Joe & Sam break down the NFL Week 17 results.
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You're only favorite that lost. The Indianapolis Colts, a seven and a half point favorites. At the Giants, something we kept saying, boy, this seems like a lot. Boy, this seems like a lot. It was a lot. Neighbors had an unbelievable day. 14 in one straight up, but are they covering the number? You damn right, they're covering the number. These favorites go 12 and three against the spread. The only dogs to cover were the bears plus four, Arizona plus six and a half on Saturday. And then yesterday, the aforementioned Giants plus seven and a half. Like many books, I bet that the house cannot wait until the playoffs get going. Well, but the playoffs are usually favorites. Favorites usually win in the playoffs too, because most people decide, hmm, what will I do in this playoff game? Ah, I'll take the better quarterback. And the better quarterback usually finds a way to win. 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If you were down on Sunday and you bailed out on another prime time favorite, you were rewarded. These habits are not good. These habits don't usually win. But in the year of 2024, this has been the specialty for the public. The house needed commanders to not cover. The house needed commanders to lose outright. The house didn't get what it wanted. And I don't want to sit here and say, well, you know, we feel bad for the house because people that are listening and people that watch the show are trying to beat the house. But to just line up and pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. Favorite after favorite after favorite, especially on these Thursday night games and the Sunday night games and these Monday night games. It's been insanity. I don't ever remember a run like this. And Evan Abrams from the Action Network yesterday had a tweet that I read on the morning show with Costos on Sunday. Or actually you're on the mornings of them mid mornings, I guess. You better your bet, count on the kickoff. And he said this was the third best season for favorites winning since 1980. Wow. Ah, yes, of course it is. Just win, cover most of the time, but just favorites win and favorites on the Moneyline and favorites Moneyline together in parlays. Simple. - Can't put the numbers high enough. They can't, that's what it seems like right now. And not only that, it's, you always have this debate where you're on the right side or right side or wrong side, whatever happens, the winner is the winner. But it's also two of our five contest plays that we come together on Fridays. And we agree upon, we read the room and go over it. We come up with five sides that we'd like. Two of our five sides that we like Denver plus three and a half. They lose an overtime on a touchdown eventually. And then last night in Atlanta, we took them plus three and a half or four, whatever that number was. And then they lose an overtime on a touchdown. It's just like when you wanna be holding a plus three and a half ticket when you're going to overtime. And both scenarios, Saturday night and Sunday night, they end up being losers on those sides. So yeah, we've been talking about how difficult it is. You know, the other thing that stood out to me, it's not only all the favorites winning and the majority of them covering, but even all these one, one and a half point favorites this week, Jacksonville, minus closes minus one. It was going back and forth. Minnesota closes as a one point favorite. We talked about why we like Minnesota. Vegas closes one and a half, went over why we like, we actually like the Raiders. So it wasn't all awful. Casey, that was one and a half back on Christmas Day. Thank God we played some unders, man. We were looking at those weather games. We talked about them earlier in the week. The number ended up not mattering, but those scenarios that had the wind. I took Jacksonville, Tennessee, the under. You talked about it earlier on the week, Cleveland, Miami. That was a clear cut under throughout. And we didn't even know at the time the tour was gonna be missing that game. But good things, some of the totals helped us out. We did play into those weathers. The weather and that worked out. - Yeah, the Friday show, we talked about under 37 in Miami, Cleveland. And yesterday by kickoff, we were talking about a number that was sub 33. Didn't expect all of the injury stuff from Miami, but that was a game that just had no chance. And the quarterback matchups were just atrocious yesterday. I mean, that one in itself was Tyler Huntley against DTR. - Yep, brutal. - Just brutal. There were six games where I thought to myself, you know, if I didn't have money on this, would I ever turn this game on? - Hell no. - Not really. - Until next week. (laughing) - I don't even wanna watch next week. I don't even wanna do it. You brought up Broncos and commanders, or I keep saying commanders. Broncos and Falcons, both failing and overtime. That was the fifth and sixth time this year that a favorite covered the spread in overtime. So it happens on Saturday and it happens on Sunday, six times in overtime where the favorite covers, that is the second most in a season in 25 years per the action network. - Yep. - How many stats do I have like that? A million this season. Oh, this is the second most or third most or the most that it's ever seen or the, it's just, I'm just frustrated. I'm just frustrated, I am. And I also then I took it on the chin and fantasy because CD Lamb and Jalen Hurts didn't play yesterday. And I lost my championship by two points. - We figure that Hurts thing was gonna happen. Once they started signing guys to the practice walk squad at a quarterback's back on Thursday, we talked about it on Friday, we're like, "Yeah, he's probably not gonna play." Then that ends up being the case. And then what do you know? Pickett comes in, pickett gets hurt. And they still steamroll the Cowboys. Like it just doesn't matter. And we'll talk a lot about Saquan just an unbelievable year for him. And now he's one to one away from the Dickerson record. What do they do there? There are a lot of things that we're gonna go back and forth about this week that we just don't know, certainly including Monday Night Football. You saw it 'cause you retweeted it. I posted the video of Joe Shane from The Hard Knocks as he went over the reasons to get rid of Saquan Barkley, basically. And wow, I mean, New York is on fire right now. Just on fire. Right decision, wrong decision, whatever. You could have that debate, but man, they want that dude. They cannot believe that he has a job. Cannot believe it. It was the clip of he's with all the people that work under him and some are bringing, you could tell the room disagreed with his thought process on Saquan, and he just gave these answers and he ends up with the power. That tweet has 2.3 million impressions right now. So they are on fire. My mentions are going crazy. I just thought that was funny. What do you think about Minnesota Green Bay? That was the game of the week. Game of the day ends up being close, even though it wasn't that way throughout. This is how these matchups have gone with Green Bay in Minnesota. Minnesota gets out to a huge lead. The first matchup, they go up 28, nothing. And then yesterday in the third quarter, you look up, it's 20 to three, ends up being really close at the end. But again, Green Bay can't beat these top teams in the NFC. - No, and there's a lot of love for Green Bay and the macro. People saying that they're good enough to run the table. They can win the NFC. They can make it to a Super Bowl. And I don't know that I'm there. You know, I had Minnesota yesterday, one of my bigger bets of the weekend, better made a pick. The line went every which way. We saw Minnesota get bet out to one on Thursday, Friday. It's pick 'em Saturday, Sunday, and then Green Bay gets all the late money. And the books actually did win on that decision. They needed Green Bay to lose. But it doesn't come without a little hairiness at the end. And I do think the one thing about Minnesota, I don't know what it is about the Vikings and their inability to draft kickers that can make big kicks. And this has been a pandemic in Minnesota. This guy misses two yesterday. He missed a third that actually got moved five yards forward because the Packers, I believe, went off sides. So he technically missed three kicks, only two in the box score. Whether it's Gary Anderson in '98 or Blair Walsh in the early 2010s. I'm texting my Vikings buddies yesterday and you've met a couple of 'em. I said, no kicking in the playoffs. No kicking, do not let that game come down to the foot of the kicker in Minnesota. I don't know what it is there. That they just can't find guys that can bury kicks. It's a little funny to me. Darnold look good and then Darnold all of a sudden makes a couple plays where you go, "Ah, that's Sam Darnold." Mm-hmm. I liked that team. Their blitzing was really strong. They shut it down for three quarters on defense, but then the fourth quarter, here we go again. I mean, the score wasn't really indicative of how that game went. They out gained, Minnesota out gained Green Bay by nearly 200 yards in that game. And, you know, I know he's turned it on of late and we've seen this in the second, some of these second halves over the last couple of years, but I don't trust Jordan Love 'cause what he needs to do and how much he should be doing, he hasn't gotten there. Darnold has been the better quarterback this year. There's just no other way to spin it. And I know he's had a good run of late, but you're right. I mean, Green Bay's gonna be sitting there with the six or the seven C and that's out of their control right now. They're gonna be the six or the seven. So to go on the road in all of those spots and to win outright, I just don't see it. I understood some of the Green Bay Love earlier in the year, but Sam against Detroit, Philadelphia, Minnesota, they are 0 and 5 this year. It's kind of that conversation we always have with Miami and a few other teams. And, you know, we went off on Eber Flus, everybody did at the time. It happened again in that Atlantic game. Just what is with keeping these time outs in your back pocket and just wasting time? I don't understand. They could have had an opportunity to get much closer for that field goal. It was online at the end of regulation, but just painfully short as Washington wins, Washington covers the three and a half in overtime. So on the other side with Atlanta, like they still have an outside chance at winning the division. You have Tampa Bay whooping up on Carolina. They have that ability, man. Now, a lot of it was the Panthers didn't play anybody. It feels like they're kind of done with the season. They put Cuba Hubbard on IR on Saturday and I don't think they were playing half of their defensive starters. But Tampa Bay needs to win next week and then the division is theirs. But, man, do they look impressive from time to time? Baker had one of those great Baker games, five touchdowns, no interceptions. We have some Tampa stock. Granted, not as much as maybe we should have bought eight weeks ago or whatever, when they were 40 to one and win the NFC. How about Baker, Mayfield and Sam Darnold, former Carolina Panther quarterbacks together, just shredding, shredding the opposition. And you use the word painful. I would like to bring up one more painful thing from the weekend, the Ramalee luckboxing it again. The Ramalee getting Kyler Murray to throw a pass off of the forehead of Trey McBride that pops in the air and gets intercepted in the end zone. Rams win a game this weekend after mustering only 12 first downs and giving up almost 400 yards of offense. But bat the Ramalee is just so good. They just keep finding ways to win, don't they? - They literally had twice as many first downs, the Cardinals did. - They sucked, they sucked, I hate them. - They didn't score in the first quarter again. That was the 11th time this season. They have not scored. People are scared to say it, they're a fade. We've got our list of fades. The Rams are gonna be a fade in the playoffs, man. Can't wait. I can't wait for Monday night football. We'll tell you why, Detroit San Francisco, the number is only three and a half. Keep it here, Joe. Oh, Sammy P, this is the Vekul Network.
Joe & Sam break down the NFL Week 17 results.
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