We decided to take a break from movies to talk about the heaviest of heavy subjects — evil. Using Claudia Card’s 2002 treatise, The Atrocity Paradigm: A Theory of Evil as our jumping off point, we did our best to think through the present-day utility of this very loaded word. It’s complicated.

Topics covered: capitalism, climate change, radical feminism, the relationship between language and political action, Kant, Joe’s philosophy of everything.