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Nedarim Iyun 9: R' Daniel Glatstein
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We have a very interesting and timely topic tonight Tonight's our Scottish tables and as we mentioned in an earlier shirt today Many associated with religious tables with ramere ballon s then it's high says to light a Narrowly you'll initialist ramere ballon s it's brought in the kafakayim and some even suggest that it's his yard site But the topic I want to talk about is the topic of making nidaram the the mission says on that test if somebody said That he wants to make a nether like a Russia That's effective But if somebody says he wants to make a nether like a kasha it's ineffective because Rishah and make nidaram Kishayram do not make nidaram Diggmar says there might be a difference between the daram and the davas that maybe kishayram do make nidaram Vice but they do not make nidaram everyone agrees kishayram do not make nidaram The gamara says certainly It's better to make a nether and to pay it then Then to make an other and not pay it There's even an opinion that it's better not to make a nether at all than to make an other and pay it so the question is It is pretty widespread that people pledge money to sedaka is there any allowance for that? What is that based on how can such a thing be done? So in other words? There's an appeal you say yeah, I'll give $10,000. I'll pay it up over the course of the year Are you allowed to do that? There's an appeal in the shul you want to call out your donation are you allowed to do that? so all of these things it's pretty commonplace but Is that allowed is there any basis to be able to do that? So we're gonna start with a tai sis in Misakta hulan if I'm not mistaken on da base on my base and the writva in Nidaram and dafyur says basically the same thing here we go Okay Tai sis in hulan da base on a base brings the end of this tai sis in timer you'll ask Because the Gomara says Kishayram don't make Nidaram tai sis says but what do you mean Yakovino made a nether by either Yakov nether lemur Yakov made a nether Well Cib it says in yoyna is a share nadarti asha leema I've been thinking about this topic a lot lately and if you pay attention to hulan it basically says about 10 times Nidarai la shem asha lei neg donna lakhal amai now, by the way, what kind of the dorm do you think that amak was referring to I? Think he was referring to carbon ice when he says bakhats where his base Hashem the sahihihi ushalayam I'm assuming it's some kind of Carbon how many times does double milkshay just in in? Ma shiv ma shiv la shem cold time We'll close the shoes that's over shim asha makra Nidarai la shem asha neg donna lakhal amai yaka may nasham. I was ever I'm not showing you on the other hand that I'm gonna sell the clothes back is evak toy Do shim asha makra Nidarai la twice in that parak alone. He says he's gonna pay up his Nidaram So if it's a bad thing why are we singing it? We have to sing every every halo with a different nigan. Well, we singing it. We should lament it That's the toast this doesn't quote those suckin and toasted says like this via schlaimar Dibishas sorrow shari at a time of difficulty is permitted kedamrina. I'm a bhiracious rambha Vayidar yaka evened their leimar. What does it mean leimar lidarai shayun nojum a sahara? It's a leemud that for all generations We're supposed to learn out from there to make Nidaram By the way the the Laniado hospital that was built by the clothes of Mergareba Was because he made a nether during the Holocaust that if I shim saved him, he's gonna build a hospital for Jews so According to Tysus in general Nidaram Khushayram don't make Nidaram in other words According to Tysus if you shiva has an appeal you can't make a nether only if a person has a certain ashara They can make a nether. What's the reason? Mmm. I Am my understanding is the reason would be you don't have time Let's say to give the money. You're really in a jam, but you need this horse So you make the nether the the merit of making the nether will accrue to you and then as a sasham You'll you'll get around to paying it, but so to speak There's no time the person doesn't have time because he's in an ashara Let's see the ritzvah the ritzvah on argumara says like this vakashulan Hey, I mean on the nether assar actually says us to make another battle like mikram allay dibra kasav Nidrai vishulmoy la sham like kekam the whole nether the mashman Smash my any nether ach siv a yidar yak of never nether We're having a dava that would don't say well that was different. It was in a dava a la nether who? Dahaq siv karl aashar teetan lea aashar asvam relah Ach siv vayyidar you saw on nether la sham Vayyamir, we have a passekin hookas where all of cloud you saw meet a nether by yamir. I'm not saying tea tain acham Beardee So turd subatis vista shasarashani darmina and bhagada We say Vayyidar yak of nether la mare la doi rice from there. We learn how to you know Jumba is sara Perush and Hukhai left someone is ill Ay binaya kiyosabai Mutar or if a person or his son is incarcerated I'm sorry kiyam. Oh, you binaya kiyotsu. Excuse me Mutar loi lei mar kakh vakkach ettain in mrappa. You'll had to say I'll give Ex amount of Sadakah if I'm healed. I am a net so mitzara or if I'm saved from distress Vizr haoyo nidrei shalyakah if that was a nether of yakah if it was a nether based sara He was running away from Asav He was headed to the danger of love on and therefore he was allowed to make a nether Unadaram shalyu thral la fis shalyu with sara likewise and cloud you saw me the nether is because they were but sara ah Umm if naysa for this reason no agubhe mixed us makai mice Leetain Sadakah is Visham and Lamar brush ishana vyama ki purmbal bad That's why we pledge money on the high holidays only on those days. Why? La fis shuyu yai madin it's a day of judgment sha sif rehayim sukhamfana of the book of the living is open The hava issara, you know why we pledge Sadakah? We only do it on the high holidays raschaniam kippur Well if he comes noidrin kiddal he not sell me that din For noidrin le makhrassai la altar Now, what does it mean vinoidrin le makhrassai la altar? Mmm, it's a ta sifr it means vinois Nin le makhrassai and we pay it up the next day So if you pledge a raschaniam kippur you make sure that you pay your pledge The next day I But what about places that they make appeals not on raschaniam kippur? I don't know if in your show they make appeals ever but there are shoals in the world that they make appeals You will in your lifetime get a phone call. Would you like to pledge over the phone? So is there any basis for that says a writ of a Sharma kaima shanago leader? It's a ba shabassai. I'm talking other places that the minnow gets to make pledges on on Shabbat sur yamtif yeshli yashif min hagan shawis and kain min neshi yesh matzala aniam you can answer up this practice because It is distressing for the aniam the aniam are in a bind and if they're just gonna say okay If there's anybody would like to participate and yanko says yeah, bleen there. I'm gonna give a million dollars to sudaka That's very nice that yanko bleen there's give a million dollars to daka You know what that means when yanko says he's gonna give bleen there a million dollars to sudaka It means he's not gonna give even one sentence to daka and if yasala says that he's gonna give He doesn't pledge anything, but he's gonna give as much as he can that means He's gonna slam the door on the on his face the next time the ani comes to his house So if we don't allow people to make the Durham then he might not gonna have any money If I'm like you do laham ayah, I'm sure you're in canofia if we don't make an other today on a day of gathering La yia la niam died sarcom that niam will not have what they need We'll speak of same kren la Hakka but over there for we are Reliant to be lenient name maxar hu aniam because of the lacking of the power the poor Shawim din bizar who they stand in distress. So the first answer is we do it because a surah is different That's what tai shu says in hulin. That's what the ritwa says in nadaram dafjord But then the ritwa adds another kula that if we don't pledge then it's gonna be distressing for the aniam I would just humbly assert that probably that's what yeshivas rely on even though they're not aniam Maybe you could say their teachers might be in that category the rabeam, but for any organization to operate in a Successful way they have to make sure that people give money and nobody's giving any money if they don't pledge and It's seen you know the ritwa doesn't say that the ritwa doesn't apply this to yeshivas or other organizations But maybe you could understand that the same type of svara would apply to other organizations now I'll share with you um The again the gamara's conclusion seems to be that it is not permitted to make nadaram in general and the shuchanarach and simon raish gibmul sif dal it says The darach kal is better not to make a nether even to tzidaka rather if you have money you just Then you can make a nether and give it right away the lush in the shuchanark is sakli zar shula yidar shum davar Vah philu tzidaka in tovlidar even for tzidaka it's not good to make a nether lm. Yesh naibiyadar If you have it you tend mead them love lo yidar otherwise don't make a nether until you have it And if they're making an appeal and you need to join with them, you should say be lienedar So it seems like the shuchanarah holds like the shitha Rabbi Huda that when it comes to tzidaka If you have it in your house, so then you could make this nadava The shah explains that in a situation where you have to make an appeal you have to participate in appeal It's not enough if you think believe nether you need to say believe nether So what do we rely on in our appeals that we make in shul's and other organizations? The Deborah Tsina Rov in Be'ermoi sha siman alif ois non zayin actually in the shaylaka alif siman non zayin He's also bothered, you know, what do we rely on to make an appeal? Making an appeal is namish cannege de ala han shuchanark Now if everyone's gonna say that they give it lienedar then the appeal is pointless The point right what when somebody says no bleen other you say no make the nether we need you to make the nether Otherwise, there's the making the appeal is pointless He says many Rabanam Gudalam sadikim Who came from Europe basically? forced their kehila to pledge money to tzidaka and the Deborah Tsina Rov says it the Heter is based on the ritual that we just learned That the aniim are in distress and if we don't ensure that people commit today, you'll never see the money Okay, so what I want to talk about tonight Which I think the connection between Rabmayer and Rachaela's tevis is specifically alif tevis But it's as good as time of as any many people pledge money to Rabmayer Balhan s, so You know, is that permitted? Is that okay? So for first let's see the writva. I'm sorry first Let's see the Berke yoy safe of the Khidah and Shirei Bracha Where the Berke yoy safe addresses this issue Let's see Okay So Berke yoy safe brings this is the Khidah, but it's Saramoto Linda at the time the Shirei make a nether But safer ah now here's a very important idea and that is not all we shine and agree with the writva and tysus The Agudah holds even the ace Sarah you cannot make a nether The Khidah brings the safe for her Agudah Parak Dalid in the Daram Kosovo Hanoidah Afa Pisha Makaymah in Nicaragua Russia Want to make some nether even if you keep it you're called a Russia Yeshma Farsham says that Agudah Afilo Benoideva is Sarah the ha al kul in the Daram Mycila By the way What about selling Aliyos is buying an Aliyah a nether or is that a purchase and The perch and they and the seller is Is it sudaka? Not sure So the Hidah says the Agudah sheet is very difficult Because Chazal say mutter leader base Sarah Dixiv Vayidah Yaakov nether Leimar Le Darois So how's the Agudah going to deal with tysus is Kasha the Yaakov made a nether base Sarah and The Hidah says that in my humble opinion I don't agree with the various answered offered in the Aquarium. Let's say the Marah Mintz and simmon Aientes says that At the time of the nether The per he didn't realize that he's now to keep it or he didn't know For whom it's a after Akhrakakh us sir Lechaime meaning the Marah Mintz says that Even though If somebody makes a nether base Sarah It's only permitted if you didn't realize that you're now to fulfill it and Once you made it you have no choice but to fulfill it Because how could you say that about Yaakovino meaning the Marah Mintz seems to say that in Akhana me Even if you fulfill your nether that was made by a Sarah, you're called Arusha You're really not allowed to fulfill it But you don't have a choice because you made it and how are you allowed to make it if you forgot? So he thus says I don't I don't understand that how can you say that about Yaakovino? He didn't know that he's gonna be in a situation where he won't be allowed to fulfill but I'll have to Now listen to this the Knessus Hakdoyla gives a different answer the din that you're not allowed to make a nether base Sarah is a nether of a carbon But because some of them animal might die Or you won't be able to make it to use your line, but Sadhaka you could do Says look he died. That's not masher from the Agudah That Sadhaka you'd be allowed to do it sounds like you can't make any type of nether. I would ask it's not masher from David Amelaq what kind of Nadaram the Davin Amelaq make look her Davin Amelaq was making Nadaram of karbanos and Furthermore that which he answers That in fact Yaakovino was punished. That's why Rakhal died because he made a nether No, sisqidah. That's not why Rakhal died Rakhal died because Yaakov delayed fulfilling the nether not because he made it and fulfilled it and Biklal we have took him into hilim where Davin Amelaq says avoid base kah the oil ice a shalim look on the door I which clearly Davin Amelaq is articulated that he is fulfilling his nether of karbanos So that's that's a worthwhile shita to know the opinion of the Agudah is that even the ace sara You're not allowed to make a nether and There are many Sukhim that seem to be contrary to that. What about Donate it. What about making a nether to a Mayor Balaness? So the Khidah says a few things about this In Simon Rishkim all the Khidah says that even though it's not good to make a nether If you make a nether to encourage other people to give to Dakah, it's a mitzvah So if you're at an appeal and you say, you know what if I don't pledge then seven guys behind me are not going to pledge either Then you're allowed to make a nether kade leo is mas akhiram now that l'choyra Is a good hetter and it's a legitimate hetter and by the way the kavitz kayim in the Avas kas that says That actually there is a certain my law of making the pledge because We learn out From big lal ha'dabr hazzah that there's a mitzvah to give and and the mitzvah to say that you're going to give And if you don't pledge you lose the mitzvah of saying you're going to give He brings from the Radvaz in the chuvah that your ladder make a nether to tzidaka Your lattice say Selah zulu tzdaka by sushi akhiramani Meaning even nahpe esar there is a sheet of the Radvaz at its motor therefore the Khidah says There is a smach that which many a pledge money to a mayor in order to get something that they need to find in Aveda or to have a certain hazzlaka Many rely on this and they pledge money to a mayor about this but the Khidah says better than pledging is just to give it So again, how is that consistent with what he said in alaf alah to talk about their other people around you want to encourage them? So you pledge but if you need something and you want to give to a mayor So then just give it don't pledge and then he says aghavorka he quotes Ramami pano in my makshikar aden that say Allah Say Allah Khad de Rebi mayor Anini and have kavana that your kavana is all the kavanas that ramere himself had Okay, and I'll just end off with the Chubha of Rhabhayim philagi and shalstachu is a lathe hayim keligbei semikov samah That giving money to a mayor bala ness is not only to find in Aveda It's an early minaug that in any ace sara or or birth. We like nei Royce We give tadaqah the lotional rahan philagi is keha minaug ikarsh in a spa shayd bhot witz witz witz witz witz rahal Bari khotsar itz mizak kamamei has shown us many hundreds of years she is Azat sara kumai kelilah if you have a certain distress like a kelilah uvi always type sha to kubhalt vilassay buratzain Hare makhabi in li'u initialist ramere kazeb or Emir ala kadir abi mairanini komai kain be your shavas al-mashbir somebody is on the birthing stool stool sha oysen kaseid abirzain Okay, our boy site. So these are some ideas about the Indian of pledging to tadaqah even though the Gomara's conclusion is that it's better not to make another Okay, have a good day everyone. Brakhav hasaqah kotar You've just experienced another Torah class brought to you paktora anytime calm