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It was another big edition of The Devil's Advocate with Brent. He talked with Tasmania's two representative coaches Aaron Cornelius and Deb Reynolds after Saturday's state games against Queensland. He also discussed what representative footy means to Tasmania and looked at how our Tassie players went around the country. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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24 Jun 2024
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It was another big edition of The Devil's Advocate with Brent. He talked with Tasmania's two representative coaches Aaron Cornelius and Deb Reynolds after Saturday's state games against Queensland.

He also discussed what representative footy means to Tasmania and looked at how our Tassie players went around the country.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's awesome Sign up now at youtube.com slash BS device and content restrictions apply local and national games on YouTube TV And if I'll Sunday ticket for out-of-market games excludes digital only games right across Tasmania on SCM Tassie this is the devil's advocate with Brent Castello follow us online at SCM Tassie and Tex any time oh four three seven double five two five three five Representative footy returned on the weekend with Tasmania's men's team to feed in Queensland for the second year in a row It's over a hundred years since we first played the morons with Saturday's edition marking the 29th time Both states have gone head-to-head in the men's format and wasn't it brilliant to see our best of the best come together TSL stars such as Andrew Phillips Brad Cox Goodyear Jack Tomkinson Sam Sigans and Jack Avent playing alongside each other was just Glorious to watch the NWFL's Bailey Bogue didn't look at a place despite being just one of two players from outside the state league young guns Harry Bales and Oscar van Dam were outstanding both thriving on the big stage and Water 12 months for Kieran level adding a law for you best on ground to his premiership and Bulldog medals the map ran out winners by 46 points it was a lot tougher for our women's team with Tasmania going down to Queensland earlier in the day Kelsey Hill grace white Molly Mitchell and Madison done were named in our best players in the 58 point loss The good news is our ladies won't have to wait too long to make amends with our men's and women's sides to play matches against Sydney Canberra combined teams at Utah Stadium next month Rep footy is just an outstanding initiative and my mail is even more might take place if our VFL teams don't begin next year or Saturday might have provided mixed results for us I'll never get tired of seeing our champions pulling on the famous map Particularly it's such an exciting time for Tasmanian football. Welcome to episode eight of the devil's advocate Here I think we all get the hair on the back of our next standing up when we see the map out on the field But our dominant win in the men's match on Saturday also has raised some questions on X following the game Tasmanian footy legend Robert Shaw posed an interesting question He said unqualified. I'm not on deck But with 98% of the team from AFL Tasmania's state league in such a great win against the state They throw dollars at why the change to regions is my question Byron Howard another great of Tasmanian football agreed saying it should be a state league until the devil's are good to go Ridiculous decision going regional in 2025 Clinton read also shared his thoughts saying correct there does need to be a strong statewide second-tier competition They are that close to having the perfect pathway, but unfortunately one half of the state will not be involved One person who does have a strong opinion on the new way forward for footy and the new regional model is former Tasmanian premier Peter Guttwin Who has ties to the Scot style football club? He took aim at North Launceston on Saturdays in Tazzy with flash and Jeevesy over the weekend over its concerns about joining the NTFA To be frank. Um, how arrogant It is to say Uh, the competition, um, we don't like, um, we don't think it'll be in our club's best interest. So Uh, we're just going to go into recess. I was just staggered. Absolutely staggered. It's disrespectful to Everybody involved in football in northern Tasmania and that club should have a good look at itself And as I said on um on Tuesday and I'll say it again Don't worry North Launceston. We are coming for you. Of course is our former premier and despite us all heading in the one direction when it comes to our AFL team There's obviously still plenty of politics at play when it comes to everything underpinning it In fact, our current premier Jeremy Rockliffe put up a congratulatory facebook post to our victorious men's team on saturday night Saying the map does it again North Launceston president Thane Brady responded by saying how dare you premiere celebrate this when you are ultimately Responsible for allowing the competition that has developed these players to be bulldozed It's not too late to fix this train smash if you really cared What do you think let us know your thoughts on the new structure for Tasmanian footy? And we'll get to it on next week's show send us a text on our open line 37 52535 or hit us up on all the major social media platforms at scn tazzy We've got a massive addition of the devil's advocate on the way for you today later in the show We'll whip around the country to see how our Tasmanian players fared in their respective competitions Thanks to battery world, but our major focus will be on saturday's representative matches I'll be joined by both of our Tasmanian coaches Aaron Cornelius and Deb Reynolds. That's all the head for you over the next hour here on the devil's advocate Welcome back. It's time to talk to my first guest on the show this morning It's the coach of the victorious Tasmanian side that defeated Queensland on saturday up on the gold coast Aaron Cornelius Welcome to the devil's advocate Thanks for having me Brent really excited Lovely to talk to you off the back of that big win. We'll get to that shortly But I want to start with you and a bit about your footy journey first of all Where did your love of footy begin because I remember you as a junior basketball player as well So was it footy for you from day one? Yeah, love love a footy came from me back with going to the football and watching my old man play He played for in all folk The old TFL and then he went out and played some old scholars footy for friends and new town So I was along for the journey there. So I reckon my football passion grew in in those times, but yeah played a lot of basketball as a junior as well and as we all know here in tazzy when you Able to do a few sports you usually bump into the same sort of people. So um, yeah, but footy for me started an early age and then it continues on Coming through the ranks with glen orky in the marinars. Did you believe you were good enough to play in the AFL? Oh, not necessarily there was a probably a belief, but I had something I really desperately wanted to do It's you know, it was a dream of mine from a very young age to run out Back in those days was running out for st. Kilda and you know play alongside some of my heroes. So yeah, it was uh Look, it was just a great opportunity for me to play senior footy at a young age and then represent Tasmania Which was you know something that was very close to my heart and still is to this day To be able to run out in the map and all the tradition that comes with it So yeah, look it was it was very I was very lucky with my junior career and the exposure that I got Um, and you know look back on that as something to be very proud of What are your memories of draft day in 2008? Did you know you were a good chance of getting getting picked up and did you know you're off to the lines or was that a complete surprise? Uh, look it was was interesting with draft out. I didn't have the best draft camp or I struggled a little bit at draft camp but uh the year before it had a really good year and Made the old Australian side in the in the underage and had a really accountable and sort of done everything that I could do Uh to that point so i'm playing the premiership with glonokey and obviously it was captaining Um, you know Been being captain of the state and footy and training with the devils the very first side of the time So there was a lot of stuff that I'd done and then the next year I probably didn't work as hard as I should have done and um, unfortunately Glue out a bit the drafts and didn't go to late in the 50s and, uh, look it was it was quite stressful Brent It's hard to sit there and watch a lot of other people get drafted for you and start to start to have a lot of self-doubt and doubt that that's actually going to happen and then Um, yeah, Brisbane read out my name and and sort of uh, yeah the story tells itself after that Had they shown much interest in you in the lead up to the draft or or not? Uh, well, I'd that draft camp. I'd spoke to pretty much every club. I was lucky to do that I had a brief chat to Brisbane after the training session that was held and um, yeah Gabby allen and and a few other their recruiters sat me down and asked the questions that they usually do and go through go through a few processes But um, no, I hadn't had much communication with Brisbane, but I had had michael bosses a coach in the old Australian program Um, so yeah, I guess that uh, we brought a little bit of a relationship from there and Yeah, he saw my name and they called it out Yeah, and of course, yeah coach bought him at the lines in the long run and and you got to play along Saw the likes of Jonathan Brown and Simon black it must have been a pretty awesome time over your life Yeah, it was it's the best job that I've ever had that's for sure Um, yeah, it was just an amazing experience to be a part of I got to travel overseas and Obviously all around the country playing football and getting paid to do it Um, you know, that's just a huge bonus because it's obviously something that I loved and loved doing So yeah, the the guys that you run around with the jammy charmans and the blacks and Browns brad shores, um, look power mocha mocha mocha luschatelli all these guys Timmy, not even a lot of premiership players in the side that we're still playing at the time Um, yeah, exciting to learn off those guys and and uh, where the where the lines call us After being delisted you're you're returned to glenalki. You're absolutely flying of course And then in 2014 you suffered that uh, really horrific knee injury that unfortunately ended you playing career Tell us about how tough that experience has been for you when the physical and and mental challenge is more important You've had to overcome to be where you are today Yeah, look it was I chose to come home. I wasn't really enjoying Um, you know, 40 as much as I should have been in in the last year britsman And uh, you know, I'd spoke to a lot of clubs stately clubs around the country about maybe going and um, you know Being part of their programs, but in the end I chose to come home and um, you know I was probably a little bit of lifestyle type thing and be close to the family and glenalki gave me a An amazing opportunity to be playing coach. So that was that was really good and the guys were going quite well We finished fifth that year and um, you know, there's sort of the the building building blocks were there for what what was to come but unfortunately brent. Yeah, I had the injury and um 27 surgeries and and trying to coach a footy side and starting a young family and No being there for for those guys as well was quite a challenge. I struggled with it a lot I sort of just pushed it all down at the start and kept moving forward and and I struggled with it Um, a fair few years later as far as the mental pole that it took on me I didn't realize at the time, but I still miss playing footy. I I said to a couple of the guys big mitcha heels and Josh Arnold who were up there on the weekend helped me out I was like a bit of a cat in the hot tin roof Before the game really wanted to run out the guys were uh, up and about and the map map what he was involved So, yeah, it's it's still hard to uh to accept probably the fact that I'll never play again But um, yeah, I'm I sort of made a little bit more pace with it than I had certainly early days And how are you today? I mean, I know you started playing some basketball recently socially and you can do it a little bit more than you used to be able to do with the injury Yeah, look. Well, they were going to amputate my leg. Not many people sort of know that that uh, my mother and My partner at time, Katie, they had to sign a form for amputation. So on the night of the accident the um artery behind my knee had split or snapped and the bottom half of my leg was filling up and Um, when that happens, you can sort of have um, you know, a lot of issues So it was basically when he had to take his leg off or you know, he could he could be in some really trouble serious trouble Um, but then you know the surgeon managed to get the pulse Back to my foot and and sort of had to recover from there. So I come out and you know Rods and pins and wheelchair and um, you know, I was I was sort of lucky to walk had to learn how to walk again as I had a parallelized foot I had to go to Melbourne to Have some surgery around that. So yeah, I I just have recently just played a little bit of basketball. It was the first competitive game of sport I'd played in 10 years and um, yeah, no the knee struggles a fair bit with the cold weather It was nice to be on the goal coast on the weekend and be in the warmer weather But yeah, look, it's going to be an ongoing thing Brent for me forever It's I have hard time sometimes putting on the socks and um, a lot of pain In the knee at times, but now that's just part parcel of it and I've been able to get back in the gym and Um, as you say, I played a little bit of basketball, which has helped me mentally a lot Uh, and also physically Aaron Cornelis is my guest here on the devil's advocate two years after that ashy coach plenogie to a premiership against the uh first iteration of that north fauncest and dynasty what do you remember about the day and And the season as a whole because you probably could have won a couple You went pretty well the year before in 2015 as well, didn't you? Yeah, unfortunately missed out Um in 2015, you know, the north fauncest thing were prepared on the day and they played some really good footy And unfortunately beat us in the 2015 grand final, but credit to those guys as we know what they've gone on to do Um, but as far as 16 goes. Yeah, look, I've got a lot of pressure in the end It was um more of a relief That we finally got there the club we got me involved and I don't think that had too many expectations on you know What what that might do they thought that I'd be able to help certainly uh build the group and be a part of something but We never really expected it to uh to have the success that we we did but yeah I felt like it was a big relief in in 2016 to finally get the win And I've got a lot of fond memories of just the joy that the guys got Um, you know, they're now premiership players going all keen now and can take that off some and we were not far away from Not far away from a reunion Which is exciting, but yeah, it was just the you know, north faunceston were a very very good side They're on their home deck and get that win Um and play the way the boys did was uh was quite exciting. So yeah as I say it's a it's a memory A little I'll have forever. It's it's lovely to play in them, but when you coach them Um, you understand all the hard work the people around you put into it The players and the support staff and the volunteers the football club and it's just a little bit more special You got to spend some time coaching with the southport sharks and box heel hawks as well What did you learn from your time with two of the biggest state league clubs in the country? Uh, yeah, we got very lucky to see I thought we we actually won flag in 2018 Um, we beat cine swans in the niffle grand final but The southport sharks is a tremendous football club that they really support their people and it's got a great atmosphere and Um, you know, I really enjoyed my time there. Uh, I learned a lot of massive lapping and steve and daniels Uh about the game and the way it was played Um, and then moving into box heel and you know, being able to do it two days a week at hawthorn as well Very exposed to that program was Yeah, it was just a massive eye opener as to how they go about it and see a different AFL club Uh, operate was was quite enjoyable and then to sit alongside sam mitrel Uh in his year of coaching at box heel before going into the AFL was another eye open And opportunity to learn so yeah, I learned a lot You know, they really prepared sam well in that year and they gave them a lot of resources and you know, the benefit was that i was sitting there right next to him Um, you know, learning learning as much as i possibly could and picking his brain and i'm thankful for the opportunity for for both those football clubs And now of course you've got that wonderful position coaching Tasmania and coming up really good tom as well with everything that's Going on here in tazie footy, but let's switch gears to satin. I have plays where you with the result Obviously a big win over queens lamb for the second year in a road and it played exactly as you hoped Uh, look after the first quarter. I was feeling a little bit relaxed and then the second or third I'll start to do a little bit of stress friends. So if the boys that he could have kept rolling would have Would have been nice, but no I think the program As exciting as far as the opportunity is that these guys have got to play football at a high level and you know, there's We're unsure of where that might go and the opportunities that it might present But, um, the guys really brought in uh and the and the staff and and coaches that were involved, you know, they brought in and supported myself and Um, we were able to you know, we believe put a quite a good team on the park and then Um, that's solidified with the result You know, they guys come out of the blocks and put 40 points on the scoreboard show shot queens land a bit We've knew that they were always going to come back into the game I mean it is is a rep game, but To finish that the way the guys did, you know, the quarters went a lot longer than tazio footy They were AFL times quarters where they the clock stops for everything. So I think the last quarter might have even went for 33 minutes Uh, I think queens they were banking On that we would run out of fuel tickets, but the guys were running on top of the field and we had multiple rotations and Everyone brought in. No, we didn't have guys. Um, stay out on the ground too long. They played their role Uh, and then yeah, we came away with quite a good result. So that was um, very pleasing and very pleasing for tazio footy You know, I think a lot of people were worried that uh, you know, that that wing in the last quarter was going to be An issue, but so you must have been really pleased how you ran out the game Yeah, that I think a few people were a bit bit bit worried after talking to some guys afterwards, but Uh, we just had confidence that the guys were still running on top of the field and we made some adjustments around stoppages stoppage structure Trying to shut the game down a little bit Um, they were getting us on the inside and the stoppage numbers were starting to turn and we made a couple of shifts And that's the sort of thing that a man blades on the come up played a role Uh, you know, he he had quite a good game on ball. We went to half forward You played a role, um, around the stoppage and then after he's he's actually as far as defense guys He then pushed forward hard and got on the end of a offensive goal So You know, that buoyant from the players was what we were after and you know, the importance of understanding that not everyone was going to have a Great day Some guys were going to have to definitely play roles and tackle and chase and put pressure on and Work hard in offense and not necessarily get the ball and as I say, all the players brought in Uh, as you do when you play for Tasmania and you know how we know how proud and prestigious that is Um, and yeah as I say, even you know, even the players like sickens and Kiran level who obviously were on AFL lists You know, they sacrificed their games at times as well for the greater good and we come away with a result Yeah, two best players as you just mentioned there. I mean, um, Kiran level the front middle is of course with Bradcock's good year out there as well How much peace of mind did it give you? Knowing you had experienced campaigners like those two who were renowned as sort of big game operators. I guess Yeah, look, um, Bradley played fantastic as well as captain I'm really led from the front You know, he was forward favorite of the time and then when he went on boy, he really impacted the game and Had a couple of shots on go, but, um, you know to have Kiran level and Andrew Phillips and Um, Bradcock's good year since he can see his guys and you saw it in that and they all brought in Um, you know big flips obviously played, uh, you know, a fair bit of AFL and spent a long time in the system But he brought in just as much as anyone and uh, you know, he was just as excited to be out there as anyone and When the guys are like that, um, and they lead from the front You know, everyone follows suit and was just a privilege to be a part of and a privilege to coach And the good thing is you get to do all again next month when you take on the Sydney Canberra site at utas stadium So do you expect the the final starting 23 to change too much and what we saw on the weekend? Yeah, look, it's it's an interesting one, Brent. It's the exposure for guys as well So, you know, we obviously won by 46 points, which makes it quite difficult to change the side But having said that, you know, this process is also about exposing some of our guys, um, to that level of football and As you mentioned, you know, it's it's it's great to always play state game But this year we get to play two and one up at utas, which is, um, you know, a great opportunity for some of our younger guys in the state Uh, so yeah, look, it's it's sort of an ever evolving thing in the moment We'll sit down as a match committee and certainly discuss that and go through the game, but um, yeah I don't I hope we don't make too many changes. I hope sorry I hope not to make too many changes, but I think there will be a couple just the as I say keep giving people Exposure to to play football. Um, you know for tas mania and at a high level and potentially aspire to be part of, you know, the devils and the vfl program moving forward You mentioned on our breakfast show last friday you asked every player to contact a former tas manian Representative, what was some of the responses they got and had that little exercise go Yeah, that was, uh, you know, a breakdown, um brought that in when I was involved in the first year as a player And, um, you know, it's always wrong true. Last year we had some guest speakers come down and speak about the importance of playing for tas mania And what it meant to them. So yeah, the guys, um, did a bit of a ring around and that and you know Some of the things are just the honor and and how much of a privilege it is and Uh, you know, you only only potentially a short time wearing a jumper So you make the most of it for as long as you can and beforehand we had asked the lynch come down and um, you know, I speak to the playing group Which was you know another great thing for the weekend and he mentioned that the 1990 Team and game that he played him was his, um, you know, most favorite sporting moment He's entire life until he played in the three permships of Brisbane. So, um, to hear him speak and Uh, to hear the guys, you know, the guy out of their way to contact some people was, you know Just just goes to show and not only not only that, you know You get a lot of messages from family and friends and extended friends and people that you work with and you know Everyone's contacting you about it because everyone's so passionate about football down here and Um, you know, just even that exposure for some of our guys and you know The crowd that we got last year and the crowd that we hope to get in a couple of weeks to shows Um, you know, how much excitement is around it and uh, everyone wants to wear the map Probably let you go Really exciting times for Tassie footy at the moment with the devils About to come into the competition in a few years. Obviously got VFL in the lead up Where does Aaron Cornelius sit in all this? So what's your dream result? What would you like to be doing and say two three years time? Oh, look, I just really like to be involved in footy where I fit best and and get, you know Um, have the opportunity to be able to do that. I think the main thing Brent that keeps me Involved in 40 at a higher level is the opportunity for some of these guys that, you know, may go off and play I feel as I said before it's the best job that you'll ever have and it's it's an amazing experience to be able to do that Um, so, you know, where where I can add value into a program Um, so be it or pretend to stop in the stands mate slapping a few pies with some with some devils gear on Uh, I'm not sure but um, yeah, look, I'd love to be a part of it Um, you know, and as I mentioned over the weekend with with the opportunity coach tasmae you know, it's it's a A privilege and an honor and now I was able to reach out to robert shore who obviously coached as he for a long time Um, you know, I did a bit of research on myself, you know, what it meant to him to be a part of that and I just Yeah, just uh, it's a great honor to be involved and I was very proud to uh to to to coach the state And, um, you know, hopefully those opportunities keep coming, but yeah, I, I aspire to be an AFL coach one day Brent and who knows maybe but um, yeah, I'm just trying to keep ticking the boxes in the meantime We got to a good start on that journey mate. Um, really good job on the weekend And we wish you all the best for the big game coming up next month at Utah stadium Aaron Cornelius coach of the Tasmanian men's team Thanks for joining us on the devil's advocate Thanks very much and have me go devils Well, starry is Aaron Cornelius my first guest today here on the show And my next guest not too far away either the coach of Tasmanian's women's team at deb rental She joins me right after this on the devil's advocate Right across Tasmania on scm tazzy this is the devil's advocate with Brent castella Follow us online at scm tazzy and text anytime 0 4 3 7 double 5 2 5 3 5 It's time now for my next guest It's the coach of Tasmania's women's team who unfortunately went down to Queensland on Saturday. Welcome to the show Deb Reynolds Thanks for joining me morning Brent. Thank you for having me Nice to talk to you. We'll get to the game in a moment But uh always like to ask our guests about their journey and footy off the top of the interview Where did the love affair with football start for you? A very long time ago actually um started back on the west coast. Um, the home of the gravel in queenstown Grew up playing football, um with brothers who were involved and um a lot of good friends who allowed me to tag along so that's when my love and my journey started Okay, and uh you probably have one in coaching for a wall, but tell us about yourself as a player As a player, um I guess initially my era was where females weren't really allowed to play football And um, so I sort of played on the fringes a little bit and then was part of the lonsets and tsl side, um, which first formed Many a year ago. Um, so that's where it first started and then in regards to playing a little bit further down the track with old scotch And then of course she became a coach as I alluded to a moment ago When did you know that uh that was the journey in the path you wanted to take? Actually just uh happenbrant to be honest that um I guess you with your children you you head along to junior sport and my son was playing with east lonsets And at the time and an opportunity presented itself there Uh, whether someone was away sick or not, but um the opportunity arose and It first started in the under nine boys um Sort of continued in that environment for a little while and then the under 17 girls um I guess became a thing here in the north and east lonsets didn't enter the team and I guess that's in many ways where my coaching began with the under seven till Of an under 17 baby pardon girls group at east lonsets didn Yeah, I wanted to ask you about that because you've had some success That you were AFL Tasmania's coach of the year in 2016 Then you won the the premiership's with east lonsets and then also enjoyed some success with old scotch as well Yeah, the under 17 girls, um that was the initial phase of that program And we had a group of young ladies who came along to to play the game Um and to try it out that they'd never been involved with football previous Um, so we had a wonderful group who were able to learn um and bought a lot of Gamesense and awareness from other sports and we linked it in and and through the two seasons We developed as um as footballers, but as young ladies and made a connection That sometimes is really hard to do and they did that Incredibly well and balanced each other out both on and off for feel very well Um through there a little while later ended up at old scotch as a senior women's coach and had some really good times there the first year we um I guess the girls had been developed a little bit Earlier with nick damden as head coach and I came in and and continued that path and shared success making two preliminary finals in a row Um, but fell short at the hurdle, but awesome connection with the group um growth Uh an older I guess Age bracket joining football for the first time But others who come through from the junior ranks You became the first female coach to be involved in a tsl program as well. What was your experience coaching at long system like with the men Uh equally as enjoyable, but a really um Really steep learning curves sam lonnie again gave me the opportunity to to be a part of the long system program um coming from The junior 17 girls into a a statewide men's program was was pretty fit um But the the group itself were very welcoming uh the coaching staff and players alike and they were nothing short of you know, um Happy to help me along my way and answer any questions, but sam took me under his wing as did criss heels um And helped me develop as a person in an elite environment at that particular time And be a part of of the men's programs. It was um Was pretty steep, but it was very enjoyable and very eye-opening Now, I think you were also me a king's first junior footy coach as well Do you still keep in contact with me and how proud of you of her as the plus she's become for north melbourne? Yeah So me it was one of those young ladies that were walked through the gate at the end of 17s and wanted to have a crack um She's obviously gone on to to bigger things now, but yes We connected for the first time and I was me as first coach uh, we do still stay in touch um regularly through, you know messages and phone calls and um It's lovely to sit back and watch and see how she's gone about her journey and her development and it shows the the young ladies You know watching her and understanding her journey that it's possible And there's more opportunities out there now Even from when mea began Um, but yeah, he's he's i'm proud of it. She's doing very well And I continue to watch her growth And you're building yourself a nice resume too, dude because I believe you're part of the afl W women's advisory panel that was established by the devils last year. Tell us about that experience of what it's been like Yeah, um That was actually um a nice surprise I received a phone call from from july and um with the opportunity to work as part of the advisory board and I guess to have The opportunity to be a part of something that's pretty special within within the Tasmanian landscape currently. So um the opportunity to be a part of that to To understand the processes That everything follows and what could possibly be at the end of it. Um, it's an awesome opportunity and one um One i'm very grateful to be a part of Deb Reynolds the coach of our state women's team is my guest on the devil's advocate today Deb let's look back at Saturday a 58 point loss is always tough But you must have been pleased with the way your players lifted in that second half and run out the game It was pretty tough. Um, we try not to focus on the score too much um Going back over the game. We we started the game Relatively well in the sense that um It was you know deep within that quarter before the score came from Queensland Um, but the girls battled throughout the four quarter performance and after that half time in particularly. We adjusted slightly um, the effort continued and continued and sort of went up a notch a little bit and um in that certain fourth quarter um particularly we we did notice that the game was played a little bit on our boot and we We actually played some football without that perceived pressure Behind us and um, we almost won that fourth quarter, which was pleasing Where do you think the game was one and lost and what did you think quenza and did a little better than your team on the day? Queenslander They're a much stronger Uh, fit or outfit and they trusted each other just that little bit more for pretty much throughout the game Um, and that plays a big part in a team's board So we need to go to work in that in the sense of understanding our strengths um Going forward and backing ourselves to actually play football Um, and backing ourselves that we've done some of the work previous So we've got four weeks leading into our next game Brent where we'll learn from this game in particular and um, we'll move forward with that game to to be able to put that into I guess another contest with New South Wales and ACT Yeah, i'll ask you your thoughts on that one in a moment, but just still on saturday's game How proud were your Kelsey hills performance that the ball was heading down her end quite a bit, but she stood really tall in defense She did yeah a backline more under pressure Um a lot particularly in that first half and and Kelty's a smart footballer She's he's a slighting frame, but she's tough and she's not scared to put a head over the ball and back herself into win the contest She um attacks the football and she's got really good game sense and and opens a vision and she's the skill Um particularly by shoe is high end and um, Kelsey did that all game under pressure And um, she was a worthy winner of the best on for the saturday's game But a two-part question from kelly here and one of our listeners that's sent us a message depth She wants to know how you became the women's rap coach and what level of experience you feel is paramount to do the job well Yeah, of course. So kelly um First of all, I had the opportunity to be uh, I guess The the rap coach last year through competition um with with a field has mania and a few discussions in that sense so Going through that process last year Uh enabled me the opportunity to have the same opportunity again for this coming Rep series Uh, which was one that I went through discussion with again and um welcomed the opportunity and going forward the continued growth in the the coaching space is um Very very important one of which I continue to do um I continually work on my personal development within I guess as an individual but to put yourself around that team environment to continue to learn to have a mentor who you can receive feedback from on a regular basis Um, it's about putting good people around you So there are many different things kelly, but they're two other things that um, and I hope that helps with your answer But they're the the things within this process And last time before I let you go. Deb you alluded to it, but um exciting that you get to do it all again Next month when tas money takes on a sibney camber combined sign at utas stadium How much do you expect your team to change for that game? Um, not a hundred percent sure yet brent um different opposition different ground, um, possibly different conditions Um, we've got a few injuries that we'll look at Um that we went into this game with and and we've come out of the game with with more so that may Change our team line up. Um, obviously as a coaching group we'll sit back and we will actually reflect Going within going into the next week In preparation for our first training gathering again next week leading into that game. So Sitting here right now. I can't answer that. Um, but we'll look at all those All the things that actually go around the selection and um, no doubt there will be some changes of some description Brilliant stuff. Deb, uh, obviously a tough day on Saturday, but i'm sure your girls will be better for the run Thanks so much for joining me on the devil's advocate today and good luck next month for that second match in the series Yeah, thank you brenton. Thank you for having me Deb rental joining me here on the devil's advocate the coach of our state women's team We're off to our final break of the show right after this We're coming back to whip around australia to see how our tazzy players fared in their respective competitions That's coming up next here on the devil's advocate Now it's time for a tazzy footy update on the devil's advocate It is indeed we're going to look at how some of our tasmine and players went across the country this week Thanks to battery world book of free battery check at battery world home art in the afl Devon port in north lonceson's locky cow and had a game to remember in the blues big win on friday night The second year half back flanker finished with 12 disposals eight tackles two clearances and five score involvements He also kicked his first goal at afl level in the final quarter And that was a large move from the carton faithful when he did that too lonceson's jake collage asney was solid in the cat's loss the defender had 13 disposal six marks and five intercept possessions Best wishes to alveston devan port's elix pierce after the free mental skipper Was subbed out of the game in the fourth quarter with a left forearm injury dock has coached just and long mua said post match That have to wait and see how the big defender pulls up and whether he needs a scan pierce had three disposals One mark and two intercept possessions in the teams win over the sun's in the vfl and vfl W lonceson's Colby mercertia returned to the field for the first time since he suffered bone stress in his foot against goal coast in round nine The number two overall picked picked up where he left off in the ruse six point win over kasey Despite being on a minutes restriction the half back finished with 31 disposals eight marks and four score involvements Lord at alsu greenwood produced the typical tough and contested performance would come to expect from him The big inside mid had 19 disposal 17 of those contested a game high 11 clearances six tackles and four score involvements Wingard's jordy pain continued to find his way in his third game at vfl level finishing with eight disposals five marks three tackles and a goal Lonnie's james leek ran out in giants colors for the first time after overcoming a quad injury that's kept him on the sidelines since january The first round pick finished with 13 disposals four marks three clearances and three intercept possessions in g w s's win over Its cross town rival siddie bernie's robbie fox returned to the field after a month long absence due to an ac joint injury He suffered against colton the veteran utility showed little signs of russ with 18 disposal six clearances Six score involvements and a goal as he looks to reclaim his spot in the swans stacked lineup North on sestan's j lock art was crucial in south port's two goal win against calton The former demon finished with 13 disposals six marks eight score involvements and a game high three goals kimber's hudixon was a powerful presence up forward for the sharks the big key four had 15 disposals Nine marks seven score involvements and kick to go gunoki sarah skinner helped the western bulldog secure a top two finish to end the vfl W home and away season the former swan finished with 11 disposals an equal game high eight tackles two inside fifties and two clearances in her side seven point win against the kangaroos old lence on old lonese stonians jennifer guyer was busy In defeat for north melbourne with 20 disposals five mark six tackles three intercept possessions and two clearances The russ will feature in the vfl w finals after finishing fourth on the ladder To adelade in the sandfall and sandfall w dev important north lonese estens bane and low was one of norwood's best in its dominant We know for port adelade the mid forward finish with 28 disposals seven tackles nine inside fifties in a goal And north lonese estens jaxon calo was a handful up forward for the red legs the former hawk had 18 disposals four marks two inside fifties And kick three goals Ovenstons candace bellman was one of norwood's best in the tense five point semi final win over central districts The tough inside mean to finish with 12 disposals a game high 15 tackles two clearances and two inside fifties The red legs will now play glennell your next week's prelim final And in the waffle and waffle w bernie's brady gray was one of peels best in its tight four point We know for west pirth the former docket finished with an equal team high 20 disposals four inside fifties three marks and a goal bernie's emma humphrey's waffle w season is unfortunately over After swan district was outclass by west pirth in the first semi final Three afl club veteran had nine disposals one mark and a tackle and in the coach's talent leg that has money A devil's girls team enjoyed its fourth wing in a row with an 18 point victory over the gippsland power Yesterday is your car battery ready for winter book your free check with battery world hobo today That brings us to the end of another big episode of the devil's advocate will do it all again next week But until then enjoy whatever you're up to and i'll see you next monday (dramatic music) (dramatic music)