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The Acolyte: Media Tells Star Wars Fans to GROW THE F*CK UP?!
The media keeps defending The Acolyte, and now Screen Rant is telling fans to grow up and get over it, and is comparing The Acolyte backlash to the Star Wars Prequels... which they’re too young to even remember. Then we talk about the "Smilo Ren" helmet for sale and Leslye Headland, unsure if she’s getting a Season 2. ➡️ Tip Jar and Fan Support: http://ClownfishSupport.com ➡️ Official Merch Store: http://ShopClownfish.com ➡️ Official Website: http://ClownfishTV.com ➡️ Audio Edition: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qJc5C6OkQkaZnGCeuVOD1 It’s important for Star Wars fans to be able to criticize the franchise, but they should do so in a respectful and constructive manner, without resorting to toxic behavior or personal attacks. 00:00 The speaker criticizes fans who didn’t like the prequels, mocks Disney’s Star Wars, and discusses the impact of media on fan opinions. 04:28 The speaker criticizes intense review bombing and lack of clear motivation behind negative reception of Star Wars projects, and expresses frustration with the way some Star Wars audiences respond to criticism, while also believing that fans should be allowed to criticize Star Wars and sees similarities between different aspects of the franchise. 06:49 Star Wars fans criticized for toxic behavior and review bombing, told to grow up and allow criticism of movies, speaker dislikes Star Wars and won’t watch again. 10:13 Star Wars fans are being told to grow up and stop attacking new projects, as criticism is normal but hate and personal attacks are not acceptable. 13:14 Star Wars fans told to grow up and stop getting angry about articles by younger fans, speaker prefers Revenge of the Sith over Return of the Jedi. 15:36 Star Wars fans can have different opinions, but shouldn’t criticize for lore or bad acting, and young writers are being underpaid and unprofessional. 17:42 It’s important to respect differing opinions and not tie personal identity to media, criticism is valid but personal attacks are unnecessary. 20:53 The Acolyte Defender criticizes lack of promotion for Andor and potential cancellation of Acolyte, discusses uncertainty of season two, criticizes delayed release of "Darth Teeth" helmet, and suggests Disney is attempting to shame fans into returning. About Us: Clownfish TV is an independent, opinionated news and commentary channel that covers Entertainment and Tech from a consumer’s point of view. We talk about Gaming, Comics, Anime, TV, Movies, Animation and more. Hosted by Kneon and Geeky Sparkles. Disclaimer: This series is produced by Clownfish Studios and WebReef Media, and is part of ClownfishTV.com. Opinions expressed by our contributors do not necessarily reflect the views of our guests, affiliates, sponsors, or advertisers. ClownfishTV.com is an unofficial news source and has no connection to any company that we may cover. This channel and website and the content made available through this site are for educational, entertainment and informational purposes only. These so-called “fair uses” are permitted even if the use of the work would otherwise be infringing. #TheAcolyte #StarWars #DisneyPlus #Commentary #Reaction #Podcast #Comedy #Entertainment #Hollywood #PopCulture #Tech
Hey guys, this is the audio edition of clownfish TV. If you guys are unfamiliar with clownfish TV, please check out the video versions of these episodes on the clownfish TV YouTube channel and also on the clownfish gaming YouTube channel. Please subscribe for more podcast. Check out D-Res, that's our other podcast. The episode will begin in a couple of seconds. Thanks for listening. (upbeat music) - Hey guys, welcome back to clownfish TV. This is Neon, I am here with Geeky Sparkles. - Hello. - And we're gonna talk about this article on screen rant. If the acolyte's review bombing reminds you of the prequels, there's a good reason for that. - That's right, 'cause you know, you're all a bunch of crap, like crap people, like the ones who didn't like the prequels. - I just, look, I wanna be clear before we get into the video and I've said this before, because I know our thumbnails have showed up in red letter media, did a video saying if you don't like it, don't watch it. And they were serious. I mean, they weren't being facetious about it or whatever. - Well, I didn't watch the video, I just saw the clip. - Yeah, I saw the clip and they were like, look, you don't like the shows, don't watch it. He's like, I don't like New Star Trek, I don't watch it. But it's so weird that they actually brought our videos up 'cause I'm not watching it, I'm just making fun of it. - Well, not just that, you said you don't care. - I don't care, I really, truly don't care. Like to me, as far as I'm concerned, nothing that Disney has put out is actual Star Wars. Only the stuff that George Lucas made is Star Wars. That being said, we can point and laugh at just how dumb and silly it is. - That being said, didn't they like it big making fun of the pre-cles? - Ah, that is true, yes. - I'm just, okay, you know. - There's some other people, not for me, you get it. - There are some other people in the nerd space that have gotten big off of roasting other pop culture, yes. - Not the new guy, the old guy. - Old Kevin Smith, yes. He died, he died of a heart attack and then new Kevin Smith came back. - That's right. - Okay, look, you know, here's my thing, is I, what I react to is the media and their bullshit. And here's another winner of a load of shit right here. So, screen me out, put this thing about, oh, and it goes on, just wait till you see this one. It goes up, review by the mind of the prequels, because five years after the last prequel movie came out, people wouldn't review bombed it. - What? - I'm not kidding, that's what this whole thing's about. - Yeah, because you couldn't really review, okay. So, you know, being of a certain age, I was there when the prequels dropped when they came out in theaters. And I do remember, I was actually on some of the Star Wars forums, forums were a thing back then. And I remember that opening weekend, people were actually pretty happy with a fan of menace. And then they decided they weren't happy with it. And then the media actually started the whole narrative of Jar Jar Binks being a racist caricature. That never came up on the fan forums. That was like ABC news and stuff. Well, oh my God, Jar Jar Binks is a racist stereotype. How could you work on this, Amad Best, you know, this is horrible. And he was actually happy with it. - Yeah, but you know, so yeah. But they're going on about, they're talking about the typical vitriol and hatred towards the accolades. Unfortunately, nothing new for the franchise. - Wow, yeah, I mean, Star Wars. - I mean, Star Wars. - They had the people versus George Lucas. - The people versus George Lucas, the anti-George Lucas episode of "Clurx." - The part of the reason that he sold it was 'cause he got tired of people's shit. - 100%. - And they're being fair and honest, okay, that being said. Their whole argument, okay, keep going down. Their whole argument was, the prequel trilogy was reviewed on "Rotten Tomatoes" because it sat at 85% until late 2010. And then it dropped in 2011 to 64%. Now, it is weird. There was less than 200,000 votes before. And then there was 32 million votes. I think people started realizing that they could vote against movies. I think a lot of people weren't using "Rotten Tomatoes." And I think one thing I've seen is some older movies. They started dredging up old reviews that weren't included before because they were like in the newspaper, yeah, right? - Oh, that's true, yeah. - Back in the day, we didn't have all the reviews online. Like you look up a movie like "Transformers the Movie," 1986, one of my favorite movies of all time. And it's objectively not the best movie ever made and it's definitely for fans of the show, but it's a pretty good, I mean, comparing it to other toy movies of the era, it's actually probably the best of the bunch, right? And the reviews were absolutely terrible because they were all like newspaper reviews and people are like, I don't understand this. It's a bunch of robots getting killed and some heavy metal music and what the hell's going on here? But they started bringing more reviews up as they would find these archives of these old newspapers or somebody would scan it in or whatever, then they would count it. So that could be two because I mean, these movies came out '99, 2002, 2005. - Well, it's an awful lot of, you know, we're talking like a huge jump in that. So yes, it's probably weird that they got voted down, but we don't know who did it. You know, we don't know, you know, for what reason, all right? So they talk about, they said at present, the audience score is 66% and all the stuff. - Oh, it's 66%. - And then, yeah, I know we're 66, give us a go down. Maybe that was the point. - So the patterns are exactly the same, go down. This is just, the patterns to what happened with "Venture the Sith" and what's currently happened with "Acalite" are exactly the same. Almost as if in this era, "Star Wars" timeline has some kind of curse. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. - Why, 'cause there was 100 years before the prequels? The "Acalite", they're both on victim to the intent of view bombing with no clear motivation. - Because it's a terrible show. - Yes, it's a terrible show. - That's a terrible show. - And if you throw a block, people didn't like the prequels and they thought it was terrible too. - Yeah, so they're like-- - So probably why? They were really badly. - Let's do a prequel to the prequels with the same kind of stuff that George did that we didn't like before, bunch of Jedi standing around and talking and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but let's do it worse. - No, like the "Acalite" is currently sitting at 13% audience score. It's stark contrast to the critical score, 84%. Well, I love how these outlets are like, when they don't agree with the critical score, you know, that's completely different, you know? And then they said that it's the lowest, you know, rated Star Wars project in history, even more than the infamous Star Wars holiday special. Now, well, both these projects, of course, ought to come with a healthy amount of criticism in all aspects. You don't have to criticize it or you get articles like this. The way some Star Wars audiences respond to them now, just like the way they did 14 years ago, is extremely disheartening. Should come with an amount of criticism. You're not allowed to. Any of these projects sends flippin' The Force Awakens. If you criticize anything, it's because you hate women. It's because you're a racist. It's because you're a bigot. Couple of people harass actors, which you shouldn't do. And then all the Star Wars fans don't like it or terrible people who harass actors. You're not allowed to criticize this. I think it's this molly. You don't have to criticize this. I don't want to say molly. There are similar patterns between the two beyond, okay, the criticism. Wait, sorry. Oh no, here I was gonna read this part up here. Okay. There are similar patterns between the two beyond just review bombing. Members of the cast are being criticized, left or right for their acting. Well, maybe they suck. What? Maybe it's just not good. Maybe it's just not good. So far, you know, there should be a lot of criticism, but you're not allowed to criticize the acting if they're good or not. Members of the cast are being criticized, okay. They said that most of my new details, the my new details such as Key Audie Mundi's Age, where they literally retconned it, are being blown out of proportion. Now, I mean, I think people are blowing out of proportion, but the point is they're peeing on your shoe and telling you it's raining, you know? And like, you can't criticize that. So we can't criticize changes in lore. You can't criticize acting. It's utterly shocking to witness. Oh, that's not shocking. It's not shocking, shocking. Wow, but both of these priorities, of course, ought to come with a healthy amount of criticism in all aspects. You said that, okay, we have some purpose for equating that, but you're not allowed to. Why don't you allow to criticize? You can't criticize the acting. You can't criticize lore change. So let me tell you what is actually going through this author's head. Hey, chat GPT. Yeah. Write me an article calling out the Star Wars fandom for their toxic behavior. One that will get a lot of clicks and has the following buzzwords. Mm-hmm, probably. Then go down. It's time for the Star Wars fandom to grow up. That behavior accomplishes nothing, but the vise of the fandom. Oh, go ahead before I let lose it. I was just gonna say that is gonna be the title of the video. Star Wars fans told to grow up. Don't grow up. Those behavior accomplishes nothing, but divisiveness within the fandom. Big fuck you. Big fucky fuck fuck you. You know why? Because it says stupid force awakens. You're not allowed to say anything. There's no criticism that's allowed to be a criticism unless you like the movie and then you have like little nitpicky things and then you're okay. You have people like you. Meaning Molly, I think it's Molly, have divided the fandom more than anything. Because what's going on is besides the movies being crap, they're allowed to be crap, people don't think so. But you aren't allowed to think so. As soon as you disagree, you're a and certain bigot, you know, is to phobia something here. They have spent years calling the people fans in cells, trolls and caves, mom's basement, all this shit. They have done everything they could to divide the fandom. On purpose. Chokes on them. We lived in California. We didn't have a basement. There you go. I'm just saying that they're constantly going on about the fandom and all the toxic fans and they've done everything they could to cause division. And nobody's following you, starting to get something to gather like with me and the lore and people are liking it again. It wasn't getting enough clicks and headlines. You had to cause more reasons to me. You know, we had to fight them somehow. If you don't like something, it's 'cause you're a bigot. And then they start to divide. The divisiveness and the fandom boils down to the fact that the Disney sequel trilogy sucked ass had their dead. No plan and it was all over the place. And people were like, what the hell? Please, nobody by the end. - They-- - And then the media. - Yeah, well, here's the thing. I do not believe, I mean, just like I'm, you know, people think that we're like raging over Star Wars itself. I don't get-- - I thought even that it's about this shit that I get mad about. - Yeah, I don't give a shit. Disney Star Wars to me is not real Star Wars. I don't enjoy it. I don't watch it. I dipped in for the Mandalorian and I'm like, yeah, okay, it was fine. And they ruin that too, right? Whatever, I've learned my lesson, I'm not going back. Even the Andor, I heard Andor was good, I'm not watching it, I don't care. I don't think these journalists believe this either. I think there are people on social media that believe it, but I think these journalists are so desperate that they're gonna take the anti-position just to get people riled up just to go, oh, I gotta read this article to see how, oh, look at their, to call me a big, oh God, I hate it. Did you read this article? Yeah, you need to read this article too, everybody. Read this article because these guys are desperate for clicks. And I think they're angry. I think these people are angry because a lot of the quote unquote vitriol is coming from YouTubers and YouTubers are gonna stay employed and they're not. I think there's a lot of issues going on. My thing here is the fact that they keep attacking fans. It's the divisiveness 'cause you're a shitty person. No, it's divisiveness 'cause you're a shitty person. They're no fucking fans left, that's a problem. That's why all this shit is rotting at Ollies. That's why nobody's buying the Disney Star Wars shit. They're buying original trilogy stuff, but they've chased the fans off. They're like, grow up? Yeah, guess what? They did grow up and they're like, yeah, I'm too fucking old for toys. I'm too fucking old for Star Wars. I'm not gonna fucking watch it, buy it, support it. See ya. - We're here, they're gonna shame you more. So the most discouraging part about all this, having to come to terms with the fact that the Star Wars fan was not yet learned from our previous mistakes. Everyone should have learned from the renaissance of the Star Wars period trilogy that approaching projects with hate leaves nothing lost, but lost opportunities and divisiveness. - Yeah, well, the people, the fans were the ones who didn't learn that. Those who grew up with the prequels were ashamed for it really, and were ashamed for it really should know better now. Hopefully those are the same people who are going out to the acolyte in such a way. Well, the acolyte is nowhere near as good as the prequels and that's saying something. - The hell I know, right? - A wave of this vitriol hatred has done nothing but harm, those within and even outside the fandom. Where? How's the hard people outside the fandom? And the lessons on how it hasn't been learned. - Site examples, there are no examples. That's why I'm like, is this AI generated in part? Because I'm like, you show some examples. So help me God, you better not use. Kelly Marie Tran was harassed. - They pray well. - And Moses Ingram was harassed. - They said that there's a stark difference between disliking a project and taking time to review bomb it. So we've learned, you cannot criticize acting. You cannot criticize lore changes. You cannot go and give it a negative review if you don't like it because that's mean. If you dislike it, you have to not also review bombing it. But you know what? Well, if you like me, it doesn't give you a reason to try to alter the views of the positive either, but people are doing it. Criticism is normal, except you're not allowed to have any criticism. That's all, okay, criticism is normal and has them will continue to make positive changes when it's delivered correctly. That's how it accomplishes nothing except infighting and deep hurt. Again, suck it bitch, because you know what? People were mad about this and you don't understand like if you didn't like it, you were called. I got called an eternalized misogynist by some guy who wanted to argue with me about Rey. And then when I didn't agree with him, he called me a C-word in Spanish. And he was after he told me I was a misogynist, okay? This is a kind of shit, I can tell you a bunch of other people deal with the same kind of shit. And then you're like, you're not allowed to criticize it. You're supposed to be supposed to make positive changes, but you're inciting and deep hurt. Well, a lot of people were infighting because people keep writing articles like this. - I don't think she is writing this article. The first sentence of the last paragraph, this is what chat GPT does when you ask it to write an article. It says, "In summation or in conclusion or in whatever. In sum, it's time for Star Wars audiences to be better." And it's been that time for many, many years now. I think this is AI-generated. So not only do I have suspicions about this article being potentially AI-generated, but here's the reason this person's so as mad, Molly Brazil. Brazil is a Star Wars editor for Screen Rant. She graduated from college in 2021 with a communications degree. During her academic career, Molly earned several awards and honors for her writing. Most recently, she had the chance to work as a passenger services crew member aboard the Star Wars Galactic Star Cruiser. - Oh, she's the one that wrote the article about poor, poor, galactic star cruiser employees. I want to know your favorite media is Star Wars. Wait, wait. Molly has been Star Wars fan her whole life. The Mandalorian is her favorite, but she's been a fan her whole life. Well, I guarantee you, since she like graduated in 2021, she wasn't even around when this stuff was popular. - Yeah, so this is what I'm saying. Like the freaking, the prequels were over and done with she was the child. Like you weren't there, Molly. You don't remember what it was actually like. And I can tell-- - I was, Molly. - So many of the people that are getting so angry now, like the Go After Nerd Rotic, he's older than we are. He was there for the original Star Wars, right? Like the whole fucking trilogy. He was the right age for that. - Oh, we were too little. - We were little, but you know what I'm saying? I very distinctly remember the drama around the special editions. I very distinctly remember, 'cause I was actually active on the forums at that time. I very distinctly remember what went down with the prequels and a lot of people at first didn't hate the Phantom Men as that came later. But even then, don't even compare it to Revenge of the Sith because most people consider that one to be the best of the bunch. Hands down. It was the best of the prequels. - Oh, wait, that's one of your favorites. - It actually is. I actually like, and I won't record saying that. I've said it before. I actually like Revenge of the Sith better than Return of the Jedi. - No, see, I don't care for the prequels, which is okay. And you were so married. Oh my God, we didn't get divorced. I mean, because we don't agree. I mean, holy shit. It's like people can have opinions and still get along. - Our son grew up, to him, Star Wars was Clone Wars and Lego Star Wars. - But he watched Clone Wars, he loved Lego Star Wars and he used to call Doku, he used to call him Cat Darth, - Darth Kuku. - Darth Kuku. - Darth Kuku, and we used to play with the little action figures, it was fun. - He had a bunch of the, were those little ones. - Oh, the Galactic Heroes. - Yeah, Galactic Heroes. Let's go back to her lovely article so I can shame her more. So, you know, you can't criticize. Criticism's normal, as long as you criticize it in the way she thinks it's okay. Yeah, so basically, you know, everybody hates this stuff and now they acolyte and this has caused so much harm. And acolyte can have varying reviews amongst the fandom and still be accepted as real true and valid addition. So there you go, that's it. I hope one day the movies and shows like the acolyte can have varying reviews but still be considered part of the franchise. Basically, you're allowed to have criticism but you're not allowed to have criticism. You're allowed to have criticism, you're not allowed to give a bad review. You're not allowed to criticize them or Lord God, the criticisms are bad acting. At least this person didn't throw in that you're racist, you know, whatever and you hate women. - Yeah. - Like the other ones do. But it's stupid. You can tell where can you criticize that? What can you criticize? - Things that these writers don't personally like. This is like, look, these writers have come in and a lot of them are younger because only younger people would work for the very low amounts of money that these blogs are paying now, right? They're paying, I heard like $3 an article is what they're paying at screen ramp for some of the articles. But I'm like, they're coming in and they're treating this media outlet like their personal blog. And this is why I think Google is booting a lot of the search results from sites like screen ramp, whatever, because they're just like, yeah, it's just your blog, take it to Tumblr. You know, this isn't actual news. This is you using a platform that you didn't build to just shit on people you don't like that you've had like a Twitter snap with. - I just like, we should try to be like, oh, we all should just get along. And it's like, you know what? But the ear is the kicker, but the kicker was, but the kicker was, we did. - We did for the most part. - That's just it, like, you know, we're from an era that you don't have to agree on everything, but you can find common ground to agree upon. That's why he likes the prequels. I don't like the prequels. And yet we still get along fine and we're still married 'cause we find other things we do like that we both agree on. I can still appreciate that he likes things that I don't like and vice versa. The problem is he isn't going around calling me, you know, some internalized misogynist 'cause I don't like this new stuff. And I'm not calling him a racist bigot because he doesn't like something I like. This is, it's stupid. I also understand that if you have a valid criticism, you're allowed to criticize. If you think the acting sucks, you can say the acting sucks. If you think that it looks cheap, you can say it looks cheap. If you want to give it a negative review by Golly, you are allowed to give it a negative review or positive review. I'm tired of the division. Isn't because of this over the acolyte honey, sweet cheeks. It's been like this for, since "Star Wars" put out the "Force Awakens" and those who didn't like it were immediately called "Naves." And day one. - Yeah, that's the difference. The difference is when it turns into personal insults. Back in the day, I mean, look, we used to all argue over which was the best "Star Wars" movie. You know, I remember magazines coming out and I think it was like "Cyniscape" or something. One of the magazines that came out and they had a whole big issue on why "Return of the Jedi" wasn't as good as "Empire." And they were just kind of venting comic book nerds, but you know, any kind of fan of any franchise that they've done this for years, the new wrinkle is turning it into a personal attack on people who like something or don't like something. And it's got, then even taking that a step further. It's not just attacking the person, but actually trying to call them like bigots and racists and homophobes and stuff. And that's the new wrinkle. That's where it got really weird. And it's because we have a whole generation of stands. They're not fans. They're stands who I think their own personal identity is so tied up in a piece of media that they did not create, right? Like, and they actually take it as a personal, like I've been trying to figure out for years, like why do these cartoon stands get so upset if you make fun of a show? Because their identity is tied up in the show. If anybody should be upset, it should be the showrunner. There are cases where we've roasted the hell out of a show or movie and like the showrunner doesn't have us blocked, you know? 'Cause they know that's part of the business, right? You put stuff out there and people like it or don't like it or whatever. And sometimes, look, people have actually put things out there. And they've been like, yeah, I objectively, I made a terrible movie, you know? I tried, it was shit. Next time I'll try to make a better movie. But it is what it is and you move on. But these people are just like, their identity is so wrapped up in this stuff. If anybody should be crying, it's George Lucas, but he's crying into his fistfuls of money he took from Disney. And that's why he did it. He didn't give a shit, $4 billion. So, like, I mean, he does give a crap. Well, he does. I mean, he keeps saying stuff, but I think he made a deal with the devil. Yeah, the devil wears mouse ears. But yeah, this is lame. And this explains everything. Like, okay, you worked for, okay, you worked on the star cruiser and you graduate college like two years ago, three years ago. Yay. Do you want to talk about some other accolade news? - Yeah, you can real quick. - Oh, okay. So, Leslie Hadlin, not sure if she's gonna get a season two. I don't think she's gonna get a season two. Who knows, supposedly they're doing a season two of Andor and like nobody watched Andor. - Yeah, but it didn't get like the hate that this is getting. - No, that's-- - And it was also diverse, just saying. - Well, they didn't promote it. They didn't promote Andor at all. I think if they were like, "Hey, we've got a spin-off of what is arguably the best of the Disney Star Wars movies." And it's, you know, and it's actually, you know, feels like legit Star Wars. You guys should watch it, but they're too busy promoting Ahsoka and too busy promoting all the shitty Marvel shows and do anything for Andor. But they sent an entertainment weekly. I said, "You mentioned a possible season two." So not knowing when you crafted the show how many seasons you were gonna get, did you craft a firm season finale like Obi-Wan or is it teeing up for more stories like Ahsoka? And she's like, "Oh, yeah, you want to leave it wrapped up?" But there's also enough for more, but I don't know if there's gonna be a season two. I took the approach. I threw everything in the season one because who knows what's gonna happen? And then I'd say there are four or five major mystery or plot points that have to get hit on season two, but until we get a proper pickup. So it hasn't been greenlit yet. I worry that spending a lot of time in that world, especially being in a period where I've worked so long in this project that I'm exhausted coming out of it, it's kind of jump into it like, "All right, season two." I don't know if there's gonna be. I mean, Disney's gonna look at this. They are cutting back. I think the only reason this thing got put through anyway was because it was too far into production. And it costs too much. And there were actually other articles out there talking about how every episode of this thing costs more than Godzilla minus one. And are they gonna get the return on this that we got on Godzilla? Hell no. - Probably not. - Hell no. They're not gonna sell the damn action figures, but they are selling the helmet. Smylo Ren, they're calling him Darth Teeth. - Yeah, they cut out Darth Teeth. - Is that his real name? I don't think this is real name. I think they're calling him The Stranger. - I don't really care. I'm calling it bullshit. That's what I'm calling it. - So they're selling the helmets. They're taking pre-orders for the helmets. This is very curious. They're not making the same mistake that they made with the Riva Lightsaber, where if they failed in public, you ever may could see it and make fun of it. They're taking pre-orders 'cause it's not shipping until over a year from now. - Yeah, more than a year. - And that's estimated, it might be later than that. Over a year from now, so this is very much a Haslab type thing, but they're not doing it through Haslab because you can see the numbers. And I don't think the numbers are gonna be good. 'Cause that would show you-- - But the price is cheap too, I think relatively speaking for something like this. - Yeah. - It's an electronic helmet too. - Okay. - I'm just like, I have-- - Haslab would have charged more. - I just, I don't know. Yeah, people are calling him Smylo Ren. I, I, I, I, I, whatever. - I digitally rendered images too, not even real. - Oh, this isn't even a real deal. - Maybe they could sell it as an NFT or something. I don't know. Are these rings? Is that what, like, coil? I don't know what this is. I don't care. That's the thing, everybody's like, oh, the fans are, it's like, no, what's going on? Is every time there's another fiasco like this, you chase the fans way. You're telling Star Wars fans to grow up. Well, most of us are. Most of us are in our 30s, 40s, 50s. - Yeah, we didn't grow up there from college like three years ago. - Right. And we're taking our money with us. And that's why Disney's freaking out. And that's why all these, these people are coming out. The woodwork, trying to simultaneously shame you for not liking these shows and also shame you into, like, coming back. And you know what I'm saying? Like, that's not very good. - Yeah, you have to watch it, but you can't complain about it. - You have to watch it by the much bigot. But, you know, you can't say anything about it. Just shut the fuck up. - Can you just further dividing everyone? It's like, no, no, no, no. See, that's not what happened. People turned their backs on you because, one, the product has been shit. But, two, the behavior around people in the media, in social media, in Lucasfilm, has been shit. - Oh, absolutely, absolutely. So we're gonna wrap this up. - Yep. - Please subscribe for more pop culture news views and rants, guys. Grow up, grow up, everybody. - Do you think what you've done? - Think you think about what you've done. You've made smile-o-rens sad. We might have to turn that frown upside down. You can do that on a render, right? Just turn that upside down. - Yeah, you can actually, yeah. - All right. We'll see you later. - Bye. 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