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Acknowledge Me: Saquon Barkley, Deion Sanders and more
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We acknowledge Saquon Barkley, Seth, for becoming the ninth running back in NFL history to go over 2,000 yards in a season. He is 105 yards away from Eric Dickerson's single season record. We will acknowledge, as well, that it's a 17-game season now, not a 16-game season like it was with Eric Dickerson back in the day. But it's fair to say that the Saquon Barkley acquisition is working out, as well as the Eagles possibly could have imagined, and as poorly as the New York Giants possibly could have imagined. Yeah, the one thing that John Mara didn't want to have happened, but as GM kept telling him, it has to happen for so many good reasons. Because most of all, let's be real, Saquon Barkley is washed up. Yeah, he's 27 years old. What could you expect to get out of him? Why would you pay-- And who's going to want him? He also said that multiple times. Who's going to want him anyway? No, we can't trade him. Turns out the Eagles wanted him. Why would you pay for-- I believe one of the other quotes uttered. We're going to hear some of the audio here in a second. One of the other quotes uttered by Joe Shane, "Do I want to pay $40 million to my quarterback to hand off to a $12 million running back?" Right. I'll point out that $40 million quarterback is a Minnesota Viking now. He's not even on the Giants anymore. He's not even a giant. Here's probably the most noteworthy exchange between Giants GM Joe Shane. This is from hard knocks off season. Giants GM Joe Shane, an owner of the Giants, and probably the biggest Saquon Barkley fan in the world, John Mara. Where-- what's the latest? Just on the Saquon thing. I just got a text that Chicago's driving the price up and Philly's out. I don't know if that's true or not. Liar. Which I don't know if-- I'll make a couple of calls. I don't even know if that's going to happen. But I'm going to have a tough time sleeping. If St. Michael knows the film, I'll tell you that. As I told you, just being out. I've been around enough players. But he's the most popular player we have by far. Yeah. Joe Shane didn't want to hear about popularity. That was not registering. Dude, the more we play that cut, the more Joe Shane in the very beginning sounds like a guy who is totally lying and doesn't even-- he just thinks like this old man's going to believe me. He'll believe me. I'll tell you, man. And just with that right there, there's so many moments from that hard knocks where these are conversations that would have been had. We just wouldn't have been privy to them. So let's pretend that this was never on HBO hard knocks. But these were the conversations that Joe Shane is having with John Mara, where he's just continually over the course of that HBO hard knocks off-season. Kind of pulling the wool over John Mara's eyes about the situation. And Joe Shane is repeatedly telling people on his own staff, no, nobody's going to want him. Why would Philly want Saquon Barkley? No, they're not going to go after him. So he was so wrong in so many respects, which happens, except that you also get a sense that, man, it felt like he was actively misleading him. Oh, yeah, 100%. Actively misleading John Mara. 100%. And not to mention, but then not even misleading it, saying we've got to find out what we have in Daniel Jones, the guy that I paid without apparently knowing what we have in him. And now he's gone, which is what's so crazy about these reports that Joe Shane's job is safe. Yeah. It's just-- it's not. It's crazy. Somebody's got to grab John Mara by his little fancy lad prep school blazer and say he is making a fool of you, John Mara. An act like a man. Yes. All right, let's keep it moving. Coach Prime. Acknowledged me. I'm going to acknowledge Coach Prime, not for the abysmal performance that Colorado put up in the Alamo Bowl. BYU just took them to the woodshed. And that was with Shador playing quarterback and Travis Hunter, playing wide receiver and cornerback. Colorado's guys played in this game. And a partial portion of my acknowledgment is to Coach Prime for having his guys play in the bowl game. I think that's really cool. Now they played like they were out a lot on the Riverwalk over the last few days. They were not good. This is what has me acknowledging Coach Prime. And this is where I've started. I've really come around on him this year as a coach and a leader and a leader of young kids, young man, I should say. This was Coach Prime giving his opinion on something he thinks should be mandatory for college football play, college athletes. The financial literacy classes should be mandatory. So these kids understand how to manage their money. When they get their money in, I think it should be a pay schedule. It should be structured. It can't be just telling them to get Harry gets this because he had a great year somewhere else. Then that throws off the chemistry and the structure of your whole team. It's just like one of you guys coming out here, some guys from outside coming in here, they make more money than you. And they hadn't even been doing the work that you've done. It's not fair. And I think the NFL has handled it right. And we need to mimic the NFL when it comes to that because right now we're not pros, but we're semi-pro. And that's the way it's going. And if we don't get a hold of it, it's going to keep going left. And the teams that don't have the budgets, like us, it's going to be hard to sit up in front of you and then make it to a playoff game. Because now it turns into pay-per-view. We're good, Jordan. That's right. That's good right there. The last about 30 seconds. And I was basically saying that college needs a salary cap, like the NFL. Like all teams need to be playing on-- Oh, that's what he says. Even for anyone. He goes on to say that. Yeah. No, no, no. I felt like that's what he was implying by saying, the pros got it right. Now we need to mimic the pros. Oh, I thought he meant in terms of the literacy classes and everything. Because he's all kinds of stuff in the off season about educational stuff like that. Oh, OK. OK, yeah. Yeah, OK, yeah, probably maybe that too. Maybe that too. I mean, given what he was talking about, that's what I assumed he was saying. Yeah, I think it's the Wild West right now on college. And from program to program, who knows how many of those guys even realize that they've got to pay self-employment tax and all that. It's a lot. It's hard enough when you actually get a real job with an employer to manage your taxes. But you're all of a sudden making all that money as an independent contractor with all this NIL stuff. And it's a lot. But then the part that I was intrigued by was when he was talking about the jealousy. You just realized your business needed to hire someone yesterday. 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I think like you can take any number of macro and microeconomics classes, but still not the good about managing your own person. - Yeah, I think the syllabus should be totally putting the student in the shoes of this is their money, not this is the economy, you know? - We had, I remember when we were in school, at some point, you know, they had home economics and you had shop class. And they changed it to where they were like, all right, like listen, times are changing. And I'm guessing a lot of these young women in the 1980s aren't gonna go on to be housewives. Let's do, I think we call it home and careers. So it was like, we could still take shop or tech ad, whatever they called it. But there was a separate one that was home and careers, which was everybody took it and you had to learn how to do all the old home economics stuff, like cooking and everything. But then there was also balancing your checkbook, all there was a financial management side to it. - Yeah, yeah. - But it was in like, it was in like seventh or eighth grade. - Right. - So where it's not quite getting to the point where, you know, you don't have your own checkbook at that point, usually. - That's, it's a very, your junior senior year in high school is probably the best time to do that. - Yeah, so coach Prime, good job on your philosophy. Bad job in the alamable, good job with what you're espousing. Jonathan Fagan, hey Jordan, Jonathan Fagan. - Acknowledge me. - Acknowledge me, we acknowledge Jonathan Fagan. Rockets beat writer for the Houston Chronicle, hanging it up after 27 years of covering the rockets and even longer than that with the Chronicle. I can remember when I moved here in like 1994 and 1995 and Jonathan Fagan was doing periodic radio over on one of Dan Patrick's stations, I think with Matt Thomas back in the day. So he's been doing it in Houston even longer than the several, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, even longer than the 27 years he's been covering the team. But man, you can tell a lot, Seth, about the respect level, by the way, the team that a person covers handles their retirement and Jonathan Fagan got an ad and a full page ad in the Chronicle from the Rockets. Ina Odoka tossed a ball, a basketball to Jonathan Fagan in the postgame press conference after they blew that lead to the Timberwolves. On Friday, that was Fagan's last game, I believe. And they honored him last night at the heat game. The center court gave him, I don't recall what they gave him, but they acknowledged him at the game right there at center court. I don't know, Jonathan, really? I probably did a few of those panel shows with him along the way on TV. You and I have done enough TV. I don't know that he's ever been part of the 610 family here, at least not while I've been here. I always enjoyed reading his stuff. He was excellent, excellent, actually, you couldn't ask for anybody better at covering your local basketball team. - No, and honestly, the simplest thing is what I've always appreciated him the most for, is just the game recaps. Like I feel like he did a really good job of just laying it out exactly what the pertinent issues were without hopping around all over the place. A lot of these young writers are so enamored of all the stats and everything, that it turns out, it feels like you're reading an advanced box score the whole time. They then throw in a couple of transitions to and call it an article. Like Fagan would write actual articles every night. - Yeah. - And you do feel like, oh yeah, that was the most important thing in this game. Yeah, or that was the critical moment in this game. Yes, thank you, Jonathan. - Usable, usable for guys. Usable for guys like us, especially guys like us, if it was a West Coast game. (laughing) And we didn't see the whole thing. I'm like, yeah, like his recaps were awesome. So congrats to Jonathan Fagan, who it sounds like is gonna do a lot of traveling in retirement from everything that I've read. He had a really good kind of like final piece that he wrote thanking everybody. If you're a fan of Jonathan Fagan or you're a fan of the Rockets, go out of your way to find it. It was really, really good. Congratulations to him on a great career in an industry where it is really hard to go out on your own terms. And he's going out on his own terms, so good for him. - He should have thrown the ball back to Doka, like he's checking the ball. - In the press. (laughing) - And just rifle it back at him aggressively. (laughing) - He'd won that game then maybe. Like it flew a 16-point lead. Greg Gumbel. - Acknowledged new IP. Greg Gumbel passes away over the weekend. If you're a sports fan at All in Town, you know Greg Gumbel, 'cause it feels like he called 100 Texans games over the last several years. Passes away in his late 70s cancer. He'd been suffering from cancer over the last several months, year two maybe. He'd been off the air for a while. I would say Seth synonymous with March Madness. That's probably the thing he's most known for is hosting that studio show with whoever through the years. But the last few years it's been Kenny Smith, Charles Barkley, Clark Kellogg. Obviously a big part of the NFL coverage. He was part of the nearly original group at Sports Center back in the day, in the 80s. That's where I went to, I graduated high school with his daughter, 'cause he worked in Bristol, he worked in Bristol, Connecticut. So they lived in my town. So Michelle Gumbel is a classmate of mine. Probably best known in Houston, or maybe not best known, but as far as Houston calls go that are iconic, Greg Gumbel on the kiss of death in 1995. - LA out of the corner for three in it. - Mario Ellie with a three with 7.1 seconds to play. Time out Phoenix. - They look at him talk to the Phoenix bench. How wide open was it? Cuma, one on the play though. - Mario Ellie, is that the stake through the heart for a second straight season by the Houston Rockets? - There you go. Kiss of death, man. One of the, I would say one of the three or four most famous plays in the history of this city, Mario Ellie, kiss of death. And Greg Gumbel was the one on the call for that one. - And also Jimmy Carter passed away yesterday as well. - Jimmy Carter, what's a college Jimmy Carter? - Acknowledged me. - He made it to triple digits, right? He was a hundo. - Yeah, he was in rough shape the last few years. You know, when people have Alzheimer's, he's just from a personal sample. He was the first president that I was ever aware of that was a president, 'cause I was five years old in 1980. So I was old enough to know who the president was, and that there was gonna be a new president. That was all I knew. I didn't know who the hell Gerald Ford was. - He was fine. - I was an infant when he was, yeah, Gerald Ford was the first president you were like consciously aware of. - Consciously aware of. I mean, I remember my parents like when I was real little saying stuff about Nixon resigning. Like, but I didn't really gather what that was all about. Yeah, like Gerald Ford was all like, "Oh, we elect these officials when they don't resign." - I knew my grandparents were the most political people I knew. So all I knew of Jimmy Carter was that I was not supposed to like Jimmy Carter, which is that's politics, baby. - That's so, it is politics. - The search for truth never ends. Introducing June's Journey, a hidden object mobile game with a captivating story. Connect with friends, explore the roaring 20s, and enjoy thrilling activities and challenges while supporting environmental causes. After seven years, the adventure continues with our immersive travels feature. 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Sean and Seth acknowledge different people within the sports landscape and look back at fond memories in today's installment of "Acknowledge Me"