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WINTER CLASSIC, NFL AWARDS & PLAYERS FUTURES (12/31)

Joe Ostrowski and Sam Panayotovich continue to deep dive into the NFL Awards markets heading into Week #18, including if the Coach of the Year award has already been decided, a toss up for Defensive Player of the Year and more! Plus, bets for today's Winter Classic in the NHL, with the Blues taking on the Blackhawks. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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16m
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31 Dec 2024
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Joe Ostrowski and Sam Panayotovich continue to deep dive into the NFL Awards markets heading into Week #18, including if the Coach of the Year award has already been decided, a toss up for Defensive Player of the Year and more! Plus, bets for today's Winter Classic in the NHL, with the Blues taking on the Blackhawks.

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If it was at Lincoln Way East High School, I'm not going to that crap. No. No interest. Joe is attending more local high school games in the past 365 than pro sporting events in Chicago. I did get a text last night from one of my buddies, who I love dearly, and he sends me the ticket master screenshot, and it's five prices ranging from $350 to $500. And he sends that screenshot and says, "What do you think?" "Question mark." And I responded, "Lose this number." No. Sorry. No. Sorry. No. So you're missing out on, well, South Carolina, Illinois, whatever, Baylor, LSU. Okay. Sure. I'm definitely missing the first half of Penn State Boise State to go to the north side. And probably the entire game, I guess you go out afterwards. The bars will be hopping. No, I have no interest. I, who are they playing? Joe, you want to go to old crow? Let's go. Me, you and Sammy go. We go to old crow after. Great. No. They're playing the St. Louis Blues. If you would like a price since this is a better show, the Blackhawks are probably the worst team in hockey right now. The Blues. I met the Blues. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing special. I mean, they're, they're 500. Oh, yeah. I did. I did. Chance the rappers performing, right? Oh, great. Yeah. That'll get me there. And, um, St. Louis minus, minus 145 at Betam GM. And the total is five and a half. Good. Pass. Yeah. Good. Pass. And that was talking hockey. Let's do that. Hockey. It is smart to bring chance because he had that classic SNL bit. Um, yeah. So we're good. Hockey season has not begun in our world and the winter classic is today. Good for them. That is the one, one of the dumb things though too, like it is a great time in football. Super college football fan at all, like you don't want to miss any of this. And yeah, they're not doing it on New Year's Day when you have three playoff games, but they are doing it basically against one playoff game. They're like, Oh, we're doing it earlier. Yeah. But if I go to the game, I'm going to probably miss most of the playoff game. Not interested. I'm good. We got enough going on. All right. I was going to make a price to on you. Sorry. I was going to make a price on you being out of your house tonight at eight p.m. or later. The no. I'm going to go. Yeah. Minus infinity. The no. Minus infinity. Yeah. I'm going. No, I'll be out. Oh, I would have lost a lot of money on that. But the question is, well, not not at a bar going to say I'm not going anywhere. I'm going nowhere tonight. I want to be asleep by eight o'clock. The game won't be over then. So if you're going out, do you wait for the game to end or do you kind of catch it in the background the second half? Penn State Boise depends how it's going, depends how it's going. So I'll go out, I don't know what time, but I'll say got to work and then I'll go out like at halftime depending how it's going or maybe after the game. We'll see. It's Penn State Boise. I don't think it's going to be the most exciting game, but we do lean Boise as far as it gets the spread goes. What after last night, do you think there's any way lions win last week next week, they get the one and they end up saying, let's just give it to Campbell, coach of the year. O'Connell is my vote, if I had a vote, talked about it for a month. I'm trying to handicap the voters. I mean, O'Connell's such a massive favorite now. It's hard to bet into this market at this point, you know, he's $15, $16 to win. Minus, obviously. It's hard for me to think that a coach who took a team with a pre-season win total of six and a half and had to reinvent Sam Darnold. It's hard for me to believe that guy doesn't win the award narrative-wise. I also like, if Andy Reed can't win the award for always having a good team, how can Dan Campbell win it for being an NFC Championship team last year? Look, and I give Campbell a lot of flack and people don't like that. I think he's going to cost them a big game in the playoffs. I respect him. I do. I'm not saying he's a bad coach. I just think he's an awful decision maker. Both things can be true. I would not bet Dan Campbell. What's the best price? 8 to 1 now in the market? The problem with these markets going into the final week is that what the books do is that they just, they're willing to give you these guys away. They're willing to give you guys at 8 to 1, 12 to 1, 14 to 1, because they just need a couple of people to think value, look at the value, and burn $20, $50, $100, and if they can burn 10 people, that's a $3,000. If they can burn more, the money adds up, but how many people do you know that are going to look at this number and go, "Wow, that's a good price on Campbell," and he's probably not going to win. This is that time where you make the favorite expensive and then jack the price up on every dog and just hope that people bet these perceived valuable numbers. That's all this is. You can make Dan Campbell 15 to 1. I don't think he's winning. This market feels over to me at least. O'Connell checks every box that we look for and that when we handicap this award year after year, so I do think it's going to be O'Connell. I do believe that he locked it up this past week against the Green Bay Packers. Now for MVP, we talked about the idea of burrow and how the number went from $2.50 down to $30 to $1, and what Troy Eggman had to say in the Monday Night Football broadcast, that I'm sure a lot of people were paying attention to, but we haven't talked that much about what's happening at the top. Josh Allen Lamar, that MGM is Josh Allen minus $300 Lamar plus $2.25. The bills have nothing to play for on Sunday. The Ravens have the three seed and the division to play for. And when you look at the stats, total yards, Lamar has almost 600 more total yards in Josh Allen. Lamar has three more total touchdowns than Josh Allen, but Josh Allen is minus $300. 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I mean, you're better at these markets than I am. I feel very good saying that. I mean, you had some monsters this year. Yeah, but at this point in the season, I just think they're all over for the most part. I think they're all over. I think the favorites win most of these awards, and that's not exactly a hot take. I don't know, I mean, I don't know that I would bet Lamar at $2.50 or $2.75. It just feels like Josh Allen, given all that he lost, given all the weapons that he lost to get this team to this position, it feels like he's done enough. He's been incredible this year. And he's the reason they are where they are same for Lamar, obviously Lamar is the straw that stirs the drink in Baltimore. But man, I mean, they're Bill Simmons before the season saying like, Oh, Buffalo's missed their chance. The windows closed. These were takes from people like they don't have receivers. Yeah. There's no words. I mean, he's he's and he doesn't have the gaudy numbers that burrow has. But if you look at their schedule and look at all their big wins, he's been the most important factor in basically every win this season. And that's what the MVP is. I'm fascinated to see how the voting plays out in the comeback player of the year again. Not saying it's a great award to bet. We've talked throughout the year when he was good, good odds why you needed to bet burrow burrows minus three seventy five of Betam GM. That's the best price I see. I see up to minus five hundred for burrow to be the comeback. But I'm fascinated by it because it's burrow or it's darnold. And the rule change in the summer basically said, don't vote for darnold. Darnold's going to get votes. Is it going to be enough to overtake burrow? That's the question. You talk about comeback, Sam Darnold, his career was dead. He was labeled a bust, multiple stops. And now his career has been saved. And now there are Viking fans having a real conversation. Do we trade JJ McCarthy? Do we lock up this guy long term? Like what do we do now? Because they've had so much success with Sam Darnold. He's going to get votes, man. And for a good chunk of the year, there are a number of sports books that removed him from the comeback player of the year market. And now they all have him back up. I still, last year's comeback player of the year with the guy that died on the field not winning the award for me, it made it an unbedible market for me. Because I have no idea what the voters are going to do. No idea, there is no definition or there has it been, I guess, there technically is now. But is there, is there a definition? Are they going to follow it? Do they care? Yeah, I'm just really interested in that one. We know Saequan is going to be the offensive player of the year. That was a great hit by you. You talked about that during the summer on this show, why you love that up for grabs. DPOY still, I mean, TJ Watt, he's been the favorite throughout the year, but we're talking minus 1.15 at Betam GM. The market's saying it's going to be Watt or it's going to be Sir Tan. And then the way that Sir Tan has played, the teams are obviously avoiding him. Steelers falling apart down the stretch wouldn't surprise me if it ends up going to Sir Tan. Offensive rookie, we know that's going to Daniels. And then the defensive rookie, a little bit up for grabs as well. Joe Osamie, we're going to get back to college football and the four playoff games with our guy Brad Powers. He drops by next. This is the Betquan Network.
Joe Ostrowski and Sam Panayotovich continue to deep dive into the NFL Awards markets heading into Week #18, including if the Coach of the Year award has already been decided, a toss up for Defensive Player of the Year and more! Plus, bets for today's Winter Classic in the NHL, with the Blues taking on the Blackhawks. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices