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JackJumpers coach Scott Roth (19/07/24)

JackJumpers coach Scott Roth joined Brent and Painey for an extensive chat about defending their championship, Jack McVeigh heading to the NBA and his frustration with the progress on the team's high performance centre.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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18m
Broadcast on:
18 Jul 2024
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mp3

JackJumpers coach Scott Roth joined Brent and Painey for an extensive chat about defending their championship, Jack McVeigh heading to the NBA and his frustration with the progress on the team's high performance centre. 

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I just feel really, really good coming back, and last year I was excited, but this year I'm even more excited, and when I woke up this morning and saw the sunrise over here, I don't know if anyone got to see it this morning was spectacular, so it's all good. I'm ready to go. Well, it's, I mean, you've got a championship, first of all, which is always nice, I guess, but those first three years are so difficult, weren't they, with COVID, and you're living your family behind and stuff, so it's just back to a bit of normality now, I suppose, for you, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, this was the first really trip back to the States where I didn't feel rushed and I could really take my time and had some really great little trips and went to Canada with my daughter fishing, and it was just very relaxing, finally, to just kind of not have to do much with this house that I was being built and just enjoying myself, and yeah, the rhythm of what we're doing is kind of back on place with the league and so on and so forth. So, yeah, we're ready to go. It's going to be before we get into Jack McVay and the Olympics and Will Magnae, I'm just wondering, now you are back with a championship, is there a different mentality than Jack Jumpers over the years have been probably underdogs and now you go, I suppose, from the Hunter to the Hunter, do we expect to see a different Jack Jumpers or will it be business as usual? It's going to be business as usual. We turned the page a few weeks ago when I sent this text out that we're just moving forward. I think that for us, that underdog tag has been with us a little bit and we felt very much in the last year or so that people were after us, and it will be no different this year that people are after us and, you know, the underdog thing, I think in general just for the state of the years of going by without anything really happening in sports at the level that we ended up doing was more of the tag and, you know, people will say whatever they want to say at the end of the day, but we're going to go back to grit and grind in our process and, as I said before, you know, we're not going to talk about repeating this championship. It's a dead deal for us. We're not going to reflect very much on that. We're just going to repeat our work ethic showing up to do your job and then to taking care of our process and getting these other guys on board and just going back through it again. I don't think there's any other thing other than short of doing the work and we'll do the work. Let's talk about Jack. All NBL's second team, championship player, finals MVP, club MVP, boomers squad, got married, NBA offer. Six months, too. We went to Vegas in the middle of all that and put a couple million down and called it a day. But you can't script it. You know, it's just an amazing, amazing trajectory of the kid. It's just incredible. A magnate, too. And now we got Magic Dang. That's most likely going to be there, so we have three Olympians coming from this island and Jack's story is still being written and I think magnate is in the same boat. And these guys have just been on an incredible journey and credit to them for the work that they do, but I really, really have to shout out to Mark Radford and Jack Fleming and Jared Weeks and Ryan Carroll and Harrison Gillette, our core staff that are working diligently with these guys. And when I say I'm behind the scenes, I'm behind the scenes. These guys are putting in the grunt work to get these guys better. And we're lucky to have really high character guys down here, which is one of the things that I've, you know, really want to strive to try to do. And it's been an amazing journey to watch them. And for me, that's where I get the satisfaction. You know, again, the winning of the championships is nice, but to see Jack McVeigh three years ago to now, you know, like a proud father of just who he's become and what he's become. And that's my reward really at the end of the day. I could care less about winning and losing that might piss some people off, but ultimately for me, it is being a coach and a mentor to them. And I can't be any prior of the organization, but especially with Jack, it's just been an amazing ride. Yeah. Well, I'm sure it is in some way slightly disappointing that he might not be here for a lot of the year, it must be a huge tick for you and your staff and the organization. In terms of now recruiting players to be able to say, not only can we win championships, but we can improve players and we can get players to the next level, whether that's national teams or MBAs, a huge tick for the whole organization and something you can use to recruit or continue to try and encourage players to come down to Tasmania. Yeah. I mean, it's an incredible accomplishment. And again, it goes back to our staff that we put together and the type of players that we're bringing in, and we've seen to find these players that we look very hard for that have that chip on their shoulder that have something to prove. And, you know, Shawnee Mack is in that boat and, you know, we're very proud of Isaac White moving on and didn't have a job and then signs two years of Brisbane or a Mack Kenyan. Those are success stories for us. They might not feel good because they're leaving or they're not part of us anymore, but it is all about, you know, building and developing players and I think the state should be extremely proud of that and continue to have excitement within the state to have young ladies and gentlemen trying to become jack-jumpers. As you said the other day, the championships in the rear view mirror, I'm shipping the trophy is locked away and now we won't see it for a while, but Texan here from David on the Harcourt's open line, he says, "Totally understand Scott looking forward to the season ahead, but could we please ensure hanging the championship banner is special for the fans? That stadium has never had anything hanging there except for cobwebs." What's your response to that, Scott? Yeah, I think that got a little misconstrued. We are definitely hanging a banner and we are definitely celebrating that day. You know, to me it's just unusual step by the league to start to play Melbourne in the game one in Perth and then come back to it, raise the banner against Melbourne again in the back to back when we just play them in the championship. So mine isn't really the respect United and Dean and her team and not try to stick it back in their face when we just got done playing them already to start the season. Now we play them again at home to raise the banner. So we'll have to do it in a very classy way and we would definitely raise that banner. We'll definitely celebrate it is going up there. I'm just more about the big picture of why the league did what they did. I cannot understand it at all. I don't mind playing them in Perth, but then they come back home and playing six days later on our night that we're going to raise the banner is a bizarre deal for me. We just have to be respectful of fact, but listen, we're going to be excited to have that up there and it's a lifetime thing and everyone in the state should be proud and we're going to definitely do it the right way. Yeah, it'll be a huge night. That's for sure. We just go back to Jack and can you explain to our listeners and people who probably aren't as familiar with the NBA set up? What is the difference between a two way contract and him deciding normally and why would a club want to do that? Well go with the back end of that, why the Houston Rockets are doing that is one of the most bizarre things I've seen to be quite honest with you because he's 28 years old, you know, magnized 26. So the two way contracts are usually for 18, 19, 20 year old, 22 year old kids that they're going to try to develop and put them in their G League system. And then if they have any kind of success or luck while they're playing down there, they have the ability to move up and down into the Rockets roster and then back down. In this scenario, this year they added another two way. So they have three two ways. Every team has one of those in the NBA. All of them have three. And there's amount of money that can be guaranteed or all of it being guaranteed. Jack's is not guaranteed. The other two two ways are. And then there's 14 guaranteed contracts on this to Rockets roster. So that's 16 players that have guaranteed money except Jack. So basically he's going in for kind of a tryout with the caveat that he might be able to play as a two way for a bit and get pro rated as he plays. But the danger of that is he can get cut at any moment without any consequences because they don't really owe him any money. So I think for me, it's just an unusual situation in his case. But I also completely understand from his case that everyone's total. No, I'm not going to make Olympic team and makes the Olympic team. I'm never going to make a tryout to play in the NBA. Now I get this offer to come and kind of do this. So he'll get to play in preseason probably and run around. And then from that point, if he turns heads or whatever, he might have a chance. But it's a little bit of a bizarre deal for his age to get that contract in that manner. As opposed to just being someone that they signed to come in to try out for the team. We hope it does work out for him, but if it doesn't, that means he automatically comes back to the Jack. Yeah, he just falls back in our slot. Then we'll have to make the decision with our roster and that's as simple as it gets. So we'll see how it goes and we'll cheer him on and it should be fun watching him. Scott Roth's our guest here on the SC&TASI breakfast on a Friday morning. A question here off the text as well. It says, "If he knew about McVay and Magda potentially going, would you have held an import spot open potentially to recruit another player like them?" Well, I think it's a good question. I think McVay was completely off guard because of his age and where he was. Those two guys, especially McVay, was probably more of a year or a league threat than anything for me. But it's a good question, but I really believe that we had an opportunity early to take care of our roster and not wait. And it is what it is and hindsight's a wonderful thing at that point. We'll see what happens and there's a very good chance to magnetize back with us. We'll see what happens here in the next few days and how things go. But you pivot and you move on. I'm really excited about Craig's ward and where we are with him and bringing those guys back and we'll see what happens. What a good question. Typically, Coach, how long would they take the Houston Rockets to assess someone like Jay? Well, if they made trades or whatever, they might never access them and just cut them. If they do something before a preseason, he never even gets on the court. So he could be just packaged in something to use his money that's not guaranteed to get a player. And then that team that gets him cuts him. So there's so many scenarios that are possible with him. But if he's able to just go to training camp, that'll be in October for most of the part. He'll probably play six or seven exhibition games if he gets on the court. But obviously, their roster players are going to be on the court first to get ready for the season. And then at that point, they'll make the decision as he's worth going down to the G-League and playing on their roster down there for some games. And then as he plays or doesn't play, they'll determine whether or not they want to bring another player in and swap Jack out for Tim Payne or someone else that's somewhere else to come into that slot. And most of the two-way contracts before December, a lot of those guys are getting cut. They're swapping out players constantly and moving on the round and, you know, the NBA is vicious. It's a tough world to be in. Let's talk about something else you're very passionate about. That's the high performance centre that is yet to be built and I loved you quite the other day. I did when you said about the AFL stadium, high performance centre for a team that's still, you know, three or four years away and, yes, we have to be organised for that. There's no doubt about it. But you are on the ground right now, your team, you've won a championship and yet you're still training out of the Kingsborough Sports Centre. Did you say the Latinx master or is that Bigfoot that you said? I don't know, this mythical place that's a box that would take six or eight months to build that's for $15 million. I think it's Bigfoot or Loch Ness we're looking at because I have no answers other than the fact I'm stunned by it to be quite honest for three years of, yeah, building a box. There's no stories on top of it. It's square. You put a court down, you put offices on the side. You know, Tim would be a great ambassador for us to be on our board and try to get some stuff done from that point, but you know, him being a noosa, but he'd be a great board member to try to help us in that area. But at the end of the day for us, it's just, let's go, like I only had a couple more years here and I wanted to get done and then, you know, I have all these reflections of, they're going to build this maybe almost billion dollar stadium. How they building that when they can't build a box? So I don't understand all the politics of what's going on here and it's not for me to understand and understand the state, you know, the hospitals and the teachers and all those things, but this was promised to us three years ago. And to be honest with you, I stopped looking at the diagrams of the building because every three months when I first got here, they show me the diagram of the building and they say, oh, let's change the door here. And I'm like, okay, let's change the door. And then three weeks, three months later, they come back and say, let's put a door over there. I'm like, okay, let's put a door there. I've stopped looking because it doesn't matter anymore. I don't even know what the building looks like other than I know, I just need a basketball court. And you have and Tim has been to our facility and I want to say something very, very clear. The people in Kingbra in Kingston have been unbelievable. The people in Kingbra and Sean and his group has taken care of us for three years. They're amazingly, they have been unbelievable. Their staff and how they've treated us and accommodated us with practice times and courts and joggling things around. They have been amazing. But Tim, and I think you've been inside, we are literally living in a storage shed and we are the champions of Australian basketball and we are in a shed that was chopped up with some plastic walls for our coaches and our players. And the fact that we even got to where we are at this point in the Jack Jumpers organization is miraculous in itself just from a facility standpoint. But for the overall growth of basketball, let's go. Let's start actually putting our words where our words were, our money is where our mouth is and it gets things done. I mean, it doesn't take much to change light balls, paint a court, fix the bathroom. Again, I've been all over the state. Kids are dying to play basketball and this high-performance center is probably the first step of, let's go. And yeah, the lock next monster and Bigfoot, I'll probably see them before I see this building. I think you summed it up perfectly, it's not much for the size of it. We spoke about it earlier in the show, didn't we, Brendan? And the silver dome is the same. The lawn season may be losing basketball because I remember Larry Kesselman talking about the silver dome not being up to standard for MBL three, three and a half years ago. The high-performance center has been spoken about for three, four years now. And like you said, it hasn't been good enough. What basketball has done and the Jack Jumpers have done for our state, for aspiring kids, for people like Jack McVay has been extraordinary and to think that it's all been done with a meeting room next to a daycare center and how the players have been sick every week down there has been an unbelievable effort and you're right, it is time to put pressure on the right people to make sure that this is done and done very, very quickly. I start traveling again today to go up north and I'll be up in Penguin and working my way back to the Trove in Davenport and I'll be in these same buildings that I've been going to and their exact same buildings, they're stuck like in the 1950s and '60s, it's the same place, there's nothing done. And it's just so discouraging for these young kids to be in that and it's just not rocket science. I have a bunch of ideas on how to really speed this things up but at the end of the day someone has to actually put their money where their mouth is and say we're going and we're getting down the road and enough of the games of who's got what and whatever. Scott, do you think did the MBL do enough to help in this space because I know the AFL stuff's moving quickly but you see all the time the AFL itself, the CEO, the big wigs from Melbourne are down here putting pressure on the government to make sure this happens? Has that happened with the MBL? I don't know, that's probably out of my territory to be quite honest with you, that's probably a Christian Finnegan in the front office and how that actually works but we are in a unique situation because we are separated from everyone and we are on an island, it's trying to take care of a lot of people here and for example we'll go to the Blitz and I don't know what goes on down there but we'll go to the Gold Coast and we'll practice three or four times down there and three or four different buildings that are brand new and spectacular, they're everywhere and I don't understand how they get them that quickly and up and running but they're beautiful buildings, kids are playing in them, they're packed and we don't have that here and I just don't know the process and I don't understand the process and it's quite frustrating and yeah I just hope that you know something happens sooner or later but you know just it's taken way too long and I might be a little over critical at some stage or another but it's becoming again kind of something I don't almost don't want to talk about anymore. We're running so late but I'll leave you with this, this is a text on the hardcore type and line. Sir Roth, I know your favorite Tasmanian journalist asked this in the press conference immediately after game five but I will ask again now you've had some time, can the Jackies go back to back at MBL 24, that's from Adam? Well Adam, I don't want to be you know a nay say or anything but from day one when I got here I said we're going to win a championship in the first year and as a professional coach and a professional players we're going to try to win a championship this year, that's what we do and everything else that we do outside of the basketball courts and our culture and what we developed in the state and how our players carry themselves is what we're going to do. You know the basketball gods were good to us last year, we'll see how they act to us this year but we'll do the work and we're going to try to win a championship, that's why you play professional sports, you don't play to just make up numbers. Great to see you, thanks so much coming in. Great to have you back in Tasmania, Scott Roth joining us here in the studio on S.E.N. Tassie breakfast we're going to get to a break, next we're going to talk to New South Wales A.C.T. men's coach, Rano Keith, thanks to Banjo's Hobart, bakes fresh onside every day, visit your local Banjo's bakery today, S.E.N. Tassie breakfast right back after this. ♪ Doesn't mean we'll stop this Friday ♪