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Madame Web Star Blames YOU for the Movie’s Failure!

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06 Jul 2024
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Madame Web was a massive critical and commercial failure and one of its stars, Emma Roberts, blames "internet culture" for its abysmal box office. Does anybody even REMEMBER this movie anymore? It came and went. ➡️ Tip Jar and Fan Support: http://ClownfishSupport.com ➡️ Official Merch Store: http://ShopClownfish.com ➡️ Official Website: http://ClownfishTV.com ➡️ Audio Edition: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qJc5C6OkQkaZnGCeuVOD1 Madame Web Star and Hollywood need to stop blaming audiences for the failure of movies and take responsibility for their own shortcomings. 00:00 Madame Web Star blames viewers for the movie’s failure. 00:20 Madame Web movie failed at the box office, and actress Emma Roberts is blaming the audience and internet culture for the failure instead of taking responsibility. 01:46 Movie’s failure blamed on internet culture, unpredictability of success, and timing. 02:28 Negative attitudes and marketing can lead to box office failure, as seen in examples like the Dungeons and Dragons and Blue Beetle movies. 03:16 Madame Web Star blames audience for movie’s failure due to low critical score and high audience score. 05:00 Movie failed at the box office and on streaming because people didn’t have interest in it and it objectively sucked. 05:54 Hollywood trend of blaming the audience for movie failures needs to stop. 07:06 Star blames audiences, particularly Star Wars fans, for review bombing and lack of viewership, criticizing "The Acolyte" and urging responsibility for the failure. About Us: Clownfish TV is an independent, opinionated news and commentary channel that covers Entertainment and Tech from a consumer’s point of view. We talk about Gaming, Comics, Anime, TV, Movies, Animation and more. Hosted by Kneon and Geeky Sparkles. Disclaimer: This series is produced by Clownfish Studios and WebReef Media, and is part of ClownfishTV.com. Opinions expressed by our contributors do not necessarily reflect the views of our guests, affiliates, sponsors, or advertisers. ClownfishTV.com is an unofficial news source and has no connection to any company that we may cover. This channel and website and the content made available through this site are for educational, entertainment and informational purposes only. These so-called “fair uses” are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. #Movies #Marvel #MadameWab #News #Commentary #Reaction #Podcast #Comedy #Entertainment #Hollywood #PopCulture #Tech
Clip smart coupons to save more than ever before on household essentials, everyday meals and snacks, and more at FamilyDollar. FamilyDollar, helping you do more! Hey guys, this is the audio edition of Clownfish TV. If you guys are unfamiliar with Clownfish TV, please check out the video versions of these episodes on the Clownfish TV YouTube channel and also on the Clownfish Gaming YouTube channel. Please subscribe for more podcast. Check out D-Res. That's our other podcast. The episode will begin in a couple of seconds. Thanks for listening. [MUSIC] Hello and welcome back to Clownfish TV. It is me, Geeky Sparkles. Neon is not here today, so any final beyond videos tomorrow either, so for this weekend, you are going to be spending it with me, so it's just us, so let's have some fun. Today, we're going to talk about, oh look, a movie failed, so the actors and the people behind the film automatically blame the audience. It's always the audience and review bombing an internet culture for why things don't do well, not made because your stuff sucked. So before we get into it any further, please like and subscribe. If you do, I'll give you a woohoo, woohoo, and we're going to talk about this. So out on my blog, Pirates and Princesses, we usually cover Disney things, Disney related things. Mr. Milo posted this article about Emma Roberts, and she was an actress in the movie, and she's blaming internet culture for Madam Webb flopping, because you know, it's never their own faults. It's always, you know, the horrible internet, and then we guess men, stinky men. So far, the world of Marvel has not had a very good 2024, interestingly enough, had nothing to do with the MC of its Sony and her Spider-Verse, and they're talking about one of the worst superhero films of all time, Madam Webb, and they're talking about how it was based on the character, the same name, and they made a lot of digital out of liberties with the character to begin with. But it did not do out the box office, it only did $100.3 million on an $80 to $100 million budget, not even county marketing. So it had to do at least probably $300, $400 million to break even. It didn't even make the budget back. Now we have Emma Roberts, who is an actress in the movie, she played Mary Parker in the film, and she's defending the project and saying it's being, it's being, you know, we're re-bombed and harassed because of internet culture, it's internet culture, guys, not our stinky ass movie. So she did an interview with Variety, and she said, "Things work, things don't work. Everyone likes to act like they can predict if they're going to work and if they're not." Well, in my experience, usually if you read the script and it seems like it's dog shit, it's probably going to be dog shit. Now I do think that probably cuts her made and changes are made, and so when you sign on to something doesn't, that must be means what the end product will be. But usually you can tell. And the truth is you can't. Things do badly and then they blow up later on TikTok. Things do well, but then you watch them and you're like, "This did well." There is no secret. It's all about doing something good-ish and hitting it in the right time. Everything else is like a wish and a prayer. I'm not intimidated by failure, and I'm not intimidated by people having negative thoughts about something. I agree. I mean, there are things that are actually really good, but they didn't do well. And sometimes you just don't know, sometimes this is not the right marketing, sometimes, you know, attitudes, people involved with it, you know, hurt something. I know like the Dungeons and Dragons maybe, for example, they had people working on the movie that were out there saying about how it was subverting men and all this other stuff, which it never did. But because they went out there and said that, it preemptively caused damage that led the box office failure, same with like Blue Beetle. They had the one thing about Batman the Fascist. Now in context, it makes sense, but they had to put it in a trailer to be like, "Ha ha ha, we're so funny." And then the director, I guess, was making comments too they shouldn't have made. So when the box office came out, people didn't go because you pissed people off. It's not really that hard. Same with shows like How I Bebop, you had the one actress on there playing Fae going off about stuff and acting like, you know, minds that covered up and everything else and kind of being like everybody who liked this or complains is like is to phobic asshole, a misogynist to a asshole. And because of that, people didn't support it. It really isn't that hard. Those working on the movie should just keep their mouths shut. At least in this case, she waited until long after to say anything. She's going to continue. I personally really loved Madam Webb. I really enjoyed the movie. I thought everyone in it was great. You're also coming at it from a different perspective because you're talking about you and the friends and the people you made, friends with working on the movie and the experience you had that might have been a positive one for you on your side. Doesn't mean it translates to the movie. The director, S.J. Clarkson, I think did an amazing job. She's the reason I wanted to do that movie. If it wasn't for internet culture, everything being made into a joke, I think that reception would have been different. I don't think so. And that's what bums me out about a lot of stuff. You know, stuff that I've done is people make, this is just make a joke out of everything now. No, they don't. People don't make a joke of everything. People make a joke out of things that suck. And Madam Webb sucked. Critical score, 11%. Audience score, 57%. Now, usually if you have a bad critical score and you have a high audience score, you usually know it's going to be pretty good. The other way, not so much, but the critical score is 11. The audience is 57, it is not. This is not, this looks to me like the majority didn't think, didn't agree with you, didn't think so. In the movie, the people want to see the main stream, the normies, the masses, we'll go see it. They didn't go see this movie, $100 million box office means they didn't have the interest in it in the general audiences to go see the film. There just wasn't interest in it. And even though it's been out on streaming, there's, to still make it fun, people weigh the streaming and they reviewed it after streaming and they still get bad reviews. So it wasn't because they even felt like they didn't want to waste their mind to theater, which is also a bad sign. But now that's been on stream for a while, people have had plenty of time to watch it, they still don't want to watch it or they still think it sucks. Maybe it just sucks and I get and respect that you're proud of it. Cool, you know, I get it, you know, sometimes we do things that we're really proud of or we think we worked really well on, but then maybe the end product wasn't great and we're proud of our part in it and it might have gotten changed in some way or, you know, whatever, but people don't see it the same way and that's cool, that's fine, that's valid. But this movie objectively sucked. It's this trend we keep seeing out of Hollywood where they just blame the audience. The actors, the showrunners, the directors, the, you know, producers, whomever, the writers, it's always the audience's fault. If it didn't do well, it wasn't because maybe we didn't resonate people and it's always somehow the vocal minority, but yet they somehow tank the whole thing. I mean, it doesn't make sense. You can't be the vocal minority yet the overwhelming majority that somehow tank this. It really doesn't make any sense. So this is just like, I just did an audience blaming search on Google. Why are they always blaming the audience 2022? Directors need to stop blaming the audience for their flops one year ago. Blame the audience. Directors need to stop blaming audiences for their flops 2023. Studios quit blaming the audiences for your failures eight months ago. Many, too many storytellers blame the audience 2023. It goes on and on. Directors blaming the audience is a trend that needs to stop movie web 2023. It just goes on and on. People are just like, they're tired of it. Blame the audience doesn't work. Stop blaming your audience. Ten filmmakers are blaming their audience for movie failures. Everybody's noticing it. Stop doing it. It's not a new thing, but it's gotten much more magnified. I'd say in the last eight to 10 years that it was before. You go out and search, for example, Star Wars. You have the Star Wars fans are being weird about the acolyte because everything's review bombing, don't you know. If it doesn't do well with audiences, it's review bombing. Now, if critics don't like it, that's just fine or if they do love it and the audience hates it, then it's even more fine. It's review bombing. It's always the audience who hates it. In this case, the critics hated it more than the audience, but it's always review bombing. That's what they're going to blame it on. Here we have Star Wars fans. I just search Star Wars fans in the last news in the last little bit. Star Wars fans are being weird about the acolyte. Star Wars, biggest problem is the fans. It's Cameron. Hi, Cameron. The only winner of the Star Wars culture was Disney. Star Wars fans will never be happy, and that's their loss, et cetera, et cetera. It's always the fans' fault. It's not just the studios and so on. It's their trusted media. A lot of times you'll see a lockstep with several media outlets at once, either across media outlets that are owned by the same company or a lot of times with their friends. The different writers write for different publications, and they go out and see what they're saying, and then lockstep, they start talking about it. But they keep pushing this narrative that, "Oh, it's great." Their new thing, they're all excited about the acolyte, for example, is about how hot the Sith is. Here, I'll show you. You got to the acolyte, and they're talking about, "We'll go out to the past week." And the most all of them were going about, "Oh, it's so great." They keep comparing it to the Last Jedi. For example, if I put in acolyte fans and hit Enter, they're talking about fan theories, and you still have the wiring being weird, but they're all like simping over the acolyte Sith guy, because he has this really awkward scene. I thought the show was for children. I thought the argument was, if you didn't like Last Jedi, you didn't like Rise of Skywalker. It didn't matter, because the show was for children. But I don't think it's for children when you have Kylo Ren running around with Naik with Topless, and you have Manny as a Jacinto. I liked him in The Good Place, running around, taking his pants off, and blocking up Naik into the other girl. How is that for kids? How is that for kids? We have all these comments about the review bombing, and how the people writing the show are blaming, and I reviewed it. Leslie Helen discusses review bombing. Here's what the creator thinks about review bombing. Saw Wars is review bombing. Your review bombing show is pretty expected. Somehow again, somehow you're both the vocal minority, yet you're solely responsible for all the review bombing that happened, because you're there's tens of thousands of reviews. It's all you, but yet you're still just like a toxic subset vocal minority. It's Saw Wars didn't get many of much viewers. Dr. Who didn't get many viewers. Go touch grass. They did. Didn't get much viewership, and it's not because people don't like it. It's because the small vocal minority of bigots hate it, but the masses didn't watch it either. It blows my mind the way they'll jump through hoops, but yeah, it's the audience doesn't like it. It's toxic internet culture. It's because, you know, everybody makes a joke out of things. It's not because things aren't good. No, sometimes things just aren't good, and it's about time you take responsibility for things just not being good. It is what it is. Anyway, please like and subscribe, and we'll talk to you later. Bye. Thanks again for listening. More news and videos are available on our website at www.clownfishtv.com and on our YouTube channel, ClownfishTV. You can buy official merchandise, clownfish comic books, and more at shopclownfish.com. If you like this show, please consider subscribing and leaving us a positive review on iTunes and other podcast platforms. 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