(heavy rock music) - Hello and welcome to the Herald. It is April 20th and I am your host Dave. Joining us always by my co-hosts. - Greg, how's it going guys? - And Steve, hey. - So we're gonna try to have an interesting show for you despite the fact that we do not have a lot going on in terms of current cards. - A lot being nothing. First of all, we're gonna talk about a guy who is near and dear to our heart, who's helped us a lot, Jerry Langdon. He's provided us with a book called Fighter. - Fighter is a biography of GSP. It's now only available in Canada, but in mid to late May, it'll have its American release. You can pre-order it on the Amazon store now. - Absolutely. So, I mean, this is a really good book. I'm a huge GSP fan, and as we all are, this is a really good insight into his career. Langdon really has, he managed to capture all of GSP's martial arts journey, even before he managed to debut in the UFC, and kind of the rise of George St. Pierre as a martial artist. - He breaks it down fight by fight or something. - He breaks down fight by fight. He devotes time to all of his opponents. So, right up all right up until the cost check fight. So, it's definitely a really, really good lead, particularly for fan of GSP and you all know more about his career. - Well, also I found really interesting about it was that each chapter breaks down a different one of GSP's fights, even going back to his independent days, and built it up, and if there was any bad blood, and then how the match went, and I've been saying they should do this sort of thing with DVDs for a long time. - Oh yeah. - Where you're really like a fighter like GSP, or Randy Couture, or Rampage, or show counter money doing that. And you put it at DVD, and they do it for like pro wrestling and things like that, where you can make it like two or three discs, and you just get to watch each fight and the build up, and the promos, and the interviews, and all that stuff. You could do a whole fighter's career in an afternoon. - Yep. - Absolutely. - And that's when I sort of liked about this book was being able to say, oh, in the Dan Hardy fight, this is what was happening leading up to it, and this is how the fight went, and it's an interesting way to do a fighter biography. - And it was definitely worth checking out, particularly for fan of GSP. We do hope to have a chance to bring Jerry on, and have a word with him, again, to talk to us a little bit about the book, and a little bit about GSP. We're probably gonna be doing that in May. - Yeah, he's agreed to do the show. We'll get him on sometime before the American version comes out in late May. - But aside from that, you're listening to us at 93.3 CFMU. You can also find us on the web at thehammermma.com, and you can also find us at addictedmma.com. - So we're gonna talk a little bit. We've got to start with some of the news. So what do we have for the news, Steve? - Well, really, since there has been no cards at all lately, it's all news this week. - Great, there's got a lot of talk. There's been a lot of talk about Nick Diaz this week. Now you would think-- - That's relevant. - Well, you would think-- - Because he'd be, that's what I'm saying. You would think that he is, because he beat Paul Daily is because he showed himself-- - No, no, no. I was Nick Diaz, I would not think that. - It's because he looked really good, and now people are talking about unification matches. He would be facing GSP if they were to do that. No, Nick Diaz has now said that he's tired of the lack of competition in MMA as a whole, and the crap money that he gets in MMA. He wants to go into boxing where the money and the respect is. - You know what? That was, I think we saw an interview. I saw an interview a little while back where he mentioned boxing, and he said that there was, the guys in boxing were making more, and well, I mean, obviously, the sport's been around, it's like-- - Well, here's the first one here, here's the thing. First of all, when he says, "Oh, the guys in boxing are making more," and this particular interview says, "Yeah, look at Mayweather and look at Pacquiao." Well, that's Mayweather and Pacquiao. Look at Arnett. - Yeah, well Mayweather does his own promotion anyway. - I mean, he's like, "Yeah, Mayweather is making more "because he's doing his own promotion." That's like saying, "Yeah, look at the Fertile brothers. "They're making more of course." - That's like saying that GSP and what Nick Diaz makes is the same. Like, GSP's probably not complaining about the money that he's making. - No, not at all. - But Nick Diaz is making, and for Strike Force, it's not bad money. He makes about 175,000 of fight. - He's saying he's made about 400,000 so far this year, and it's only-- - Wait, twice. - Yeah, it's only April. Now, with that being said, Diaz does not get paid anywhere close to Brock Lesnar or GSP, or even BJ Pendleton. - Well, he's also got to drop them. I'm a big fan of the guy, but he's not the star of the guy. - Yeah, he's not. - Well, he can hang in the UFC and then make the big money after that. - Well, unfortunately, I don't think he's even the draw that Fader is, which probably-- - Well, take him off a little bit. - But still, I mean, the potential for money is there. A unification match with GSP, if it's to happen, there is serious, serious money. - He does raise an interesting point. If you look at Mayweather and Pacquiao, because both of them get a cut of the pay-per-view money, they don't get just the purse money, these guys get paid far, far, far more than any sort of mixed martial artists. I mean, Mayweather on a fight that he does probably gets paid more than Brock, GSP, and-- - Absolutely, Mayweather on a fight for sure. - For any five-year period. - We're exaggerating slightly, but-- - No, not really. He gets paid about $20 million a fight. He gets paid, he gets paid. - He gets paid a lot. - He gets paid a lot. What I'm saying, if you're combining the top five guys and you're seeing five years total-- - That's 25 years. - That's 25 years, people's salary. I don't know, I think we're stretching it a little bit. - Let's leave it at, he makes a lot of money. - He certainly makes a lot more than anyone in the UFC. - Yeah, he does, for sure. - But without being said, boxing, yes, it's gotta, these are the only guys that are producing those kind of pay-per-view levels in boxing. Boxing does tons of pay-per-views, which is not drawn at all. The Kluchka brothers, who are the heavyweight champions of the world, no one in North America knows who they are. They're the heavyweight champions of the world. - Well, this point isn't just boxing, it's also baseball, football, all these other sports where guys make a lot of money. And for being near the best, or near the best that there is, and really, Nick Diaz is in the top level of guys in the man. - He is, but he's in a sport that's not generating the revenue of these other sports. - It's a question of what the nut is. And the thing is, if you look at NFL, the nut for the players is not their salaries, it's their endorsements. - Yep. - GSP's making the most because under-artimer and Gatorade endorse him, Diaz, 'cause he's such a reprehensible human being, his endorsements are for like Jim's chicken shack. - He's not reprehensible, he's just indifferent. - You know, like, ultimately, endorsements is what the big money is, and he doesn't get endorsements because he's not particularly well-spoken or eloquent in most brands, if you were saying, "Who at 170 do I want to represent me?" Who are you gonna pick? GSP, who are you gonna pick Diaz? - Well, there's still a big discrepancy in salary between. I mean, Diaz makes the majorly baseball league minimum, pretty much, when you look at it. And, but the thing is, as I said, it's a young sport, it's not generating the money, it's not on a national network. I mean, if you want to count this quick CBS deal they had, and whatever, he had one fight on that. Like, baseball, football, they have national TV deals that keep the leagues going. - To me, that's again speaking about the nut, is because these guys get the national TV deals, which is why they get the advertising. - Yeah. - You know, you can't see Diaz, as nearly as often as you would see, Terrell Owens, or Chad Ojosenko. You know, you can't not see these guys, they're everywhere. - Yeah, and they both suck. So, what does that tell you? - Yeah, so, I mean, like-- - Well, I find this really interesting is that, I didn't know this until just now. His Strike Force contract, he has the Strike Force contract, says he gets one boxing match in 2011, if he wants, they'll let him go do it. And Showtime does boxing. It's a big part of their thing. I mean, if he wants this match, he can have it. He's already calling guys out, these talk to people. Should he try it? Does he have a chance? - I think it's worth, anything's worth a try. Also, the thing is though, I don't think he's gonna make nearly the money that he thinks he's gonna make. - I completely agree. - Because you have to think, okay, I mean, he's a fairly big name in MMA. Is that gonna transfer over to boxing? - Well, I don't think he's that big a name. - I'm a big MMA fan, I'm a big sports fan. I don't know that much about boxing. It's not like it's automatic, oh, because you're an MMA fan, you're gonna be a boxing fan. - It is. - Well, even aside from that, again, Mayweather and Pacchio get that money because they get a slice of the pay per view. They're co-promoters. Diaz, if he goes over, he's not gonna be a co-promoter. He will probably make a little bit more, I would have to imagine. Otherwise, why would he wanna do it? But with that being said, first of all, you're gonna be taking on a guy outside of your sport in his native sport. I mean, as good of a boxer's Diaz is, and as successful as other MMA fighters were in boxing, particularly at Balfour and Anderson Solvo. Diaz is not a particularly incredible striker. He's a good striker for MMA, but boxing striking is very different from MMA. - Yeah, it is. - So, you know, I don't think it's, I don't think it's necessarily a lock that he's gonna go over there, light the world on fire and get a title shot at Manny Pacchio. I was 156 pounds. - But in your point that MMA boxing and real boxing is in the same, he has a passion for it, he obviously trains for it. He wouldn't use that style when he fights in UFC. He probably has some decent boxing training. - I'm sure he does have decent boxing training as is Anderson Solvo, but you know what, Anderson Solvo is not taking on Manny Pacchio himself either. And if he did, Manny Pacchio would most likely win, just as if Manny Pacchio took on Anderson Solvo in a UFC cage, Anderson Solvo's gonna eat the guy alive. You know, we- - Well, there's a 50 pound lead down. - Well, but you know what, okay, then we'll take guys, we'll take guys that are even winning. If you pick Kane Vlasquez, you pick fun. - Yeah, like super much of it. Like Frankie Edgar and Manny Pacchio, a better example. - Yeah, you know, in a cage, Edgar's definitely in the win, in a boxing ring, in their boxing rules. - Pacchio. - Pacchio is gonna give the guy trouble. Kane Vlasquez, I think the guy could be pretty much anyone in the world in a UFC style, UFC rules match. But if he's gonna take on a Klushco brother, man. I mean, like, as hard of a puncher as Kane is, the Klushco brothers have not been beaten for a long time, and there's a reason for that, is because they're really, really good boxers. You know, they're Olympic level boxers. I mean, these guys, like, the MMA striking, the most impressive guy, Kane Vlasquez ever struck out, was Brock Lesnar. But I was rooting last at that guy. - All right, well, obviously, Diaz isn't gonna go get, like, a title shot in his first time boxing out. But the thing is, right now, he is on the biggest upswing, his career is ever seen right now. I would say Diaz has the most buzz behind him in MMA right now, as ever. Is this, would it be a bad move to go in Dali in this right now? - No. - Probably not, yeah. - And I'll tell you why. First of all, for, if you look at James Tonya and Randy Couture, that got a lot of press, and that got a lot of mainstream press for Couture, as being a guy who was, you know, a boxer came to take him on an image to beat the boxer in a wrestling match. Well, if Diaz manages to go over and take on a boxer in a boxing match and win, which is entirely likely, 'cause he's not gonna get off of a guy. - Yeah, they're not gonna give him a top contender. - You know, he's got at least a 50/50 chance of winning, you have to figure, the guy's got a good right hand. Hey, why not be the guy who brings back a boxer's head to MMA and says, yeah, like, normally, the look MMA guys can strike at a boxing level, particularly me. - No, look at him and KJ Nunes. KJ Nunes has a boxing background in KJ Nunes. - KJ Nunes has a boxing background in it. - He stood there and took KJ Nunes best shots and gave it right back. - Yeah, there's plenty of guys with boxing backgrounds, and UFC boxing is important part of any sort of mixed martial arts game. - Now, as Dave was saying with Randy Kutcher, he's now saying he had his boxing match with James Tony, which is a fairly big deal. He's now saying that Winter lose his April 30th fight with Lioda Machida in Toronto is his retirement match. Do you believe it? - Makes sense. I know. (laughs) I don't. - Yes, I do. And I'll tell you why. - Okay. - Before he said, well, the two guys don't wanna fight are Liodo and Shogun. - Yeah. - Right. And if he's saying they're going to say, okay, I think I can cage Liodo. And then, if I get my shot at Shogun, I can maybe cage him for five rounds. But now the guy who'd be on Liodo is not Shogun. The guy beyond Liodo is Jon Bones Jones. So, Randy, you don't have a prayer against Bones. - Just because he doesn't have a chance at a title, I mean, he's gonna retire. People are like, "Is so many people in sports say, 'Oh, this is my last fight. This is my retirement." - Well, Kutcher has definitely said that before, but-- - He's like the third time he's-- (laughs) - I definitely agree. He's tired before. - Yeah. - Yeah, he has retired before, but he's getting older and older and older. His extreme coach or brand of clothing is making more and more money. His extreme coach or Jim is making more and more money. He has other sources of income now that are probably as much as his NMA source of income. - Which he had before him. - He had extreme-- - He had extreme cause to her for a long time. - But not as successful as it has been lately. They've been on it terribly. And particularly his brand of clothing is, you know, that wasn't a big thing before it is now. So I'm saying-- - That was the big sticking issue with him during the last contract ago. He's just like three years ago with UFC. - His clothing line is just-- - He's had money coming from three, four different places for a long time. - I just think-- - That's not-- - He's not fight like-- - The fight with Machita isn't because, oh, I need money. - It's not because he didn't know I need money, but I think that, like, if it worked out faster and if you had it shot at the title against Shogun, or, you know, someone who we thought had the realest chance of beating, would he say, okay, yeah, I'll stick around for three more months to take on a shot of the belt? Yeah, probably. But, you know-- - Well, we'll find out because if he beats Machita at this show, I can see them offering them to him that title shot. - Completely. - Yeah, you know, yeah, it's entirely possible, but you wanna go out on a winner? You wanna go out on a loss? Do you wanna go on a crushing loss? - You wanna go out on another $3 million in your pocket title shot? - Also, I mean, I think we're, I mean, it's not like these guys look and say, oh, he's the champion, I'm afraid of him, I don't wanna fight him. Like, we're giving this guy-- - Co-tour's a strategy, he's a strategy guy, but we're kind of giving him a tiny, a low amount of credit for his toughness, and like, why, he's not gonna say, oh, he's the champ, I'm afraid of him, I'm gonna quit. Like, oh, it's-- - Like, that's-- - It's time for me to-- - Yeah, that's not the reason-- - What I'm saying is that like, you know, where he is in the division right now, stuck at, like honestly, even if he didn't win this fight, that title shot's more likely to go to Rampage, competing completely into all of this with you, or Rashad, for that matter, 'cause like, you have to figure that before he gets a shot at Bones, it could realistically be another two years, well, how old is he gonna be in two years? - If he's-- - He's late 40s now, he's gonna be cracking 50. - The thing is though, if he beats Machita, they will offer him a fight very quickly, because they know of his age. I mean, they do that-- - Well, you thought that against Tony, how long ago was the Tony fight? - There's a difference between beating James Tony and beating Leota Machita. - Oh, who was the guy before that? Brandon Verra, how long was it between the Brandon-- - It's a difference between being Brandon Verra and beating Leota Machita. - He was doing these fights every six months or so. - Yeah, that's what a lot of guys fight. - Yeah, this is not, these aren't two guys that he beat that are like immediate, let's go to the title. - I know. - But Machita is. - Oh, well, I know, but I mean, I would still have to maintain that, even if he managed to beat Machita, who's still coming off of two back-to-back losses, he's still gonna have to wait for Rashad to take his shot, so he's gonna have to have another fight, and then if he wins that fight, then he's gonna have to go and take on, he might be able to get take on bones, but again, Forrest Griffin and Rampage are still ahead of him, in the division, in my opinion. You know, I would have to figure that, he's gonna be thinking it could be three, four years, before he gets the title shot. - At that level, there's a mixed bag of guys who are in sniffing distance of the title. It's not like there's a hierarchy here. Anyone at any time in that mixed bag will be given a title shot by Dana, Dana thinks it's Orjo Silva, whatever, if they think that that is the optimal person to give that title to you at any time. - I think that, you know, Co-chair has to be thinking, well, if they offer it to me, then maybe I stick around for the three, four months, six months, maybe longer, but they're saying, well, then we're gonna go Rampage, and then we're gonna think about Forrest Griffin, if he keeps winning, and then maybe we think about you, am I gonna, if I'm Randy Co-chair, am I gonna stick around for another three or four fights, fight until I'm 50, and then have to go through another contract renegotiation. - No, you go in on the big win in the biggest UFC fight ever. - Yeah. - It's a good way to go out. I'm just saying that he loves to fight. He loves the sport, and he loves to compete, just like Chuck Liddell, love to fight, loves the money for all the X-Wives. That's true too. Actually, yeah, I didn't think of that. I didn't think of that. So maybe he does need the money. - Well, he loves the money, I honestly think he's okay. I think he's okay. You're free, he's gotta get paid. - He loves to fight, but he also loves to train fighters. He also has a lot of other things he's doing. He loves to make his t-shirts. - Well, we're gonna find out in a week what the scene is there, 'cause win or lose? - And also keep in mind that we're presuming that he managed to get past Liodo Machida. - That's right. - As much as I'm not a big fan of Liodo Machida, Liodo Machida is, he's a ferocious guy when he wants to fight. And when Randy Co-chair came out with this statement, "This is gonna be my last fight when lose or draw." Liodo's next statement was, "Yeah, I'm gonna do my best, "and I'm really glad that I'm gonna be the one "who gets to retire, co-chair, and end his career." Like, Machida's already playing the funeral for-- - What was he gonna say? - I'll be happy to the last man to lose Randy Co-chair. - But what I'm saying is like, "Yeah." Like what I'm saying is like, "Meo, Machida's not saying "going like, "Oh, well, you know, this is Randy's legacy. "I'm afraid. "Meo, Machida's gonna kill you, dude. "Meo, Machida's a really, really good fighter." - I would like to see the MMA interview where I guys like, "I'm afraid. "I can't." - The Caleb Stars. Caleb Stars. With that being said, like as I said, you gotta assume that he's gonna get past Machida. That's tall Liodo. There's only been two guys that have done it so far. - We will talk about that on our preview show for UFC 129 next week. - All right, FEG, the Japanese MMA promotion that owns K1 in Dream, they went on a four month hiatus back in January to get more investors. - That's what I mean. - It's been a bad few years for the company. MMA interests has like, died off in Japan. I was positive they were not coming back. I've said it on the show many times. Dream just scheduled a Bantamweight tournament show, Dream, Fight for Japan, in May. - Good for that. - Good for that. - And Bantamweight's always exciting. - So yeah, I guess they're not dead. So good news for Japanese MMA. Who knows how long they'll hang on, but really good for them for buying the money somewhere. - Well, I think it's interesting. I mean, they're doing the fight for Japan and it's clearly kind of a sympathy, charity-ish fight for Japan. What with the-- - I honestly don't know how the money is being provided. - Yeah, like they've had so many money issues with fighters not getting paid. I'm very, very concerned about that. I've been calling the death of Dream for a while and be aside from that, you know, coming up with one show, all right, that's one show. What do you do after that? - You know, I mean like-- - Depends on how successful the one show is. - Yeah, what's your two-year plan? What's your three-year plan? And I mean, are the Japanese Bantamweight strong enough to justify a whole company and pay them? - There's a lot of companies who don't have a two-year plan or a three-year plan. - That's true. (laughing) - There's a whole lot of tons of companies without a two- or three-year plan. Like Strike Force and Elite XC and, you know, addiction or affliction. You know, oh, wait, all those companies start a business now. Huh. - Yeah, but the length of time taken for the things to go out of business is variable. So, you know-- - You know, Dream, one team has been showing that the point where they were paying their fighters a year ago. You know, a year ago-- - How do they do a show? (laughing) - So the big question is if the money that they brought in will be enough to keep them going. - Yeah, it's not a cut and dry thing. I mean, Dream could still kick around. They're never gonna be huge. - I think FEG's got deep enough pockets that I think they'll be able to keep-- - Well, their pockets were empty. It's four months ago. (laughing) - But like, Dream and, you know, Dream and K one aren't their only bread and butter. - Doesn't mean they're not deep. - What is their other bread? - Doesn't mean they're not deep. They're just deep and empty. (laughing) - That's very true. Big, empty pocket. - Big, empty pocket. - All right. Another company that may be having some issues, Bellator, who was actually doing a fairly good run of MMA shows on the previous five or six Saturdays, running up against UFC and Strike Force cards on Saturday nights, just had a week to themselves. There've been no cards. - Yes. - Writing bond. - Wow. - Terrible. - 100,000. - 100,000 viewers or something like that. - Hmm. - This could be bad news for Bellator. If even with no competition, they're having trouble drawing a rating. And really, now that UFC has bought Strike Force, they are the alternative. - That's right. - Well, the other thing is they were doing better when UFC Strike Force were having cards on with them. - At the same time. - And I think that's because, you know, if you're watching a Strike Force card and it's, you know-- - 90% commercials. - Yeah, 90% commercials, 'cause it was a very, very fast card. And it was like, I think it was about 40 minutes of fighting. - In a three hour block. - In a three hour block. Then yeah, you're gonna surf back and forth to Bellator, to see who's punching each other there. - Mm-hmm, very good point. - If there's nothing on, then the MMA fans aren't home. They're gonna go out on a Saturday night and then, you know, Bellator's gonna go, "Where were fans go?" "Well, you don't have any fans." You have board Strike Force people, right? - Yeah, you're like-- - It's siphoned off the Strike Force UFC fans, yeah. - Yeah, you're basically sucking gas to the other tank of their car. You're not, you don't have your own engine. - Yeah. - Well, ratings popped up a little bit for the Ultimate Fighter for the third episode. What did you guys find on that episode? - The thing is, it couldn't pops a little bit. - It went anywhere far. - Yeah, it was really tanking. What do you guys think of the last week? - Definitely, definitely the best episode of the season. - See, I have to disagree with Greg here, 'cause as much of that respect, I admire his opinion. There's a difference between a great fight and the best fight of the season. This was the best fight of the season, and I'm not disputing that. Ben Henderson and Anthony Pettis, that was a great fight. This was not Ben Henderson and Anthony Pettis. This, these clowns, they put on an acceptable fight for Ultimate Fighter. - I enjoyed it making it a great fight. - There's no way you could possibly use it in the top 10 fights. - That fight could not-- - Of course not. - Of course not. - Did I say it was the top 10 fights of the year? - No, it was a great fight. - No, it was a great fight. - Yeah, it was, it was a terrible fight. It was given how terribly boring the first two fights were. - It was a great fight. - I enjoyed it. - It was a great fight. - I had fun watching the fight, hence it was a great fight. - If you watched the fight together, you left part way through the fight. - No, I did. - Did you do something else? - That was two weeks ago. - That was two weeks ago. (laughing) - All right. (laughing) - So, what is great? So, so, what is great is he says he's in talks with the USC to fight in USC Rio in August. Dana White says, "No, it's not happening." It's probably not happening. Is there even a point to putting Gracie on the show? - Who would you put him on with and why? - That's the question. There is no one. - You know, I mean, when you do Rio, I mean, you've already got all the Eagles that you've got to get onto a Rio card. Being Anderson Silva and a potential fight between Wonderland and Belfort. Do you really want, like, if you're doing a UFC fan expo and you want to say, you know, hoist, come on in as a Hall of Famer, sign some autographs, sit in the crowd for free, maybe even do the grappling tournament, by all means. Are you going to find him 170 pounder to take on? - There's no one to be a good guy. - You know, actually, even Matt Hughes is just like, now it's, that's not even going to be the goal going. I mean, you can do a rematch, but it's pointless. - Matt Hughes would destroy him. - Absolutely. - Destroy him for four. - Destroy him like five years ago, I remember that fight was. - But also remember to be on that card, Anderson Silva versus Ushinokami title match, Shogun Whoa versus Forest Griffin rematch. - Nice. - Very important. - I like that. - 'Cause we can see if a healthy Shogun can beat Forest. And Ross Pearson versus Edson Bartwell is a junior. - Yes, yes. - That's a dangerous fight for your boy, Ross Pearson. - I know, but I think Ross Pearson is gonna win because I always think Ross Pearson's gonna win. - Shogun's reuniting with his old coaches at King's MMA. So now he's back to training with one of us. - Is that for sure? 'Cause he's sorry, they were flirting a little bit. - Flirting with it earlier this week, it's official as of today, I believe. - No one. - And what really Silva and Fabrizio Verdume and possibly Anderson Silva, is this a good move for Shogun? Can the team needs to be training with these guys again? - Why not? - Yeah. - I mean, it doesn't, it's not gonna hinder his performance. - No. - And these are three top guys in different types of disciplines. - Without being said, I mean, would I necessarily pick these three guys as being the guys to train you for Forrest Griffin? Eh, maybe there's a, you know, I might wanna take a little bit bit of a wrestling coach, but, you know, that's more of a long-term goal. If you're thinking you're gonna brawl with Griffin, there's no better brawling coaches than-- - Well, it's been shown in the past that, when you want to brawl with Griffin, Griffin will brawl with you. - Yeah. - So I don't think Shogun's too worried about that. I really don't think this is gonna wind up being a wrestling match between Shogun. - Well, that's a little bit of what Richard Franklin was thinking right before he got wrestled to death. - Yeah, but that's Richard Franklin. There's a difference between Richard Franklin and Shogun. Shogun's going in there to strike and hit, and hit fast and hit hard. And Griffin likes to fight guys who hit fast and hit hard, because he likes to hit fast and hit hard. - Unless you're hit or something. - Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, well, Anderson Silva is just, that was a joke fight to begin with. I'm still annoyed about that fight anyway. - Now, check this out, guys. There's a rumor going around that they want to do Gilbert Melendez versus Jim Miller for the title in Strike Force. - Interesting. - Now, this is, now, Scott Coker, the CEO of Strike Force, he's denying it. But, I mean, the rumor is out there. There's obviously been some sort of talk about it. Jim Miller is a guy who probably deserves a title shot in the UFC, but it's just too far down the line of guys right now. Is this what you do with a guy like that? Do you take him and send him there and see if you can make him a star and give him a shot? Strike Force has no other light weight. Can they do this, like, legally with their contracts? Is this a good idea? - That's the big question. - I think that you'd just see the fight. - I would love to see that fight. - I would see the fight. And I think they can do it legally with their contracts because, ultimately, Zufa says, "Where are you fighting?" - They own everything, yeah, that's true. I believe that they have previously had the ability to bring WC guys up and down, if they wanted to, which they did, occasionally. - Well, because, like, Strike Force, those guys have contracts saying they can't be fired until their contracts up, right? There's nothing to say-- - Or until they lose. - Or until they lose, or whatever. There's nothing to say that the UFC guys can't be transferred to Strike Force to fight Strike Force guys. It's the Strike Force contracts that are kind of the grandfathered in things. Like, the UFC contracts are-- - Yeah, all it'll take is then to do it one time to have the door open. - Yeah. - And they can do so. I think that's something to do with Jim Miller to keep him busy. - Well, I mean, they win the title and then he's huge. - Yeah, but I mean-- - Well, he sees moderately big. I don't know if that'll make him finish. - On the other hand, I feel like, for Miller, this is where we can't send down a double A, you know what I mean? He's pretty close to getting a shot at the UFC belt. And-- - Yeah, well, that's the thing that Miller is gonna have to think about. I mean, that's something that I would love to see that fight is a good move for Zufa to do. - Yeah, but-- - But you take down a very good tough guy and you're leaving the UFC to take on a very, very tough guy who is by no means a walkover. - Well, it's hard to be the second best lightweight in the world right now. I think if anyone's got-- - It's hard to be the best lightweight in the world right now, to be honest, but-- - And this is definitely a step up in competition for Miller. - Nope. - I mean, as much as I love chalaries that Melendez is a step up from chalaries. And Melendez is a guy who could fight and win the UFC title very easily. - Yeah. - So, I mean, this is, it's one of those things where, if Miller is thinking properly about this, he should take this fight because it's probably, as you said, the second best lightweight in the world right now. So, it makes sense. But, is he gonna let this whole strike force? I'm getting sent down thing, cloud is judgment. - Oh, who knows? - And we don't even know if this is legit yet, but the fact that there's, there's non-stop talks about this in unification matches, I think we're gonna wind up seeing all this cross promotion stuff way before they said we're going to. - Well, I don't know. - They're gonna find a way. - They might try to find a way to shoehorn in. I also think it's a little bit interesting that instead of doing a title unification, they're picking, you know-- - You can't do a title unification. - Pretty tough guys, they couldn't quite make it's the title and UFC and you're just gonna send 'em down and go beat on the strike force. - If you unite the titles, how do you run strike force with no belts? - Yeah. - You can't do it. - And you gotta keep the contracts going. - But, I'm thinking that that's gonna be the model they're gonna take. Like, who are they gonna send down to beat up the australian frame? Is it gonna be DeSanto? This is gonna be the last name? - Maybe Sean McCorkley was just released. (laughing) - Rightfully so, 'cause his last white whisper ran this. - So-- - He's showing me to be like, yeah, you know what? I mean, maybe I'm not able to compete with bones to see if I can take on, you know, Dan Henderson? Like, I think it's an interesting concept. Like, I wouldn't wanna see it pan out, but, you know, it could be a bad thing. - I wanna see exceptional fighters fight other exceptional fighters. And this does that, so I'm fine with it. - How about this exceptional fighter? Tiago Silva. (laughing) He's definitely exceptional. He's obviously had his license in Nevada Revoked due to cheating on a steroid test. My favorite part of the story at first was that he had the cheat to be Brendan Vera. (laughing) And then my next favorite part of the story became that Brendan Vera might be coming back now so that it's no contest, so he can't be cut. My new favorite part of the story is that Tiago Silva bought his synthetic urine off of the website called ClearTest.com. (laughing) So, this is our public service announcement for the day. If you need some fake urine, ClearTest.com. - I maintain-- - Will not work because you'll get caught. - Yeah, I said this weeks ago-- - And I maintain Tiago Silva. There had to be someone in your family who was not on Roy's. I don't know who it was. You know, whether it's your wife, your kids, your father, your uncle, your cousins, someone in your family had to be not on Roy's. You know, like, don't go to ClearTest.com. Don't go to the family diver, family for us. - You're not the family for us. - You know, someone you know must not be on Roy's. Go outside the gym for a bit. (laughing) You know, what the hell, ridiculous. - All right, so-- - Shaun Fitch's injury is way worse than I thought. - Shoulder will keep him out for probably the rest of the year. - That's a shame. BJ Penn should be back a lot sooner. - What will I do for boring matches now? Thank God, she holds still around. - She holds next week. - I liked the Fitch Penn match. - That was pretty bad. - And I liked all the matches before that with Penn. (laughing) - All right, and as I just mentioned a few minutes ago, Sean McCorick was released following his loss to Christian Morecraft. Christian Morecraft is now getting Matt Mitryon, which is-- - That's gonna be awesome. - That's gonna be a fun fight. - And another fun fight, which is finally gonna happen after falling through twice. Jorge Rivera and Alessio Secara finally gonna happen. - That's good. - Well, I was looking forward to that fight the first time. - I was actually surprised because we were watching that. We were watching that pay-per-view and I'd be like, where's Rivera Secara? Is this gonna happen or-- - I was disappointed. - It was set to go into like hours before the fight. - Yeah. - So that's too bad. And also in middleweight news, Ellen Belcher is coming back and she's calling out someone-- - With two eyes. - Hopefully it's his other aspects. He's calling someone out in middleweight. Can you guys guess? You have two guesses. - He's over. - Bisping. Bisping. (laughing) - And I didn't even know that. - So who knows if you got it? But those are the two guys that every middleweight calls them. - Yep. - Brian Foster is off of next week's UFC 129 show in Toronto due to a brain hemorrhage. - Ooh. - His last fight was really fun. This is really unfortunate. I would have loved to see him fight. - It was a little too fun. - I seriously. I was really looking forward to seeing him face Sean Pearson in Toronto. And that's unfortunately not gonna happen. Jake Allenberger is in. - To face Pearson. - To face Pearson. - So that's a step up in name competition. - Yeah. - For Pearson. - Yeah. - And that's not gonna be an easy fight for him to win. - Not his tough. - Yeah. - Well, his name's Pearson, so. - You're still with it? - I love any fight with a Pearson and it is a fight I'm gonna watch. - And we've got the UFC fan expo is Friday and Saturday. It's Friday April 29th and Saturday April 30th right before UFC. They're gonna have a big grappling tournament. The biggest name registered so far is Diego Sanchez. - Hmm. - So that's cool. Hopefully get to check that out. - There's two co-hosts here are going. So we're trying to work out because for the viewers at home you can't actually see him. But Greg is actually a really small guy who probably only weighs about 170 pounds. So we're gonna see if we can get him to grapple with Diego Sanchez. - Oh yeah, that'll be so much fun. - I can't wait. - Aw, Diego, he's not gonna hurt you only. Me, me, me, who's Diego Sanchez. And it's a grappling tournament. - He's a gentle guy. - He's just gonna kick top. - Well, now that he's the dream. - Yes, he's the dream. - When he was a nightmare I'd have been like, no, no, no, we won't do that to you. - So the way our UFC 129 coverage is gonna be is we will be doing a preview show next Wednesday on a regular time slot. And then that weekend of the show where we'll do a show talking about the fan expo and the weigh-ins and all that stuff, that'll be internet only on our iTunes feed in our website. And then the following week we'll do the whole recap of the whole deal, the whole event. - And we are getting a chance to see it live. So we're looking forward to that. - We're gonna get a chance to see it on a jumbo tron. (laughing) 'Cause we are in the nosebleeds, ladies and gentlemen. But that's okay, just to be there for the experience. - That's right. - Yeah, no, not quite the seats of our last MMA show. - No, no, no. But yeah, I am looking forward to it nonetheless. And you can find our show at www.thehammermma.com online. - And you can also find us on addictedmma.com. Live it, breathe it, stay addicted. - Thanks for tuning in. - Have a good week. (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]
