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Texans are Three Point UNDERDOGS against the Titans ... WHY???
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We're here till 8 a.m. As usual, on a Texans Monday, even though the Texans played on Wednesday of last week, which threw everything off for me and others. But we're here now, man. We're back on a normal schedule and a normal week. We're ready to fight. We're ready to rock, man. Thank you. I'm in Thompson. Thank you. I'm in Thompson for getting our game faces on last night. That was a win scene. Good morning, by the way. How are you? I missed you. I'm good. Yeah, it's been a few days. Yeah, it's been a weird. It's weird. I lose more than I thought it would. I just, I, like yesterday, I had to remind myself, I was just kind of humming along doing my stuff. And then, because I had watched football on Saturday, it kind of caught me by surprise at noon that, oh, wait, there's football in today. Yeah, it's wild. Kind of, kind of. There's a very few meaningful games left. No, no, but it was American football on television. We watched it. It was. So that was, that was fun. Yeah. Yeah, the Rockets last night, man. We hadn't had one of those with them in a while. Last year, where it felt like every other game, there was some sort of peer six brawl during it. Some, at some, yeah, it was, it was, it was one of those things where, okay, they're making some progress here and they're doing some good things and put a lot of times we were just happy to have a fight. Yeah. Whereas yesterday, I'm kind of like, well, yeah, the fight's good and all, but also I would have liked to beat the heat. Yeah. Tyler, hero got hand in that whole thing, man. As I'm watching it, I'm like, he is the guy that can point at the scoreboard. For those who missed it, if you weren't up last night watching the Rockets, they lost to the Miami Heat. So they've lost too straight now and they've blown big leads in both games. The Minnesota game on Friday, they blew a 16 point lead, like midway through the fourth quarter. Yeah. That was bad. Yeah. That was really bad. Last night was a 12 point lead. They were down at the half. They went on a big run in the third quarter to take a 12 point lead and the way the Rockets have played this year, Seth, it was like, I was like, okay, well, this, this is one of those teams they just take care of business against and this will be just fine. And then the heat went on a run. It was back and forth. That was a very defensive game, you know, game finished. I think both teams were under a hundred in that game. But the big story was at the end of the game as, as the referees were losing control, specifically Mark Davis was losing control. That right. I'm in Thompson decided to grab Tyler, hero by the lapels and just toss him to the ground. With great force and velocity, it was so leading into it, it was there. The rocks were down by four coming out of time out, the 47 seconds left. Fred Van Vliet is having trouble inbounding the ball, calls the time out and the official Mark. What's his face? Mark Davis. Mark Davis just doesn't see him call a time out. He calls him for a five second violation. So he calls him for a five second violation and Fred Van Vliet says, sir, sir, I called the time out and Mark Edward says, there will be no objections. You will not question my authority and he tossed Fred Van Vliet or he gave him a technical and he tossed them. He tossed them. He tossed them. And then, and then within a few seconds, and I'm on Thompson's scrumming it up with Tyler, hero. I'd say it was just they were, then nobody at fault necessarily or they're both grabbing at each other. And then, then, then I'm on Thompson was guilty of just, just, just making Tyler, hero look like a toddler. Well, yeah. Thompson. Nothing you would ever throw a toddler to the ground like that. No, no, no. Just pretend it's 1947 or something, you know, that when that was a discipline, back when it was okay. Yeah. So that was just good parenting. So, so, and then it turned into a big scrum. Nobody left the bench. It was all scrums with guys that were on the floor. You leave the bench, you're getting popped for big time suspensions, these guys. Jalen Green was, I, it's so hard to, there's so many things going on when you watch it. Jalen Green was shoved to the ground and had somebody on top of them. Yeah. And like, it was actually kind of scary for him because there's all kinds of feet around and everything. Shangoon was kind of being a peacemaker. It was a, it was a big old scrum. Yeah. So it wasn't, you know, what would you call it? A fight fight. It was a fight by 2024 NBA standards, you know, it's not, it's very rarely do fiscuit thrown in these things anymore, you know, as these Al Shire wasn't out there. No, no, no, no, no, but I'm, there's a punch of, punch of dude. No, but I'm, and Thompson made a good case to get put into the circle of swarm this Friday. Yeah. There are no Texans to put in there after the performance Christmas. He's one of the swarmiest guys out there in Houston sports. He does, he plays ferociously and defense, definitely one of the swarmiest guys in the NBA. He's getting a lot of love right now for like defensive player, the year type stuff first team all defense. So yeah, that was kind of fun. You know, it was not fun that they lost and it's not fun that they've lost two in a row. They're irrelevant NBA team. They've been sitting at the two seed for the last couple of weeks. We'll have audio from everybody involved a little bit later in headlines with that. But that was, yeah, in case you were going to bed early last night and you missed it. If you're up with us this morning and you're on vacation, we thank you for that. If you're up with us this morning and who farted if we're, if you're up with us this morning and you're, and you're just, you're on your way into work. Good for you. You know, I would recommend getting a job where they don't, you know, you don't have to go into work today or whatever. But, but we're here for you. We're here for you for the next, next couple of hours. All right. So the Texans open as three point underdogs in Tennessee this coming weekend. The lines are out on week 18 of the NFL and there's going to be some weird lines because there's a handful of teams that don't have anything to play for. There's a handful of teams that have no playoff positioning to play for. There's a handful of teams that whose fan base is at least would rather they lose than win. Makes it a little more difficult to handicap. This Texans opening as a three point underdog in Tennessee this coming weekend seems to be a line to me. And I know the Titans beat the Texans back in week 12. I get that. They beat them 32 to 27 at NRG stadium. That was a game where the Texans had a pick six and eight sacks and still managed to find a way to lose to the Titans. Thank you, Kaimi Fairbairn for missing a field goal. But I would say even with that loss to the Titans in week 12 and even as poorly as the Texans have been playing and make no mistake, they played their worst game of the DeMico Ryan's era on Christmas day. That was their worst performance of the year that might have been their worst performance under DeMico Ryan's. They didn't score any offensive points and they lost 31 to two that the three, the Texans being a three point underdog at Tennessee is indicative of a line at least, Seth, where Vegas is expecting the Texans to rest a lot of guys in this game. I would say I think it's a combo of them expecting to rest a lot of guys. But that also the Texans offense with nobody resting the other night looked wholly inept. And that there's there's probably a combo of, okay, the Titans had their Texans number last time they played them. But then also, yeah, if everybody rests, then it's going to, it's going to be even worse. I would say if anything, the Titans beating the Texans last time in, in, in, in our G stadium would factor positively. If this were a game that weren't in week 18, let's pretend, yeah, let's pretend this was two weeks later, like last year's Titans game was. Yeah. That, that I would, I would think if anything, because you look at that game and everything in the box score, other than two massive plays by the Titans, everything in the box score, you put your hand over the final score, you would have said, okay, well, the Texans won this game. You know what I mean? Like they, you know, they had, they had a pick six in this game. They sacked Will Levis eight times in this game. So I, I think this thing, you're right. I mean, any line is a combo of things. It's never just one thing. Yeah. But I would say there's zero chance that the Texans would be an underdog in Tennessee, unless Vegas thought CJ Stroud wasn't going to play in this game. Yeah. If this was a game that mattered or what have you that, um, and honestly, I'm at the point now where all right, I, for the, for several weeks, I've been saying, man, they got to get something right with this offense. They got to figure it out. Okay. I know that the, the game of the Ravens might ultimately not matter that much. Maybe they don't even have a chance at the three seed, but I'd like them to possibly get the three seed and that they got to figure some things out offensively. That ship is sailed. That train is left. That's the station. Yeah. The, the baby carriage is rolling down the hill. The, the, the best thing you can do right this moment is what's with you, what, what's with you wanting to toss babies and roll them down hills this morning? I don't know. Did you, was there a baby at your Christmas festivities this past week that bothered you or a time? No. No. The, the youngest child that I interacted with was 10 years old and we had a delightful conversation. It's interesting to me. About cows. Okay. So yeah, we're good. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know, um, so, uh, well, I was struggling to come up with a third analogy and I, since the baby was fresh in my mind, the toddler was fresh in my mind. So, you know, groups of three, it's always good to do it in groups of three. So, um, or do a thing to a three year old toss a three year old. Right. So, uh, no, I looked, so that ship is sailed and the best thing you can do at this moment is at the very least get CJ as healthy as possible, get him rested. That game, and we'll talk about this later, you know, going back and watching, it's, it's so frustrating because it's multiple things at multiple positions right now that there are tiny things here and there, but it all adds up to, it all adds up to a huge mess. Right. Like, okay, man, if you could have had, if you could have held the pass protection for an eighth of a second longer, if Laramie Tunsel, like, we'll just say the missed opportunity to Dalton Schultz in the flat in that game. So, CJ is throwing the check down, but Dalton Schultz stays in to try to pick up the blitz. Meanwhile, Laramie Tunsel is getting trucked backwards, like he's a three year old. And that's just enough to delay the timing. And then, and then, like, you know, if, if, if, even then Laramie, if he had just gotten trucked back six inches less, that's probably a completion. Or if CJ maybe just maneuvers a little bit or makes the decision that much faster, it's a, it's a big completion in the first down, but you compound all of this and especially now without Tank Dell or Stefan Diggs out there, it's, there's just not enough speed on the field. Wow. There's just not enough speed. And it delays everything. And a couple of the sacks that CJ took on the TV copy, I thought, all right, well, that's CJ's fault. He's got to get rid of the ball. And then you look and you see him like, man, all right, well, he's just waiting for Cade Stover to clear through, he can throw to Steve Xavier Hutchinson, like so many instances like that. It's all these little micro fractions that add up to a disaster. And the only thing I can think of to fix that right now is A, play Deontay Johnson pretty fast. Yeah. And B, just get CJ as healthy as possible in the next two weeks. Well, and so, so does that change your opinion? I know we got to get to a break here. Does that change it? Cause there's, there's rumors of him being banged up now. Does that change your opinion of him play? You wanted him to play in this Tennessee game. Do you want him to play in this Tennessee game now? No, I don't know. I just not after that debacle from Wednesday that I won't even call it Christmas. Yeah. I don't know how much I'm with you on that. Like I say, you and I are both thinking like, I got to get these things fixed. What do you fix? How do you fix something that's been systemic for 17 weeks and 60 minutes against the Titans? Yeah. So, the line all of a sudden going to be just nails at picking up games, you know, is, is CJ going to be healthy? Is Xavier Hutchinson going to be faster or John, like it just, it's all, it's all such a mess that the only thing you can do right now is just try to rest up and get as healthy as possible. They're practicing at 1130 today. They, you know, it's, it's been a long weekend. So they are practicing today and Demigo Ryan's meets with the media at 1215. So we'll get some answers today. I would imagine. I would say layoff doing like 16 half gasters at the end of practice. Just, just go ahead and taper down for the playoffs. Take it down. All right. We're off and running. Taper, taper down. Taper down. Yep. We're off and running on a, on a Monday. Good to be with you. We got you covered here. All week long on sports. Seth and I are in all week. So we got you covered all week long here on pain and pender gas sports radio 610. If you were watching football this week and you saw Stefan Diggs commercial, I promise you you saw it. Was this shade at the Texans? You will play it for you coming. You just realized your business needed to hire someone yesterday. How can you find amazing candidates fast? Easy. Just use indeed. Stop struggling to get your job posts seen on other job sites. Indeed, sponsored jobs help you stand out and hire fast. With sponsored jobs, your post jumps to the top of the page for your relevant candidates so you can reach the people you want faster and it makes a huge difference. According to indeed data, sponsored jobs posted directly on indeed have 45% more applications than non-sponsored jobs. 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As bad as the Texans had played recently, and by recently I mean on Christmas, as bad as they played offensively all season long, they should not be an underdog to the Tennessee Titans on any field anywhere, including what will probably be a hapless, lifeless Nashville on Sunday. So there's that. Here's where they're at Seth with the playoffs and the standings. They cannot change their lot in life. They are now the four seed that losing to the Ravens cemented that. They are the four seed in the postseason. There is a 75% chance. And this sounds a little high to me, by the way, a 75% chance that they face the Steelers in the opening round of the playoffs. And the reason I say that sounds high to me, the Steelers play the Bengals in week 18. The Bengals are one of the hottest teams in football right now. If the Steelers lose in the Chargers beat, I believe they play the Raiders. They do. They play the Raiders, which feels like an incentivized Chargers team as hard as the Raiders have been playing under Antonio, but they're bad, but they've been playing hard under Antonio Pierce. That doesn't sound like something that has a 25% chance of happening. Like the Steelers losing and the Chargers winning. The Chargers play a bad team. The Steelers play what I think is a good team, but the Bengals are a good team right now. They've won four in a row and they are scoring points out the wazoo. That said, the computers are saying it's 75%. I would say it's the favorite, but 75% sounds a little bit high to me. Right. So let's just say it's a toss up between those two teams. Chargers stealers. It's going to be one of those. I do. There's a part of me that if you want to make it as simple as the quarterbacks and his style of play and everything else goes with that, Russell Wilson's just still got too many blemishes in his game. And that overall, even though they've done some good things offensively, I don't think it's anything that they can bank on, the fear would be all right. But Russell Wilson to George Pickens, he's they've only some bombs versus some good defenses in the Texans. Defense will generally play really, really well, except for the plays where they play atrociously. And I could totally envision George Pickens having two long touchdowns against the Texans. But on the sum total of it, I just respect Justin Herbert Moore as a quarterback. And you know, both those, the Chargers defense is good, but the Steelers defense is the Steelers defense. That's the only thing that that swings me back over towards the Pittsburgh. Well, I think a big, for me, a big thing with Pittsburgh is the games at NRG Stadium. If they play the Chargers, it'll be a home field advantage. If they play the Steelers, it's going to be, it's going to be half the crowd's going to be Steelers fans. Yeah. Good call. Good call. And I'm with you. Like in the grand scheme of things, I think I'd rather play Pittsburgh and Russell Wilson, and especially I'm probably a little traumatized after watching from beginning to end the Chargers and the Patriots because it was our good friend, Ross Tucker doing the color commentary on that game. Watch the entire game. The Chargers just steamroll a bad Patriots team. So I'm like, Oh, this doesn't look like a team I'd want to play in the first round of the playoffs right now if I'm the Houston Texans. That's the only thing that's keeping me a little bit tentative about the Steelers is just what it's going to be the complete opposite of what the wildcard round game was last year against the Browns where it was it was one of those environments for Texan fans where you were like, wow, they're back. This feels like 2011 all over again. What is the percentage chance that it's the Ravens? It's like five percent. It's like five percent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We need that. I need that. I need that ticket to come in. If it's the Ravens, I cannot handle the week leading up to that game and the amount of the amount of pessimism and or just flat out apathy we're going to get from our listeners or just the appropriate and justified doom and gloom that it would be if it was going to be the Ravens. Yeah. Yeah. We're already in a pretty strange place. It's a pretty gloomy and gloomy place. Yeah. Yeah. It's already regardless of who the opponent is, like this offense has people very angry right now. I don't know if Stefan digs is angry or if he's just having fun. But if you missed it, Stefan digs and we played some audio last week. Stefan digs is occupying his time these days, doing two things, rehabbing his knee injury and doing dominoes commercials, you know, commercials for the emergency pizza the dominoes likes to provide. He's providing what is it, a million emergency pizzas or something like that to people over the course of the, of the, uh, the holiday football season here. This was a commercial dominoes did yesterday. Listen to the very end where the dominoes delivery lady brings up seemingly the Texans offense. When you order dominoes online, we'll give you a free pizza to use in the future. How much was the season? It's the fun thing. You'll have an emergency pizza when you need it most. Thank you. Oh, man. Only a domino. I'm going to miss you out there. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Okay. That was that, that was the, that was the commercial added to you asking me about me hating babies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan, it sounds like the opening segment is playing underneath that audio. When you order dominoes online, we'll give you a free pizza to use in the future. Now for the seasons, the fun things will have to watch this one from home. So you'll have an emergency pizza when you need it most. Thank you. All good? Only a dominoes. They really miss you out there. Huh? Tell me about it. Oh. Tell me about it. It only took until the, the second to last day of the year while yesterday was the third to last day of the year for Stefan Diggs to say something this time on traditional media, not social media. Right. That might be considered divisive. If this is a team, if this is a team where people actually were even checked in emotionally right now, they would be, I rate about this. I, yeah. That's messed up. It was a, it was a good little moustache yesterday. I'm like, Oh, when I saw that commercial, I'm like, Oh, what's X saying about this right now? And there were a few people. They were like, Hey, Hey, here's a thing that Stefan Diggs was not getting a lot of Seth pushback on his opinion and it's about the second, about the Texans offense. I'd love to argue with you, but yeah, it's kind of, you know, especially, especially with tank Delgon and my, my big impression after watching the offense, you know, rewatching that game, which was a miserable experience was, man, there's just not a lot of speed out there. There's, there's everything is plotting and slow and gunky and it showed me nice to have tank. Because it's tank Del and Stefan Diggs, whether they were producing or not, like at a high, high level, it was, it was a problem for defenses. There's a lot of speed to be accounted for when those guys were out on the field. Well, you know, who was producing at a super, super high level with the two of them out there Niko Collins. Yeah. You know, Niko Collins and, and Niko still, you know, he's still, you know, three catches 60 yards, 74 yards, he's got, he's, but since coming back, he's had one 100 yard game. Well, and there's just, it's, there've been too many drops by Niko. It's not like all of a sudden has horrible, horrible hands or anything. But there are some big strikes that he's had opportunities to make in the last couple of weeks that he didn't make. So it just, yeah, everything, everything feels like you're running on fumes right now. And yes, they could use, they could use stuff on dig speed out there. I could do without his shots at how bad they look without him. Dang it. How surprised by that. What, what, watching that commercial and like, did he just, he basically just say, yeah, they sure do miss me. You know, you know, these shoots go, they probably, you know, they probably had them read off 20 different lines and that was the one that they liked and it worked. I mean, he would, he, I don't know, man. Was he paying attention to all the lines he was reading? Like literally he just said, tell me about it. He doesn't mind. He's got this reputation as a diva and he doesn't want to be a diva. So he's like, I'm not going to sit here on the commercial set and say, no director. I will not read that line. Well, that's true. He didn't want to be a commercial diva. So he ends up being a diva to his old team by pointing out how miserable it is without him. Does this affect at all your desire to have Stefan digs back as a Houston Texan next year? No, no, I'm not worried about it either. I can beggars can't be chooser. They probably will not. It looks like they won't have tanked L next year. You know what I mean? Like you got to get guys. You need at least one other guy, a defense respects and then actually that applies to this game against Tennessee in the postseason as well. They needed it to your point. They need another guy out there. The defense has to respect that ain't John Metchy, that ain't Xavier Hutchinson, it ain't Robert Woods. Um, it ain't Jared Lane. It's Deontay Johnson, Jared, yeah, not Jared Wayne unless you want to have another tank del situation. The, um, you know, Kylie Wong at a similarly horrific knee injury and you know, Kylie was a linebacker, wasn't, you know, nearly nobody's as fast as tank del, uh, but I remember he came back, he got injured midway through the 2005 season. Okay. Uh, and it was ugly. It was really bad. I think he tore all his, all his ligaments, the ACL, MCL, PCL, but he came back and played the next season and it had a hard time with it, you know, that was DeMico's rookie year. And, uh, I remember, I remember sitting in the training room with Kylie who was just putting on a heroic effort to be out there playing and, uh, and I just relayed to him what Brandy had said while she was watching, which was that DeMico makes all the plays that Kylie used to make and, uh, I was saying it more as, uh, I was saying it more as a compliment to DeMico. And Kylie was just like, thanks, Seth, like Kylie was there about to make the play. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, DeMico comes flying in and, uh, that was just kind of how it went for. I'm looking at it. Um, and that was Kylie's last year was 2006. He played 10 games, didn't start in any games, played in 10 games. And that was it. Um, so that, well, that doesn't make me feel good about 10. Well, it's 20 years later, you know, I just, I got to just hope and think it's funny. I had, I had multiple ACL tears in my career or at least multiple ACL surgeries. I had a botched revision I had to do. Um, and I used to think of myself kind of as an expert on ACL repairs and then I realized in having a conversation with a doctor last year like, oh, I don't know squat about how they do things these days. Yeah, he was explaining how they probably would do it differently this day and age and where maybe I would have recovered better, whatever. So yeah, I just, I would hope that especially with a lot of the, uh, you know, the growth factors and everything they use now, maybe, maybe it's way more realistic than it was back in the day. I hope so, man. I hope so. I feel horrible. I feel horrible for tank. Do you think that Deontay Johnson gets a normal wide receivers amount of snaps in this game? That's the, that's a, uh, million dollar question in terms of, Hey, if you're gambling on this game, all right, if Davis mill starts and you've still got, I, I don't know why they would rest any of the offensive linemen. I'm curious to see where those guys went on vacation, by the way, but, uh, on this little mini bi week. Yeah. So there's that, uh, but we'll, uh, yeah, I'd like Deontay Johnson to get as ingrained in the offense as possible. So he doesn't need any rest. He, he got a good chunk of the rest up there in Baltimore. It's the best thing all year. Yeah. I'll find that magical Davis Mills Deontay Johnson connection if CJ is not going to play. I was going to lead us to the promise land, the Davis Mills Deontay Johnson connection. All right. Let's get to headlines, uh, rockets lose to the heat last night, but there was a fight at the end of the game. We'll get, we'll hear from all the parties involved on that. What does the NFL playoff picture look like after this weekend hall of fame finalists? We got a lot of stuff to get into in headlines and we will do it next, pain and tender gas with today's headlines. All right. Rockets lose last night to the, um, to the Miami heat, take that music down a little bit Jordan. That's a little bit loud, um, rockets lose to the Miami heat last night. That was the big story locally. This was a another game, 104 to 100, the final score. The game played kind of in the, in the mid nineties for most of the fourth quarter and then a lot of technical fouls and free throws at the end of the game because there was a fight. Yeah, there was a fight at the end of this game. The rockets blew a double digit lead in the second half and the heat were up four points with under a minute to go in the game and the rockets are trying to inbound the ball. And Fred Van Bleek gets called for a five second violation when he was clearly signaling for a timeout before five seconds, I thought and so did the announcers on the game. Craig Ackerman and Ryan Hollins, who Doka certainly thought so, Vin Ble thought so enough to where he got teed up and got kicked out of the game. Uh, who Doka eventually got kicked out of the game as well because I'm one of the ensuing inbound's plays, um, with, you know, 20 seconds to go or so, something like that. I'm in Thompson and Tyler hero of the heat got into it with each other, grabbing each other's jerseys. And then eventually I'm in Thompson, tossed Tyler hero to the ground, like hard. Yeah, pretty hard. Pretty hard. Um, I'm in Thompson gets kicked out, email, Doka gets kicked out. There's a whole big kerfuffle out there. No punches were thrown, but I'm guessing that I'm in Thompson will probably get a suspension of some sort, maybe a game, something like that. There'll be a lot of fines, a lot of charities are going to get some money this week. Here was email, who Doka asked the game on his view of what happened between Thompson and hero. I just forget, I didn't see a lot, but I re watched it and they were in each other's face bump chest a little bit and one guy storming in the other one got stronger than the other. At the first time, it was good, it was good. Here was, here was Tyler hero's version of what happened. I guess that's what happens when someone's scoring, throwing dimes, doing the whole thing. So I get mad too. Okay. That's he's allowed to do that. His team one and Tyler hero was outstanding last night. He scored 27 points, six, I'm sorry, nine assists in the game. He had a really good game. It also helped, you know, that the Rockets missed 11 straight shots as part of squandering that lead. No doubt. So the fact that it was, the fact that it was on Thompson, I feel really good about just because it's not like this is some fake tough guy thing out of him. He's legit. He's been a scrappy, awesome defender all year long. And you know, he admitted that there's frustration mounted the fact the way the game was going and then however he did they were after the after Fred Van Vlietz injustice that he suffered. It was, it was contentious that I like, look, we know that this team can be scrappy. We know they play good defense. So it's not like all of a sudden, I think, Oh, look, okay, now they're a real tough team. I think it for me, it's more of a highlight. Yeah. A lot of the frustration was mounting because yet again, they cannot shoot the shooting of the basketball kind of an issue in modern basketball. You know, you and I, you and I have talked a lot about the parallels between the Rockets and the Texans throughout this, throughout really the whole trajectory of the rebuild. You know what I mean? Like from, from the time that Deshawn Watson and James Harden requested trades within days of each other, the trajectory of both of these franchises had been very, very similar in terms of they both bought them out. They both bring in coaches that we know you can feel are short timers before you find the culture center in e-mail or Demico Ryan's. And I would say the, the analogy continues to hold up to this very day, given the fact that the thing that seems to fail these teams, these two teams, both good teams by definition, right? They're right. It would be, you know, the Rockets would be a high level playoff team right now the season ended today. The Texans are a playoff team and they won their division. So by definition, I know people don't want to hear that about the Texans right now because of how wins the very least, right. They're nine, they're nine and seven, like they're not a bad football team as it's similar with the Rockets. And similarly, it's the offense. It's failing both of you have, you have zero concerns over the, the dog level of the defensive portions of these teams. And I don't have any concern with the Rockets dog level overall. I have a major concern with the Texans dog or swarm level as we'll call it with the Texans on the offensive side of the football. Boy, you talk about the, the lame dog coaches too, as far as just the, the temperament of them where like, Lovey Smith is a Lovey Smith, I don't, like, I got no, like, I got no issues with that. Like he would have been a perfect bridge coach, but the David Colley and Steven Silas, both their gentlemen, I think, you know, and that's a, it wasn't, wasn't quite the feel of what you wanted out of your football team and, or football or basketball team. So with, with Demico, Demico, the thought I had as I was listening to an article about the Jets debacle was, man, I wonder if, I wonder if Demico and his transition to becoming a head coach would be a lot easier, like a genuine head coach where he's not the defensive coordinator and the head coach, but just the overall head coach. Robert Salah would be an awesome defensive coordinator to have. And I like, I like Matt Burke. I think he and Demico work really well together, but Demico might just trust Robert Salah more because of the common ground and shared experiences and everything. And, and Robert Salah is a head out, a hell of a defensive coordinator. So that's a, that's something to monitor a couple of weeks from. I think so too. I think that second behind the offensive side of the ball is, yeah, should Demico Ryan's be more of a CEO, you know, should, should he have less hands on play to play with the defense? Yeah. And I don't think, cause I don't think Robert Salah is going to get a head coaching opportunity real quick. And it's a, it's a shame because none of the Aaron Rodgers or quarterback stuff in general was his fault at all. And yet I think that's the, he lost a lot of his shine as a head coach just because it was such a debacle and a mess the entire time. Yeah, it sucks. If your team doesn't get the quarterback situation right, it's, it's going to reflect poorly on your record. I'm speaking to NFL playoff picture coming into focus. The Colts are out. They lost to the giants yesterday. So they are out of the playoffs. The Chargers clinched a spot on Saturday against New England and there is, according to the computers, a 20% chance that the Texans could see the Chargers in the first round of the playoffs. The heavy favorite right now is it, it'll be the Steelers coming into town. We talked about this a little bit in the open, but the preference, the pain and pender gas preference seems to be. At least in terms of matching up with rosters, the Steelers would be, you know, just based purely on Russell Wilson versus Justin Herbert, right? Yeah. Russell Wilson versus Justin Herbert, you know, I got, I think the Steelers defense would probably present more issues than the Chargers defense, but you also brought up the great point of man, if it's a Steelers, it's going to be half Steelers in that crowd. And it may be more because of the way people feel about the team right now. And Steelers fans travel, they don't just travel well. They are everywhere. They're everywhere. They're our Steelers. There are, there's probably, there's probably at least 500,000 Steelers fans in the state of Texas. Yeah. In the state of Texas. I don't know what the percentage would be. But yeah. So they, they, they come in and definitely in the entire region. So boy, if you actually want to have a genuine home field advantage, it almost needs to be the Chargers. The, I mean, the Ravens, I think you get the home field advantage. I just, I, I have no interest in seeing the, there's a fine for the reasons that springing up the Ravens. There's a 5% chance they play this. It's going to be one of those three teams, heavy favorite is the Steelers to be the team they play. Next would be the Chargers, the Ravens, the Ravens would have to lose to the Browns. That's where I flipped. By the way, Sean, I've been saying before that man, depending on the situation, yeah, rest your guys versus Tennessee, because that's a classic. Okay. Last game. Meaningless. Makes sense. Rest some guys. Sure. If it's, if it's a meaningless game, um, but I had been saying, well, no, I'd rather face the Ravens at home if I want to make a playoff push because that's your best chance of beating the Ravens. I've abandoned all hope of that at this point. And I'm just saying, all right, no, I'd like, okay, let's get at least a victory. You got to do something. Yeah. I don't need to see the Ravens at home. I don't need to see the Ravens again. Please. Yeah. Please baby Jesus. No. Yeah. Just keep them away from me as long as possible. Nothing to do with them. What nothing to do with them, um, 15 Hall of Fame finalists have been named, uh, the class of 2025 will be announced. It'll typically, it's a five person, a five man modern era class and it includes, you know, and then they'll add on a coach and a contributor and things like that. So five of the 15 finalists, uh, will end up being Hall of Famers. The big names on the list to Eli Manning is the headliner in terms of name value. Um, Seth has a former teammate on this list, not from the Texans, but from Jacksonville, Fred Taylor makes a 15 Seth, I'm, uh, I'm, I'm not optimistic that he's going to make it just because he's, I think he's a compiler. People of you and as a compiler, um, despite, I mean, he had some brilliant seasons, but without being on a high profile team and without having won a Super Bowl, they don't tend to reward the compilers to the same way they, they might, somebody else from a more dominant team. No. And they, in recent years, they've, they've been very friendly to guys who are the opposite of a compiler, like a Terrell Davis getting in, you know, who's four great years and then he got a knee injury like he's in, he's a Hall of Famer. Um, I would say to me the biggest lock in this class should be, it's probably Eli, but it should be Luke Keekley in my opinion, who I think fits that sort of description that I just had of Terrell Davis in a way, like Luke Keekley didn't leave the game because of injuries that we know of, but he was in the league for what? Like seven years and he was a first team all pro practically every year. He was the best inside linebacker in football for like a six year period. Yeah. He should be the biggest lock in my opinion. Keekley is a slam dunk, uh, Suggs, Suggs is way up there on the career sax list. So is Jared Allen. He's been up for about five years or so, but I think Jared Allen was a, Jared Allen was a little bit, there's a little bit of mark gas to note his game. I think in some ways, um, like the, not as much substance as a guy like Terrell Suggs. Yeah. I think too, when you play for like five different teams, like he did, you know, like there is something when you look at these guys and you go, Oh yeah, Reggie Wayne was a cold, his whole career. There's something, there's some sort of charm about a guy being with one team his whole career. You know, the interesting thing about Fred Taylor is that everybody above him, the, in the career rushing yardage is in everybody that's above him is except for that's eligible as in Frank Gore is not in, but he's not eligible yet. Um, Adrian, Adrian Peterson who's not, he's going to make it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, that's why I've always looked at Fred Taylor was like, he's the, cause I think Gore gets in like the ultimate compiler, but I think he gets in. Yeah. Fred Taylor, man. Good player. Good player. Obviously he's a Hall of Fame finalist. Um, all right. Those are your headlines from the weekend. Okay. Nevermind. I just looked at the guy above him like Thurman Thomas and Fred Taylor played the exact same number of years. Yeah. Um, and yeah, it's because Thurman Thomas obviously was on really good teams and had, yeah, it was just, it's a different story. Yep. Uh, all right. Um, I've started seeing a trend on social media and it involves CJ Stroud and it needs to stop, but it does, it does beg the question. What exactly is wrong with CJ Stroud this year as compared to last year? We'll get to that coming up next looking for a financial institution that has fewer fees, better rates and gives back to the local community. 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HOUR 1 - Sean and Seth break down this upcoming matchup to end the regular season between the Texans and Titans, go through "HEADLINES" and more.