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NFL FUTURES (12/31)

Joe Ostrowski and Sam Panayotovich take a deep dive into the NFL Futures market prior to the last week of the regular season, and discuss if anyone outside of Josh Allen can take home the MVP, how will Vikings vs Lions in Week #18 effect the NFC Title Odds and Playoff Picture, plus more! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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31 Dec 2024
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Joe Ostrowski and Sam Panayotovich take a deep dive into the NFL Futures market prior to the last week of the regular season, and discuss if anyone outside of Josh Allen can take home the MVP, how will Vikings vs Lions in Week #18 effect the NFC Title Odds and Playoff Picture, plus more!

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We mentioned that with the college football playoff starting tonight, a bunch of interesting games going on today, and of course, the other three games. New Year's Day tomorrow. Happy New Year's Eve to everybody listening, everybody watching, betqlnetwork.com for the Odyssey app. Watch us Twitch.tv/betql, follow the show on X @betql daily. All right, Sam, we mentioned that Detroit is the second favorite Kansas City, the favorite now for the Super Bowl KC plus 375 Detroit plus 460. That's the best price that I see out there. Then we get to Buffalo and Baltimore rounding out your top four. Not a surprise to anyone. Philly comes in as the fifth favorite, second best in the NFC at plus 750, Minnesota plus 900. This is where it gets interesting. So I just named the top six all nine to one or shorter. Then there's a big drop off. Then it gets the tier of Packers, Rams, and then a massive drop off down to 40 to one from 16 to one with your bucks, your chargers, your commanders. What do you think about the very top? How they ordered this with Casey Detroit, Buffalo, Baltimore, Philly? Is that right? It makes sense. I mean, it all makes sense given the math and given the home field at least for now, but I think the one team that's still very interesting in terms of pliability or flexibility with the number is Minnesota, Minnesota. What happens if Minnesota beats Detroit and where does the number go? So, you know, you can find them MGM. You said nine to one. Other books have double digit odds. If they beat Detroit and they have the one seed, get the buy and every home game will be in their building until they lose or win whatever. What's the price then? If Minnesota beats Detroit, what's the number? Because you have Detroit as the favorite in the NFC and the second favorite to win the whole thing for one reason, not because of the roster, because of their path. And right now Detroit controls its destiny. Beat Minnesota, you have the one. But if that doesn't happen in a coin flip game, that Minnesota price is going to go from 10 to one all the way down, five to one, four 75. I don't know that you flip them in terms of let's put Minnesota on the true line to win the whole thing. And let's put Detroit down online, what, six or whatever. I don't know that we're there because there is a lot of lion liability. People have been betting the lions since the summer to win the Super Bowl, to win the NFC. They don't need to write any more lion money. But where does the number go on Minnesota from nine 10 to one? Where does it go if they beat Detroit? Does Detroit if Detroit loses, they're the five? Okay. So that means what you're probably going to go to Tampa Bay in the first round. And then you're going to go to Minnesota. Okay, that's not easy. Does Detroit fall below Philly as the two Detroit, the five should just given the path. I mean, this is a huge scenario for them, which is why I mean, looking back and so dumb that they've played their starters. So dumb, calm. That's how we play football, you four eyed virgin. I'm like, okay, chill out, chill out. I'm going to need hearing aids by the end of the show. Like my ear is bleeding. It's it's Joey kinesh one of them. The kinesh come up about you. I know Joey kinesh muted. No, I have him muted. Um, good. I mean, it's just bet the favorite nerd. It's bet the favorite. Don't overthink it. Okay. Yep. Got it. One guy goes, all you do is money like the favorites this year until you do it. So you bet the NFL. Oh, yeah. Yeah, how that go in the first month. He's right. I mean, he's he probably has more money than I do this year. Um, maybe not though. I dude, I still like, I woke up this morning and thought he really did that. He really played all of his guys. Um, is there not okay, we were talking about it during the break. Is there another coach in the NFL that that's doing that last night? No, I don't think so. I can't come up with one. Nobody plays anybody in the preseason. Did he? Probably did. Probably played every the entire game. And I just feel like we've learned a lot. But we have a lot more intel now than we did, you know, even five years ago. And we know what the right thing is. Boy, he got out of it, call him Riverboat Ron, whatever he got out of it, it worked. But when you keep pressing your luck, there's going to be a time when a decision goes against you. It just feels like he has all these high leverage moments. And one of them, it's a fair point you continue to bring up. You keep going back to the lines, but you keep bringing this up because you see one of these high leverage moments going against him. And then that's when the tower collapses. They're going to have I'm trying to figure out what's the worst case scenario. And it's really difficult to imagine what it is, because we don't know how it's going to one full. But I picture something where the lions are up by two or three, they're at their own eight yard line. It's fourth and one. And they go for it. And don't get it. And the other team's like, you let us, let us waltz into the end zone from the eight yard line and win the NFC championship, you know, well, at least he's himself. I look, I will say this. Okay, I do make fun of him a lot. And he has his team playing the way that they're supposed to play. Good for that. Good for them. He's not Brandon Staley. Brandon Staley used to go any, any mining mo. Deciding whether or not to go forward or not. If you laid out 10 scenarios, Staley, it felt like would go half the time and then not go the other half. The one thing about Campbell is he is unapologetically himself. And people like that. People like that. He is who he is. And there's no doubting what he does. I still meant if I was a lion's fan right now, or somebody holding a lion's NFC or Super Bowl ticket, I would be terrified of that guy. They are who they are because of him in a lot of ways. But that, I believe, will be the end of their season because of the way he is. And we'll see how it plays out. I would love to see Minnesota win. Minnesota gets the one. They have that home field, which is phenomenal. And then it's Detroit at Tampa Bay in the wildcard round team they lost to in week two. Team that can stop the run. I would love to see that. Love to see that matchup. Not a, not a great home field for Tampa Bay. But now you're not hosting games for the most part unless things really fall your way. And that's been the thing. Golf indoors, golf at home. He's done well on the road recently. And that's probably something that is worth being discussed. Certainly last week at Chicago when people are like, Oh, it's golf outdoors, but from the cold, he was just fine. And then last night at San Francisco, played the entire game. It's going to be interesting. But yeah, no, this, based on that game on Sunday night, these numbers are going to change a lot. And who's going to be the third favorite in the NFC? I don't know. It might be Philly. I guess there's a chance it's Detroit if they end up being the five after being the favorite in the NFC all season long. It's really interesting. All right, we've got the NFC north to be decided, but the bucks are heavy favorites. So the bucks are in that minus 13 to minus 1400 range. And the Falcons boy, how big was that Sunday night finish? eight to one for the division. Tampa Bay has a one game lead. But if they end up tied, remember, Falcons sweep. So Falcons end up winning the division. It's worth taking a shot at eight to one. You need the Falcons to win in the bucks to lose. Attention sports enthusiasts, keep the adrenaline pumping and elevator game day with Chumba Casino. It's completely free to play. 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I assume you're not going to bet Atlanta to win the division, right? I mean, you're not. I'm not. I'm not. I don't. And then the only other one is you would need Baltimore to lose the Cleveland. Okay, maybe it's a conversation if they say, no, we're going to Jamis, not TTR. Then it's a conversation because Pittsburgh's 25 to one for the division. And we're talking about crazy things happen in this league. So you never know. But if Jamis, then we could have that conversation maybe later in the week. Well, I wanted to go here since we're talking futures in this segment. Did you catch what Troy Aikman said last night about the MVP? Yes. Yep. I did. He comes out on national television and says, he has a vote. He's voting for Joe Burrow to win the MVP. And I did a radio hit as I do every week in Vegas. I did one last night. And the host says, I bet Burrow 10 days ago at 201. And he says, I don't think it wins. But I had to pluck it. I had to bet the 200. And now you can find Burrow in that 20 to one 30 to one range. I don't know that it wins. But here's the thing about Burrow. And I think it's, I think it's fair. You can't find anybody, man, whether it be national TV, the newspapers, the internet, social media. Does anybody not like Joe Burrow? He is so, if you did a likeability test, he's in the 95 percentile. And every time the Bengals lose, it's the coach. It's the defense. It's the kicker. That guy can do no wrong. And I'm not saying like, like, drop everything we're doing and unload on Burrow to win the MVP. But there's something to be said about the way he's perceived and the way he's talked about. The numbers speak for themselves. He has MVP numbers. The problem is the team is very average. But he's not the reason for that. But he's been insanely successful this year. Troy Aikman, Monday night football, Joe Burrow is my MVP. I thought that was a wild, wild comment to me. How many times this year have I told you if the Bengals had a better record, he's no doubt the MVP a lot. Yeah. I mean, there's no doubt about it. I understand where Troy is coming from. And Troy, what Troy is also saying there, but he didn't want to do it in the middle of that game on a national platform. But what he's saying is, it's not Joe Burrow's fault that his defense sucks. It's not his fault. There's literally nothing he can do about it. The man is not on the field when that happens. That's what happened this year to their record. That's what happened in the first half of the season. There's an outside chance that they sneak in and we'll tell you how long how long the shot it is. But that was something. It looks like the Bengals are not going to make the playoffs. That's what common sense tells us going into the final week. Here's what we do know. Burrow is probably going to be the passing leader. He has about a 250 yard edge over golf right now. He's probably going to be the touchdown leader. He has a three touchdown lead over Baker and Lamar, 42 passing touchdowns. My God, if he has a big game on Sunday, he's going to hit 5,000. He's 300 in what 59 yards away. My math is correct. 359 away from 5,000. And he's got 40 plus touchdowns and single digit picks. He's the reason they even have a sniff of the postseason. Yep. And the voters want to make him an MVP. He's going to win an MVP at something like you're right. Everybody loves it so much. They like his hair. They like his outfit. I think he dresses like Ellen DeGeneres. But people love him. People love him. Like he can do no wrong and in a market and an award scenario where it's decided by people. That guy has a shot. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I didn't bet it. I don't really care. But when Troy Aikman says it, you have to pay attention. What would you rather bet? Burrow 30 to one MVP or Bengals playoffs 16 to one. Or are they correlated? Does he win the MVP if the Bengals make the playoffs? I still don't think he wins. But clearly the 200, the 150, the 100 to one were never the right price. That's great. The books, the books gambled and said he's not winning it. They're not making the playoffs. And they will get decked on that. If he does win the MVP, the books will get crushed. I still don't think it happens. But it's a hell of a story and it makes for a very fascinating market because you realize the price now is a lot lower than 100 and 200 to one. Late in the season, these monster numbers were not saying it's winning like Flacco last year. But that was week 13. Flacco was 200, 250 to one for the comeback player of the year. And look at Burrow now. Now, he's the fourth favorite behind Alan Lamar and Saquan Barkley. Joe O'Sammy P with you. You know, we got an interesting question about what to do with a free bet. We're going to address that and betting resolutions. Joe O'Sammy P, this is the Bequale Network.
Joe Ostrowski and Sam Panayotovich take a deep dive into the NFL Futures market prior to the last week of the regular season, and discuss if anyone outside of Josh Allen can take home the MVP, how will Vikings vs Lions in Week #18 effect the NFC Title Odds and Playoff Picture, plus more! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices