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Your only favorite that lost the Indianapolis Colts, a seven and a half point favorites at the Giants. Something we kept saying, boy, this seems like a lot. Boy, this seems like a lot. It was a lot. Neighbors had an unbelievable day. 14 and one straight up, but are they covering the number? You damn right, they're covering the number. These favorites go 12 and three against the spread. The only dogs to cover were the Bears plus four Arizona plus six and a half on Saturday. And then yesterday, the aforementioned Giants plus seven and a half. Like many books, I bet that the house cannot wait until the playoffs get going. Well, but the playoffs are usually favorites. Favorites usually win in the playoffs too, because most people decide, hmm, what will I do in this playoff game? Ah, I'll take the better quarterback and the better quarterback usually finds a way to win. 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Rewards are unrestricted bonus dollars that expire in seven days in partnership with Kansas Crossing Casino and Hotel. And it's that simple. And the guys bail out again. If you were down on Sunday and you bailed out on another prime time favorite, you were rewarded. These habits are not good. These habits don't usually win. But in the year of 2024, this has been the specialty for the public. The house needed commanders to not cover. The house needed commanders to lose outright. The house didn't get what it wanted. And I don't want to sit here and say, well, you know, we feel bad for the house because people that are listening and people that watch this show are trying to beat the house. But to just line up and favorite, after favorite, after favorite, especially on these Thursday night games and the Sunday night games and these Monday night games, it's been insanity. I don't ever remember a run like this. And Evan Abrams from the Action Network yesterday had a tweet that I read on the morning show with Costos on Sunday. Or actually, you're on the mornings with them mid mornings, I guess. You better you bet, count on the kickoff. And he said this was the third best season for favorites winning since 1980. Wow. Ah, yes. Of course it is just when cover most of the time, but just favorites when and favorites on the money line and favorites money line together in parlays. Simple. Can't put the numbers high enough. They can't. That's what it seems like right now. And not only that, it's you always have this debate where you're on the right side or right side wrong side, whatever happens, the winner is the winner. But it's also two of our five contest plays that we come together on Fridays. And we agree upon, we read the room and go over it. We come up with five sides that we'd like two of our five sides that we like Denver plus three and a half. They lose an overtime on a touchdown eventually. And then last night in Atlanta, we took them plus three and a half or four, whatever that number was. And then they lose an overtime on a touchdown. It's just like when you want to be holding a plus three and a half ticket when you're going to overtime. And both scenarios Saturday night and Sunday night, they end up being losers on those sides. So yeah, it's we've been talking about how difficult it is. You know, the other thing that stood out to me, it's not only all the favorites winning and the majority of them covering. But even all these one, one and a half point favorites this week, Jacksonville minus closes minus one. It was going back and forth. Minnesota closes as a one point favorite. We talked about why we like Minnesota. Vegas closes one and a half went over why we like, we actually like the Raiders. So it wasn't all awful. Casey one and that was one and a half back on Christmas day. Thank God. We played some unders man. We were looking at those weather games. We talked about them earlier in the week. The number ended up not mattering. But those scenarios that had had the wind. I I took Jacksonville, Tennessee, the under you talked about it earlier on the week, Cleveland, Miami. That was a clear cut under throughout and we didn't even know at the time the tool was going to be missing that game. But good things, some of the totals helped us out. We did play into those weathers, the weather and that worked out. Yeah, the Friday show, we talked about under 37 in Miami, Cleveland. And yesterday by kickoff, we were talking about a number that was sub 33. Didn't expect all of the injury stuff from Miami, but that was a game that just had no chance. And the quarterback matchups were just atrocious yesterday. I mean, that one in itself was Tyler Hunt Lee against DTR. Yep, brutal. Just brutal. There were six games where I thought to myself, you know, if I didn't have money on this, would I ever turn this game on? Hell no. Not really. Until next time. I don't even want to watch next week. I don't even want to do it. You brought up Broncos and commanders or I keep saying commanders Broncos and Falcons, both failing in overtime. That was the fifth and sixth time this year that a favorite covered the spread in overtime. So it happens on Saturday and it happens on Sunday six times in overtime where the favorite covers that is the second most in a season in 25 years per the action network. Yeah. Hey, how many how many stats do I have like that a million this season? Oh, this is the second most or third most or the most that it's ever seen or the just I'm just frustrated. I'm just frustrated. I am. And I also then I took it on the chin and fantasy because CD lamb and Jalen Hertz didn't play yesterday. And I lost my championship by two points. We figure that Hertz thing was going to happen. Once they started signing guys to the practice walk squad that are quarterbacks back on Thursday, we talked about it on Friday. We're like, yeah, he's probably not going to play. Then that ends up being the case. And then what do you know, picky comes in picky gets hurt and they still steamroll the Cowboys. Like it just doesn't matter. And we'll talk a lot about Saquan just an unbelievable year for him. And now he's one of one away from the Dickerson record. What do they do there? There are a lot of things that we're going to go back and forth about this week that we just don't know, certainly including Monday night football. I you saw it because you retweeted it. I posted the video of Joe Shane from the hard knocks as he went over the reasons to get rid of Saquan Barkley, basically. And wow, I mean, New York is on fire right now, just on fire, right decision, wrong decision, whatever, you could have that debate. But man, they want that dude. They cannot believe that he has a job, cannot believe it. It was the clip of he's with all the people that work under him and some are bring, you could tell the room disagreed with his thought process on Saquan. And, you know, he just gave these answers and he ends up with the power. That tweet has 2.3 million impressions right now. So they are on fire. My mentions are going crazy. I just thought that was funny. What do you think about Minnesota Green Bay? That was the game of the week, game of the day ends up being close, even though it wasn't that way throughout. This is how these matchups have gone with Green Bay and Minnesota. Minnesota gets out to a huge lead. The first matchup, they go up 28 nothing. And then yesterday in the third quarter, you look up, it's 20 to three ends up being really close at the end. But again, Green Bay can't beat these top teams in the NFC. No, and there's a lot of love for Green Bay and the macro of people saying that they're good enough to run the table. They can win the NFC. They can make it to a Super Bowl. And I don't, I don't know that I'm there. You know, I had Minnesota yesterday, one of my bigger bets of the weekend, better made a pick. The line went every which way, you know, we saw Minnesota get bet out to one on Thursday, Friday, it's pick them Saturday, Sunday, and then Green Bay gets all the late money. And the books actually did win on that decision. They needed Green Bay to lose. But it doesn't come without a little hairiness at the end. And I do think the one thing about Minnesota, I don't know what it is about the Vikings and their inability to draft kickers that can make big kicks. This has been a pandemic in Minnesota. This guy misses two yesterday. He missed a third that actually got moved five yards forward because the Packers, I believe went off sides. So he technically missed three kicks, only two in the box score. Whether it's Gary Anderson in 98 or Blair Walsh in the early 2010s. I'm, I'm texting my Vikings buddies yesterday and you've met a couple of them. I said, no kicking in the playoffs. No kicking. Do not do not let that game come down to the foot of the kicker in Minnesota. I don't know what it is there that they just can't find guys that can bury kicks. It's a little funny to me. Darnall look good. And then Darnall all of a sudden makes a couple plays where you go, ah, that's Sam Darnall. I like that team. The blitzing was really strong. They shut it down for three quarters on defense. But then the fourth quarter. Here we go again. I mean, the score wasn't really indicative of how that game went. They out gained Minnesota at Gang Green Bay by nearly 200 yards in that game. And you know, I know he's turned it on of late. And we've seen this in the second, some of these second halves over the last couple of years. But I don't trust Jordan Love because what he needs to do and how much he should be doing, he hasn't gotten there. Darnold has been the better quarterback this year. There's just no other way to spin it. And I know he's had a good run of late, but you're right. I mean, Green Bay is going to be sitting there with the six or the seven C. And that's out of their control right now. They're going to be the six or the seven. So to go on those road, the road in all of those spots and to win outright, I just don't see it. I understood some of the Green Bay love earlier in the year, but Sam against Detroit, Philadelphia, Minnesota, they are 0 and 5 this year. It's kind of that conversation we always have with Miami and a few other teams. You know, we went off on the Eber flu. Everybody did at the time. It happened again in that Atlantic game. Just what is with keeping these time out in your back pocket and just wasting time? I don't understand. They could have had an opportunity to get much closer for that field goal. It was online at the end of regulation, but just painfully short as Washington wins, Washington covers the three and a half in overtime. So on the other side with Atlanta, like they still have an outside chance at winning the division. You have Tampa Bay whooping up on Carolina. They have that ability, man. Now, a lot of it was the Panthers didn't play anybody. It feels like they're kind of done with the season. They put Cuba Hubbard on IR on Saturday. And I don't think they were playing half of their defensive starters, but but Tampa Bay needs to win next week. And then the division is theirs, but man, do they look impressive from time to time? Baker had one of those great Baker games, five touchdowns, no interceptions. We have some Tampa stock granted not as much as maybe we should have bought eight weeks ago or whatever when they were 40 to one and win the NFC. How about Baker, Mayfield and Sam Darnell, the former Carolina Panther quarterbacks together, just shredding, shredding the opposition. And you use the word painful. I would like to bring up one more painful thing from the weekend, the ramily luckboxing it again, the ramily getting getting Kyler Murray to throw a pass off of the forehead of Trey McBride that pops in the air and gets intercepted in the end zone. Rams win a game this weekend after mustering only 12 first downs and giving up almost 400 yards of offense. But bat, the ramily is just so good. They just keep finding ways to win, don't they? They literally had twice as many first downs, the Cardinals did. They suck. They suck. I hate them. They didn't score in the first quarter again. That was the 11th time this season. They have not scored. People are scared to say it. They're a fade. We've got our list of fades. The Rams are going to be a fade in the playoffs. Oh, man, can't wait. I can't wait for Monday night football. We'll tell you why Detroit San Francisco, the number is only three and a half. Keep it here, Joe. Oh, Sammy P, this is a Vekul Network. You're listening to Beck QL Bailey with Joe Wastrowski and Sam Paniatovich presented by Bet MGM, the sports book born in Vegas. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] It's always a challenge to go on the road. And I just, I think we thrive off of the challenge. You can't hear most of the time, you know, and then you gotta perform, man. You gotta make place. And I don't think there's anything better than when you offensively, defensively, special teams. It's early in the game. And you make a play that shuts the crowd down. That's kind of what you live for on the road. So I think we embrace it as something we've been pretty good at, but it takes work and it does. You gotta prepare to play on the road. Welcome back to Beck QL Bailey with Joe Wastrowski and Sam Paniatovich presented by Bet MGM, the sports book born in Vegas. Dan Campbell and company playing on the road tonight in San Francisco, your last Monday night football matchup of the 2024 NFL season. Joe Wastrowski, Sam Paniatovich with you. And it is a holiday week. I know everybody's schedule is out of whack, but we're going to be here. The majority of the week. It's a huge betting season. We've got college football playoff back in action tomorrow. Of course, the NFL regular season winding down. We're here today on Tuesday and also we'll be back Thursday and Friday. The only day that we're going to miss New Year's Day. I know a lot of people won't be paying attention to what's happening. Maybe obliterated still hanging over possibly. So we'll be off like the majority of you for New Year's Day, but there will be a show. Okay, Constable, we'll be here. I don't know who our co host will be here on Wednesday morning, but we're here for the five days this week before we get to week number 18 in the NFL. Now we wrap up week number 17, Sam, with Detroit, San Francisco, and much of the week. People have looked at that number and been a bit confused. Why is this so short. And now that we know the situation sitting here Monday morning, we know why this is so short. Why is it only three and a half? I mean, it looks like the Niners have given up on the season. They put Trent Williams on IR the other day. They've got a number of their best players already done for the year. The reason this is so short is because this game doesn't matter to anybody. Except for those betting on it. Doesn't matter for San Francisco. Obviously long eliminated from the playoffs, and it doesn't matter to Detroit. The only thing that matters to Detroit is the Minnesota game next week. The winner of that game gets the one seed wins the NFC North and they get a buy. The loser of that game gets the five seed in the NFC. This game doesn't matter. That's why we're sitting here at three and a half. But the man's voice you heard coming back from the break. That's what makes this difficult to handicap because that guy with an every chance he gets every turn, he will tell you how we're going to play hard and we're going to go for it and we're not going to go out there to lose or go halfway. We're going to go. We're going to go 100%. The man at the controls wants to win every game. So what is he going to do tonight, Sam? I am cracking up looking at the Money Line price for a three and a half point favorite. The Money Line is minus 210 minus 220. So the books are shading the Money Line today in favor of the Lions, which I guess makes sense. Let's just push it out. Let's make it north of two dollars. If you want to bet the Troy Money Line, we're going to make you lay a premium. They also realize we need to just make these dogs as enticing as possible. Hey, you want to bet Niners to win? Here's 75. Come get it. Trying to just beg you, bait you to take the dog on the Money Line. My question to you is, as somebody like me who looks for undervalued underdogs, any chance you take a flyer on San Francisco to win the game. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what I have circled that I intend on bringing up a lot of lines under Gibbs touchdown Gibbs. Oh, no, that's sorry Gibbs for any time touchdown. I think the best price. What was it? I saw minus 450. I think the best price was minus 235. And for two plus touchdowns plus 235. Like I get it. I know he's the only guy and no Montgomery. I understand I saw what happened last week at 27 touches against the Bears. That game meant something. This game means nothing. So when you ask that question, the answer is a resounding. Yes. Well, I get there. I'm not sure because I am looking at these unders and for the lines props that everybody's going to be betting over on tonight. So do we wait? What do we do to just wait? You could wait, probably get bigger numbers later by kickoff and just go on if you want. What do you think happens here? Because we've got this guy Dan Campbell. The man's a certified lunatic. We all understand that. And he's all about team and playing hard and never going halfway and all that stuff. And he's already been on record saying they're going to play hard. But we haven't heard him on record since it's been decided that tonight's game means nothing. It's different talking about what ifs. But now this is the situation. Tonight's game means absolutely nothing. But it's Dan Campbell. But let's keep in mind that Dan Campbell has bosses. I know we like to talk about Dan Campbell like he doesn't. Oh, he does. And you better believe Brian Holmes is going to be like, dude, next week matters. Tonight doesn't matter. We just lost David Montgomery. Let's make sure we get to that game and the playoffs completely healthy, especially let's not risk it for a meaningless game. I think what we should do is look at some of these Lions players that are completely down the board and look at them to maybe do big things. I'm not saying score two, three touchdowns. But I do believe there's a rope pull eventually tonight. And that doesn't mean that Detroit is going to lose to San Francisco because Detroit's backups might be better than some of these San Francisco guys who just don't care. That's a hard calculus to make in week 17 Monday night when one team is good enough to win a Super Bowl and the other team is probably not interested at all. I mean, aside from maybe some incentives for some guys like George Kittle, what's important for San Francisco. Nothing. So backup quarterback in Detroit to score a touchdown anytime backup running backs backup wide receivers backup tight ends. Because if you do see the Lions for a quarter or two, play their guys, which I would never do, but that's, that's not my call. You could see the entire second string in by the third quarter, at which point the prices that you bet pregame are no longer accurate. If Jared Goff plays the whole game. His props should be a certain way. And if Jamir Gibbs plays four quarters. Yes, minus 450 is justified. But minus 450 is not justified if he only plays a quarter or a drive or whatever. So the prices can very quickly become inaccurate on the second string Detroit guys. If you don't mind goes. I have no idea though what's going to happen. I wouldn't put anything past Dan Campbell. I know a lot of people like him. I think he's a moron at times in a lot of ways. Like, are they really going to risk more defensive injuries tonight in a game that means nothing. I can't imagine that that's an organizational plan to Hey, let's lose two more starters on defense against San Francisco. It happens. It's malpractice. But he keeps saying we play every game to win. We relish the opportunity to take the field. Okay, dude, you have bigger fish to fry. And I want to just throw two numbers at you real quick. And I texted a lot of guys last night in Vegas. What are the splits? What are people betting? And this is a Sunday report. Eight out of 10, eight out of 10, eight out of 10 tickets on Detroit. Okay, that's yesterday. We got the push today. We just got an email from Betam GM. And again, I don't think bets splits are the most important thing in the world. I think a lot of them are BS. But not when you get to this number. So according to Betam GM. So far on this game tonight, Detroit at San Francisco, 91% of the betting handle spread wise is on Detroit. 92% of the bets are on Detroit right now. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. I had the same line of thinking as far as players down the jet depth chart to do something. So the first thing I wrote down, okay, let's go running back. You've got Gibbs. He's all you have right now. You cannot afford an injury. Like maybe Campbell caves a little bit halfway, or they play half the game, something like that. But the first thing I would be saying, if I'm the general manager to Campbell would be listen man, we've got to have Jameer Gibbs for next week in the playoffs. Play Craig Reynolds. I don't care. Play Craig Reynolds. We're going to be fine. Our own line is elite. And they've been playing him anyways. So if you look last week in that blowout. Craig Reynolds was on the field for 15% a snap. So it's not like the guy isn't playing at all. Anytime touchdown for Reynolds plus 650. We've seen Tim Patrick. So we're touched on recently. Why not tonight. Plus three 10 for an anytime touchdown receptions two and a half receiving yards 27 and a half. And also as thinking about Sam Laporta, a guy that's turned it on of late gotten into the end zone. A guy that's been dealing with injuries this year. So why risk it with him in a Brock right was on the field for half the snaps last week has a couple touchdowns on the year. Why not play Brock right for an anytime touchdown at 11 to one. So I was along the same lines with you as looking as the at these backups possibly doing something and with that if you want to take unders. You can do that too because the golf number to 49 and a half. I'm on raw 72 and a half. And then the Gibbs Gibbs numbers crazy high with the rushing and the total yards as well. So I wanted to give you an example of how these books are so different and they have different strategies on games like this where we don't know what the game plan is for Detroit. Let's take a guy way down the depth chart on Detroit. Okay. I'm on our lads right now our lads.com tremendous site for death chart. Oh, you are LADS.com and I'm on Detroit. Their fourth running back is a kid out of Utah. Cion Vaki. Okay. So that MGM has Vaki at five to one anytime touchdown. I'm looking at the market right now. Anytime touchdown Vaki is five to one. However, if you look at other sports books. There's a 950. There's a 13 to one. And there is a 16 to one on Cion Vaki to score a touchdown. Now I'm not saying let's take $300 and bet it on Vaki. That's not what I said. But you have to understand that the ranges on these prices are insane. If you bet a hundred at one place, it makes you 500. If you bet that same hundred down the street, you can get 1600. If this guy rumbles into the end zone in the fourth quarter of a meaningless game on $11 range on a four string running back. What does that tell you. Big opportunity, man. It is. So next next week, all of these are going to be priced in. Doesn't it feel like it's not priced in this week. Just the idea. It doesn't feel like the books have a clue. And when the books don't have a clue. If you shoot down the barrel and take shots. A lot of you have these free bets or these boost. If you could boost a Craig Reynolds or a Cion Vaki touchdown at the right place and turn these bets from eight to one of 16 to one or 16 to one to 30 to one. These are the nights you take those chances because the books are guessing as much as you are. And there is blowout factor in this game, just like every other game. And of course, Vaki would be the guy in there. Possibly two plus touchdowns. He's 80 to one. We've seen some bad players get two touchdowns in a game or some guys that are way down the depth chart. I think that's a good idea. The running back one really stands out to me, Sam, more than the other positions like we threw out some other ideas with, you know, receivers down the line that could be out there. But I mean, what's Alan Robinson. She don't. I mean, it's like, it could get that bad. James and Williams and I'm on Ross and Brown. Do you want to both on the field when you've had when you have Alan Robinson? I expect Tim Patrick to be out there. No matter what. These are some of the opportunities. You also don't want to go too crazy because it might just be, it might just be a nothing. It might be a nothing. But there are some numbers out there that are worth taking a shot. If it's us running the team, we're sitting everybody, right? Everyone. I'm sitting everyone. I'm sitting golf. I'm sitting our best offensive lineman. There's no way in hell I'm playing Jameer Gibbs. I'm on Ross and Brown. No chance. Laporta. I'm sitting them all. They operate a little different, a little different. Is it going to be a Hendon Hooker game? Maybe. No props and hooker anywhere. No props. I look this morning. Not a single prop on Hendon Hooker. But what you could do is under golf under. Okay, let me make the case there because I think we can make the case for golf under, even if he plays the full game. In the last seven games, San Francisco's defense has been allowing 167 passing yards per game. I repeat last seven games, 167 per game. People are thinking right now, Sam. Oh, well, they probably played some bad quarterbacks. Here's the quarterback list. Tua Stafford, Caleb, Josh Allen, Jordan Love, Gino Smith, Baker Mayfield. That's not a bad list. Not a bad list at all. There are a lot of top half of the league quarterbacks there and they've been giving up 167 passing yards per game. So playing golf, 249 and a half and thinking maybe he just plays half the game, maybe pull the starters for the fourth quarter. I think that's a decent look. What if Dan Campbell comes out and says screw back QL daily. I'm keeping everybody in all game. Vocky, no snaps, Vocky, no mercy. No, we want Vocky Moon. That's what we want. Yes, that's what we need. I don't think it would surprise any of us. If we're sitting here tomorrow saying Dan Campbell's an idiot, the latest reason because he played all the starters the entire game. Case of the Mondays next here on BekQL Daily. You're listening to BekQL Daily with Joe Wastrowski and Sam Paniatovich presented by BetMGM, the sports book Born in Vegas. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] [BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] I got to get out of here, I think I'm gonna lose it. Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays. Sounds like a case of the Mondays. [MUSIC] Does anyone ever say to you, sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays? No, man, I believe you get your ass kicked saying so much happened. [MUSIC] Happy Monday here on Ben QL Daily, Joe Ostrowski, and Pantheonovich. We got a case of the Mondays, anything that happened over the weekend really bothers us. I think we've knocked a lot of it already out of the way, Sam, but new listeners, they jump on. Case of the Mondays, anything that happened to you doesn't have to be sports. Betting related, but anything that you want to throw out for today's case of the Mondays. >> I have been social media pedestaled again, thanks to our great social media team. And I was telling, I had dinner last night with one of my old bosses, Rick Jaffe, who I worked with in Vegas and worked with in Boston. And he was asking how the new job was going and how our show is going. And we get into talking about all these different things. And he's over at the new TV network in Chicago now. And he's got some obstacles there. And it was very, very- >> Oh my gosh. >> Yes. >> So we get to talking about the idiosyncrasies of our jobs. And I said, you know, the one thing that I find very interesting about our jobs, and I said our jobs, not my job, because you and I both go through it, is that there are days that we have on this three hour daily show, we could have two days a month where we are wrong about 80% of the things that we say. And it's very difficult, I think, to process that sometimes. I mean, we've had shows where I've come on here, and it's a Monday night or a Thursday night, and I'm like, I like the dog, I like the under, I like this guy to score a touchdown, and none of it happens. Or we talk about things for the weekend and we give this play and it loses by 30 points or whatever. And there are days when we talk about a lot of things that don't come to fruition, and that's part of the space. I mean, the best prognosticators in the world are hitting around 55 to 57%. So it's impossible to be right about everything. But I said, Rick, the one thing that I'm really starting to ignore is the post that, and our social team does a tremendous job. But anytime we post something from this show on Instagram that has any tentacles into the SEC, I can't even read the post anymore. I just can't. There's a post that we put up, I believe on Thursday or Friday, about you and I talking about Notre Dame and Georgia. And I say something to the extent of, I don't know the area where Georgia is decidedly better, aside from head coach, and I stand by that. I don't think Georgia has an edge in a lot of areas. You could meet me where Georgia has a better D line, but it's not substantially better than Notre Dame's D line. I'll stand by this and I'll wear it if I'm wrong. The game hasn't even kicked yet. And there are hundreds of comments on this video where I'm saying that Notre Dame is better than Georgia. And of course, Georgia gets wind of it, like Georgia message boards, Georgia. This guy with the Georgia jersey and the general league with the Confederate flag on the hood. I'm like, all right, like this guy's telling me I'm soft and Notre Dame's soft. Like the game hasn't even started yet. And already I'm being labeled as a note all moron. And I said, Rick, I think those are the moments that I don't know how to handle still. And the worst part is if I'm wrong, it will only triple when Georgia beats Notre Dame 28 to three, I'm going to have to live through it all over again. And he's like, uh, that's, that's all. And it's forgotten about it. If we're right. And if you're right, no, nobody said to say anything or good call on Notre Dame or, you know, I mean, those are few and far, nothing. Not that we need that. But yeah, no, it's just fun reading, reading all the comments. It's like, oh God, it's no matter what you say, you're going to piss people off. So anytime I get a text from somebody on the social team that we're going viral, I die a little inside. It's not good. It's bad for us. They're going to rip us apart. The Mahomes, the Mahomes, not the MVP clip was like the most mistreated I've been on the Internet. And that couldn't have been more correct on him not being the MVP. Check his price. He's like 150 to one now to win the MVP. But I got dragged for six weeks. And, uh, how about in the last few weeks, how many messages are you saying? Good take. You were correct. No, none. None. But that's not what the Internet is. So that video, that video had over a million views on Instagram where you and I said, Hey, Mahomes is not the MVP of the league. And he quite literally is not the MVP. So that's my latest enigma. I have, I have angered the Georgia mouth breathers so much. And the game doesn't even kick off until Wednesday. And I'm already wrong about Notre Dame Georgia, even though the game hasn't been played yet. Um, not really a case of the Mondays, just, just very, very interesting behavior of, of the Internet commenters. I like it. Uh, I can't wait for that game. Feels like it's been forever since they played. The, the week and a half off is interesting. And like that they get extra time to prepare and that there's not a huge advantage. If you've been sitting around and who knows, maybe we're going to be here at the end and say that it was a disadvantage. Getting the buy, which so many of those teams desperately wanted. Uh, man, I can't wait. That's going to be awesome Tuesday night, Wednesday with those three games. Uh, with the playoff, it's going to be a lot of fun. Um, look, I mean. I just don't understand. And I'm completely biased because we talked about taking Atlanta plus four plus three and a half, whatever number. Didn't matter. It was a loser. And maybe you were on the right side. You know, I would say that, yeah, Pennix had a great moment on the fourth and 13. He rifles it to pitch over the middle and to the end zone to tie the game. That was an awesome moment. That's why he's out there. But a lot of air throws throughout a lot of rookie moments on the road. I wouldn't say he had a great game at all. I mean, the completion percentages around 50%. But why have we decided in the NFL that, okay, we've got something wrong in the regular season. And we're going to fix it for the playoffs, but we're not going to fix it for the regular season. And that entire Washington drive in overtime that wouldn't end, that was on my mind. Like, they're going to score a touchdown and it's going to end. And it, Pennix is not going to have an opportunity because of the coin toss. It's the reason they changed it for the playoffs. It's actually the correct move. Like, was anybody like, Oh, no, you know what? I'm not going to stay up five more minutes on Sunday night watching that game because it's too long. We got to end the game. We need, and that decided so much whether we're talking about the NFC South, whether we're talking about the playoff picture overall because Washington locked up a playoff picture last night. Like, we couldn't have the Falcons getting a possession. Another one of these situations, leak, you actually got it right, but why are you only going halfway? Why does the regular season not matter to you? Because that game last night meant a ton to the playoff picture and not to mention all the betters and all that. But we're still here where the coin flip means so much, which is pretty idiotic. Yeah, I still think that there's a world where certain sports books could make regulation only markets. I don't know how that plays out from a gaming control standpoint, but imagine if you were just able to bet Falcons in regulation or something that Kenny White brought up to me a long time ago in Vegas. He said that he loses, well, he said that he loses 30% of his college basketball bets in overtime, if not more. And if you know Kenny, Kenny's an under player, man. He's an under player. Yeah. So if you have, if you have 10 games and you lose three of these, like 10 totals, let's call it, and you lose three of them in overtime. That sucks because you made the right bet, especially in that scenario, where you're betting a college basketball under the game stays under for 40 minutes and then goes over and overtime or double overtime. Kenny said many times, I would be betting only regulation under in college basketball. But that's not a thing in most places. I believe you can do it some markets in Asia, some offshore shops have it, but you can't do it at an American shop like that MGM. But if they had the opportunity, there would be more people that would be willing to just be playing these regulation only markets, the dog and regulation, the under and regulation, and then not getting ransacked by whatever chaos happens in overtime. Yeah. Yeah, if you're on the under, it's like, bets over, happens all the time, the amount of points that you're going to get in that extra session or it goes a couple of them. Yeah, that's, that's tough. I would like to see that. Okay, let me ask you this. That's the option. Obviously, knowing the results, it's easy. Let's say, okay, you took four with Atlanta. What if it's Atlanta plus three regulation? Would you bet? Which one would you bet? Oh, you're saying they would shade it with the regulation market? Yeah, I guess probably have to. I don't know that it would be a point and a half different or a point different. Well, close three and a half. Yeah, that's right. I did see a couple of threes that didn't really last. I don't know. You're right, because it's easy to answer it after the game's over, right? Yeah, I would always choose the route of less juice. I would not be laying a dollar twenty dollar twenty five on these bets. So wherever I could get minus one oh five or minus one ten would be my, my answer blindly. I don't know. Like, I don't know that I would have bet Falcons and regulation, though. I'm thinking more from a total standpoint. Like anytime I bet an under, I would be betting under regulation only. If I could. If I could. Yes, a hundred percent. But I don't know how that looks. I don't know what the juice looks like. I don't know what the number looks like, because most games don't go to overtime. So how do you make the proper number? I don't know. It's a fascinating question, though. I hadn't thought about it that way. Wonder if the glass man had an overtime bet. You know the overtime is his favorite bet. Usually around eight to one if he had it in either of those games. By the way, we didn't talk about it as much because it was Saturday. Zack Taylor is still a moron. He won that game, but still a moron. And people rant. Oh, well, you can't expect him to miss a thirty three yard field goal. I understand. But it was third down. You have right now the best quarterback in the world. Like, we could have a real conversation about that. Joe burrows the best quarterback in the world at this moment. And T Higgins has an unbelievable game. Of course, you have Jim R. Chase just putting it all on the kicker. And a lot of cases, they're putting it all on a kicker that they just brought in that is brand new to the team. Because it's like, I'm wiping my hand to this. I can't stand it when coaches do that. I go. No, he's supposed to make that kick. We set him up for it. He didn't make it. How about go win the game? How about go score touchdown with your elite offense? Jason Locke and Foro, Odyssey NFL Insider, joins us next on the Becky Well Network.
Joe & Sam recap NFL Week 17, discuss the MNF matchup between the Lions & 49ers, and share their case of the Monday's during hour 1 of BQLD.
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