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The Hammer MMA Radio - Episode 41

Duration:
34m
Broadcast on:
19 May 2011
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It's another week with no major fight cards, but there is a ton of news, including Brock Lesnar's health problems, Jon "Bones" Jone's non-injury, and Brendan Schaub's aggressive career strategy.We also take some time to discuss what's going on in the business side of MMA, such as the falling ratings for The Ultimate Fighter, UFC's current relationship with Spike TV, the new "Twitter Bonus", and Chael Sonnen's latest interaction with the California State Athletic Commission. Check out our website at http://www.thehammermma.com and subscribe to our show in the Itunes store.          

 

[music] Hello and welcome to the Hammer. I'm your host, Dave. Join us always when we're co-hosts. Steve, hey. And Grant cannot be here with us this Wednesday, the May 18th, but we do have a excellent show for you nonetheless, and you are listening to us live at CFMU 93.3. You can also find us at the web at thehammermma.com and at addictedmma.com. So for the second week in a row, there are no MMA shows, although starting next weekend, there's going to be like… Those were counts, man. Those are validator, it doesn't quite get enough for our radio show purposes, although I heard it was a very, very good show this past week. But there's going to be about seven shows in the next four weeks coming up, so we'll have plenty to talk about. In the meantime, tons of news, so much going on this week, so it shouldn't be too hard to fill our half hour. The biggest one is Brock Lesnar's intestinal disorder has returned. Just three weeks out from headlining UFC 131 in Vancouver, Brock is out for who knows how long. Well, this one's terrible. I mean, it seems like he never fully recovered from the last, but with the diverticulosis, he says that he chose to rely on special methods of healing, which I'm assuming means nothing. So therefore, now he has no choice but to go for the surgery, which will involve removing part of his colon and then reattaching it. And the problem with that is they're not even positive. If he gets to surgery, if he'll ever be able to train again correctly or come back, maybe he will, maybe he won't. This isn't good at all. Wait, he swears he's going to come back? Easy to say it. I mean, easy to say. We're talking about at least a year to a year and a half off for a guy who's already, I believe, 36 years old. And I mean, apparently he never healed correctly from the first one. So he had that fight with Shane Carwin and the fight with Velasquez, not at 100%. I mean, he'll never be 100% again. Well, I mean, everyone trains ill. Everyone trains sick. No one's ever at 100%. You know, I don't take anything away from the guys who thrashed him, particularly Kane. I just think that, you know, yes, he's, he's chose to go with, I don't know, herbs and spices rather than surgery to try to get back in the ring fast. All these guys make this choice and all of them end up suffering for it. Speaking of clowns, John Bones Jones. Oh, yeah. Well, actually, we'll get to that in a minute. First of all, before, like, there's big fight coming up, Shane Carwin is now in. So instead of Brock Lesnar and-- It will be Carwin versus Dezantos. Yes. The winner to take on Kane for the heavyweight championship. So Carwin has been pulled out of his fight with opponent to be announced. And so now with, I guess, like, now Carwin has slid in now. And now he's in a number one contenders match, which really, I mean, he's coming off a loss to Brock Lesnar. On the other hand, he is legitimately one of the toughest competitors for Carwin. He's very, very proven. Oh, he's completely dangerous. And he was the last guy with a title shot. So, I mean-- He wasn't interim champion. He did have a title shot. Like, I guess it's not that big a deal. But-- And really, he was already fighting on that card anyway. Yeah, I don't feel like he's shorting anyone. I mean, it's not like I don't think he stepped in line ahead of, like, me or Nogara or as much as I love him. He even show up in Montreal. Yeah, they're not-- They're not probably yet. So, I mean-- And the timing really did work out perfect. He was training to fight on that card. Yeah. Do you think this is going to hurt the buy rate of the show? Yeah. Probably going to bed. What do you say? Brock is one of the biggest-- is one of the top draws in the company. Everyone wants to see Brock, whether it's because they love him or because they want to see Descento's knock his head off. Descento's and Carwin is certainly not a significant and attraction, particularly because the season of Ultimate Fighter has been, hypothetically, trying to build the fight between Brock and Descento's. Not really very well either. Or terribly poorly. I mean, I was so uninspired to see this fight to begin with, and I'm so much more inspired to see Carwin vs Descento's. Why problem with this with the Brock lesser Jr. Descento's fight? I was more excited for this fight before Ultimate Fighter. I was actually really excited to see it. And now after, what, like, seven or eight weeks of TV building it up, I could care less. I'm actually more excited about Carwin. You're right. There's so utterly no apathy at all between these two coaches. No, there's plenty of apathy. Between Descento's and Lesnar? Yeah. Apathy, no one cares. Fair enough. I mean, like, you mean there's no animosity? Yeah, there's so there's so there's no antagonism between two coaches at all. You know, and I mean, like, the thing is, to me, like a lot of the great edit shows of Ultimate Fighter don't rely on animosity and antagonism. They rely more on, like, the two coaches kind of not liking each other in a very subtle way, because when they go too well far over the top, then it becomes ridiculous. But, like, when you have kind of a cost check versus GSP, where GSP is just kind of slightly contemptuous, then you're like, okay, then this guy really wants to thrash this dude. Plus, in the end, it's entertaining TV, which this has not been. This has not been great fights. And, you know, to me, the highlight of the season is Descento's, who looks like the most lovable guy in the UFC, beating Brock in a football challenge, running down the core, running down the field, blowing kisses, and doing backflips, while Brock lumbers slowly after him. Like, Jesus, this is terrible. Just utterly ridiculous. Actually, let's stick with the season for a little bit. There's, like, do you have any interest in any of these guys? We've now seen all of them fight. Dana has said that he made a big mistake this season. This is the first time where he didn't have all of these guys have to win a fight to get into the house. Normally, the first episode or two are guys, or they weed out a bunch of guys. They didn't do that this time, and it's suffering. These guys are not fighters. When do you quit in the first week? Yeah. I don't think that guy had any attention to ever fighting. You know, there's one guy quit. Other guys have kind of gotten injured. There's been multiple substitutions of guys coming in. You know, both teams have had a substitute come on in. One of the substitutes won a wild card fight after getting tapped. So, I mean, like, just not particularly good. And, I mean, people always go back to loathing on the heavyweight season of how sluggish and poor those fights were. First of all, those guys were heavyweights. You expect heavyweights to be a little bit sluggish and poor. Right. Second of all, since coming out of that, you have Nelson, Shawab, Mitryon, and Madison, all of them looking real, real serious. Yeah, all of those guys are in that second lake. Actually, if you're saying Nelson, these guys are in the top to snip the air beach here of the heavyweight division now, these guys. Meanwhile, these full welterweights, all of them are just as gassy. They're 170 pounds. Another one of them can last five minutes in the rain without gassing and starting gasping for like a fish out of water. There have been very few, if any, good fight. Like, no great fights and very few even decent fights. Yeah. And even telling me to put these guys in a division with GSP, Shields and Fitch and BJ Penn now, these guys are getting a massacre. And none of the guys even have any personality to make an entertaining, at least the heavyweight season that even though the fights weren't always all that great, at least it was fun, being entertaining and Nelson being entertaining, you know, like these guys. Big baby, all these guys. That was a really fun season not counting. And the coaches were great. The only, the only guy here who's shown even a least bit of personality, the only two guys who've shown even the least bit of personality is, is stripper Ramsay, who apparently is metrosexual, paints his toenails and dances naked for the, for the coyotes. How is this going to pitch this guy into a fight with, even on Myersadol? What would I, why would I care about these two fighting? And then the other only other guy with personality is Chuck O'Neill, the guy who topped out in his first fight and then was like, well, I'm going to cut my hair to gain power because I'm no longer fun times Chuck. And he pursued to look kind of sloppy in his second fight, which he managed to win and get in the wild card. Not the fan. You know, really, I've got no investment in any of these guys so far, which for seven or eight weeks of TV, like, you know, you have more investment in any reality show you watch. Come on. Like, I mean, realistically, this show certainly has not made a star. Both the coaches were already started. Well, Bludner in particular was a star coming in. Dos Santos has not been helped by this because now he looks lovable instead of fearsome. True. Not one of these Walter weights looks like he's going to do a thing in the division. And the ratings are bombing. And the ratings are bombing any year that you've got a spike promotion, a spike renewal coming up. You know, you'd have been better to go with Faber and Cruz and say, hey, if we're going to tank, let's tank with these guys. Then we can go to a spike and be like, hey, when we tank this year, but at least it was a Faber and Cruz. It wasn't our job draws. Yeah, let me stick on that for a second. This year, we've talked about this a few times. Spike TV and UFC, their contract, runs up at the end of this year. They were hoping that this Brock Lesnar season was going to be huge and drive up their, like UFC's asking price and all this stuff. Well, Spike's ratings across the board are hurting. Like they're in worse position as overall than they were last year. And UFC has drawn the worst ratings in their history this year. Ultimate fighters not doing well with Brock Lesnar on it. Their live events are doing terrible, like below ones. Like, no one are watching, even free shows on TV, Nate Marquardt on TV, no one watches. And like, this isn't good at all. And so now UFC is actually talking to a lot of other networks and versus is making a play to be the main home of the UFC. I find it hard to imagine Spike and UFC not being together because Spike half the time seems like it's the UFC network. Well, yeah. They're so intertwined. There's such a marriage made in heaven. Now, with that being said, unfortunately, sometimes marriage is made in heaven and in divorce. At this point, you got to figure that the reason that the UFC is doing so poorly at the moment is because they're oversaturated. Market saturation. Now, you wouldn't know at the last two months where there's only been a couple of cards, but generally, and like what we're about to experience in the next for now, we're going to have eight shows in a row. Yeah. You've got too many shows, you got to cut them down a little bit, do maximum one a month if that because that makes the show is more important when they actually matter. So you're not in the position where you have to headline an event with Marcourt versus O'Kami because good God. I'm a fight commentator. I didn't want to see that fight. It was a bad fight. Who in the world would have tuned in to see that? Ridiculous. And then like aside from that, you also have the fact that they're showing replays of all the great fights constantly constantly. Constantly. They're just just killing the market by just drowning people and you see you need to be a little bit more elusive than that. You need to be a little bit more exclusive than that. You need to basically drive up your market value by driving down the supply a little bit. I mean, once people have a reason to miss one show, like you're like, oh, okay, Marcourt O'Kami, I think I'll miss this one or Mir Crockop on pay per view or something like that. I'm going to miss this one. You get in the habit of missing more than one. Yeah, and anything you can say getting in the habit of, well, maybe I can catch it later on the replays, which they show every day now. And you know, basically to me right now, the saving grace for the UFC is that the rest of Spike is so damn poor. Oh, man, such bad TV. You have, I mean, I sat down and tried to watch Spike on a non UFC day. Yet, I could not believe the worst wrestling show I've ever seen in my life, professional wrestling. They got mansers, all sorts of old fishing, just nonsense. Like, so, yeah, it's the entire network, his promoted itself as being, we're going to promote to men by dumbing our audience down because men are stupid. Well, the unfortunate thing is I'm not that dumb. I cannot possibly watch idiotic programming for that long and not feel like you're basically talking down to me. Well, apparently, you're not alone with that because their ratings are dropping. And so now if they don't have the money to throw out for, you know, to give UFC millions and millions and millions of dollars for programming that isn't drawing, I mean, things could change. And I don't know if versus is the right home for UFC either. That last show, who's the Diego Sanchez and Martin Kamen. Terrible ratings on versus granted, but I mean, versus is always an actual sport network rather than, you know, you having to bleed in for mansers and have to promote coal on your pay per views, and call, promote coal on your fight nights coming up next, coal. But do you want to be on the same network that has like hockey and stuff like that, where you can't be guaranteed to have a show when you want it? Well, I, you know, what the thing is, if you get in good enough at that network, then maybe you can maybe you can start chipping away. And I mean, it's like, oh, I would imagine that there are more crossover fans between NFL and UFC or NHL and UFC than there are between mansers and UFC. True. Because who in the world is a fan of mansers? But my thing is that it's really nice having Spike TV there for them because say you want to run an hour of free prelands before a pay per view, but there's a Stanley Cup game on or something, you know, like it's Spike gives them a lot of freedom and I kind of hope that they stick with them. That is true, but I mean, I maintain, I think the big reason that Zufa bought out Strike Force was not because they gave a leap about Strike Force or about any of the fighters in it, but was because they wanted that crack at showcase at CBS. And you have to figure that if everything goes completely south on Spike, they're still going to have TV on showcase in the form of Strike Force. It's not a replacement. It's a cable. It's not a replacement, but I mean, you know, they definitely they're they now have a strong in there. And if they can get a CBS show together that actually does well, then maybe Spike isn't, you know, it's not the only show in house. CBS has ultimately a much bigger show. And then you're going up against boxing. You know, if I was Dina, why I'd love to take on boxing beat boxing, like, three boxers in the world right now, UFC can be. Yeah, I'd love to see. Okay. Well, you know what, if you're going to do Pacquiao, then we want to have the next fight be, you know, GSP. If you're going to do me, whether we were throwing Brock or bones, you know, then let's pick up that business. Well, speaking of bones, bones pulled out of his title defense against Rashad Evans in August because of a lingering hand injury that he says that he's been fighting with for fights and fights years and years, you've going back to college, I believe. Well, Phil Davis stepped into headline the August show against Rashad Evans, which is not really a money drawing main event, I don't think. But bones is saying now that he's for going surgery and will just have his hand in his splint for a few weeks. And then he wants to fight again later this year, yet the title matches and back on. No, what is up with this? Well, to me, to this to this old dog, it looks to me like Rashad just got ducked. I cannot imagine bones ducking Rashad. Oh, you know what? In terms of the ability to fight. I mean, it looks that way. Don't get me wrong. Yeah. Like it looks sketchy. There has to be more to it. In terms of the ability to fight, I'm not saying that I don't think Jones could be Rashad. I definitely think he probably could be Rashad. I'm saying in terms of them having the history of being in the same camp and being previous training partners, maybe he just doesn't want to fight Rashad. Now, with that being said, bones pulled out of this fight, gotten a position where Rashad is now in a contactually signed fight. Oh, they they can change where Davis doesn't know Davis. He just got a contract. He doesn't want to pull out of it. Davis isn't going to get back out of the fight. Davis won't back out. You know, he's going to take the fight if he can, particularly for a number one contendership. But UFC can change their mind. But they've got a contract with Davis now, so they have to pay him his punishment. You know, so and then the other thing, to me, with the fight not being back on, you bones him saying, well, I've got to take time to heal my thumb and it's going to take months or what have you. Well, yeah, but it seems very much like if you're going to be playing and fighting sometime soon after Rashad, you're going to need a different opponent. So who's that going to be? The only guys I could think of in that are at the tier would be, you know, Griffin, Rampage, Leodoh. Yeah, it really could be any of those guys. Yeah, but it certainly doesn't look like Rashad. The timing is going to work out because Rashad is going to come off of a fight. Presumably a very tough fight where he either wins in a boring fashion or he gets puddled out. Yeah, I don't know what's going to happen with this. If I were them, I would hold off Rashad fighting for a couple of months, throw Phil Davis in there with someone else, just work something out. But if they're both going to fight within six weeks of each other, it's ridiculous not to have the fight. Absolutely. And I mean, Rashad has also come out and said that, you know, some very unflattering things about Jones, he's called him a snake on live on TV. Yep. He's basically he's basically accusing bones of duck in the fight. So I mean, that's that's some harsh accusations. And I mean, if you're gonna be a champion and have the respect to your division, it's hard to have a number one contender calling you a snake for duck in a fight. Well, if I didn't take a fight six weeks later with someone else. If I'm doing it white, I'd spin all this, I'd move stuff around, get the fight, and then you've got all this extra bad blood to fuel it. Yeah, you know, well, I guess we'll see what happens. And speaking of guys who aren't going to fight, Chael Sunin had his big appeal meeting with the California State Athletic Commission this morning, actually. And as we mentioned every week, Sunin's in a lot of trouble with the commissions because of the steroid test failure and lying about it real estate fraud. Well, California denied his license. 4 to 1, the only person that dissented was the commissioner. Now, this is particularly devastating. He's been denied in California. He's been denied in Nevada. That means the other dominoes are going to fall in all likelihood. And the thing is he previously had a one year suspension. Yeah, he lied to get it down to a six month suspension. Then he got called for lying and perjuring himself. So he increased it to an indefinite suspension. Well, UFC now have him on an indefinite suspension until they work all this stuff out too. Like he can't fight anywhere. California has backed up the indifferent suspension. And I can't see other commissions going against them. If the dominoes fall in all likelihood, Chael Sunin's career as a fighter is over. That's actually how we tried to defend himself at the meeting this morning. He was saying, if you don't bring me back, I'm reaching a certain age. I'm in my mid 30s. And this could be the end of my career. You'd be ending my career if you don't realize it's me. And they don't seem to care. And I can't really blame them. Well, I mean, the thing is, they might have been sympathetic if he hadn't lied about the commissioner of Ravada, giving him permission to use steroids. When you lie about a commissioner, and that commissioner turns on you and decides that he wants some vengeance. Well, I mean, like half these guys they sit on one commission and they sit on another commission. So you take off one commissioner, all the rest of those guys know him, you know, like he can bury you and just utter foolishness. Like it's what he did was essentially like going on local trial and saying, oh, Obama said it was okay for me to get away with it. Like he just went in there and just lied about someone else in a different, like someone else higher up than them saying it was okay. The thing is, it's actually more like me going on trial to you and saying, well, the reason I did this was because Steve said it was okay. And you're saying, wait a second, I am Steve. Well, I don't have any power. Yeah, but I mean, the commissioner actually does have power over these guys. So, yeah, it's so this this could be the end of Chills on his ground. I don't think you will see what to touch him right now. I would love to see him fight again. I still love his last fight. I imagine that his career is done at this point. I mean, I figure the best he can do is hope that some of the dominoes don't fall, and he can go fight locals in that state. But if that is if that's the case, the USC is not going to bring it back for you to see the best he can do a strike force. And in the worst case scenario is that, you know, he has to go and try to get the appeal, this appeal, which he's already lost. And hope that he manages to generate some more good, good favor with the commission. This is the timeline of this. Yeah, it's it's not going to be good age. He's not getting back in in in timely fashion. Certainly not to take on a fight with Anderson solo, which would have been a good draw. He's going to be coming back much, much older and with no heat whatsoever. Yeah, this is a very, very bad time for this stuff to be happening to Chilson. Brendan shop, he's been calling out Big Nogue and Tony O'Nogara for about a month now, saying that he wanted to fight him at UFC Rio in August. What persistence paid off, he got the fight. So that's very big. I've actually noticed some backlash online about this though, saying that he's picking and choosing like old washed up guys. I don't I don't see a problem with this. I like when guys call people out. And if you're going to call people out, you call up people with names. Well, I mean, even aside from that, he can't fight car one because they're best friends. Yeah. I was going to fight. He can't fight DeSanto's because DeSanto's the guy's fighting. Rampage, Mir, and Nelson are all tied up. Rampage is in his division. Oh, sorry. Right. Yeah. Nelson's tied up with Mir. DeSanto's in there or, sorry, cane and Brock are both in the shelf. And you just be crocob. Yeah, who are you going to start calling out? Like John Madsen. Why would you call John Madsen? You know, even like, what's the point of calling out Stefan Strouve at this point? If you want to make a name for yourself, you got to be guys higher than you. No, Gary is is not a bad guy to call out. Now, there's always going to be backlash because everyone loves no, and also you're calling the guy out to fight him in his hometown. I think he realistically, a lot of people have the impression that no, Gary's going to lose this fight. Yes. But you know, no, Gary took the fight. No, Gary's going to Brazil. No, Gary want to fight someone at Rio. Why not? Why not? Sure. Yeah, exactly. It's it's not like he's so far down the depth chart from him. Like he has a realistic chance of winning that fight. Why wouldn't he want to fight a tough up-and-comer? Yeah, so I mean, like, who else do they, you know, if if if they hadn't have given shops in O'Gara, you know, they can they can say all shops trying to fight all like legendary guys that are a little bit older and washed up. But at the same time, there's not there's no guy that's available that is a better fight for him than O'Gara. Then O'Gara's at the top of that list. And for Nogara, if you're if you're going to pick some guy that Nogara can beat in Rio, well, then you're giving an old guy a can. Yeah. And that's that's no respect. That's no respect for Nogara. So, I mean, I would rather see a tough, tough fight between a guy who I've loved in the past, Nogara, and a guy who I think is a really talented and promising future and shop and see what happens. Completely agreed. So, Rich Chow, the Strike Force matchmaker, he was just released and replaced with Sean Shelby, who was the WBC matchmaker. Now, the whole the big thing when Dana bought on Zufa bought Strike Force, they said that they were going to keep everybody. And that's already started, that they're always starting to let people go. Although, I think in this case, it's probably justified. Yeah. Strike Force was not really known for being great for me. I know I know they had issues with lots of contract issues. It was like a minefield two book, but like you need you need some new blood making matches and WBC guys. Yeah, he had like a much less of a roster to work with than Strike Force had and did a fantastic job of making matches. So, I mean, you're bringing in a more talented guy who's already associated with your company. And I mean, I think that the Strike Force booker was let go from his position, but I don't think he was thrown out on the street. I think he just has a lesser position at a similar pay. Yeah, I'm not actually sure. So, I think they just shuffle the deck and they put a more talented booker in. Sometimes you have to do it. And I thought this was a good story. It's a little different from our usual like personal MMA stories about people getting assault charges. Chris Leidle was telling Sherdog this week that he's trying to raise money to fix up a gym that he volunteers at in Indianapolis. I guess it's like a police and firefighter gym or something along those lines, but like a lot of kids use it and it's a disaster. Well, he's doing this big campaign to try and get, I guess a lot of Pepsi that I never heard of this before, a Pepsi refresh project where they pick a building or something to donate $50,000 to to to fix up and they do it by boat. So yeah, you can go online to refresheverything.com and the place is called the Indianapolis police gym or something like that. But it's worth going and looking on there because, I mean, this is this is big and then Chris Leidle is a good guy. Chris Leidle is a good guy. Now, Pepsi and Coke, I mean, I question their motives. They've both have been doing a lot of these refresh programs to try to like rehabilitate their images for being soft, you know, soft drink giants to being these friendly environmental companies. It's better than not doing it. Yeah. So, I mean, we'll, I guess, well played and there's certainly good source of money for Leidle line up. And so I give Leidle all, I'll do credit. I respect the fact that he's trying to train, you know, some guys that are in need of training, you know, police and the firefighters help them out by getting a better gym and then also help out the local community and local kids. So I always have love for that. Pepsi had questioned your motives, but if you want to put your money in the right place, why not? Yeah. And I think it's a free vote. So you should just go into those Pepsi refresh website and do that. They decided in addition to fight of the night bonuses and said she's doing a Twitter bonus. $5,000 bonuses to the fighter every quarter who gains the highest percentage and new followers and the ones who tweet the most creatively. Is this important? Is this necessary at all? I think I have Josh Kaashek on my Twitter and he it's okay. And as much as I love Josh Kaashek, it's horrible reading what these guys have to say. Some of them, some of them. I mean, Kaashek is particularly... I love the guy, but I love the guy, but he Twitter is like a nine-year-old girl. I want to go so far as the nine-year-old girl, it's 22, it's like a 16-year-old girl. Everything is slogans of the day. It's like reading a calendar for those inspirational quotes. You know, today I will train extra hard, but okay, I mean, a bit realistically, Dana is very, very aware of the fact that social media is extremely important in terms of building your brand in the future. And guys are already starting to use it to call each other out and get into little feuds. Chelsea loves it, you know. Yeah, son loves it, but son and realistically, who was a guy that had no business, none whatsoever, and no one even realistically thought he had a chance against Anderson Silva managed to generate that fight into a huge, huge deal and look really, really good in that fight and then his career fell apart afterwards because he was a steroid use abuser. But all of that came about through his use of social media and the message boards and the media and the forums. So, I mean, if you could have guys getting over and becoming as much of an important draw as Charles Sonnen did, why not? Now, I don't think most of the guys have personalities for it. Caustic being a prime example, GSP is obviously known for being very, very strained. But there's a lot of guys that are really, really creative. Sean McCorkle. Oh my God, he built up his fight with Stephen Strouff all through Twitter and all through YouTube and things like that. And nobody cared about that fight going in and had some interests going in. He couldn't back it up. Christian, Christian Morecraft and his fight with McCorkle right after that, he had this, he had this crazy series of YouTube videos called World of Morecraft where he acted like a bumbling fool and you know, getting hit with beach balls and whatnot. So, but he actually generated some interest in that fight. That fight managed to get on TV because of it. Probably wouldn't have otherwise. Probably wouldn't have otherwise. So, why not? Rivera did the same thing in this fight with Bisping. Did YouTube videos try to make that fight more exciting? It certainly paid off in the fight, didn't pay off for Rivera when Bisping clubbed him half to death and needed him to head all his down. Well, this is sort of in the same line. You know, Paul Heyman, ECW back in the 90s. He was a pro wrestling booker. You know, ECW. Yeah. And he, I guess he's like really tight with Brock Lesnar. He's co-writing his autobiography and he coaches him on promoting fights and stuff like that because the guys of pro wrestling booker, he knows this sort of stuff. And since he backed out of, since Brock Lesnar had to back out the fight, they asked, I guess the company that makes the UFC countdown TV specials asked him to coach Karwin and try and promote Karwin and get Karwin over for this fight. And like, like, do you think the UFC, like, they need people to teach them how to promote fights? Like, well, I mean, realistically half, I will. Like, like, is it, is there a spot, a full time position on the UFC payroll for a guy to teach guys how to promote their fights? 90% of the fight should be the athlete's physical ability, the actual fight itself. But 10% of the fight is always the entertainment of the fight. You can have a guy who's the best fighter in the world, like GSP. And if he's boring fight after fight after fight, the fans will begin to turn on him. You can have a guy who is an equally good fighter, but he's got a little bit of a personality, like Anderson Silva. And even though he's low sum in a lot of ways, the fans begin to know him much, much more. Anderson Silva was previously, you know, in his initial run as champion, he was not a guy who drew a lot of money. He actually drew very poorly, the champion who drew the least amount of business. Because he couldn't speak English. Well, now that he's learning how to speak English, and he's referencing Steven Seagal, his crazy abilities are actually starting to get him to the point where he's getting money at the level of GSP. Now, there are some of those champions. Kane, he doesn't need the help. GSP, he doesn't need the help. You know who needs it? Frankie Egger. He needs the help. Frankie Egger needs the help. Because that guy's got something. I love the guy. The guy's good. The guy's, he's very, very likable, but he's not popular. Dominic Cruz needs the help. I love Dominic Cruz. I think he's honestly one of the best power for pound fighters in the world. I think he's completely underestimating. And honestly, no one knows who Dominic Cruz is. They want to do a series of ultimate fighters with Cruz and Faber. They wouldn't do it. Well, this is the worst. Yeah, this is the worst. No one knows who Faber is. At the UFC fan, at the UFC fan expo before UFC 129, all the fighters are there for autographs everything. And Dominic Cruz has the shortest line out of anybody. There was like eight people in line. It's like, this guy is a pound, one of the pound per pound best fighters in the world. He's a fantastic fighter and apparently a really cool guy. And no one knows him. Yeah, no one knows him. And how is he going to headline a pay-per-vis? I mean, he has all the right assets. He's an incredibly talented fighter. He's got a very unique style. Very, very unique style. Very, very fun to watch style. His fights are exciting. Very, very dynamic fights. Not too bad looking a dude, although it's not my taste. But I mean, he can certainly appeal to the fans. He's not like a hideous monster. Well, the girls who were at the fan expo with, they had never heard of him before. And they were like, they met him for two seconds. And it's like, this guy's great. We're fans. Like, he's a cool dude. He's a cool dude. And he's got the right law. So I guess going back to this idea, having someone to teach these guys and show these guys or even someone they can ask or hire on to bring this out. Almost every single sport is smart enough to do this. And it's certainly organized sports. If you look at NFL, every single NFL player has an agent and a press agent and a publicist, even though they're not, they're probably not big enough to have the guy full-time or have his full attention. But they definitely have coaches in these things. And certain UFC fighters do, but only the top, you know, the top is levels of guys. You know, GSP has it. Brock Lesnar's had to Haman for since he started. Exactly. They're not, they're not as organized as sports. The guys that are at the top and they have the money to do it, they have these kind of support. But the guys at the bottom, they're just kind of flowing around for themselves. Sometimes it works incredibly well, like you had with Chill Sun. And sometimes it goes into an outer disaster, like when you had mere threatening to kill Lesnar and they had to pull the fight. Yeah. Because mere losses mind. Well, I think you should have a guy like this, whose whole job for the next three weeks is going to be or two weeks, I guess, is going to be to try and get Rampage and Hamel as a fight people want to see. Yeah. They have to send them saying the right things. You don't have to make up stories. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think it's, think it's too late for them. But if they could just generate enough of, to tell the fighters look, if you, if you go on Twitter and you're exciting enough and interesting enough and people want to see you fight, we'll pay you a little bit of bonuses outside of your, outside of your fight purses. Why not? Makes perfect sense to me. And if you're, if you're going to do that anyways, you might as well say, Hey, you know what, we're going to get a press agent to teach you how to use Twitter a little bit better to promote fights a little bit better, to give a little bit better interviews. And for God's sake, teach some of the guys who don't speak English too well, a little bit better English, because you saw, you know, Leonardo Machida, who realistically is not as good a fighter as enters the silver. Right. He peaked in fame and became incredibly popular as the dragon far faster than enters the silver to the spider, because he could speak a little bit better English. Yeah. You know, I mean, Shogun never got that same level of a drop, because the guy speaks maybe six words English. Oh, the evasion that enters in silver got at the way ends the, what do you see 129 Q and A when he spoke to a few words of English, people were just so happy to see him do that. He got like a standing ovation for that. Yeah, if you could get a guy said like, weren't nearly as low some as Anderson so, you know, if you could get like a Shogun rule, who could actually speak English, Waterloo. Waterloo is one of the most lovable and funny guys of them all, De Santos too. You can see them both, now that they're starting to be able to speak English, they're going to get far, far more invested in the fans. You know, De Santos in particular after the season, the fans are going to like him more. Check this out. Kind of the weird story of the week, Vladimir Machishanko, on May 11, he married a woman that he just met the day before. And his best man, Jason perils. I have no. He just knocked out Jason Brill's on about 20 seconds that you'll see 129. What can you see on May Ashanko? This guy looks like every Russian girl's father. He is the reason I would not date Maria, because there's some Russian dude in Russia who would come after me and looking like Matt Ashanko. Probably fighting like him too. Well, he just he just signed a fight to Alexander Gustafson in a few months in the line too, which I think could be a really good fight. I'm looking forward to that. And I guess the last little piece of news, this is a little more local dream welterweight champion, Marius Aramskis. He just signed a face Canadian Jordan Maine on the score fighting series in Mississauga, Ontario, which is about a half an hour from here. And Jordan Maine, I saw him beat Josh Berkman at an MMA show about a month ago locally. And the guy looked like he had it. The guy who looked fantastic and being able to face the dream champion in a local show, that's a big main event. It's Aramskis. I mean, he's a dream champion, but he's still a champion. Just his officers are legitimately one of the fantastic fighters of them all. So I mean, that's the kind of win you get that. And you know, you're in the UFC or strike force or, you know, whatever. So what we're looking forward to that. Thank you for tuning in and staying with us. You've been listening to us live in 93.3 CFMU. You can also find us at the hammer MMA calm and addicted MMA