Unlikely Frenz
Unlikely Frenz: Episode 10: Immigration and Indignation
- Hmm. - What we were talking about last week with those stupid ancient alien things, but I have something to say about that. - Oh, there's all kind of like drone activity going on right now. You've got a list. - 'Cause I was watching televisions. I watched the real news. - The fake news. I just watched the like-- - He says, "I just watched the fluff news." - I watched the whipped cream of the news. - Yes. - Damn, record. - Hit the damn record. He worked the cards, something. (upbeat music) - Hey, friend. - Hey, friend. - Welcome to the unlikely friends podcast. - We're two friends living abroad talking about race, race relations, and-- - Yes, how we feel about it, what it means to us, and maybe some gossip. - And some gossip. If you are watching on YouTube, please like, share, and subscribe, and hit the notification bell so that you know when we post a new video. So ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And I want to throw in a caveat for today. All of the information that you are going to consume today is alleged, and this is for entertainment purposes only. - Ooh, I'm so curious. That is, that's enticing. What are we gonna talk about? Oh my gosh, okay. - One of the things that I wanted to talk about is white immigration. But before we get into white immigration, remember last week I said to you that I fell into this rabbit hole watching like, you know, Anunnaki, and ancient aliens and all that goes up. - Yes, which has dawned on me. It dawned on me. I was like, you know what? When it comes to Stonehenge and Gebek de Tepe, and all that good stuff in these white areas, it was always the people that did this. But when it's in the brown, it's in Africa, or you know, in some country where brown people live, it's ancient aliens. I'm like, when it's white, when it's white territory. Egypt was built by slaves. I mean, right? - No. - We don't, we don't think it's aliens, do we? - No, we don't, but it wasn't built by slaves. Either they weren't slaves that built the pyramids. - Oh, well, I always... - No, these were-- - I don't know about that. Are you sure about that? - No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw a document coming up. - Do we have the pay slips for that? Because I wanna think that it was for all of these slaves. - Yeah, we'll build them. - But that's just one of the things. People say that it was built by slaves, but actually, it wasn't because they said, I don't have the proof right in front of me, but I'm just going over my memory, yeah. They said that these were paid workers, 'cause it took like long time to build-- - They want people make this documentary. (laughs) - They said it took anywhere between 20 and 25 years to build a pyramid, one pyramid. So, these were like literal communities, because when the pharaoh first comes into power, they're like, oh, he's a little boy, usually. Start building a pyramid. - A little boy that can't walk. - Right, start building a pyramid. So, they have these, all of these communities of goldsmith, people that make blocks and things like that. - Stone masons. - Stone masons, thank you. - There you go. - There's stone masons, huh? Okay. Stone masons. - I don't know where that came from, I just went through the files. - Hey, baby, you got it, didn't you? But what I'm saying is that there was a whole community, and it was what we call like socialism, if you will. These people were fed, they were housed, they had medical, they had everything that they ever needed, the only thing that they needed to do. - I need to see this documentary. - Was build that damn pyramid, when I find it, I'll send it to you. - Oh gosh, okay. You said, is this like a popular belief that like aliens built things in Africa? - Yeah, and not only in Africa, but also in, you know, South America and, you know, when it-- - Oh, where the brown people live. - Yeah, where the brown and black people live. When it comes to the, oh no, humans could not have possibly done that, must have been aliens. But when it's Stonehenge, or some silly shit in Europe, it was, you know, it was the normal white folks. It was just, I thought about it, and it made me a bit angry, and I was just like, damn these people. - Never heard that, I've never heard that, but that sounds really, it sounds ridiculous, but it sounds like it could possibly, it wouldn't be true that somebody would think that. - Damn these people. - What about those giant statues? What are they, the giant statues that are, they didn't realize were under the earth also? - On Easter Island. - Yes, that's right, Easter Island. Do you, what's your take on that, was that aliens? - No, that people built those things. - Yeah, right. - They built those things, they built those things, you know, to appease their water gods, or whatever it was. - Mm-hmm, they spent a lot of time making that. - They defarced it the whole island moving those things. Easter Island was full of trees until they defarced it. If you look on the internet right now, if you open the internet right now and look up-- - Defarastation? - Yes, thank you. Defarastation, if you looked up deforestation and soil erosion, Easter Island will come up. That'll be the first search bar. - Dang. - Okay. - Because they destroyed that island building those stupid statues. - Well, I mean, they obviously had real beliefs in these statues, so. (upbeat music) - Yeah. (gasps) Oh, I forgot to say, did you hear about that guy that shot the CEO of that? - Lord have mercy. Who hasn't heard about it? - My goodness. - Whoa. - My goodness. - Whoa, I know, I keep making up a lot of conversation. - People are so angry, angry at that woman that turned this kid in. I don't know, I have mixed feelings about it. I really don't because-- - Yeah, right, I do too. - Because, you know, the insurance companies, they really rake people over the coals in America. They really, really do. Even though I think something should be done about it, I don't think that murder is the way. - Right, right, that's exactly how I feel. - But on the other hand, I mean, this man, this young man, was in pain. He was debilitating the pain for years. And for years, the insurance company just would like, no, when I do it. - He, really? - Yeah, I didn't hear that part. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I just heard that he-- - He had a manifesto. - No, no, no, he had some kind of spinal problem. I'm not exactly, I think it's where the spine fuses together. And he was in constant pain, constant pain. And he had gotten surgery and all that good stuff. And every time he went to the insurance company, because you're paying money every month to the insurance company for your-- And they never did, and they were like, no, we're not paying for it. We're not paying for this for years. It's like, for what do you have an insurance if the insurance doesn't pay for anything? It didn't make sense. And a lot of people came out with these stories and they're like, we were paying through the nose, monthly premiums and all this good stuff. And the insurance company never paid for anything. This one woman, African American woman, she has two children and unfortunately, both of her children are not disabled, what's the word? Misshapen, if you will? I don't wanna say deform, either. But their hands are like, they don't have all, let's put it this way. They don't have all of their appendages on their hands and their feet are also misshapen. - Okay. - So they can't walk. They need these motorized wheelchairs. And the woman went to the insurance company. She was like, look, the doctor said that we need, you know, this type of wheelchair. The insurance company said, no. This is as long as a child, the long as a child has a four finger and a thumb, he can use a normal wheelchair. - Right. Yeah, I've heard a lot of stories about how difficult that particular insurance company is to work with, both for doctors and for patients. Like I follow this psychiatrist online and he had this whole rant about like, trying to get payment from this particular insurance agency. And he was like, it was the most difficult. And he said, eventually I just said, I don't take them because it was so hard for me to put my paperwork through and I always had to call somebody. I always had, he said, on a typical day, I wouldn't have to do that with any other insurance company. When he was like, I think it was when he was just starting and he didn't, he had to do all of the paperwork on his own. You know? He didn't have somebody else to help him out with it. So we had like real experience one to one with the insurance company. I agree with you. I don't think that killing someone is the answer. But something needed to shift. - Yeah, something needed to shake them up. - And I hate that I don't wish death on anybody. I don't think that that's the way to answer any kind of problem. And unfortunately, it has shaken up the whole conversation about it, you know? And I guess in that way it's been a positive thing. God, I don't even want to say it's positive because someone died, you know? I mean, oh my God. - Yeah, it's difficult to say that it's a positive thing because it's the death of somebody. But it's almost like this, for lack of a better phrase, Robin Hood-esque archetype. - That kind of- - That it's taken on. And I think that's why a lot of people just like, "Yeah, good for him, he should." But on the other side it's like, "Ugh, somebody died." - Yeah. - But okay, great. If somebody's death is going to wake up society about this, okay, there was this one woman that I saw on TikTok and she, I think she is a immigrant to the United States from Russia. But she got on this whole long rant about, oh, what is America devolving into? She, he was a human, he was somebody's father, he was somebody's brother, he was somebody's blah, blah, blah. Meanwhile, this woman has the biggest diamond ring on her finger and she has the biggest emerald diamond and crusted earrings on her ears. And everybody dragged her for feels like, how do you know, I mean, you don't need health insurance, you are probably so rich, you can go in there and pay for any procedure that you want. You know, the normal working folk can't, they can't. And unfortunately that's where a lot of white immigrants go wrong. (upbeat music) A lot of white people who immigrate into the United States are welcomed and well, they should be. If they are immigrating because of economic hardship or, you know, political persecution or whatever the case may be. Or they just want a better life. Everybody wants a better life, right? Then you are most definitely welcome in the United States. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for black and brown people and they make that known. So because white immigrants believe or know that they are more likely to be welcomed into the United States because of their whiteness, they don't understand American racism, they don't understand why people can't pick themselves up by the boost drops, they don't understand. Because first of all, homelessness does not really exist in especially in Eastern black countries, like in Romania, Bulgaria. Yes, you have people who are on the lower spectrum, but nobody lives on the street. Why? Because they have a social net, they have a social security there where the government takes care of people even at the most minimum. Nobody's living on the street, everybody has a place to eat. You might not have a car, but you have a place to sleep and you can get food. - You know what's interesting? I went on a, just to add to that, I went on a tour with a mutual friend of ours, we were traveling together. And she said, "Dasma, do you want to go on a homeless tour?" And I was like, "What is that?" Sounds interesting. Sounds like something I definitely wouldn't have chosen to do myself, but it was a tour about, well, it came from a person that was unhoused and they took us through what it's like and how the system has helped them and how it supported them. But there were some parts of the conversation that led me to believe that Syrian refugees were coming in and that they were not as welcome as this person that was giving the talk. And I could feel that in the conversation, definitely. Regardless, it was interesting to know that they have such a strong commitment to keep people at least warm and fed and there are like even opera tickets and things like that, library, things, a whole system that is there for you. Veterinary care, you know. Anyway. - They do get some assistance. If they come into the country legally, they do get assistance. I don't think that there's any one type of person who doesn't get some type of assistance. All people get assistance when they come here. Now, if that assistance is long-term, it's something different. But what my point of this whole thing is is that a lot of white immigrants come into this country and they don't understand how our racism works. I'm saying our racism, like we have ownership, but they don't understand how it works. And they're like, well, you know, I came to this country and I didn't have anything. All I had was $20 in my pocket and I made it. But you also have to understand that you are given leeway because of your skin color. You are giving an opportunity because of your skin color. You will not see black and brown people get the same opportunity that you get when they come into the country because it's just not there for them because they are, you know, unwelcome, not wanted. I mean, even if they come into the country legally. (laughing) So where did this all come up? How did you, how did you? - I was listening to a girl speak about this. She is from an Eastern European black country. - Okay. - Russian control. I don't want to say exactly which country. But these countries are, you know, they had communism, socialism and all that good stuff. - Right. - And that's fine. A lot of people wanted to escape communism. So a lot of these people, her parents, her grandparents immigrated into the United States to get away from it. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that this girl, she was trying to make it clear that white immigrants have it much, much easier than black and brown immigrants. And she herself is a white immigrant herself. And she saw what the differences were. She was just like, you people have no idea. You have absolutely no idea how easy we have it as white immigrants coming into the United States. And that kind of opened my eyes because I never thought about it before. I thought all immigrants were treated the same in the United States, but they aren't. - No, I could definitely see where, just because of the nature of racism and how it works in that particular country in our homeland, that you probably would be looked at differently, you know? I mean, you would see, you would see like a white person and say, oh, they're exotic. - Yeah. - You know, like, oh, they're interesting. Let's, you know, learn about whatever. And then you would, I mean, I'm just saying from a general standpoint, I'm thinking this is probably what the atmosphere is, you know? And then if you see someone with dark skin or a person of color or whatever it is, oh, I'm gonna think about that person differently. Just because of the nature of how generally people think in the U.S., I could see how that would be. I could definitely see that. I never thought about it either. I've never. - It never crossed my mind until I saw this girl speak about it, just like, oh, snap, really? It could never cross my mind. - Also, how awful was it during the pandemic and how people from Asian countries were treated? That was awful. - That was really awful. That was really awful. That was so bad. - Terrible. It was unnecessary. It was unnecessary, period. But it was unnecessary violence against Asian people. It's like, look, are you kidding me? You think that every Asian person came over here with the coronavirus? Or do you think they're born with coronavirus in them? - Right. - Right. - It was just so silly. (upbeat music) - Hey, friends, this is the section of the video where I have to offer a trigger warning. This section is unfortunately a bit sensitive and it's about people unaliving themselves. So if you are sensitive to this type of content, please move forward to the next chapter. Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you very much, Deuces. - So I've got a totally random story. Totally random, but something in our conversation made me think of it. I was on the train with my friend. I don't think I told you about this. We were on a train together going to London from Stoke on Trent. And we, it was supposed to be a very quick, one, two hour quick journey, like a fast train. So we get in and we're all excited and we've got like our little lunch and we've packed like champagne and just we're gonna have a nice little trip on the train. - Champagne on the train? - Yeah. Yeah, like a little bubbly, like a little small bubbly, you know, it was really nice. Anyway. - That was cute, okay. - Yeah, so we're on our way and we're probably about 20, 30 minutes in and the train slows and it stops. Now, sometimes that can happen. I mean, you know, they have to, the trains are a big deal in England. You know, sometimes you have to wait for another train to pass. - This is a fast train? - Yeah. So it slowed slowly and we were kind of all stopped there and, you know, nobody's thinking anything of it. People on their phone, on the computer, whatever, we're just chatting. And then the conductor gets on and he says, we've had to stop because there's been an accident and he said, there's been a fatality. - No. - And that was exactly, the whole train did exactly that. (gasps) Like, what? - Oh no. - So we were like, oh my gosh, what? And so then Sam starts to explain things to me. Like, she's like, okay, so this is how our day is probably going to go now. Like, we'll probably have to be here for a little while. Like maybe three to four hours, the police have to come. They have to do an investigation. Then they have to do something with the train because the train, you know, and a whole thing anyway. So, yeah, so that happened. And we were on the train for like four hours, which we were only supposed to go on the train for like an hour, but we were there for a long time. And during that time, I started asking questions like how often is this, is this something that happens, you know, like I just, I don't really know, I don't know much about this. And I certainly have never been in a train that has led to someone's ending their life. And so we get to London and then I see everywhere, like in King's Cross, there's signs everywhere, you know, delays, delays, train, delay, delay, delay, delay, because it had affected so many different people travel by day. - Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Apparently, it is so common that there's one almost every day. - What? - Yeah, and generally they're males. - Oh my God, what a violent way. - David, I know, I was like, what in the world? Now, here's the thing, like I started to think about it. I was like, well, why would someone, there's, it's a country with no guns. I mean, yeah, people have them, but it's not easy to get. So like whenever you're trying, that's fast, I don't know, I don't know, but it was so strange. And then the whole day just felt kind of sad. - Yeah. - And like, oh my gosh, we were, like that was the, we were on that train. Now, we were not responsible. Never mind the conductor of the train. Can you imagine? - You know, I was just saying, if I were the conductor of that train, I would be completely traumatized. - Oh, and they don't, I think a lot of them, if that happens, they don't, they don't continue to work. - How could you? - No, you couldn't. I mean, maybe you could if you're going through therapy, but like, and if it's a fast, there's literally nothing you can do. - There's literally nothing you can do. I mean, by the time the train stops, that body is already in bits. - It's awful, awful. - But you know what, can I tell you why we don't hear about this in the United States? Or why we don't have things like this in the United States? Because if you really think about it, there is no train system in the United States. - There is, well, I mean, you know, - Not like big cities. - In big cities, that's different, but I'm talking like, if I wanted to get from Delaware to Virginia, there is no train that can take me there. There are buses, yes, but there are no trains. - It might be now. - Mm-hmm, do you wanna know why? Like, if I wanted to take a train from, there should be-- - That's not like there, I agree with you. - Exactly, it's not like in your pain countries, you can literally get a train to West bubble fuck somewhere. You can get a train. (laughing) You can get a train and a train would pick you up and pick you back. (laughing) - That's exactly the name of a place. - Exactly, West bubble fuck. You can get a train there and back and in the United States, you can't, like for instance, if I wanted to take a train from Colorado to Arizona, there's no train. - There is, but it's very difficult. Listen, because I'm taking the train. - Have you taken a train from California to New York? - No, but I know that you can, but it's an arduous journey and it's probably very, it's all kinds of-- - And it's not like a fast train. - No, no, no, no, no. - What I'm trying to say is you probably could get a train from California to Newark. You probably could get a train from West bubble fuck to East bubble fuck, whatever. You probably could, but they're not fast trains, they're not innovative, they're not like the trains that you find in Japan or in Europe. Like in Germany, they have like the best trains, you know, in all of it. In America, we don't have this in, you wanna know why it's because of the car company's lobby against it. - Really? - Yeah, Ford and Christ, they lobby against these things because they want people, that's why everybody in the United States has a car. And we don't have like train systems in the United States, everybody has a car. - I didn't realize that the car companies did that, but that makes perfect sense that they would. - They lobby against it. - I love a train, I love a train journey. But after that train journey, it was strange. Like I was thinking, anyway. - That's so sad. - Yeah, it was, it was, but it was bizarre also. (upbeat music) - What was the other thing you wanted to talk about today? - The 13th Amendment. - 13th Amendment. - Shoot. - So you're gonna tell me you don't know what the 13th Amendment is? - Civics lesson. (both laughing) - I do not recall what it is. I should definitely know off the top of my head. - No, no you shouldn't, and I'll tell you why. - Mildly embarrassing. - No, no, no, no. Don't be, because let me tell you something. I didn't learn about it until like maybe two or three years ago. So the 13th Amendment is the, the abolition of slavery in the United States. - Got it. - That was the 13th Amendment. So I will read to you exactly what it says. - Okay. - It says the 13th Amendment to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude except as punishment for crime. The amendment was passed by Senate on the April 8th of 1864 by the House of Representatives and January 31st, 1865 and ratified by the required 27 of then the 36 states on December 6th, 1865 and proclaimed on December 18th. It was the first of three reconstruction amendments adopted following the American Civil War. So after the Civil War, as we all know, the Confederates, y'all lost, the Confederates lost. - I wasn't fighting, I wasn't there. - Sorry, you're North Carolina, South Carolina. - South Carolina. - It doesn't matter, the Carolina-- - It was the first to the first-- - The first shots, for something. - It doesn't matter. - All slavery, anyway. (laughing) - We had some issues and we still have issues. - Yeah, America has issues, not only, you know. So after the Confederate lost because the Confederate States wanted to actually break away from the United States and become its own country because they wanted to keep slavery. Think about that, they wanted to keep slavery. It was like, we will be our own country as long as we can own people. - Right, it's so stupid, like it's so stupid. What a dumb idea. (laughing) - Well, I mean, if you really think about it, I mean, cotton, they had the weather for cotton production-- - Oh, sure, rice. - They would have been stinkin' rich, so-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, smart business move, stupid ethical move. - Yes, ooh, that's nice, I like that. Smart business move, but ethically questionable. (laughing) - Dumb. - Dumb. So, they lost that war and they had to capitulate, if you will. I don't know if I was quickly. And the 13th Amendment was drafted and passed as we saw in 1865, blah, blah, blah. So then after that, what a lot of people didn't realize is that it says, in black and white, the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude except as crime for punishment. So, what they had done was-- - Punishment for a crime. - Punishment for a crime. So, they could not enslave people anymore, but-- - I didn't realize that that was part of it. - Yes, but what they could do is that they could arrest people. - Right, and then, right. - Need I say more. - Right. - So, they sort of arrested black people for the smallest of infractions, standing on a corner, looking at a woman, not working, and if you were incarcerated, and that's where we get our first police force because the police force was not to ensure the safety of the people, the police force, was to make sure that black people were arrested. That's what their job was, to arrest black people. Their job was not what we look at today. Traffic violations and detective work, no. Their job was to arrest black people. That was their job. And for the smallest of infractions, round them up. - Hmm. - I didn't-- - Were you walking? Yeah, seriously, it was the most mundane infractions of the law, and they would find a reason to arrest a black person. - Yeah, I didn't realize that that was the caveat for, you know, police. - Chain gangs? - Well, I mean, for, like, why it happened, like why it was, why we have police? I didn't realize that that was the reason. Yeah, that was the reason. That was the reason why we have the police, because before that-- - I'm sure there were, I'm sure there were other reasons. - Well, no, because before that-- - That would be, that would be a big reason. - But there was no such thing as the police. The police didn't exist until after the-- - Did they, how did they keep their society? I mean, I don't understand. I think police probably have always been, yeah, when did that start? Was that it, really? - Yeah. There was no police before that. There was no such thing as the police. - Well, I guess people were policing themselves with guns-- - They were policing themselves, and I mean, citizens arrest and all that good stuff, and, you know, it was, I don't wanna see-- - But I mean, like Sheriff, there were always Sheriff, so the town, we look at Westerns and stuff. - Yeah, but when was, when was Westerns? It was like late 1800s, early 1900s, although this Western-- - I know, but what I'm saying is like, people had police. - Yeah, but not for the same reason that they have the police now. They had a Sheriff to make sure that, you know, things stayed on the up and up, but they didn't have a police force. - Sounds so dumb to hurt. - Yeah, but the police force were literally ex-slave owners. - Well, that's not surprising. - Yeah, they were ex-slave owners. - Like, that is definitely-- - And just plain old racists, haters of black people, they wanted to arrest everyone. - You know, old racists. - They're playing old racists, it's a-- arrest all, you know, throw them all in the truck. They didn't care, because what they could not deal with was a free black man walking around, like a free white man. - Right, well, it was really-- - Okay, friend. - Hey, hey, friend. (laughing) Thanks for listening, everybody. - Yeah, thanks for listening. It was so nice to see you again. - I know, you too, always. - Yeah. - So all of our friends, if you are watching on YouTube, please like, share, and subscribe, and hit the notification bell, so that you know when we post a new video. 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