(upbeat music) - We are back again everyone with another collab. Today it's gonna be a four wing formation flight collab with flight culture, women rock wings, and Skymommy launch podcast. Hey. - Hey. - Hey. - Also honorable mention to Journeywright, LOC, who is basically ran by the same collab guests with flight culture. So. - Thank you. - Women rock wings, flight culture, the flight culture event, and Skymommy launch podcast. They support women in aviation by offering mentorship, grants, and networking opportunities. Excuse me, pioneers like our guests, Marisa, Toya, and Megan. They serve as inspirations throughout their accomplishments. The organizations they represent, emphasize education, outreach, and advocacy to address certain disparities in the field of aviation, thus paving the way for a more inclusive aviation industry. - Whoo. - No, that's right. - That was nice, oh bravo bravo. - Oh yeah. - We're working, y'all, we working. - Yeah, you gotta get our guests all hyped. - Oh, what an introduction. - I mean, it was really nice. - I try. - Yeah, but you guys obviously deserve it. You are all pioneers, innovators, and just niche identifiers and fillers, solution makers, really, in the aviation realm. I mean, we're kind of the odd ones out here, so each of you have your own unique story. And what we like to emphasize to everybody is, you gotta, especially with the innovations and the trailblazing y'all are doing, you gotta fall in love with your superhero story, your origin story, that is. 'Cause what y'all doing is nothing shy of being superheroes. Let's be real. So it's truly an amazing day to have all of you together, have some of the most dynamic, inspiring voices in aviation. Yes, you are. So in this special collab episode, we're gonna be exploring the unique perspectives and experiences of our guests from the groundwork that went into the fly culture event, to promoting diversity and inclusion in aviation, empowering women, minorities, people with unique challenges, and some insightful discussions with Sky Mommy Podcasts. Hey. - Hi. - Okay, I mean, that was my dynamite intro. So for those who, I'm talking too much, for those who are new on Sky Mommy Lounge, I'm just gonna give that quick intro for myself anyway. Where you might be hearing this other voice, like, "Who the heck is talking on Sky Mommy Lounge's podcast?" It's like, "Doesn't sounds like a dude." So we are "Cancel for Maintenance." We are a show that takes a behind-the-scenes look into the non-glamorous life of aviation and aircraft maintenance. We sure laugh and part wisdom, all in hopes of giving you that split seconds, relief in your day that will hopefully prevent mishaps. Hey. - Nice. - Nice. - Ladies again, thank you so much for collaborating with us, for joining, taking the time. I know it was a little bit of a kerfoffa to get things rolling, but we're here, we're in it, we're making it happen as we all do. - Absolutely, we're here. - Absolutely, yes. Sky Mommy Lounge, you wanna take home and hit him with your first insightful topic. - I wasn't ready. No, I'm just kidding. (all laughing) - No, absolutely, I am really thankful to be on this collaborative episode. This is wonderful. This is a dream come true to sit among giants and I get to ask the first question. What is, what was the one thing, I wanna ask this is Megan Antoya, what was the one thing that you wanted to accomplish with this event going into fly culture? - Mm. - I always put, I always throw Megan up first, I'm always like, "Okay, Megan, you wanna go ahead and go?" - 'Cause you got this, Megan. - Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I love even numbers, I do not, I might be in second. (all laughing) - One of the bigger things, initially, when first speaking about the event with Toyota, was exposure outside of fun. Like, just really creating a space that showed multiple facets of aviation and us in them and fun. Like, I think those two really tied it because there's so much, obviously, we do these things as careers, but there's so much fun to be had in it as well. So, exposure to all the different facets of it, as many as possible and fun, I would say. - Those are both very attainable goals, the way you designed this event, oh my goodness, I mean, you hit it. - Oh, thank you. - It's a lot of work. - Yeah, and I'll piggyback on Megan. You know, another big agenda for us with the event was to partner with a tech giant to highlight tech STEM and aviation. So, partnering with an organization and global company like Microsoft and being able to offer a free experience for the youth has just been an absolute gift for us to be able to give back to the New Orleans community. So, I would say that has just grown to be a priceless experience at fly culture. - Absolutely. - That's incredible. I was actually stationed in Louisiana for a long time and New Orleans is a beautiful spot for this location. Was that totally intentional or did you guys have roots there and saw the opportunity? - Definitely intentional. We had, I would say, we didn't know the roots were this deep but we're grateful the city of New Orleans has embraced us as their own. And so, we had some roots because we participated in essence fast last year, it was our first year and we wanted to go back there specifically during the time of essence fast because we knew how many people come out to the city and we thought it would be an amazing opportunity to pair fly culture with the timeframe of essence fast and essence fast weekend because the city is even more vibrant during that time. So, yeah, definitely roots there are definitely intentional. - That is awesome. Vibrance is a good word. I would say diverse. You've got a lot of different people, not just your tourists there but there's just a lot more cultures and a lot of people can open their eyes to what fly culture means for us. And basically just kind of like Mary or just share that with society at large. And like you said, Louisiana New Orleans is just a beautiful spot to do it. So, I love it. - Absolutely. - That was pretty much my questions for now. So, I'll turn it out to the kids. - Those are great questions, thank you. - I like it a lot. - I like it a lot. - Yep, and what I like best is when you mentioned the exposure piece, especially for aviation and aviation for people who aren't too familiar with how it works. And saying the quiet part out loud is also seeing women in aviation. It's sadly very discouraging to see so little. I think what the latest metric was like less than 3%. I want to say less than 3% of aviation is comprised of women in all facets, not just pilots, but everything. Like as a whole, aircraft mechanics, air traffic controllers, supply managers, all sorts, less than 3%, that's terrible. Considering that aviation and women have been in the mix since the 40s, right? - Yeah. - The 40s with, you had the WASPs and then certain other initiatives, like the airmen and certain army units, have they been integrating women when they first stood up and whatnot? And so you hear like 20, 24, you think it'd be closer, I don't know, 20? 20 is, maybe? - Yeah. - But no, no, no, it's 3%, 3%. - I mean, it's better than zero. - It is. - It's better than zero and it's definitely on the rise. It's definitely, you know, slowly growing and we're just so happy to be a part of the exposure piece. - Yeah. - And even, you know, the grant piece, you know, being able to help people, help young ladies pursue in their dream, you know, so that they can make it a reality. - Absolutely. - Absolutely. - And I love that. - Yeah. - Especially with, not just the exposure, but also giving people the opportunity to pursue it because you get some individuals like, I would, but, you know, - Yeah, it's the high barrier to entry. A lot of people think that it's just not attainable, not within their grasp, and they don't realize that there are grants and scholarships available and they don't know where to turn. They don't know who to talk to. So I think what we've all done here is put the information out there and education is such a huge part of what this experience is going to be. So I'm thankful that people have more access information now, but you'd be surprised that people just don't know. - Absolutely. - Yeah. - We run across all the time, all the time, you know, they don't know that they can, you know, they don't even know the difference between, you know, their international airport versus the private airport and where the schools are located and what a discovery flight is. And I have to be very honest with you guys, I didn't know either. (laughs) So it's nice, you know, even two years into the game, just going back to the beginning and into the basics. And remember that not everyone knows even where to begin and be able to speak on those things and share those experiences. It really helps. - Absolutely. So given that, were you aware at the time that the percentage of women in aviation was so discouragingly low? - I didn't personally, I had no thoughts about anything besides the fact that I randomly one day was like, I want to be a pilot. And, you know, I started my training and within that I learned about all of the statistics, the statistics for blacks versus whites, women versus men. And it just powered and fueled my mission and my passion even more. - So like given that, now that you do know the statistics, hasn't, what was that like having that knowledge and then what did you do to overcome it? - Yeah, so for me, once I started, you know, finding out more and more, I found it to be very cool that I had even taken the first step and I found it even more cool that I had such a huge family of women to look up to and now to have all these new superheroes in my life, you know? I was super inspired. As far as what I did to kind of overcome it is just keep persevering and pressing through and just trying to be, you know, as transparent as possible when it comes to where I am with my journey and speaking to people that you can do it too and then respecting people that have been in it for years and just seeing where I can get in to say, "Hey, you know, how can we come together "so that my community or my network can learn more "about, you know, women in aviation?" - I love it. Megan, how about yourself? Like what, did you know that the statistic was so low and then they're like, "How did that make you feel?" - Play out. - Yeah, how did that make you feel and what did you do to overcome it? - I think yes and no. Part of it is as you know, we've spoken plenty of times, Marisa and Toye, like y'all all know that I started out in maintenance. So I lived being and only when I graduated tech training, I lived being and only for a while in my unit as far as on my team as an electrician. So, but you know, when you're in your 20s, at least when I was in mind, I was aware of the fact that I was the only in my shop but I didn't really think about it in a broader perspective of all of us per se. I was really, really just focused on at that time, just trying to do the best that I could. And when I left aviation per se as an electrician, aircraft electrician and then became a chaplain and then encountered like actual pilots that looked like myself, then honestly, that's kind of when the light bow went off that while I don't really see this and that's when I honestly began to reflect on my career that I had never met outside of just a black pilot, wow, fix an aircraft, just a pilot of any other background outside of a white male. While I was in an electrician for years. So, how it became kind of an awakened in a sense once I became more active and flying and I was also older, you know. And then it was then that it started becoming purposeful. That's how it I overcame. It was just by doing it. I think, like Toya said, you take the first step and when you take the first step and you start meeting other people and other people that look like you and they're purposeful as well, then you start seeing it. And I think that's honestly you overcome many things by just doing them, right? It's not that you're not afraid. Like people say, don't be afraid and that's not a realistic expectation. Fear is a real thing, but you don't let it cripple you. And I think that's really what it is. It's not letting the numbers, like you said, overall three percent, right? And we're talking about all fields. It's well to be aware, but you shouldn't let it cripple you. If anything, it should be something that pushes you. And I think with all of the tools that we have now, it's even better because the world is smaller in the sense of the fact that we can reach people in so many different places. Like think about all four of us in this conversation. Nobody is in the same place right now. So when you think about all these tools we have to reach out to other women who are doing what we do. It honestly provides so much support and uplift that the focus on the number is not one that is crushing but inspiring to do more. - I loved it. - I loved it, it's amazing. And you hit the nail on the head and I really took the thunder out of my cloud and I'm like, ah, but it's true though. Like the numbers are terrible, right? But as you slowly see it tick up and you realize you're part of that uprise. Like, oh yeah, we're gonna crush this. It's kind of like when you do something for the first time and you see the success roll in, right? Whatever, however big or small it is, like you PR'd your last rep or you ran that extra second or what and I'm like. - Yeah. - Yeah, it's gonna go down hard, you know? (laughing) Stay out of my way. (laughing) - Absolutely, great. And I'm gonna highlight Skye Mommy last two 'cause she's being humble about it but her as well, like so for those- - Oh, she's a G. Let's be honest. - Oh yeah, let's. (laughing) - Oh my goodness. - I'm crushing it all for you. - I'm just gonna throw this out there. I might get my first tattoo in New Orleans while we're down there just so you don't. - Oh, I'll get a mini, I'll get a baby one if you do. Let's do it. - He is all day. - I don't know for sure but I'm pretty sure it's gonna be some glorilla lyrics. Like, yeah, I get it. (laughing) All about it. (laughing) - Oh, I got it. (laughing) - So I'm gonna highlight Skye Mommy lounge as well. Like, she, well, she is definitely a G for sure. She is, she crushes it, she sets goals and makes it happen. For everyone on the Council for Maintenance side, she is a Black Hawk pilot, right? Black Hawk's right? - That's right. - Black Hawk's pilot. - Wow. - Really bad, I'm so stoked. - The air crew kind of aircraft, you know? - Yeah, the homie aircraft, you know? I got the boys in the bag, the boys and girls in the bag and then I am a two years in but I'm a maintenance test pilot for both model aircraft that I'm qualified in. So both Black Hawk's Lima and Mike. - Thank you. - Yay, I'll stand it. - I'll speak a little bit about the maintenance side as far as like test flight goes and just taking care of the maintainers and that has become my passion but that wasn't something that I initially thought was gonna be my path. So I'm excited that we've connected. That's been, it's been awesome making the... - Since you opened that door, I gotta pick it now. (laughing) - We'll do it. - What drew you to aviation? Since it wasn't your first choice because I want to be honest, it wasn't mine but what drew you to aviation? - Well, what drew me to aviation was I was looking for something very challenging. Something, I was actually looking for a specific culture because I was, I did the college thing first, graduated, got my degree and I was like, I need to get in the workforce, I need to do it now. I failed at networking 'cause I was just in school all the time, I was working all the time. There was just no room to meet the right people and put myself in front of the right people. So I was trying really hard to break into my degree field which was corporate finance. And I worked all these retail type jobs. I've managed to gym for a while. I worked for UFC gym. I did a varied experience for my resume but I just could not tap into the corporate world until the very last second. I was like, you know what, this culture is just kind of off. I was raised with the mindset of varied discipline and army officers and there was just no discipline in the fields that I was working in. And there was just no brotherhood, no loyalty. Like you could be chumming it up with your boss after five p.m. drinking. And then the next morning you don't hit your numbers, you're out. Like there's no, I got your back, you can't look left and right of you and know that that person's got you. And that was something that really drove me back to the military perspective because my parents were like, hey, you know, we're three generations deep already. You don't have to join the military. We won't fault you for it. You should just focus on what you want to do. And I just gravitated right back because I was just used to that culture and I wanted that brotherhood and I thought that the army would do it for me. And I'm not gonna lie, I went to Army Air Force Navy Marine Corps and I was contract for Marine Corps for a while but when I was trying to enter the military and become a pilot, there was a shortage in our military. Not really shortage. There was a lot of cuts in our military. They're cutting officers at the time. They were not hiring pilots. They were only looking at people with a 4.0 GPA even though the minimum requirement was a bachelor's degree. So it was very discouraging at first but I wanted to pick a job that one was 1% of the 1%. And that was the number I had in my head when I came in and to answer the question you had for the girls earlier, I didn't really see or I don't think I cared about it at the time because I was raised with all boys. I never saw myself as like an outlier. I never saw myself as not one of the guys. I just said, hey, this is a job I wanna do. I don't know much about it but I'm gonna work my ass off and I'm gonna be successful at it. And just the journey to get there was filled with adversity. It took me seven years to finally get into the military and get my wings and not been in eight years. So it's been incredible. I have noticed when I first got in, I didn't realize that that number was so small until I went to my first unit and I was one of one female warrant officer in the whole battalion. And I was kind of like that for the majority of this career and I didn't realize that that number was actually that small. So it wasn't until I got to this unit here that now I'm one of two warrant officer females in the whole battalion and it's actually been really cool to have like another counterpart and I'm like, man, she's incredible too. Like this, where has this been my whole career? So I didn't really know that that number was that small until after I got to my first unit because I mean, to the right and left to me, there was quite a few girls but there's so much more now. I see a lot of the women in the gym and I'm like, oh my goodness, like you guys are pilots too, that's freaking awesome. So we're as a warrant officer in the army, we're 1% of the army. And then the aviation part of that is less than that 1%. And then the women in the aviation is less than that. So it's like a fraction of the 1% that we're just like grasping at. So yeah, it feels like a small number but when you're like looking at it and you're working on your team, like it's just something I just don't focus on. It's like, no, no, I wanna look at people left and right of me and know that they worked hard to be here. I could count on them because they will keep us safe. And in a dire situation flying helicopters, like as soon as those blades lose any kind of momentum, like you're not landing anywhere, hopefully you're landing, but you're probably crashing. So those are things that I just don't even consider, but when you take a step back and look at it from a macro perspective, yeah, that number is really small. - I love it, I love it, I'm good at this. And that there is Marisa's superhero story, everybody, superhero origin story, yeah. I'm telling you fall in love with your-- - I'm not the shortened sweet portion of it, but yeah. - I'm telling you fall in love with your origin story. You know, that's the one thing that's gonna like, you don't know where you're going until you know where you've been, you know, and where you've been has been more than one step than where you were last time. I mean, nothing discourages more, right? But after seeing all these steps, seeing all the little progress, however much effort it took, it just makes it that much better when you actually do achieve it. And that ties into what Fly Culture does with that taking your deep breath, having faith in yourself and taking that next step, right? Having that culture of people who are just about you, right? I mean, New Orleans already. I mean, that's just a full immersion right there, right? But then you're also having something like Fly Culture, women, Rock Wings, and Journey Ride, LSE, and Sky Mommy Lounge, like all of this is in, like it just like hit that VR man, you know? Like you can do, not only you can do this, you've been doing this, you're the only thing stopping you is you. And you're like-- - That's a fact. - Really? - It's true. - You're like try it, try it. You can say no at the door, you can't say no when you jump, right? And so, and when you realize when you do take that leap of faith, you realize like, wow, you know, all these insecurities just, it was on my head, right? Like, I'm gonna highlight again to what y'all say when you started flying, like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, right? - Yeah, ask me. - Or like, no, no, no, no, I don't want anyone to take ownership of it, want this to just be me, you know? Like, I'll celebrate it after I get the wings or after I get my certificate, one night, you know, like, man, 'cause then all those insecurities just come embedding, even though they don't say it out loud, it's kind of like, oh, you're a pilot, right? Or you're an aviation, you know, it's gonna give me like that, that passive aggressive stink eye almost, you know? Like, even though they don't mean it, that way it just kind of gets that non-verbal cue like that, I'm like, excuse me? And it's in some cases, people take that as like, step off, make room for the other person, right? But you have women like yourselves who just say, you know what, try me, we ball. (laughing) - That's awesome. - Step off, we ball, you know? Watch me do this. And that's what I think a flight culture is, especially when you guys were advertising from the start, I remember when this was a thought process. Like, you know what? You know what, I wanna go to do this, right? - Yeah, I mean, I have heard bits and pieces of this conversation. And I'm sure like, in your messages and emails and meetings, you might have had a lot more, but when I first heard of the concept of it, what you were guys attempting to do, that was the first thing that popped in my head. It's like a hype that everyone needs. Like, you can do this. You're gonna, you, not only can you, you've been able to do this. Why don't you, right? And especially for people who are minorities or having unique challenges to themselves, it's really uplifting. It really is, it's like that rising wind that just keeps the air afloat, even and you have a less effort to do than if you didn't. And it's... - That's so beautiful. I didn't mean, I'm sorry to protect you. - I really appreciate that. I really appreciate the description because it's like from, it's different. Obviously, we had our thoughts, like you said in our messages and our conversations, but it's nice to hear from the perspective of people who are seeing the things that have been coming out of, from the team as a whole. And it's nice to hear that the heart is been relayed. - Yeah, how it's translated. We work so hard behind the scenes, making the idea and then turning it into messaging. But as things are spinning and things are kinda starting to like be a reality, we always kind of backtrack and love to connect with people and ask, how is everything translating? Like, how are you guys feeling about our messaging and how we're organizing this thing? Because we're doing it for the people, you know? So it's just so cool to hear you, just explain it exactly the way that you did. It's so motivating for us that you wouldn't even believe it. - Yeah, that made my heart smile. I'm like, that's beautiful. All day, only on days that end in life. (laughing) - All of them, all of them. - All of them, all of them. (laughing) All right, I remember when my child went to mention that, "Hey Dad, what days end in T?" And like, Tuesday, Thursday? Like, is this a trick question? Like, Tuesday, Thursday? Like, no, okay, Tuesday, Thursday, today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow. Like, oh, here we go. (laughing) - That's so cool. - That's kids, dude. That's kids, then. You gotta love the innovation and the thought process that happens to kids because you think that just because, like, you know, they don't have like this formal education that they don't know anything, but sometimes they come up with ringers that just like, really, like hits you like, dude, that was genius. And that's, at least for me, what all three of you really say to me, and especially for aviation's sake. Like, we're here, we're doing it, why aren't you? And not saying in the fact that you're physically incapable of doing it, it's just like, if you have the means, then what's holding you back? Right, if you have the means, the only thing you really lack is just that first step. And for many of us, that first step was the one that changed it all. I mean, for myself with aviation, it probably wasn't the first step. (laughing) But once you get into it, once you understand this community that we're all with, and I feel this is the real soul, for lack of better words, for all of y'all, for women, rock, wings, fly culture, and sky, mommy, lounge, is the community it brings, the mentorship that it brings, and the amount of help that it just avails people to. Like, you're not doing this alone. You're not doing this with zero knowledge. I mean, maybe for your experience to take your ad zero, you know, sometimes you just can't know until you do, but for all the nays saying that's going on, we're the ones that saying yes, if that makes any sort of sense to everybody. (laughing) - Oh, it makes perfect sense. We've been talking about that in a sense of just surprises we've had along the way, and just, you know, focusing on the yeses, and focusing on the doers, and the community that is showing up, you know what I mean? Because it's good to be aware of your nose and where they're coming from, but sometimes we allow them to become so daunting, and we were having a very real conversation about that not long ago, and about how, like, of course, we're human, and we feel these things, but you don't want it to be what you carry, you know what I mean? Because there are so many people like you, you know, and like, Marie, I was going, you have me saying to Marisa, and like Toya, or like me, who will support and lift each other. And I think that a lot of times we get caught on the fact that we thought it would come from somewhere else, because I can definitely speak from that for myself, is you thought these people were your people, and these were where your yeses would come from, but they come from completely different places that are exceptionally surprising, and I think that's something you can really, I think that's where you could put your energy, and you get some of the best experiences, like when Marisa launched her podcast, I was, like, super excited about it, and I couldn't wait for it to come out to, like, hear her story and hear how she connected with everyone, and I'm like, oh, I can't wait for this, and when I saw she finally dropped promo, I'm like, oh, I'm like in love right now. You know what I mean? And think about it, her and I have never met in person. (laughs) - Yes, I do agree to that, because I did, I think I spoke on it before in one of my episodes, but it's like all these years I've been trying to get accepted into this community that I have applied for, I've worked hard for, and I'm thinking that the support would come from within my army aviation community, and it hasn't, in most cases, it hasn't. I haven't had a mentor that looks like me, I haven't had female mentors growing up in this career, thinking it would come from army aviation, and then all of a sudden, Megan, you and I connected, and that was the support I needed, and I met you before I applied to special operations, and it was like, man, you know, like you said, it's an exceptional place where it came from in a moment that I needed it, and then here you are, one of the last conversations you and I had, you were like, you know what, you should just launch your pocket, just do it, and I just did it, and I'm like, you know what, I've been sitting on it, she's right, why am I sitting on it, and here we are, and I'm having a really great time, I'm getting really great feedback. I think what really appeals to me, and the message that comes across to me about fly culture and what Megan and Toya represent is that, yes, we're doing it, and you could do it too, but it doesn't just apply to aviation becoming a pilot or a maintainer, it applies to literally everything in life. If there's something that sets your soul on fire, you can do it. - Absolutely, I love it. - I've been waiting for two weeks to say this one quote, I've like, screenshotted it, and I've been saving it about voting, I think it's a little bit to use it. I'm so excited, so you guys know how the new trend, it's like the new wave. Everybody's talking about manifest this, manifest that in life, you know, I've been one of those crazy old manifesters for a long time, right, I've always got these ideas, and people are always like, what are you talking about? What are you doing? And then, you know, I do my best to make it happen, and that's the same thing with anything in life. Like Marisa said, but, you know, while we're talking about being in the aviation community and fly culture specifically, just, you know, fine-tuning it and making it happen, but here's the quote. So the quote is by Steve Jobs, and it's the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones that do. And, you know, it just, what I thought, I was like, screenshot's saved, I'm gonna get an epic moment to say this. (laughing) Because I know a lot of people are standing by. People are literally saying, I'm watching, or I know a lot of people watching, and here I am, what my little smart mouth is, well, why aren't they doing, or engaging, or, you know, being a part, or make it, you know, but we all got our wheels turning in our own lives. But just being able to highlight moments, bring people together, be in a moment of creation, creating experiences, it's just fantastic. And I'm happy to be partnered up with Megan for, you know, this experience, like Marisa in aviation, and very early on in my training, I connected with Megan, and she was a huge part of keeping me going. I also would love to highlight, because I find this also very unique. The school that I attended, it was owned by a woman. And she wasn't an aviator, her background was long, but she got into aviation school business and was doing a great job running it. She's, you know, she's still up and running, and she has two locations in Florida. And then the young lady at the front desk that, you know, was there when I signed up, she flew as well. So just having these amazing women around us doing the crazy things that we do. (laughs) - That's right. - You know, we have the opportunity to change the world. Together. - I love all that, I mean, like my chest. - Yay! - My chest. (laughs) - I'm not crying, you're crying. - Yes! - Oh yeah, there's lots of tears. - It really is, I mean-- - Happy tears though. - Hearing all y'all, I'm gonna call it superhero stories. I'm just being honest right now. Hearing your superhero origin stories, it really helps us reflect on ours. I'm like, 'cause you know what? Like, it really was just on a whim sometimes. - Yeah, absolutely. - Like, like you mentioned with Marisa, with Sky Mommy, he was like, just do it fam. I'm like, okay. - Y'all y'all let me all the time too. You drop your tippets in there. And I just want to uplift, you're uplifting us, but I definitely want to uplift y'all and your entire team and the support and the advocacy and you know, the platforms that you provide and the support, like, I don't like you, and you do it openly, lovingly. So thank you so much. And you know, y'all have your own show and your own platform, but you open the door to like uplift our stories too. So it's amazing to have that. - Yeah, that's a little cryin' emoji that I always send you guys. 'Cause you also open the door too to just let me vent 'cause I'm like, man, they got me frustrated. I work again. And people don't understand the importance of maintenance. Like, this is life saving. Why aren't they understanding? And you just come at me and you're like, you know what? I get it. I see you, I hear you. Everything you're feeling is valid. And I'm like, yes, thank you, gosh. Because there are very few people that are just that passionate about what really goes on behind the scenes, behind the curtain. People just don't know. And to know that I have somebody on another screen somewhere, just like hearing me out and sharing your wisdom with me, tell me, hey, there's plenty more people like us that are doing the good work. So I really appreciate that. - Thank you. And I'm not gonna cry in front of all y'all. (laughing) - See you camera, though. (indistinct chatter) - I definitely appreciate it. On behalf of my team and I definitely appreciate it all. And that's really, if we're gonna go into our origin story, that's really what we were all about, especially when we started, 'cause there was a lot of individuals, like yourselves who would just get washed over, get ran over, just got told to put your face to the grindstone and just keep on grinding, just keep on doing it. And then you get told some type of anesthetic of a statement, like you keep at it and you'll get here. Or if you work hard enough, you get to choose where you get to sleep or something like that, right? I mean, maybe if everything plays out correctly and you know how to network to the point where like, you basically know everybody, but a good majority of us don't. And sometimes, you know, like taking that one step is almost insane. Like, I'm gonna start a podcast. You or I'm gonna go pick up flying lessons, excuse me? Or something like that. Like you hear all the, you hear enough of it. So the point where you psych yourself out of it, your inner voice becomes theirs, right? Or they become your inner voice. I set that backwards. And you almost like berate yourself to keep silent, to just shut up and... That part, I've experienced it on numerous occasions. This is amazing. Yeah, it's so isolating and it's so sad because you wanna share in your ideas. You have questions. You know, you wanna be able to celebrate your small wins. You want to be able to, you know, just have conversation with people, whether they're like minded or not, you know? I mean, you wanna, that's why we're all here is to have these experiences together. And it's so discouraging when you hit that wall. But I'm gonna give a brighter thought of it. You know, that's why we have people like us. And, you know, like a day could be going absolutely horrible. You know, in the past week, it could be like, you know, why is this happening? And, you know, why, you know, we're trying to do this event. Why did this family member pass away? And I got this going on and we go into the DMs and you're like, you guys are so cool. And I'm like, okay. - True. - You know, and it's just a small word of encouragement. But, you know, sometimes that's all we need. But sometimes we need a conversation, you know, we don't need to side out. We need, you know, hear me out. Listen, this is what I wanna try. This is what I wanna do. Meghan's gonna laugh at this. I know she is, but very recently I've gotten into Mounted Shooting, which is right on the horse. And you have two revolvers. And you're shooting. - That's awesome. - Correct, it's crazy. I love it. - It's crazy. And if people like, what do you do it, you know? And I'm like, if people out to my cowboy events and stuff, if people like Toya, you're nuts. And, you know, it's just like, you know, give me a chance, you know, give us a chance. It's fun. If it's not your thing, it's not your thing. But, you know, to open our eyes to the different, you know, realities in the world or the different hobbies in the world, it's fun. I enjoy it. I enjoy it. - 100%. - I'm happy for her. I'm just really scared to ride horses. - I'm scared to be behind a horse of everything. - Obviously that is way more scary. - Yeah. - But I love it. Like it makes her happy, so I'm happy. - Yeah, absolutely. And that's what I feel is the overall culture with everything that you guys are making. And thanks for including us. And to that mix too. Really appreciate it. My chest, I'm not gonna cry for all of you. - Oh. - But it's sometimes it all it takes is that you guys are awesome. You guys did this. Ooh, what did you do today? That is cool. Or did you tell that other person to go step off, you know, like some little thing that just gives you that small win, right? And what we've noticed, especially from our backgrounds, both aviation and otherwise, is if you give someone a small win and you give them enough of it, it becomes contagious. - Absolutely. - It starts accumulating. And then they start seeing like, inches start turning into miles. Even though it's one inch at a time or half of an inch at a time, or whatever the case may be, one little grain of sand, over time it accumulates and it compounds it. Next thing you know, like, "Oh my God, look at this thing." And you don't realize how much you've been carrying or how far you went until someone just points it out randomly and just says, "Hey, you guys did an amazing event. We want to do it again next year." Oh, by the way, do you guys want to come to this convention? - Yeah. - Where did that come from? - And it's exactly what's been going on. It's snowballs so quickly, you know? And it's exciting. It's an exciting ride. - It is because it's so funny. Like, snowball is the perfect one. The only next level would be, I guess, would be avalanche. It's going to be a way larger expected. I think what we expected, like. - Let's go. - It's definitely going to come. I promise to all of you, it's going to come. I am 100% assured that your goals are going to come. - Oh, thank you. - You're going to compound to the point where it's going to be like this glacial shift. Like, continents are drifting. Like, what is going on in that way? - It's not like dust blowing in the wind. It's like whole continent shifting. And we can attest just from the amount of innovation you have all put into your organizations and to your endeavors, the amount of time that it's happened and the amount of draw that it's bringing. I mean, inspiring is too soft a word. If someone out there listening, please put it in the comments. - What's a bigger impactful word than inspiring? Because that's what's happening right now. - You have to make me that word. (laughing) - I can't. - That's beautiful. - Thank you. Y'all are just like showering us with so much blessing. - We needed it. Thank you so much. - And encouragement, you know. It's like, thank you. Like, seriously, I agree 100% with Toya because it's empowering to us and it's uplifting. And I think one of our teammates actually put it in perspective too for us, Sarah. She is like, you're birthing a baby. (laughing) - Yeah, she asked us how long has it been since you've been working on it? And she said, yes, that's how long it takes to give birth. And so like, we love the perspective. And the hope is that it literally uplifts in a way that people have never been uplifted before. And we will see the outcome and we will see the roots. 'Cause someone like, I think it was you, Mody. So like, we're the roots, right? And that's such a great question. Oh my gosh, but we are planting some firm roots with the beginning of food culture. And we pray that it becomes the overall culture because that's what we should be to one another. So I think that as we move forward, we will continue to uplift each other, encourage each other and try to like break out of that self doubt. You were kind of talking about earlier six in our own minds because I've like started flying again incrementally. I haven't been able to be consistent. So with anything by coming back from an injury, when you get knocked down, when you go back, it's your hesitant, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think all of us have come back from an injury (laughing) before, or you've, you know, not done well and had to repeat something, something, you know what I mean? And sometimes when you have to go back, it's a little more difficult because you've experienced it, you know what I mean? Like, sometimes I'm like very much, I would rather not know it all than have known and then have to do it over. And so I've been personally battling some levels of self doubt, right? And the thing about self doubt is you'd never know how it will manifest in your actions, right? And so I'm going to openly say my favorite part of flying is what I've been struggling with the most as I've returned to flying and finishing up my license and my favorite part was landing and still is landing, but I am trash at him (laughing) and it's mainly because of the manifestation of my own doubt in certain aspects because I'm repeating this thing that I was so close to completing. So anybody that flies, you know how it is, you hit the pattern and, you know, downwind based, if you fly, you already know and you're coming in for finals. So I'm cool when we're coming in for final, but it's right as we get above the ground to flare, to actually finish landing, that I'm telling my instructor, no, you take the plane. - Right. - I'm like, you take the plane, take it. (laughing) I'm still flying though, 'cause we not going, but mentally I'm like saying this to myself, but I'm also telling them I'm still flying, but I'm like, I think you should finish landing, right? And I think as we move forward in these instances of supporting each other, supporting ourselves and how these things play out with others and how they play out with us, it's important to uplift each other. It's important to encourage each other because all of us have these kinds of battles, right? And so with that, I've been, even through this event, we've been pushing through all of these different things for it to come to fruition. So it's like, I'm telling myself this every day, that's what I'm saying. You're really seeing the manifestation of pushing, right? Because we would be out here all day if we talked about all the things that have happened while we've been planning. But I share that example to say that one, we all go through things, but also you can push through it, right? Keep showing up, keep doing it. You know what I mean? Keep trying it regardless and eventually, right? You'll build, it's a muscle. I don't think people look at us and they see us and all the accomplishments we have between all four of us sitting here, Marisa, Siggs, Toya, Milla, right? And people don't realize we've had to push through so many things. They see the podcast out, they see the event coming up and they don't realize there are days where you weren't as confident. - Now there's so many days that I came up with Brian. It's like, man, I am I good enough. You know, there are many times I can really 100% to like passing the controls off in those little moments where you're like, you met that threshold of your comfort zone. But then there's a point where it's like, I need to push through this eventually, right? Because I need to strengthen this comfort zone. I need to make it bigger. And I need to push past it. So then I can teach other people once they hit that barrier or what it's like. Because I don't ever want to lose my compassion. I don't ever want to forget that I was once a beginner. And now I have a little bit more experience and I'm a little bit more comfortable and the guy or girl sitting next to me. And it's like, yeah, I completely resonated with me really deeply. So thank you for sharing that. - Thank you. I can think of a separate, similar but different example, not aviation related. It kind of goes into the messaging piece of everything that we do. Both like culture, journey, right, women, rock, wings, sky, mommy, lounge, canceled for maintenance, all that. Like when you put out a message so much and you're really, you're really passionate about this. Like this is our thing. This is what we want to do. This is what we're about. And I say this as an example for all four of us, but this really can be anybody with that one thing that they're just really struggling to really put across the table. Like you're trying to really send it home and no one's understanding or no one's buying it or no one's whatever. And you get into this point where like, am I just shouting into the void here? Right? Yeah, it's just the black hole of like your efforts to go into this black hole just disappears forever just to get crushed into some mismangled thing that's totally unrecognizable. And that kind of goes into the self-doubt piece as similar to the landing, right? And this is kind of like the reason why we paid for it to you guys and why we paid for it to everybody else and why we really want this to be contagious is because like for us example, we shout into the void. Like we get the black hole feels like, oh man, can we just hang it up? You know, like just call it quits. And then somebody just throws a random compliment. Somebody anywhere, some random like high five, just even just a high five of nowhere just like high fives, dude, I don't know what that was for, but thank you. Right? And that's what really gets you. And that's what kind of keeps that gas going for that extra inch. And then you hear it again, and you hear it again, and you hear it again, and next thing you know, like, you know what we can do this? I do know what I'm doing. I am right in what I am feeling, you know, not just the negatives, but also the positives of what I expect to do. And that's what I really want to send home from all three of our guests here, or our three of our collabs here, is the examples that they have proven and what they've shown with fly culture, with their efforts, with women rock wings, with sky mommy lounge, with the grants, the scholarships, the mentorships, the amazing, impactful guest speakers and all that, is they're being that one feedback, that one high five, or that one smile from the void, they're saying it is not a wasted effort. It is not an invalid feeling. It is not the end. I don't know how else to say that, I'm getting goosebumps, I'm giving myself goosebumps. - They're not, I literally have tears in my eyes. - You know, it's beautiful. I mean, you're speaking, I know, I don't know if Marisa's a mom yet, and you know, we're all like mothers to people in our own right, our fathers, mentors, and all of the above aunties, uncles, whatever the case may be, but just on what you're speaking on right now, you know, I've raised seven kids over my years. And I have two of my own, and you know, just beating that into them is just, that's been like my, like my mission, my little passion, you know, just to keep going. Don't wake up in a panic and throw it all away, you know? Keep at it with support, with education, with a vacation here and there, because it does get a little overwhelming. Just keep at it, you know, and keep your dreams and your goals alive. Be loyal and committed to your dreams, you know? So we, I was telling Megan another thing, I think I typed it in the DMs, I don't know what happened, but I was like, we have a thing, you know? It's like these reinforcing moments, that's like, dude, we literally have a thing, like it is a reality, it's real, you know, and one other point I wanted to make was Megan and I was spending some time just going over some, some misses or some disappointments, if you will, some relationships that didn't completely connect the way that we, you know, thought that they would. And we got off the phone and we kind of started, it literally happened today, we was prepared ourselves to come on and speak with you guys. And literally before I like connected with six today, Megan like DMs meet this incredible message from someone that, you know, we're gonna meet up with Essence and, you know, you don't count yourself out, don't count your relationships out, you know, I don't think we'll ever do that. And we're, I think way too far beyond counting ourselves out at this point, you know, but even in the beginning, stages in the baby steps of something brand new and never heard of before, just keep going. - Your people will find you, place the energy out there, absolutely. - You must stay well. - Yeah. - I love it all. - And you're, I don't need to pancake flat on that one. Your people will find you, your inspiration will find you. Your reason, well, I mean, your extra reasons will find you. I'm gonna say your reason 'cause the one thing that we all definitely stress to anyone out there listening is know your why and fall in love with it. This is my why, this is why I do it. Oh, this is that little glint in someone's eye when they finally, when it clicks, like, yes, that's it. That's why, right? Or you finally get that, you can finally get their certificate in your hand or those wings or whatever the case, whatever your goal was. And you finally, and you finally become the tainies, like, this is my why. Or at least it's a step to your why, right? 'Cause we all have to have some type of intangible versus just like, oh, I just wanna be a pilot. Well, why do you wanna be a pilot? Or why do you wanna be an aviation? Because I wanna innovate, I wanna trailblaze, I wanna be free. I wanna, I wanna do-- - There's the-- - Yes. - Yes, absolutely. - They're all reasons. - They're all reasons, yeah, absolutely. And you know, how cool is it to be a part of the aviation community and it actually elevates yourself, the commitment that you have to yourself, you know? And that's kind of what I found. And it, I trust myself a lot more, I believe in myself a lot more. I know a lot of people will probably, you know, look at me on Instagram, look at my videos and maybe meet me in person or at the airport and they're wondering, you know, like, in their own skin and their own brain, like, why is she doing this? I wonder, you know, what's her purpose? What's her reason? And, you know, on social media, I love those little windows of opportunity when I can just put right in people's faces why I'm doing it, whether it's, you know, through a real or through, you know, a live or, you know, a story, just being extremely upfront and letting people know 100%, I'm doing this for the culture, you know, for the people. Megan and I have spent days, and the team, we've spent days not only reaching out to corporations and companies and small businesses, but also reaching out to organizations. And I'm not gonna name the organization specifically, but it is an all-girls organization, you know, parents are going through some things and, you know, they use this organization to come together and uplift and educate and we reached out to them and I found them on social, you know, just kind of looking at their pictures and reading their story, reading their mission and invited them out. And their response to us was, no one has ever invited us out anywhere. No one has ever reached out to, and it blew my mind, you know, because they're well put together. You know, the girls are young, it's our youth, they're our future, you know, why not reach out to these organizations, these adults are pouring time into these kids and provide, you know, opportunity for them or an atmosphere or an environment that they may have never seen before, you know. And while we're focusing on STEM and military at our event, Megan and I made it a big, big, huge point to bring in the luxurious side of things and to highlight the luxurious side of living. And a lot of our partners, you know, we have the luxury girls golf team coming out. We have a well-life integrative where they do hydration, IV drips, I mean, just really self-care, the holistic part of life, not just, you know, career-based or hobby-based, but just holistically and focusing on health and mental health. We're touching everyone. We're reaching out to it all. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And it's great. - We're just excited. I still can't believe it in some ways, not because we didn't do the work, but it's just beautiful to see the pieces come together. And like she said, touching on all of these aspects and inviting those young ladies and, you know, inviting the girl scouts and inviting Ramanola and inviting the Y and making sure that we really, you know, we invited churches, their communities, their congregations to experience the STEM portion of the event and the rent display and engaging with, like you said, military and CN pilots and aviators from different career fields that look like them and can speak to them and their experiences. And it was very, very important to us to make sure that happened. So they can have different stories than we had. - Correct. - Correct. - You know what I mean? So it's very exciting. The funny thing is, of course, we're excited about the brunch and proceeds from the tickets, of course, are going back into the foundation of fun more grants, but the luxury part, we are very hype about that. But I am excited. There's nothing like seeing excited children and them having a good time and just enjoying their youth and their innocence. And so I am very thrilled about that part and just seeing them have some fun and our vendors too. So it's exciting and I'm, like all of us have supported, like the level of support, the two of you, Marisa and six have provided, it's unmatched and we're so grateful and we, I know six can't make it, but I can't wait to meet you too, but Marisa, I cannot wait to meet you in person. I know the... - I'll continue. I mean, I'll continue to support you guys, no matter what. I'm already excited for this to just be an annual event. Like with my measly 1,000 followers, I will support you. - Oh my God, girl, my life. - My life, my life. (laughing) - That's amazing. - That's amazing. - You don't understand how fangirl I am over you. It's like a real live black highlight. - I think that's just so freaking beautiful that we're fangirling over each other and we all have three different experiences. It's just so incredible. Like four different experiences if he counts six, but he's not a girl, so. - Yeah, yep. - I'm gonna put this as a hallmark moment right now because he's like, oh, me and my 1,000 followers, us and our little event or whatever. I'm gonna mark this now. So two, three years down the road when you guys are too famous to even be friends of us. You're like, hey, you guys are all passing by and you're limous and stuff. You're like in the background, like five blocks deep. - Hey. - Oh my god, that's incredible. - Who is that? - I got to hear you. Get out of here with your trash. (laughing) - July 1st, 2024, are we gonna mark this day? (laughing) - Yeah. Don't forget the ones who supported us on our come up. Don't worry. - Exactly. - I gotta say, fine. You guys give past me your martini glass. Like, I'm the waiter and the waiter. - No. - Go ahead. - Never. - Okay. (laughing) - Glory to the deaf for me. How I play that? Absolutely not. (laughing) - Absolutely not. - Marisa, do you have anything else? Any other questions that have been highlighting in your mind as we were talking? - Yeah, actually, this question's for you, Siggs. If you're not gonna be at flight culture, what are you gonna be at? Like, why aren't you-- - Oh my god. (laughing) - This is the event of the summer. - Oh! - I'm gonna be impressed. That's where I'm gonna be. - I know. - Oh my god. - No, it was more of a life-fun question. - Oh. - It wasn't poking. I mean, it's your business, but I was just saying, hey, this is gonna be-- (laughing) And you're just, anybody who's anybody's gonna be there. So, what's your excuse? - I mean, listen, listen. My name starts with Mr. Not Senator, not General, not President, not King, or any of those high flancing. I mean, it's definitely something I would love to come with, or come and be around. My team would love to be there. That's kind of like one of our major goals for our show is to show up more, be more physically present. Because like everyone, like we having that social media presence is definitely fun. It's definitely cool hearing people interact and hearing messages. It's a completely different experience when I fight with each other in person. And we did manage to experience a little bit of that, but we're still generally unknown to majority of people. So like when people do notice us, or at least no of us, it's kind of like, why are you looking at me? (laughing) - Actually, that reminds me, I did have a follow-up question for you. So what can we expect from you and your team for the podcast awards coming up? - Oh yeah, that's a great question. - That's a great question, because I was like, I'm looking at it. - Yeah, I mean, I would definitely love for all of y'all to vote for us. We're actually-- - Actually, we've been already done. - We're actually in five categories this year, which is amazing. - We're here right now. - We're in five categories this year, which is amazing. I mean, for us to even be in awards is something else. And knocking, I mean, not knocking on wood, but it's very humbling to be known as the only aviation-related podcast in that entire awards. Two years in a row, we've been, we're the only ones-- - That's impressive. - You know, so-- - It really is, wow. - It kind of, it really makes the chest burn a little bit. - Yeah, yeah. - Like, not just aviation. So we're basically representing all of you at this point. And not just being aviation, but also, like for the lesser-known people, like the mechanics, the clerks, the specialists, the lawyers in the back, the supply person picking stuff up from who knows where. All those other known-name people are all getting represented by us. And it's something else. I'm like, I didn't think we'll ever get this far. But what can you really expect for us? I mean, if we win, cool, if we don't, we're still gonna do what we do and be helping everybody out as best we can, as much as we can. And again, a goal for us to just be present, be more physically there for people. - I love that goal. That's an amazing goal. - That's a great goal. - Looking out for y'all. - That's a great goal. - That's incredible. - Appreciate it. It's not making me cry for all you. (laughing) - It is a great goal though. - I appreciate it all. - I love that you're representing aviation too. I think that's just wonderful. - It's definitely something else. And just like all of y'all, you're representing not just aviation, you're representing yourselves, you're representing the cultures that you want to manifest, the cultures that you want to be adopted. And one of those things, it's definitely one where you gotta be the change. You gotta be the example. And then others eventually don't pick up on it. It becomes contagious. It becomes a movement, then it becomes normal. And then sometimes down the road, they'll just be like, they won't even know that there was any type of gaps. They'll just be like, this is us now. This is what we are. But being the ones to actually be crazy, to take that extra step, to dare to be different. - Yeah. - To be honest, just dare to be different. Just like, just try it. We ball, try it. - I love that. - I love that. - Coming all of that, it takes a different kind of heart. It takes a different kind of soul to do that. - It does. - And especially to do it when everyone else tells you not to. - Yeah. - We can relate to some extent, but not to the degree that all of y'all face. - Yeah. - And that is definitely something we want to pass on to all of you here, listening for all four corners of our outlets. You gotta be the one. Sometimes you gotta be your own example. You gotta be. - That's right. - You gotta be the trailblazer. And sometimes, that's what really takes. I'm gonna be the first. I'm gonna be the one to make it happen. I'm gonna be the example. Maybe not in a good way. Maybe not say it to yourself that way, 'cause that might be anxiety-inducing for some of us, some of us ADHD people. But when you see the challenges presented to you, you don't look at the numbers. As you all have said previously, you don't look at the numbers. You just see the wall, and you see yourself, and you envision yourself over the wall. That's it. - That's right. - That's it? - That's it. You know what I mean? Or in the sky, whatever. - Hey, we change the numbers by doing it ourselves. - Being go, yes, thank you. So my final question for y'all is, what advice would you give for someone listening right now who's been considering aviation, or trying something new, or some other endeavor that they've never heard of before? - Ooh, great question. I'm glad I'm not gonna have to go first this time. - Okay, I'll go first. (laughs) So I guess what I would say, I think we spoke about this a little bit earlier, put in the application, and then celebrate that you put in the application, and celebrate every little small win in victory, because in your life, like that's the highlight of your life and your legacy. And if you don't celebrate that, you don't take that moment to really say, "Hey, I actually did that thing I wanted to do," you lose sight of your why. And you just, you'll just start feeling like you're inviting like part of the team. So it's like, take the time to say, "Hey, I submitted the application "and shared on social media, hit us up." Say, "Hey, I put the application in." I'll be like, "Hell yeah, brother, sister. "I hope you get it 'cause you deserve it." Let me know when your selection date is, or whatever the case may be, because that right there can make or break our community in the culture we're trying to represent. So just wanna keep uplifting everybody. - I love that I have the same advice. I'm always super encouraging. I was out at a community event two weekends ago, and an unassuming person came up to me in a field of thousands of people, and they were like, "Toya!" And I was like, "What, how are you?" They were like, "I'm great. "Guess what, you inspired me?" And I was like, "What did I aspire you to do? "What's going on?" And they were like, "I'm flying." And I was like, "You gotta be kidding me, that's amazing." And it was the brother of the person that the whole show, that all the hundreds of thousands of people was there to see. And these are friends that I know from back in the day, and it was just amazing to hear him say that I inspired him to take that step. And my response was, "Hey, when do you fly next? "And where are you flying?" And he let me know, and I was like, "I'm coming." And he was like, "You gonna come for real?" And I said, "For real, like for real, for real, I'll come." Yeah, so yeah, so that's what I'm all about. I'm all about real life support. And I tell people, if you wanna go up, I'll take you up with me. I'll come to your city, like, "I don't care. "We'll make it work." To make the inspiration happen, because I know what it feels like not to have inspiration in so many different walks of life that I've experienced firsthand. So, goaling is another recommendation that I would make. Write down your goals. I'm right there with Marisa with celebrating. I'm like the celebration queen. If I land the plane when I'm getting down, I'm going to Starbucks, and I'm getting my favorite drink. You know, and I'm buying whatever audio I need to record when I'm up there, because when I get home and I'm sitting and I'm thinking about how my day went, I'm making a reel of all of what happened in the sky and letting people know. So, yeah, just being an example, being available to people, and just being positive. - Yeah, they can't be in positive. - Yeah. So-- - Make all the phenomenal answers. (laughing) It's like, what do you come up with after that? But for me, having to have been a cheerleader to uplift and sit back and literally have so many obstacles to finishing this goal that I had set before me has allowed me to remember to not give up on yourself. When you don't give up on yourself, you free yourself, and you will, and you free others in the process, because they see you not giving up on yourself, and it reminds them that they too cannot give up on themselves. So, I would encourage a person wanting to start out because with anything in life, whether it's aviation or anything, you will hit obstacles and your will be down, right? It is a choice to get back up, and I would like highly suggest choosing not to give up on you. Every day, choose you in the most loving way, not in a way that discourages others, but in a way that allows you to shine so other people know that they can shine too. - That's right. - Move of it. - Beautiful. - Yeah. - And my final advice for everybody is without having to repeat everything that they said. (laughing) And pounding the pancake flat is definitely get into a habit of exercising some sympathetic grounding. And it's basically the same thing as Megan said, like get into the habit of changing that tone of voice with your inner self, right? Instead of saying why I can't start giving reasons why you should or why you can't. I can do this because I've done this. I can do this because I was able to do all of these and so forth and so forth. And getting used to cataloging your successes versus your failures, it makes you want to compound it even more, regardless of what it is. So that's definitely my final advice for everybody. - Thank you so much. - Wow, that was beautiful. - I trust it. - I'm going to like write in my journal after this episode. - Look, Megan, you know I'm sitting here with a notebook in a pen. Like y'all are amazing. I've been taking notes. - I literally have tears. I'm like, but the person at Pormos, I know we're in there, but I just want to throw out six, how you have like maintenance term even in your advice. He said sympathetic grounding and cataloging. And I'm like, wow, I just, yeah, this has been very uplifting. I just want to thank all three of you. Thank you, thank you. - Thank you. - Thank you, thank you. - Thank all of you. And I try, sometimes you know every once in a while the broken clock works and it comes over and they go, like, wow, even now as we replay in the future when I listen back to the zebra like, who the heck was talking out? That was not me. I did not come out of my mouth. - That was one line. - That was definitely. - Those are my words, who is manifesting themselves into me and talking through my mouth. - That's the gift of energy. That's the gift of networking. And that's the gift of sharing. It just creates such amazing powers and amazing energy. And, you know, I'm glad to be a part of this conversation. I can't wait to go back and listen and just be re-inspired over and over. This is absolute perfect timing for us to have this conversation with you guys. Marisa, I know we're going to see you so very soon, darling, I am just thrilled. Thank you so much, Six, for this opportunity. We truly, truly appreciate it. - I'm not a problem. Thank you guys all for giving us the opportunity of collaborating and then speaking of networking, where can we all find each of you? - So, I can go first. I'm on Instagram @toypilot, T-O-Y-Y pilot. And our official page for fly culture is official fly culture. Stay tuned for a lot more to come. - Oh, wow, yeah. (laughs) I guess I'll find you if you want to follow me, if you want to follow me on my personal page, it is take off with Megan. Megan is spelled M-E-A-G-A-N. And then, of course, women rock wings at W-O-M-E-N-R-O-C-K-W-I-N-G-S. - Yes, yes. - And you can find me in the Sky Mommy Lounge on YouTube @SkyMommy or wherever you get your podcasts. - That's right. - Right, that's right. All day, only on days that ended right. - All day. - And then, for all of those on the women rock wings foundation page, fly culture, Sky Mommy Lounge, Journey Ride L-O-C, you can find Cancer for Maintenance at Instagram at thanks that's C-A-N-X for maintenance podcast. And then everywhere else, it's as the name, Cancel for Maintenance. You can find us on Facebook, Instagram. I think we're on X still, Twitter X, I think. I think I'm not sure. There's also our website, same name. That only does at the.com. And wherever you listen to your podcasts, hey, let us know what you guys all think. What sort of stuff would inspire you to take that next step? What sort of things are you currently struggling with? Have you met the four of us? Or technically, that'd be six of us? 'Cause of the other two. - I love it. - Have you met us? Have you followed us? Have you had your positive affirmation today? If not, feel free to stop by. We get, we dole them out, like it's cool. 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