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On Friday, the Tasmania Devil's released a short video detailing exactly what these facilities can do for a community. Here's Alistair Nicholson to guide you through it. (MUSIC PLAYS) In elite sporting environments right around the world, the AFL included, state-of-the-art training and administration facilities form a key pillar in any club's success on and off the field. But these often cutting-edge facilities are far more than just the private domain of a small group of elite athletes, coaches and administrators. The doors are open to everyone, as a key community connector, a conduit between the sporting club and the people it represents. Just as the clubs strive to get better, they also strive to lift the community's horizons, creating an environment of aspiration, achievement and a sense of belonging. Examples of the varied and profound community benefits these facilities bring are visible right across the AFL. The Huddle run by North Melbourne at its Arden Street base has done amazing things to improve education and employment outcomes for young people through the power of sport. Since 2010, more than 120,000 young people from more than 160 cultures have directly benefited from the highly inclusive programme, which empowers them to build on their strengths, increase their ability to participate in society and contribute to more socially inclusive communities. Richmond's Corin Gummagee Institute has been in operation since 2011 and is a centre of cultural strength and learning for Indigenous youth. Thousands of young leaders have emerged from their programmes. While at St Kilda's RSCA Park, mental health is a focus at the all-new Danny Frawley Centre, with psychologists and workshops a key offering, while they also provide community access to the gym, swimming pools and other fitness and recovery facilities. More broadly, these venues open their doors to school and community groups playing a key role in health and wellbeing education, providing a chance for young people to connect with their heroes. As the Tasmania Devils look to establish their own training and administration facility, the opportunities for community participation and positive outcomes are limitless. We might borrow ideas, but we'll enhance them, and in a uniquely Tasmanian way, our way, as we strive to become the greatest community sporting club in the world. So there you have it, a really good explainer on just what an administration and training facility could do for Tasmania. The football club's preferred site is on the golf course side of Rosney Parklands, right behind Eastland Shopping Centre. Clarence City Council residents are currently undertaking an electapole on the issue. It was triggered in accordance with the Local Government Act, for a petition included more than a thousand signatures was submitted following a public meeting, voting for the electapole closes on August 8th. Meanwhile, the municipality of Kingborough waits in the wings offering a very good alternate site if the Rosney plans can't proceed. Here's AFL CEO Andrew Dillon and Tasmania Football Club Chair Grant O'Brien speaking on both on their visit to the state a few weeks ago. Rosney is the preferred, but there is another great site as well, and the work's been done on both of them. We said from the beginning that there'd be an option B because, you know, there's a lot that needs to inform the ultimate decision, not the least of which is cost and time. With any building and any planning process, that's why you have those processes and people can put their positions forward and they get dealt with. We'll dedicate a lot of today's show to discussing the proposed administration and training facility here on the Devil's Advocate. Hawthorne Footy Club CEO Ash Klein will be my feature guest. Today, the Hawks are currently building a new home base of their own, a dingley on the outskirts of Melbourne. It'll also be great to ask Ash if he feels there's still a place for the Hawks to play in the state once the Devils enter the competition. In the second half hour of the show, former Brisbane Line and Essen and Bomma Josh Green will join me here in the studio to discuss his career at the highest level, and if you'd like a role with the Football Club moving forward. And as we do each week, at the end of the show, we'll whip around the country to see how our Tasmanian players fed in their respective competitions. Thanks to Battery World. It's all coming up on another huge edition of the Devil's Advocate. We'll get stuck into it right after this. Right across Tasmania on SCM Tassie. This is the Devil's Advocate with Brent Castello. Follow us online at SCM Tassie and text any time. 0437, 555-235. Welcome back to the show time now to speak to my first guest of the show. It is the CEO of the Hawthorne Football Club. Club Ash Klein, welcome to the show. Ash, thanks for your time. Thanks, Brent. Thanks for having me, right? Great to talk to you first of all. Well done on the win on the weekend here in Tasmania, of course, against Fremantle, really tough opposition. But your hawks, they're just going beautifully in 2024. Certainly, as you guys know, we certainly love our timedames. Tassie, now, I think our win lost record down there now is climbing almost 80%. So, another no-buyer on the weekend, but we were pretty fortunate that we came over the chocolates and pretty hard for contest for our great team. And our boys were wrapped with the outcome of the win. And the crowd was pretty excited about it as well, I think. I'll ask you a bit later about your future here in Tasmania, but, yeah, the fortress that's become a Utah stadium is just extraordinary, isn't it? Yeah, it's amazing. It's, we've been now 24 years there and I think it's a win-loss ratio, as they're just under, or just there about 80%. We're having some good teams and good battles there. This year, I think the first of the games have been under 10 points in terms of the outcome. So, we love it. The boys are really familiar with the ground down there. They love the, obviously, the crowd and just getting there in 24 hours, or, but it's easy to be able to pry up settling in, going for the coffee for the morning and Lonnie and then going to play the game. Yeah, fantastic. Now, the main reason we've got you on today is to have a chat about high performance centres, because it's such a big topic here in Tasmania at the moment. First of all, before I ask you about Dingley, in your words, what is a high performance centre? I think it's actually a bit of everything. It's an opportunity, you know, there's 18 clubs. We're all trying to get the 1% on the field. We're also trying to get the 1% off the field, as well, in terms of it. A tangible outcome that can better the other clubs. So, from a performance point of view, it's giving our athletes both our men's and our women's programs, but then also our coaching staff, and our staff, the best availability, whether it be the GM, the recovery areas, the overalls, as I said, the admin facilities. So, that's the general gist of it. But also, it's got to be a bit broader than that. It's got to be a place where your members and your fans are excited to be part of, to come down, to engage with it, and then furthermore, the broader community as well. So, yeah, we've been really fortunate. We're coming up to, this will be our third home, in a sense, we've had Glenn Ferris Oval, that was certainly great for the East and suburbs area, and the heartland of goalfall on where we were founded, then all of a sudden, the move out to Waverly, that's been, you know, that growing into what it has become today. You know, there's housing all through the estate here, there's shops, there's community engagement, and then we're trying to do the same out at Dingley. It'll be somewhat different in bringing the community and the engagement for our members and their fans to be part of it as well. - Yeah, so take us into the tent, if you can. What's Dingley going to look like? I think you bought the piece of land back in 2016, so planning since then, and just give us an update on how it might look. - Yeah, it can be a bit of a slow boom, but I think sometimes if you gather with ace with these type of things, you can certainly make some mistakes. So, it's certainly been a long time of the making, certainly a vision of the previous board and regime, and great future for foresight, I guess, knowing that Waverly Parky and Bunnel Bagueras has been a major facility. We've been able to adapt it to what it's been today, including the addition of our AFLW team, but as I mentioned before, it is landlocked. We've got all the housing and estates around it. We can't get another over here. Our training facility within the club and the admin side of things has probably been our prone. So what Dingley provides is a huge amount of growth and expansion. Now, our program there, we're going to be doing it in different stages. The stage one is the Harris eTap elite training facility there. So it's going to be perfect for our men's and women's program. It's our staff, as I mentioned, brand new area for them to run a market and have the best of the facilities from an admin perspective. We're going to have an indoor training facility there about 50 metres, so the players can warm up inside. And then a couple of oval. So we've got the main men's oval, which is MCG sized. And then we've got AFLW oval, which is also part of community offering that we'll have as well. Attached to that oval is also an AFLW community grandstand, for Brilliant as well. So there's going to be everything there for not only the players. I said the staff and the coaches, but the broader community and that members advance. Fantastic. As you said, it's the 1% of this, isn't it? You just need to keep up with the rest of the competition who are building places like this as well, because you'll just fall off the pace, if you don't. Yeah, I think it was only about 10 years ago where all hall was probably number one. If it wasn't number one, it was in the top three of the training facilities within the competition. And then everyone gets better opportunities or expansion within their own area. And as I said, you've got to be very mindful, basically as much as anything else. It's obviously a member-owned club. And so it's really important to make sure that you do things properly. But the other part too is you want to make sure that you do those 1% as you hear about the terminology on the field, but certainly the same thing off the field. So we're probably now probably languishing in the bottom couple of our training facilities after I said being number one, 10 years ago. And when you see the likes of what West Coast Eagles, Brisbane Lions and other clubs have done over the last few years, this is again the foresight with our previous board and benefactors that have seen that back in 2016, 2017 were actually extended before. The land was quite in time, but the foresight was done five to 10 years prior to that. A few challenges we're having to navigate through here with our high-performance centre. At the moment of you had similar issues over in Melbourne trying to get things done out at Dingley? I think really from what we did very start is we really made sure that you engaged the community out there. So you certainly keep our first and foremost, our members and our fans in port. Keep them updated with where we're at. We do that even now. We do that almost weekly, if it's not a weekly basis, a fortnightly basis. Giving them updates, giving them an overview from President and myself. But also the optics of it as well, the build now is progressing really quickly since turning side in February. So that update and that constant communication to members is advanced and important. But it also is a global community as well. So again, for several years, the management team in particular and our board have been very cognizant to make sure that at the local council there, which is a different council to what we don't hear right now at 100g. It really kept well-informed across all the detail. And when you see other projects around the area probably not doing the same, you really get that positive impact back from the global community instead of making sure they're informed and updated. And he sort of touched on this a little bit earlier, but I think a lot of people see these big buildings and grounds with clubs, names and logos sort of plastered on them and feel like they're off limits to the public. So just bring us some information on what this can actually do for people in the community. Yeah, again, you've probably seen over the journey of the Fort Gorns progression of the poem. So Glen Ferry, although it was never owned by the club, which is something that some people will even members and fans don't fully across. It's always been owned by the council there, but that was always a haven for people to come down and be part of it, join in, use the oval, shared facilities there. The same has been the same here with Waverly Park too, so the opportunity to use oval community groups, kids, families are always using it every other time when the players aren't on it. So it's not locked off. It doesn't have fencing around it. They can come down the only thing they can't do is walk their dogs or their cats on the oval. But it's always been a community-based offering, not just of the book I'm offering. And then beyond that, I said here, we've got shots, cafes, our merchandise shop, we've got our museums to come to. And so when we're dealing, we feel exactly the same. We want it to be part of not only an opportunity for the members and fans to come down just like they do with a bunch of the core of it, but also the local community too. So, as I mentioned before, there's the community pavilion that's going to have educational offerings, classroom offerings and a function centre. The local ovals there said their football grounds are hard to come by nationally, but particularly in Victoria, so our ovals are going to be accessible to the local community. The city of Kingston, we've already got a partnership with them there, and there's already a set amount of use as a minimum that we're providing back to the community to accommodate that. That's our stage one, our stage two will be the opportunity potentially for basketball courts, so a high ball facility, an allied health offering as well. And again, potentially more ovals. It's a pretty big block of land there, so we're really engaged about the name of the centre is the Candy Community Centre. For that reason, obviously, our esteemed former coach, John Candy, but on the other parties, it's a connection to the broader community, both for our members and fans and also the greater city of Kingston area. Ash clients, my guest here on the Devil's Advocate this afternoon, Ash is the CEO of the Hawthorne Footy Club, Ash. Obviously, the Devil's coming into the competition in 2028, how is you and the rest of the clubs feeling about it? Yeah, we've been really supportive. I've been at the club now for six years, and we've been nothing but supportive of the team. We've loved our time in Tassie. We'll continue to love our time in Tassie for as long as that lasts. This is 24 years this year and celebrating 25 next year, but we've worked really closely with the advisory board there, with the Devil's, and we've been supporting from the get-goes as to what the team brings. No doubt to the community, but to the greater AFL competitions as well. Such a big crowd in Launceston on the weekend, you could be forgiven for not pulling one against an interstate side like Fremantle and a lot of local footy on, so clearly there's so much support for Hawthorne here in Tasmania. What does your future look like here beyond 2028? Yeah, we're not exactly sure at this point in time, but we're certainly having our open mind with it and having really good open conversations with the government and the City of Launceston down there. The partnership hasn't just been with the state government, it's certainly been with the City of Launceston, the new CEO there, Sam. We caught up with him on the weekend with the mayor, whether it's this regime, whether it's previous regime, there's always been this constant connection and feeling of positivity between both partners and we know the cafes love it, we know the restaurants love it. We hope and we aim to have some type of connection with Tasmania and Launceston in particular in the future. What that looks like now is probably too early for us to tell, but we've got 8,000 plus members there and we want to serve them as we have for the last 24 years. I'd just say conversations still ongoing, so it is hard to talk about, but obviously the Tasmanian government put in a significant amount of money to make this happen, that'll be redirected to our footy club. Is there a way around it for the Hawthorne footy club to come down here without the government support, do you think? Yeah, then we'll be part of the conversations. We've had some infancy in those conversations right now, but we don't know what that may look like except for what we know the next couple of years. Staying there, playing out four games, we know our footy department love it down there and what it looks like thereafter, we'll continue to explore that and have conversations, but we'll be pretty open minded. We've obviously got 80,000 plus members to consider. We have games in Melbourne, we've obviously got the games down there and Tazzy would build a fortress down there, so we'll consider that. But obviously the team coming in a little bit will change the landscape a little bit, but we certainly came to have some type of involvement, whatever that may look like in the future. Hawks home game against Tazzy is the way to move you pretty cool, wouldn't it? Certainly be one thing that's been thrown around. So, who knows who knows what's going to land at this stage? I guess you have really built your base in Launceston, but Corey Point Stadium will need extra content as well. Is that in the back of your mind that all the potentially could play even a game out of there? As I say, those are questions you probably can't answer right now, but is that something worth considering as well? Yeah, as I said, all that's going to be in consideration and discussion. There's been some great left field ideas, and there's also been some consistent conversations we've had over a period of time. That stadium gets built, it's going to be a pretty classy and amazing stadium, and as you said, it's a little bit like what's over at Optus Stadium in Perth. I've got the 11 Eagles games, the level of the three-mountal games, but I know they're always still looking for content. So, with these great stadiums, it certainly would be worth the conversations with everyone to explore more content there. And you touch on it a little bit, the partnership you've had for nearly 25 years now, it's so special, isn't it? And you just seem to have done it really well. North Melbourne may not have captured the imagination of Hobartians like Hawthorne's captured, Launceston people. I know you've got members across the state, but what have you done so well? Do you think to really embed yourself here in Tasmania? Yeah, I think it's credit to the people where the vision back in the day, and I'd start off with, I think, one game 24 years ago into two games, and then the opportunities to have the four games down there. But it wasn't about, I think clubs get it wrong, sport organisations get it wrong, where they just see the cash and fly and fly and then don't build the opportunities around it. And so we've been very cognizant and very focused on building community programs. They don't just cover, like you said, in the blood system or the nearby suburbs and area, but all the way through the state. And then furthermore, our connection with local foodie clubs down there as well, into schools. We do probably more programs down there, or equal amount of programs we do down there from across schools and the clubs community clubs that we do in Melbourne, per capita or such. David Cox has been there now for about eight years, done an amazing job down there, very community minded, always going out to schools, whether it's the connection with the Premier's Reading Challenge or other community programs we've had down there, the schools cup. Just built to make sure that we have an all year round holistic offering down there. It's not just about the games, the games are always likely to be on the cake for us. And certainly from a performance point of view it is, but we want to make sure that all thought is always being spoken about, particularly positively down there. And the only way to do that is to do it all year round in the community and the schools. Last one before I let you go, Ash, I want to ask you about your development coach at Hawthorne and Boxhill Coach Zane Littlejohn. He's doing a wonderful job, we love him here in Tasmania, we'd love to see him get a coaching gig in his own right one day, but you must love having him on your team. Zane's an absolute ripper, I'd say first and foremost, he's just an awesome human being, he's always put to others before himself. He's obviously got the players at heart, but also brought a club at heart and he's really got two clubs all over Tandy and Hand. You know, he gives someone in the summary guard who's looking out for our Boxhill program and coaching them and wanting the readings to always stack up it. He knows that the connection, the partnership and the alignment with Boxhill and all of his powermen has been for a long period of time. And that's about giving you opportunities for our players that are coming back from injury or trying to rack up performance themselves from our AFL-Wisted program in Boxhill. So balancing that can be really difficult, but he just does it so fantastically. Well, I think testament to that was when he was named State Coach for Gather Around this year and did a great job there, it was a pretty tough game and they came pretty close. But, yeah, we highly regard Zane, he's crossed out of development programs as well here at the Hawks. I don't know how he actually fits the ball, because he's got the Boxhill job, which is often after hours, and then he's got his walks job during the day. So, pilot recommend him, he's a ribbing bloke. He's got obviously coach the lawn system back in the day as well through the Brisbane Lions development programs, and then he certainly ends up onto a bigger pilot down the track as well. Well said, Ash, thank you so much for giving up your Tom, I know you're a busy man, and we really appreciate giving up your Tom for us here on The Devil's Advocate to talk specifically about the high performance center and also Hawthorn's future here in Tasmania. Well done on the season today, and thanks for joining us here on The Devil's Advocate. Thanks Brad, not just like to say, I think the Tezi Devil's team are doing a great job. You can't help but get behind them in terms of the Guernsey, the name, how they've engaged. But obviously the stadium, we've just taken up a lot of their time at the moment, that training facilities is so impactful for the community, and the ridges will be no doubt it's forward across all when it comes. All the best, and thanks for having me on. Ash Klein joining us here on The Devil's Advocate, the CEO of the Hawthorn Footy Club, we really appreciate his time. We're off to a break coming back on the other side of it to talk to former Brisbane Lion and Essen and Bomber Josh Green here on The Devil's Advocate. Right across Tasmania on SCM Tassie, this is The Devil's Advocate with Brent Castella. Follow us online at SCM Tassie and text any time, 0 4 3 7, double 5 2 5 3 5. I'm joined by my next guest in the studio now, it is former Brisbane Lion and Essen and Bomber Josh Green. G'day Greeny, welcome to the show. Thanks Brent, thanks for having me. Nice to see you mate. How's life back here in Tassie, you've been back for a little while now from AFL duties, you loving being back home? Yeah, it's great. I really sort of missed it a while as a way and just that slower lifestyle and being back around family and friends and playing back at Clarence now. It's really good and got a young family so just enjoying life which is great. Let's go right back to the start. Your love affair with Footy, where did that begin? It started all the way out at Sorel actually, raised in Richmond and they didn't have a junior program so just worked my way through Sorel and ended up in their development programs and mariners and then worked my way over to Clarence to take a bit more serious under Brent and Bolton. And then yeah, it was lucky enough to head off to Brisbane from there so moved around a little bit but I guess it all sort of started out Sorel in the junior program. At that age did you feel like you were better than everyone else or you had a bit more ability? We actually had a really good team. We ended up with I think four or five in the state team so I didn't think I was better than anyone but I definitely had aspirations to go further with it and I definitely worked really hard at my game and looked to improve and eventually did pay off which was great. And when did you start to believe that you could get to the highest level I suppose? It's probably when I started playing senior footy to be honest. For Clarence I think I was 15 when Brent and Bolton sort of gave me the nod to play and even I was a bit daunting at the time and I hurt myself I started feeling really comfortable playing against grown men. Some guys who played VFL for a numerous years so I guess from that age I sort of felt comfortable and maybe that it could go further than that. And you played that 2010 flag too for memory with Clarence? I was actually lucky to play in '09 and '10 to the last flag that Clarence played in so it's been a bit of a period between that sort of motivation to head back. I think it was a huge year when another one before it all closes up at the end of the year. Absolutely, you won't get to that a little later about the roost but pick 32, 2010 draft of the lines as you said. Did you feel like they were the team that were going to pick you or you had no idea at that point? Yeah it's a tough one. I spoke to them a little bit but they didn't really give too much away. They didn't say like we're going to definitely take you. In the morning of the draft and said if you're there and pick 40 or something we'll take you. So that was nice to know that I was probably going to go. I mean things can change as we know in the draft but a bit of a shock to go to Brisbane. I knew some players up there which was nice and it was a pretty stressful day for me and the family but it turned out pretty good. And I was really happy to go up there a great environment where there's good and I really enjoyed my six years up there. It's hard work to get drafted but the hard work really begins when you arrive. Was it a shock just how tough it was to be in AFL football in those early days? Oh yeah it was eye opening. I kind of walked in and first two people I ran into. The training was fair and brownie. So that was a bit of a shock in itself. It took me some time to really get used to the training with those guys. I'm a black look power. Michael Voss is the coach. So it took some time to get used to it and sort of feel like I belong there and within a few years I felt like I did and sort of rolled on from there. I think you've finished twice as the club's leading goal kicker which was also many other major highlights. I guess I was six years up in Brisbane. We were a bit lean there while I was up there. I think it's probably just the friendships. I've got some really good mates that are still playing currently and some mates that have finished up as well. Who are they? I've got Ryan Lester. He's still playing. Jeez he just keeps going on doesn't he? And then there's some xpliers and we've actually got a trip coming up at the end of the year that we're going to all catch up which will be great. Awesome. Then you went to Essenet of course. Tell us about that little period. How tough was that little transition from Brisbane to the bombers? It was really tough. I actually had a contract offer on the table from Brisbane. There was a bit of a fall out there and my parents were actually living in Melbourne at time and it sort of just worked out. So I had some problems with my feet and I thought it was probably just time for a fresh start. I was a bit burnt out out there. In hindsight I wish maybe I should have stayed and worked through it but it was nice to move down to Essenet and experience a big club, big crowds and be back around my family again who mean the world to me. So I didn't end as well as you'd hope with Brisbane. Yeah it was an ideal. Yeah I mean those sorts of things happen and contracts fall out and we just decided to sort of depart ways from there and you know hindsight's a wonderful thing but I was lucky enough to play there for six years and still got some good friends up there so I try and watch them and support them as much as I can. And on the flip side you go to one of the biggest clubs in the land, you're playing on Anzac Day and things like that so that again would have been another big eye opener for you I suppose. Yeah it was a massive change in terms of how big the club was, supporter base, expectations and so on. I guess everyone wants success but they just demanded it and I didn't understand how big Essen was until I got there and then you're playing in big games. And Anzac Day played in twice, dream time. I think we averaged around 50,000 a game so a bit of a jump up from around 20,000 at the gabber. Absolutely and your time there was enjoyable wasn't? Yeah I actually really enjoyed it. Unfortunately my feet gave in at the end and I just couldn't get back out in the park and sort of where the club was going they had enough sort of small forwards and I was sort of battling through a fair bit of pain with my feet and I just asked one day what the guy was with my contract and I said yeah look we're looking to bring someone else in and that's just out ruthless it is. I did struggle with it for a while but I understood you know it's a business and my body was starting to sort of let me down and yeah I ended up having to have injections before every game for about 12 weeks and I knew that wasn't a good sign that my body was reacting well to Plano Phil. One thing you've been quite open about since you left in the system is the struggles you went through, you mentioned your foot injury is there, diagnosed with severe anxiety. I believe you know received some pretty bad online abuse at times. How tough was all that to deal with? It's tough I was kind of like taking everything in and I'm in a really good place now and looking back it was pretty tough. Everyone goes through in the AFL so I'm not like crying poor here but it was tough. It's a tough environment and I think it's got even worse that's sort of the pressure and online abuse to the players you know you've got all the social media now they can't go out and do anything and just the pressure from supporters online. It's just some of the stuff I see now it's just terrible. So I really feel for players I know they get paid well and so on and so forth but no one really deserves that kind of treatment in any workplace. Absolutely absolutely well said Josh Greens my guest here on the devil's advocate mentioned about moving back here to Tasmania, brand your family and friends that must have been the best medicine after going through what you did. It was quite tough that period but I just sort of be good to move home and be around family and friends and I've been away for nine years and I guess the opportunity popped up to come back to Clarence and play for the club that I really do love and had success that and kind of struggled again sort of for a little bit and I thought I needed to go back to Lindisfarne just to find that enjoyment with one of my best mates who we made a bit of a pact to that I'd play with him before we all sort of finished and that was one of the best moves I've ever made was to go back to Lindisfarne because then I found that enjoyment again and then the opportunity popped up to go back to Clarence for the last year or the two so and unfortunately injured at the moment but you've been in some good form you must be dying to get back out there. Yeah it definitely was hard to watch on the weekend we kind of probably took a step backwards which is unfortunate but some young guys got some opportunities there's always a silver lining to those kinds of games. What about Tasmania coming into the AFL as a proud Tasmania you must be absolutely over the moon to see the map there it's right in front of you right now as we sit here it's going to be pretty exciting isn't it. I'm obviously probably playing which is unfortunate I would love to have been in my time when I was playing all definitely would have come home for sure I reckon to pull on the map you know I got to do it as a mariner back in the day and yeah it means so much to me personally because I've represented them before but definitely excited for the next group of young boys and girls that are coming through the opportunities they have in the future and passionate everyone is in the support that's behind it already is fantastic. Yeah you must be not kicking yourself because you've had a great career obviously and a lot of players you grew up with had good AFL careers but to see what the young kids will have now moving forward it must be pretty jealous. Oh yeah definitely I am jealous and it's every kid's dream you know the opportunity to get drafted but then let alone maybe stay in your home state and play in front of your family friends every second week. That's just fantastic and but I just can't wait to watch them and support them and maybe be involved at some stage. Last one before I let you go would you like a role with the club moving forward some description. Oh if there's something there I've got a real passion around development and I've got my own sort of coaching business on the side that I do one on one coaching so I've just got a real passion for helping people you know whether it's football life whatever it is and passing on the things that I learned during my career and if there's a role around development or something like that that'd be great. Great to see you doing so well mate and great to have you back here in Tasmania thanks for your time on the Devil's Advocate and good luck to you and the rules moving forward for the rest of the TSL season. Thanks Prince thanks for having me. Josh Green joining me in the studio my special guest on the Devil's Advocate here today we're off to our final break of the show coming back to whip around the country next to see how our TASI players fed across Australia over the weekend. Thanks to Bachelorette here on the Devil's Advocate. Now it's time for a TASI footy update on the Devil's Advocate. It is indeed and before we get to see how our players went over the weekend some breaking news today the TASI Senior Talent Academy is launching next year as many as five or six rep games for senior Tasmanian men and women will take place in 2025. It's with the focus of having players ready for when the VFL and VFLW teams start in 2026. With no TSL there'll be brand new regional representative series that will take place for men and women where each regional play each other once across three separate weeks. AFL Tasmania is also hoping to bolster umpiring pathways to ensure more Tasmanians are officiating in the AFL and AFLW. Now let's have a look at some of our Tasmanian players and how they went across the country over the weekend. Thanks to Battery World Book of Free battery check at Battery World Hobart. In the AFL, Lonnie's Colby McCircher was one of North Melbourne's best in defeat. A second overall pick finished with 25 disposals, 7 marks and 3 intercept possessions. North Lonnie's Toby Dan Kervis was arguably the Tigers best player in their loss to the Giants. The Richmond skipper lead from the front with 22 disposals, 36 hit outs, 5 clearances, 4 tackles, 4 marks and 5 intercept possessions. Fellow North Launceston product Ryan Mantzel played one of his best games of the season. The half forward finish with 10 disposals, 6 marks, 4 tackles, 4 inside 50s and 2 goals. Clarence's Sam Banks played his first full game at AFL level since round 9 after being the tactical sub in the past two matches. The third year Tiger had a season high, 16 disposals to go along with his 3 marks, 2 clearances and 5 score involvements. North Launceston's Riley Sanders was sold in the Bulldogs big win over the Blues. Last year's number 6 pick finished with 13 disposals, 4 clearances, 5 tackles and 3 score involvements. In VFL and AFLW, Lord of Wales Hugh Greenwood was one of the ruse best in their thrilling 5 point win over the swans. The big inside mid finish with 21 disposals, 13 of those contested, 6 clearances and 12 tackles. Bernie and North Launceston's Heath Ollington made his VFL debut in Williamstown's win over Sandringham. The mid forward finish with 14 disposals, 4 tackles, 4 inside 50s and a goal. Devon Porton-Glennorky's Ben Brown played his first game in 5 weeks in case his victory over Essendon. The Premiership D finished with 13 disposals, 7 marks, 5 score involvements and a goal. North Hobart's Jim Menzi pushed his case for return to the bomber's senior side. The small Ford had an equal high, game high, 3 goals to go along with his 12 disposals, 3 clearances and 8 score involvements. Glennorky's Sarah Skinner and the Western Bulldogs are through to the VFLW grand final. After taking down Williamstown by 44 points, the former swan was one of her side's best, finishing with an equal game high, 18 disposals, 5 clearances, 4 tackles, 5 marks and 5 inside 50s. The dogs will now take on the ruse in this week's decider. And in the Sanful North onceston's Bayon and Low started North Hobart's big win over Adelaide. The mid forward finish with 27 disposals, 8 clearances, 5 marks, 8 inside 50s, 5 tackles and a game high, 3 goals. Glennorky's Aiden Grace was pivotal in Central District's nail-biting 6 point win over West Adelaide. The dangerous forward kick to game high, 3 goals to go along with his 10 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles. And finally, congratulations to the 6 Tasmanians who were part of the Allies' 15 point win over Queensland at the under 18 girls' national championships. Sophie Strong was good off half back with 17 disposals and 7 tackles. Mackenzie Williams was influential in the middle with 21 disposals and Ava Reed kicked a team high, 2 goals. That's all thanks to Bachelorette is your car. Battery ready for winter, book your free check with Battery World Hobart today. And that of course brings us to the end of the Devil's Advocate for another week. It's been a big show, Ash Klein and Josh Green my guess. We'll do it all again next Monday. Until then, have a great week. (dramatic music)
