I've heard you guys were working on this camera Can you guys get a few those ready for this movie and they were like he made they made it happen for him Right. So you said that's so fucking cool, but do you think so now on set Jeff, do you think everybody's huddling around there to having conversations talking about it? Or do you think they're trying to keep it kind of low-key so that nobody really like sees it because it's not even out yet And it's just like I I think they were talking about it after this movie because I would assume that would be a set thing Where everybody everybody and their mother wants to come over and be like, so what does that be so what does that do? How does it look? Yeah People have been doing that since like when the red camottos came out like the new matrix movie was shouting about that because they're this new uh small Red camera that you can mount on drones and stuff like that and then um Uh when the revenant came out they were the first ones to use the elixir 65 They're like their large like format like sensor um It's so like it's definitely a thing now like where people are saying oh, yeah, we're the first ones to use this camera check it out Roger deacon did it before it's cool Yeah, I mean look dude like the production design the the camera what cameras they had the people they had on it It was all very impressive. It how long how many months did they shoot for? I want to say it was like what like I don't know April to something whatever I looked it up earlier and I forgot about it, but how I'm impressed I can't believe how much it costs with all of that. Oh, I haven't looked at it. I think it isn't I think it's a uh, you know Um, do you want to take a guess jeff before I say anything? Uh, I kind of do I want to try this one's interesting because it might be it's hard to think Let's see it is hard to think it's hard to it's hard to like interpret what would I because it could be super expensive? It could not be because also remember it's an English production I don't know what that means It was an indie and it's an English production. So you have to say it in pounds not dollars No, no dollars because I don't know dollars. I mean, I don't know pounds Okay, I'm gonna say I want to say 80 million 80 million I was going to say 65 million But it wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised to see it go as high as 120 the time duration to me makes an importance Because if it's it could have been extra long based on the weather conditions They were trying to do and that everyone's shot from april first to june 7th 2019 so Able made so like just what? Okay, nine months Nine weeks, so I was like So, okay, so then I think it's less now than 80. I want to say it's Um, what'd you say Brandon? I said 65 25. I'm gonna go. He said technically he said 65 to 125. That's what he wants to call for I'm gonna say 60 I think it's just a little less than 65 I mean, hey, I thought it was impressive that they made it look this good on 95 mill Um, but wow, well Righty five but should have stuck in my original. Yeah, you definitely should have Come on Jeff. I know damn it All right, speaking away. Okay, cool Righty, uh, Sam Mendez. I I just wanted to mention Uh that he has in Upcoming. I don't know what this means, but he's got the untitled ringo star George Harrison paul macarney and john lennan biopics All four different movies I saw that was he yeah. Yeah, what's he what is he just producing? Uh directing. He's directing. Yeah, I miss that So i'm interested to be following that and see how those turn out Is it going to be night another 1917 or is it going to be empire of light exactly Exactly rating All right, so rating Jeff's gonna go uh jeff's gonna go first on the ratings Oh, yeah, because this was my pick. I don't think we went through that in the beginning, but that's okay Hey, why was this your pick jeff before you uh, give us a rating and it's probably my favorite war movie I see so now it's jeff's turn to rate Um, we're already lost. I know we are I need to look at this real quick. I know for sure it's gonna be up there But I mean god, I appreciate so much out of this movie like these We've talked about in the past like I've asked Brandon. Uh, I know for sure like if there was a Type of movie you'd want to make like is like that kind of like one that you would want to and those typically end up being our nines and stuff Um, that is definitely what this movie is to me It's definitely up there like the technical quality the musical score the acting every I said it earlier every every department on this was like At the top of their game and doing things that they haven't done before they were getting challenged to do um And again, I get I give higher ratings when a movie is just stunningly beautiful Like when the cinematography is amazing. So this one automatically already gets higher points because of that um So God Where do I want to put this my other nines at this point are I have at it even nine deathly hallows part two fight club at 9.25 inception at 9.25 And then joker and interstellar at 9.5 um Oh damn, I think this movie for me It has to be Just where's your dark night rises? I mean, where's the dark night? Would you rate the dark night? I don't know. I have to ask you guys that Why why did you know you want to rate on on that movie that doesn't make sense to me? I know I really tried to get him on that episode and he'd be like refuse. He's like fuck you people What a hate Batman and I hate Christopher Nolan. So like why even bother? It's on record Also, obviously when we weren't big enough for Jeff at the time. So oh man. I was as soon as I saw that you guys rated No, he was bit you about it immediately afterwards the day the like when it came out I've been hearing it since then I was very insulted But no, um god. Yeah, I think I think I have to put this film At a 9.5 as well I mean point it's very up there like um Part of me. I consider taking it to a 9.75 But I just I don't know why you don't I can't believe it's as low as it as you just said honestly, I mean, yeah, we joke about it all the time, but honestly I I'm shocked because this is like the the movie when when I think of Jeff in cinematography I think of 1970 like I don't understand how you've rated it at lower than a 10 I mean again a 10 being absolutely perfect movie. It's it's hard for me to think of one that's just like When I think of a 10 I can I only think of me having one 10 of a movie because that is the perfect movie Um, you know what I mean? So like I can in my head. I don't know if there's ever going to be two perfect movies But this one is very close. This is one that I've debated it may change to 9.75 But uh, it's definitely one of those two and I think I want to put it at 9.5 for now Okay, Jeff's going 9.5. I'll actually roll in a mind because I mean it's a very similar I think you and I Jeff have a similar mindset of like You know, it's it's unbelievably hard to get to attend damn near for me I don't know if I'll ever give a 10 just because in my mind You know, it's dumb, but it's like in my mind. We're always improving You know like I don't know if we were starting to give tens, you know Sound of music would be like a 10 way back then and it's like yeah as we grow like we have room to grow Yeah, um, so just like psychologically and mindset wise. Yeah, I don't personally think I will ever give a 10 Um, would that mean said this is like a 7.75 for Matt And no, I think I'm up because my top three my top at tied for 9.5 I have avatar dark knight and drastic park. So I you know, my mindset is I'm trying to figure out if If it's on that level. I think technically it probably is Um, I'm personally between 9.5 and 9.25 um, I I mean, I think it's technically better than Jurassic park. I don't think it's At like here. I think I'll say technically it's better than drasic park. No, I don't know It's just a production wise. I think it's better than drasic park even though drasic park did an amazing A whole lot of amazing. They do a lot of amazing shit for sure And then I don't but I think Avatars are in the dark knight You know, we'd have a conversation about the dark knight But I thought I think think they did some amazing amazing amazing stuff also So it's up on that level for Technical side of 9.5 probably Um, you know story wise. I did personally. I think there was a little like, you know, lull I didn't know I didn't like that one music spot. You know, I you know, I don't think it's perfect necessarily. It's damn close Um, god. I don't want to jab No, I think I'm gonna go I think I'm going to put on the same level as joker, which I have at 9.25 So I'm going to go 9.25 because Match me Yeah, I do no, no, I honestly do think like those three have like an a personal side to it also Yeah, and so I mean that tracks I I rated it the same one that I put joker at So it's like yeah, I think honestly, I do think I'm going to put it in this joke or somebody go Yeah, 9.25 because I mean, yeah, technically, you know, camera work was fucking unbelievable Everything, you know, we gushed over for long enough. I don't need to necessarily repeat Uh everything, but I mean should be pretty freaking obvious of why It is a above a nine. Yeah, I uh, oh gosh, just a little bit and just do let me go 10 Um, I mean, honestly, it's it's really close. I'm struggling between Uh that and and maybe a little lower, but I mean because it is it's an unbelievably epic journey that we went on I just I I'm still astonished even after talking about it after watching it a few times Like I'm astonished at every single piece and every single aspect of it's like from its scale to its beauty to its message Um, and and you know, like we've said everything is just top-notch everything's Um, everyone's at the top of their game Um, and it just deserves nothing but the highest regards and the highest respect Uh, when when we're just you know looking at what it takes to make a production and what it takes to pull off something And then to do it, uh to try and make it look like a single take as well Just the planning that it takes, um, is absolutely fucking outstanding Um from the cinematography set design, uh acting to the writing the score everything everything is just top of the game Um, so I'm struggling between it putting it at like the top top tier and uh, uh, just to peg down because my Um tops are also hit it's funny because Brandon's we do not have time to read all of your nine classes Okay, you guys did not have time You guys put, uh, joker, it does at the same level as joker and my joker is at nine boys seven five as well And it's at at the very least it's at a nine point seven five Um, but I mean the more I think about it the more that I talk about the more that I I Learn about this movie the more I want to learn and the more that I enjoy Uh, so I think I am going to give this one a 10 because I absolutely think it's just an outstanding uh technical masterful achievement Um that is understandable is just a it's a it's a it's a good watch. It's a really good watch Jeff, uh, was that your guess at joe joe rabbit? Yeah, so we both guessed 10 so we both great. Hey First I was so confused what I went to I went to his page and there was three 10s Yeah, because he has two is 1917 about time and joe joe rabbit what is going on in a second Right. Yeah, it means it's so good. All right, that means we have a we do now have officially a new highest rated What we watched movie? 1917 is officially the highest at nine point five eight The the previous winner was joker at nine point five flat So, uh, because yeah, the only real difference with that is that Brandon went 10 and said at nine point seven five. Yep. So we have we now do have a new official and uh, hey, hey, I'm You know, not a joker. What isn't deserving also but 1917 is a very deserving. I'm just glad it's not like about time or something I think 1917 is definitely just very deserving of being our highest rating. Yeah Yeah, 1917's a phenomenal movie. Yeah, it was phenomenal. It was phenomenal. All right. So that's uh, that's all we got this That's all we got. So I yeah encourage everyone to go check out 1917 on netflix Let us know what you thought of this Which you thought the they could have done better with the movie because obviously these guys think that there's room for improvement So I want to I want to know if I want to know if they everybody thinks that the fake brothers look alike They didn't really hear that before you do you think they really look like I disagree and then jeff was a quarter point right there It is actual brother Yeah, no, I and the fact that the actors were living by you know at the premiere like That's a point right there. Clearly. Yeah, Brandon. Don't get me wrong. I am still like even considering bumping mind at 9.75 But it it's hard for me to say that there's a movie that is clearly attending to me at this moment Cool. Cool. I think it's just like a yeah different. It's a feeling for me. I just got a feeling This one's a very close one. Hey, man. It's okay. I've said it before but I'll say it again. I like to like movies Apparently I do too And I will correct you that Brandon likes to like his movies He likes like the movies he likes and he likes to hate the movies. He doesn't like absolutely Exactly. She likes to like movies. I generally like to like I'm okay. That's all right. You know, it's okay Hey, I was I hold the film industry as a high level So it's like to me, you know, you don't just willy nilly make a movie and you get a good grating Fuck you, man, but some work into it Get your shit better Do better do better A quiet place get your shit together Day one. Oh god. Excuse me Shit's getting crazy. Yes. It is. Yes. It is But uh, all right cool guys. Thanks for a good talk. Uh, jeff. I appreciate the pick Um, and yeah, let us listen what you guys think. Uh, we're all over socials Uh, we're all over wherever you get your podcasts. 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