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So anyway, today, we are talking about Gotham Knights, which is, if you listen to check the archives, listen to last week's episode, Ron and I had mentioned that we actually don't really like anthology movies all that much. No, he's specifically, I did not like this anthology movie. I like the, like the creep show and Volta Horrors and stuff, but this one right here just didn't do it for me. Interesting. I'm not, I'm not an anthology guy most of the time. This one does it a little bit better because I do like it when they all loosely connect together. Yes. I think that was a big one for me too. I do, I do really like when they tell a bunch of little stories that connect back to one bigger overarching story. Especially when they plant it, the seeds of it in the beginning and then the payoff is way at the end, but there's all these little stories that connect it. I like that. Yeah, I don't think that this movie specifically Gotham Knights does that, but we'll get into it. Also, I forgot how much I didn't like the animation of this movie. I was not a big fan of the animation in this either, especially the first one. But even when it turned into like the anime style, I still didn't like it. I was fine with it. No, the first one was absolutely trash. Like the background and the first one looked awesome, but they ruined all the efforts they put into the background by making everything look like garbage that was the characters and stuff. You know, I was just having a conversation with Clay over on Rager Alliance over on my other network. We were talking about a certain artist, and it reminded me of that. A Riley Ramos or Ramos. I can't remember the last name, but it's that the method. Their art style is like, I don't want to say like fluid, but it looks like the characters would be. I mean, it's fluid, I guess would be the best best option. They did some art for a Harley Quinn book that came out like last year, and that art worked. However, going to like taking that, that artist also did art for like a Robin, and it just didn't work as well, which is big. It's important. If the art style matches the story you're telling, you know, you could definitely get into it or not get into it. The first one, some of it was fine for me. Like when they're, because it's all, you know, an unreliable narrator. These kids also Batman, and they all saw him differently. So the unreliable narrator part of that I enjoyed, because you got a Batman as a shadow, you got Batman as a vampire bat. You got Batman as a robot. Which was great. The problem I had with it was that the animation was so shitty. Okay. Like Batman, when he was the shadow thing, he just looked like a blob. And like, even even when he was like, you know, a real person and stuff. I don't know, just the whole, because of how detailed the background was in this whole thing. The really shitty character animation on it made the whole thing trash to me. Okay. I liked the first one. You did or didn't. Sorry, was that feedback me? Yeah. Sorry. Sorry about that. I like the, so this movie is based around like four different stories. Four or five. Four, because it's the three kid stories and then the actual story that happens at the end when the one kid saves Batman from the little monster, the little bad guy that he was fighting. Yes. For that first story. Yeah. Was there like five total stories? Six, I think. Six. Yeah, maybe six total. What I, so what I, what I remember from this movie is that it was a bunch of anthology stories that I thought every story was told from the, from the view of a different person in Gotham. That's what I remember this movie being. And so we see that in the first like mini right in the, in the first like act or whatever is these kids telling each of their like run ins with Batman and what everyone experienced and why Batman looked different in every single one because it's a kid's perspective. So one thought that it was like the shadowy vampire like, you know, because that's what he was. Another one had like a mech suit, which I thought was interesting. The robot Batman was cool. Yeah, the robot Batman I thought was really neat. Was he, was that supposed to be firefly? The villain in the first one. No, I think it was just some random. Whoever he was, he was the, he is the fastest swimmer in the world. Cause like when he gets, when Batman chases him into the water and he swims away, like he is two seconds all the way across the fucking river from them. Well, he goes to the docks. Because he's, he's like enemies swimming. I don't know. He's anim is swimming. He's super fast. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's all worth it. Anything you do an anime, you're a hundred times faster than what you'd be in real life. Everybody knows that. But I also remember this when this came out though, this was supposed to be the bridge between. One and Batman begins in dark night. Yes. Yeah. So that's what I heard as well. According to IMDb though, the producers say otherwise. And if you think about it at the very. This movie says otherwise. Well, that's what I'm saying. So the very last episode, like story, they're in Wayne Manor. And Batman begins. Wayne Manor burns down. So. I don't know. It felt like that was a thing that they threw out there to sell some DVDs. I think so. Because Batman begins did so well. People were getting hyped about the next one coming out because they had already teased the Joker. I think by that, by the time this came out, we knew that Heath Ledger was going to be Joker. I want to say, I feel like I remember that. So I remember, I bought this DVD. From like when it came out, which is something I rarely ever do. I am not a go buy it guy. Yeah. Like a new DVD guy. And so I, for me to invest money into a DVD that just came out. So I paid like what 25, 30 bucks for this. Yeah. So, for me to invest any sort of money into it was pretty impressive for me at the time. And they got me because I, though I do remember liking this when it came out. I don't know what happened, but like, I mean, I still, to me, this still wasn't terrible. But it wasn't what I remembered. Like, because I'm right there with you, Chuck, like I thought this movie, the whole movie was the perspective of like people. Like it, and then that's really what was just what the first story was. First story was the perspective of Batman from these kids. I thought that was the whole movie. And it's not. We actually get different stories throughout the movie. Kevin Conroy does the voice pursuit for Batman in this. He does. Which is fantastic. But I did not like him doing the voice for the Bruce Wayne for the like. Like train. Just just that Bruce Wayne. Kevin Conroy's voice is too manly for that Bruce Wayne. So allegedly, they were going to get somebody else for Bruce Wayne for the young Bruce Wayne. But Kevin kind of convinced him was like, well, why don't you just give me a shot? I don't think he did terrible. No, no, it's not. He did a great job doing the voice itself. I'm just saying that like, whenever I hear that Batman voice for Bruce Wayne, I expect somebody with like this fucking, you know, massive chin. And like last one with a chin all the way down to his tits. That was weird. I had made no sense. Yeah. I will say so. I will say this though. The talk about that very first one. The kid that helps Batman, I believe his name was B devil. You know, Batman says, you know, good greeting. He says, good job, kid. And then he like goes off the voice actor. That that voice, Tim is a. What's the name? Scott Menville, which I'm sure you need the one you know who that is. However, he does the voice of Robin on T Titans. So that's funny. When he says, good job kid in my head. It's, oh, he's sizing you up to be Robin later. Got a orphan in first. He had to find out where his parents were so he could kill him. Exactly. That's true. Oh, it's time to get a new Robin. I broke the last one. Better go murder somebody's parents. Has there ever been a storyline where he finds a like a Robin that he likes that he thinks would be really good, but hasn't like as parents. So Batman has to like make them go to sleep. I like that. So Tim Drake. Tim. The Tim Drake being Robin was him finding out who Batman was and trying to convince him that he needed a Robin to not make him because at the time Jason Todd had just died. Batman was becoming meaner and like beating up villains more than he should have. So Tim was like, hey, you definitely need a Robin to kind of like cool you down. At the time, he still had a dad. Now his dad was like, I think he was wheelchair bound. Like he was injured and like was on the recovery. So his dad was like never around. There's that one. I know Stephanie Brown. I think her mom was gone, but her dad was around, but her dad is also the villain clue master. So it was one of those things where his while her dad was around, her dad was in jail. So. Interesting. Okay. And that's the only other because obviously Dick Grayson, his parents were dead. Technically in the retcon after crisis, Jason Todd's parents were alive. At least one of them was for a hot minute. So Batman killed them. Well, Joker actually killed them, but we got to make a cannon. We need a cannon event. Every Robin's parents have to die. Prior prior to Chrysler live for the earth, Jason Todd was just a copy paste. Dick Grayson. He had an acrobat background. His parents were killed in the circus. And then he became Robin because Batman saw it and felt bad. Post crisis. He was a street urchin who tried to steal Batman's tires. And then in the death in the family storylines. What? He tried to steal Batman's tires off the batmobile. Yeah, that's no, he did steal the batmobile. He did steal. And which is, yeah, dumb. Okay. But in the death of the family, a death in the family. Robin finds out that his mother is still alive and he tracks him down to three different people. And one of them was working for the Joker. And ultimately Joker killed both of them. So. Interesting. Okay. Cool. Death in the family is one of the like better Batman storylines, in my opinion. But that's just, I think I, there's there an animated movie about it. Well, no. That's Robin under the red hood, which they have, they have that scene in there, if I remember correctly. Yeah. Right. Anyway, so Gotham Knights, this movie. Sorry, guys, we do have to get that going on this one because my phone is dying. So. Oh, yeah. You should pop. Yeah. Kind of blow. Joey, uh, kill count. Okay. So, so when it switches over to anime, right? Because it goes from this garbage, like, uh, cartoonish thing to this anime garbage thing. Um. Right. So the opening is, uh, gorilla's animation. So it's like a gorilla is like, uh, uh, uh, music video. Yeah. And then it just becomes a flat out. Anime. And not even good anime. I mean, there was one, um, that had the art style was reminiscent of a Kelly Jones, which we, Ron, we've talked about before. We've covered for a Daphne burn. Oh, yeah. Um, I, I, I still have a mad respect for Kelly Jones. He does a wonderful, like horror art stuff. Um, yeah. But this one was because it was the one where he fights off crock in the sewers. Okay. Yeah, where the, uh, the old guy is like a, uh, frickin, uh, narc because he tells on the, uh, killer crock to Batman. Yes. Sure. Um, but, but yeah. It's also the only one I liked, but okay. But then the rest of them were very anime, like, heavy, like peak anime. Yeah. Um, so the cops in like the second short that we had that were like getting shot at in the Arkham city or whatever the hell that was. Yeah. What was up with the narrows? Like they just let them, let the, the. It may take over. Yeah, I don't know. That makes no sense. Those cops are sitting in the middle of this firefight in their, like, basic. Car, you know, and then it's getting turned to Swiss cheese. And we're expected to believe that they just sat in there without getting shot once. That's, that's the plot to Arkham city. And then, and then not only that, then Batman pulls at, uh, the one cop up onto the top of the building. Uh, Chris, but Alan, yeah. Yeah. He jumps off like the third story. Oh, it's only the third story. That's my bad. Uh, but it does not hurt him. Like I think that was another thing that I didn't like about that was that the, the, they could have drawn that a little bit better or done its situation did a little bit better to where that was more believable. But I did, but that, and that's the anime at this point. So yeah, 100% anime at points. Yeah. Uh, in that one in particular, Batman walking through the fire. I think I thought was really cool. Yeah, that was cool. That was pretty cool. Um, but like, and then we get the next, like, little thing where he's got like this bulletproof little, like. You know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I like it. That was not great for that one. I did write down hero kills because when he punches that dude after the guy shoots him in a reflex or the board into that kid, when he punched him, he definitely broke that dude's face and that. Oh, I 100% think he killed dead shot. I mean, oh, yeah. No. When he punches him. Okay. Okay. He punches him. He punches him into a tanker. Yeah. And the tanker crumpled the amount of pressure that is on one of those tankers that causes those to crumple is mad and sane. And so he would have had to have hit him like super human strength and it would have just caved his head in. Um, he, uh, he also would have actually probably killed him when he smashed his fucking head into a beam while the train is going on. Yeah. Yeah, like that, I don't care that he had a metal plate helmet. That dude's head would have been just integrated. Yeah. It's chopped off right at the brain. It's gone. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay. Another thing. When Batman deflects the bullet, uh, aimed for Gordon. Well, on the fucking dead shots is, yeah, dead shot is on a moving train hitting a moving target. That would, he would have to have like a high powered rifle to make that shot. Right? Well, that is the point of that shot though. He makes these impossible shots because he's just. I'm not, I'm not saying that he couldn't make the shot. What I'm saying is his bullet would have been one of the fastest bullets ever shot just to make that shot to make it accurate because of how the lineup with the shot goes. There's no way that Batman was able to watch where he shot from and deflect that bullet before it hit Gordon and killed him. Also, did we really need another hashing out of Batman's origin story with seeing his parents die again? Like, I mean, I know that we can't have a Batman movie without, you know, my parents are dead. But a little orphaned baddie, like it's, it's, I'm so sick of seeing it. Like, I want to go back in time and kill the way. But I think that's like kind of a thing that we've been bringing up is that we are getting like origin story burnout at this point because we know all these characters. We've been watching all of these movies and every movie seems to have this stupid fucking origin story slightly changed in some ways, but they always keep all the same elements. And it's like, but we have to remember they have to make these movies for people who have never heard of this character before and are going to buy this movie because of the art. Because the art on the front looks cool. Which is fine, but look, if you've never heard of the character before, then you're jumping in the wrong spot for this. And we don't disagree with you, babe. That's why they tell your story. When did this come out, Joey 19 or 2000 what? 2008. 2008 by 2008. This is the first time you have ever interacted with Batman. No, it's not. Okay, again, because like Chuck said earlier, this was couched as being a bridge between Batman begins. Sure, but we are also just so saturated in Batman at this point that there's no way that nobody knows. Well, yeah, somebody doesn't know Batman story. If you're buying this because you were told this is a in between for those two movies. Yeah, you already know. Right. Yeah. Anyway, um. I also have a note in here that says Batman gets cops respect so you know he's a bad guy. Well, so I mean, the entire time with that scene. Chris, Chris, but not only is like pissed because Batman is just like doing his work, doing all their work. Well, if the cops were better, Batman wouldn't have to do it. There's that wouldn't exist. Yes, you're right. But like he is getting mad because Gordon is basically giving them a babysitting job when he's like, we should be going after the Russians and Maroney. Like those two were the two gangs. They're just they're tearing up the city. We need to take care of them. And like I think I actually written down here. Right after Batman saved his life from being blown up is like just because Batman said his life he now gets respect for Batman. No, he is right for being pissed off at Batman. Like Batman is interfering and especially I think this is either in one of the shows or one of the comics. Batman, like capturing these villains, these these bad guys and giving it to the cops. Cops have really nothing to hold them on. They can't go to court. Batman's not going to show up in court to be like, yes, he's the one that did this. These guys will be able to walk free every time. Well, that's because it's not actually about catching them and stopping crime. It's about a rich kid getting to live out his cop fantasies. I mean, we have talked about that before in the comics. Probably in the movies. Yes. Okay, so Batman and Killer Crock, right? I hit him. He gets his shoulder like fucking munched on. I wrote down. Did he was he wearing hockey pads? Is that why it fit through? But, but he, okay, he bites like straight through him. I mean, like you, you can see the blood dripping out of his arm. So you know that muscles got torn in that shoulder. Like there's no way with Killer Crock's mouth, how big it is, how hard he bit, how much blood was seeping out of him that he was still using his arm. Even 35%. Yeah. But yeah, like a normal, a normal crocodile can rip a human arm off clean like it's nothing. And this is a giant man alligator. Yeah. And he was like, just totally fine. Yeah. Yeah, he was able to use a grappling hook while carrying the cardinal, which is his whole weight plus the cardinal's weight. Yeah. Okay. Like it's anime. You know what I mean? Like they're not going wrong. Like this isn't even common book logic. This is anime logic, which is even worse than common book logic. See, the thing about is like, I don't mind most animates, but I do not like Batman as an anime, but I just don't like Batman either. So, I don't think, I don't think Batman is a good. A good media for, or like a good, like a good source to make anime out of. I agree with that. He doesn't have any of the anime tropes. Yeah, because he doesn't have superpowers. I mean, not wrong. Well, very real. I mean, like, yeah, he's a detective. That's boring. You know what I mean? Like the things that make anime is good are fight scenes and like dialogue, which Batman also has not good dialogue most of the time. That's accurate also. Yeah, true. So, when Batman finds all those guns in the sewer, like what the fuck was up with that? Yeah, I wasn't entirely sure with that one. I will admit, I fell asleep a little bit during this because I found it really boring. But I didn't fall asleep for like long periods of time while I was watching this. And like, I remember him going into that area and then like, I close my eyes and then I open him and he's just like holding all these guns while Alfred's like, "Oh, very good, sir. Should we take these guns to your manner or do you just want to sit down there and play with them?" And then Batman's like, "All these guns." Yeah, it was a, that scene, because like he's, he'd been shot and that's when we get the like flashbacks of his training and all that stuff. And then when he gets to the point where he can, Alfred can come get him, he like falls down and feels the gun and then starts digging through and finds literally a cache day of guns. Right, because everybody knows that, yeah, because the sewer is the best place to keep your, you know, metallic firearms because definitely nothing bad is going to happen to him sitting down in a dirty sewer. But like, yeah, no, I didn't, I didn't understand unless he was trying to find them to get them to the cops so that he can then-- No, the cops have their own guns to keep people with. Well, they like to use, they like to use the, the, the bad guys guns. That's true, they throw them down like, "Look, he had a gun." Exactly. It's like, that's my only thought is he was going to get them to the police and they could have like, close some cases, maybe. I don't know, because then the next, next section, it's, they're all in a box that Alfred keeps tripping over. And Bruce is just like, "Yeah, I just, I'm not afraid of the guns, I just need to respect them." And he picks it up, bare fucking handed. Yeah. Which means if he does turn it into the cops, Bruce Wayne's fingerprints are all over that gun. Yeah, but he's a rich person, so him having his fingerprints on the gun makes sense. No, no, no, no, my thing about that is like, when they go to run the things and Batman turns in guns with Bruce Wayne's fingerprints on them, I mean, everybody already knows he's Batman and they just let him pretend that they don't because he's rich. I'll definitely say Lucius, like, in this one in particular, the one episode with Lucius in it, he 100% knows that he's Batman. Like, he's literally-- Look at it, look at it. But look at this little son of a bitch already over there eating my fucking muffins. No, jeez. Anyway. Yeah, but like, it's, they, they don't even try to hide the fact that they know it. Like, at least, at least that, like, what we saw in Batman begins is like Lucius knows, but he just won't admit it. And also, it doesn't, it doesn't. Yeah. He has never been told that he's Batman. He may have suspicions about it, but he doesn't know for certain. And he's never going to ask because he has plausible deniability, then. Exactly. He's not going to lie for the little rich boy. He's just also not going to tell the truth. But we have this movie that just is like flat out like, oh yeah, tongue in cheek, we don't know wink wink. Yeah. Like, they don't, they don't hide it. You know what I mean? And I think it does kind of, I don't know. I hated it. I hated that interaction. And I thought, I thought that that fucking thing was stupid. I didn't understand what the point of it was. The sound. Yeah, there was. Yeah. And I DB kind of pointed out that sound like a bullet speed of within. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. It's a little bit more like a bullet speed. So anyway, yeah, I didn't, I didn't get it. So I thought there would be a payoff for that thing, right? Like at the end when he's going up against like dead shot or something. Is that, but it doesn't. Nope. I don't know. Maybe, maybe the theory was is like he's got, he does have things for the counter to all of his. To all of his like rogues gallery of villains. But at what cost is it worth to him? Because he essentially killed this dude who also wanted to like, I don't know. Yeah. Who hated him? You know what I mean? Like he Batman was helping this dude who got shot in the neck because of Batman. But also legitimately a criminal and was getting turned into the police because of Batman. Like I didn't, I didn't like that story. This is my problem. No, you're fine. I get it. Although I do think the, the cache of guns that he finds. I just assumed that was everybody was throwing their guns down into the sewer to get rid of them. Yeah, that's what the prize. But yeah. Okay. All right. But that's what I'm saying. Like I think you originally gathering them up. Well. Because he was like really focused and really weird when Alfred found him and he's just sitting there holding all these guns looking at him like dumbfounded. But like my thought processes he was trying like he found one gun and was like this looks like it was from whatever because there was the one. I think before this where the guy who got shot by because of the gyroscopic bulletproof shield thing. Like he threw his gun in the sewer in the water or something. Right. Is that before this one? That was before this one. It's the little like Russian dude. And whenever like he takes him to the hospital he pulls his gun on the cops and then he like throws it away afterwards. Yeah. So I, my guess would be that Batman found this gun. He's like, Oh, this looks just like this one gun. Is there more he starts digging and like I said finds this whole cache a. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, but it's bad. I will say this like actually talking with you guys about it. My score is dropping a little bit. Yeah. But okay. So let's talk about the cool. So I like, I like the killer crock and like scarecrow culty like he's he's fostering a ball. Yeah, the scarecrow is pretty punk in this. Yeah, he's fucking rad as shit. Like kind of cult leader version. Yeah. I like I like cult leader scarecrow. I think it's super dope. Like he's it is a nice little nuance to the hallucinogenic like power that, you know, the, the mess and stuff. Because he doesn't always just do it to create fear to make you weak. He also does it to control you. Yes. Yeah, which is like, I feel like that gets lost in the, like, we didn't really see that in, in Batman begins. It's not one of those things, because it's, I mean, it's something in the comics, but it's not something that is like explicitly sent a lot in the comics. Right. It's usually only, Hey, this is fear. It's going to make you become a bubbling idiot and I can basically just like. Freak you out, kill you, do whatever I want with you, because you're now a scared little boy. Crawl up in the ball. But yeah, no, like there have been moments where he uses the fear to control somebody by using their fear against them. Yeah. So, yeah, like, I agree with you that that scene was was really cool. Yeah, I like this thing. That was cool. I did. The plot to Arkham City storyline, I did not like. It kind of doesn't make any sense in Arkham City either of like why this. Entire like prison city now exists out of nowhere. I just not my favorite. Which is funny because I love that game. And I didn't, I did not. Yeah, I never bucked holes in the concept of it. It was like, you know, why would they just like this? You know, there's so much crime. Just block it off. But that makes sense based off of Arkham Asylum game and how that ended. So yeah, the progression is. They just took a role in Gotham City. If you're following the movie, yes. Arkham Asylum in the movie. You know, it got blown up by. And scarecrow. I'm pretty sure they caught them all. Right? Like they just shut off the narrows to be. Oh, yeah. Now all the villains. Just own this part of the city. Bye everybody else. We're sorry. We can't help you. If you want to come out. It was. Well, that's it was the poor part of town, so hyper realistically, the cops would do that. I mean, you're not wrong. Yeah, exactly. But that's a very police is like, oh, sorry, we just need to, we just need to control the situation. We're not going to actually do our jobs. Yeah. Help and stop crime. Yeah, that means anything. Um. That's really all I've got. Ron, you got anything else? No, actually, I covered all of my notes. Um. Chuck, you got anything? When he goes to India, that was an interesting story. And I, so I always see the last scene between him and dead shot. Like that's a thing that like always gets like, but I'm like Instagram reels and stuff of like, this is why Batman is so badass. And yeah, for some reason, even though I've seen this movie completely forgot that this was in the movie. Like, I forgot that this was the last scene in the movie. And I was like, oh, yeah, I've seen this. Yeah, I mean, I've also seen this. Uh, probably since again, most. So I remember, I remember the kids and I don't remember anything else after it. Yeah. I must have stopped watching it or something. I don't know. But. Uh, the dead shot seems cool. Like it's finally like a cool fight scene. Um, but there, I have a lot of issues with it. I hate the, I hate the idea of characters. It's why I love and hate Bullseye as well. I hate characters whose power is they never fucking miss. And then they just happen to always go up against the guy who they can't hit. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I just, I don't, I don't know. Like, sell me more, have him make shots that were like impossible from like multiple, do multiple things. He should have been sprinkled in through the whole movie. I mean, definitely he was because it got revealed at the end. Yeah. And he was the one that killed the surveyor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The one with the gyroscope. So like it, like we said earlier, all of these are connected in a way throughout the whole movie. But it's very subtle, very small. So, yeah. So kill count. Uh, our kill count, which I'm not sure if Chuck is frozen and we're bothering to lose them or what. I think he just struck a pose. I mean, he's definitely struck to pose, but I wouldn't be surprised if, uh, if we lose him here a second. But anyway, our kill count is eight. Could be nine if I counted the, uh, the man in black that Batman chops his head off. But I was just, uh, what's the name of, you know, elaborating on the story? Yeah. So I think it's just eight. That's fair. Okay. Um, well, we got for Bingo. So the Bingo, we've got hero kills because I don't care what anybody says. He definitely killed the dude that shot him when he has a shield up. And then he definitely killed dead shot at the end of that. That's weird. Uh, oh my God. There's two trucks. Uh, it's not streamlabs just crashed on me. I don't know what happened. That was weird. That was weird. Um, but then we have government interference. We have unexplainable science. We have comic logic. We have origin flashback and we have dead parents. Um, that was all I really paid attention to. I was having a really hard time focusing on this movie, though. If I'm being really honest with you because it just, it was not keeping my attention at all. Like I had to stop four or five different times. I'd stop it. I'd go out. I'd like do some dishes or whatever. I'd come back in here and watch a little bit of it. I would stop because it just, like it was, there were just so many parts of it. They were just so like. Just didn't catch my attention at all personally, I guess. But I don't know. Chip. Spawngate. Um, so this is the, uh, this is the type of animation that I literally, like, I really don't like all that much. I like the first one. I like the, you know, gorilla's style, um, music video art. Um, I really didn't like when we got like super young Batman when he's like in, uh, wherever he was, like learning from not Raza Ghoul's daughter. Um, I didn't like that style of anime and I really hate the, the dark, thick line anime look like what we see in the last, um, when he fights Deadshot where there's just this real heavy drawn black line and also everybody's face is super elongated. Like, I don't know. And like really pronounced sharp, like bulky. Chains. I don't know. Um, I'm going to say like five out of. Wait, do we figure out the numbers have to be closer together for now holding up? So like, you figure that out. But if I figured it's a little late to be changing our, uh, system. Yeah. I mean, I'm just going to keep saying that it's a five out of 46 and two fourths. Okay. That's a half Chuck. I stand by it. Um, so whether you give a score for this one then out of 10. All right. Is this a Batman movie? Yeah. I mean, he's a cop. Uh, yeah. I remember liking this a lot. Like when it first came out, I thought it was cool. I really love the first story where we get like meck Batman and we give vampire Batman. I like the scarecrow, but I also like scarecrow. He's my favorite Batman villain. Um, but this is not. I had to pay money for this and that bummy out. Uh, I'm going to say. 4.43. Okay. Yeah, 4.43. So, I mean, I've already told you I didn't like this. I didn't really keep my attention. There were some things that were okay in it, but there was not anything that was like particularly stuck out to me or was like particularly interesting. Um, I gave it a 3.37. Okay. More about you, Joey. Um, I remembered liking this more. But before you talk to Chuck and I. Yes, but at the same time though. Like those are definitely nostalgic glasses for. Feather, I guess. I mean, I don't know, like, I, like I said earlier, I'd only watched it the one time when it came out in 2008. So it's been, you know, over almost 20 years. Um, you know, 15, if you will. Uh, and. I don't know, just watching it again that it. I also don't see myself watching this. Anytime soon, like it wasn't. It wasn't terrible in my eyes, but at the same time. Them telling me when I bought it, that it's supposed to be connected to the dark night trilogy. And it really isn't. Um, you know, I take some points off. I didn't mind the anime style. Maybe that's because I've, I watch a lot of anime. I read a lot of manga. Like that didn't bother me. I don't mind anything. Like I like anime. I did not like Batman specifically as an anime. That's fine. And that's fine. There was one, the one with the gyroscope thing. Like that Batman suit looked. Very weird compared to say the one with Deadshot, which is the background we have here. Um, so like, I don't know. Um, but I also did like the, I was fine with the, the very first story with the kids. Unreliable narrator. This one. And I really did enjoy the killer crock and scarecrow one. So that being said, like I gave it a 4.99, like it's, it's right there on the cusp. Where if I were to watch it again, I wouldn't feel bad. But at the same time, I don't see myself watching this again any time soon. So. But that gives us a combined score of a 4.26. Which drops it in at number 74. Uh, just behind Batman, the movie from 66 and just above the return of Swamp Thing. Yeah, that sounds fairly accurate. Not bad spot. That's in between the, I think mediocre movies. I think this was a notorious animated movie, which was we were expecting it to be better than it actually was. That's accurate. I can agree with that. So, Chuck, where can they find you at bud? Oh, wow. Um, I mean, hypothetically speaking, if you wanted to find me on the Internet, you could find me over at. Kicked out of the hood. No, he kicked and kicked out of the hood. No, he in kicked. Oh, run Instagram and tick tock. Um, you can find my hobby page on Instagram over at kicked out of the hobby. No, he ain't kicked. Ronald, where can they find you? Uh, so you can find me on Instagram and tick tock at good at this game. I don't really post a lot on tick tock, but, uh, I'm, you know, I've got an account there, whatever. Um, but you can also find my art on Instagram at good art, this game. Uh, and I've obviously, you can find me wherever you can find this podcast. And you can find my shirt that I made for the podcast on Tebow and Red Public. Except the other way around. You know, Joey, where can they find you at? You guys can find me on Instagram at comic rundown on threads, a comic rundown, comic book rundown for both those. Sorry, uh, email us, combo crumb down at gmail.com. If you do, we'll read it on the upcoming episode. Our song was done by Cam. And like Ron said, we've got merch over on Redbubble and T public. Um, also red. What? I said the right. I know I was laughing because I was hoping you were going to mess up like I messed up. Oh, okay. Um, also, if you want to rate and review us on your podcast, the app a choice, you can. Uh, what if you ever do will read it on the upcoming episode. Uh, so that being said, our next movie. Is going to be Rogue one, a Star Wars story. Ron, you're finally get to make it through the whole entire movie. Yeah. This is my, this is my favorite Star Wars movie of all time. If we go did. If we go to, uh, Empire Strikes Pack, which was my number one. This would be my now number one. So. It's interesting. Um, it'll be interesting to get a, uh, to not only get Ron's. How long it takes Ron to fall asleep. Uh, one, uh, but also. Where it sits, I have not watched it since I saw it in theaters. So I'm very much riding the high of that. I watched in theaters and I loved it. Um, it is. I'm my, my hope is that it is not a one scene movie. Like I, not that it was, like I don't want it to now become a one scene movie. And I look back at it and go, man, the rest of this really isn't that great. And it's only because of this one scene that I really love about it. So. I think, I think you'll be pleasantly happy. Yeah. I mean, everything about it. Three scenes. That was just like amazing. Yeah. Everything is about it. I love short troopers. I think they're rad. Um, like I love that armor design. I thought it was cool and it was different. But we should stay back for the next movie. No, Ron. I want your phone to die. All right, everybody, thank you all for listening. We will catch you next time. Bye. 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