A Pint Of Cthulhu
Interveiw with Voice Actress Krissi
Hello and welcome to a part of the video. Behind the bar, we have a very special guest this time. Chrissy, the actual professional voice actress. We've never had someone of your caliber on here before. Say hello. Hello. I don't know about caliber. I mean, I'm pretty immature, I think, but I appreciate the accolades for sure. My ego will take it. Always good to feed the ego every now and again. And, of course, I have my co-host Jay. Hey. And, so, the very first question we ask every guest is if you could say a pint of kathooly was any type of drink, what would it be? Oh, it's got to be a beer. But probably, I must say, like, a dark lager. Something cute. That's the first time we've had that. You've got Guinness, specifically twice, I think. I don't know. So, do we have a coffee milk stout here that is absolutely divine? I'd go more that route. Coffee milk. I'd try it. Yeah, it's delicious. Definitely stick a chair and then, Cap, I want to have a see of that. Let me some coffee in the morning. Jay, would you like to ask the first proper question? So, you're the first voice actor we've actually had on here, I believe. What got you into voice acting? You know, it's a funny story. It's actually a really, yeah, it's a crazy story. I used to have an actual play podcast called Danger Dames, and our premise was very similar to y'all's, where we did a different system each season. Our whole premise was we wanted to showcase independent games that don't get looked at because, you know, the big D&D always skits all the attention. And then, on top of that, we wanted to do a podcast that was women only, because, again, tons of podcasts actually played, not if there's anything wrong with it, our men playing at the table, and we wanted to show women that women playing. And so, we created that in 2019, and I started working at a podcast studio. That's how I learned how to do the recording and everything else for that. And we did that for years, and I got onto Twitter, and I was like, "How are we going to grow our audience?" And Twitter was helping. I mean, we saw immediate boost, and then I was like, "Okay, so also how do I grow an audience?" I have a marketing degree, so my brain's always turning with, "How can I do this better?" And I was like, "Oh, you know what? I could leverage somebody else's audience." And I'd already done a couple of interviews with other shows, but I was like, "Man, I saw an audition notice for a Mega Star 7." And I was like, "I could probably do that. I mean, I do voices in my actual play, so, you know, it's not that much different." And I did acting when I was younger, so it wasn't that much of a stretch. I stopped acting when I had my children, because who has time. And so, I was like, "Great." I auditioned, and got the part. He said I had nailed it, and I quickly realized that I really liked it. And it just kind of spiraled. Like, from there, it was like, other people started reaching out and were like, "Hey, we'd love for you to be in our show." And I would do small parts, and then I got other people being like, "Hey, we'd like you to do our show." And I mean, I will put my link, I guess, to my website. You'll see I have quite a repertoire of shows that I've been on. And I don't even think I have everything on there. There's some bit parts I haven't thought of. I'm still working on trying to... It's been a stretch of like four years now, so trying to figure out where everything fit when and what I did has been a little tricky, but I need a secretary. I think it's really what it comes down to. But yeah, so that's kind of how it happened. And like I said, I just really realized I really actually genuinely have a good time doing a voice acting. So, and I'd love to like actually make this a thing. "You said you played a bunch of various TTRPGs. Do you have a favorite one in mind?" I love Monster of the Week. Hands down, it is my favorite game. I just really dig its whole premise. I'm a Buffy girl. I'm just charmed like the whole thing. And it just really jams with my type of entertainment anyway in the urban fantasy. And so yeah, Monster of the Week is bar none. Probably my favorite game that I've ever played. I've played it several different times with various different people, but... And I don't think we actually played it on one of our seasons that we recorded. It was something we did for fun, and then we were sad we hadn't recorded it. But, you know, that's the vein of like being an audio person, is you're like, "Man, everything should be recorded. This would have been great." And you don't think about it at the time. Hindsight's 2020, but yeah, Monster of the Week. Okay, so how long have you been a VA for then? Yeah, so I guess I got the part for Moxie in '21. And so since then, yeah, like danger games started in '19. We had to go local home in 2020, obviously, for obvious reasons. At first, we all recorded using online, and oh god, there's like seven episodes that are like my least favorite episodes as an audio person, because they, you know, like tech issues, and my other people were not tech people, so they didn't know how to use the Mikes right. So I was getting headphone mics instead of mic mics, even though I bought the Mikes. It's a whole thing. Um, and then um, but fortunately, like I think people are forgiving because they like understood that that's what it was. And then we potted up after the like 12 weeks of like isolation, and that was just who we spent the year with. So it made it very easy to record together because we would just add a basement and that became my podcast studio and we would record down there. And frankly, that was my saving grace. I think that years it gave me something to focus on besides, you know, keeping two children at home for school, which is not fun. And so, yeah. So you said you play various roles in multiple different shows. If you can pick one in particular that you would love to just redo, not so much because you didn't enjoy it, but just to relive that exact experience again. Which one would you choose? Oh gosh, I probably Moxie. She's that I tell people that character came to me the time in my life where I didn't even know I needed her. And she came to me like in a way where it's like she is her own entity. I have, I have a, the boys made me a poster because she was a musician, right? She's rock star and science in space. And so I have this, it's like a band poster of Moxie. And it's as I come up my stairs, you can see the door behind me as I come up my stairs, it's right in front of me. And yeah, she's just this entity that has like been in my life as like this, this alternative personality, if you will, she was a lot of fun. But I've played some really great characters that have been just totes fun to play. And most of them I'm still playing, so there's not really lament to wanting to go back to them. Moxie had a end and there's been discussion that maybe someday there would be a resurgence of her the way that we write. I doubt it, we always have other ideas and there's never a reason to go backwards. But yeah, fair enough. So what's your favorite part of being a voice actor? Um, well, um, I like acting in, in general, but I get to, I, I have a lot of range, I've been told. And so getting to try different voices and seeing how I want to realistically, like, I think it's living in the skin of these characters. Like that, like you sit down and you're like, okay, I'm going to take these lines, but suddenly you are that character. Like you stop being Chrissy sitting at a microphone. Um, you are, I played this character named Laffen Sally on this one podcast and she was just a psychopath, just an absolute psychopath. And she was just like, and I get very, like, I, I feel myself once so people could see what I look like when I'm recording. I, um, I get very animated while I'm recording, even though it's just me, like the, where you see the bag behind me is literally my sound booth. It's like a three by three foot square. Um, but I'm like, I'm just like gesturing and stuff like that. Um, and I've done scenes where I've literally had conversations with myself, where I'm playing both characters in the scene and just bouncing back from one to the other. It's just fun. I don't know, like, because you're like, you're changing your personality on the fly, right? You're like, one's this like, bubbly, crazy elf who's just here for the fun. And then the one is the soul tree evil person and just bouncing from them is just it, it's challenging and it's fun to go through that challenge. Um, a couple of weeks ago, we had a character in one of my other podcasts where it's two robots and they are melding together. And we had two different me and myself and somebody else was doing the voices for the two robots. And then my, my creator was like, well, I want you to do the ultimate voice. And I was like, yeah, but how do I want that to sound? Because like, it can't be just the singular voice. So what I ended up doing is I had the other girl record my lines for that third character. And then I literally would listen to her in my ear and try to match her cadence, but with my voice. And then I blended the two files together so that it was both our voices at the same time. And so that was, I was laughing because I think that was probably the most challenging thing I've ever done. But I was like, man, if I can pull this off, it'll sound so cool. Like, but like matching that cadence because like, we don't all speak the same way, right? Like, we all have our different patterns. And so I just would sit here and I'd be like, okay, and I like, I'd record it. And then I'd be like, okay. So it was, it was definitely challenging in a fun way. That's such an interesting way to do that. It's so smart. Creative. What would you say is the hardest thing about being a voice actress? Getting out there. Like, I mean, there's a lot of people doing it, right? And so getting, you know, I did some voice acting classes with Wes Johnson, who does a lot of characters from Bethesda games. He sends Skyrealm, he's done Fallout. So I took a class with him to like, basically, I felt like I already knew a lot of what I was doing, but I wanted to learn more about how to like, sell me, right? Like, I'd like to do this and the markets, this field, like, how do you get your voice out of the noise out of all the noise? So that's it. I mean, fortunately, I do have an advantage of being a woman. There are less of us than there are men trying to be voice actors, but there are less female roles and there are male roles. And so I do have a tendency to fuss at people when they write things and they'll be like, check out this thing all right. And I was like, you have no female characters in this story whatsoever. You need to go back to the drawing board and fix this right now. I have literally fussed at people. I auditioned for a part, I think it's about two years ago. A guy in our Discord was discussing his coming project. And he was very excited about it. And he's like, wait up, guys, the auditions are coming. And he popped out what the audition pieces were. And the only two female roles was like the Ditzy Secretary and the love interest. And I was like, absolutely not. And I was mad and I sat there with it and I wasn't going to say anything. And then all my boys were like, I'm an audition, I'm an audition. And then I made a joke about like, I'm an audition for the main character. And they all laughed and they were like, they're like, Moxie for the lead. And I was like, I messaged him. And I was like, I want you to know what you're not hearing is all the women that are very upset right now by this announcement. Because I like they were coming to me and they were very mad. And I was like, you're not hearing how mad they are at your choices of characters. I was like, I've been defending you because you are a great guy. And I know you just didn't think about it. You just didn't consider that any of these characters as a thing. People say, well, what makes the difference between a male character and a female character? I was like, fucking nothing, the voice. The unless the storyline is literally a baby falling out of a vagina. Oh, it doesn't matter. Anybody can play the role and just whether or not they fit it. And so but if you're you always write what you know, right? Yeah. And so a guy's going to write a guy character because it's what he knows. And so I'm never mad about it, but I'm always like, I expect more. And so I'm telling you this. So I did audition for the part. I did not get it because he had something else in mind for that character. But I did get the second best character. In that script because he was like, you made me think. And I was like, I realized this character could easily be a female. It's like, exactly. That's all I'm saying is just look at your characters and go, does it have to be a guy? No, it doesn't because like the voice is all that matters. Like so that can be very frustrating. I will admit, when Matt first asked me about the podcast and I looked at whoever else was on it, it's because the podcast kind of fill is me and then a bunch of guys. I did think going into it, I'd be the only person playing a female character in our first season. And I was, yeah, Matt, she said I was pleasantly surprised to find Gertrude. Yeah, that works. That works really well in tabletop, honestly, I find a lot of men tend to play female characters. And I have always been fascinated by that. I'm like, what makes you do that? Because I can say I have never played a male character. I have no desire to play a male character. Like, as you guys asked me by pronouns, I identify she, her, all girl, always. And like, and I'm all about female power. It's just who I am. And so like, I have no desire to be a guy, not that they have a desire to be a woman, but like I just, I've never played a man. I've never played a real male character. So with me, it was interesting because I created it and she's a strong character. I love her character. I'd love to play her to like her again, but at least part of my decision making on that was okay. I want there to be at least a one female character here. And again, Gertrude was there. I mean, have worried as for a second. I was completely wrong with my selection. And then I found that because there was someone playing this female character and Gertrude is in every single season, she's recurring. I was freed up to play male characters and to experiment with different characters and different genders and different types that were further away from who I am. Then the unit was, it was very interesting to have that experience. Yeah, I could see how that is. We, like I said, I played with women. Our GM was male only because we couldn't really find a female here who GM'd. But also he's an incredible GM, like fricking incredible. Like, I would play this man's table any day. And his safety, his use of safety tools is phenomenal. And that was one of the things we also focused on was the use of safety tools and how that should look. And so, but we met none of us played males, but we did play gender differences. Like we played trans, we played gay, we played asexual. Like we played all sorts of things like that, but we all played not male. And I think that was just it wasn't even a decision. I think that's just how we all came to the table and we played for three years. So I think we have five seasons all told. One of them's never going to be finished, unfortunately, but it is what it is. Life, life goes on. Yeah. Back once in a day. Oh, I'm sorry, go on that. So I'm just going to add to that. How, how much do you think it is important for diversity in this kind of world's kind of work? I think voice acting. I think diversity is very important across the board in life in general. Like as a female, I joke all the time, I'm a woman in the tech industry. I joke that I'm the only woman in the room in almost everything I do. I tabletop, I podcast, I do tech stuff like I rarely run into other women. That is changing now. But the, you know, like I'm a tech girl from the 90s and so seeing that change has been brilliant. But yeah, I mean, when you see someone who looks or sounds like you in the media that you consume, it changes you. I literally tweeted about this yesterday. I was like, what media have you, have you watched or seen or listened to that changed your life? And for me, a really big moment was Marissa Tomei and my cousin, Vinny. Such a silly little movie, but it was the scene where she's on the court and she's talking about cars and she's talking with authority about cars. And prior to that, I had never seen a woman on a show talking about crap like she knows what she's talking about. And I was like, oh, that's crazy. And then you'd like, and then I'm the lowest common denominator, right? I'm a Caucasian woman. I'm in like a middle class. Like I don't have a lot of differences for me. So like, if I get that excited to hear something that represents me, can you imagine being trans, gay, black, Asian? Like how effective that is to see somebody who looks like you suddenly feel like you belong, that you're part of something. And the more we do that, the better for everyone. Because it first of all makes it so much more interesting, because we all bring our own perspectives and our own loves. And that's just what makes the world a better place in general. And I mean, that's podcasting, that's television, that's movies, that's Broadway. Girl, I remember the first time I saw a curvy girl on stage. I grew up in the 90s. They were bean poles. And I am not a bean pole and seeing a woman who looked like me on stage, I was like, oh, oh, that means I could be that person. And that brings so much hope to people, to see their representation. With that in mind, I guess, if you could choose any character of any piece of media, whether or not it's been adapted for, like, I guess a film or an audio thing or voice art to the market, what character would you want to play? Oh, gosh, anything. Anything that's a long gamut. Um, I mean, there's all sorts of stuff I'd play. I'd be Witcher, like that sounds cool. Yeah, I'm a huge Witcher fan, but like, yeah. Something probably evil or bad. I like bad guys. There are a lot of fun to play. Um, and like, because I look the way I look and I sound the way I look, I often get cast as like the girlfriend or the sister, you know, so like getting something like just evil incarnate would be a lot of fun. But I can't, I can't think for the life of me. And maybe, you know, Harley Quinn would be a lot of fun. Um, but like, like Kaylee Kakoa's Harley Quinn, where she's just chaotic as crap. And you're like, you don't know what's going to come out of her mouth. I kind of like something like that. So we've just been diverting because some of the stuff you can say, and it's incredible. Oh, well, thank you. I can go on and on. It's a thing. Do I mean, we've been going off in the background, just trying to message you have a scene. She's already answered this, but this is a good one to add. So what kind of changes have you seen in the voice acting kind of community, job role over the years of doing it? Well, like I said, I think a lot of impact, as you can tell, have no problem speaking my mind when it comes to something that's important to me. And so I've changed a lot of perspectives on changing genders of characters or even just giving them something completely different. I've been in the bad guy because they were like, once I started hearing me, they were like, Oh, you know what? I think we've got a role for you and the role completely changes. And so I created at one point, I had created a discord that was specifically for non-male voice actors. It was, you know, originally I was like, it's the divas and it'll be about women. But then they were like, what about trans women? What about, you know, trans men? I was like, OK, I'm not mad at this. We're trying to open the floor to people that are not commonly expected. I've made a lot of friends along the way. And I have these conversations constantly. And I think they're good conversations to be had. And I think I have the A, the experience, but also like the, I don't want to say clout. That sounds like a terrible word, but like, I can speak about it in a way because I'm in a, like, I am in the privileged place and I know that. So I know that I can lend my privilege to people whose voices can't be heard. And so I've reached out to people and I'm like, Hey, I've got somebody that I think you should cast for this. I think this would be interesting differently because of it. And so realistically, really what I've seen the biggest changes is the tabletop community. Like when I grew up playing D and D, y'all like, you know, I was the only girl at the table. I was the girlfriend at the table. Not even the girl at the table. I was the girlfriend at the table. When I first showed up, they were afraid of me and did not want me at their table. Like at all, unfortunately, I have a pretty easy going personality. And I have the humor of a 14 year old boy. It is a fact. And so it plays out really well. I get along with guys really well. But like the last five years, what I've seen evolve in the tabletop community between all of the new independent games that have come out. I mean, things like glitter hearts and. Trying to think of some of the thirsty sword lesbians like those are games you would have never expected to have heard of in the early odds. And now here they are and they are commonplace and they are being put on podcasts. And one of the games we did play was called The Watch. And it was written by a trans woman. And the whole concept of the game is some evil has taken over the land. The land has been ravished, but this evil only affects males. And so females or female identifying characters are the the watch. It's their job to watch against this evil. And like I said, because it was written by this trans woman, there's a lot involved in the gameplay addressing that and it was fascinating. We decided to play that literally the day Skoda's got got rid of abortion rights. We were mad, we were stinking mad and we were like, how can we express this in a way that we can control? Because like, hey, let's be real, I'm not going to change Skoda's mind. And so, but yeah, seeing the changes in the community, I auditioned this past week for an actual play and they and I've seen this for a couple of years now where they were like, we are putting a dominance on VIP O.C. People. I was like, I might not get it because I'm not that. And I have to be okay with that. I had a guy friend. I was like, Oh, here's a chance. I was like, I'm so sorry. I was like, you're not going to stand a chance. I was like, you're a white dude. You're out. That is not what they are looking for here. And I do feel bad because he would love to play. But like, this is how we let other people in. And so just seeing that community grow in such a beautifully represented way has been amazing. I think I can attest to that too a little bit because even three years ago, the only people I knew who really played TTRPGs were dudes. And now I'm in a college class with like four non binary and female people who all are sprinted to D&D. Right. And it's so interesting to see that be so fun, like that switch. Yeah, like I said, I wasn't even allowed at the table when I first started. Like, I remember the first comic bookshop I walked into and like it was like, literally your record scratch. I was like, uh, cause like a woman walked in and you would have thought I was there to murder them all. And I was like, I'm for 11 y'all. You know, I'm very tiny person. I am not intimidating at all physically. But yeah, I mean, it was it was eye opening and I didn't go back to a comic bookshop for a very long time because of that experience because I didn't feel welcome. Um, and nowadays, man, I have no trouble walking into a comic bookshop because there's almost always like a woman or a non binary person there. And I'm like, yeah, okay, I belong here. And like, I also have a lot more confidence now than I do when I was a teenager. But, um, yeah, the whole industry has shifted in such a beautiful way that I, my kids are now starting to play and I'm excited for them to have that opportunity. Uh, so with being someone who's done TTRPGs, like podcasting, and also, obviously a voice actor, what equipment do you use mic wise and? Oh, gosh, that's a really, that's a really great question. When I, when we started podcasting, like I said, I was at a studio. So I had like actual really bad ass equipment. Um, I couldn't even fathom what that probably stuff like cost because it was like, yeah, and we were in this beautiful studio, which actually had really bad acoustics, but it was so cool looking because it was in the middle of this really cool building and I had a glass window. And so we would record in front of that glass window. So people would, it's like a shopping mall, basically. So people were always walking by and my, I love to watch people. So like I just dug the crap out of that, like, and we ended up, we ended up moving from there due to some, uh, they put a radio station in there instead and then we moved to another space in the same building and then everything shut down. And so we came here and I was like, okay, crap. I, I do know what I'm doing, but we have no equipment. Well, my father, who was a musician, had a zoom R 16, which is just a good old fashion mixer, nothing special, but it has four inputs. So I bought us all a bunch of XLRs and I got a scarlet, uh, no, I use the zoom first. And so I had the zoom, I had XLRs and I got us all a bunch of cheap headphones. And that's how we record it. And it sounds fine. It doesn't sound terrible with the good sound quality and then good editing skills. You can get away with not too bad equipment. About two years ago, I upgraded to a Sure MV seven for two reasons. Well, and I wanted a nicer mic, I was getting into it and I was really enjoying it. Um, the beautiful thing with the MV seven is it's XLR and USB. And I was having a lot of trouble. I had a scarlet at that point, a two I two and discord does not like it at all. Like it just stopped working. They couldn't hear me. I couldn't hear them. It just got really frustrating. So I wanted to upgrade to something that had USB so I could still have my meetings and record with people like this, um, without having to be in my booth and then like be able to still listen. Like otherwise there was one show. I think I listened with one device recorded with another just to make it work. And it was a nightmare. So I upgraded to that. Um, and I use right now I'm plugged in directly into my laptop. But when I record professionally, I have a scarlet, um, eight, eight, eight. I can't remember. It's the four point four port one that I use. And then I have a cloud lifter because the Sure is notoriously low gain. And if I turn the gain up, it picks up everything in the room. And so, um, the cloud lifter helps get the gain up higher without picking up all of that ambient noise. Um, and so realistically at this point, the next thing I need to upgrade is my boom because this boom is a nightmare. It vibrates if I get really loud and that makes my brain really crazy. So I will probably be upgrading that in the nearest future. But I've made it work for the most part. But like as I start to, I've been auditioning for actually paid stuff. And as I've started audition for paid stuff, I'm like, I need to, like, upgrade some of this more. So, but, um, yeah, I mean, there's all sort, like I said, you can get away with quite a bit without having to spend a ton realistically. That just falls on your post, fix it in post, right? As they, as they say, um, but I, I adore this mic. And I actually travel with it because it, it's pretty compact. So I'll take my two eye too. And I will just hit the road and like, I went to the beach one time and recorded lines at the beach in a closet. Cause I like needed to get lines in, but I was like, have my cool travel. I think it's partially because I work from home. I'm used to like taking my check with me. So just to get the boom on now, have you got the same kind of cheap? You want off of Amazon as I've got? Oh, yeah, like, yeah, it's like 20 bucks. Yeah, it's awful. No, I think I'm going to probably get the, um, I don't remember which one I have one picked out. I just, it's, you know, it's like a hundred bucks and I, it's summer and I got my kids. So it's like, it'll happen. Like the, the mic I got as a gift from, like my whole theme. Like they all went in together and bought me the mic cloud lifter and the scarlet. And so that was my Christmas that year. Cause all of that equipment is not cheap for any one individual. And so, wow, I mean, I'm going to have to generally take some tips off of you at some point. I think you can talk to actually the boys in a mega star seven are very knowledgeable about their tech gear. Cause, um, they were musicians for a very long time. And so they've helped me out a ton. Like, I'm like, Hey, what is, what's going on with this mic? They're like set your settings at X, Y, and Z. Thanks. So a lot of learning has happened over the last four years because I came from no audio background whatsoever. I'm a tech nerd. So I get tech really well, but that was not my, my wheelhouse originally. I don't think any of us came from a kind of musical or audio background. But Jay, no, none of us. I think you're the by far, I thought it was not full and that sort of thing. We sort of kick everything towards you. Knowledgeful, comparable, it comes with time, man. Like I joke, like when we're writing what plugs in any of my shows, I'm like, it's almost like we know what we're doing. Because you just get to a point where you've been doing it long enough that you start, you just figure it out. Like you're like, Oh, use this tool. Use that tool. Use this mic. Use these headphones, set it to this. And like it's just from trial and error. And being brave enough to try. So what would you say to anyone that is trying to get into voice acting? Um, the biggest thing I say to people in general with this stuff is even tabletop voice acting. I have a friend who does like sketch comedy is find your community. Find your community, whether that be on discord, whether that be on Twitter, wherever it is, you're at, find them and interact with them. Ask them questions that the best way to learn is from others who've done it. Or figure it out together. Sometimes just having a soundboard to spit things out and be like, what do you think of that? Don't I say like that's, I mean, that's that's how I found all of this is I was leveraging games on other shows. And I made so many friends. I was in discord specifically for tabletop RBGs and I made tons of friends and learned how they did stuff. And they might have done stuff differently than I would, but I learned things from them. And then also you've grown a community. So you just have people to talk about your stuff too. And and you might be doing something and think you're doing a great job. And then be like, yeah, but I'm having this one issue. And they're like, have you tried X, Y and Z and you're like, Oh, I never thought of that. But you know, it was something simple. So I find your community. You don't have to like be on their shows or anything, but just talk to them. Like I learned all sorts of tabletop stuff, just talking to other actual play people. And like, you know, how do you, you know, how do you sit around the table and do it? Are you only doing it online? Well, how do you do your dice rollers, you know, or in voice acting? It's like, how do you, you know, how do you get in the mood? How do you, you know, rough your throat up? And I've done some classes. So some of that's helped. I had to ask at one point, I ladder season of Omega Star seven season two, I had a screen a whole lot. And I was like, Hey, how do I scream into the mic without popping it or muddying it? You know, like where I've gone red, you know, I'm like, how do you do that? I'm speaking. Yeah, thank you. This word I was looking for. Thank you. Haven't enough coffee today, apparently. And so like, how do I do that? And so I, the guys had some suggestions, but I had other people coming at me. And they're like, well, this is how I do it. They're like, make sure you stand up. Make sure you're this far away from your mic. Make sure your game set to this based this way instead of this way so that it's not picking up all of it. And so it's just like that. Cause like, I didn't know what I could YouTube it, I guess, but hearing it from somebody that you know, say, this is how I did it adds to your catalog of information. And then you've made friends along the way. It's funny. You should say about the screaming. I literally just asked our friend Reed who does our music. I was like, how do you scream into a mic without it peeking it? He was just basically saying, just turn your game down. Yeah, turn your game and don't, you know, usually you kind of recorded like this angle. What is that? Like a 35 degree angle? You just turn a little bit further away and pull yourself away a little bit further and then you scream. Probably good to warn the people who are downstairs that you're screaming. The first time I did it, I was at my other house and I called all my neighbors. I was like, Hey, just FYI, I'm going to be recording some screams. I'm OK, because I didn't want like the cops to be called on me or something. Cause like it's, I mean, you're screaming like really loud. But yeah, it's just stuff like that. And I'm sure any good. Sorry. No, it's OK. So are there any friends that you want to give a quick shout out to? Oh, gosh, I mean, like all my creators. I mean, the Omega Star seven boys have been in my life for what? Three three and a half years now, I went through a divorce last year. So I spent most of my evenings on calls with them while like going through all of that. So they've been there for me constantly in a time when I really needed them. The space castle team are really amazing guys that I was supposed to go to a beer festival with back in September and my ex got COVID and so I had to have the kids. So they get to go, but I'm trying to go this year. I'd really like to see them. I've seen a lot of people, honestly. Motus Files is one of my other podcasts. It's a fallout 76 story. And I adore that show. I'm yeah, I've had a really great time and I've made so many. And I'm fully submerged now in a fallout like I I cosplay. So I have like three cosplays going right now for fallout. Of course, you know, it's fallout season, if you will. I got I got a left handed pit boy because I left handed and I got really mad that they're always on the left arm and like I was like, I have to take it off to eat. If I take a selfie, it's not going to be in the picture. And so I reached out to a guy on Etsy and was like, Hey, do you think you can make me a left handed pit boy? And he was like, I didn't know that was nobody's ever asked me. And I was like, please. And so he made me one for so so I don't have to take it off when I eat. And so I'm very excited. I'll probably the only person who has a left handed pit boy. But Hey, I don't know why I'm the only one who thought about this. That's genuinely good idea. Yeah. Well, I have now created a hashtag. There is a hashtag on Twitter, Pit Boys for lefties. And I constantly use it because I would love for Bethesda. Hey, Bethesda, I would love for you to catch up on this and make me because I bought the TV one. It doesn't come out till November, but I bought it because it's so pretty. It's metal and it's gorgeous. And it's yeah, I wasn't cheap, but, you know, sometimes a girl's got to spoil herself, but it's it's on your left arm. And so I've been like, Hey, Bethesda. Also, I don't know, maybe add it to the game. They're like, they're like, well, they'd have to code for that. I was like, you can literally change your lip, like 3,000 different shapes and colors. Surely they can code me a pit boy for my right arm. I'm just saying we know you watch. We know you watch us change it now. So this is sort of a man. All they'd have to do is just mirror the animation and just then mirror the screen. Like I said, I've got the hashtag. We're just going to keep pushing it because I know it. I mean, I grant Gary, I get it. We're 10% of the population or whatever, but that's enough of us. That's enough of us. And so I just think it makes people happy because again, it's on your arm that you eat with and you don't want to take them off because they're very fragile. You don't want to like break the hinge, taking it on and off. All day long at our con, you know? And so everybody else is like, just switch it. I'm like, no, it's thinner at the wrist than it is at the forearm. You can't just put it on the other arm. It doesn't work that way. And so at least one that's made right. So things you don't think about unless you're left handed. Are there any other podcasts that you'd recommend that you listen to? So funny enough, I'm a podcaster who doesn't listen to a lot of podcasts because I don't have a commute and I cannot listen while I work. I'm a coder. I can't split my attention like that. I will pay attention to one or the other and I'll be 3,000 episodes behind. But I Omega Star 7 is my favorite podcast, not just because I'm in it. I just adore it. The story, frankly, I was a super fan before I became part of the protection team. And they talk about me in their very first Q and A where they're like, Chrissy, the super fan, like it is. I absolutely adore it. Sound design is exquisite. The story is funny and really engaging. And it only got better as we brought on more people in the team. Not that Skylar hanging it by himself wasn't brilliant, but having other voices to help him. I think really just really brought life to the show. I love Z1 podcast. I'm not involved in that one at all, but it is a zombie podcast about a couple in this tiny town in England called Fairington. And it's just about them living their British life in a post-apocalyptic zombie land and they're brilliant. They're absolutely brilliant. Aaron and Katie, they're a real life couple and it's about Aaron and Katie. And they're like seven to 10 minutes long. They're not long at all. So they're very easy to listen to like as you go throughout your day. You know, like I fit seven minutes in. I'm going to go to the grocery store. I'll listen on the way to the grocery store. You know, it is by far one of my favorite. Memester of the Week is my favorite actual play. They play Monster of the Week again, my favorite show. They are game. I mean, they they're just fun. They're just it's a fun story that they've created. They they're dynamic at the table is very entertaining. And I don't listen to a lot of actual plays. That's not my jam, but I was listening to it at the time because I was researching games and stuff like that and fell into it and I just digested them. And I've actually played with their creator at one point as just for fun. Z's. What else? I try to think of what other podcasts I listen to. I listen to the modus files. I try to listen to any show I'm on because I'm in it. So I feel like I should at least know what's going on. Frankly, Wizard Scrolls is one I'm on. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely positively ridiculous. When I first joined it, I almost didn't use my name as a credit because I was like, I mean, the joke, the jokes are about pot and 69 like constantly. It is irreverent and crass and I swear a whole lot, but it's very entertaining and it's very cute and it's a lot of fun. And to be fair, I am the lead female and the lead protagonist. So there is that going for me, I guess. But what Chris has created there is it's quite fun. And he's animated at some, which is amazing. I get to see my voice animated. That was the biggest cool thing I've ever. I was like, holy cow, I'm animated now. I've been a cartoon. So yeah, again, though, I'm a mom of two kids. I frankly am so busy. I have so many roles. I'm in like a dozen shows, y'all. And so my free time is fairly limited. And when I'm really like free time, I'm playing video games, which is not very often. So I'm going to be on my video games. And so that's my dream. Now we've got to ask what games do you play? Oh, well, currently 76 because I fell into that. Like I said, I joined the modus files and I was not a Fallout girl at all. I knew of it because my ex-husband played it, but I've never played it. And so I was like, well, I should at least know what Fallout is. If I'm going to like represent this podcast and I got Fallout 76 for the playstation. And I started playing it very overwhelmed. First MMO I've played since WoW in the early 2000s. I'm a girl who went through game or gate. So I'm very anxious about playing online with other people. And so I was very apprehensive, but it actually turned out to be such a beautiful community that it sucked me right in. Like the community surrounding Fallout in general is pretty amazing. And the 76 community is beautiful. Now you have your jerks. You're always going to have your jerks. But as a general audience, they are quite incredible. And so long story short, all of my guys on my team play on the Xbox. It's not a cross-platform game. And so I was like, dang, I can't play with you. If only I had an Xbox, but I was in the middle of a divorce, there was no way I was going to afford that. So I put it on my throne on Twitter. I was like, hey, just that. I'm just going to put that out there. Anybody want to buy me an Xbox. And sure enough, I got an Xbox bot for me. And so I started playing in late July, early August last year. And I leveled to 577 this morning. So I play a lot when I can. Yeah. Well, I know people who played since Alpha, who were only level 300. And that was six years ago. They've been playing for six years. So apparently my skills have stayed with me after all these years of not playing games. So, but I played Witcher for a really long time. Witcher 3 is totally my jam. I played a lot of Don't Starve, which is a Clee game. It's a survival game. Love, love, love Clee games. They're cerebral in a really fun way. I was a PC gamer for a really long time. Then I got the Xbox. So slowly but surely I'm starting to realize that a lot of those games are now on the Xbox. And I do not have to upgrade the laptop, which these days are very expensive. So I'm okay having them as separate entities for their specific purposes. She gestures to the TV behind her. You can see how I play here. But yeah. So, and frankly, I mean, I'm discovering games all the time. I played a little bit of Mass Effect, but I didn't have a lot of time to put towards it. I'd like to try to pick it up again at some point. But it's just a matter of time, which I don't have a ton of. People are like, "You should try that." I'm like, "Yeah, I'll add that to the list." That's there. I think we will have a backlog of games we've always, we've bought more like that. Right. It's like your Tooby Red pile. You always have the pile of books that you're like, "I'll get to that." Yeah, it's the Tooby Gamed pile. Yeah, there's definitely-- I'm looking at mine now. Or you sometimes just want to go back. Like I played Stardew Valley for ages. And like, you know, sometimes you just want a little bit of Stardew Valley in your life. That's why people who like to watch people game, I'm like, "I can't understand that because my time is so limited. If I'm gonna be doing anything related to games, I want to be playing." But I am a gamer girl, so it's a thing. Sorry. Sorry, I have lots of dogs. I don't know if you can hear them. Sorry. It's all good. No. So that's the last question. I don't know where you're looking at me. Does it do want to close the air? Oh, sure. So real quick, can you tell people where to find you if they want to just like to wear a handle whatever? Yeah, okay. So I am Chrissy Williams. You can find me on Twitter @xcrissyx. It's pretty easy. K-R-I-S-S-I with Xs on each side. I have a website. It's virtualcrissy. V-I-R-T-U-A-L K-R-I-S-S-I dot com. That has links to pretty much everything, all of my shows to my IMDB to, I think maybe my Discord? I don't know. Xcrissyx is pretty much B everywhere because I've had it for so long. Like once email became a thing, that's how long I've had it. That was my first email address. And so not, that's not true. I had email at AOL, but we don't count that. But yeah, so I'm on Twitter the most. I am on Instagram and some of the others, but that is more private because my children are there and I keep them separated from my online persona. And I don't want, I've had some issues with people trying to find me. And so I try to keep my kids safe as best I can. So I keep anything that can literally locate where I'm at. I keep private so that you can't find me there. You can find me, but you're not going to be able to friend me. But yeah, Twitter is pretty much on there, pretty much all day. Thank you then for coming to find the bar with Pinot Fulu. Yeah, no, thanks for having me. Like, I was like, oh, an interview. Yeah, let's do that. That sounds fun. Well, I mean, as you've been saying, your time is limited. We do very much appreciate you giving us this time. Oh, of course. Yeah. Well, without further ado, thank you very much. And goodbye to anyone who's listening. Goodbye, people. And cut. Cut. [Music] [Music] [BLANK_AUDIO]