Defense Wins Championships
DWC Episode Eighteen // Week Eighteen of the NFL!! Sam Darnold Topic, Bengals Conspiracy, & more!!
What was up everybody, this is DWC episode 18, week 18. NFL last week of the season. Got a bunch of teams, they're sitting players, a bunch of teams that are still fighting for a seating. We still got one spot left in both of the AFC and NFC, and we cannot wait to see who takes that spot. We got some conspiracies going around with some of us and some of our friends on who they want in for the playoffs. And we'll get into that later, always you can always, as always, you can listen to us on Apple and Spotify podcasts and watch our beautiful faces on YouTube, Defense Winch Champions just podcasts for all of that shit. We will always pop up when we talk that in. So make sure to like, subscribe, rate five stars, all that jazz, this will be posted on the Twitter at DWC 2022 and on Instagram at Defense Winch's championships. So let's go ahead and get into some of our headlines we got, even though it is the last week, still got a lot of shit to talk about. We're gonna go ahead and get into just the overall of sitting and starting players that are already, teams that are already in the playoffs, do you sit them and start them for specific reasons? This one we'll talk about, Barkley, Saequan Barkley has a chance to break the rushing record. He means like 100 yards, 100 flat, I think. - Yeah, it's 100 flat. - Do you let Barkley get that 100? - I think, if I was the coach, I think it's really, like obviously it's a conversation that you have with him in my opinion. I think it's pretty much up to him if he wants to play because he knows they're already locked into a playoff spot. Obviously ownership makes the final decision on it probably, but I think any good owner, any good GM coach would go to him first and be like, listen, I'm gonna give you like a half. Either be like, listen, do you wanna play or not? Do you wanna try to break this record? And if you do, like I'm gonna give you a half if you're really close, play a little bit into the third quarter, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - I don't think it's, the Eagles will do right by his same point, I think. And if he doesn't play, I think it will be his decision. I don't think it will be the teams. - Yeah, I mean, we almost all get broken with AP and then he sat him. That was like, that sort of got AP was like a couple years ago. - Very close, yeah. - Stupid as hell. And he had no idea. I remember he said he had no idea. He thought he had it or whatever. And they sat his ass, but it'd be different, like this is tough because it'd be different if Seqwon was like 20 yards away. Seqwon's a hundred, like a hundred yards is hard. I mean, I know Seqwon's been fucking, I mean, he's been amazing in the fact of even getting close to breaking this record, but getting a hundred yards in of itself is hard as fuck. And he doesn't, he doesn't get those like, when he does like the ADR runs, those shit, that shit don't happen to like the fourth quarter, the third fourth quarter, when defense is tied, he just breaks one off for ADR. So how long do you play this brother? - Yeah. And also it's a little bit different with Seqwon because of his injury history. Like, I mean, he's not someone that's continuously stayed healthy throughout the years. He's been in the NFL. So I mean, it is a little bit more of a tricky situation, but I do think Sirion is just gonna have a conversation and be like, listen, we're already locked into a playoff spot. We need you for the playoffs. Do you wanna play and try to break this record? But we're only giving you like a half, like two quarters, we're gonna give it to you as much as we possibly can. Well, not as much as we can, like it has to be within the game flow, obviously. - Yeah, I was gonna say they just got a spam 'em. - Yeah, yeah, they can't spam 'em because they need 'em. But it can't be something that like, he's gonna get 30 touches, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - Because on a normal game, like in the playoffs, they're gonna need Barkley. Without Barkley, they're not gonna be the same team that they need. - Or they have that answer. - Especially with like, how the passing game has been. In the last, like, I know it's cleaned up a lot, but like in those weeks when there's like, a three, four week stress like Jalen Hurts was playing awful and they had to rely on Sequon. And if they don't have Sequon, like the drop off from no disrespect, but the drop off from Sequon to fucking Kenneth Gainwell, brother, they're gonna be first round fucking exits. - Yeah. - But it's gonna be tough. A hundred yards is a hundred yards. Like, do I think Sequon could get that in literally a series? Like, not a series, but you know, like three series? Maybe. But like, the Giants aren't idiots. They already fucked themselves out of the, like the top three. So, you know, you don't want, you know, as much as a team is bad, like the Giants are fucking horrendous, right? But like, they have pride. Like, you don't want to be that team that Sequon broke the record all. - Yeah. - Especially in division, like fuck no. But like, I knew after the, 'cause the Steelers held Sequon to like 60, seven yards. I knew after that, I was like, probably like, this is gonna be tough for him to get this rushing record. I think, I do think you play him. I'm the same way as you. If you ain't got it at half, like if you're not even like, if you got like 40 yards at half, brother, you sitting with me. - Yeah. - If you're, if you're maybe like 75 and you need 25 more, we'll throw you in, but like, you cannot risk, if it was up to me, bro, I'd like, I wouldn't play him. I mean, I know he wants to be in the record books, but I mean, you're gonna win OPOY. Like, you're gonna be in the record books. Everybody knows how great you are. I know Eric Dickerson is like pleading to not have a saquan break his record. It's really, you know. And he's like, I know some people are always like, records are meant to be broken, but you never had a record. I was like, bro, shut the fuck up. - Why heard, well, Saquan's pretty selfless. Like he, there was a game earlier in the year where he had a shit load of yards. What was that game where he had like 300 all purpose or something? - I know what you're talking about. - And he only needed a few more yards to like break some kind of record. And he said, no, let my other teammates like that have to play. So I don't know, Saquan will even play it, to be honest, 'cause I don't think he cares about records. - No. - I think he just cares about winning. - Yeah, I'm, I think he, I feel the same way. Like he, I could very well see him sitting 'cause I really, I really don't think he gives a fuck about the records. I mean, everybody knows who Saquan is. Saquan's name is gonna always be in the NFL. So I don't know why Eric Dickerson's bitching. - That record's gonna get broken at a fucking some point. - Has Dickerson actually been bitching about that? - Yeah. He's like, he's like, he really, he's like pleading for Saquan not to break his record. - What? I thought you were just saying that. - No. And he was like, he's been on like air like, oh, Saquan's had more games, you know, it's always gonna, 'cause in the more games, my record's gonna be broken, but you know, I don't want my record to be broken. I know everybody who breaks records are like, or gets the records broken. And like, Abraham records are meant to be broken, but like the people that are saying that, they ain't got like a record, like a record as great as mine, which his record is amazing. And you know, the amount of games that he did it in, crazy. But Saquan has like, I think like 40 less touches than him. When Eric Dickerson broke that record, yeah, it was in like 15 games, but brother, he was getting spammed. - Yeah. - So regardless of Saquan breaks or not, he didn't, you know, regardless of the games, he didn't less touches. So it doesn't even matter. But I want, 'cause every time he gets close, Eric Dickerson's ball head asks, keeps popping up on my fucking screen, talking about don't break the record. That's why I want this shit broken so we can shut the fuck up. Shout out Eric Dickerson though. Rec specs, I fuck with you heavy. You're just being annoying as shit. But, you know, I think Saquan, in all actuality, I would ask Saquan like, "Yo, like if I was a coach, I'd be like, brother, I want you to sit, you don't have to. If you want to get this record, but I'm restricting you to like a half, bro. But like, I would want him to sit. What this offense is with Saquan on the field and off the field is so drastically different. And the only way that, the only reason that like Kenneth Gaywell in the committee are getting significant yards is because of Saquan Barkley. Now, if Kenneth Gaywell was just in the game, the whole time, brother, I wouldn't be scared of the run at all. Saquan does run past, walking everything he's. You got to, you got to preserve him. Especially for this playoffs, like the NFC, brother, this shit's going to be rough, man. Yeah. I mean, they're pretty against the 11 win team. Yeah. 11, 12 wins. It's crazy how much this shit flopped. Like, I remember like last year, the NFC was just like dog shit. And now everybody's fucking locked in. All that took was Sam Deezi to show up for the veterans. Look at that. Look at me. Speaking of Sam Deezi, we're going to segue right into our next topic. Can the Vikings move off Sam Donald after the season? This, I think this topic is super interesting because it's like, it really gets into like money aspects. First round draft pick aspects. Like, what do you do when you drafted your future, said future, who was going to start over this guy who's had a great year after an injury. And it's like, what do you do? Now you're at a crossroads. No matter what decision they make, they're going to get shit for it. But I honestly believe, like, I honestly believe the Vikings, whatever they choose to do, they'll make the right decision because I think Kevin O'Connell will have a big say in whatever they do. But it's really, really hard. I'm leaning more towards they're going to try to keep Sam Donald. The problem with that is, it's really hard for a franchise to move up in the draft, take a QB that they thought would be their franchise and sit him. You know what I mean? It's hard for a team to do that. But I think, I honestly think like, they're in a pretty good situation to use that to their advantage because they can sit McCarthy for a while. Like, signed Sam Donald to like a three year deal. - Oh, so you want to keep both of them? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think, I mean, how, like McCarthy has no trade value in mind. - Yeah, talking about trading McCarthy. - I don't see any trade value from him. There's no tape on him. There's no film. He didn't even get through OTAs barely. You know what I mean? So I don't see any trade value there. I mean, yeah, he was a former top 10 pick, but like, does that move anybody in the NFL at this point? You know what I mean? - You know how desperate some of these teams are. - I know what you mean, but like the best thing to do in my opinion is to keep McCarthy because he's on a rookie deal. You're not paying him a shit load of money. So him being on the bench as a backup option is a pretty good deal, in my opinion. Because if you do think he's the franchise, then you sign this is the problem. This is where the crossroad comes in because if Donald-- - How much money is Donald gonna get? - That's the thing. There's gonna be a massive bidding war. You wanna talk about, you wanna talk about how much money people are gonna throw at Sam Donald. It's gonna be six, seven, eight teams looking at Donald and being like, oh, 50. Like 45, 50 million dollars for this guy. And the other biggest problem I see for the-- - Yeah, real quick. To for your point and to back up your point on, you know, I hate bringing this brother into this conversation. But to back up your point on him in Deshawn Watson and the same thing, anytime you think, any number you think that you have in your head on teams interested, double that shit. There are other teams interested that have quarterbacks on their squad. You don't think the Steelers are making a call? Like any team, like you don't think the Bucks, you know, I know Baker has been playing amazing, but like I was in, I was with you. I was like, yeah, like Kevin O'Connell is getting the maximum out of Sam Donald. But after these couple of games, I'm like, Sam Donald might have it. - The thing about Donald to me is like, he's always had the intangibles. You know what I mean? Like he's arm, huge arm. He can throw, he can move in the pocket. He can throw on the run. Like that's never been an issue for him. But now he's with a coach, obviously. I mean, he's probably gonna win coach of the year. - He should. - He's been great ever since he got to the Vikings. Probably one of the best offensive coaches in the league. - You're a guy, you love him. - Yeah, I like Kevin O'Connell. It's just like almost a match made in heaven. And he's kind of rehabilitated Sam Donald's career. But that's the thing, teams are gonna take that risk. They're gonna be like, oh, what is Sam Donald without Kevin O'Connell? Can they do it? Can he pair well with my coach? You know what I mean? But the thing, the biggest thing for me if the Vikings keep Donald is, I think the biggest cross road, not money. It's not JJ McCarthy necessarily. It's gonna be how long Sam Donald wants a contract for. And at this point, in his career, I think he's gonna want a four or five year deal. You know what I mean? And I think he's probably earned that depending on what they do in the playoffs and stuff. I mean, they've won 14 games. He's probably already earned it. And if they win the division, like we're talking crazy money here. But the biggest thing, in my opinion is, do the Vikings keep JJ and do they see him as the future? Because if Sam Donald wants a four or five year contract, there is zero point in keeping JJ McCarthy. You see what I'm saying? If the Vikings only wanna keep Donald for two more years, to me that will be a problem because Donald's not gonna think that's security for him. So that, if they can find a middle ground somewhere to keep Donald and JJ happy until JJ can start, then they're in the perfect world. But that's just not how the NFL works, you know what I mean? I think someone's gonna outbid or out year sign the Vikings. Like it may not be more than what the Vikings are offering, but I think it will be more secure in how many years they offer him. And that's the biggest money and all that. Yeah, I think Donald's gonna want a four or five year deal. If you're gonna do a four or five year deal and the Vikings are okay with that, you might as well get rid of McCarthy 'cause he is no longer the franchise option, right? So that's how I see it. If they truly believe JJ is the guy in the future, then they're gonna have to shorten that contract if they re-sign Donald and allow JJ to come in two or three years down the line. Yeah, it's tough because like, and it's the same thing that we said, you know, to not to call you all out, but to the Bengals fans on signing and doing contracts. We have no idea what's going on in Sam Donald's head. You could think that Sam Donald would want, you know, three year, let me take a pay cut. Let me take, you know, 40 mil three years because I'm giving the Vikings, you know, the payback because they took a chance on me and they maximized my talents. We don't know that. We don't know what Sam Donald's thinking. Sam Donald could be selfish as fuck, you know, behind all of the, and I don't think he is, but at the same point, like you have an agent, you know, your agent's gonna try to maximize as much money as you can get so they can get the Cape back in because you're their client. If there's a four year, $50 million sitting on the table and they are agent, that's malpractice if your agent doesn't tell you that. And there's gonna be teams out there that are gonna pay for that, especially. Like the Vikings are in like the most stressful situation because you don't know what you got with J.J. McCarthy in totality. I know they stole like a couple of practices, but that brother tore his shit off the bone immediately. So you don't know, you don't know about that. You don't know if this is it with Sam Donald. This is the high, which the high is 14 wins. Fuckin' congratulations, like holy shit. And this is probably being one of the worst QB drafts in a long time. So there's gonna be desperate teams that fell out, Raiders, Giants that fell out because there are dumbasses, one games. Fuckin' Saints, like you never know what teams are thinking and what they want. They can throw in a nasty ass bag. Brown's, they can throw a nasty ass bag at Sam Donald. And Sam Donald, I mean, I know he owes the Vikings organization so much 'cause of what Kevin O'Connell did to revitalize his career. But in totality, like Kevin O'Connell wasn't the wrong throw in the balls. Like Sam Donald did his thing to earn whatever contract he's gonna get. So it's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough. If I'm the Vikings, like it's hard 'cause I have so much bias. I really don't think JJ McCarthy is gonna be a great quarterback. So it feels up to me. I'd keep Sam, but like you're gonna have to sign him to like, can you think they can get away with a three year? Probably not at this point. My biggest thing, I do think years is what's gonna be the determining factor for Donald and where he goes because I do think at his age, he's been in the NFL for a while now. I mean, as long as Baker has. And I think he's gonna want a four year minimum contract. And if you commit to that, then JJ is not your guy. You're pretty much saying I'm moving off JJ McCarthy. I mean, you can keep him as a backup for four years, I guess, four or five years 'til his rookie contracts up. But that fifth year option, you just see it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think it comes down to the years. And I think a team like the Saints or the Browns or somebody will commit longterm to them where he'll feel more secure. But it really, like to me, it's up to the Vikings. Do they, it's hard to let 14 and two walk out the door. Yeah. It's hard to do that. And if I was in their position, I'd probably keep Sam Darnell and roll with them as long as I possibly can. 'Cause getting to 14 and two is not luck. That doesn't just happen. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I think they should keep him and move off of McCarthy and secure him for at least four to five years. It's crazy for me saying that 'cause I've been a Donald Hader my whole time. You've been a, you've been a Donald. And you know, for good reason, like what also what people don't take into account what also makes it so hard is 'cause we have no middle, right? We have 14 and two Sam Darnell and I'm seeing ghost Sam Darnell. There is no middle ground to find out who this person actually is. We have the high, the high, high in the low-ass low. I'm seeing ghost is crazy. So this shit is gonna be interesting. I can't wait to see what they do if it was up to me. But like if you trade JJ, what would you get? I don't even think, like that's the thing you're just gonna trade them. They won't trade him unless they're absolutely sure that they can retain Donald. And he is the future, you know what I mean? I think you keep McCarthy for a year at least to be a backup, you know what I mean? And again, something happens with Donald, but like right now I don't know what trade value he has. I guess, I guess would it make more sense for him having more trade value now fresh off being the number what, 10 or 11 pick than in like two years when he's never seen the field? You know what I mean? - Yeah. - Like I don't know what GM's look at, how would that like affect him? - Plus he got like a serious injury. It's not like, you know, he had like an MCL and they just haven't played him 'cause Sam Donald's been amazing. Like he was out for the season. So is he gonna be like, if you get rid of Sam, is he gonna be fresh for next season? How's that gonna look in like every, like if you get rid of Sam, it's not like you're getting rid of Sam for jailborough, right? You're getting rid of Sam for a rookie. This is essentially his first go around again. So unless you're like CJ Stroud, Jayden Daniels, like you're gonna have rookie issues. So if you have rookie issues and you're not playing up to par, people are just gonna whoop your ass 'cause you let go of Sam Donald. So like, I'm just glad I'm not in this position 'cause this shit is not, I don't even know what to hope to get. - Like I said, you have a one year sample size, you know what I mean? And Darnell hasn't had a great career in the NFL. We know he has the tools to be great, but no matter what the Vikings choose, people are gonna shit on it because there's still Sam Darnell people that don't believe in him at all. And others that are like, oh, JJ is the future, you know? So no matter what decision they make, they're gonna get shit for it. Let's just the NFL. - Yeah. - This could like set your shit back so much. That's what's tough. - It could be crazy, yeah. - And if you give Sam the bag like you're like your cat and what you have going for next year is gonna be restricted as opposed to having JJ on that rookie year. - Yep. - So they're gonna be cooked either way. If they can get, I know like four or five is ideal for Sam, but like if the Vikings can do so, if the Vikings can get a two, three, man. If they can get a two, there's no way they get a two, like somebody's gonna offer a four. Like, and Sam would literally like, you have to be the most selfless man. And I don't know Sam, nobody knows Sam besides Sam. So, and it might not be, you know, the agent might be like, yo bro, four years is four years. And then the team taking him could fuck up. He could just be ass. It could literally just be Kevin O'Connell in that scheme. - Yeah, I think Sam, like obviously I don't, I don't fucking know the guy, I don't know what he's thinking, but like, he's been on a different team the past like five years. Like, I really do believe he's gonna want someone who's gonna be like, oh yeah. - Four years is in four? - Four different teams or something. But like, someone that really will tell him, listen, we want you to be the QB for four years. Minimum, we want you to stay here. We want you to be the franchise. You know what I mean? Because he's been moving around everywhere. Like, in this long in the NFL, wouldn't you wanna just settle? - Yeah. - Like, that's just how I see it. I think the years will be the biggest factor. - Man. - 'Cause yeah, you can stay at the Vikings. You can stay at the Vikings and be good, you know what I mean? But some people are, some people truly are like, I'll get the fucking bag, be the guy somewhere else. You know what I mean? And if it goes bad, I still got the bag. - Hey, I don't hate on anybody getting to the bag. - Yeah, so I mean, who knows what type of guy he is? - You won't? - I would take Donald, probably. I think Stephanie could work well with Sam Donald. As long as we get rid of Dorsey and like, keeps the fans, he's offense, please. - Oh, sure, we want to get rid of Dorsey. - Dorsey, I mean, not to talk about the Browns for absolutely no reason, but the fucking. Every move we made was Deshawn Watson's decision is what I'm hearing. So OC changed Deshawn, scheme changed Deshawn. You know what I mean? Tried everything possible to get him back to where he was, interesting happening. So now, we need to go back to what has been working for us, was the fansky when we win 11 games. - I think Sam Donald can do great in that kind of offense. Do you know the shit that Baker got you guys winning the playoff game? - Yeah, I think Donald would be fine. What's the fansky? I mean, the fansky's no slouch as an offensive coach, so he's just never at a QB. - Yeah, I mean, if he could get Donald, that sure's up any kind of questions on who you would take at like third, you know what I mean? - I think the Browns trade down. In a few weeks, we could have like a draft. We could have a draft, fucking thing, but I think the Browns honestly trade down. - I don't know. - Sound pile picks. - I wouldn't. - I think I think these teams are. - I know how desperate teams are, but I really do believe that some of these teams like a lot of teams are gonna move down. Like, I honestly believe not as many QBs are going top 10 this year that people think. Like Ward, Milro, not top 10 picks. - Shadur might be the only QB taken in the. - Yeah, this draft, it's not like, not necessarily, this is like a ball-nour draft. There's gonna be a lot of guards and tackles and defensive players that go that people are like, "Who the fuck is that?" So it's not a sexy draft at all. So I could see a lot of teams. You know, everybody's probably just gonna be waiting for Shadur, Travis Hunter, and Ash and Gente. I know, Macmillan from Arizona, I know he's fucking great, but like, people don't really care about him. - Ash and Gente would be great on the Browns. I just don't want, I just don't wanna run him back in the first round, can't do it. - Not even Ash and? - No. - Ash and Gente's like that. I mean, even in the game, we just saw like, I don't know. Shadur, Ash and Gente. - We do need our chub replacement, but there's too many good defensive players, I think, for Barry not to go detackle corner in the first round. - Safety? - Yeah, fuck, we'll never get this free safety position, right? (laughing) Like, how do we go from John Johnson, who was a pro bowler, two-time pro bowler on the Rams, we sign them for a three-year deal, complete ass cheeks, and then Juan Thornhill, two-time Super Bowl champ, pro bowler, ass, when we sign them. - Yeah, we, we're gonna get a safety at all. We, that's why we're like, you know, we're just gonna get Mika, bro. - Yeah, smart. Apparently the Browns are gonna have to get like the upper Ash long for that position, or we're just never gonna find a free safety. Like literally the top three guys. - DB's are hard, man. It is like, a lot of people don't realize how much it is scheme. Like some DB's and some schemes are just dog shit. - I just don't get it 'cause Barry's been good with corners. I mean, DB's in general, like he, like Grant Delpitt's been good for us. He got Rodney McCloud in free agency, and then our corners have been solid, but he cannot figure out the free safety position. - It's just tough, man. - Nasty work. - Let's go ahead and do Brown. Anyway, so let's go ahead. That weather is not leaving New England. 'Cause I don't see McMillan being, like, I know, - Way to go. - You know, I can't see McMillan being the first pick. I don't see a tackle being the first pick either. - No Travis Hunter's gonna be a Brown, that's, that's. - At three? - Yeah. - Who are the Patriots drafting? - They need a fucking, who? Yeah, I don't know. I gotta look at that shit 'cause-- - Imagine him and, him and Gonzales lower have mercy. - I'm trying to see Ward and Hunter on the opposite side of each other. - The only time, no. The only time, the only reason that the Patriots don't draft Travis Hunter is literally racism. That is it, that is the only reason that he does not get drafted. - That's crazy. - Like, imagine how many Hunter jerseys in Patriots and Unis will get sold. It's gonna be all over Boston. - That's true. - Like, you gotta think of a revenue standpoint and he's a great athlete on your team. And you can put 'em wherever, fuck, they need, they need anything, you can put 'em wherever, bro. But you know, Steelers are gonna trade up. Number one, we're getting Travis Hunter. Now, we're probably gonna get some bullshit, bro, I can already tell. Anyways, so let's go ahead and talk about our next, we're gonna leave the best one for last minute. So let's go ahead and talk about-- - I do, you're doing that shit. - Rex Ryan and Ron are very interviewing for the Jets position. What are we doing? This is like, at some point, YouTube don't, I mean, we're not getting monetized, but YouTube don't ban me for saying this. At some point, you gotta consider death for this owner. At some point, you, like, what, at what point, like, you can't pull these kind of moves in New York. People will kill you, like this. Why, what are we doing? - Yeah, I mean, I got nothing on this one. Honestly, I put this here 'cause I could say a lot, but like, realistically, it's like, it's like beating a dead horse at this point. The Jets are an absolute fucking joke of a franchise. And that's coming from a browse fan 'cause we're an absolute fucking joke too. But you guys, every time I sort of got, every time the Browns do something, I feel like the Jets just do something dumber. Like on a weekly basis, I'm just like, how can these two franchises outdo each other consistently? You know what I mean? I just, like, Rex Ryan, like, how long has it been since he's coast-class? It's gotta be at least seven years, right? - Yeah. - And then fucking Rivera, we know, anyone who's followed this podcast knows how I feel about Rivera. 'Cause that dude needs to fucking retire and stay, he needs to go down to Florida, sit in a fucking old folks home. 'Cause I'm fucking over him. - I just don't know why out of every possible candidate, we're getting people that aren't coaching. - Yeah. - What, like, that should tell you something. The only time that ever it doesn't, like, 'cause Bill Belichick walked away. Like, Bill Belichick is a fucking, and even he didn't get an NFL coaching job. He's in college. Why are we getting people on podcast mics? Like, why are we interviewing those people? What are we doing? I mean, maybe, maybe, like, dead-ass, I dead-ass think, right? Not only is the owner a fucking moron. Man, I almost used a different word. Not only is the owner a fucking moron, right? I dead-ass think, as a coach. Like, if you're a young and upcoming coach, you know, coordinator, analyst, whatever, I dead-ass think it might be in, if there's ever an OC/DC group chat, the jets are blacklisted. I, like, you're literally selling, you like, you can't do, it's one of the jobs that you can take and you literally don't have control over anything. - Yeah. - Anything can happen at the drop of the hat. Hey, you know, I just got lunch. I'm coming back to my office. Oh, by the way, hey, we're trading for Devonta Adams. What the fuck? What? Oh, hey, by the way, Garrett Wilson was talking about maybe leaving. What? Now there's reports that they, you know, coming into next year, they might not have Aaron or Devonta, so what the fuck was the trade for? - Yeah, I mean, I know nothing will supplement what the Browns did with Deshawn, like easily probably the worst trade, but look at, like, I just want to say, look at the Rogers trade with the jets as well. Like Deshawn, like, the funny thing about Deshawn, he has a better record than Aaron Rogers on the jets, like, totality with the Browns. - Yeah. - That's fucking nasty. That's absolutely fucking nasty. - Yeah, I mean, both of them are gonna be up there. And I'm trying really hard, right, not to let my Aaron Rogers buy a show. - Fuck. - 'Cause that one might be worse, man. (laughing) Like, they have only been, like, it's only been bad. It's only been bad. It has never, they were only winning on Thursdays, like, (laughing) - That's actually stupid. - Rogers is cooked. We threw in Tyrod Taylor against the Bills and he immediately scored. We traded for Devonta for no reason, 'cause he might not even be on the team. Garrett Wilson might one out. We gave, Hassan Riddick didn't play for eight weeks. - Yeah, did he play at all? Like, I sorta got-- - He played at the end, but, like, what the fuck? The line is dog shit. Like, there's, Aaron Rogers can't even make an out-route throw. - Did you see that throw in the pass weekend with the tight end? - Throw his feet and then yell at the tight end. I was like, oh, he shot, like, he is done. (laughing) - Like, it's, it's sad, bro, like, and the Desaun Watson shit's bad, too. But damn-- - They're both really bad. - Like, man, like, that shit is like, and what's funny about it is, you know, when you pass, you're going to be looking up at us. But the one thing that I liked about what Desaun is doing is he's shutting the fuck up. He doesn't get on these fucking shows. I mean, regardless, he probably doesn't have a platform to begin with, but he doesn't get on these fucking shows. I mean, regardless, he probably doesn't have a platform to begin with, but he doesn't get on these fucking shows. Like, he's not tweeting out, like, he's just tweeting, like, or making posts, like, well, like, everything's normal, which is not, like, brother, like, you're going to-- - Yeah. - People want you dead. But like, you know, oh, just back to work, blah, blah, blah. But like, Rogers is getting on the airwaves and just yappin' on top of playing bad. And this isn't, like, bad. This is like, this is like, bad, bad. Like, he's playing so ass. Like, the throat, like, oh my God, the throws that this brother is trying to make, it's just not there. And he keeps doing it. And then when they don't hit, he yells at the other team. Like, who wants to be on that team? Who wants to play for that? - Yeah, it's rough 'cause the one thing that Rogers brought with him to the Jets was hope. You know what I mean? - Yeah. - Like, whether, like, for the Browns, I will say, like, getting to Sean, it was always like a very rocky, like, it was split between the fan base. Like, the fan base never, it was never all hope. But when Rogers went to the Jets, it was like, immediate Super Bowl contenders. Oh, they're kind of finally win the fucking AFC East. You know what I mean? And then they were just the worst team. Like-- - I mean, the brother ran out with the American flag. It looked like this shit was written in the stars. - Yeah, like, just all bad from the beginning. They're rosters, like, talented too. So like, it makes it even worse. You're wasting all these guys for nothing. And if, if it's true, if Garrett Wilson leads, we have lost every single plot. At all, like, I just don't know where to begin, bro. It is so bad. It is so bad over there. And I don't see a way for them to get out. At least, it's crazy how you guys can get out of this situation. And, like, if you're gonna be an ass owner, at least pay money, right? - Mm-hmm, yep. - That's what your owner's doing. But this man is ass, not paying, and-- - You can't, you can't be ass and broke. - Yeah, ass, broke, taking advice from Madden. We're listening about Chad Ocho's single ratings on who is good or not. Fuck out my face. Like, I would stop being a fan. That is like, I literally would not watch the Jets if I was a Jets fan. - That's really, yeah, that's really tough. Like, I don't know, man. I don't see how interviewing Rex Ryan or Ron Rivera helps this situation. I think this works. - Yeah, I completely forgot about them too. Fuckin' those guys. (laughing) Like, this doesn't fix the situation either. If you hire, please, but it'll make it funny. Please hire Ron Rivera and keep Aaron Rodgers. You wanna know what that locker room's gonna look like? Lord have mercy. 'Cause Ron Rivera's a dogshit coach, right? But he don't take BS. And that's exactly what Aaron Rodgers is. So why the fuck would you hire him? - Yeah, I don't think-- - Don't think Ryan is a fat fuck. Like, why the fuck would you hire me? I can say that a fact. Why the fuck would you hire me? He's a dumbass too. - I don't think either coach meshes with Rodgers. So kind of, let's see who they keep interviewing because I think it might be a little bit telling-- - But I promise you, bro, they would have to, I'm telling you though, that job is blacklisted. I don't think anybody's considering that shit. - Well, I know for a fact, Ben Johnson's not. - Yeah, like, why would you? You don't have control. Like, that's what Ben Johnson wants. He wants control and he's not gonna have that. Like, who wants to play for that owner? Or who wants to coach for that owner? Like, the decisions aren't up to you at the end of the day. You can bring in whoever. But if Woody Johnson, you know, is on his period and he doesn't like that some dude gave him fucking turkey instead of ham, he's gonna fire his ass. - Well, to me, like, for them to get a young guy, it would be kind of like how the Panthers did it last year because David Kanalas was not a top candidate. - No. - In the coaching cycle. - Yeah. - But he was young and up and coming. He did good things with the Buccaneers, but he was never like Ben Johnson. - No. - So I think for the Jets to get someone like that, it will have to be like an almost breakout. - You're gonna have to like throw the bag at, like, Jesse Minter. - Yeah, it would have to be someone like super young. They haven't broken out yet, but they've been solid. That's not a huge name. - You're gonna have to take a flyer on him. - Yeah, because Kanalas, like, no one wanted to go to the Panthers. Ben Johnson literally declined going to the Panthers. You know what I mean? Like, so it'll have to be, they're gonna have to hit on someone and get kind of lucky, I think. If they're gonna go the young route, if not, you're gonna rehash a coach and fire him two years later. So. - Yeah. You're gonna have to like, like you said, get a young guy, get someone to that college. Like, regardless, I think the hired position is gonna be a what the fuck. It's either gonna be an old dude that can't get off the fucking couch, or it's gonna be a young dude unproven. There's not gonna be like a good candidate coming to the job. I mean, Rex Ryan gets on the airs and talks about fucking dogs. Like, why are we interviewing this dude? I just want New York team to be great, man. But what the fuck are we doing? - Familiarity with Rex Ryan. It's just like, oh my God. It's just infuriating how I'm like, I could do a better job than this, bro. Just give me a couple of mil. I got y'all. I will take out wooden jogs. It's just like, it's so unfortunate. And you know, you're living with this now. It's so unfortunate, realizing that it's really not up to y'all on how you run your ship. It's really up to the head honcho, which that's how it usually is in companies. Like, don't get me wrong. Usually the head honcho makes all the big decisions, but like, you shouldn't do it in this fucking, in this business. - Yeah, the best owners are the ones that stay the fuck out of the way, realistically. - Yeah, the best owners are the ones. I don't even know who the fuck they are. Unless I see their dumbass on the fucking screen. I didn't know who the fuck, unless you're like a big name. I didn't even know what fucking Robert Kraft looked like. And they are winning fucking Super Bowls. So, you know, fuck you, bro. The higher Mr. Bezos. - Yeah. - Well, we got the last headline for the best. Some conspiracy's going around. Little, you know, group chats, little whistles. I know my co-host is tired of earing it. Do the NFO, does the NFL want the bangles in the playoffs? We've already seen it on their Twitter. They made, like, their header was Joe Burrow. It's looking, you know, there's a path for this to happen. It would make box office, you know, seeing the bangles playing the bills. Does the NFL, is, you know, behind the scenes, puppet show, is the NFL trying to get the bangles in the playoffs? - I do believe that the NFL wants the bangles in the playoffs, but I also believe that they have zero control over if that happens or not. But they're going to-- - Do you think they will be in the playoffs? - No, I don't think the bangles make the playoffs. The bangles are the same team every fucking year. And the one time, well, I actually have done it twice. They always start off so slow. Number one, they dig themselves in holes. And what did I say three years ago when, if the bangles continue to dig themselves in holes, start out three and four, three and five, whatever the fuck it is, whenever the AFC North stays healthy and is good, they're not going to be able to climb out of that hole. And that's exactly what's happened last year and so far this year. You know what I mean? Like, I just don't like, I do think the NFL wants to win. Obviously, Joe Burrow in the playoffs is good. It's good TV. Like Joe Burrow is one of the best QBs, him playing Josh Allen at home. I'm sure there would be a fucking match up there. - Yeah. - Of top five QBs, you know what I mean? But, I mean, the bangles just did it to themselves. And I don't think the NFL's as rigged as people fucking think it is. Like I truly don't. Too much dumb shit happens consistently in the NFL for it to be rigged. You see what I'm saying? - Yeah. - Like, I just don't believe it. Like, you can say refs are fucking, yeah, they're paid by the NFL, but, there is favoritism a little bit, in my opinion, to sway the best QBs to continue to be good. You know what I mean? But I don't think it's anything that's like super detrimental, like in the playoffs or to win games most of the time, majority of the time. Like, yes, there's bad calls everywhere. It happens, like they're humans. And until we get rid of refs completely and do like AI bullshit, there's probably gonna be issues, you know what I mean? - Yeah. - So, I mean, I do think the NFL won some of the playoffs. Like, of course, it'd be fucking, the first round of the playoffs would be insane. Because realistically the Broncos, I don't think they beat the Bills. - No, yeah. - It might not even be close. Like, Bengals against the Bills fucking shoot out against the two and seven, or the two and seven seed, yeah. Like, it'd be fucking like each playoff game. Like, the first round of the playoffs, usually there's a few blowouts, but typically it's pretty solid. I mean, that'd be really good for us. - I mean, it'd be, it'd be television. You got to burrow in Josh Allen. If, you know, if it ended in the same, it'd be burrow Josh Allen, Herbert versus Lamar, or you get a fucking Steelers and Ravens playoff game. And when's the last time that shit happened? - Yep. - And then, you know, whoever plays the dumbass Texans. That shit would be asked, but other than the four seed. - Who's the five seed right now? - It's the Steelers. But if we, if we lose, we go down and we'll be the six seed and the Chargers go up if they win. - Okay. So yeah, I'll probably be the Chargers Texans. - Yeah, which, you know, I don't give a fuck about that, but like, still, you know, two QBs going after it. But like, I truly believe, 'cause there's even rumors that the Chiefs might start the third string QB. - Cheers. - Chris, and I should know his name 'cause we drafted him, but some do name Chris. But if I'm the Chiefs, right? And usually you wouldn't want to see your division rival in the playoffs, but I think they can, I think they comfortably believe they can beat the Broncos. And I don't think they're going to see the Broncos. - Yeah. - 'Cause they're not going to beat the Bills. But like, would you rather, if you're the Chiefs, right? Would you rather have the Bengals in to potentially not, like, who do you think is the biggest competition? Like, would you rather have the Bengals come in and potentially knock out the Bills so you don't have to worry about that? Or does it not matter to you? - I think at that point, it probably doesn't matter because I think the Bills or the Bengals can probably beat the Chiefs. You know what I mean? Who's a bigger threat? Probably the Bills overall team, I would say. And you know how, like, I don't think the Chiefs are looking at it that way. I think the Chiefs want rest, which they got. They can sit Pat and Kelsey and all their best, but Chris Jones for literally three weeks, you know what I mean? No one else is going to have that advantage because the Vikings and Lions have to play for the one seed, you know what I mean? So I just think, obviously, like, the Chiefs are thinking, oh, we just want rest, you know? And the thing I'll say about like this game for the Broncos is like, they're going to still have to try because no matter if Pat's playing or not, these are still NFL guys you're playing against. Yeah, and there's incentives on the line in the NFL. So like when people are like, oh, like if someone sends me something where it's like, oh, the Chiefs may play some of their starters, that's only because of incentives. And those players, if they get it, they're coming right back out of the game immediately. You know what I mean? It's never like, oh, we're trying to get this other team in the playoffs or there's some conspiracy theory. Like I think people always, like the casual fans always forget that there's incentives throughout the year that players can make an extra 200,000, 300,000. And like that shit's important to the players. Like they're there to make money, it's a job, you know? Yeah. So I think that plays a big factor in why people think shit is rigged as well. But in reality, it's just players trying to get fucking paid, you know? I mean, it's going to definitely be, you know, if I'm the Chiefs, I wouldn't care, you know, the Broncos win, they play the Bills. And then if everything sorts out how it sorts out, say the Ravens and the Chargers play, we obviously, we think the Ravens will win and the Steelers and Texans play. Regardless of who wins that, that's who you play. So you either play the Texans or you play the Steelers. And we already saw what the Chiefs did to the Steelers. And I think the Texans are an easy dub too. So, you know, it doesn't really matter. I know it'd be great, like great for television, but it's really hard for me to think that the Broncos would lose, it'd be hilarious, right? 'Cause I'm a Sean Payton hitter, so it'd be funny as fuck. But I really don't think the Broncos will lose that game. No, teams don't take, like it's not a real fucking thing. Did everyone watch the Giants on Sunday? And the Raiders, I'm fucking telling you teams don't take, no one likes to fucking lose. Coaches are fighting for their fucking lives every fucking moment. Like, it's not a real thing. Like, I honestly believe tanking is not a real thing. Now, you can maybe point out the Browns and start a DTR. Like, that's the only argument you have to take. No, that's tanking, that's the thing, no other tanking. Yeah, but I mean, it's realistically like, like for them, I'll say that we're just checking all bases. You know what I mean? - I think they are checked that brother's ass. - Well, and we might not even start in this week. Like, Stafanski said, we're probably gonna start Bailey Zappi. So, I mean, that's the-- - Y'all have that brother in Floyd? - Yeah, I know. That's where the Browns are at though. Like, they're just trying to figure out, okay, who are we gonna keep for next year? Like, DTR's probably not even gonna be on the team next year. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all brother's tanking. - It's okay, bro, y'all are tanking. Not everybody does it, but you gotta have a slimy ass owner. Check, y'all brother's a tanking, y'all are tanking. It's, hey, I don't blame you, hey, I am pro tank. When you see a nice spot, like, when is the last time, like, think about it, the last time y'all had a first round pick, and now it's a top three first round pick? - I will say, it was the first time this goes against everything I just said about tanking, 'cause I truly don't really believe in tanking, but last Sunday, watching the game, I don't know why I was watching it, but Stofansky on the sideline, I have never seen him so chill, just uninterested. Like, he looked like he didn't give a fuck. He was like, I'm gonna play all these young players, and we're just gonna talk 'em through the game. You know what I mean? - It's not up to him. - No, but I truly think he is safe and very safe. That's why he was just like the last three or four games, and he's just been like, like, once Winston got benched, he was just like, whatever. Like, I'll game plan for it. We'll try to get these young players playing. We ain't winning shit, like. - It's like, that brother might need an Oscar, 'cause like, if you go up, like, when they ask him, is Watson playing next year, and he has to say like, oh, we're leaving all options open, like, how do you not make the speed face that fucking like? - Yeah. - Like, that brother's done. Like, that has to be hard. You're like, you know, as soon as he gets there, and you see him throwing, you're like, oh, man, this brother's cooked, like, we're so, we're so done. But yeah, I know you said you don't believe in tanking. Y'all are tanking, so that's funny. You can't tell me you're not after like, I get, okay, you play D-T-R once, I get that. He's ass. Twice, maybe you just wanna see these double ass. - Three times? - Y'all are tanking. - That's much y'all. - I don't, I don't hate, oh, we know. I don't hate, I am pro tanking, so I'm with this. But yeah, I'm the same way of you. I don't think, I think it'd be better, like, NFL would want this. They want the Bengals in because it's Joe Barrow, top five quarterback against top five quarterbacks. Like, Joe Barrow's only gonna be playing top five quarterbacks for, you know, the rest, the rest on. He'd be playing top five quarterbacks until he loses. So yes, that is huge, huge money for the NFL. They would pray to have that, right? But it's not up to them. And it wasn't up to them when the fucking Bengals lost to the Patriots. You know, you gotta start looking at those little gains. If the Ravens lose to the Browns for some reason, you gotta, we can't go bruh. The Ravens lose in the Browns, we gotta go bruh. Why the Ravens lose to the fucking Raiders? You know, we gotta look at those kind of gains. So the Bengals did it to themselves. I have no love loss, obviously, I hate them. I have no love loss for the fucking Bengals. You lost to the Patriots. You lost the teams you shouldn't lose to. My team put up 40 points. When the fuck do we do that? Like, that's not what you, that's what happens. - It allowed us to get 420, absolutely. - You lose the dog shit, you're dog shit. I don't know what else to tell you, man. So y'all are gonna be out of the playoffs. Y'all in the best thing about it, worst thing about it for them. They're out of the playoffs. They did all of this to try to get in the playoffs, out of the playoffs. And now, guess what, bitch? You ain't picking from top five no more, bitch. You picking from 16. Let's see you getting your bag. Let's see what you come out with. 'Cause it's gonna be dog shit. Mary Smith has been nice, though. Don't get me wrong, he's been nice. But other than that, man, let me see you try to pick a DB. I can't wait to see what the fuck you come up with. So yeah, fuck the Bengals, man. Let's go ahead and get into our one takeaway. My one takeaway I didn't wanna do is shout out to Deuce. It's gonna be a quick one. Shout out to Deuce. My one takeaway is this Ravens defense has gone back to being great. And this is what I just wanna say for Ravens defense and what the Steelers defense needs to do. Get rid of the cancer on the team! As soon as the Ravens got rid of Marcus, Marcus Williams, as soon as they got rid of him, right? And put Kyle Hamilton back into free. They've been fucking amazing. They're in like top tens of like everything. All it takes is literally, once you get the dog shit die off the team, I promise you, like it's gonna be great. Steelers, kill, sand, putt, sand. Oh, kill, cut, kill him. He needs to be off the team. The Ravens defense has been fucking phenomenal. It's been a well-oiled machine back in itself. I know like, and they play, you know, you have to play some dog shit team. They play some good teams too. I mean, they fucking dismantled the Steelers. We couldn't do anything against the Ravens defense. The defense has been back, Kyle Hamilton has been fucking balling. And all it takes is that one little move and now everything's fucking working again. It's crazy how that shit works. So I wanna shout out the Ravens defense. They have been on their P's and Q's the last like five weeks. They've been in one of the top units. Perfect timing for them too. They've been straight into the playoffs. Oh, I'm gonna do a goofy ass takeaway because... Oh, here we go. No, it's nothing like crazy. And you can probably notice it just like me, but my key takeaway is that man, Travis Kelsey, does not take the off season seriously. Oh, hell. Because what the fuck was the last two games he played? And then going back to last year in the playoffs, 10 catches a goddamn playoff game. Like this man ever since he started dating Taylor Swift, I swear to God, he does nothing in the off season besides go to parties and drink. Dude, I need to re-listen to like our old ones. For a lot of these takes, we've been, we were talking about this shit like week three. We're talking about how like players or teams are. Like I remember us talking about Travis Kelsey earlier. Like earlier in the season, like what the fuck was he doing in the off season? Absolutely nothing. Dog shit. I swear to God though, like it takes him like, I know he's getting older in age, but he's not super old, but I mean like it takes him 12 to 14 games to ramp up now. I swear to God, it's like the weirdest shit I've ever seen. Like he truly doesn't lock the fuck in until it's time to either clinch the one seed or play in the playoffs. Like that's it. He does not care about the regular season at all. Hey, bro, you know how I feel about that shit? They got multiple players that do that shit. And to add on, I think Marquis Brown actually opens up that offense a lot. And I think once he got back, they look a lot better. Yeah. But it's like, it's hard because with Roshina out there, you're kind of having to save your worthy, because usually that means they have a worthy job, but you kind of have Xavier, where they doing Rishi Rice's job right now. So the office is, as you said, closed, but now with Marquis being able to take the top off, not necessarily saying he's going to have 300 yards, but just that ferret being there opens a lot for the short intermediate game where Pat fucking excels at. Yeah. Yeah, I think the chiefs are locked in right now. They had the last two, three weeks, they've been like, it's been some of their better games on the season, I would say. They're starting to put it all together. So here we go, playoff chiefs, who's going to beat them, because there's about four or five teams that have played better than them all year. Can they beat the chiefs of the playoffs? One game sample size. Yeah, it's crazy. All these teams are doing fucking behind the backs and ladder rolls and all this shit in the Chiefs are fucking 15 and one. Yep. No, it is actually kind of crazy, because like if you've watched the NFL this year, like you would think, oh, the Lions, Vikings, Raven's bills, like all of them have done crazy shit. These high powered offenses all have more losses than the Chiefs, who literally can't throw the ball down field, don't have any fucking receivers 'cause Rice got hurt. Marquis Brown was hurt all year. Pacheco, fractured his ankle. What's up? 15. Pacheco, fractured his ankle, Travis Kelsey's fat. They had to move Joe too, and he had a left tackle. The right tackle's dog shit. Patrick Mahomes is on his yearly high ankle sprain. Yeah, it really is a yearly thing now. (laughing) It makes for the lure to be better. Dude, this brother takes the worst tackle ever in existence. I'm like, oh, this is the year. Not hoping for him to get injured, but I'm like, this is the year. Yeah. And a high ankle sprain, he's playing next week. And he runs, it's not like he's a statue and he fucking still runs. Yeah. Does that little wincing face, brother? I love and hate that man so much, man. 'Cause I know we're watching history, but at the same time, kill 'em, fuck. Yeah. But, I mean, my team's never gonna get, and be worse if I was a postman, my team's never gonna be able to sniff, what'd they say, "sniff that brother's jock strap?" I can't even stop. (laughing) Let's go ahead and get into our sets and picks of the week. Y'all, I'm gonna be real with you. There's a high possibility that we go, oh, in three this week. (laughing) We don't know who the fuck's playing. This is what happens when you do this shit on Tuesday and Wednesdays, but we don't get the opportunity to see who the fuck is playing. Yeah. And who wants to play? Not only who's playing, but who wants to play. So, take our shit with a grain of salt, man. Take our shit with a grain of salt. So, we're gonna go ahead and get into the locks of the week. We have the Packers. That's how you know we're smoking crack. Packers minus nine and a half. And Bills minus two and a half. I know, y'all. I know. I'm just praying that Josh Allen's out there for, you know, a half. (laughing) And he gets a two touchdown, so I win my bet. And then they put Mitchu Treviscuit in. I'm hoping that we get to see Bazooka Joe out there for the Patriots. Bazooka Joe is crazy. (laughing) 50,000 picks. Shout out Joe Milton, man. And yeah, the Packers, the Packers actually do need to win. And I think like the Packers are kind of like in the, the lesser talk of like, oh, we're talking about the Vikings, the Eagles, the fucking Lions. Don't forget about the fucking Packers, bro. They could put 50 on you at any time. Yeah, I think my thought process for the Packers pick is more while they do need to play for, they do have something to play for. And the fact that they can move up and see by one and play the Rams instead of playing the Eagles. Yeah. But I mean, the Packers have been killing the bad teams all year. Like they're always bad team. Yeah. Packers losses are to the twice to the Vikings, twice to the Lions. You know what I mean? So it's like everyone's gonna write them off. But like to them, to my point in picking them is like, they really have beat all the bad teams by like 10 plus points, I feel like all year. So I'm confident with them having something to play for. Their defense is pretty good. Like I think they'll be fine in covering the spread against the Bears. Yeah. And the Bears are dog shit. Don't forget that. The Bears are dog shit. Even though the last time they played them, they won 20 to 19. Go man. Yeah. That's just the Jordan love experience. I know you love that man so much, but sometimes that man beat. Oh shit. But I do think they'll be locked in. I think like, like I said, they wanna make some noise. They wanna, you know, remind people like, "Yo, we're not the team to fuck with." And I do think they can hang that shit, pause on the Bears. Now you see, he got it at nine right now, right? It's already up to 10. It just got up to 10. God damn it went up a whole point. Went up a whole fucking point, bro. Jesus. That's how, that's how you know we are locked in. Bill's gonna move though, 'cause it's probably gonna be a fucking true biscuit. And our dog of the week, I was gonna say dog of the year, we have not had a dog of the year, them motherfuckers be seven. Dog of the week. San Francisco 49ers, y'all. I know, Rockburn, you might not be playing. I don't think he is playing. Brother, we are putting all of our chips on Joshua Dobbs. And I truly think we could win this because the Cardinals are that bad. The Cardinals skid after like beating the Chargers, awesome dumb shit, has been generational. There are talks about Kyle or Mary. If he's a good quarterback or not, they need a new OC, 100%. And now we're calling Marvin Harrison a bus for having 800 yards. It is hilarious. So I think the 49ers are just grownups. And I think they're gonna, I think it's gonna be a dog shit game. What we do think they're gonna get the win. So those are our locks and dog of the week. And we're gonna go ahead and get in the picks and get out of here. So we have for the Saturday night games, we got. - Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just saw an update. The Eagles are resting, Saequan. - Resting, Saequan, boom. The Eagles are resting, Saequan, breaking news. Eagles are resting, Saequan, Barkley. No rushing record. Eric Dinkerson, you can now. - You lucked out. - You lucked out. You can now breathe a sigh of relief, brother. Your record is still available. So I better not see your dumb bald ass with them glasses on my TV screen. You won, brother, you won. Congratulations. Fuckin' bum. Anyways, let's go ahead and get into the picks. The Browns at the Ravens. A whole whopping minus 17 and a half for the Baltimore Ravens. - Disrespectful. (laughing) - Y'all, this is like basketball. - Yeah, that's bad, that's bad. Look at you, man. From let's get delusional to, we might be taking. - They're fuckin'. (laughing) - Can you be playing the Jets are worse? - Yeah, QB play really does dictate like 10 of your wins a year. It's crazy. - Do you think the Overweight, 41 and a half, do you really, you think the Ravens might put like 50 on your dead ass? Or do you think they're gonna put like 28 in and chill? - Yeah, I could see it being like they go up 21 to three or something and then like their backups come in 'cause our defense still hasn't been bad on the year, you know? - Yeah. - So I think it probably goes under just because they'll sit their players in the second half. And we're not scoring. Like I doubt we did. (laughing) - That's what this is me off about y'all. Like y'all literally just don't quit on the- - So you know what the most annoying part is about like DTR is the fact that in the last two games, shit, three games, like the Bengals game, we lost what 21 to 14 or something. And we turned the ball over in the red zone three times. The Dolphins, how many times were we in scoring position? Again, with DTR and DTR turns it over and gets a grounding call, you know what I mean? We can drive the field with DTR, but DTR, once he gets, once that field shortens, I swear to God, something goes wrong in his brain. (laughing) - He just placed too wild. - Yeah. - Like that one fucking ball throw in Joku, what the fuck was that? The turn, he like turned like 50 times when he didn't need to. - Yeah, I know. - That brother's trolling, he's funny as fuck, man. The Bengals at the Steelers, Reed has the Bengals and I have the Steelers, fucking bitch. For the Panthers at the Falcons, we both have the Falcons. For the commanders at the Cowboys, we both have the commanders. For the Bears at the Packers, you already know, we both got the Packers. Texans at the Titans, both of the Titans. Jags at the Colts, we both have the Colts. For the Bills at the Patriots, we both picked the Bills. For the Giants at the Eagles, we both picked the Eagles, although now that everybody's resting. - Yeah. - I don't know. Through the Saints at the Buccaneers, both picked the Buccaneers. For the Chiefs at the Broncos, we both picked the Broncos. It's one of the few times that Reed will go against the Chiefs. And that's 'cause everybody's sitting. For the Chargers at the Raiders, we both picked the Chargers, Seahawks at the Rams, they'll pick the Seahawks. Dolphins at the Jets, they'll pick the Dolphins. 49ers at the Cardinals, you already know, both got the 49ers. And for the Vikings at the Lions, Lions fans, I know, I know, I know, we both picked the Vikings. I know I'm the Lions correspondent, but just after watching you guys up against the 49ers, Rock Party, through those games, you just throwing some, what the fuck were you throwing balls? - I really think that if they were locked, then they could have beat you up. That's how concerned I am about this defense. - Yeah, it's just the defense. It's hard to pick the Lions against like the upper echelon with that defense. - Yeah, if they can get, if the team can get like two stops on them, bro, they might be game over. - Yeah, I know. And that's how it was, who'd they lose to last? The Lions lost to somebody a few weeks ago. - The Lions? - Wasn't it the Bills? Didn't they play the Bills? - Yeah, they play the Bills. - And that's when they lost last, right? - They lost. I mean, even with Purdy throwing that many picks, they only beat them by six. Like that's how, yeah, they lost to the Bills 48 to 42. - Yeah, that was the game where like they literally got stopped once or twice in the Bills, did whatever they wanted. - Yeah. - It's hard to, it's hard to, - It's hard to almost have 500, have five TDs. And it's just, you get that one stop against an offense that's just gonna keep going. It's gonna be rough, man. So take the Vikings, taking the Vikings as the number one, which I think the Vikings, like no matter, I love the Lions, I love everything the Lions are doing. Detroit is, you know, back on the map doing everything. The Vikings from what the projected was from what they have, I think they are the true deserving number one team. Shout out to Vikings, man. Also the yearly record, I'm up seven. With, you know, he didn't pick seven different for me. So I won the regular season. We're gonna continue in the playoffs, but regular season champ, back to me, it's 2-1 now. We've done three seasons, it's 2-1, you know. I don't let my nuts hang, man. I had to go back, go back to it. And we started off terribly now and now, you know, we've been consistently up in the team, but we started off dog shit. - I think this year we had better records than last year because last year we were close to 100 losses. - Yeah. - I think we do pretty well, yeah. - Considering where we started, we were like, oh my God, like week two, all them upsets, we're like, fuck. - Yeah, the first four weeks were rough 'cause we didn't really know what the team is wearing yet. - Yeah, now we're locked in, man. Thanks everybody, listening. This will be posted out on YouTube. Apple and Spotify podcasts today. Literally going to post these as soon as we're finished. This will be dropped on Twitter and Instagram at DWC 2022 and at defense win championships. Make sure you guys like, subscribe, comment, rate us five stars, all that jazz, like retweet, all that stuff. We really appreciate you guys. 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