[music] Hello and welcome to the Hammer. You're listening to us live on 93.3 CFMU. You can also find us at thehammer.com and on our team. You hammer MMA.com and on our team. I'm a terrible host. I don't even know my own show. I wonder what kind of website the hammer.com is. I have no idea. Probably just sells hammers. Probably sells hammers. So I am your host Dave. Joining us always by my co-host. Steve. And I would be joined by my co-host Greg, but he's lazy. So there you go. Now we've got an interesting show for you. We're going to review the GSP dissection of Josh Kaushak. And we're also going to talk a little bit about the final WBC, and we have some news as well. So let's start with the dissection of Kaushak. Because I'm going to laugh at Kaushak. Oh, that just hurts me, man. It hurts me. So as expected, George St. Pierre came out against Kaushak. He's time with Freddie Roach showed off. He demonstrated an incredible job. He picked off Kaushak's eye in the first round. Basically dominated the entire fight, won all five rounds. By the end of the third, Kaushak was wobbling. His eye was closed. His left leg was in serious trouble. He couldn't land in his punches, because he couldn't see enough for a desired random. And he couldn't really block any of his shots, because he couldn't see enough to block him. So essentially, whatever game plan Josh Kaushak had coming into the fight went out the window as GSP jabbed him in the face for 25 minutes. Yeah, he literally lost sight of his game plan. And that's the problem with facing GSP. Every time you think you've got the answer, he changes the question. That's terrible for the line, but we'll-- I think I took that from an old pro wrestler. Yeah, so in any case, George St. Pierre basically crushed Kaushak's check. Now, he started to open up in the third round. And it looked like by the time he was done, he looked like he's getting close to finishing Kaushak. He went back in between rounds. The man with the towel, Greg Jackson, told him-- Now, hold on. To be fair to Kaushak, to finish Kaushak, the doctor may have stopped it. But Kaushak was probably going to take punches in the face forever. He never looked like he was going to give up. Well, he didn't look like he was going to give up, but he seriously looked like he was getting on the verge of getting knocked out at the end of the third. And then the man with the towel was like, you've already got all three rounds, just circling job for the rest of the fight. So that's what GSP did. He chose to coast out the decision, a very, very dominating decision, but a decision nonetheless. Afterwards, he said that he was disappointed that he didn't finish again. Which begs the question, why did you not finish when you were fighting a guy with one eye and one leg? And I have to, as GSP said in the post-fight press conference, and the same thing he said about Dan Hardy. I mean, he wanted to finish the fight. GSP wants to finish fights, but he's just facing these tough guys who, well, they may not be able to keep up with him. They're just, they're too tough to give up. They're too dumb to quit. - Well, in terms of Josh Kaushak being really, really tough and having a really, really solid chin, yes, I have no doubt that he does indeed have it, a very tough chin and that he is very, very solid. But with that being said, let's keep in mind that Josh Kaushak, I've seen him knocked out before by Paul Otiago. Paul Otiago is in no way and she performed the caliber of striker that GSP is. And in terms of Dan Hardy, his next fight against Condit, Condit knocked him out in 45 seconds. - That is true. - So, I mean, to me, you know, if you're gonna come on and say, well, these guys are so tough that they can't be finished, well, everyone's finished with you. - Kaushak is very rarely finished. - He is very rarely finished, but it's definitely been pulled off by Paul Otiago. - It would have been nicer to see like GSP finish a fight because he has not been doing that. But, I mean, not finishing Kaushak, I don't think it's too big of a deal. - Well, I don't think so either. And I definitely understand the reason for it. But let's go back again to that third to fourth round interval where the man with a towel comes to him and says, you've won the fight, circle and job, circle and job. And that's what he did for all the last two rounds. He circled and he dropped. This was where you could see at the end of the third and the fourth round, he definitely was starting to open up and think about the finish. And he said the finish was there to be had, but he just didn't quite finish it in those rounds. And then his corner was like, hey, calm down. Don't expose yourself to Counter-Fire, go out and pick the guy apart. And I'm not saying that it wasn't the most dominating performance that I've ever seen from a standing up fighter. It certainly was an incredibly dominant beating. Kaushak as a top fighter looked nowhere in the league of GSP. He looked like a fool in this fight. But with that being said, do you think that GSP could have finished him had he wanted to and did not want to for a fear of exposing himself to Counter-Punch? - Well, I believe he even said it himself afterwards, is he could have went in there and swung for the fences and tried to finish this fight. But Kaushak, he is a Counter-Punch here and he can knock you out. He didn't want to get Scott Smith. He knew he could win the fight this way by keeping his distance. There's no way. He didn't want to risk that because he has a lot to lose by going in there and making a mistake. To finish somebody, you've got to risk something and I don't think GSP is willing to risk that for better or worse. - I definitely agree and I think that that's something I just wanted to throw out there. I love GSP. I mean, in terms of technical striking, this is arguably the best technical striking we've seen from GSP. Maybe even the second best we've ever seen in the Octagon with the possible exception of Anderson Silva. And with that said, you know, this was certainly, in terms of Kaushak being a very, very well respected fighter, he didn't look anywhere close to being in GSP's league. He didn't look like he had any of the answers for GSP's. - Now, in the first round, it actually was, you know, I give the first round to GSP 10-9, but it was a fairly competitive contest. Once Josh Kaushak's eye, his orbital bone was broken in the first round and he can no longer see it of that eye, that's when the dissection began. And it wasn't, it was a dissection. - Keep in mind that Kaushak's moment of glory in the first round was he managed to take GSP down. The first time that anyone's taking GSP down in three years now. - That round was not a one-sided beating. You cannot say that GSP dominated the first round. - However, I also wanna throw out that in that round, GSP also took Kaushak down, solidly outstruck him on the feet and broke his armable along with a jab. - Yes, and his eye was closed by the end of the first round. So I mean, this wasn't like, it wasn't as one-sided as the last four rounds were, but it certainly was a round which GSP handled it one. And there was no question that he won that right now. - Right, I agree. It's not like it was a close, like super close, but it was a 10-9 Kaushak was competitive. And then once his orbital bone was broken, it was his eye was closed. - It was a 10-9, but after that it was like how much Kaushak caused it was done. - Well, it was GSP beating up a guy with one eye and he'd looked incredible doing it. But, you know, he would not have been able, I don't think he would have been able to do that to Kaushak without the eye for five rounds. - So with that being said, there's a couple of things that I just want to throw out there for GSP. His next fight is most likely to be Jake Shields because John Fitch is busy with BJ Penn. They've got a contract for a fight already. - It's a number one contender's match in Australia and February. - So against Shields, even against Shields, with Shields cutting down from the weight and being a former champion himself, I still feel that you're going to have to say that the heavy favorite in this fight is GSP. I mean, this guy's the wingrats here of MMA. He's so technically skilled. He was such a small guy that he's literally beating everyone. But I think that in a lot of ways, he's so technically skilled that it's sometimes even bad for the sport because I don't think that anyone in Walter Wade's competitive with him. You know, if you can do this to Kaushak, who can't you do this to you? - Well, that's why the question is on April 30th, there's going to be a pay-per-view event at the Rogers Center in Toronto. And they're talking, okay, well, GSP versus Shields because Shields is the number one contender, but they're also talking GSP versus Silva, because this is the dream fight for the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world that everybody seems to want to see. They need something big for that card. Do you think that they overlook Shields? Like, is there any, do you see any future in a GSP versus Anderson Silva fight? - Well, I do think that it is going to come a point where that fight may become inevitable. I don't think that that point is now. - Completely agree. - I think that there's enough guys still contending in the Walter way division, although GSP would give us a heavy favor against any of them. But he's got a competition in Walter way. Anderson's got competition now in middleweight with Charles Sonner looking very solid against him. - Well, not just that. I mean, he has Vitor Bell for it and then Ocami and then likely Son and his dance cards full for a year if they need to. - And then, also, there's the very technical difficulty of who's changing weight class or do you do a cat weight? Is GSP going to go up or was Anderson Silva going to go down? This is going to be a very tough weight cut for Anderson Silva. So, are we going to see the same Anderson Silva at 170? Or if GSP does go up and he does gain lean muscle to face Anderson Silva, is he going to be able to make it back down with any ease? - Well, he has said that if, at GSP has said that if he wants to move up to middleweight, he's going to do it for good. That likely means vacating the Walter way title, which is why I don't think despite people saying that he's cleaned up the division, no. - You've got Carlos Kondit around. You've got Jake Shields. You have the winner of Fitch versus Penn. Just, I think he should just stick there. - Well, who would you mean before? Just throw that out there. - For sure, but it's not like these aren't guys who deserve a title shot and deserve another crack at him. - Well, he's definitely a Kondit. He's definitely got... - Shields. - The winner of Shields, or the winner of Fitch and Penn. And he will have shields. So, there's no other question that he's got to have to fight. - Well, there is a question that they won't do the Shields fight, but I think it's the right thing. - I think that the money that you spent to get Shields from Strike Force, you have to put him in there with your champ. If nothing else, your champ can beat him, and you can say, "Haha, Strike Force." - Absolutely. Now, and actually, just like a slight divergence, is that Roger Center show. Now, the belief is that Shields versus the GSP may not sell out 40, 50,000 people. They're thinking of putting K Velasquez versus Junior Dossantos on the same card. What an epic night that would be. - The thing with George St. Pierre is, he's got such an advantage is that, yeah, I don't know if he's gonna sell heavily, because you're gonna be watching a technical dissection of whatever flight he faces, but you kind of know who's gonna win. - Yeah, this isn't everybody dying to see him beat up Jessica Shek. Nobody cares in one way or the other about Jake Shields. - So, I mean, putting it on there with Kane Velasquez and Junior Dossantos as the main event is definitely a good thing, or you'd have to give it a really solid undercard. You'd have to give it a lot of talent if it is undercard. - Undercard's own sell tickets. - And yeah, undercard's own sell tickets. So, unless you're coming up with a very, very significant undercard, which to my mind would have to be, the only thing I could think of would be Lesnar Mayer. - Agreed. - So, but then we go forward. We have Strew versus McCorkle. - Oh, I just want to say that Josh Koschek, his orbital bone is broken, and hopefully he gets back into the zone. - Well, I think Koschek's a tough guy. I mean, I honestly don't think there's too many people in that division that could handle, that Koschek can't handle with the exception of GSP. - Yeah, I mean, he will be out of that title hunt until GSP is gone. - Like, he can't beat GSP, but that doesn't mean that there's anyone else in there that he can't beat. So, all right, we go forward. Steven Strew versus Sean McCorkle. By the way, I miss called pretty much every fight on this card, so. - I didn't do so well myself. - I'm a terrible host. - Now what I said with Strew was that, I mean, McCurl's a tough guy, but Strew has that experience. He's been in there a loss to some of the best, but he's been in there with some of the best, and that's exactly how he won this fight. - Yeah, as McCurl got to top position, looked like he would have an edge as he struggled for Kamura. Strew views his long arms to fend it off. Then he grabbed Kamura of his own and used it to sweep to top mount, got the full mount and pounded on McCurlle, which to get a TKO by punches at three minutes and 55 seconds. - He looked good, and according to Strew in the post-fight press conference, he wasn't worried for a second. He said he was like fighting a rookie, and like someone with not nearly on his level, and I believe it. - Yeah, so very, very confident, a lot of composure. Strew looks good. Now Strew has said that he came into this fight at 253 pounds, which is the heaviest he's ever been. - He seemed to gain about five pounds or so of natural muscle between every fight. - He said that his game plan is to put on five pounds of muscle per fight until he gets to 280, and then cut back down to 265. - It's a right game plan. There's some beasts in this division. He needs to be as big as he can. - He's got to scale. - When he was 6'11" and 230 pounds, yes, guys like Jr. Santos and Norton Allison could almost knock his head off. When he gets to 6'11" and 280 pounds, an extra 50 pounds of muscle. - Yes, size, reach, and ground skills. He's gonna be a scary dude in that division. - He's got great summation skills, great technical skills, and once he starts gaining the power and the durability to go with it, look out for Strew. I don't know if he's ever gonna win a championship, but he's gonna be a really, really solid threat in that division. - I don't know what they're gonna do with him next, but I say it's about time to give him someone like-- - I would say Schwab. - I think Schwab, I'll say later, I think he may be tied up, but I'm thinking you know Garra because it's about time that he beats someone with a name. - Yeah. - 'Cause that's what's gonna get him into that top five or six guys in this division. He's had some impressive wins, but Strew has to beat a name. That's the perfect game for him. - You know, Schwab is another rising gun that I'd like to see them mixed up at some point, and that might'll probably be, 'cause Schwab has a dance party already within Frank Mere. That's something for the future, but we'll see what happens there. So, Jim Miller looked very, very experienced against the Charles LaViere of LaViere. We expected LaViere to use his jiu-jitsu to be very, very dominant from the bottom against the talented wrestler Miller. Unfortunately, the talented wrestler Miller showed his own skill grabbing a knee bar at one minute and 59 seconds of the round and forcing LaViere at the top. - I strongly believe that this was gonna be the biggest test in LaViere's career, and he just, he got destroyed. He got tapped, he got, he lost at his own game, and Miller looked great. I'm thinking he is on that shore list of future lightweight title contenders now that's six or seven in a row. He beat a real rising gun. Awesome, good work. - And with that, Miller looked really, really good and won a submission of the night, which he shared with Bocek, which we'll discuss later. So, Miller picks up $50,000. Also, GSP and Josh Koshick picked up $50,000 for the night, probably deserved really so. - Oh, the thing with that is this is the first time that they had the fans vote by text message for Fight of the Night in the press conference afterwards, Dana was like, "We're never letting them "do that again." The fans had their chance to pick Fight of the Night and they blew it because as-- - John Paul listen, John Howard. - No, no, no, no, it was as exciting as the GSP Koshick fight was. I mean, that Champs Pearson fight on the undercard was versus Matt Riddle was great. - That was another great one. - And they wound up giving them money regardless because they felt that the fans robbed them. So, Joe Stevenson versus Mack Danzing. Joe Stevenson was looking for a takedown, looked a little bit too hard. Mack Danzing got him with a counter-loft hook for the knock-out-- - Who saw that coming? - For a second. I don't think anyone picked Danzing to win this one, but Danzing looked good. Well done, sir. Chago Alves found his bite. He looked like he made a comfortable weight cut. - He looked healthy. That was the big factor there. - He looked fully healthy and like the Alves of old for the first time, and I'd say two years. - Mm-hmm. - He looked great. He looked like a killer. So, he definitely picked apart Doomsday. Doomsday had some great little flurries in here, but Alves was much more steadily consistent, much more aggressive and much more accurate. So, he picked up 30-27. Dorks in, lost two miller and a split decision on the prelims, and Bocek is the second wrestler of the night managed to pick up a triangle choke on Dustin Hazlett out of a mount position for a submission of the night at two minutes and 33 seconds in round one. So, dancing picks up a knock on the night for $50,000. Bocek shares submission of the night with Joe Miller for another $50,000. Bocek, after this fight, said, "I think I've got the best Jiu Jitsu in this division. "I want to prove it by fighting in Toronto "at the Rogers Center against George Sutteropolis." - Now, I love when guys call out other guys because often they can get the fight and it shows that they're thinking about their career and they're thinking about this logically. Unfortunately, Sutteropolis is tied up in February against Dennis Siever. Otherwise, I would say, I like him calling him out, but I don't even think he's on Sutter's level yet. - Well, it's a good call. It was the right call to make and I'll tell you why. Bocek is probably, as a Canadian fighter, on the short list of guys to fight at the Rogers Center. - I'm sure he'll be on the card. - And, having called out Sutteropolis and saying, "I think I can be him with my Jiu Jitsu "against his Jiu Jitsu," that's the kind of thing that where do we make a boss like that publicly? Daniel has the head up out of saying, "Okay, we'll see you fight George Sutteropolis." - Oh, I think it's a smart move. I just see it unlikely to happen, but I give the guy credit for trying. - It doesn't line up because of Sutteropolis's schedule, but keep in mind if Sutteropolis wins handily, he may well say, "You know what, I'll take the fight "if he doesn't get injured in Australia." Second of all, I think that the conversation before was, "Who's Mark Bocek?" Now the conversation is gonna be, "Well, do we wait and give him George Sutteropolis "at a different time or do you give him someone else "for Rogers Center?" - He's raised his profile both externally and internally in the company. He's definitely carving a niche for himself, which given the fact that you're in the lightweight division, which is the most packed division, and you've got Jim Miller getting a crushing win, and Mack Danzen getting a crushing win, you gotta do something special to get your job safe in that division, so this is a smart move. - I wish more guys would do it. It makes the Booker's job easier, it gets people thinking, awesome. - Yeah, so we go forward to the news. Oh, one more thing, sorry, I just wanna cover one last thing. Matt Riddle versus Toronto native Sean Pearson. This was a very, very interesting fight. - Pearson took this fight on no notice. - On no notice whatsoever. This one aired, it went to decision, it was a very, very exciting fight. Pearson showed some great striking, almost got a victory in the first round. Riddle showed some incredible shadow boxing, he punched the air a lot, the air was definitely very, very forgetful of this, he never actually connected with Pearson, but I guess he threw a lot of punches. - It was odd, but exciting. - Yeah, so this is almost like watching a kid's fight where they're like, I'm punching here, and if you get hit, it's your own fault. - And I'm glad that the UFC took care of them by giving them like a secret bonus because they really did deserve fight of the night. - And Pearson definitely won a very, very convincing victory over here, which will help them out in the World War Division, which is packed. - All right, so the Ultimate Fighter is gonna be filming sometime in the next month, and they still don't have coaches yet. So Dana dropped three sets of names that he's trying to get, and I don't really know how likely they are, but-- - Well, the first one we used to cover is obvious picks would be Muir and Lesnar. - The problem with this is that Lesnar-- - Lesnar hates-- - He's anti-social, he doesn't like doing stuff like that. He doesn't even like when the camera's on it for 10 minutes to hype up a fight, let alone three months of TV or six weeks, however long it takes them to record something like this. - Now this would be the biggest thing. If they can get this-- - And Muir can talk, and people love to watch Lesnar. This would be the biggest thing possible. I just don't see it happening. - And also because that's not a very popular fight right now, but if you give them a season together in Ultimate Fighter, maybe you can get some buys for this. - Frank Muir can sell anything to anyone. That would be massive if they could do this. - Yeah. - And then the other option is "Chail Sun and in Butterly Silva," which would be great TV because everybody likes Silva and "Chail Sun and it's a great talker." It's actually a lot of the same way as the wife Frank Muir would be a good choice. Problem is they do the show in Las Vegas and there's questions about Sun and availability and being regulated, although I'm not sure what he would need to be regulated for. - Well, because it's-- - To be a coach, you know, and he wouldn't be needing to be regulated to be a coach. He definitely has a strong role in coaching at Team Quest and Warner and Silva has his own little academy at the One Fight team. So I mean, these are both guys that know how to train guys and they're both guys that are very charismatic. Sun is a great talker with everyone loves Silva. And Silva's English is picked up to the point where I think he can definitely make this interesting season. So, you know, in terms of middleweight fights that we fund to watch, Silva versus they're not doing anything with Silva. He's a big name, they're paying him a lot of money. Why not throw him with son? - Oh, I think it's a great idea. But as I said, apparently he has to have there's some issue with him being regulated there, like by the athletic commission, and that's gonna be more difficult because of his drug suspension and all this stuff. And I honestly, I don't understand how it all works, but hopefully they can work that out because that would also make great TV. - I mean, I don't think he's banned from training or from training others. He's just not, he's banned from fighting-- - But he may be from seconding people. - Fair enough. Also, the third choice is Raya Faber and Miguel Torres, which is from a name standpoint, Faber means ratings. People like to watch him fight, and also I think would be a great idea to help get these smaller weight divisions over. - I definitely think it's an interesting choice. I don't think it's the right time. People like Faber, but I don't think that Bantamweight is a big enough name in the global fighting community yet. - Well, he hasn't even fought in the UFC yet. I think that next season, this would be a natural pick to do. - After these guys have had a fight in the UFC, then people have seen, and they really do need to bring in some Bantamweight and featherweight blood into the company, 'cause really, unless you're one of the 200,000 people to watch every WBC show, you don't know these fighters. - Yeah, so if you've seen your favorite in a sneaker ad, that's pretty much it. - So, I mean, it's definitely a good idea. I just don't think the time is right for it. So, I mean, ultimately, the dream would be Lesnar versus Mier to make that fight exciting. - That's unlikely, dream. - But it's unlikely, 'cause Lesnar is so anti-social. With that being said, why are you solo versus Chelsea? - I like it. - That'd be an interesting match and it'd be an interesting season. - If Sunning can't do it, I would even consider keeping Silva in there and dropping in. - Bisping is volunteer. - Bisping. - To Leiban, one of these guys. - Yeah. Bisping is called out there. He would love to coach a season against Juan Roli Silva and get his rematch. - I'd take it. - So, I mean, there's definitely guys. Juan Roli Silva is definitely on deck. We should be doing something with him anyways. And there's guys in the middle way for his division from the fight. - And they gotta figure this out quick, 'cause they gotta start rolling really soon. - True. - Yeah, and Dana actually just announced that the UFC is returning to Brazil for the first time since the late 90s, since before Zufa even bought the promotion. So, in August, they're gonna be doing UFC Rio. What's your dream made event for that card? - I would have to figure that it'd be Shogun versus Rashad. - I think they're playing on doing that in the spring. - You know, so. But, I mean, if you can get Aldo or Shogun or Anderson Silva on that card, that's a massive-- - Aldo, Shogun, Anderson Silva, those are the three Brazilian champs at the moment. In terms of top drawing Brazilian names that they have that are not those three guys, the Santos, if he's not tied up with Velasquez, Lio de Machida, if he's not tied up with being Lio de Machida. And, you know, realistically, those are the only two that aren't champions that I think could realistically be an event card for you. But you've definitely got like great Brazilian fighters going right now, and they should make a really great card. What an interesting year. They're gonna have a successful show in Australia, which just like set like a sales record there, this world's biggest show ever in Toronto, going to Brazil, like Darramp Fire. And Alephs Rovarim over in Japan, he just won the K-1 kickboxing tournament, like one-night tournament, guys a beast. - Well, Rovarim, he's definitely, he's definitely one of the best technical strikers in the heavy weight division, if not the best technical striker in the heavy division, you could make the argument for Junior de Santos, but it'd be very, very close because De Santos does not have the great knees and kicks that Rovarim has. Now, Rovarim being so powerful, he does have a spotty record dating from his time in 2005. - That is when he was much smaller than he is now. - Now that he's gained 60 pounds of muscle and durability, wow, this guy's something ferocious. - I mean, he's an MMA guy who won a kickboxing tournament, like he's-- - Well, he's a kickboxer who went to MMA and went back to kickboxing to win it. Now, the problem with this is that he's so good at K-1 and he's beating so many people at K-1 that he's as a strike force heavyweight champion, they can't get this guy to come back to fight. - Well, he just said after winning that K-1 tournament that he really wants to win the dream heavy weight title. So he'd rather be fighting in Japan right now, which means the strike force is not either, is either not paying him enough or not giving him an extra exposure. - Are they not giving me exposure? - Or fights he wants. - They're messing around with him. - What a mess. - So you've got your heavyweight champion and he's not willing to come back and fight because he's making the money in K-1. - Strike force better use this guy or else UFC's going to steal him. - Yeah, and I mean, he would definitely get well paid in UFC. - Absolutely, I mean, his stock just risen. I mean, I know a lot of American fans don't watch the Japanese stock, but winning the K-1 tournament and if he goes and wins the dream heavyweight title, UFC will want that. That's huge, that's easy to sell. Well, he's going to come over with the strike force heavyweight championship, the dream heavyweight championship and the K-1 heavyweight championship. Yet, even with all three of those, the one thing he's always struggled with is takedown defense and pressure. And who's the god of takedowns and pressures in UFC heavyweights, Kane Velasquez? So you're going to bring the champion of all the other fighting promotions in the world to come over and likely to lose to either Kane Velasquez or Brock Lesnar. You know, you can't get a better pickup than that. - It's a perfect scenario for UFC. - Yeah, he's like, "Data would love to do that." - Now, last week we talked about Bellator. They are signing with FX, which is a huge TV deal. Yeah, apparently that was premature. The news got out everywhere and it's not really true. They are on MTV2, which is a really small, really unpopular network. And Bully beat down the show where Jason Mahan Miller pays bullies to get in the ring with Andrea Olofsky. That show gets to be on MTV1. - Well, Mahan Miller is very, very exciting. - Oh, he's cool. - He's an interesting guy. - This is not a good deal. We actually joked about last week, about what we're actually discussed. Maybe we should start covering Bellator. They have a really good TV deal and a lot of eyes on them. No one's going to be watching Bellator. - Yeah. - Unfortunately, I think that the fake FX deal is going to be the most promotion they ever get until UFC buys them. - I definitely agree with that. I mean, Bellator, we're probably going to end up watching this season, one way or the other, but with that being said, they're just not a market draw at this point. And they're creaning back and forth. They're not blowing money, but they're not making it either. So they're trading water. - And I've always said, you're never going to succeed with Bellator as a name. I've Wikipediaed what Bellator means so many times and I can never remember. That's not a remarkable name. They may as well call themselves like cage warriors, warriors of death. Like it's, Bellator is bad. - This is not particularly marketable. - Ultimate fighting championship, extreme cage fighting. Like these are names that you can sell. What's a Bellator? I have no idea. So maybe they need a name change first and then they'll get a better network. - So we go forward and we're going to cover the WEC card, which will be Thursday, December 16th, tomorrow for our live. - So here's our issues. We go in the air live and within the next 24 hours the WEC show will be on. So there's not much of a point of running down the whole card 'cause by the time everybody listens on the internet it'll be done. But what is the card? - The card, the main event is what we're going to cover here. And we've got the main event is going to be Henderson versus Pettis, Bendo versus Showtime Anthony Pettis. Now, Showtime is as exciting of fighters. You're going to watch in the lightweight championship hunt. Bend to Henderson is incredible. His guillotine is fantastic. His striking is very, very good. - And the key with this fight is the winner will be the WEC light heavyweight champion. They will face the winner Frankie Eiger and Gray Maynard for the UFC heavyweight title in the spring. - So all four of these guys are definitely going to have significant futures in the title scene of the UFC company. And one of these guys is most likely to become a champion of the UFC division soon. - And then you've got Dominic Cruz. - And then you've got Dominic Cruz. - Dominic Cruz is going to fight Scott Jorgensen. Scott Jorgensen is tough as nails. Cruz is a fantastically fun striker to watch. - The winner of this game becomes the Bantamweight champion of the UFC. - That's huge. - Donald Serone, the Cowboys can take on Chris Horidecki. - Now, Donald Serone is the fun guy to watch. Paula Shaskiw is going to take on Kamal Shalaroos. These are all lightweight fights. So these are the guys that are going to make their mark in the UFC, most likely. Stroni and Shalaroos in particular. So this is going to be, this is the last WEC. I'm going to want to watch it just for the historical view. - Well, the cards are always good. So essentially you've got to look at this like a choose your own adventure show. If you're listening to this before December 16th, then watch WEC. It's going to be an exciting night of fights. If you're watching this after like from December 17th on, man, that was a great night of fights. Too bad you missed it. - It's really impressive to watch. So I think this is what all the time we have for this week. Thank you for tuning in to us live at 93.3 CFMU. - Well, we'll do a quick recap of WEC next week and we'll do our best of the year show, which I think should be pretty interesting. - Got a lot of best to go over. - Cool. - We're going to do some more just as well. - For sure. And yeah, so it's www.thehammermma.com. Check us out on iTunes and everywhere. - Thank you for listening.
