[music] Hello and welcome to the Hammer. It is Wednesday, October 20th and we've got a great show for you. I am your host Dave. Join us always by my fellow hosts and good friends. Greg, how's it going guys? Of course, the wonderful Lord of the Soundboard, who's a very important part of our show. It's Steve. It's Steve. Thanks, Dave. [laughter] So, we've got a good show for you. We're going to talk about Brock Lesnar and Cave Laskas and, of course, you can listen to us live at 93.3 CFMU. You can also find this on thehammermma.com on iTunes and no longer on critical cable, we think, but maybe. We're not sure. Go see for yourselves. Go see for yourselves. If you're not doing anything else tonight, flip some channels. So this weekend, on Saturday, on UFC 121, it will be the famous and legendary Brock Lesnar taking on Cave Laskas, his new number one contender. This could be the biggest fight of the year. I think it will be the biggest fight of the year. Bigger than Karwin? Yep. It's already looking to be bigger than Karwin. Well, a good trending topic, whenever they play hype specials after the Ultimate Fighter Show airs, the hype special usually drops off because it's a later show and it's a hype special. It's not the actual show. And they're essentially watching a documentary as opposed to people fighting. Yeah. Whereas with this time, even though that this is actually quite a well-rated season with GSP and cost check, the ratings are going even further up for a worse time slot to watch the hype special above Lesnar and Vlasquez. People are very invested in this fight. They want to see it and it's going to be a good fight. I want to see it. So we're all looking forward to it. So getting going forward to the actual fight itself, Lesnar, huge wrestler, very, very powerful, probably the best pure wrestler in the division without being said. Yeah. I agree with that. Without being said, he also answered a lot of questions about his durability and his heart in the Karwin fight. He took a tremendous pounding and managed to come back. He's also showed that he's evolving his game. He's learning to do some submissions. He's learning some more intel and event-evolved ground pound. There have been skeptics of Lesnar since the second he came into the UFC. There still are. I don't understand. I know that's true. But I don't understand how you possibly can be that after Karwin. There should be no question. You know what? It's people want to see, because the thing is I've never seen Brock as a villain, to be honest, and a lot of people for some reason were seeing him as a villain and just didn't like him or he was a pro wrestling outsider. And then he was the bad guy when the whole Frank Muir thing. And I mean, there's always going to be people who don't like the guy, because he's very polarizing. But with that being said, he certainly won over a lot of people, because a lot of people with this legitimacy, not only with his performance in his Karwin, but also with the new humble side he showed in the interviews afterwards, where he was more polite and respectful towards the organization and to the other fighter. It's amazing what that did for his image, actually, people are like, "Oh, he's more humble now." I definitely thought about it. You know what, honestly, he hasn't changed his character. He's still the same guy. He never was. He never was as much of a jerk as people were making him out to be. I mean, excuse me, he just came from pro wrestling, he came in behind when it came to fanfare. I mean, people wanted to see him, but they saw him as a villain. And I mean, there's really no reason to. Well, with that being said, we go forward to Kane Velasquez. Now, Velasquez is a real dynamite fighter in the heavyweight division. He's a heavyweight who fights like a lightweight. His cardio is the best in the division by far. He's close to his good wrestlers, Brock is too. He's extremely good wrestler. He's very, very good at his double. His power double leg is very impressive. Yeah. He's undefeated as well. Like this guy. He's undefeated. He's quickly made himself one of the top few names in that division. And the other thing with Kane Velasquez, you have to give him credit for, his striking is showing some significant improvement. His ground pound is relentless and feared by almost everyone in the division. His last few fights have just been domination. He's dominated impressive opponents, you know. Congo and O'Gara. Far more. His win has been far more decisive than Brock's wins. And then with that being said, Velasquez is famed for his work ethic. He might be the only opponent who's outworking Brock coming into a fight. Now, it's not like we've seen him go five rounds, but I don't have much question that he can do it. Yeah, I don't think he'll have any problem going five rounds. In fact, I think this fight is going to go late. I don't think it's going to end early. I really think that these two guys are both durable enough and just, I mean, they're just such incredible athletes. They both have like, Brock is huge, but he's quick and he's got cardio. Like he's a division one wrestling champion. He's got cardio and so does Kane. Well, with that being said, it takes more to move a guy who's 300 pounds, it does take a guy who's 240 pounds. Yeah. That's true. The gas tank are somewhat fair just because the simple laws of physics and inertia, obviously the guy's going to have some limitations on his gas tank. He's just a freak though. He's just a freak when it comes to that though. He's just such an incredible athlete. They both are like, I think this is going to go five. I really do. It could go five and I don't see either of these guys gassing completely. I don't know if I know these guys can finish the other guy unless lesser gets on top and they stop it. That's with Velasquez's wrestling, that's not even all that likely. Yeah, I don't think that's likely and also if Karwin can't, couldn't put Lesnar away with his power, I don't think Velasquez is going to be able to put Lesnar away with his power either. And as the fight goes on, people are going to get more tired and there's going to be less mustard on the punches. So this is looking like five. So what are your calls for the fights? I think Lesnar is going to win by decision. I think Lesnar is going to win as well. I actually, I am going to call, I think he's going to finish him the later rounds. I don't think it's popular opinion. I just see Lesnar not gassing like people like, I don't think he'll gas either. And I think he's just got the power that it's just going to take the right takedown to the right position for him to finish Velasquez. I definitely agree with the strength of Brock's takedown and how we can definitely finish Velasquez. I just don't think that this is the fight that he's going to do it in. I'm calling Kane and I'll tell you why. Kane is a phenomenal technical wrestler in a lot of ways as good as a young Randy Coater. Brock, for as good of a wrestler he was, yes, he was able to man handle Frank Mirror. He was not able to man handle Gashin Carl when he had gas in the tank and he was not able to man handle Randy Coater. It takes time to win a wrestling match against another very skilled wrestler. Velasquez is definitely trained with guys that are as big as Brock and he's wrestled with guys in Dancing WA. They're as big as Brock. I don't think Brock is going to be able to do that power double leg as easily as he thinks he's going to be able to and I do think that Kane and Velasquez is going to be able to out point him on the feet because he's got very crisp technical striking. I think that Velasquez is going to be able to take this round deep. I think he's going to be able to stay out of Brock's shots, keep all against the cage, use the cage well. Keep in mind that even though Glesner's huge, Velasquez is 245 pounds of Velasquez's small. So I think that Velasquez is just his time. He's not that much smaller, but we have seen Velasquez rocked yesterday and I can see Lesnar and Patrick. Absolutely. But I think they can both rock each other. I just envision it. Lesnar's going to stun him. He's going to take him down and he's not going to get off him. I think that whoever wins this fight, Jr. is taking the next. That's all I got to say about that. I have to say, I think that this is Velasquez's time. I've said it for before. I think he's the man of destiny in the heavyweight division. I think he's bound to win this fight. I think he's got the right tools and I think he's got the right drive and motivation for this fight. He's definitely not coming in this fight thinking it's going to be an easy fight. He's coming in desperate and hungry, which is a good place for fighter to be going to fight. And I think he's going to be able to win this one. So that's our calls for the main event. It's going forward. One way or the other. No matter what happens, this fight is definitely going to win something. If it goes five rounds, it'll win five the night for sure because it's going to be the most titanic struggle you've ever seen. If either of these guys knocks out or subbs, the other guy is definitely going to be knocked out of a submission of the night. Now with that being said, we go forward to welterweights. We have Jake Shields making his UFC debut and they're throwing him right in the deep end against Martin Cameron, a former number one contender. No, Cameron, this fight, I think Shields is going to win first off. I think that Cameron is good all around fighter, but I just think that Shields is just way too good of a wrestler. Shields just is able to employ his game plan with such, I mean, if he's able to do that to Dan Henderson, who's a great deal bigger than Martin Cameron, then he's going to have no trouble throwing Cameron around. Cameron will be taken down at will. Yeah. And I don't know of his career. He's got a fairly good ground game since Michigan. Good submission of fun. Jake Shields is a smart fighter, he's a careful fighter, and I think he's meant to win this fight. I think he was given this fight, you know, to beat Cameron. And again, if he loses a Cameron, then it was just to show, okay, he doesn't have, he doesn't have it, but he's expected to win this and expected to go on in face GSB. We've seen upsets before. If anyone can pull it off over Shields, it is Cameron. Oh, Cameron. He's no joke. He's got punch to his chance for sure. He's definitely. Well, here's the thing with Cameron. First of all, he's definitely going to out point Shields any time the fight is on his feet. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Second of all, his counter wrestling is actually quite good. He's been taken down before, absolutely, but he can stand up when he's through. He can definitely escape from about position. And third of all, his submission game isn't just good. It's very good. Very, very good. In the scrambles, he's some of the best of submissions. Now in the Mayhem Miller fight with Shields, yes, Shields was able to control him in that fight, but at that one point, Mayhem Miller got on his back, had him in the rear naked choke, and Shields was saved by the bell. You got to remember, too, though, Miller's a great deal bigger than Cameron as well. But they're in the same division. No, they're not. No. This is Walter Wade. Shields is cutting down for this. You know what I mean? Like they'll be in the same division. They'll be in the same division. They'll be in the same division. He's much better at submissions than Miller, and he's much better on his go on the ground than Henderson is. Henderson uses wrestling to get the ground in pound or to stay out of the ground in pound, but he's not a phenomenal ground fighter, and Cameron is. With Shields' size, I see him being able to take down Cameron and control him. Shields is too good to beat. Cameron is not going to beat Shields. It's going to be a unanimous decision, Shields. Okay, well, it's definitely a good call. I'm thinking that Cameron is going to be able to pull off a slick slope here. I think he's going to show us some series of Anderson Silva against Shields. So that's what I'm going to say. That's pretty cool. If this fight is a fraction of as exciting as that fight was, then I'll eat this mouse in front of it. Yeah, I can't see. I don't think this fight is going to be very exciting, I got to say. No, I don't think so either. The Brock and Kane are going to have to wake us up from the Shields' hand fight. So for another fight that promises not to be very exciting, the other welterweights on the card, Diego Sanchez versus Paul. This is going to be really fun, that's going to be great. No sarcasm, this will be great. Diego is a worker, he likes to come out and swing, he likes to try to win by volume and pointing out his opponent. He likes to shoot on people and get knee in the face. Tiago is very, very powerful, he does have some of the most knock up power in the division. Oh yeah. And he's also really good submissions. If he stuns you, he goes right for Chokes, he's got tons of killer instinct. Yep. What's your call for this? Tiago. I don't know. He's bigger. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Paul, Tiago. Tiago's bigger. I think Tiago is better, to be perfectly honest, Diego Sanchez is just, he's too, he's just not controlled enough, he just, he really needs to, like, I mean, the whole Sanchez-Guita fight, that just totally turned Diego Sanchez into a reckless fighter. It really did. And he has not, he hasn't looked at as good sense. No, he hasn't. Has not been the same fighter in the last year. And I just, I've lost, I used to bet on Diego all the time and I've lost a lot of faith in the guy. I hate to just turn on a guy because he's lost a few in a row, but I don't see him beating too. He's also fighting in the division that he shouldn't be fighting in. He's too small for that division. He's really, he needs, like, he's good in lightweight, he's not, he can't even be the lightweight champion. Like, BJ Penn annihilated him. So for him to go up to welterweight, has he won a match in welterweight yet? No, John Hathaway defeated him pretty sadly. Yeah. Well, he won matches in welterweight. Yeah, previous play. Yeah, yeah. But I'm saying since he moved up. Since he came back, no. And if you're not going to, if you're not going to beat Hathaway, like Hathaway's a young gun, they'll get me wrong, but you're not going to beat Tiago. I agree. And I think Tiago is really looking to prove himself after that cannon fight too. Well, but Sanchez is equally looking to prove himself after that, the John Hathaway fight. He's on his feet, his my tie is, he's excellent, his boxing is excellent. He's a much more technical fighter than Tiago is on his feet. On the ground game, his submission defense and his counter wrestling is pretty good. He can escape. So, I mean, he definitely has the tools to dance around Tiago, tire him out, and wear him down, much as I believe was it, maybe that was actually a cannon who beat Tiago. Yeah, it was a cannon. Yeah. And that's how a cannon beat him by dancing around him and avoiding his power and hitting him. I think Tiago Sanchez is equally capable of doing that. The thing is though, it's all comes down to is you're going to be reckless or not. Well, he's got to control himself. He's got to be controlled. Sanchez is definitely the favorite going into this fight for a lot of people's minds. He is a former number one contender and policy, I go isn't really, to be honest, he came close, but he didn't quite make it to that top level. Sanchez is a headpad at the top level. And now that Sanchez is back with Greg Jackson's gym training solidly and a lot more motivated with a lot better game plan that he's ever come out with, he's not going to be showing us the same wild and crazy Diego Sanchez. He's been coming in with a much more focused Greg Jackson, Diego Sanchez that we've seen in the past. So with that being said, even though you guys are calling with policy, I go, I have to say, I like Diego Sanchez's odds, and I do think that policy, I was going to knock him out in the third round. He just doesn't have the size, chin, he's got it, you know, what he's really got in order for me to, in order for me to back Diego in the welterweight division, he's got to show me something. He really does. And he hasn't yet. If he's never going to do it, Tiago's the guy to do it against, but Tiago is so powerful on his feet. His wrestling game is, he's kind of wrestling game is just as good as Diego Sanchez's take down game because take down game is not a great take down game. And his submission game is much better than Diego Sanchez and Tiago's. I have to say that right this one, Tiago, I'd be very surprised with Tiago one day. Tiago didn't win this. Yeah, let's move on. So Tito Ortiz makes his return after his crushing brain injury and his fragmented skull. Yeah, there's leaking out of the side of his ear and his ultimate fighter battles with Jenna Jameson. Granted. Granted? I think Tito's going to win. I'm just kidding. He's just going to win this fight at all. I wouldn't say there's no way he's going to win. I think that, you know, Matt Hamill, Matt Hamill's very talented, but Tito knows a lot about Matt Hamill because they trained together for a while. And Matt Hamill still has, you know, that, that handicap. I mean, he's, he's, he's, it's, it's like not being able to hear is a disadvantage. What else is this advantage? Having a broken everything, which Tito has, I think I think Hamill's a younger, healthier, better, just at this stage of each of their careers, Hamill is just a better version of Tito. I agree. Hamill's going to win. I think it's going to be by decision though. I don't think he's going to finish Tito. Tito's, Tito's very hard to finish. I mean, he's, he's, he's not a guy that he's a knockout. He's no first durability. Yeah. I mean, he's not going to kill before, but I mean, that's not easy to do. It's not easy to kill. Chuck Liddell. And his submission defense is, is quite good. His wrestling game is phenomenal. Now, with that being said, although Matt Hamill did train with Tito Ortiz for a season of the Ultimate Fighter, since then he's been training at the Hammer House with Mark Coleman. He trained with them after that, too. In team punishment briefly, but recently-- No, it wasn't briefly. It was quite a while. He's, he's been trained with Coleman. I think he's very motivated for this fight. I don't think he's going to have anything where he's like, I don't want to go out there and beat Tito. I don't think he'll-- Oh, that's not even a question. No, master. No, no, no. I'm just saying that Tito knows a lot about Matt Hamill because-- But Matt Hamill knows a lot about Tito. Well, everyone knows a lot about Tito. He's been around forever. I think that, I think that Hamill is, you know, I think he's going to win this one. And I do think it's going to be a, a solid win. I think this one is going to go to TKO. Hamill has got the ground game to get on top of Tito and pound him out. Tito's older. He's slower. And I just don't think he has the heart of the fight anymore. I really hope it's by TKO because I can see this being a very boring decision. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's going to be a very boring decision. Like that third, like that third round of a forest in Tito. Oh, man. That was bad. I mean, what's next? Brendan Shob takes on Gabriel Gonzaga. Now-- This is going to be good. I'm looking forward to this. Yeah. Shwob is a young gum. He's coming off of two minutes for two fights, both of which ended in Naka victories over Chase Gormley and Brendan-- Tuck sure. Tuck sure. And he's taking on Gabriel Gonzaga. He of the famous high kick that knocked out Crowe Comp. Yeah. As well, aside from the high kick, Gonzaga is a very well-rounded, very big heavyweight. He is. Former number one contender. He's dangerous. He may be getting up there like he's been around for a while, but he is-- He's not a wolf. He's no joke. Yeah, he's definitely not. He's not past his prime. Now, he hasn't quite made it to the big, big time, but-- Don't think he ever will either. The best guys in terms of-- Well, he did. He did. He did a while ago. Yeah. But aside from that, phenomenal on the ground, his Jiu-Jitsu game is world-class, phenomenal on his feet, very, very strong. He's like a heavyweight version of Palheras. Yup. Tough, durable, good chin. He rocked Carwin. Mm-hmm. What do you guys call him for this fight? You know what? As much as dangerous as Gonzaga is, I think Shwob is on a real rise. He is on the run. And he's young. He's hungry, and he's got so many skills. So I'm actually going to call Shwob. I really like Shwob just as a dude, just as a fighter, his previous wins. I am a fan, but I think this could be the guy he's been on a great run, but I see this being the wall that he hit. Like, Gonzaga, he's lost his share of fights in the UFC, but I mean, his loss is R2, Junior dos Santos, Shane Carwin, Verdume, and Randy Coacher. Yeah. His losses have been to the best there is. This is true. And I think that he's got enough left that he will be Shwob over cover, but I just don't see him getting past this obstacle at this stage in his career. Shwob's just a new guy. He hasn't had that many fights. Well, Gonzaga is definitely the toughest fight that Shwob has ever faced. Definitely. And I definitely see your opinion. I think that Gonzaga in a lot of ways is a lot more his tool belt than Shwob does. Gonzaga has got good hands. Shwob has been knocked out before by Roy Nelson, so it can be done. And Shwob's good on the ground. Yeah, he can come up with subs a lot easier than Shwob can. Now with that being said, I think that the goal for Shwob in this fight, because he is coming from that very measured style of Greg Jackson fighting, is to take it long, I think he's very quick. And I think his goal is going to be to dance around Gonzaga and tag him and stay off the ground and see how he has to stay off the ground. He absolutely has to. I think that this one is actually going to go later than you guys think it is. I think that Shwob is going to pick this one up either by TKO in two, or it might even go all the way to decision, because I think that Shwob is going to win this one by trying to out point Gonzaga and stay out of the power and stay out of the ground. So that's my call for that one. So we go forward to the preliminary cards. We have Patrick Kote, making his return to take on Tom Waller in the middleweight. These are both very tough middleweights, very well rounded. What are your calls? That fight. That's tough. Kote. I'm going to go Kote. Waller is a great wrestler. I'm going to call him. Court McGee, the winner of the last season of Ultimate Fighter, who you can just turn to take on Ryan Jensen. This one will be a brawl, and it's going to be free on TV. She'll be really good, actually. This one. McGee's got a tough chin, so it's Jensen, and they both left the sand and bang. This one is going to be a fight. Then in the prelim cards, we have Mike Geimann versus Daniel Roberts, Sam Stout, our Canadian favorite against Paul Taylor. Look for a start to win submission on the night in this one. Chris Kumozi, another veteran of the Ultimate Fire, taking on Dong Ying Yang, and Jon Madsen, the perennial wrestling favorite of the heavyweights. Jon Madsen aside, pretty great looking card. Taking on Gilbert Heibel. So that one. That fight's probably not going to make TV, you know, probably that. You know what? It could be super entertaining if Eivol has his way, because he tried to make the Rothful Fighter entertaining. Yeah, definitely. It could be terrible. Don't remind me of that fight, man. So it's a really good looking show coming up, and we saw a decent show. So you've seen 120 from last week. So we're going to quickly run down the card here. As expected, Fabio, James is a McSweeney, lost to Fabio Wondano, Wondano crushed him with a standing TKO in round three. And then he is a cage. Probably not bad. He is. Spencer Fisher, as expected, picked up E&M's decision over Kurt Warburton. He's good for him. Very good for Fisher. Hopefully he gets back on track. Paul Sasse managed to upset the veteran Mark Hulse with his Triangle Choke. Excellent joke. That one made TV. This one showed on the live broadcast following Bisping and Akiyama, and a wonderful choke. This one won him submission of the night. So it's a good graduation. $60,000. Hevweitz brought in to gone Vincious Quiros and brought and pulled off a Runeke choke at round three, minute and 50 seconds. Then we have Siriel Durbide versus Alexander Gustasin. Gustasin won by Runeke choke in round two. This one was a very entertaining one as well. Gustasin was very measured in this. Books was a cloud Patrick. Patrick picked up the unanimous decision. It was not the most exciting fight. That fight was not good. Chick Kongo versus Travis Brown. Chick in the round was not good after a draw. Started out really, really entertaining with Brown, and then it got really, really sloppy with Kongo getting a lot of fouls and Dr. Lopter. Grab and shorts. The fight was really only noteworthy by Kongo cheating at every opportunity. Yeah. And then the third round was boring as both fighters gassed. Hathaway, crushed by pile in a unanimous decision. Very, very once. Did not see that coming. No, no, no. This was a huge upset. No one picked a pile to win this one, I think, but he showed the veteran's hand here. Really, really upset the up-and-comer. So there goes the unbeaten record. And Mike Powell, looking great, looking good, he's going to move forward a bit for this. Yeah. He's always up and down over his long career, but this is actually a big one. Hathaway is a guy that UFC hadn't ever, everybody. We considered it a joke that piled up in that fight. Really? I thought so. I really thought Hathaway was going to take it. None of us made that call, right? Nope. And then the fight, and I know we want to talk about it a little bit, Dan Hardy versus Carl Spondin. I don't really want to talk about it, but we can talk about it. It was pretty cool. So how over what the crowd was Dan Hardy when he came out, that guy looks like us. That guy looks like us. He was like a rock star. It was, I was really entertaining. We were watching, and he just here, he's just here, Steve, go, "Man, Dan Hardy's cool." As he's walking to the ring with the punk plane in the background. And he's got, he's, he entry, I love his entrance. We were really looking forward to this fight. We thought it was going to be a war. It was a war, but it was a short war. It was a very short war. It was an A-bomb short war. Yeah. The war came out with Dan Hardy throwing his wonderful counter left hook into a baited job. Carl's Condit took the hook, fired back with his own left hook, crushed Dan Hardy, knocked him out, called 40 or four minutes and 27 seconds into round one. Two. Condit looked dominating. To my complete surprise, I could not believe it. Like, I wasn't surprised that Condit came out with such a great striking game because he is a great fighter. I was surprised that Hardy got knocked out. Same here. I did not see that coming. That puts Condit on the fast track to a title shot. Oh, yeah. He's on top five in that division right now. He's a winner to a way. Excellent. I love Condit. He's a win away. Not in the way he needs two wins to get a title shot. There's just a lot going on in that division at the moment, so I'm curious how the matchmaking will happen. After his post-fight press conference comments, Dana is looking for any excuse to give him a title shot. He said that he would fight his teammate, GSP, and Dana was super happy about it. He clapped while Dana was on the podium clapping as Condit was saying that it's business and he'll he'll fight who he needs to fight to get ahead and win his title. Condit learned from the mistakes of John Fitch. Fitch said that he wouldn't fight his friend at for a title, and Condit Will, he'll get a title shot before Fitch likely. He deserves it. Well, Condit looks as sort of more dominating his last performance as Fitch has ever looked. Coming up with Big wins, he was a Formula Champion in the WEC. So, I mean, he's coming up like a fat rat in the WEC. He looks like he's got GSP in his sights now. I think he's a couple wins away because GSP has got two people on his dance card, maybe even three before Condit, but Condit's definitely in the hunt now in a really big one. He's in the conversation at the top of that division now, and I'm glad to see it. Condit's amazing. So, what do you think is next for Condit? I don't know. I'm thinking you maybe give him the loser of Shields Kamen. I don't think so. I think that that's fight is going to go to Fitch. To Fitch? Yeah. I think that Condit is going to get the winner of Tiago and... Diego Sanjos. That would be good as well, and also a very fun fight in other cases. Yeah. So, Condit moving forward, and then we go forward as well to Michael Bizping versus Yoshihiro Akiyama. Bizping came out to a huge ovation from the very, very partisan crowd. And considering how badly Britain was doing that night, he really needed to do something. They needed to win for the home team, and he came through it. He came through big. Akiyama came out and staggered him the first round with a tremendous punch. Bizping recovered his wits, and did his game time pretty much exactly what we said was going to happen if Akiyama was to lose this. Bizping stepped back and kept counter-punching him. Akiyama decided to go for the show and kept swinging, swinging, swinging, didn't try to work his judo at all. I was afraid that's what he's going to do. I said the last week, you know, if Akiyama comes out there and just strikes, he's probably going to lose the fight. Which is unfortunate. I heard a lot of talk about Bizping winged the decision because of like biased judges. No, Akiyama beat himself. Akiyama won the fight. That was legitimate. Akiyama just beat himself. He needs his. I like him. I like his judo. I like his character. I like his entrance. I like everything about him. But the guy does not fight smart. And unless he's winning fights at the night, unless he's trying to pay off his house, he's not doing a good job. Because if he's not going out there to win, he's not going to be a champion at all. Yeah. And I mean, he's all about the show. He's all about the crowd, you know, and I don't think that's he's that you ever going to take that out of them. I really don't. But the thing is, now that he's trained with Greg Jackson, you can't, you don't need to take that out of them, but you got to temper that with some good sense. And you're going to say, you want to mix the crowd cheer? You winning. Exactly. Take the guy down and ground around him. The crowd is going to cheer if you're standing on top of him punching in the face. Yeah. He needs still your justice priorities. Yeah. A trip down the card may, may wake him up. He won't be made to venting for a while again, so yeah. Yeah. Well, and Bizping, you know, looked very, very dominant in this. His boxing has looked better than ever. His ability to take a punch looked quite good. I can't always not know him for his power shots, but Bizping soaked him up with a couple of good ones. Yep. He's got a lot of composure. He's got a lot of composure. And then afterwards, Bizping decided that he wants to call revenge. He wants to get a shot against Wanda La Silva, and he said he wouldn't mind hosting another ultimate up fighter season against Wanda La. Yeah. You know what? That's a loss that he probably wants to avenge. I think that they're roughly at the same part, like, like section of the card. I don't really have a problem with it. Everyone's calling out Wanda La Silva fighters. Yeah. He's got a part in Bizping. Well, without-- It's got to get better first. Without being said. Still injured. You know, Wanda La is still injured. Bizping already lost to Wanda La Fair and Square, and although I think Bizping is self-aware enough to say, I don't think I can beat some of these top wrestlers in division, so I want to call Wanda La. The guy I want to see him with, and if they're going to do an ultimate fighter for the Walter Waits, this is who I want to see it with. Middle Waits. Middle Waits. Chills on it. Both decision fighters, both huge trash talkers. Yeah. But two different completely different styles of-- That'd be a really interesting ultimate fighter. A wrestler who likes to take a gown versus the guy who's a great escaping wrestler. Yeah. He's the guy with huge Vomit strikes. He's the guy with no Vomit strikes. Yeah. You know, this is going to be an intravenously entertaining fight, so that's what I would want to see. Yeah. And he said, Bizping does pick up the fight of the night bonus for $60,000 with him in Akiyama. It's a good fight. It was entertaining. Yeah. Definitely worth it. And yeah, we just got one quick bit of news here. For Teetas, we're saying this past weekend that they're thinking of putting WBC fighters on the UFC pay-per-view show just to get their name out there. Great idea. They're talking about champion versus champion Ben Henderson versus Frank Yeager, or just trying to get Jose Aldo onto the card so people can see him. He needs to be onto the card. Is he not-- He's way too good a fighter to not be on the card. This is not the best idea. Like, the benefits are-- That's finally numerous. Well, the WBC fighters will be running at this because this is a finally chance for them to make some legitimate money. Champion versus champion would be tremendous entertaining. Hando and Frank Yeager, I would love to see that fight. And you know what? After you do that, you can dissolve the lightweight division in the WBC. You could. However, I do have to say that champion versus champion needs to wait a little bit until Ben Henderson has a little more of a name. But get his name out there a little bit. Don't have champion versus champion immediately because a lot of people are not watching WEC. And in order to cash in on a champion versus champion, you got to-- You've got to-- You've got to-- You've got to stoke the flame a little bit. You've got to stoke the flame a little bit. You've got to stoke the flame a little bit. Yeah, precisely. But there's a potential there. And hey, you know what? Getting Jose Aldo to fight somebody on pay per view, then the next time he fights on WBC, people are going to be more interested. I hope this works out. Absolutely. They have to find an opponent for him first. Yeah, I know. Well, I think that's about all-- well, they're talking-- they've got some guys, and we'll talk about that next week. 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