[music] Hello and welcome to The Hammer, everyone. It's your source from Mix Martial Arts News, I'm your host Dave, joined as always by my good friends. Greg, I'm back, how's it going guys? And Steve. Hey, how's it going? So Greg, you returned to us for a two-week absence. Yep. Did you gain anything good? Tennis was awesome in Montreal. So, very well. Got a couple autographs. You've betrayed our mixed martial arts rates for your women's tennis. Those girls are incredible athletes. That's all I gotta say. Well, we have some other incredible athletes to talk about. For those of you who are listening to us live, you're doing so at 93.3 CFMU, or watching us on channel 282. For those of you who are not listening to us live. Good channel, channel 232 on Coacheco Cable. On Coacheco Cable. And for those of you who are not listening to us live, you can find us at thehammermma.com or on iTunes. Just search for the hammer and you will find us. So, we've got the results of UFC 118 coming in. Not the most exciting pay-per-view but very, very significant. UFC 118 won. They're coming off a string of great shows. This is the first one in a while. In months and months that just didn't hit it completely out of the park. No, it really didn't. But it didn't quite come together. The fights are right. And like I said, it wasn't the most fun card to watch. But it says a lot of significant results that we want to talk about. If the prelims hadn't put me to sleep, I would have probably been more into it. So, we begin. prelim card. Mike Pierce versus Emil Carr Alves. Pierce picks up the submission in three minutes and eleven seconds and around three. This is my straight armbar. Well done, Mr. Pierce. Greg Soto versus Nick Asapak. This one went to the decision. Soto picks up the Vietnamese decision victory. 29-28 from all three judges. So, well done, Greg Soto. Danny Miller versus John Salter. Miller has been having a rough year. He's lost three straight. And he's had a lot of personal problems. A lot of personal problems. He would have normally been fired. But this year, one of his children has died and another is on his deathbed. He's had all kinds of issues. It's a really unfortunate string of events. Dana White and the USC did their credit. They did not penalize him for losing so many fights. They continued to give him more tries. I mean, how good are you going to do in fights when you got that on your mind? Exactly. He finally came through. He finally came through. John Salter. He would know that it would dominate him throughout the first round. The second round got a knockdown. He went up to set up a choke and choked him out. This one aired in the late part of the prelims on Spike TV. So, the crowd got to see Danny Miller finally get his win. And that's a breath of life for his career. That finish actually woke me up. Yeah, that was a very good finish. Then we go forward to the prelims, which actually did show on Spike TV. And they started with the questionable choice of Andre Winter versus Nick Lenz. Now, Andre Winter is a prior winner of the Ultimate Fighter. He ran her up. He lost to my man Pearson. Yeah. And Andre Winter is mostly known for having an average striking game in a far below average wrestling or submission game. Nick Lenz is known for having a very workman-like wrestling game. A good wrestling game where he can win a fight, but he's just not exciting to win. So, this was the story of this fight was Nick Lenz getting drag-taked on after drag-taked down. These weren't even impressive slantakes down. They weren't like crushing it. It wasn't like Nick Lenz is an incredible wrestler. It's just, you know, Nick Lenz. This is the most boring fight I've seen in the year. Oh, I think it was terrible. Worse fight of the year, far as I'm concerned. This is worse than some of the Strike Force challengers made events. Like, this is really, really bad. And the ratings actually went, this is the lowest rated Spike TV special. And the ratings went down throughout the show, especially during that match. Oh, yeah. This probably hurt the buy rate. Oh, for sure. It had to hurt the buy rate. We were actually saying we were watching. It's like, I can hear people not buying this show. The collective sigh of people just watching this fight. This was the opposite of the Korean zombie fight from the WCP. Yeah. This was really boring. And I mean, if you're flip to the channels, I feel like watching some MMA, I wouldn't feel like it after that. Yeah. This goes just pure. That fight not only cost buys, but it probably cost fans. Well, it certainly should cost Andre Winter his job. This is his third loss in a row. Yeah, knock out of a Rollie Delgado. It's not going to keep you alive forever. You know, like, Winter, I'm sorry. If you're not going to develop your game to a competent working like degree, you got to go. Nick wins. You picked up the win, so I guess you get to stay for another week. But God, we got to get rid of this guy, too. I'm tired of the lay and play wrestling, like, come on. So we go forward to the butt that tried to redeem it. Joe Lowe's on makes his return in his hometown of Boston, taking on Gabe Rudiger. This was great. Yeah. This fight was awesome. Rudiger is, he likes to be a showman, and he decided to weigh in to show up with a cake for JLo. It said, "Sorry for your loss." Yeah. Very witty. I liked it. Yeah. It was clever. Although, apparently, does not really have much of a sense of humor. He came out and punished Rudiger throughout the first round, whipped him around the cage like a dog. He slammed and he grabbed him. Picked him off, slammed him, ground and pounded him. Picked him up again after ground and pounding him, just to slam him again. Yeah. It was like if Tyson fought an infant. And finished with a textbook R-Bar. Yeah. Beautiful R-Bar. Made Rudiger tap. So, Gabe, sorry for your loss. Yeah. And Joe Lowe's on picks up a submission of the night for this. This was extremely dominating victory. In front of a hometown crowd. The crowd went berserk. That was a great moment. The crowd would not have been more live after this. For this match, they were so excited. It was as if Boston Red Sox had actually won a World Series. Yeah. Which they've done twice in recent history. But that was level of cheering. Yeah, I know. That's how excited the fans were for this. Yeah. You know, like I wouldn't have expected MMA to be that impressed in Boston. They were that impressed. And they have such an investment in the fight. Yeah. They were that excited for this. Oh, yeah. Because he was a hometown boy. Yeah. That's a good moment. And it really, really contrasted with how terrible the Android Winter fight was. Yeah. So, I mean, like, really, if anything, G.L.O.'s on, if you got a submission of the night, it's because you sit on the shoulders of Giants. The shoulders of Andre Winter. He deserves an extra bonus for that. Yeah. Well, I mean, he probably would have gotten a locker in bonus for this because... He had to wake the crowd up. Yeah. Like, honestly, if he hadn't have had the fight that he had or the moment he had it, people would have been walking in. Honestly, though, I think that even if he'd won by decision or won in a not as exciting a fight, the crowd still would have gone wild. I mean, he's a hometown guy. They would have cheered him. But this ovation was unbelievable. This was the ovation that you have during Korean zombie versus Leonard Garcia. Two fighters are relatively old, but putting on an amazing attack. This was the ovation of GSP and Montreal. Yeah. This was awesome. Yeah, this should be. This was, you know, this was something special. So, that actually is going to bump G.L.O.'s career quite a bit, in my opinion, particularly with the lightweight division being a little bit faster now when we go into that later. So, we go to the main cart. We started off with Nate Diaz versus Marcus Davis. Another good fight. I enjoyed this fight. This one was a fairly solid fight. Davis was having a lot of problems with Diaz's recent advantage. He couldn't get in to hit the guy with any good shots. That is a big, big flaw for a boxer. You have to know how to get inside if you're going to be a pro boxer making a new beat to MMA. I'm really enjoying Diaz's boxing game. It's very strange with the Jabs in a strange stance, but I like it. It's unique and it's working for him. Diaz's boxing game works when he matches up well with guys. Davis, he got clipped early on with a shot and cut his eye really, really badly. For most of the fight he couldn't see. I think that had he not been clipped and cut like that, he would have done a lot better. Not only that, Diaz's boxing game is very, very predicated on his huge reach advantage. In Walter Waite, when he's fighting guys more his own size, who doesn't have that huge reach advantage on, there's guys in Walter Waite that are just going to execute. Oh, I believe he wants to go down to lightweight again. He wants to fight Maynard. He was trying to call him out at the post. It's not going to happen. Davis did not look good throughout this fight. Diaz managed to battle him and finally managed to get a technical submission. A guillotine choke at four minutes and round three. This one got a fight of the night honors. Diaz afterwards said that he doesn't mind fighting at Walter Waite, but he doesn't want to move back down because he feels like he's got unfinished business at lightweight. He wants into the title hunt. He's hedging his bets pretty creatively there. I watched the press conference, the post show press conference, and he looked so bored and so tired. He was on his blackberry, but he looked, he was napping. I think they were playing the- It's texting his brother. I think they were playing the prelims in the room. In any case, we go for it. Again, we're going to come back to Diaz in a bit. Kenny Florian versus Gray Maynard. We expected Kenny Florian to be able to pick up the win. He was normally the number two guy in that division, the lightweight division. Gray Maynard keeps his undefeated streak. Again, this is a tale of a wrestler taking on a striker. He was able to ground Florian when he needed to. He was able to do enough striking. He was much better on his feet. Much better than he should be against Florian. Well, the thing is, I think we got sort of lulled into a certain mindset by watching the Maynard Diaz fight and how Gray Maynard didn't really look that great. Because a lot of the time, I'll forget how good a fighter Gray Maynard really is. Like, he's undefeated and he's beaten Frankie Edgar. He's awesome. Like, he's a great fighter. Maynard will surprise you because he doesn't always put on what you would expect as the A-grade performance. He puts on just enough to win. He can be dull, but he's talented. But with that being said, he was able to baffle Florian in his feet because Florian couldn't use his vast array of Muay Thai for a few of the takedowns. It turned the fight into a boxing match. Gray Maynard is a very good boxer. And every time Florian tried to use his feet, he ate a takedown. He ate a double leg. So Gray Maynard chokes out the Unam's decision victory. 30-27, 30-27. One judge gave it 29-28. I can't fathom how I did not have Florian winning at any point. No way. Florian didn't win around. Florian was out match. In the press conference afterwards, Dana actually said that Florian choked. And that he just did not look that good. He was not the same. So when Florian's also got a little bit older for that division as well. He looks so good so recently though, that it's unfortunate. I don't even know if you can even say Florian's choked. He's been in the telephone before. He's fought out. And he's choked when he was in there. Dana actually said that Florian has a history of choking. Yeah, and I'm really choking is what he did that night. He did not look good. He didn't fight a smart game plan. He didn't change his style. He did not fight well that night. Which is unfortunate because he's a really good fighter. Yeah. So let me go forward to Deming Mai versus Mario Miranda. We'd actually called Miranda to win this one based on the fact that we felt his submission game was superior. And his Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu game was, I'm sorry, his striking game was superior. And his Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu game was good enough to fend off Deming Mai's submissions. I listened to the show you guys did calling that. And I was like, why are you calling Miranda? Well, on any other night I would have figured Miranda would win this one. However, Mai has been training his wrestling insanely after the loss of Anderson Silva. He's clearly looking to get back in the hunt. He was able to wrestle Mario Miranda, who was a Brazilian wrestling champion, to the ground multiple times of this match. He was able to wrestle him down, hold him down, keep him down. But almost surprisingly, he cannot put him away. Could not put him away with the submissions. So he didn't, he fought a smart fight. And that's what we said was always his issue. He likes to come up and be like, well, I've been working my hand. So I'm going to try to punch it out with Mario Miranda. He fought that fight. He didn't fight that fight. He went for takedowns. And he tried to get the fight on the ground. Mario Miranda didn't panic. He was able to get out of every one of Deming Mai's submissions attempts. And Deming Mai was a little bit sloppy and put him on. Not as nearly as technically Christmas we've seen Mai before in the past, but when you combine a good wrestling game with a fantastic ground game and a beautiful submission game, Mai can be a real threat. He was able to get Miranda down and he was able to get the unanimous decision, 37, 37, 37, 37. Not the most exciting match. It was really nice back. I found that fight very boring. Yes. Because this is very typical match. Yeah. Grappler versus Grappler. Grappler versus Grappler. And a lot of Mario Miranda being patient and waiting to break out of submission holes and not bring his energy. And both fighters being gassed in the third round, like painfully gassed. At least when you see fighters gassed, you know, they've worked hard. Yeah. But it's a very subtle form of work when they're working on the ground. It's not nearly as flashy as, you know. But you can't deny that there was some nothing going on in the room. There's a little sneezing. Yeah, I kind of missed some of that. I was really tired. It was a long day when I was watching this. Yeah. Well, with Maya, if Maya managed to capitalize his wrestling game and get a little bit crisper on submission still, so he doesn't overlook that aspect of it, I think that he is going to be a very, very tough guy for a lot of guys in the middle with the beat. As he should be. And with that being said, with Mario Miranda, there was a couple points where we both commented. He had the rear naked choke, and he gave it up to go after arm bars. He clearly had the intention in his mind, "I'm going to win this by an arm bar." And when he had the opportunity for other submissions, he'd be like, "No, no, no. I've got this one, but that's not how I want to win it." And he would go to a different one. Why? You got the win. Take it. Yeah. So, a little bit wacky decision-making there. Another fun little note about this fight. Anderson Silva was in Mario Miranda's corner. And at various points in the fight, he was screaming at Mario Miranda to get up and do something and punch him out. Anderson Silva was more excited during this fight, with Mario Miranda, over his team. He was on the fight. That his own fight went through with Chalcedon, and when he was down four rounds to zip, and about to lose his championship. He doesn't like to be in my head at all. I don't know what's going on there, but there's some sort of like... There's bad blood. Oh yeah, there's some bad blood. And the thing is with Anderson, I mean, there wasn't really bad blood, with Anderson towards Chalcedon. Anderson saw him as a joke. Like, he saw all his talking as really a joke. I don't even think it bothered Anderson Silva. And Anderson Silva pulled out the win, right? But, whatever Danny and Maya has done, he is under Anderson's skin. Yeah, they don't like each other. So, severely. Anderson Silva hates this guy more than Shogun, more than GSP, more than Chalcedon. He wants this guy, and he's going to corner anyone who's going out from us. So, I mean, like, if Maya has to get back in the hunt, that'd be an interesting fight, because I think there's this time Anderson Silva's not coming out. I think Anderson Silva will finish him in half-around. Yeah, so it was going to come out the pond. We'll have a second. So, with that being said, Randy Kautura versus James Tony, no surprises here. Exactly what you figured. Kautura goes for an immediate single leg takedown. Tony had no ground game whatsoever. He fell over like a turtle and could not get bothered. Yeah. Kautura moved immediately to Mount. Tony did not know how to shake him out of Mount. Kautura transitioned into an armed triangle choke, one flight by a submission, a technical submission at three minutes and 19 seconds into the first round. So, wrestler versus strikeler, but this is a wrestler who knows how to finish, and he finished it. It seems like, you know, all the guys that previously had been like, "Oh, yeah, we were rolling with Tony and he was really doing well." All of them came out afterwards and were like, "Yeah, we didn't actually roll with him." Tony didn't prepare for that fight. That was just a payday. Oh, yeah. Big payday. And it doesn't prove anything about boxers versus wrestlers or anything. Like, it just proves that Randy Kautura is awesome and James Tony isn't a good MMA fighter. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he started to play. He will never be. He's starting too late. This is his last UFC fighter. Yeah. So, with that being said, I'm just going to note about this. Randy Kautura won by armed triangle choke. Why that is interesting is this. Generally speaking, moves go in and out of fashion. And there's trends and styles. Like, in a couple of years ago, darts chokes were the move everyone was learning how to put on everyone was learning. Well, the thing with this choke is this is the one that he learned fairly recently and he taught Brock Lesnar. Yeah. So, I mean, it's something that's in his mind right now. Tyrone Woody, the very talented wrestler who no one would ever seen from challengers, was winning fights with it. Kautura is the kind of guy who would watch that. He practiced it with Brock. Brock used in a high profile fight. Randy Kautura used it in a prideful profile fight. Right now, if you are a wrestler in MMA, if you are not going to your Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu coach and saying, "Teach me this choke." Because I can get in perfect position from a double leg and be able to put this on. Every single one of them is going to be looking to do this move. And every single other fighter in MMA needs to be learning how to defend this. Well, even just that move, that's not what's too small of a view. It's the idea that these guys aren't learnings of Jiu-Jitsu's submissions. These wrestlers, then. I think we might be oversimplifying this just a little. But it's the general overall Jiu-Jitsu game. No, it's not just the general overall, it's the summation game. As I said, when Dar's Chokes came in style, it wasn't, well, I also learned Gator Wolf. It was very specific to Dar's Chokes. No, you know, if everyone starts learning one choke, then everybody learns how to counter that. You need a wide fur. And I have no doubt that, Coach, if that wasn't going to work, you could have put something else on. Well, but that's the meta game, though. Like moves go in and out of style. Like no one's really trying Dar's Chokes anymore because everyone was out of defend in that. Yeah. Guillotine's were in for a bit. I can guarantee you that on tribal shows will be the next in move for about a year until everyone learns how to counter that. Well, we saw Guillotine in this pay-per-view. Ben Henderson won a title with a Guillotine. Like Guillotine's aren't out of style. They're not out of style, but I mean more and more people are learning how to get out of Guillotine's and we didn't actually see Guillotine in this pay-per-view. Actually, yeah, Guillotine's won. But other than a lot of arm bars. But it was mostly arm bars and ninja chokes and, you know, arm triangle chokes. So we go forward to Frank Yeager versus BJ Penn. Again, we had figured BJ Penn would be coming in more taking this play seriously. My call last week was I love Frank Yeager. He's one of my favorite fighters. I really wanted him to win. My heart was with him, but I expected BJ to tear him apart this time. Nope. Frank Yeager fought another amazing fight against BJ Penn. Yeah, that was incredible. He fought a better fight this time than the first time. Yeah. And we've always said before, it's not where you can beat BJ Penn on one any given night. It's where you can beat him twice, back to back. Frank Yeager beat him twice, back to back. He managed to take BJ Penn down in the first round. He managed to take him down in multiple rounds. He managed to out-strike him. He managed to dodge every single one of his counter-punchies. It was art. He was just such a well-rounded MMA fighter last night. Yeah. That's what BJ should be, or what BJ usually is. And he just beat him as own game. So, Edgar picks up the unanimous decision victory. 50-45 from all three judges. There is no controversy. There's nothing to be said here. Frank Yeager is the champ. And now Dana White insists that he can market Edgar versus Maynard. Do you guys think that's true? I think he can. I think he can market it because Maynard is the only loss that Edgar has ever had. And their styles clash, interestingly. Frank Yeager is very fast, but Maynard's got a tough chain, and he's a more powerful wrestler. I want to see the fight, but if it's not underneath the GSP title fight, then it can be trouble. Well, I mean, you're not having Penn in the title. You're going to have less buys without Penn. When's the last time Penn wasn't involved in the title? Dana White is no one's fool. He's not going to throw this one out there along the car. He's going to give you the great combing event, or he's going to put it under a great main event. Yeah, he would never throw a mirror and crock up on paper. But he's kind of got no choice. That's what's saying. Sometimes you don't have a choice. Sometimes you don't have a choice, but like he knows with this fight to make it really successful, he's got to put it with something. Absolutely. And he'll try to put it with something. Now, it's not to say that people won't get injured or pull out or this or that. Right. But he's definitely going to, definitely the attention will be, let's put this with something. Absolutely. Now, with that being said, what I love about the result of this is this is a complete changing the guard for the lightweight division. When BJ Penn lost the title, I said, "Hey, if he wants to move to Walter White, now's the time." Even immediately after the fight, the question was, "BJ, is it time for you to go up to Walter White?" I think the plan is to move BJ out of the division that puts Edgar as a champion, gray-mainred as a number one contender. Flooring isn't really in the hunt right now because he's lost a manor. But in his climb to the top, Edgar did not face Diaz, did not face... Gomi. Sodoropoulos. Gomi. Oh, there's lots of new titles I've been talking about. Stevenson. He goes on. He goes on. He goes on. You know, Guida. There's at least six or seven guys that you can market a pay review on that have not faced Frank Diego. Diego is probably going to drop back to you too. Diego Sanchez, it makes perfect sense for now that BJ Penn is on the way. Yeah. If you're Gate Diaz or Diego Sanchez, you've got to be saying this time for me to go back to lightweight. Absolutely. Particular BJ is going to come up into Walter White. There has been no recent talk about that. The current plan seems to be BJ staying at lightweight until we hear something different. They're already talking Guida. My thing with that is if there's any one guy that you don't want as a gatekeeper in your division, it's BJ Penn because no one's getting past the gate. Yeah. Oh, I agree. Edgar found the formula. Not many other people are going to be able to. Maybe Maynard can, but Maynard's already past the gate. But from what I've heard so far, I personally don't think that BJ's leaving that division quite yet, but I don't think so either. I think it's time. I think it's time. I don't think it's time to be like, "Hey, come on. Let's go." Well, I mean, there's no... I don't really agree with pressuring fighters to move divisions unless it's for their health. Like, rumble needs to not be in Walter White and that's a health issue. But BJ Penn, I mean, why pressure the guy? You can do whatever he wants. He can comfortably get into that weight class, and it's not a health risk, and he hasn't caused any problems, so there's no reason to pressure him out of a weight class. Well, I'm thinking that the time might be right to do Edgar and Maynard on the same card as GSP cost check December 11th, just because that's about four months from now. Yeah, it's a year-end show, and it's going to be a big one. That's going to be a Montreal show. It's going to be Montreal. They just announced it. That is pretty great, especially since cost check was trashing the Montreal Canadiens. Oh, yeah. Well, cost check already. I love cost check. He's already started it. I can't wait until they also have a fighter. That's two weeks from now. Yeah. And also, they've got a main event for UFC 122 from Germany. It's on tape delay. It's going to be--this is November 13th. Vito or Balfour versus Uxnokami. Yeah. That's a main event. That's a tough one. Yeah, it is. On free TV. Okay. It's a free TV one. Vito Balfour, it's an old-school star. Uxnokami is a fun guy to watch. I think Uxnokami will win this one. And I think they're looking at this. Really? Uxnokami is going to be Balfour? Balfour has always struggled with grapplers. Couture picking them apart multiple times. That is couture, though. Couture is huge. But Balfour is also a monster with grappling. I call Balfour. I'll protect it later. Yeah, we'll protect it later. Full other discussion. Yeah. And Shogun is definitely out till next year. Rashad Evans is not taking the title shot. He's going to chill till next year. So that's two of your big stars out for almost a year. Two of your big stars, but Light Heavyweight is a fast division. He's still got Rampage. He's still got Machita. He's still got Ortiz. He's still got Forrest. He's still got Bones. There's a lot of guys. He's still got Tiago Alda's. I'm so tired of Silva. There's a lot of guys floating around that division that don't have to be his partner. But when you have paper views, like Mirror versus Crocock, wouldn't it be good to have a guy like Rashad Evans around? It'd be wonderful if a guy like Rashad Evans around. It's just like having a guy like Grandpidge around gives you a lot of that, too. Yeah. Yeah. I think it makes sense that Rashad's not waiting around. And I don't think it's that hurts the company that much. If I was Rashad, I would hold out as well. Oh, yeah. But he'd get injured. Yeah, definitely. Some of these shows coming up, they really could use these guys around, but it's fighting what you do. He's still got Rampage. He's still got Karwin. What's he doing? There's these Dodge and Steroid accusations. Yeah, exactly. They got plenty of guys on the roster that it's not like the company's going to collage. Of course not. And Shogun's not there. It's not like Shogun. I love Shogun. I'm one of those biggest fans of the world. He's not that much of a draw. And I also maintain, what is wrong with Mirror Crocock? Oh. I don't know. I want to see this. I want to see the fight. And I would-- And a little gnog against Bader. I want to see that too. I'm not saying it's a card I don't want to see. I'm saying it's a card I don't see a lot of people paying $50, $60 to see. Do you think Mirror could sell it in the countdown? If anybody can, he can. Well, I love it for the legendary feel. And like I said, I've previously been a huge fan of Crocock, and I previously been an anti-fan of Mears. I'd love to see Crocock smash him, although whether that happens is questionable. With that being said, there's no way you could look at this pay-per-view and think 500,000 buys. There's no title on it. It's not on the table. There's no title on it. There's no container match on it. It's true. They're going to be hyping up Brock Lesnar versus Kay Velasquez. They're doing one of those three-part countdown specials like they did for Rampage and Rashad, which is I think you need to do to get Velasquez over as a big star. People will have to get to know this guy because a Lesnar will sell it on his own, but if Velasquez wins, she's not that popular. All you have to do is make it so that people believe that Velasquez is the guy that can take down Brock Lesnar the heel, right? Exactly. You really do have to position Brock as the bad guy. Yeah. Well, he does it so well. Let's see, what other news we have here? Lots of little stuff. Ariane, the Ring Girl is going to be doing Playboy in November. Wow, I'm surprised. I know, really. It does only matter time. No comment. No interest there? Nobody buys Playboy anymore. No. The magazine is dead. I mean, if I want to see Ariane naked, I can pretty much tune into any UFC event and use my imagination. All right. And... Your job is to walk around the bikini. It's not that part of a stretch to put you in Playboy anyway. And after UFC Fan Expo in Boston last weekend, everybody went to that, actually. Yeah. Cool. And Dana White said that he's thinking of doing a WBC Ultimate Fighter reality show to try and get the ratings up, because WBC ratings have been really bad. It bothers me so much that they're so bad because the product is so great. The product is great. The recognition is not there. Doing an Ultimate Fighter style show, or even a season of the Ultimate Fighter. On first of all, devoted to WBC, that could be huge. It was huge for the UFC. It was huge for the UFC. There's no reason to expect that it wouldn't be huge for WBC. And also, generally speaking in boxing, when boxing started out, though heavier were white classes would be by far the more popular. Yeah. As boxing developed, the lighter were white classes became far more popular because it was so much more active. Yeah. I think that the same thing will happen in the UFC, where the activity rate and the excitement of some of the lighter weight classes is going to make a big, big difference. People like to see the big beast fight, but sometimes those fights can be very boring. Yeah. The lightweight fights, as a crowd, begin to appreciate the technique involved more and is able to keep up with it. I think that the market is going to burst for WBC at some point. Yeah, it's only a matter of time. I mean, UFC is a little bit older and has had a lot more marketing port into it. So, I mean, you've got to figure WEC, it's going to take them time. But, I mean, with that product, it's only a matter of time. The biggest boxers in the world right now aren't the Klitschko brothers. Yeah. They're the heavyweight champions. They may weather in his pack-out. Yeah. They're both fighting below 145 pounds. Guess who's about to become a big boxing star? Who? Kimbo Slice just hooked up with the guy who did Elite XC. Yeah. And he's going to start promoting him in boxing. Oh. I mean, it's kind of good for Kimbo because it gets away from that arthritis problem. There's no leg kicks in boxing. No leg kicks in his ground game has always been a little suspect. So, if you can just go in there and punch, the thing is, though, when your business partners, the guy who ran Elite XC into the ground. Yeah. That's dangerous. We're all from you. Yeah. So. Yeah. Well, that really was helpful to Kimbo. No. Kimbo, Kimbo, Kimbo, Kimbo. I don't know anything wrong. That's a story for another day. And, yep. And the last bit of news we have here is our old boy War Machine is now in jail for a year. That's it. That's all he got for beating up like women in bars and all sorts of stuff like that. But, oh, man. War Machine is an idiot. That guy needs to go and having a year off War Machine makes it a happier year for him. I'm just glad that we don't have to report on any more of his crimes for at least a year. Well, who knows if he's in prison? Yeah. He's going to kill somebody in jail, probably. You know. Good Lord. So, yeah, that's pretty much it. Next week, I think we're just going to, we're going to talk about the ultimate fighter. We're going to talk about the ultimate fighter. People have been asking us about it. It's starting up again next week. So, we're going to go in for a little bit of a review of who's gone on from where? From the ultimate fighter and what we think for the new season. So, tune in next week and we'll have a good show. And you can catch our podcast on TheHammerMMA.com. Have a good week, guys. [BLANK_AUDIO]
